still a backer for the arts but it's all subjective. so has become too expensive and too cool but it's struggling office of lost the studios all rehearsal rooms to soaring rents predatory developers here's a clip from a documentary about two artists who left but eventually return. the other to pitch otto is a multimedia artist from the united states her husband alexander is best known as the basis for the band in a night out this film shows how they came to a point where they felt they couldn't breathe and berlin anymore. then we blew out how walls by giving up our house. we left berlin back then because in twenty ten beilin had arrived at a point in its development that was absolutely not conducive to being an independent artist. so they packed everything up and tried to make their dream a reality some place else. like great is showing what we are like nomads they first headed to mexico then to new york then finally to prague they found more on their journey than just the individual places . but nowhere was like berlin. in twenty eighteen they returned to their beloved city intending to open a center for artists and musicians but where. everyone says that buying something in berlin not. doing something is impossible ok but impossible is a word i will not accept. the documentary tom fed no or a dream catchers is about a couple who went away and came back having concluded that there is no place better than berlin. my guest is a legend of the underground music scene here in berlin but originally from manchester in england mark reader is a musician a record producer a filmmaker who amongst many other things organized the first of a punk rock concert behind a bowling ball in east berlin i think got away with it he's now for forty years out there yeah how here's the big question mark how's it changed in those forty years it's become more colorful perhaps i think you know but in the eighty's was very grey very bullet riddled and very desperate and berlin now we some more accessible place i think he said more expensive place of course but it's accessible and the fall of the wall did that also things a great deal as well not immediately but obviously you know with the lights off the sea is lights of course it's a very different place burley which i quite live because it's you know i've moved into a new city with our son to do the move. and what about alternative culture that your particular involving. is it still the best place to be like it was well i think it is you know i mean i don't think anything's really changed on that front really you know he's still in a place that truck. from all over the world which you know in the past were very few once the wall came down people realized the potential of the city for you know it was very very cheap back then. but it inventive compare it say to paris. america you know like new york or san francisco berlin still really a cheap place to live is still an affordable place to live even though the reds have got up skyline. even though the berlin has complained about his or all when you're used to living in a place that cost like eighty knocks which is i forty or less. and then your rent goes up saw like four hundred then you're going to complain exactly now gentrification is a dirty word for a struggling artist so let's see how the burnin boom in recent years has affected the. famous architect designing flashy new buildings and luxury lofts and condos sprouting up everywhere burton's fabled venue's a fast disappearing. culture is losing ground to capital its most prominent victim timeless piece of cultural center of the ninety's and early two thousand right in the heart of berlin. after a long battle tacklers finally closed in twenty twelve. workshops are being edged out all over ballin most recently here in paris are. over three hundred fifty studios disappear each year due to rising rents. over holland and the district of vetting is one of the last big studio spaces in the center of the land they have also been sold to an investor so far artists have been paying a renter three to seven euros per square meter they couldn't afford. ninety percent of them living on the breadline as it is doing odd jobs living. almost thirty years ago creative spirits were the first to take advantage of the historic changes in land occupying on the used spaces and opening crops it was then the berlin gained its reputation as a club as paradise party goes from all over the world still come here in droves and back kind remains legendary but many of balance one hundred forty clubs have had to close down in the great some off continues. so that's what's happening today before we talk about it more let's have a quick look at some of my readers favorite hole in the old. but. the easy. we're standing here right square. behind me is the legendary thirty six club which was the. place where i first played the lead in with the bat and i had no idea what was going to do and a friend of mine called me just to see if i wanted to go out for a drink and i said. you saying anyway strange you. know what brilliant next wednesday would be called by a journalist become to england it would be kate scholl to do the on the cards and which actually means the. i'm standing in front of the reminder howls of the. vocals which in this is a nice thing to talk to wholesome punk bands for much germany played the first gig by a well. in group here in east berlin in one thousand eight hundred one this is the only place in on a little tour as hasn't changed i told. this is that says. all this is the place to which used to be just. tore it down a couple of years in this area anything goes you know there was there were no rules no regulations there's no policing in the early ninety's it was a very unique global really really great place to go out to and there's nothing going to be like ever again. record producer musician is marred gaston's your story now our concern about straying. quite right my question is could you do it today and get me a gig next wednesday like from of the not know why. things have become a bit a little bit more regimented i think there are possibilities not buildings completely strangled itself you know it's not there are places you can go and buildings still go a lot of opportunities you know there's a lot of places where you could do things i find the fact that you know people come and take over certain properties and turn into flotsam things they forget the reason why people come to berlin in the first place they might just come on a whim because they've heard about it they might want to go out to one of the club scene here and they experience a city but she's a very culturally very vibrant and very relaxing in comparison to say some a lot longer do you think it's going to last i mean buildings being cool for ages. attracts the always the same kind of people you know i saw i find a mess so many people in the meantime who've moved to berlin and and it's not just you don't spend the entire life a lot of you know only you can pay for a few years maybe in just experience if the fine tunes you into so in some way and . you can gain certain experiences from being here and the way berlin kind of light presents itself on the club scene and music scene i'm not saying for that matter it creates a certain sort of light in the level of you know attainment you have to achieve right and then and then you can take that and go elsewhere ok now many people involved and now you through the film believe movie n.s.a. and movie fold about your large fear of a short look. in one nine hundred seventy eight mark reader worked in a manchester record store selling punk music. but it was german bands like cuff back and tangerine dream that really appealed to him. so he headed off to west berlin the city with the wall the city that never sleeps. was he lived in a squat where he paid no rent and witnessed the first street riots sparked by housing issues back then the problem in berlin wasn't luxury renovations but no renovations at all but the result was the same as now the demand for affordable apartments was greater than the supply. was the movie shows historical documentary material supplemented by movie shot scenes made to look like the early one nine hundred eighty s. . mark reader watched the rise of famous german bands he later played in his own promising band but major success eluded them. you. see. the film ends with the fall of the berlin wall and the growing techno see new music a new opportunity new bands new parties new drugs a new era. and the new company that you create at the time you've recently revived it because you've been to china about a chinese band moved to china just two months or a china i went to a festival saw this beyond the call stolen and i thought living the guilt they made the difference and this kind of psychedelic techno rock music and decided ok i've worked with these guys and do a record for the most you know you saw i could psych psychedelic techno wrote we're look out for the thanks very much you very for this today and that's all for this time on don't forget website d.w. dot com slash culture for more i'll leave you with pictures from the bowling cultural scene back in the day because even now but we're still a bit crazy and thankfully authors do still flock here. you. see. propaganda on rails. russia's army is celebrating its victories in syria with an exhibition training. bitter pill to swallow for relatives of those who died in combat many received little assistance and feel abandoned to tell you reporter u.p.v.c. tell needs families of fallen soldiers and here's their story. in thirty minutes on w. o. v only order is history the world is reorganizing itself and the media's role is keep shifting powers the topic in focus at the global media forum twenty nineteen and the laboratory for the digital age. who are we following whom do we trust to debate and shape the future at the doj of 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