The move is by a pastor out of georgia but who was talking about that weve gotten so complacent in our churches that we, this is how he explains it. We go to the same place and time even though the last few times weve been going, the fish are not there but were going to do the same thing. Maybe we have to go to deeper waters to find the fish because the fish are moving. Its important for me not just as a christian but as a leader to figure out how to i findthe fish. And not expect for the fish to always be atthe same place or to always come to me. And it struck me as such a great read, very tiny book. So powerful and impactful. We have to figure out how to go into the deeper water and not be afraid to go out further. We want to stay on the shore, sometimes you got to go into deep water so thats why that one. Then james helper is my friend. Is probably one of the most intelligent people ive ever met. Hes a great historian and hes a great experience so i wanted to get some understanding of who he is even deeper as a person. What his childhood was like. Why he became a man he is and thats why these three bookss most of this discussion around history, and that when most of your interest and you find your inspiration from or do you have other genres you are interested in . I am big on poetry, im big on pros so lets say i prepared to do of speech. The first thing i do is start to read a poem or something that strikes me or music. But mostly i love poetry. Thats inspirational to me. These books are inspirational in a different way. They inspire me to be the kind of people in these books. To measure myself against them. So if im going in the right direction, sometimes you look at other people and say id like to have that trait. Id like to be like this person and thats why read this. Im a big time historian and i love history. This just happens to be my historical reading of books. 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[inaudible conversation] now live from the mississippi book festival, and author panel on historical events that shaped the south. [inaudible conversation] id like to get this going , if you would please put your cell phones on silent and we do welcome picture taking and if you would like to share them on social media, if you would send to hashtag Literary Lawn Party or literary hashtag ms book festival. We want to welcome you to this session on southern history and we also want to thank our sponsor for this session, the client law firm. Id like to introduce you to Robert Luckett, he will be our moderator. Hes a member of the directors for the mississippi book festival as well as being the director for the Margaret Walker center at jasmine State University where hes also a professor. Mister Robert Luckett is also an author. Thank you and welcome. Glad to see everyone, im going to go down and introduce our panelists today. First we have two out my immediate left, adrienne berard. Adrian is the author of water tossing boulders, how a family of immigrants led the first fight to desegregate schools. She currently serves as managing editor of the local daily paper in williamsburg, shes a graduate of columbia universitys graduate school of journalism and served as writer in residence at dontuniversity. Her book was ordered be working progress award for narrative social justice journalism, berard berg and her career in northampton massachusetts. Over the last decades shes worked for national press, digital and Television News outlets such as abc, 20 20 and fox news. Her investigation into the life of an american Bounty Hunter is currently in production as a feature film. Although she was raised in the northeast he does come from a long line of mississippi women so we will claim you. At least five generations long, her mother was born in jackson and she and jesse lived on a farm in virginia. Am i close enough . With an energetic corgi named clover so welcome adrian. Yes, please. [applause] to her left his patricia boyar, director of the Womens Resource Center where he focuses on projects and programming that advanced feminism. She also teaches courses for the department of history including comparative history of oppression and resistance and gender violence and justice. She earned her phd in history from the university of southern mississippi, her ba from Mississippi Valley and her ba in theater from arizona state. The book right to revolt, a crusade for justice in mississippi central was a recipient of the eudora welty prize and shes in a number of organizations that fight for the equality of all people including me social justice movement, women living our values every day, now love. Patricia boyat. [applause] next we have otis sanford, oldest codes the chair in mallet managerial journalism at the university of memphis and is the author of the critically acclaimed new book to king willy, jerez changed memphis politics. Sanford also serves as political commentator for the wr eg channel 3, cbs affiliate station in memphis and he is a panelist for informed services, Weekly Public Affairs program on channel 3 plus he wipes right viewpoint columns before joining the university of memphis, in 2011 hanford was editor for opinion and editorials at the commercial appeal and formally serves as the papers managing editor. The first africanamerican to hold both positions. A Panola County mississippi native, sanford is a 1975 graduate of the university of mississippi with a ba in journalism, began his career at right here in jackson, the first africanamerican male reporter at the paper and has worked at the Pittsburgh Press and the detroit free press. Sanford is a lecturer on newsroom management journalist and First Amendment issues, past president of the Associated PressMedia Editors and past board chair of the midamerica press institute. In 2014 he was inducted into the tennessee journalism hall of fame. Last but not least, bricks stockley is a native of mississippi where his father owned a cotton plantation. The family moved to marion arkansas. He graduated from southwestern at memphis, now road scholar in 1965. He served as a peace corps volunteer for two years during Rural Development and in 1967 he was drafted and spent two years in the military. In 1972 he graduated from university of Arkansas Law School and was employed as a Legal Services attorney for 32 years representing indigence in civil cases. Subsequently he was a staff attorney in the aclu of arkansas. He is the author of the five indian page lawyer novel series published between 1991 to 1997 i simon and schuster. His nonfiction books include ruled by race, black relations in arkansas from slavery to the present, Race Relations in the natural state, civil rights crusader from arkansas, blood in their eyes the race massacres of 1919 and black boys boarding, 1959 fire at the Arkansas Negro Boys Industrial School. He is the recipient of a certificate of commendation from the state and local history for blood in their eyes. Among other Community Awards he was named 2013 civil libertarian of the year. In 2012 he received a Lifetime Achievement award from the Arkansas Historical association for his pioneering investigation of arkansasracial history. [applause] so i thought we would jump right into this and not tiptoe around it. Some pretty sensitive topics. I know were here to talk about all your books but it seems to me as a civilrights historian which is my real gate, that perhaps more than any other panel at this festival this weekend we have an obligation as southern historians to make some comments on what weve seen happen in the last couple weeks in this state and this state and others in places like charlottesville. As well as whats going on in the white house and the current debate over the Mississippi State flag. Something of particular importance if you consider the room we are sitting in. And id like for us to begin there. And i think patricia, maybe we can start with you and perhaps get your thoughts, consider how your own work in mississippi informs your thoughts on the subject . Thanks for having me, im honored to be with these wonderful authors. And i thank my publisher two, everybody there. I thought a lot about this as obviously its incredibly disturbing to see a lot of this images coming out of charlottesville. And i think sometimes we want to think American History in this linear progressive line that its a great dream of enlightenment, a lot of equality and justice for all but thats not the reality. Its like a maze and we will be happy as the dichotomy of these great ideals but we also have in our constitution the 3 5 clause. We have great movements like the Abolition Movement and civil war but then we have redemption and joe crowe. The historical oppression, white supremacist oppression. We had the southern strategy and what Michelle Alexander called the new jim crow with the war even though white and blacks, they are of the same race that they are included in africanamericans and so you have this new jim crow going on. We have Great Strides in the 21st century. We had the first africanamerican president. A lot of Great Strides that happened under that time period and now were in a backlash. So in my research, i think we are always hoping. But in my research i noticed that there were always these tips forward and there were these steps back. That gives me hope that theres always resistance, theres always resistance and the first moment that africanamericans were fourth year as slaves therewas resistance so when you see charlottesville , you also see this, these people standing up against it. I wasnt here today and in new orleans there having a protest march there to support the antiracist protesters so i would be there but i think its important to and in terms of my research, i started the book. I look at a long history of doom all county but i start on january 10, 1966 when eight klansmen sent by imperial wizard sam bowers came from jones county, and their mission was to murder vernon davis was it was a civilrights accident activist in a Voting Rights case and the orders were to burn the house and shoot up the people in it. He was, his aunt was living in the store and his previously children were living at home. He grabbed his gun and shot back and he called his wife to get the children out. They did manage to get everybody out and betty who was 12 sustained burns on her for head and hands and such intense burns and such horrible smoke inhalation that he perished several hours later. Six days after that, fdr was already in mississippi. They sent an army of agents into Forest County and there was a very powerful Civil Rights Movement in hattiesburg and they rose up and demanded justice. There are also justice and implementation of civil rights laws and other all kinds of demands. Explained later, a funeral procession a load of three white men tried to drive into and plowed into that funeral procession. They missed their targets, they sprayed one person and here we areyears later and we are watching images of neonazis , slogans of blood and oil you see them beating up the andra harris, and we see someone get in a car and plow his car into anti racist nonviolent protesters and kill heather. So as much as we want to believe were going forward, we made Great Strides and to say that, im not saying but that would be insulting all the heroes i write about but we have to stand up i think. I think we have to speak out and i think that we have to continue that resistance because we are in some really troubling times. Would you like to jump in there . Obviously im a native of mississippi. I grew up in the 50s and 60s in Panola County mississippi. My older brother joined forces with white young men from the north, they registered people to vote. I was about 10 or 11 years old and i thought he would never come back home. When he went out to do this. And the integrated the lunch counter in my hometown in the drugstore. Or at least tried to integrated. Until they took out all the seats and said nobodys going to sit down in there because they didnt want africanamericans sitting there. What i see one on right now with charlottesville, and with the issues over the statues and the flags is a kind of resistance and backlash that is to be very honest, its so troubling that its just mindboggling. But i do believe that decency wins in the end. I believe that the statues we have one in memphis, we have to in memphis, nathan statue right in the heart of east of downtown memphis in a public park. Jefferson davis statues in the park, there use to be known by named after him but now has been changed. Those statues as the others are going to leave public places. I have advocated this. As you said i write a column inthe newspaper every week. And i am steadfast in my call to get these statues out of public venues. I dont want my taxpayer money going to, for the upkeep of these statues. They need to be in a museum. You can put Nathan Bedford forrest statue in shiloh, thats fine. You wanted to be buried in elmwood cemetery. He was buried there for more than 20 something years until they got him up and put him in this public park. So i think again, decency is going to win in the end. And im going to keep shouting for it. And i just hope that the majority of voices keep shouting for it. And ill talk more about my book a little later. Id like to say one thing because i edit a daily paper in virginia so this hits home in a lot of ways but my readership having stated in a lot of different worlds. Unfortunately we are experiencing technical difficulties in our live coverage of the mississippi book festival. They with us and will we will return to our Live Programming as soon as possible. And so the idea that these are just statues and these are just crazy protesters, go get a job. People are fighting against is rhetoric that can become law and we will have to fight that were generations to come. Im going to speak a little different and wanted to start reading from the introduction, just a couple paragraphs from my book. Im sure you all are aware that daisy bates works. This months book really has to do with a fire at the Arkansas Negro Boys Industrial School i wanted to put the Historical Context and im going to start with, its kind of in the middle of my introduction which is a couple of paragraphs. Elsie and his wife daisy bates who know only too well White Supremacy had been carried out by slavery. Bad signs, murder, rape, terrorism, lynching, massacres, mass incarceration. Disenfranchisement, racial cleansing. Arson, racial confidence, predatory lending, loan discrimination, redlining, blockbusting, segregation, intimidation, humiliation, discrimination and now, free speech. Termination from employment, a truly massive debt, a financial resource for services lawfully intended for black citizens. Orenstein rather than effective treatment. Of a black persons diagnosis to berkey los. Eternal is an and eight civil and criminal Justice System that routinely denies African Americans due process and equal protection of the law. As an integral part of impediments to africanamerican rights, the official and unofficial writing of the souths racial past sometimes resembled propaganda rather than history in order to justify the action of white southerners. Notwithstanding the carnage, and devastation caused by the civil war, accounts of the souths struggle and its defeat over time have often been transformed into an occasion for no style job, reenactment and legends rather than attempts to come to terms with its actual history. Im going to stop right there and describe a couple comments. One of the things that has been, i think important in our history and im talking about arkansas and mississippi as we were saying earlier, about arkansas. Its had a saying which sounds ridiculous. But we used to say. Thank god for mississippi. Race relations that was going to be the name of my book. At one time. Thank god for mississippi Race Relations in arkansas. We know about poor arkansas and mississippi and the south. And we end up talking, i have been inspired by the