Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 20150411 : comparem

Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 20150411

Of policing Committee Relations in this country. We are asking our viewers if you trust your local police force and if your feelings have changed in light of the recent walter scott case and other incidents. We are splitting our lines up regionally this morning. If you are in the central or eastern United States, it is 202 7488000. If you are in the mountain or pacific region, it is 202 7488001. You can also catch up with us on social media on facebook twitter, or email us at journal cspan. Org. Very good saturday to you. Here is the front page out of South Carolina this should change everything. Go there is a picture there of the event through which one of the onlookers is looking at the spot where walter scott died. The front page about this in the f New York Times North Charleston repairs for morning and protest in Walter Scott Shooting. That is the lead for the story in the New York Times today. The subject we are talking about this morning, we want to get your thoughts on Police Relations in your community. Tell us what using about your local police force. Our from eyes are open. As you call in, we want to show you a bit on this topic, the same topic we discussed yesterday. We were join by former new orleans mayor. He talks about the implications of the North Charleston shooting of walter scott. Here is a bit of what he had to say. [video clip] you will see the Justice Department look at the specifics of mr. Scotts case, but rightfully so, they will have to examine the actions of the Police Department at large. Right now in the United States, there are greater than 10 departments, it may be close to 20, that are either under federal consent to being looked at for practicing civil Rights Violations by the department of justice. This speaks to the idea that the broader problem of Police Community relations excessive use of force, Police Misconduct conduct, and Police Brutality we may just be seeing the tip of the iceberg and we may have, and i think we do, a broad systemic challenge in this nation. Its not take away the idea or the notion that many most Police Officers are hardworking, honest competent will do the right thing. As with any, if you will industry with any important institution, a few bad apples cannot only spoil the whole bunch, but the coverup in North Charleston speaks to not just incidents but to a broader question of culture. This is important an important conversation for us to have in america. Host an important conversation we are this morning on washington journal. We want to hear from you of your do you trust your local police force . Have your views change in light of the walter scott case and other recent highprofile cases . Here is a letter to the editor from Columbus Police chief Columbus Police want to earn Communities Trust and respect is how the letter is titled. That is kim jacobs, letter to the editor. A very different take coming from frank c serpico, the man of whom an oscarnominated movie was based on. He wrote a piece for a political magazine, when cops cry wolf. He writes, though he apparently dropped his taser next to scott body, that would make the case that scott took the taser. Unless we create an atmosphere where the cooking cop fears the honest cop, the system will never change. He writes, now in an era of videotaping, who will believe the police even when they are telling the truth . We want to hear your views this morning. Our phone lines are open to talk about it. Sheridan is calling first from columbus ohio, where the police chief wrote that letter today to the columbus dispatch. Good morning. Caller basically, in columbus, i think police are ok. You know, i was in the navy in the 40s in norfolk, virginia. You know what it was like that. A lot of people south of the masondixon line still say the civil war is still at halftime. I dont know if you are aware of that. There is still a lot of too much racism in this country. By the way, are you aware of the Police Officers they kicked and tumbled that guy that stole a horse. Host yes. Here is the front page story today in Los Angeles Times talking about that incident with these San Bernardino sheriffs office. Francis pusok is the name of the man involved in that. There is a picture of the helicopter footage of the beating there. Caller those 10 cost, as far as im concerned, put an example to the fella who said, the mob has many hats but no brains. They showed no brains. They all ought to be excluded from ever serving as believe that Police Officers again. I just want to mention, in the state of michigan in 1855 has to law passed a law that no Police Official in any weight could help any slavers coming up to get their slaves back. There is still a lot of racism in this country. I wish brian lamb would do a program on that. Thank you for taking my call. Have a great day. Host sheridan in columbus, ohio. Some of the issues he brings up. They were addressed in a poll from the conference of mayors. They put out april after one of their meetings earlier this year. One of the questions asked of several thousand americans was how would you rate your police force protecting the safety and rights of people . 62 said positively. 32 said negative. That was one of the polling questions in a large list of questions from the conference of mayors. Its go to kyle in new carlisle, indiana. Good morning. Caller hows your morning going, sir . Host all right. Go ahead. Caller ive been having a lot of problems with my local Police Department. I have tried to call the state police and talk to them, and have them investigate. They refused to come investigate. Its like, a small town, a good old boy system. The cops and politicians can do pretty much whatever they want. Nobody checks them. Im having some problems with my Police Department and some other agencies. Im looking for some advice like, who do i go to to try to solve some of this corruption time dealing with . Host kyl, who do you think you can trust here . Is it a matter of trust . Can you go to the higher outs not just the officers themselves, or do you think you have been stymied wherever you go . Caller i have got to the police liaison. Ive got to the county police the state police. Ive even had a chat with the fbi. Its like no one wants to listen. I talked to my congresswoman. Ive talked to the department of justice at the federal level. I talked to pretty much everybody and nobody wants to touch the problem. Host so, what do you think you will do from here . Caller i guess i have to find somebody who will listen to me. And then take action. I dont know who that will be. Host kyle a new carlisle, indiana. James is up next in grand forks north dakota. Caller how are you doing . Its me again. Can you hear me . I got cut off last time i called. I go back and forth a lot as a migrant worker. I go back and forth i grew up in the philadelphia area, so i have a bit of a different opinion. Also, i want to qualify myself. A lot of people that called you know, i have been roughed up by cups in my life. I have blonde hair and blue eyes. I used to get drunk a lot. I got thrown in a jail there was a guy that wanted to beat me up. In nashville, it was like cool hand luke, i was behaving like an 80. And you have no one who will back you up if you are a white guy. No one will march for you. Its about behavior. This is definitely a different thing going on in South Carolina. Im not defending this. I do want to say one thing. We have five black cops killed in the last year. I look at my philadelphia paper online. There was a black cop killed. I challenge some of you white liberals to go to north philly when the sun goes down, and see what happens to you. We had 500 people or so killed on average i cops in a country of 320 million. That is pretty low. The majority of those the last statistic was in 2012 about 100 were black. Host some of the issues you bring up, some of the racial implications, we want to show the front of time magazine, in the wake of the Walter Scott Shooting. Black lives matter, is the front of the magazine. Gary writes about some of these issues saying, the casual brutality displayed by police van supports the complaints of many black americans. We want to hear about this issue of trust from our viewers. For about the next half hour or so are lines are open. Youvette is waiting per. Caller do you trust the police in your community . That is the question. I live about 20 minutes from baltimore maryland. The baltimore maryland Police Department has been notorious for corruption. My god, they have 17 officers that were arrested for drug trafficking. They were arrested by that be i. They have brutalized black americans in this community for years. They can charge all the time. Of course, nothing ever happens to them because they dont make the local news. You know what, like i said, i dont trust them personally 100 , absolutely not. The question you should ask is is this guy, officers later slager going to be convicted. Offices get charge all the time, but nothing ever happens to them. Will he be convicted . That is the question you need to post everybody. Thank you very much. Host here is an editorial cartoon in todays Washington Post. On the left, the officer justifiable, on the right, indictable. I want to read a letter to the editor on this topic, the use of police cameras. This is from George Elster in Washington Post today. That is a letter to the editor in todays Washington Post. Betty, what do you think in ohio . Caller you said, every black man should carry a cell phone and be prepared. That is the way that the people have been taught in the last two years, to disrespect, be on guard, disrespect. If people would just stop and respect each other, color has nothing to do with it. If you need a police van you will call one, and you will be glad when they come. I know that. I just think that people should stop all this anger and all this they put people to trials, they test people to see how far they can go with them. That is what is wrong with everything. Policemen are just people. President s are just people. Some president s are black, some are white. Color has nothing to do with it. Either you are together and a decent person, or you are not. Host betty in ohio. Lee is up next in pennsylvania. Lee, good morning. Caller retired barbers like me from concrete first, helping barbaras in the trenches, the American People cannot panic over rule. That is why we have judges. White barbaras like myself serve blacks and wife. Blacks and whites. We do not go by race. Especially veterans coming home. They were sent to foreign wars. They sent me letters and thank me for what little i can do financially. Later on, im invited to go to the mainline church to teachs sunday school. Host bring this back to trust in your community and police. Caller dont panic over an exception of what is going on all across the nation. Thats what im trying to say. Host that was lee and pennsylvania. Ill is up next in sioux falls. Al, tell us about your community. Caller this is something that quote on quote black men have had to deal with for years. We call it dwb, driving while black. Who gets pulled over for a traffic light out while jiving a mercedesbenz. That is racial profiling. You are talking about a saturday morning. Pulling a guy over for that, that does not happen. The same thing happens in the midwest as well. If the person is in the wrong place at the wrong time, if they have probable cause, they can pull them over. Host do you see the police doing anything to try and build trust in sioux falls . Caller not really. They basically quote on unquote trying to make themselves friendly. But basically when we have contact with them is them approaching us to pull is over. Host on twitter, the conversation is happening as well. You can follow along at cspanwj. Fred right thing, do i trust might local police, yes, but i dont trust the feds, Clinton Emails he brings up as well. Bill says, the country as a whole have not tested the police since the rodney king radio all those years ago. The video issue showing some officers in a situation from wall street journal prevalence of video puts police under the lens. Last week, a new your Police Department, the commissioner, bill bratton placed a detective on desk duty. Just some of the incidents where police video where video of police is putting them under the lens. David is up next in pennsylvania. David, good morning. Caller good morning. The answer to your question is no, i do not indeed trust the Pennsylvania State police. I think the Pennsylvania State police is one of the most corrupt organizations across the country. I do give fleet of limited at half of the police, we went would reduce thed crime. They are brutal and do not follow the law themselves. I have a great deal of contempt for the Pennsylvania State police. Host do you have experience with them . What has shaped your views . Caller actually, i know several of the members of the Pennsylvania State police. I have known several who are now retired. You know, the number of incidents not with me personally, but with other people in which they have robbed them stolen, picked up things in peoples homes that they later sell to others it is just a very corrupt organization. Host david talking but his view of Pennsylvania State police. Lets talk about your local community, your local Police Department, do you trust it . How is the Police Department reaching out to you and build trust . And have your views change in the wake of the walter scott incident . Don is up next. Thank you for getting up early. Caller good morning. Im calling back again. To let you know that blacks, hispanics, and native americans are the true jews of the world. We are scattered all over this world. People, you know, they have a perpetual hatred for blacks all over this world. Hispanics, blacks, and native americans are hated in this world. It has been that way ever since 70 a. D. When titus and his son came and ran all the jews who are blacks, native americans socalled blacks, mexicans we are due host we will try to bring this back to current time and talk about the incident in communities. Lets go to North Charleston South Carolina. Joe is calling in. Tell us about North Charleston. Caller let me share with you that i have lived in the charleston area all my life. Im very familiar with where this whole thing unfolded. If you would like me to, i can share something with you about how bizarre this whole thing is. You have seen the dash cam now right . Host yes. Caller that is in the parking lot of an Advance Auto Parts which i use. Right across the street, you will notice there is a small white building. That is a window tinting shot. Shop. That is christ street. You take a left there, where the victim ran, and he ran be on another drive way beyond those two structures which was the back entrance to a former dodge dealership and turned right into that area that you see in the video where the murder occurred. That goes up behind an area to a business called mega pond shop pawn shop, which fronts onto a very busy open space. Anyone in this area knows that that victim had no place to hide. He would have had to jump a high fence, within 30 minutes, he would have been apprehended. The cop knew that. That as to how bizarre this is. We as a community are outraged. Black and white. I listen to conservative talk radio show every morning down here. It ought to be clear, when people listen, there has not been one caller who has been defending this guy. Not one. We are sad saddened. It is a strange thing. Host what has your interaction been with the police in the week since . Have you seen them out on the streets or any efforts to rebuild trust . Todoesnt come from the prosecution that we have seen of Michael Slager . Caller i was telling your producer, he was asking me if i trust the police. I do but i am white. I think there will always be mistrust of the minority community. Here is the problem. The police filed a false report immediately. His attorney obviously knew that he lied. Andy savage, a very reputable lawyer, has taken the case. Heres the thing, he would have taken all the information and dundee forensic work done the forensic work. Im wondering what would have happened. They can tell diego of the bullets and what kind of bullets he used. They would have known right away from forensics that the officer shot the man from long range in the back. Im wondering what would have happened when they gave the information back to the prosecutor, what they would have done with it. Think goodness we had the video. Heres the thing. Host you would agree with this person who grow in on twitter saying, the fact of the matter is the officer murdered walter scott because he could and without the video, he would be on duty today. Caller you are right. Heres the thing. There was no premeditation. None of us thin

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