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Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 02202018 20180220



will drive you to the polls this. november maybe it is matters of gun control, or immigration, perhaps an interest in changing the house or senate, or to keep that from happening. what are your issues in the upcoming november elections? call and tell us, 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. independents, 202-748-8002. you can also post on twitter, or tell us about the issues leading up to the november elections on facebook, you can go to facebook.com/cspan. cnn this morning has a piece by ron brownstein taking a look at the november elections and the places that will decide, in his estimation, the 2018 election. he says "red pockets, blue-collar blues" those labels describing the seats in the house of representatives that will likely determine control of the chamber in the election. virtually analysts agree that the epicenter of vulnerability for the majority for republicans are the red pockets, the predominantly white color suburban -- that the gop holds in metropolitan areas that are solidly them credit including orange county, call poignant, new jersey and the suburbs outside of new york city. even if democrats make gains in those districts, none of to provide the party for the 24 seats needed to change over the house. those red pockets will be the most reliable source. he also says long-term trends have seen democrats demonstrate increasing strength up and down the ballot and in major metropolitan areas, even in republican leaning states. that is some of his issues when it comes to the 2018 election and what could change that. mitch mcconnell, even as the majority leader, in an interview done a couple of days ago and reported on in the business insider, says he projects as well that a seat in the upcoming election. he is quoted in the new york times saying "the odds of that we will lose seats, history tells you that. we going to this clear eyed, this will be quite a challenging election." he pointed to the fundraising cap ahead of the elections, which he says was spurred by a large number of democratic challenges for those seats that had been deemed safe. the story ends that into trouble women have stepped up to the plate and 2018 to challenge republican incumbents. a record doubling number of women, 79, considering running for governor in 2018. with the midterm elections coming up in november, we want to let you know about your interest in them, and what your issues are. maybe it is a matter of economics, gun control, or other issues. you can let us know, republicans, 202-748-8001. democrats, 202-748-8000. and independents, 202-748-8002. you can also post on our social media sites. on the phone, starting off is jay, hampton, connecticut on the independent line. thank you for calling. tell us about the issues that concern you most going into november. caller: think you for having me on -- thank you for having me on. i've a question about mitt romney's qualifications for running on any ticket. on -- when he was running for president, an interview with the massachusetts governor that took over after him. that mittm was romney's administration left them with a half page of to run thes on how massachusetts government, but the actual problem was that all the government computers had been wiped clean. host: that is one concern you have going into the midterm elections, is that the most concern or are there other issues you are concerned with going into them? caller: listen to what the concern is. what possible reason is there being for wiping the massachusetts government computers? what could those be? when you made that case, it comes to mitt romney and was the president offering support for his senate run, saying he announced he is running for the senate from the wonderful state of utah. he will make a great senator and successor to orrin hatch and has my full support and endorsement. the president giving that on twitter. then a response from mitt romney, saying thank you for the support and i hope i ran the support and endorsement of the people of utah. that is one of the issues going into the november elections. florida.ma city, beach liz, cohead, you're on -- go ahead, your on. ok, we will go to loretta. democrats line. caller: good morning. one of my issues is gun control. is soot understand how it easy for individuals to get whatever you call them, and why they are on the streets. i looked at ebay one day and us on one of these guns advertised for sale. an so why is it not organization that looks at the internet and ebay and places like this where you can purchase, you can actually purchase these guns on ebay? host: how do you think the november elections will change that, particularly depending on who you plan to vote for? caller: that would help, ok? that would help stop some of the killing, because we have too many. then if you look at these people these places,g in schools and stuff like that, shooting, these are not muslims like everybody wants to blame all the shooting and bombing on the muslims, these are americans. the washington post has a poll taken a look at the president and congress, if they are doing enough on issues of gun control, particularly -- do you think the congress is doing enough to prevent mass shootings in the country? 11% -- 19% say they are doing enough, 11% say that congress is a strongly doing enough, 59% itagree with that, when comes to the president 21% say that the president is doing enough on this issue, 62% say not doing enough, 50% of those strongly disagreeing he is doing enough on the issue. of gun control one of those concerns you have going into the election, there may be others as well. the president this morning reportedly opened to the idea of doing more when it comes to federal background checks, saying that the president on monday expressed his support for some changes to the gun background check system by opening the door to a bipartisan congressional proposal designed to improve the sharing of mental health and criminal record information between state and local agencies. "while discussions are ongoing and revisions considered, the president is supportive of efforts to improve the federal back on check system." that from sarah sanders. gun control may be one issue, there may be other issues driving you to the polls this november. republican line, from trenton, new jersey, tom go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. i think the most important issue is immigration. , aunts,r and uncles they are all democrats and i think that my generation turned republican. i think we are flooded with immigrants. i do not know if our economy can handle all of those. with welfare and help and, i do not know, nobody is assimilating. i think we need to stabilize immigration at a certain level for awhile. host: as far as the legislators that represent you, how do they stand on illegal immigration? caller: i do not know, i have one of the republicans who is -- he is on the liberal side, by will support what he does. i cannot expect my legislator to agree with everything that i think. on the other issues, i think that i stand by him because he is really reasonable in his a spending, we cannot reduce it completely, but we have to reduce it by a certain amount and i can live with that. arizona, theake in senator from arizona in an op-ed this morning talks about what is going on with the dreamers, when it comes to the daca legislation and the attempt that failed in the senate last week. "i cannot see congress agreed with the president on a package that has a path to citizenship for daca participants. changes to our structure, comprehensive reform has proved to be beyond our grasp. when the senate reconvenes the first action i will take is to introduce a bill extending daca protections for three years and providing $7.6 billion to fully fund the first three years of the border security proposal. the free forthat free approach is far from a perfect solution, but it would provide a temporary fix by beginning the process of improving border security and ensuring daca recipients will not face potential deportation." immigration might be your issue, as our caller expressed. gun control might be your issue. we want to hear about those issues this our. 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. 202-748-8002 for independents. william is next on the independent line. caller: i have seen [indiscernible] from congress. you know, the people that give the money, i do not think my by the money.- b that is the only way we take our country back. people,e individual 535. they want to tell how 300 million americans live. we need to tell them what we need and then they vote on it. what somebody -- whether we need guns or do not need them is not important. host: jeanette on twitter says, "i would like to see the leaders of the house and the senate enact a law of term limits. it should not be a career. this would give fresh ideas into congress, help people have more faith in politics." john in pennsylvania, democrats line. i, this is john. inconcern, among many, is pennsylvania, the state supreme court has just issued a newly drawn map of the congressional districts. it was different than the governor's map and the republican majority map. my county has been split in half. johnstown now in district 15. district 13, excuse me. north of johnstown, the city i live in, that is not in -- now in district 13. pennsylvania has become a wildcard state. i'm not happy with my current republican congressman, i think he is a coca circuit -- koch circuit. as pennsylvania -- kock circuit. -- surrogate. as pennsylvania goes, -- host: do you think of pennsylvania that will challenge the map? caller: when the supreme court said that the republican drawn map was on constitutional, by the state constitution, they appealed to the supreme court and the spring court deferred to the state court because the decision was made initially in the state supreme court, so they said, hands off. the republicans are at fault. the governor summit at his map at the -- submitted his map at the last minute. long story short, the court made the choice. now they have completely redone the map, it is completely refigured, and according to the experts it is nonpartisan and it is a competitive map. gerrymandering is done in pennsylvania. that is part of the reason that congress is the poison is. it is time for this to change. pennsylvania is leading the charge, i'm happy to say. host: john in pennsylvania, we have showed you this map several times, this coming from the state supreme court which originally ordered the map. here is the republicans version. whether new -- will stem from that, we will see. line,on the republican talking about the issues leading up to the november elections. caller: good morning, i would like to state that the house of representatives, we need to clean house on both sides. i do not ever hear them talk about how this country is not self supported any longer. we need more jobs here. and also on immigration, i do not see anything wrong with -- everything is being taken over by technology, we need our students. gun control, it should start in the home. take the computers and games and everything out of the kids' hands and sit down at the dinner table and be parents again. host: the idea of the country being self-sufficient, what do you mean by that? wrong: if anything goes and we are cut off from everybody, how are we going to our our people, clothe people, do anything? we do not make our own planes and ammunition. china takes everything for the we turnedn, even -- over to them. how can we support ourselves? host: a viewer says one of the issues that he or she is looking for this november is to protect the security of our elections, defend us against russian attacks aimed our elections, this coming after the indictment of 30 people involved in that. the larger issues of these troll farms, and that involvement. these are some of the issues we can talk about the next 45 minutes. 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. 202-748-8002 for independents. going to our c-span library, you will see leaders of both sides speaking with constituents, members of congress, by the november elections. was thehose leaders former vice president joe biden speaking with democrats at their retreat last week, talking about the midterm elections. here is some of what he expressed. [video clip] >> who would've thought that we would be here at this moment, with a this president? we have a president who is consumed by his political survival. it is the beginning, middle and the end. everything is run through the filter of how it affects donald mind. and donald trump's no matter, as we look at this he is in the process of shredding some of our core values. theknow, things that -- institutions i never thought that we would ever be talking about, are in jeopardy. there is attack on the guys wearing a striped shirts, the press and the courts. it is a technique that has been used repeatedly throughout history by those who want to clear the field so that they are in a position to abuse power, more than they otherwise would be able to do. is no matter how much damage being done to the moral fabric of the nation, or no matter how much damage is being done to our standing in the world. i will not get into quoting statistics, but you know what the national, the international polling shows now about how we are viewed as a nation. we are below, not much above russia, we're below china. it is things are changing in a way that have so many long-term profound impacts on our security. now we have a republican party that seems to have its major role, and i think they know better, to do anything to protect this president. host: if you want to see that speech to democratic members of congress, go to our website at c-span.org. you will see other messages that the members -- to the members of congress. c-span.org is where you can find that. liz, good morning come alive for live for -- morning, democrats. caller: after listening to these kids in florida this weekend, it really hit me how they seem to know just a little but more about politics and what is going on in this country and how to work on a nonpartisan way to get some of this stuff done and i think they made a very poor net poignantich is -- point, which is the lobbyists and the money that they are putting in today's candidates, enough is enough. and when they called b.s. on that, i was a super proud of them. if we want to look at these elections coming up, they say andof the mouths of babes these kids really know what is going on. they are super intelligent. and they have my support and they are right, they are dead on. is it about guns, is it about this stuff, i think it is more about what they are saying, working in a nonpartisan manner, which is not what is happening now and getting this lobbyist money out of washington. host: ok, liz talking about the protests in florida. protests in front of the white house last night, students part of that. here is video from the washington post website of those students, some wind down and holding signs, some just standing, this in support of solidarity about the issues that were raised about the shooting that took place in florida. we got that from the washington post website. philip, cambridge my maryland. republican line. good morning, go ahead. caller: i am glad that we do not have 14-year-old kids voting, that is why we have 18-year-olds voting, because they are thinking more about it. gun control, if we take -- let ar-15's., i own three i have probably 25 guns, i do not know how much ammunition. one of my guns, i loaded it last night and i put it on the porch and this morning i looked out there and it did not shoot a person by itself. it is the people. if you take the ar, then they grab a shotgun. are we going to ban those next? more people are killed with pistols, will we been pistols? -- ban pistols? host: is that the main issue driving you? caller: i will be joining the nra again. i would rather get shot with an ar-15 one time, it is a tiny bullet. i have mine for shooting coyotes and foxes. you take a shotgun with buckshot and you have probably 25 shot you are using, you might have 25 shots coming out and it will spend maybe 10 feet wide. you hearlip -- when the president opened the idea of expanding, or doing some more when it comes to federal background checks, is that something you are ok with? caller: more background checks, we dropped the ball. we had warnings. the three major shootings we had, except for the one in las vegas, they were never passed the background check. the guy in the church shooting in texas, they -- if they had in the paperwork right, he would've never passed. i thought about it, i am so glad the neighbor had an ar-15 and came out and shot him before he shot everybody. host: ok, that was philip giving us thoughts on gun control, an issue he is concerned with. the first item on the majority agenda for the house turning back the house schedule, he says, the representative al green's impeachment resolution, that is what he wants to see if democrats take control of the house next year. let's go to andrew in chicago, illinois, democrats want. -- line. caller: good money, the gentleman from pennsylvania still a little of my thunder on gerrymandering, but i want to follow up on that also. our system, are looked world alstem in america -- elector system in america is rigged, not just by the russians, but by the republican gerrymandering that is going around this country and has been around since 1812. i do not know if a lot of people know, gerrymandering started from a governor in massachusetts. eldridge gerry. he would skew the senate districts in massachusetts in 1812 to help the republicans. now, what the supreme court did in pennsylvania is telling the whole country, and all these gerrymandered districts and states, that congressional seats are going to be of for grabs in the midterm election. when you look at where gerrymandering has done the most in this country, it is north carolina, pennsylvania, west virginia, kentucky, texas, thatsas, these are states if i was a republican and i was running for a house seat or senate seat, i would be scared to death. host: let's go to paul in florida, republican line. caller: good morning, i think immigration will be a big subject and i think it will be interesting to see what hispanics, especially mexicans, do in the election. are they going to allow the democratic party to knock them out of a sure thing, that the republicans are willing to give them? host: apologies. he dropped. speaking of florida, this from the palm beach post in florida, the announcement that the five term representative tom rhody not seeking reelection in 2018. in a decision his brother believes was partly influenced by the june shooting at the practice of the republican congressional baseball team, "i am shocked that the boynton beach resident, dismayed, because we need voices like his in the u.s. congress." one of his brothers said he was not surprised, "i new he was a struggling with the decision." "i think he tried to do what he wanted to do." you can read it on the palm beach post website. your issues when it comes to the november election. several expressed in this morning and you can add to that as well. mary in california, democrats line. caller: i was thinking with all of these teenagers in florida being shot to death, there needs to be something done about this, but i think you can link it is 17 years at war. we glorify war, soldiers, we glorify them killing others. iraqis killed, 3000 americans? these high school kids, the 19-year-old that shot of his high school in florida, i look at them and i think, what a pity. and to hear that the fbi vetted him a couple months ago and they could not take away the kid's ak-47 or whatever it was -- host: do you think congressional elections will change that though? caller: i do not think so, but i was hoping that the president, i did not vote for him, but i was hoping -- he six about the war being a waste of money and i know that -- speaks about the war being a waste of money and i know that he does not talk about potential, but maybe if we got out of this war we could work on our teenagers and how to keep them from shooting everybody. host: front page of the palm beach post, the story about the school massacre and the survivors, some of the efforts taking place because of that. the president's fuming, as they describe it, about the russian investigation, part of the front page coverage. from milwaukee, wisconsin, independent line. john, hello. caller: i have found it really interesting, sad as it is, that all these young, white teenagers are up in arms about these issues. now, i wonder if they would figure out -- will figure out that killing is a way of life. how did europeans come to acquire this continent? they have always been killers. you can't take all of the ar-15's away from men, then maybe we can figure out why white men are the predominant shooters. host: you are calling in on the top issues of the election come is gun control one of those for you? caller: it is a major thing. this thing is out of hand. they are going to have to attack it now, but you watch the way the republicans defended their right to literally be able to kill people. host: how dear legislators stand on these issues? caller: they are fools too. this is a hunting state. i work with many younger than i am, i am kind of old, i will be 82 in may, but they are older than i am and they definitely believe in their guns. i own guns too, but i will not pick up a gun and shoot anybody. as much as young black people are shooting each other, they are not doing this. we need to look at this country's morals, the moral compass, and figure out why we kill. host: let hear from pat in kentucky. caller: good morning. host: good morning. go ahead. caller: ok, i want to talk about gun control. host: is that your top issue in the election? caller: yes. by executive order, bill clinton banned assault weapons. going to created a sentence -- read a sentence from cnn. blaze of gunfire ripped through a community after several gunmen, dressed as commandos, launched a bank robbery. the police were allowed only to have their sidearms. some had shotguns. " remember? host: do you think -- caller: the robbers had a truckload of weapons. host: can i ask you a question? caller: piercing armor. if people would go and see the 9 elementary schools were on lockdown. escaped, they went to a residential community, an officer blasted out -- host: pat, let me ask you, do you think the november elections will change of this philosophy? will it bring back the assault weapons ban or change anything substantial on gun control? caller: if people would look at this, at what happened is two people playing against needthing there, they their own body armor, everything, because they knew that the cops were limited. host: jeagene in arizona. caller: good morning. how are you? host: good. do you have an issue at the top of your mind for november? caller: there are several of them. let me talk about this. i am a 79-year-old disabled vet. if people think the second amendment, they stand by it, maybe we should go back to slavery and everything else. that is when they were forming the constitution. there is no reason why every hispanic, born and raised in miami, arizona, the richest state in america should have a medical for every american, why not? host: do you think an election will change that? caller: no, i am a liberal to mecca. -- liberal democrat. i stand for freedom, support the troops, and my son was 26 years in the military, world military. and they are not as great as they think they are. talking about issues, several people talking about gun control. you can mention that or other things as well. 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. independents, 202-748-8002. pennsylvania, congressional district 13, race playing out in that section and one of the people involved, one group involved, is the congressional leadership fund, closely aligned with house speaker paul ryan, putting $1.5 million into tv at the head of the march 13 special election. it will start on friday, two stops from the -- there, but the show you the ad from the 13th district and one person it features, nancy pelosi. [video clip] tolamb doing to pelosi defend obama care. lamb worked in the obama administration that encouraged sanctuary cities, putting illegal immigrants back on the street. and negotiated the iranian deal to give billions to the leading funder of terrorism. lamb and pelosi, too liberal on too many issues. times takes a look at one of those -- the new york times takes a look at one of those districts with ted cruz of texas. t are talking about the democratic congressmanhey -- they are talking about the democratic honest man speaking with a crowd, trying to make an improbable case that he can defeat the incumbent republican ted cruz. democrats need to pick up two seats in the midterm elections to win control of the senate, but they also must defend incumbents in 10 states that donald trump one. -- won. seats in arizona that will be vacated by incumbents. with democratic money playing defense for those in missouri, indiana and west virginia and elsewhere, no cover he is expected to help them. democrats will need wins wherever they can get them, the longshot is going it alone. more from this story on the new york times this morning. there are other races happening. as it stands with the resignation this morning, 53 seats potentially open on the house side. . you sow what is happening on the senate side what happens to you when you go to november, the issues that drive you to the polls, economic and otherwise? give us a call and let us know. 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. independents, 202-748-8002. chris is next, santa clarita, california. republican line. caller: good morning. i was watching your show for the hearing allur -- this stuff about gun control, clinton signing the bill against assault weapons. in 1935, this bill was passed ending assault weapons, known as machine guns back then. assault weapons have still been banned since 1935 in america. what they are talking about now, they say assault weapons, assault rifles. all they are is a gun that looks like the military does, you still have to pull the trigger one time for one shot. some people found a way to get around this, they can do that with just about anything, but it is not clinton, it is not bush who signed it the bills banning the guns and keep on banning them, they have been banned since 1935. host: do you think the november elections will settle or change this issue significantly? caller: to tell you the truth, i think by the time the elections come around, this will be forgotten and it will be a lot about immigration. and i heard somebody talking people killed in florida the other day, and they were talking about how many people in america have been ame d by illegal immigrants with handguns and it was more than those killed in florida. host: lisa, houston, texas. caller: hello. my votinge education decision maker for, even right now we are having our primaries starting tomorrow and -- sorry, today. that is how i will be deciding. here in texas, we have one of the largest economies in the world, we of the energy capital of the world in houston, the port of houston, which is a huge economic engine that is running through our country, yet the people that are in charge of this state are just driving us into an austerity meltdown. they are trying to take away public education from our children by d funding it incrementally, little by little, until you have a separation of have-nots.'s and if you do not have public education, how can you make your step up to the next level? host: if i may ask, what numbers are we talking about in the de-escalation that you are speaking of? caller: it started, i would say like 10-15 years ago, where they started with the universities. we have state universities that used to be funded, helpwed by the state -- helped by the state. it was something like 60% among on down to something like 20% in the last 15 years, so that is where they started with in the college areas. now they come into our school districts, they call them independent school districts d,re, and they have defunde they only meet every two years, ok? theylast session ma defunded it, this independent school district i am in, we were at $5 billion and they are keeping it at $4 billion. like, all caps, of people are coming into houston from other states are looking for employment -- all kinds of people are coming into houston from other states and looking for employment. we have huge school districts, yet they are lowering money for our public schools. host: lisa, thank you for talking about education being her main issue, especially on the local level with that area's issues. missouri, independent line. mike from oak grove. caller: good morning, pedro. concernedhing i am about in this 2018 election would be to get some people elected who will help to keep my family and my insurance, since the republicans are trying to take from all the people who do not already have, and i think that we need to get people elected that are going to back the sanctions that we have put on russians. and not let donald trump wriggle out of hurting his friends. host: when you are talking about insurance, do you mean under the aca, health insurance, what do you mean? caller: yes, under the aca. my family did not have insurance before it came out and it made it possible for me and my family to have insurance. trump and is republicans want to take that from me. i hope we get people elected that will help the public and not the rich. host: the caller mentioning russians, several stories in the papers dealing with the rush investigation by robert mueller. victor morton this morning saying it is the central council that reportedly is expanding the probe into a key family member, according to cnn, reporting monday that mr. mueller is investigating jared kushner, the sun and lot of the president on his reported meddling in the 2016 presidential race. "now includes his efforts to secure financing from foreign investors during the presidential transition." the first indication that mr. mueller is explored his discussions with potential non- foreign investors, including china. that is in the washington times. from page of the washington times, a story about paul manafort, saying that the special counsel threatening to file more criminal charges against mr. manafort, according to his attorney who said in court, that it suggests prosecutors are deliberately trying to deplete his clients resources. the investigation is headed by andrew weissman, who is known for rough investigative tactics, and getting guilty pleas. he said in a court filing that mr. manafort has expressed doubts that he can maintain payments on all his mortgages. his condominium is at risk of foreclosure, he said. his attorney filed his argument on february 16, u.s. district court. to support his lawsuit against the justice department, he is asking the district court judge to end the special counsel's investigation of mr. manafort. perhaps it is the special investigation that is an interest of years -- yours this november, there could be other things too. maryland, democrats line. go ahead. caller: my concern is about abortion. that we fight for operations. guns, thatth are taking a gun, killing people, it is more than that. they do not fight for that. they just fight for abortion. bringing people into this world. they go to school and they kill. that is my one concern about it this year. anythingo stand for that kills a human being. host: las vegas, nevada, republican line. we will hear from joe. caller: hi. 24-7,g as they publicize when there is a shooting someplace, people will just keep doing it. i told my wife, when they had the sandy hook shooting, i said the publicity that it got will keep happening because these people that, they are sick in their heads, and they want the publicity. host: joe in nevada. the point of how democrats are looking at the november elections, the chairman ben ray lujan was on newsmakers and it said he is on the committee that takes a look at congressional elections for democrats and talking with reporters he said, when it comes to the message democrats will deliver for the elections, it will not be all about president trump. [video clip] >> there are enough reasons to vote against this administration, i will not highlight them. i think that you are seeing the american people are tired about talking about this president, and our candidates will be talking about what is most important to the american people around the kitchen table. if we can continue to do that while republicans struggle to explain why president trump, one scandal after another follows him, we will be talking about economic issues, about what it takes to make life better for everyday folks. host: if you want to hear more about that message, go to our website at c-span.org. from a previous taping you can hear the congressman's thoughts. c-span.org is the website to go for that. when it comes to the issue of the russian elections, the president tweeting, like he does several times a day, this is the latest saying that there is no serious person that was a just you can even rig america's elections, no evidence it has happened in the past or it will happen this time. i would invite mr. trump to stop whining and make a case to get votes. adding that president obama, just before the election, went on to say that is because he saw crooked hillary was going to win and he did not want to rock the boat. then the russia excuse became the narrative of the democrats. that was from the president, from his twitter address. sheila, republican line. tell us your top issue leading into the november election. caller: mine is on china. host: ok. caller: i do not know, if you go to their website and you look up their mission statement, they -- beis clear that they plan to above the united states economically, which they bebably are, and the plan to ahead of us militarily, and i think that they are. i do not know if they marketable know that they have a weapon now that we cannot defend, on their ships. a weapon that we cannot defend. while our people that are elected in congress say that we are number one, we are not. america'sven aware of mission statement, but you go to china, i think they are doing a good job. host: what would you like to see, what would you like the elected members of congress to do specifically about china? caller: i would like to know what our mission statement is, number one. i do not see him mentioned. i think they need to put more money into the military. if we cannot defend ourselves against them, they have -- this oas on c-span, i listened t brian snow interview them on a ship. they will overtake us on our ships. we do not even have big ones at all. we will have to spend more money on the military, for one thing. i wish you would do a topic on that, their mission statement. we need to know more about it. host: caller on the independent line. caller: yes, how are you doing? host: hi. caller: gun control and nra. i am in florida and you have to between one to buy beer, -- to to buy beer, but only 18 to buy a gun. that needs to change. they need to raise the limit. host: how will that affect how how a vote this november -- you will vote this november? caller: i am not clear on that but i will not be voting for donald trump. host: several people concerned about gun control, oand others talk about education among the last caller talked about china. forcan call 202-748-8001 republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. 202-748-8002 for independents. trumpeek in ohio, donald talking about jobs, tax cuts and higher wages, and the idea of made in the usa. some of that from last week. [video clip] >> we've already created nearly 2.6 million jobs since the legend, including new jobs in manufacturing. those are real jobs, not the other kind where they talk, there is nothing there. we are bringing back those four-words, "made in the usa." [applause] look out usa is one word. is that right? have to think about that one. unemployment claims have hit a 45 year low. think of that. just think of that. [applause] something i have been talking about for two years, campaigning. everybody said he will never do it. after years of wage stagnation, wages, this happened two days ago and a month ago, wages are now for the first time in many years, rising. [applause] in fact, more companies are rightng pay increases now than at any time in th a long time. they actually said, in the 21st century. can you believe that? it is amazing what people with good ideas can do. it is amazing what we have done together. this has been an incredible journey, but it is happening even faster. way into the sea gdp, we into the see what happens to our country, because people can feel it. billions and billions of dollars are being poured back into the united states. at the center of the resurgence of the massive tax cuts we just passed before christmas, remember two things. i said, we would be able to say christmas again and i said i would give you a christmas present. host: the economy, part of the republican message going into the elections. you may cite that as your top concern and how legislators handle that, others too. rob in new york. caller: good morning. c-span.u for i think it should show the clock everyt, c morning. it is out of control. tax cuts do nothing to lower the debt. the issue for me that is most and itant in 2018 is to, am reaching out to my republican into ouris to put back government the system of checks and balances, because right now we do not have any checks and balances on the president and it is because the republicans are sitting on their hands. is tosue for 2018 is, elect democrats into the government everywhere. believe the nation has an intuition. it does not make a difference if you have an education or do not, i do not have much of an education myself but i am still an intelligent guy and i think this president is so, we are so -- he is tiring, exasperating, and everything he says is empty. he has no knowledge of what he is doing. actually, one quick question, did you ever have a job that made you unhappy? i think our president has a job where he is not happy and i have had jobs where i was unhappy outcome in late, i would take long bathroom breaks, i would use my vacation days to work a four-day week, this man is not happy and he should not be where he is, it was a mistake we hired him in the first place, and i think we need to hire democrats going forward. host: wendy in michigan, republican line. caller: good morning. how are you doing? host: fine. caller: i have heard the kids in florida and the kids getting together and showing the adults, you have not done it right, let us show you. i am so worried if the legislatures do not listen to these kids, this could turn them off. right now, i say to those kids, you keep pushing because you are the future that is going to make the difference. and when i heard the guy this morning from maryland who said that he had 15 weapons, why? why does he need all those guns? let's get the assault weapon ban back on the books and make it stick. that is the main issue for me. host: do you think that that is something that people in congress would follow or back? caller: they had it once before, why was it rescinded? i see no reason on god's earth why a person has to have an assault rifle. and it is just, just something i do not understand. to see these kids that are now finally coming out and saying we want to be heard, we are scared, we do not want to go to school and have these weapons around us. more power to them, because they will be the ones that will be making this government in the years ahead and did they have to elect, if they are old enough to vote, they have to vote in the midterm elections and make their feelings hurt. -- heard. host: the washington journal has a story looking at guns with state-by-state issues, 12 states including kansas and missouri now have a law that will allow people to carry concealed handguns without a permit. that is according to the giffords law center. north dakota, georgia and a growing number of other states have recently passed laws giving gun owners the right to carry firearms into places like parks, concerts and churches, and at least 22 states have pending bills allowing guns at schools and colleges. oklahoma passing a law allowing staff to carry handguns in schools if they undergo a training program. a new law and i will lead to children under 14 have firearms with adult supervision. and to carry those weapons into city hall's. good morning. thank you for calling on the independent line. caller: good morning. i have a laundry list of stuff to talk about my do not know how long you will let me talk. host: we only have about a minute. go ahead. caller: i would say my general welfare of the american people is my concern. and that is a big umbrella. mean,s taxes, gun -- i the gun tragedies, i have an assault rifle and i would gladly give it up if that would make a difference in preventing any kind of assault or tragedy like we had. i do not know, i can go on and on. [indiscernible] host: i am sorry, you are cut off in the middle of that. melanie in new orleans, last call. caller: my issue for the new ofction is the evaluation the electoral college. lost by 3trump million votes, why did the elect oralpresident? caller: i do not see why voters would stand in line for the electoral college to put in somebody else. her topic, the electoral college. the topic of our next guest joining us is lanny davis. he will talk to us about his new book which argues that james comey is to blame for mrs. clinton losing the white house. he is the author of the unmaking of the president. media watcher howard kurtz is after. -- wea about his new book will tell you about his new book. >> c-span, where history unfolds daily. in 1979, c-span was created as a public service by america's cable television companies. today, we continue to bring you unfiltered coverage of congress, the cut test the white house -- the white house, and public policy events and wasn't in and around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. c-span's history series landmark case -- landmark cases. a look at a significant supreme court decision on mcculloch v maryland. explore this case with sarah peterson and mark killen back. author of mcculloch v maryland, securing a nation. watch landmark cases live on monday. listen with the free c-span radio app. order a copy of the landmark cases companion book. 895. available for for an additional resource, visit the link on our website. washington journal continues. host: joining us is lanny davis. he is the author of the unmaking of the president 2016. the also served as the white house special counsel for the clinton administration. good morning to you say or. -- good morning juice or. i just looked at the statistics. i tried not to offer opinions. i think that rod rosenstein had a -- had it exactly right. what he did was a firing offense when he offered his opinion. something that is not allowed. it is a firing offense. he offered his opinion on hillary clinton's female practices. when he sent a letter on -- hillary clinton's email practices. defying the deputy attorney general's wishes. james comey gets to decide what is right and what is wrong. that narcissistic attitude is what caused rod rosenstein to write a memo. he was exactly right. in retrospect, james comey would not sell mr. rosenstein -- would not tell mr. rosenstein he had any regrets. his books had the word higher loyalty. his loyalty is not to the law, the policy, or the rules. he gets to define what that loyalty is. it caused -- the cost hillary clinton the presidency. host: you reference statistics quite a bit. why do you make that case looking at the polls? guest: i looked at three or four different ways. one is the head-to-head contest before the october 20 letter. i also looked at emotions and impressions that changed between right before the october 20 letter and right after. every measurement -- not just the head-to-head polls. the polls did call the election. hillary clinton one by 3 million votes. that was the prediction. i did more than just polls. if i could show you some charts for your viewers, it would visually prove my case. guest when we tal -- host: why don't talk about the net drop we saw. guest: this would be chart number two. the morning of the 28th of -- the, then effort national average of all polls showed are ahead by 5.9%. the morning of october 28. she isl her mistakes, ahead by 5.9%. that is a larger margin than barack obama defeated mitt romney in 2012. look what happened in chart to. october 28, she is ahead in that margin which would have allowed her to win the presidency. that is part that that is pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. large margins and states that are actually purple states that have republican governors. look what happens like a stock market crashing. within days of the comey letter. nothing else intervened. no great trump surge. just headlines saturating the american people. hillary clinton under new investigation because comey decided to violate the rules and send a letter to congress. we are going to look. is that looking first before sending the letter. that if you go back to same poll that shows the dramatic drop, you will cease -- you will see three states. states that she admitted she should've spent more time in. lightbank that was a country reading factor -- don't you think that was a contributing factor? guest:. no. .2%.chigan, in wisconsin, .7%. russ feingold ran for the senate in wisconsin. he get paid every day in wisconsin. 28, hemorning of october was ahead the same margin of hillary clinton. he crashed after the comey letter just as hillary clinton did. he campaigned everyday. it was not a matter of hillary clinton not campaigning there. it was a causation event. the sending of that letter caused her to drop in the polls like a rock in the pond. saturated news coverage around the clock. with the headline on cable television and on network television and all the major newspapers, hillary clinton under criminal investigation. two days before the election, mr. come he sent a letter. he said, poops. -- he said oops. callerst's invite the to ask a question. four republicans. (202) 748-8001 for democrats. here's a bit of that we will get your reaction to it. [video clip] justicee department of makes final decisions. you're expressing our view that no charges are appropriate in this case. i know there will be an intense public debate in the wake of this. what i can assure the american people is that this investigation was done honestly, competently, and independently. no outside influence of any kind was brought to bear. i know there were many opinions expressed by people who are not part of the investigation. none of that mattered to us. opinions are irrelevant. they were all uninformed by our investigation. we did our investigation the right way. the fbi found a fax in an entirely professional way. host: you don't buy that argument? guest: did everyone understand this? whether you are the head of the fbi or detective working for a police force, -- a senior department official was quoted in vanity fair saying you know we don't do in america? we do not shame and not charge. what mr. comey went on to do was express an opinion. he said we are not charging mrs. clinton because there was no criminal offense. he said she was, extremely careless in the handling of for emails. her paul's went down because the headline was not that she was cleared. the headlines were, james comey's opinion on the evidence in a criminal case. thatwas a firing offense comeysenstein told mr. and asked him, do you have any regrets about violating a rule? you're not allowed to express any opinion on the evidence and less you charge. -- unless you charge. mr. comey does not use those rules. the answer is in -- yet there's to a higher loyalty. that is james comey gets to decide. that is what he said the october 28 letter filing 50 years of policy that you do not speak at the justice department within 60 days of a presidential election. everybody follow that rule but one person. why? he gets to decide what is higher loyalty. that narcissism is what caused hillary clinton the presidency. host: what about the issue of how hillary clinton handled the emails herself? let me look at the camera and express it. she made many mistakes. the emails, the server. other things that happened. what campaign does not make mistakes? ones, we alll forget about the mistakes. barack obama would be the first to tell you he made many mistakes. hillary clinton made a lot of mistakes. she takes responsibility for. 28,he morning of october she is winning by a landslide. 5.9% larger than -- if i can look at slide three, this is the electoral map. what would have occurred but for the comey letter according to real clear politics and every other analyst that has looked at the map. that would've been the case had james comey not violated all the rules except the ones that james comey gets to establish. that would've been the result. host: some of those polls are the basis of our guestbook. book. our guest's first call comes from ron. caller: good morning. great guest as always. you -- it has been proven debbie wasserman schultz had it in for bernie sanders. the dnc had it in for bernie sanders. in oursians were elections. our elections were tainted. memoomey no -- the comey did not help hillary clinton. that is not why i did not vote for hillary clinton. i spoke with hillary face-to-face at one of her town hall meetings. i told her that my wife and i will be voting for bernie. to tell you the truth, i think the whole election should be nullified. hillary clinton and donald trump should be in jail. we should start all over again. host: thanks. guest: you're entitled to respect your opinions. i love the bernie sanders. debbie wasserman schultz did not cause bernie sanders to lose to hillary clinton. by 4 million votes. your support for bernie sanders, i completely respect. i truly did respect and admire bernie sanders. he lost the hillary clinton by 4 million votes. she won the nominations fair and square. she won fair and square. bernie sanders did his best to help elect or because he saw the danger of donald trump. you are putting hillary clinton and donald trump in jail is not consistent with the new process clause. it is not consistent with what citizen -- with what senator sanders says. host: from michigan, independent line. caller: good morning. i agree with what you say about the fbi and james comey. i disagree with what you say about why she lost the election. two lost the election because she played the race card at danced white -- against white america. in 2008, she played the race card against black america. in 2016 played against white america. it is taking off like a wild storm. she played the race card. me,member when she told don't you pick on my black, mexicans, transgender's. she directed that at white america. i had no choice but to go to another direction. guest: i respectfully disagree with that. i look at america as one country. i do not think of white versus nonwhite america. i'm sorry that you feel that way. 3 million people more than the total that donald trump one disagree with you. at the very least, you are in a minority view. donald trump with 41 percent approval. that is the lowest approval rating in the history of the presidency for a person after his first year. you are in a minority that sees this in racial terms rather than on the merits. we respectfully disagree. hillary clinton would've made the better president. host: i pulled this from cnn's website. according to the exit polling, she was already losing and a lot of peak constituencies. latino americans, the young. she was already kind of losing. would you admit that? guest: she definitely was losing because she lost the electoral college. she must've been winning among a lot of people. what we know with certainty. i do not offer any opinions here. everyct simply states public opinion poll gave her a 5.9% national popular vote margin. marginlectoral part electorate -- electoral vote margin. within 10 days, she dropped like a rock. nothing happened other than saturated media coverage with a national headline that she was under criminal investigation. a lot of those voters by november 9 and after were thinking, as much as i would like to see hillary clinton president or maybe i don't like her or i don't want donald trump, the vote was down. a lot of are voters -- a lot of are voters pushed over to drop. -- to trump. is aast-minute decision very important way to prove my case. polls, votersexit in the key battleground states -- let's take florida. she lost florida by 1.2%. to people who had voted up october 28 -- she was ahead by three to 5%. voters were asked, when did you make up your time? among those voters who said the last week before election day, -- shelevision coverage lost the entire state by 1.2%. to lost the last -- he lost last-minute deciders by 30% to donald trump. host: from democrats line, atlanta georgia. caller: i am a democrat. i supported bernie. i held my nose and when voted for mrs. clinton. you are forgetting a couple things. hillary clinton's scumbag husband. he forced her to have to recuse herself. there are many factors in this election. you have hillary clinton calling people deplorables. nevermind the fact that she is -- has an assistant that is married to anthony weiner who is basically a pedophile. i'm not happy what comey did. bill clinton is such a scumbag. because of the fact that he pardons some of the people he pardoned. that is going to give trump the right to pardon who he wants to. bill clinton met with loretta lynch forced -- host first, -- guest: first to get your facts wrong. she sent her opinions to the staff people that it would be a violation of the justice department's policy. get your facts straight. it had nothing to do with loretta lynch. individualtainly an who uses adjectives. i will not use the words you used about president clinton. i don't know if you look yourself in the mere and says -- ami describes you the minority that you are you. -- let me describe to you the minority that you are in. bill clinton had a 65% approval rating. that is the highest approval rating in the history of approval. you find yourself in a small minority. with all due respect, i am glad you are in a minority because most people do not use terms like that for an incumbent president with a 65% approval rating. i just want to question the validity on the basis of your research. you are going strictly based off of holes leading up to and up -- based off of polls. if you are wearing a trump shirt out on the street, you would get beat up. host: that says a lot. thank you for reminding everyone. caller: can i finish my thought? i cannot say i was going to vote for trump. i was afraid of what people would say or think. your narrative and the people that you guys paid to go beat up protesters made it so that people would not tell the truth. entire basis of your study or book is false. host: i do appreciate the fact that you reminded people that trump supporters would beat up somebody wearing a t-shirt under the first amendment. that is a terrible thing. you did state that hillary clinton reporters would be up trump supporters. that is not a fact. i would invite you to look at the last chapter of my book. i'm sure you have not read it. everyone says that polls cannot be trusted. i did not just look at the polls. withinpolls predicted 1.2% the national vote margin that hillary clinton won by. that is within 1.2 accuracy. i did not trust the polls. i look the other data. positive versus negative impressions. the studies have shown that question is answered honestly by most people. they don't always want to say who they voted for. but if they say, the job a positive or negative impression, you will get an answer that is usually accurate. but the first time in 15 months, here are the facts. hillary clinton to 50-50 on positive versus negative. she and been under negative since the mail story broke. donald trump was three to one underwater. on october 28, she was about 50-50. within three days after those headlines, hillary clinton under new criminal investigation, she dropped within three days two to one negative and cap going down. only one thing cause that. that was the comey letter. host: and the lead up, you talk about the research you have done. i'm interested to talk to you about that. you write this, you say whatever the reasons are to impose an impeachment process, one of them flout the popular will by overturning the electoral vote count that he would not have earned without the fluke of dams commies -- of james commies intervention -- james comey's intervention. guest: every senior member of thatess, every observer the russians intervened in our democracy to get alan trump -- to get donald trump elected, he denies that. research, i was against impeaching donald trump unless there is a bipartisan effort. the main argument against impeachment is the overturning of a popular election unimpaired by intervention. i cannot prove the russians elected donald trump. logic tells me that within pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin that their russians in favor of trump -- that the russians in favor of trump. i cannot prove that that cost hillary clinton the election. i can prove that right after the comey letter, she jobs like a rock. that means that trump cannot be opposed for a peek because you are -- for impeachment. there may be other reasons to impose it. the election was a fluke. impropere result of an intervention. james comey has never taken responsibility for giving this country as donald trump as president. james comey he gets to decide what the higher loyalty is. wisconsin i believe she went to once. guest: of course. in retrospect, you can look at lots of mistakes. i would just remind you that she has taken ownership for mistakes. two things can be true. one is a presidential candidate makes mistakes. that might've changed the outcome. october 28, she wins. on october 31, she dropped like a rock. the first effect is that she made mistakes. is thatnd true fact without james comey's letter, she wins the election. host: what did she say you about -- what you say to you about the book? -- what did she say to you about the book? guest: when i showed her my data, -- not the head-to-head data. the accurate impressions of her. she recognize that i had assembled data that no one else had compiled. chapter eight is where all the charts are. host: did she encourage you to go ahead? guest: she encouraged me. host: did you get any reaction from mr. comey? guest: i asked to interview mr. comey. i asked the attorney general what happened? why did you decide to extend the letter? mr. comey declined to interview me. i know that happen because somebody very senior in the united states government asked him. he had a right to say no. baltimore -- host: from baltimore maryland. go ahead. guest: good morning -- caller: good morning. imagine that hillary clinton took ownership of her mistakes. the biggest mistake i saw of trying to be impartial and not be polarized like so many other people in this country are -- the biggest mistake i saw was that when they wanted to see her servers and your emails, she had her lawyers picking and deciding what was going to be accessible for the fbi and what was not. anybody else in the united states, the fbi would of confiscated personal computers and looked at everything with a fine tooth comb. she was above the law. she picked and choose what she was going to be giving to them. if she felt he had nothing to hide, she would've given everything and let them make an impartial independent investigation. based on the limited information he had to go with, he made a decision there was nothing they could press charges on. the conference that he had -- the conference was called not to destroy her reputation but to say based on the evidence we have, the limited evidence we have -- there is nothing we can press charges with. guest: you make a valid point. she didere suspicious not allow everyone to read her personal email. unlike you, hillary clinton's personal him out what have been published in the tabloids and elsewhere. none other than former secretary of state colin powell and email advised -- in and email advise hillary clinton these two devices. one wars -- one where she could use her personal device. he used his own private device outside of the state department. he used aol's private server. during the run-up to the iraq war was hacked. comey, after one year of forensic investigation verified the server. have no evidence there was ever a hack of hillary clinton server. in retrospect, mrs. clinton had said she should never have used a single device. he should've used separate devices. i think she has recognized that with the wins them bash with the wisdom of -- she did not have a state.gov you --l address because that is a fact that most people do not know. 80 or 90% of all the emails she received were from state department diplomats that she forwarded to others. 300 diddividuals, over not use a secure communication channel because none of the 33,000 emails she received -- not one was labeled classified. not one of the 33,000 emails that she received -- finally, james comey had to admit this. he said there were a few. it turned out zero had the conspicuous classification. 300 diplomats sent to her. they did not consider the information classified. made inre judgments retrospect that some of the information was classified but was never labeled. that was why james comey could not charger. host: ryan, democrats line. ryan from jamaica. the reason hillary clinton lost the election was because she had no vision. she had an underhanded way of working. the clinton foundation only donates about 10 to 13% of the money they actually receive. knows.t is used for who why you would take a hammer to blackberries and mysteriously elite 30,000 emails -- delete 30,000 emails when there is nothing to hide insult the intelligence of the average american to say she does not have anything to hide. the clintons are dirty. i agree with you. we really should not use language such as the gentleman on a previous call used about mr. bill clinton. i would ask you -- the me too movement. -- i would to look ask you to look at the women bill clinton abused. host: let him answer. guest: you are reading too much garbage on the internet when you say 10 to 13%. go to the national association that audits charitable donations. the clinton that -- the clinton foundation is rated the highest. your 11 to 13% comes from the garbage on the internet. it is repeated so many times that you believe it is false. i would respectfully suggest you that you at least take a look at the chapter of my book. there lots of mistakes that i said hit -- that i said hillary clinton could have done over. oneber 28, she would have -- won. it proves she would have one on october 28. she was on her way up before the headlines. -- shell be donald trump still beat donald trump by 3 million votes. she lost the electoral college because that last-minute route caused by jim comey's letter. host: irvine, california. larry, your next. caller: would you tell me if it is edited or not? the facts are not just your fax. that denyother facts your facts. hillary should be in jail. guest: is that a fact? you cannot name a single fact that contradicts my facts. factsyou tell me to say and you end up hillary should be in jail, if you think that is a fact consistent with the due process clause with our constitution, you better reread our constitution. host: independent line. caller: good morning. i would like to speak to the destruction of evidence that was subpoenaed. i'm sure this gentleman knows it was against the law. the computers that were subpoenaed by the government. .aids anted immunity to the dnc was requested to submit their computers to prove they were not hacked. they did not do this. the law should apply to her. the gentleman is right. she should have been indicted and in jail. you should be a saint of yourself -- you should be ashamed of yourself. guest: just think of what you just said on national television. -- james jury or trial comey said an indictment is not necessary. very shame here and ignoring the country -- ignoring the constitution. i would remind you that what you read on the internet could be from the russian troller's that we now know existed. everybody in the u.s. government -- that donald trump appointed. the head of the cia. the entire intelligence community says that russia inserted into your information that you are misstating and believing to be true because they played you. everyone agrees that russia did that but one person in the united states that is an elected official. that is donald trump disagreeing with the people he appointed. facts andnying those reciting things on the internet including destruction of evidence. that is absolutely 100% false. they could come from russian troller's. after mrs. destroyed clinton received a subpoena. that is an absolute fact. your reading does not make it true. host: where did you get that from specifically? how wide are the sources? guest: i was completely obsessed. i started in november right after the election. i not only went to every poll published in the last two weeks of the election. host: give us an example of the polls. guest: i went from gallup to real clear. the abc washington post. the new york times. poolls.fox news pulls -- horsenot just look at the races. i reviewed 5000 poles. .- polls that is a happen where people change their feelings -- the crash of numbers of going negative0 positive within days was shocking to me. i cap searching. -- i kept searching. when i look at the final results , there was a 1.2 percent of accuracy proving that polling head-to-head confirm to me the fact that james comey cost the presidency for hillary clinton. tim, go ahead. caller: how about the obama coalition not turning out for hillary? guest: i respect the fact that you are repeating what almost everybody says. she won by 3 million votes. that was a larger margin than what obama beat mitt romney by. --the states where she lost where she was head -- where she was ahead on the morning of the 28th, she was running ahead of the obama vote. myth thatt is a african-american turnout was much lower because hillary clinton the not connect with african-americans as well as barack obama. that would not surprise me. barack obama is one of the most inspirational candidates. i will tell you that the actual amongs about 2% african-americans. very small difference between herself. from clarksville, tennessee. george, republican line. caller: hello. comey -- lines of [inaudible] whited valerie jarrett leaked to the new york times that hillary was using a private service -- private server? host: that is actually not true. do not trust what you read on the internet. i implore the audience of this great program. the internet cannot be trusted. go to the original source. valerie jarrett never leak anything to the new york times. you just repeated something that you read. you may have googled it or seen it a million times. a million times 00 -- the server was broken one day after the first story in the new york times. the associated press reported that hillary clinton had a private server. on march 4, it was pretty easy to figure out she had a private email address. the story broke one day after the first year time story on march 3, 2015. host: one more call. independent line. caller: good morning. three weeks before the october fbi had, the new york sat on anthony weiner server. the people that was running the new york fbi had told comey at that time that they had found more you knows -- more emails. comey had to go and tell congress they had found more you nelson -- found more emails. lost --t that comey a comey lost the election for her. it was the fbi of new york. they knew they had the server. they could have went to the server long before comey came out. host: got you color. -- got you caller. guest: thank you. they did tell comey on october 3 that they found larry clinton emails -- found hillary clinton emails. it took six days to look at all of the emails. they started on october 31 and ended on november 5. we know it would have taken six days. have a look on october 3 and done the bath -- done the math, they should've done a full month to run positive advertisement. she would have won the presidency. the second thing to remind you of is that when rudy giuliani went on television and said something is coming -- the maniacal look on his face everybody noticed this guy is looking unhinged. on the morning of october 28, before the comey letter was announced, on talk radio, he said i got my information from active and former fbi agents. he withdrew the word active a couple words later. he was all over the media -- all hillary clinton over the media. all of a sudden, dawn. -- gone. the media -- where in the root -- where in the world is rudy giuliani. is he afraid to be questioned under oath? why did you know three days before hand? who told him? was he part of a criminal conspiracy to leak information. those are questions under oath he decided he did not want to face. that is a whole new area for investigation. host: there is more in the book from lanny davis. lanny davis, thank you so much. coming up, we are going to hear from fox news media channel watcher. that conversation is coming up next. >> c-span, where history unfold daily. in 1979, c-span was created as a public service by america's cable television companies. today, we continue to bring you unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme court, and public policy events in washington, d.c. and around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. c-span's history series, landmark cases season two starts monday at 9:00 p.m. eastern with a look at significant supreme court decision mccullough me verlin -- 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journalist is that it is damaging the breast. host: hout -- it is damaging the press. host: how has the coverage it changed -- changed? the pundits as a whole at first the not take donald trump seriously. he would never have won the nomination if everyone knew he was not going to be hillary clinton. -- beyond that, there were all these gloom and doom. we see that again now. there is a sense in the saystream press that some we cannot normalize donald trump's presidency. it tells you that they view him as unfit to rule. they view him as -- unhinged. mentally unbalanced, incompetent. it is interesting the range of descriptions. at the same time, this is a book that goes behind the scenes of the trump white house. i talked about how the president suffers from defiance disorder. hlm not to do something -- they tell him not to do something and he does anyway. there are times when he goes too far or distracts from his own agenda. host: you tell a story in the book about meeting donald trump. he said things you about how he views negative coverage. guest: i interviewed the now president. i first met him in the 1980's in new york. that is one of the reasons i underestimated him. what he said to meet was he cannot get over the fact that some commentators had a hatred for him. use that word. -- he used that word. at the same time, he was kind of wounded by that. wants -- he always got good media coverage when he was a businessman. he met with private anchors. he said his biggest surprise was that you guys never changed your coverage once i became president. all the major events of his presidency, the charlottesville tragedy -- he is just convinced he is not getting a fair shake. he meets privately with nbc's chuck todd because there is a way in which she -- in which she works them. host: is a donald trump is staking his presidency on nothing less than destroying the credibility of the media. the media are determined to do the same thing to him. -- it turns is now out to be good box office for major news organizations. organizations are appealing to an anti-trump audience. there is a whole section of the country who voted for this president. to them, not only do they think that their guy is being treated unfairly, but they believe the elite media look down on them. they view them condescendingly. there was one headline and the huffington post, a vote for trump was a hate crime. that kind of condescending attitude does undercut the credibility of the media. guest.oward kurtz, our he is the host on the fox news channel and the author of media madness. if you want to ask them (202)ons, you can call 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 four democrats. (202) 748-8002 four independents. host: does president trump enjoy a relationship with a media that speaks favorably about them? guest: i have some thoughts about that. he told me that fox was treating him unfairly. there are number of prominent --servative commentators people in the national review who were never in the campaign but still critical of the president. even though he was -- he is a conservative republican president, he does not enjoy a cheering squad on the right. at the same time, the president sometimes -- when he is pushing back against the media, i think he should not be hunting down an individual cable news host. sometimes he does this as a strategy to take the spotlight off of something else. it is actually good politics for him. the place very well with his most loyal supporters. this is of trust -- been happening for decades long before donald trump. he is eroding a business that i love and that i want to be perceived as fair. right now, the cool thing to do is to be against donald trump. is he going to survive? ac mentally able to handle this office? -- is he mentally able to handle this office? host: what happened to the next president after donald trump syntel it's -- what happens to the next president after donald trump's influence? guest: some of the wounds are one-sided. --are not agreeing iatever is being done now, believe is going to last far beyond donald trump's presidency. host: joe is in new york. you are on with howard kurtz. i just want to say i watch your show every sunday. you are the enemy. you have -- you are the academy -- you are the epitome. the wheat -- the reason i called is that fox has been stressing about this uranium one incident. the president has mentioned it. senator john barrasso wrote in an article of the opinion section of the wall street journal which discusses this whole thing. it would be great if you could have the senator on your show. possibly pager could bring up the article. pedro couldpossibly bring up the article. guest: i do not think there is any question as someone who has covered this campaign intensively. there was a lot of influence and attempted influence peddling. at the same time, i'm not saying none of this should be looked at. hillary clinton lost the election. some people who excessively focus on her are in part trying to deflect attention. if had about a year of investigations -- we have had about a year of investigations. we do not know where this will end up. that focus on the investigation seems not to have unearthed a whole lot. it is not a hoax. there been indictments raised recently -- most recently on the russians. i think is important to be fair in covering this investigation. at the same time, we should not be seen as hyping every incremental development. line frompendent north carolina. say,r: yes, i just want to howard you do a great job. the reason i watch fox news is that they tell the truth. watchlike a lie when you another station. i believe in fox news because they tell the truth. like hannity, i love hannity. he is so awesome. i just want to say keep it up. you do a great job. i know your heart is in the media. we look for you. we know you tell the truth. the russian media does not tell the truth. host: such as the wall street journal who said truth, but points to the opinion, is that a concern for you? viewers, hink most readers, are pretty stuff.ticated about this people, there is natural tendency to like people who view.with your world the people who love rachel on very liberal. she's a smart road scholar, if say so. too far, i it is almost tribal loyalty in this hyper-partisan media atmosphere. i just find the need with my at the nd this is true editorial page, that there are the business in of trying to be, coin a phrase, balance and other conservative, lib terian who are giving usiness of opinions. host: democrat's line, michelle, howard kurtz.h caller: yes, pedro, i don't isieve nothing that this man spouting out. klansman.and a host: michelle, since we have you uest here, why don't address a question or comment directly to him. you there?re caller: all he wants to, but for democrats hade as to sit here and listen to the dog our n party president ba obama.nt let me tell you something, new day in 2018, every black, every brown, every democrat are going out there and we're going to thfool sitting up here glorifying trump -- invite him as a guest, we don't want to insult him. you have seen media coverage of administration, did president obama get a pass from media? guest: i've never seen a president get softer treatment many willk obama did, not dispute that. he had a pretty easy first term. ougher coverage in the second term, republican congress had a lot of trouble getting things mated on d was check areas like syria. a lot of caller, people feel that way, donald polarizing president. there are people who absolutely loves the guy, tell its like it the traight shooter, like way he talks, doesn't weigh our words carefully and people think never should have been president and offended by the fact he's in office. views of the media are obviously viewed through that prism. think donald trump is a good or great president, you will not like a lot of coverage major news organizations, if you think donald trump is a terrible a fanent, you will not be of fox news coverage and like his liberal attackers. try in this book to go beyond that, stick to the facts, a lot this book, not just about the media, how the president deals with the media, his dealings with his staff, who engage in a lot of self destructive leaks. against reince banno. , steve everybody has opinions, it is healthy. host: howard kurtz, "media madness." mark, go ahead on the republican line. gentlemen.od morning, howard, i love your show. question, we never find up to info on ratings, the day of the election, cnn switched the on the coverage and it's been just bad ever since. folks to know how many have left watching cnn and moved you think thed if range will make a difference? he woman commented about she loved opinionists, i like the pinionists, too, statute numbers violated, stuff that obviously illegal, then, you they may not like what they are hearing, but at least elling you what was done wrong and who did wrong. i mean, how could anybody ignore those facts? know they don't show a lot, basically get to them and how do ignore when they show you statute violations that were done? guest: irony when you bring up the question of ratings. ratings are higher than they have been in many, many years. struggling a few short years ago, having ratings, probably highest in the history channel. fox news ratings are up. fox news remains number one in for two decades. he fact is, in prime time, taking a more skeptical, aggressive, sometimes negative to president oach trump has helped the other two, "new york times," the president calls failing "new york times," once called the evil, but he still continues to talk to the times, the hometown paper, the love-hate relationship i mentioned earlier. soaring,subskringzs are digital sup scription is up. oth sides are locked in increasingly ugly battle, trump has been a gold mine for the organizations and they present a very big fat target for him, at least with that of the country, growing portion that doesn't trust the media. donald trump have the same attitude, you talk about entertitude, how did that in the media? uest: donald trump always had intuitive feel for how to make news in the new york market, firsthand, i ed lived in new york and covered ivana.s divorce from i was the out of town reporter from the "washington post," gives me a few sound bites. donald trump knows controversy he's getting beat up, he knows and learned this in president, true as negative coverage helps this president. counter intuitive. when the president is getting beat up on his handling of just anything, immigration, for example, it means he dominates is news cycle, every story like attacking trump, defending trump, attacking trump f. trump at the fake media, term i don't use and i think he hits back at , news organization and coverage, then that extends the news cycle. talk about ourselves. that uses most of the oxygen, too, free e campaign, air time. he gave hundreds of interviews, candidates other didn't. even when they were beating up on him, he's dominating the news agenda. when you have big bully pulpit, a break,me say, i need he should go on vacation and not week. for a host: this is the russia investigation, i'm been tougher obama, look at facts, toelgs fake news. talk about twitter, how has it reporting on this president? guest: we all work 24/7, get up 6:00 in the morning, he's tweeted. i go out for a sandwich, the put out changed, he's more tweets. very effective means for him to filter and e media connect with his people. do i think and many closest dvisors, as i write in this book, believe that sometimes he goes too far, that he shouldn't giving disparaging nicknames to political opponents? scarborough, th their ory about relationship, once friendly, now very hostile and sometimes he as i t to distract, mentioned earlier. it is not something that is the kellyanne ll conway and the rest know they can't take away his phone, it is of who he is. he believes it helped him get elected. times and it down at i think that helped him. inevitably something happens, he indictment on the 13 russians this week end had to do with the president claimed vindication, but saw criticism, i've done more against russia. done, said, this was a terrible attack on our ountry and there will be retaliation, he got criticism on that and he hit back hard on twitter. host: formal press conferences, how do they compare with presidents and how much give the donald trump press? guest: far fewer than any other president. journalists tell you privately nd statistics back this up, donald trump actually provides reporters, reporters he doesn't articularly like, with more access than barack obama and maybe more access than many previous presidents because just about everyday he's stopping to take questions, answer questions by the op, stand helicopter and take questions. photographers have more access president and off the record part, chuck todd on nbc, meetings with the president, even though the president publicly criticizes him. book, the in this president starts out yelling at chuck over something he said or reported, chuck yells back, they settle down it a civil conversation. chuck of one meeting, turned to the communications director and said, we just can't other.ach host: from rochester, new york, hello dent line, carol, caller: good morning. and msnbc atch fox for hard news, i skip the opinion people. both sides tell the they just emphasize different stories that maybe or their world view philosophy because i switch from one channel to another, you about t hear anything what the other people were saying. stopped y that i watching the cable news and my much better. you,'t listen to -- i tell it makes everybody crazy. spider walked across president trump's desk, they would be on that for half an hour. host: thank you, carol, it.reciate guest: well, you know, there are people who are turned off by the coniotentious channels. polarized, it o is just overload. there are days when i may not a n on the t.v., just to get break. i understand people just kind of anting to maybe watch c-span instead. on your earlier point, it is, i i comment about this in columns on foxnews.com, media buzz program, story to president trump may get more channels and in very little on others and you flip it. toative story, maybe go wall wall, particularly in prime time, i notice a pattern here, earthquakes, "new york times" and "washington post" sually 7:30 or 8:00 at night, they put it online and cnn, and bc can go wall to wall and often having reporters and contributors to talk about it. deal with it differently. and these, my advice to people, consumer, don't stay in the bubble, if you are one political stripe or another, side is the other saying, that is how you form the than f opinions, rather eco-chamber. ost: how many are based on unnamed source? does that increase with this consistent?ion or be guest: too many and increased. as an old investigative stories cannot be reported without unnamed sources, people can lose jobs or at risk if they are telling bout wrongdoing. the word is perverted and overused in political stories, people taking anonymously, papers are supposed to have rules about that, here is classic example. john kelly, chief of staff, is under a lot of heat for the rob mess, the fired presidential aide, allegations of abuse from two ex-wives. a lot of leaks from other white house officials and other trump kelly, who i nst guess is struggling to keep his the staff. the "washington post" quoted one white house official anonymously having to put the person's name on the line, was a big fat liar, i don't think that is the kind of thing that should be said anonymously. if you want to make the case where he deviated in telling his tory and kelly did make mistakes, no question, do that. when you have one side saying or running a " "cover-up," i don't think we as political story should combrant anonymity for those shoets. host: new york, michael, go ahead. caller: hi. for the ve a question guest. for years now, since always , the f.b.i. has gone after protesters, peace, anti-war, environmentalists. i remember reading a story once, they went after and spied on the scouts and winner's groups, -- then anti-war, but they had them labeled terrorists. demonstrating that on wall street or a tree hugger march, would call terrorist organization, but i wonder, i you, why isn't anybody calling the russians terrorists? thanks.ller, caller: well, cyber terrorist is use.term i would no question this was coordinated effort, apparently with indirect blessing of the government to attack american democracy, not ith bombs or bullets, but campaign of disruption, it wasn't just a lot of posts on facebook and some fake twitter identities, the indictment week show somes russians impersonated americans, theft using entity phony social security numbers, o this was a pretty broad attack. your point about the f.b.i. and past decades, certainly and this been investigated and exposed, f.b.i. was used and misused for political purposes, f.b.i.'s role in the russian investigation is controversial, of the the worst excess past have been corrected after a exposure.lic as far as your other point, i addressed that. host: couple lines from the book to show you the media and you this before, media have been more tribal, serving s badge of personal identity, conservative and liberals, trump bashers, split into camps, willing to tolerate slightest -- version of the truth? guest: i dp through this everyday, not just about my show, iville a guests of different opinions, proand anti-trump and present and then i go on twitter and read simultaneously from the same segment. a trump hater since day one, why should we trust you? you are so ill say, it is tank for trump, not -- i'm pro good journalism, hammernt i was trying to home here, which is some people ideology,dded to their they are not interested in presentationy want in the media that supports their own view. criticism is worst you got from the president? guest: this is fascinating, i bumped into him in the white few months ago, he somehow manages, people tell him and he es what i to said, your problem, howie, you middle.down the said, mr. president, in my world, that's a compliment. refs, he told the me i was too neutral, that is my job f. that is the worst criticism, that is okay. it has been interesting to watch evolution and earlier point ideological 's opinions, it going beyond ideology, going back it reagan w. bush, didn't have a lot of sympathetic ideas when came to policy. with this president, something more personal, more visceral, he can sound ks, like the guy at the bar. a lot of people like that, he politician who chooses every syllable carefully. choose his sident words more carefully? sure. ideology is not the only prism only prism to view the coverage, what about donald trump gets under the skin of so many journalists. host: patricia from minneapolis, republican line. caller: good morning. nice to talk to you, mr. howard kurtz. hi. the lady from new york touched on what i'd like to say, one of points, please don't cut me ff, pedro, i have more than one. she mentioned how the media, she would one side wouldn't be anything, the mainstream media has become so onhand and so personal and so constant negative coverage of president trump, but other thing is they don't alk about his accomplishments, the good economy, all of the things he's actually done, avoid regulation, they ll of that and just talk so wfully about him as a person, all homonym attacks. the other thing, c-span itself, the read from all of liberal paper. "new york post," times," article after article -- host: including washington times, washington examiner and -- ervative sources, so we'll leave it there. mr. howard kurtz, take it where you want. guest: okay. there have been times, as i show in this book, where the gotten rare amounts of positive coverage, the bombing in syria, after the assad, l attack by said s applaudd that and it was something barack obama hadn't done. the first year, the president how much he got through congress, wasn't much, failed effort to repeal and replace obamacare. he passed tax cuts, number of stories said, he didn't have what youa year despite heard the last 11 months. ot major tax cut through, slashed legislation, the economy is doing well, there was grudging acknowledgment the was being more effective than most journalists were allowing. happens in moments, he gives a good cheech to congress, last year and the state of the union was a pretty speech n. our speeded up news cycle, it lasts a day or russia a half, a new investigation, let's chase this. let's go chase that, what about his hurricane, how do you handle that? so, whatever positive coverage tends to bent gets, overtaken by other events and overtaken tends to be by his own tweets and he knows he tweets drive news coverage, you see that everyday. sometimes he stepos good news inadvertently. host: what do you think about his relationship with past porn models, what do you think as far as coverage of donald trump? uest: i have the impression neither of these latest two cases have been as big stories might have been because i think it involves his private decade ago, baked into the cake, people knew they were boy.electing a choir reminds me of bill clinton after jennifer flowers in the '92 campaign. the difference, i would say, two cases now, allegations of hush being paid, in one case by the president's personal lawyer stormy ormer porn star cdaniels, he says it wasn't hush money, but hasn't explained enquirer buying running it not because of disputes. that is more recent and storyesome, not sure that has gone away. are these tabloid stories? you are going tabloid, yeah, but thing i did in 1998 when bill clinton was embroiled with and turned out to be monica lewinsky. we can't escape that. line, mike, gont ahead. howard, love your show and basically when i can't see it.i basically record i'm going to touch on a couple oints as far as trump is concerned with outlets he has to the press. basically he will talk to that is nd everybody, one thing i like about him. maybe cliche, he's a regular politician, you know, barack obama, clinton, bush, off, ll basically pulled wouldn't say anything to begin with. book, my read your question is, do you think he'll ever be liked? far i'm talking about, as as the running against biden, probably l come up or go against him. how do you feel about how people are going to perceive him in the next two to three years? guest: well, i thought once he president, because whatever people might say negatively about donald trump, anybody in public life, he can be very charming, he can turn it on. with chuck ing nice nancy cy, schumer and pelosi until recently. ut it hasn't happened and part of it is and the reason i'm not particularly optimistic about a -- or respectful relationship with the president sides have s, both strong incentives to keep this war fare up. the president will go to the is a bit maybe that of an olive branch. organizations, many of them, not all reporters t every organization, i do sometimes paint with too broad a brush, are playing or are big audience for commentary for reporting, for investigations that seem to be largely anti-trump and the foil.ent uses press as a he doesn't like a story, he attacks the press, he doesn't attacks theject, he press. it works for him more than any other president i have seen. is all about donald trump. 2019 and 2020, there are candidates runing and anomaly, how do you feel about what this president has done over the last years, versus a living human being who also has a record and that will change coverage somewhat as it always done. host: cind newindsor, democrat's line. caller: good morning. have a couple, one point i want to make. i mean, isn't it true legislation changes take two to years to have an effect on the economy and what we see? see, you know, i find that we keep making comments, you know, being in office for, you know, less than two years and the economy is doing well, isn't that from what was done in the previous administration? being in office no question, donald trump inherited relatively good economy from took obama, when he office in 2017, employment was pretty low. the same time, that has continued and despite the reason in the stock market, he dow is way up compared to when he took office. presidents get too much credit when stock market goes up and when it goes down. people talk about trump's role soaring. dow was it went down, maybe this is trump flow. forms of legislation take a couple years to have -- not tax cuts. this month tax cuts take effect and people are see nothing their paychecks. the tax was was not popular. he polls show it is getting more popular now that it seems real. a lot of people didn't think they would get it. that is for someone else, not for me. i think, sure, is it early to definitive judgment on the economy after a year and couple office?n sure. the same time, he hasn't done impede the growth that most people have felt, particularly if you own stocks bonds. host: running short on time. gorlan, from garland, texas. yes, i'm 84 years old, a cronkite walter reported news, you might not agree, you knew it was the truth. along came dan rather and this is where we are today. thank you. uest: dan rather is still active and become very anti-trump, so he's obviously more opinion mode now. there was a time when untley brinkley, walter cronkite had respect, got news from the three network news time is gone. social media, internet, news, fractured universe and that created niches for a lot more punditry, dayssis walter ite and i knew cronkite. host: how do you keep editorial report and hat you put on the air? guest: i have complete independence to put on the air what i want, ay analyze the way i want. if i make a mistake, it's on me, make mistakes and i try to keep that in mind. people this mes think and i have when i worked for other news organizations, you are following this line or that line. i'm a media critic, not popular in the business, too often i have to call out colleagues who made a mistake, sometimes they journalists tend to be thin-skinned, put it that way. when i decided to do this, i could do e only way i about to be aggressive journalism and take on my employer when necessary, true cnn, "washington post" and and true now at fox. fox overplays or underplays a talk about it and ask opinions of it. that adds to your credibility, sees you are willing to hold everyone to the same standard. it on?uzz host, when is guest: every sunday, 11 eastern, be on y said should daily, that is not happening right now. look, we don't just talk about politics, sports versy, hollywood, sexual harassment cases, very much in with a pallanced panel, try to get newsmakers on, we take it seriously and have doing it. host: how long have you been doing the show? uest: at fox now for four years, doing the show there, i did my own version at cnn, for years, "washington post" for 30 years. when i criticize mainstream of the 'm a product media, i know strengths and weaknesses. howard kurtz, author of "media madness," thank you for being our guest. to continue on with open phones for the last half-hour of the program. pro forma s in a session, which means they will do rudimen el in, rudimentary business. in, we'll go to open phones. 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. , if you 202-748-8002 want to make your thoughts known lines, choose what best represents you. site at cial media c-spanwj.g or facebook.com/c-span. to skreez in one more call if you don't mind. nampa, idaho, independent line. go ahead. dan.er: yes, this is host: go ahead real quick. uh-huh. aller: i had a question for howard on why he thought maybe with would get re-elected all the scandals going on and verything else it involves, donald trump. i'm a vietnam veteran. severely divided. dc is broke. host: thanks, caller. guest: to be clear, i didn't say be ought donald trump would re-elected. two knows, two years from now is a lifetime. underestimate 't h his be -- to get elected. donald trump could win, the media shouldn't rush to judgment. he next election is a long a off. hoe host: howard kurtz, the book "media madness." leading up to open phones, the house will come in to take issue in the pro forma session. show you a couple stories, you open phones, as well. times, laws ton regarding guns. a few states have red flag law comes to restraining orders, out of sacramento, california. laws ive states have enabling family members, guardians or police to ask jump to strip gun rights from people who show warning signs of violence. by ryan foal and he don thompson this morning n. 2014, first nia became the state to let family members ask firearms from ove a relative to appears to pose a threat, california law empowers petition for protective orders which require authorities to remove firearms to one year and more than a dozen others, including missouri w jersey and are considering bills to enable family members or police to etition the courts to take weapons away from people showing distress or al violence, that is in the washington times this morning as the of several pieces in paper this morning looking at gun-related issues. randolph, s, gary, massachusetts, democrat's line. no longer have a guest with us, are on open phones, gary, go ahead. caller: thanks for taking my call. wanted to say, peter, i think we need to have equal time, a make a ime we want to comment and we do not have the make the comment. for ten to c-span, thanks your time. i want to ask the last guest what e had that, this is we are going to -- the country, text, he said st that he was tougher on russian obama. these are the type of things we annot understand how come somebody who just say anything that doesn't ring any truth to it. is a lot of things that congress and obama had impose on russia that -- how could he say something like that? these are the type of things the people that support country, we as a need somebody that will tell the ruth and who shows how to govern and do not have conflict with the constitution. host: okay. caller: attacking the institution of the f.b.i. host: henry in bay shore, new york, independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. good morning. was calling because i didn't ote for president trump, but, you know, i do believe that he really, really been more open towards people with other opinions, other than just the people around him. i feel that he should, you know, stock in the way he ran more open towards people with other opinions, other than just the people his -- there were people who got thrown out their they voiced opinion. e said he came down the escalator and said what he said about people coming from mexico, n.f.l. said to the players, you know, called them, and now, schoolchildren look at what the president says. things that just going wrong ith the ada, american with e-sign to s act, the affect that law, so there is a people who s that support president trump need to really take a look at why they opposition to what it is that he says and what he does. host: okay. twitter, the cnn reporter collins, robert interaction with rick gates. alex is expected to plead guilty lying about f turning over e-mails to mueller's office from cnn. phones, the house coming in for pro forma session time now. der zwaan. caller: thank you very much. comment on the gun control laws states. different we have kind of real lax gun arizona.in e can carry a weapon, if it is exposed, without a permit, or out anything, a pistol whatever. but in the states, if you look at all states with strictest gun laws, like illinois, new york, they have more crime haveany of the states that laxer gun laws. -- we need mental ests on these people that are getting permits or they are carrying a gun or want to assault-type rifle that.mething like i just don't think they should laws, not they are set to where these people that mentally disabled basically, they're being sold weapons. host: okay. let's -- caller: no better than they are here. go to corey in denver, colorado, democrat's line. morning, s, good america. would just like to interject the point that as far as the president and the press corps is and all of these allegations about sexual harassment and what-not, i would like to see donald trump actually ask all of the people in the press corps that come into the briefing rooms and to what he orsten the other people have to say. i would like to see all those background checked and if there is any allegations of any impropriety, they should be banned from the white house press corps. thank you, everybody, have a good day. reporting a. today" come wednesday, the military transgender troop policy is due reported, the policy will replace rules adopted during the allowing nistration transgender troops to serve openly for the first time. procedures that gave transgender troops access to medical treatment and policy for ecruiters to accept applications from transgender volunteers for military service, denouncement officials by surprise. medical care would continue. joint chiefsof the thetaff joseph dunford said pentagon would not change policy until officially notified by the white house. oregon, ext from democrat's line. caller: hi, i would like to say don't know if republicans are smarter than democrats, if democrat, the a republicans would have probably treason, lled him for good lord this man is not following our constitution and the reason say trump is so nice to russia, everybody knows when the himican banks wouldn't loan money anymore, he went to ru olygarcs, come on, america, wake up. host: bridget in iowa, independent line. caller: hi, good morning. morning. caller: you just mentioned an and thatout california family members could petition the courts to get rid of right to bear arms. is there a law that went into you mention that law? host: i'll have to find the story and see if i can pull it the house comes in for its pro forma. why do you think it is important to note? if a person gets their guns taken away, wouldn't they in the 702, as well fisahen they are put in the courts, kind of a way? i don't know, maybe not fisa on the terrorist list? host: i don't know if the story rom the washington times will go in that deep and ask those questions. check it out at the times i believe you want, washingtontimes.com, website, if you want to find it there. patrick, in shawnee, oklahoma, republican line. good morning. i believe all these callers are oncerned for america and are great americans. let me prove my point about trump. they t to help israel, ill have capital in jerusalem, i don't think putin was happy with that, that shows me trump s sneaky, but getting things done. and that should show right putin, he'snot into into israel and us, great for america. thank you. on this notework, at 10:00, palestinian president u.n. security ess council. early reports indicate he's alternative to u.s. media negotiations with relations. that at 10:00, cufind out more if you don't have a chance to watch it, watch it at c-span.org. maryland. you near open phone. the house supposedly coming in. go ahead. thank you to c-span, thank you for taking my call. corps. marine understanding a little bit about ammunition, guns, things of that wondering, have not heard, whether or not it easier, i'm e ownership.sold gun think a lot of people have much more access to less lethal wants to don someone something horrendous, wouldn't ause as many murders as they would simply injuries. they could have all the guns hey want or could get ammunition to go hunting fthey needed to. would probably help curb all this horrendous going on.rs we have host: "wall street journal" has a look at recent budget deal out by congress, what t does for the defense budget, but it does for defense firms, as well. proposal, ing pent includes spending on buying weapons and military increase from the obama administration final plan 2017.scal the highlights from the story show that the budget for tanks arm oured vehicles up by 59% over the next two years compared 2017, benefiting companies including tank maker general eae systems which makes armored cars. up 50%, vulnerable satellite and losing access to positioning system, northrup grumman, boeing and to heed martin all stand benefit. caller: otis, from southwest detroit. i was calling, seem like when we alk about trump and people don't seem to remember things klansman, ather was a actually got arrested. have e say things seem to racial tint to it, his background, his father have racial tint to it, his background, his father gave him a million, maybe 12 million, not sure, to start his own business. his father like i love my father. i am impressed with my father. when he moved the capital to jerusalem, like in charlotte or gave respect to the jewish nazi protest, i mean nazi protesters against jewish community, is that fight between he arabics, palestinians and jewish, like he could knock off two people he came against this no love for and people don't get it when he players ut the n.f.l. nd just change the whole narrative about police and african american male interaction. so what i don't get people that don't understand that and with putin.d /* -- putin /* wasn't upset with him moving the capital. attacking israel, putin wasn't upset, that is part of his team. randy, brictow, oklahoma, republican line. morning, thanks for taking my call. when president trump was felt whole new the last eightn, years, it just, i don't even our country anymore. i'm not going into the you try to ut when ask politicians about different questions like immigration and rest of it, they always say, that, s more to it than well, that is politician speak. a re trump, he's just not politician. he's just a regular person, you know. think that politicians have their own way of speaking and ometimes they talk out both sides of their mouth. thank you very much. host: "wall street journal" country s how another handles the topic of tax cuts. this is germany. headline from tom fairless aying shies away from tax cut reporting germany next government is expected to pose surplus of 62 billion american between now and to the financial new try calculations the government, if approved the alliance will be no acceptance, 177-page policy platform includes one small tax cut billion over four years and limited to low earners euros on child care, infrastructure and welfare germany corporate tax fallen to 30%, far from the 55% the late 1990s, that level will be highest among the group major economies, putting german companies at disadvantage in international markets. the of that available at "wall street journal." annnhomedale. homdale, on the independent line. caller: yes, hi, thank you so much. you do awesome job. thank you. to nted to point attention people pointing out trump as and, you know, i don't agree with his policies treatment of the situation going on in puerto rico. his not even mentioned in state of the union address. and it is totally shameful, like has been brushed under the carpet and we have many military there and, you right to t have the vote. host: david in springfield, vermont. line.ndent caller: good morning, c-span, thank you for your service. want to leave a little comment. mentioned palestinian president going to speak before u.n. today. host: right, at 10:00, on this network. caller: unless he's going to say will say inian state israel doesn't have the right to hamas,will ex-communicate and giving money against parks is and stop naming and recreational area and streets after terrorists and teaching their kids to kill israelis, precursor to any the table.n at until they do that, until to contribute to peace in the middle east. nuclear deal topic of lawrence norman, particularly to europe is looking elementof the deal. -- also key icials player in negotiating the deal. focus of discussions was yemen according to estern and iranian officials, talks will likely turn to syria, scene of escalating tension between iran and israel, governments which have strongly supported iranian nuclear agreement pledged to to address shington nonnuclear concern such as iran regional ogram and activities, this should happen separate from discussion on the renegotiate won't the 2015 deal. betty, from illinois, democrat's line. caller: thanks, good morning. host: good morning. aller: we all know there are two trumps, we have the teleprompter trump and the real trump. teleprompter trump is the he is reading what they have wrote for him to say and the real trump is the trump that advise the country. thank you, pedro. host: harvey, illinois, joanne next, republican line. judgeanne, good morning. caller: yes, i'm on the democrat line, thank you for c-span and i to say to donald trump supporters, to his face, took an oath to protect and defend the american on and the -- when he's -- won't congress the sanctions has passed and put them on russia. derelict of duty. host: okay. illinois b. 10 minutes left in open phones. t any time the house will come into the pro forma session. the house is out, will come in and is go ary prakt through the formal process of gavelling in and gavelling out. c-span, if the house goes to gavel-in and gavel-out we are there covering, that is where we're at f. they come in, we gallon to this the course of open phones. you are invited to participate have. minutes we do 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. 202-748-8002 for independents. the "washington post" this orning takes a look at how states are looking to treat those who receive healthcare, to pay more in some indiana, began asking destitute to pay premium for medicaid services in 2015 as with the obama administration to expand the program, but more recent moves kentucky, maine, and wisconsin, seeking to ramp up include atients do not goal of expanding the 53-year-old program. last month the trump kentuckyation approved petition to raise premiums and mpose work requirement for medicaid. earlier this month administration approved the plan o raise premiums for poor people who smoke tobacco. major shift. largely by funded federal dollars, but administered by the state. in s hear from glenda california, independent line. caller: yes, i'd like to know no one has brought up the fact that the kid that killed 17 people with an ak, the people knew he had it and supposedly locked it up. why would anybody of his age, oing to high school, need an ak? there is something wrong there. and t it investigated donald trump is not taking care job.is he is selling the american down the road. host: ian is next up, oceanside, york. go ahead. caller: good morning. i wanted to touch off on what doing from everything, from making everybody meet 2% tpp, from moving from tel aviv, we hit russia and syria, anybody thinks donald trump a on russian's side, i have bridge in brooklyn i will sell to you cheap. ar-15, semiautomatic rifle, no such thing as assault weapon. battery, if i hit you with my fist, if i take a with a it is assault bic pen there is no such thing as assault arrive elt, if we sent out boys to war with ar-15, we would be in trouble. rifles are nothing more than putting the stock on and aking it look something, what looks like military. got nothing to do with the military. people should learn what they they lking about before open their mouth. okay. host: in new york, time gives highlight of the used by the school shooter. here is what they know about the gun. events of last week. time magazinenow, says four things to know what is the ar-15. decades, taple for former green beret, saying used in the when vaem slaem war song, one son of a gun of a gun. from the song, she's hot and mean, it goes from there. according to the national sports foundation, ar does not stand for automatic or stands for e, armalight, the company that the 1950s and failed legislation that would semiautomatic gun dids not clarify the ar-15 as an weapon. time magazine. from virginia, democrat's line, don. caller: thanks for taking my call. i want to speak on the fact of me how n, it behooves they can ignore all the women that have accused trump, but rug, weep this under the keeping it quiet. they want to talk about doug everybody else, they won't talk about the issue with trump. these weapons aren't assault weapons, we call them in the weapons, they are used strictly to kill. hello. is next.et memphis, tennessee, republican line. janet from memphis? caller: yes. host: you're on, go ahead. is our country going to start living under constitutional laws again, instead of corporation laws? constitution has been cut off and we haven't been living by it. host: give an example. try r: like every time we to challenge anything we're not stand by it and we can't challenge the government on anything. our government is overstepping boundaries, as far as land rights go, for example, what nevada. in host: what do you mean by that? caller: they were -- where they leroy finnegan , bundy's in jaile because the cows were on the land. read the constitution. the blm group is bureau of land getting outthey are of control, burning people's land, trying to get them off of it. ridiculous. host: fred is from west arrison, new york, republican line. go ahead. caller: yes, hi, thanks for taking my call. to n't think the solution the shootings is banning rifles, i have no problem with banning them. can still go in with a handgun and under the second never stop ou will people having loaded handguns. why are young people doing these things, why they grow up like this, why they are not being illness at anntal earlier age. i think in every school, every design one if you entrance to the school, retired ilitary vet, we know a lot of retired military vets can't get jobs, retired military vet police officer at the front gate and in order for someone to come into the school, including the shooter, there is one earntrance, an armed guard, military vet. or the person then has to go through two bullet-proof glass they get entrance to the children, that would stop a lot of shootings. why these look at people are doing the shootings. the profile appears to be young males, mostly white males, okay, and i'm a white male, why are things, seem toe and ven drugs for autistic other illnesses, which may be fine, i think we have to look at doing this, maybe watching too many crazy movies, maybe more treatment for these people. i think that the solution is not just doing with the rifles, with handguns under the second amendment. get more military veterans jobs, get more military people jobs, maybe help rebuild chools and redesign the schools. people from jail are not all bad people, maybe help those people, well. suggestions, thank you. host: independent line, don, springlake, michigan. caller: hello, how are you doing today? taking my call. host: well, thank you. aller: a couple things here regarding the presidency and stuff. one, i worked in manufacturing i wasn't a real nafta fan. president give our the benefit of a doubt, but everybody he selected to be in he cabinet was from wall street, rich people, big business. then the other thing i would had my heart broken by people that i've respected and way back to g mcguire,lane, and mark deny, armstrong, deny, deny, facts come out, heart broken. reality ump being a star, t.v. guide could just be another one of them guys, no, it wasn't me and find out he had something to go. donald trump being a reality star on tv. me, and we find he had something to go. kind of hoped he was going to do some things. hope he can still turn it around. stephen from hartsdale new york. i want to thank you for what you do and i always find it interesting to listen to my fellow americans. i see a lot of emotions are at play. an opportunity to see how the system works. to see how on the local level, thatuld tax legislation would help to interpret supreme court law and constitutional law, such as gun violence. i think it is worthwhile and i urge everybody to watch this show. thank you for the promotion and giving it the props it deserves. we take a look at major supreme court cases have experts on board to talk about the cases themselves, not only as a played out during the court proceedings the how is it -- it plays out in everyday life. that is our landmark series set to begin and if you want to find out more information, go to our website. we have not only our segments on the previous cases looked at, -- comings coming not up. joseph from kentucky, last call. republican line. how thei cannot believe american people are. they turned the tv off and do a little history, research history about their own country. we have been under military jurisdiction since march 1929 and they never canceled it. --ple ought to find out listen to the last speech jfk headbefore they blew his off. he talked about secret societies, but nobody wants to mention that. that is what people need to look at. whenever you see american flags behind somebody, and has those old ridges behind it, that is a military flag. enemy -- --idered enemies of the state. host: last call for this program as well and another addition comes her way at 7:00 tomorrow. we will take you to that end begin. -- and begin. >> and in the house today, expecting a session that was supposed to start 30 minutes ago. no legislative access in the house today. is scheduledon friday and back for legislative work monday. take you over to the united's -- united nations'security council, where the palestinian mahmoud abbas will speak. u.s. mediated the negotiation with israel. the security council we have seen the u.n. ambassador, nikki haley and alongside her, jared kushner. the times reports, saudi arabia is a key to achieving an elusive peace agreement, according to a key is really member. thepeace between israel and palestinian needs help. just waiting for this to begin and we will take you back to the house if they come back. [no dialogue] >> live here today on c-span, inside the u.n. in new york city. the security council. speakingbbas will be shortly. he is going to address them for the first time in a decade. mahmoud abbas is expected to call for multiple international powers to facilitate peace negotiations and criticized the u.s. recognition of jerusalem as israel's capital. a new phase in the struggle has started and they seek to protect bio looking for support. -- by looking for support. also to discuss the influence of politics at 4:30 eastern. the white house press secretary sarah sanders and former -- the former white house press secretary. will have that live at 7:00 p.m. eastern. tonight on c-span, they will looking atw orleans campaign finance, the electoral college. all that today and throughout the evening on c-span. [no dialogue] [no dialogue]

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