i'm wolf blitzer, and you're in "the situation room." information is coming in from across the south on the troubling and very violent history of the gunman who opened fire on an audience inside a lafayette, louisiana movie theater. and wounded nine other people than shot and killed himself as police rushed to stop him. their quick response apparently foiled his elaborate getaway plan. now the unfolding investigation is revealing houser's moves from georgia to alabama, ultimately to louisiana. his treatment for mental health problems his antigovernment ranting, and domestic abuse allegations. as we await a news briefs by police we'll be joined by u.s. senator joe manchin. he helped spearhead an aefrt to reform and expand background checks. our reporters and analysts are working their sources, but let's begin with our national correspondent ryan nobel ryan? >> reporter: wolf this theater behind me remains a crime scene. investigators have been in and out all day long as they try to figure out what happened here last night. a gunman opens fires in a movie theater. >> standing up went straight down and like the light from the end of his gun, almost like a flash. >> reporter: it was 20 minutes into the showing of the comedy "train wreck" at the grand 16 theater. an alarm was quickly triggered, chaos ensued. >> there was blood everywhere. that's when we realized what was going on. so we ran. >> reporter: 21 mayci breaux and 33-year-old jillian johnson were shot dead nine others injured, one critically. the shooter, 59-year-old john russel houser fired off at least 15 rounds before killing himself. authorities believe that was not his plan. he intended to escape. >> within 60 seconds or less we had four officers who made entry into the theater to engage. we feel that when he spotted those officers he retreated back into the theater. that's when he self-inflicted. >> reporter: officials say one 40-caliber handgun was recovered and they found wigs and other disguises in his hotel room. a profile is developing. >> as best we can tell mr. houser lived -- >> he was denied a concealed carry permit in 2006 after. he was treated for mental health issues more than once. >> we're in the middle of a neighborhood in a movie theater. why did he come here? we don't know. >> reporter: as state and federal officials gather evident, friends and family of statistic victims pray for the slain and injured. >> most of them were extremity wounds. one patient had a torso wound. >> reporter: all this bloodshed and sorrow as james holmes sell the penalty for the ramp an which left 12 people dead and 70 wounded. mower now on the attempted getaway, he actually left the keys on the tire of the vehicle, as he left the theater, he spotted police. that's when he stop reloaded went back inside and shot and killed himself. wolf? >> ryan thanks very much. ryan ryan nobles reporting, they're uncovers his very troubled past. miguel marquez has more on this part of the story. what else are you learning? >> reporter: terribly 2rub8d wolf. 2008 may be the best we have into his mental state. his own family took out a protective order and ask the judge to involuntary commit him because of mental instability, saying he suffered from anything from manic depression to possibly bepolar disorder. the judge granted that request by the family. this is a man who clearly grew apart from his family over the years. his brother spoke to cnn just a short time ago. here's what he had to say. >> we haven't been close for years. i'm not sure we were just separated from the family and just different emotional depression issues psychological problems, that type of thing. >> probably about a month ago. >> reporter: and what was that contact? >> he just needed money to keep living surviving, and so we gave him some and that was the last we heard of him. he hadn't heard from him ten years prior to that and haven't heard from him since. we didn't know where he was or know anything about him. we didn't have any contact except that. >> reporter: he was evicted from his home last year. he was living in a motel 6. in 2006 he applied for a permit to carry a concealed weapon. that was denied because of an arrest on arson they found on his report and also a report of domestic violence. wolf? >> when did his problems begin? >> we know that one of the charges of arson goes all the way back to 199, but really it was 2009 2000-2001s 2001. convicted several times of selling alcohol to minors. remist muslims, because they stand up for their religion in his mind also expressing great hatred for liberals on his facebook one of the few things he liked on his facebook page was i hate liberals a group on that social media site. he also just had a great distrust and hatred of not only the government, but of gays expressing great concern that white america was falling apart. one thing you see is the concern that the country is falling apart, and he believed that it was going to become what he called a mad max situation very soon. >> yeah we also know from a neighbor in a he had a confederate flag on his lawn while living in georgia. thanks very much, miguel marquez reporting. the shootings happened only hours after president obama called his inable to reform gun laws his greatest frustration. he was briefed on the shootings, as he traveled to nairobi, kenya. he arrived there just a few hours ago. jim acosta is joining us live. jim, the president almost eerily was speaking out about gun in that interview just before what occurred in louisiana. >> reporter: that's right, wolf the president admitting this will likely we one of those items of unfinished business when he leaves office in 2017. as you said president obama has referred to kenya, designed in part an opportunity to get in touch with his rites, but the president will almost certainly face questions about gun violence in the u.s. once again as this movie theater mass shooting in louisiana has forced this issue back into the president's lap even before he touched down in kenya, as you said the president was briefed on the situation in louisiana b. his adviser lisa monaco. the president to be honest has abandoned gun control, he abandoned the issue after efforts failed in congress but as you said just before this latest rampage happened the third mass shooting in less than two months the president talked about this as being his greatest frustration in an interview with the bbc. here's what he had to say. >> the run area where i feel that i've been most frustrated and most stymied, it is the fact that the united states of america is the one advanced nation on earth in which we do not have sufficient common sense, gun safety laws even in the face of repeated mass killings and you know, if you look at the number of americans killed since 9/11 by terrorism, it's less than 100. if you look at the number that have been killed by gun violence it's in the tens of thousands. but the white house has all but determined new gun control measures will not happen during his remaining time in office. one official said they understand the accomplice cal realities. that means the votes are simply not there. >> jim acosta thanks very much. joining us in "the situation room", joe manchin in west virginia. he co-sponsored a proposal to try to tighten up the requirements but was blocked by a filibuster. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> you agree with the president? >> the thing that i have said. i know and i hunt and shoot with an awful lot of my friends. they're law-abiding gun owner. there's not a gun owner that wishes that a mentally impaired person or mentally sick person would be able to get a gun. that's all we try to do. we just try to say that person if they went to someone who didn't know them at a gun show or on the interknecht they wouldn't be able to do it. there's a loophole. >> so what's the problem? >> the problem is we can't get enough votes from our friends and colleagues on the republican side because people are believing it's invading on your second amendment rights. no one defense the second amendment rights more than i do but the bottom line is you have ton a responsible gun owner. i don't want someone who is mentally impaired who had a record or is a criminal to be able to go to a gun show and go to somebody on the table and say i want to buy that gun, nobody asks questions, or on the internet nobody asks questions. that's all we were trying to do. until we get our friends on the other side of the aisle to help us we don't have the votes to do it. >> so let's say between now and the time the president leaves office -- >> i think mental illness is one we could, most of these people are mentally ill. but we have to make sures the records are turned over. we have hipaa rules, a lot of things stand in our way we have to get past these barriers for the sake of this society. >> what's the main art from the other side for example, the nra supporters who didn't like what you were trying to do? >> i went all over the state of west virginia. i talked to my friends and they said this is a good by joe. i said i know it is. why wouldn't you support it? they just don't trust government. they don't think they would stop they they would take more of their rights and liberties. this treated a law-abiding gun owner with the respect they should be treated. we've got a lot of rules overturned but on the other hand we had to be responsible. all the law-abiden gun owners i know are response but they don't trust government. >> will you make another push? >> if we can get our friends on the republican side. i need 13 14 15 votes on that side. >> to break the filibuster? >> yeah if every democrat you know, and we have a few of our friends off democrat side who had difficulties. we're trying to find the most reasonable responsible approach that doesn't infringe and makes all the sense in the world and show we can govern will. did it hurt you politically? >> most certainly the question was asked of me are you sorry you did it? >> no. i have knowledge the against. if i'm not going to do it who is? >> for me saying o. i wish i hadn't -- why would they send me here we did not infringe on anybody's rights. we gave them more of their rights that had been taken away over time. well more liberal democrats who would never support any type of gun support or gun reform supporting this. would it ever happen again? i don't node. i went back and into the bowels if you will explaining the bill showing the bill and finally gave me the reasoning. i'm just opposed to government intervention. senator, we have much more to discuss if you can stick around. with senator joe manchin of west virginia. much more right after this. 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a nato ally finally from your perspective of the u.s. doing what the u.s. has long wanted. >> it's the only way to defeat terrorism. we can't do it by putting our boots on the ground and fighting their fight for them. i've said that from day one. if military might or money would change that part of the world, we would have done it after 12 13 years. not until they decide they want to defend their homeland their families and thankfully turkey is now engaging the saudis have to engage. if we can get the sunnis fighting maybe we have a chance. we can support, but we can't take the lead. >> the iraqi military i should say, are they doing a better job right now? a year ago when mosul, the second largest city in iraq a few isis guys come in the iraqis run away leave a lot of equipment behind. same thing happens in fallujah ramadi places like that are the iraqi military getting ready to do the right thing? i continue to ask this question basically are we able to put one iraq back together with them living together under one government? or is it time we rethink that position? to rethink the position you will have three did i separate with a common cause, but basically the sunnis is having a reason to fight. the shiites we know will fight and we know the kurds will. they're thinking if i'm going to fight and turn it back over to a shiite-controlled baghdad, i'm just in as bad a shape as i was. what else should the u.s. be doing? >> the bottom line is they know we can and will support. we could lead this fight, and they can't wait for us to take the fight on for them. now with the whole thing on syria, i've always had concerns about syria, trying to find the people that we could train up spending $500 million. i think we found a total of 54. they were looking for thousands. i don't believe that's going to work. i've talked to the different people from those regions, and they've all said when american troops come and they're on the ground they use that as recruiting tools against us al qaeda and isis and all them. the fbi director james comey told me this week from his perspective, the fbi director the greatest terror threat to the u.s. homeland right now is isis and no longer al qaeda. you agree with him on that? >> i would agree that isis has more threat to us at this point in time because of their determination to bring their type of war fare to america through the different people they radicalize as we're seeing it happening. we've got to be on guard about that. we have to make sure or borders are tight. i trust the work we're doing right now and trust the people basically that we can shut this down but we have to be very careful and isis is -- >> what are you doing to make sure that u.s. recruiting offices in west virginia are safe. i ask the question because of what happened in shatt nothinga five military personnel were brutally killed? >> i'm concerned about that. just to give you an example. our senate offices, our congressional offices, we have certain protocol. we have to have shatterproof windows in, they could just walk directly into the office area we have to do -- i've asked should we not at least be arming the people that are working there and recruiting? they're looking into that. they want to make sure they do the proper procedure, but i don't want copycats to continue and then we say we should have done this a long time ago. different branches of the military have different protocol. to me it's a no-brainer. they should have the arms there for their protection and we know they're at a threat. >> thank for coming in. >> thanks for having me. i notice you'll have hearings on this. >> yes, we will. a bombshell announcement. international investigation of al qaeda recruiting just turned up a pair of ex-inmates who have been released from the u.s. naval detention center at gaun tan more bay in cuba. later, explosive allegations about hillary clinton's e-mails. what will they mean for her 2016 presidential campaign? 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>> yes, i have for several years. back when he had only been in prison about five or six years when we came into office with the clinton administration. i was asked if he should be released and i said no because almost all spies serve sentences longer than that but if you look at spies who have spied for friendly countries, such as let's say taiwanese americans, greek americans filipino americans, who spied for those countries, they say in prison usually about seven or eight years. the only people who stay as long as 30 years or so the way pollard has, is soviet spies who have gotten people killed people like ames and hansen. so i don't know why pollard was kept so long by comparison to other spies of his general category but i thought it was unfair beginning about 25 years ago. the argument you heard when you suggested publicly he should be released from your former colleagues? >> well they just said what he did was serious and you can't release him, but what a number of these other filipino american and greek americans spies stole was important. what pollard stole was something, as long as it stayed in israeli hands, was not particularly a problem for the united states. what i think they were worried about at the time back in the '80s is israel's intelligence service might be penetrated and the soviets or somebody like that may have been able to get ahold of the material. why they kept him 30 years instead of 10 let's say, i've never had anybody give me a reasonable argument on that. all right. james woolsey, jim woolsey, thanks very much for joining us. let's get more on the breaking news involves the former israeli spy jonathan jay pal lard our paul cr. ickshank is joining us and bob bahr as will as phil mudd s it's time i guess, if the parole board says 30 years is enough. what do you say? >> if the pa parol board says he's done his time that said in my generation this guy is pond scum. i don't care who he stole for, the courts convicted him, they convicted him for decades of time. i did the oath in the cia auditorium that said you don't spy for anybody. i respect the former director i'm not interested in arguments about who he spied for. he violated the oath we were told not to violate. he ought to rot. if he's done that's fine. >> bob, what do you think? >> i think 30 years is a long time as director woolsey said he didn't get anyone killed not like hansen or ames. he did limited damage. i think 30 years is enough. if the parole board says he can go let him go. paul i want to talk about two former detainees at the u.s. naval base at guantanamo bay in cuba the detention center they released to belgium. now they have just been arrested. tell us about what's going on. >> well that's right, they were arrested in belgium in a counterterrorism operation near antwerp early thursday morning. the belgian officials tell me they were part of a network recruiting for al qaeda in syria. they moved in when these men were about to conduct an armed burglary of a residence in order to raise funds for these efforts. they were released from guantanamo around 2005 obviously during the bush administration years. one of nim spent time in afc, was part of the broad are al qaeda setup before being detained in pakistan ant sent to guantanamo. phil mud, what do you think? this level of recidivism as has been called prisoner released they go back and commit terror acts. >> i would sigh level of recidivism is high. the significant here is pretty straightforward. you have two guys who would be considered in mob terms made men. they're trusted not only by the sh given the flow of foreign fighters into places like syria and iraq the damage could have been significant. we're talking about thousands of people from going from europe into syria. these guys will have contacts going back years, bob bahr the president would like to shut down gitmo once and for all. i assume he'd like to see thor prisoners sent back to other countries, whether their own countries or other countries ready to take them. what do you think about all of this? >> well, wolf they guys don't surprise me as phil said they're going back tots ranks. when you put the fish back in the pond they usually do. if they're going to syria and iraq and dying there, i don't particularly care. it's the ones let out of guantanamo that are organizing attacks that concern me. that probably will happen. but right now i think we have to close guantanamo either try these people or let them go and there will be a certain amount of losses in the middle of this but there's nothing we can do. one of they former prisoners, detainees, one algerian the other moroccan. what were they actually plotting to do? 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>> that's right. and there are really two big issues that could be a problem here for hillary clinton. one is that classified information sounds like a clearly defined category. but it's not. what is and is not classified is often very much a judgment call. and she could be at the mercy of people who are after the fact determining what's classified. the other issue is that once a criminal investigation is open if one does open you never know where it's going to lead. she could just ask her husband who learned that an investigation of an arkansas land deal turned into the monica lewinski investigation. so if there's a criminal investigation, that would be a very bad thing. >> because if there's a criminal investigation, as we remember during the '90s when bill clinton was president of the united states i remember when hillary clinton had to show up and testify before a grand jury. of we going to potentially see her forced to testify before a grand jury if there's a criminal investigation of the classified information on those e-mails? >> well if there is such an investigation, that's entirely possible. but i think it's important not to jump the gun yet. there is no criminal investigation as far as we know. there may never be one. but just the issues swirling about and a justice department that might want to bend over backwards to say, we're not protecting hillary clinton, it's a situation ripe with political peril, probably not legal peril, but for someone running for president political peril's a big deal. >> let talk about political peril. how could this impact her race to become president of the united states? >> let's look at how it is already impacting her race for president. two ways. one, hillary clinton's just being swamped on a day like this that she wanted to have her economic agenda out there, her reforms for corporate america, and all the news coverages about the e-mail controversy. so that will happen every time another shoe drops in the e-mail story. let's look at her poll numbers. we've seen her take a hit when it comes to looking at her favorables versus unfavorables. she's seen more unfavorably than favorably in key battleground states. if you look at honest and trustworthiness she's seen as not trust worthy by larger majorities than have an unfavorable opinion. this kind of story feeds that narrative, that there's something that she's hiding and now looking forward you have to know state department's going to release batches of these e-mails and every time a new batch comes out she has to answer questions. >> if there is something here ron bronstein, you've covered politics for a long time. if they sense she's vulnerable -- i'm not talking about republicans, i'm talking about democrats -- could there be other democrats who might decide to challenge her for the democratic presidential nomination specifically the vice president of the united states, joe biden, or maybe senator elizabeth warren if they sense she could be in trouble? >> well the problem with hanging your hat on this is that we're not going to have a definitive answer in all likelihood for quite some time on whether there is in fact any legal vulnerability. like you, i have covered clinton controversies and scandal and scandalettes for two decades. this may or may not follow that pattern but the historic pattern really has been two central outcomes. one when is you get to the end of the line the picture is murky. george bundy said the color of truth is gray. he probably had the clintons in anticipation. because many many of these stories end with a set of facts that leave those who are skeptical to begin with convinced they are unethical that leaves their supporters convinced they've been the victim of trumped-up charges, leaves many people in the middle confused. the other thing i think is true is ethics and honesty is going to be a headwind but probably not an insurmountable one for hillary clinton. it is better for a politician to be trusted than not but the fact when is bill clinton was re-elected in 1996 as i said before, on that day in the exit poll a majority of people said he was not honest and trustworthy, yet he was convincingly re-electedry i think the bigger question for hillary clinton in the long run is can she establish empathy and connection with voters? 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