republican on the house foreign affairs committee, congressman darrell issa. our correspondents and analysts standing by as we cover all the news breaking right now. first to our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. >> the president talked at the pentagon after he came out of that briefing with top wartime commanders. he talked about the fact as you said that the fight against isis will take a long time. and he repeated several times that it is going to take more than just the u.s. military that there will have to be partners on the ground, local forces in iraq and syria to make all of this work. that the u.s. can't take responsibility for the success on its own. and he also pinpointed exactly what he expects to see happening in syria. have a listen to what he had to say. >> indeed we're intensifying our efforts against isil's base in syria. our air strikes will continue to target the oil and gas facilities that fund so much of their operations. we're going after the isil leadership and infrastructure in syria. >> so if they're going to go after the isil leadership and infrastructure in syria, how do you do that just from the air with no u.s. troops on the ground? the u.s. is intensifying its efforts to work with kurdish forces on the ground and stepping up its own air reconnaissance those flights overhead looking and searching out any isis targets they can find. >> barbara, what is the goal behind this current raqqa campaign? >> it's really interesting. on july 4th alone, the u.s. conducting 18 air strikes in raqqa, destroying 16 bridges controlled by isis. raqqa, of course the capital, the self-declared capital of isis. what they're trying to do one can probably fairly assume is strike as much as they can in raqqa and get that isis leadership moving around. if isis has to reposition its troops its weapons, its top leaders, its command and control, if they have to move around to get away from u.s. air strikes, that's the kind of movement that those u.s. reconnaissance planes overhead can see, the kind of targets they may be able to pick out in the coming days. but all of this again, being done in conjunction with those kurdish forces on the ground which are now just less than 50 miles from raqqa's northern edges. >> barbara starr, thank you very much. president obama says the u.s.-led coalition is going after the "heart of isis." including its self-proclaimed capital in syria. for more on this let's bring in our chief national security correspondent jim chute co. explain to us isis' hold how important is raqqa? >> it's the capital of the caliphate which spans syria and iraq. mosul, the stronghold inside iraq but raqqa the capital of the entire caliphate. the ypd, syrian kurds in opposition have been putting pressure on that isis stronghold from the north and east. as they've gotten closer this has given the possibility of more targets to the u.s.-led coalition. that's what we're seeing with air strikes. ypg took back a border town that's now contested. but in addition to getting closer they're taking back some of these key towns particularly along the border. why is that important? that's where they get their fighters isis gets their fighters many from overseas. it's also where they get a hot of their weapons. >> we heard from the president today. bring us up to speed what the current u.s. strategy is. >> the strategy right now has been to expand the u.s. footprint with these lily pads as they call them. u.s. bases outside of the strongholds of ear bill kurdish areas in the north and baghdad here. you have two lily pads the newest one here, al assad, u.s. advisers training in anbar province training iraqi forces, also more and more the sunni tribes. this is key, get the sunnis in this battle so it's not a shiite-dominated battle make it a national battle rather than a tribal battle. there's talk of expanding to here between baghdad and tikrit. another key city. and here between mosul and kirkuk. most sell really the prize, that is the stronghold for isis inside iraq. we were talking about a mosul offensive in the spring of this year that's pushed back to the fall first, now really pushed back to next year because iraqi forces haven't shown the ability to take back territory, even of more minor towns, let alone an isis stronghold inside iraq. >> hard to think that a year ago, president obama was calling isis the jv team. tonight, a frantic final push is under way to reach a historic agreement aimed at preventing iran from developing nuclear weapons. with hours to go before the deadline there are new warnings about the possibility of failure and new warnings about the dangers if a deal is struck. let's go to our global affairs correspondent alize, they have a lot of work ahead of them. >> and it's crunch time. tuesday's deadline looming, there are major differences on key issues like iran's past nuclear weapons program and the lifting of sanctions. with time running out, the u.s. is warning years of negotiations could fail at the 11th hour. with the clock ticking down towards tuesday's deadline world powers and iran, together for the first time in vienna put their cards on the table. but the white house warned nothing is certain, and the deadline could slip. >> i wouldn't set any expectations at this point. i would say that it's certainly possible. >> reporter: secretary of state john kerry is hedging his bets. >> at this point, this negotiation could go either way. if hard choices get made in the next couple of days and made quickly, we could get an agreement this week. but if they are not made we will not. >> reporter: in a youtube message, iran's foreign minister says a deal has never been so close. but he said the ball was in the court of the u.s. and its partners. >> they still need to make a critical and historic choice. agreement or coercion. >> reporter: now a new wrinkle. iran wants to end a u.n. arms embargo once a deal is reached. negotiators are working around the clock. mindful that the deal must reach congress by thursday. but a warning from capitol hill -- don't rush. >> it's amazing to me that as we come to the end of this deal the biggest issue of concern to these countries right now is that congress would only have 30 days not 60 days to review the deal. make sure these last remaining red lines that haven't been crossed, they've crossed so many do not get crossed. >> reporter: in israel today, prime minister netanyahu warned a similar agreement helped north korea go nuclear. the talks, he said are not a breakthrough, but a breakdown. >> every day, more concessions are made. every day, the deal becomes worse and worse. better no deal than this very bad deal. >> all sides seem to be suggesting they will likely work past tuesday's deadline. but it's far from clear there will even be a deal this week. secretary kerry's warning there will not be an agreement at any price, he will walk away if the deal does not meet u.s. standards. iranian officials say they too are prepared to go home empty-handed if their red lines are not met. a nuclear game of chicken going on right now. >> alize lab bot, thank you very much. let's discuss the iran nuclear talks and more with a leading republican on the house foreign affairs committee, congressman darrell issa of california. congressman, nice to have you on with us. as we heard from elise, she's reporting the deadline for a deal with iran is becoming less and less firm. in your view is it time for the u.s. to walk away? >> i don't think it's time to walk away. it's time to at least make sure that we don't give any greater concessions than the president told congress he was going to get. very clearly this is a deal that may have difficulty getting approved even if the president got everything that he said he was going to get. if he gives further concessions, it won't be the time the 30 days versus 60 days congress has to respond, it will be the deal itself that kills any kind of a resolution. >> are you concerned that concessions are being made just so that the deal will get done just so that they can end these negotiations? >> you know in the beginning of a presidency their legacy isn't what people are thinking about. they're thinking about making a difference. at the end of a presidency often they're thinking about legacy. and that does concern me. we don't need the legacy to look good as the president leaves office and end up like north korea. i think when bebe netanyahu likened this to north korea he did so accurately. we never made north korea fully abandon its nuclear ambitions, as a result it became essentially the ninth country to have nuclear capability. and the delivery capability to threaten its neighbors. >> as we heard elyseesise say, this can be a game of chicken going on. are they the ones holding the power in these negotiations? >> pamela i think they're in the driver's seat and i think they know it. they are calling the shots on the ground in iraq. they have the relationship with the iraqi government that we're supporting over the sunni and kurd minorities. they recently returned jets back to iraq as a show of good faith. it had been in -- russian-made jets that had been there a long time and the iraqis are using those. they obviously have a relationship with both assad and hezbollah. as we speak, those forces are on the ground being supported in syria. sometimes fighting in a direction we'd like sometimes very much fighting in a direction that simply is killing off the so-called free syrian army. continuing to make advances real advances in solidifying this caliphate. >> congressman issa stay with us we have a lot more to discuss. more of our interview ahead after this break. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla apremilast. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months. and otezla's prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. side effects may include diarrhea nausea, upper respiratory tract infection, and headache. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ask your doctor about otezla today. otezla. show more of you. we're back with congressman darrell issa. a top republican the house foreign affairs committee. congressman, stand by. we are getting a rare look inside new efforts to fix troubling problems within the secret service. our cnn white house correspondent jim acosta is in the training facility outside of washington. jim, you interviewed joe clancy the director of the united states secret service. what did he tell you about changes that they plan to make? >> pam, secret service director joe clancy was adamant to us telling cnn there bill never again be another fence-jumping intruder who gets inside the white house. we talked to clancy at the training facility for the secret service in maryland just outside the nation's capital about some of the recent embarrassing episodes for his agency and what he's doing about it. he told us he's focusing on training but he also pointed to changes made at the white house, including the white house fence. those new spikes attached to the top of the fence to thwart jumpers. the director conceded in that interview it's not a perfect solution. >> spikes were installed along the white house fence last week. are those spikes going to be a deterrent, do you think? >> we're hoping it will give us some time to react. a little more time. it won't stop every jumper. >> one of the things i say to myself it too is low. >> yes. >> almost anybody could jump that fence. >> yes. >> do you feel the same way? >> i do. we're working very closely with our partners the national park service, the fine arts commission and others to look at a long-term solution. >> clancy said he's focused on some of the modern dangers facing the bhouls. his agents are training with isis threats in mind. we asked about the drone incident that occurred earlier this year when a drone flew over the white house grounds. clancy did not want to go into specifics in terms of what they're trying to do to prevent that type of thing from occurring but he did say the agency is working with what he called new technology to deal with that issue. >> and also jim, we see in this video you actually witnessed secret service drills. tell us about them. >> that's right. i didn't go through all the drills but we did get to witness some of the drills that they have here at the train facility for the secret service. one of those is very important to the mission of protecting the white house from jumpers. we saw those k-9 squads in action the belgian dog hot can take out an intruder in seconds. we saw that. in addition to that there was a drill that involved evasive driving techniques. i got to ride in the back of one of those vehicles. that was pretty thrilling. although i don't think i want to do that again. it goes to show you how they have to really be on their toes in terms of thwarting an attack on a presidential motorcade. finally, perhaps the most poignant moment of the day came when we looked at the ambush exercise when they tried to train for preventing ambush attack on what they call a principal, like the president or vice president. the drill took place in a mock village on something called clint hill way. for viewers who don't know who clint hill is, he is the legendary secret service agent who served on president kennedy's motorcade in 1963. it's a reminder as to what's at stake when their jobs are ought here. they have to protect the president. it's the most important job that they have of course. >> absolutely is. jim acosta thank you very much. i want to bring back in congressman darrell issa to discuss what we just heard from the director joe clancy congressman. you heard him say he thinks the white house needs a taller fence. do you agree with that? >> well you can have taller fences and that would take care of one problem. but as you know the president and other protected individuals have a vulnerability far greater when they move. so the problems that clancy's dealing with at the secret service, and this is something my committee, my former committee, dealt with my entire chairmanship is low morale turnover questions, the difference between uniformed and nonuniformed personnel. a lot of other of those sort of problems. in an organization that has an almost impossible mission. remember they never get to be on offense. they have to be on defense. they don't get credit for the thousands of hours in which nothing happens. it's the times something goes wrong. and so what clancy has to deal with is keeping an organization sharp and at the top of its game at all times, and modernizing how they deal with new threats. you mentioned drones. but there are lots of other threats. and it is something where, quite frankly, what you know today and you're taking steps on is not where the next problem will usually come. and the perimeter protection of the white house, as we all know if they'd just lock the door. basic principles followed. that jumper would have gotten over the fence but he never would have gotten anywhere beyond the grass. and so i think we have to be a little careful not to overreact as we did years ago when we closed pennsylvania avenue. we did so without a plan to really justify what it was all about and go forward. i do work with the secret service historically. they are a great group of leaders and individuals. but as i say, they're a little bit like a football team that never gets to be on offense, is always on defense. and they don't get to know when the ball's going to be snapped, they have to be ready at all times. >> and he did not mince words, the director when he said there will not be another white house fence jumper. do you buy that? >> there won't be another one that gets through the front door. they are making -- taking steps to be much more vigilant to redo their procedures to have more senior management really making sure that the team is doing their job and is always in position. that's important. but again, when you look at an organization that training field, the questions of alcoholism, of extracurricular activities, how people view their careers, what the espirit de corps is like that's where you win and lose. it's not necessarily a spiked fence that's going to make all the difference in the world although it is important to have those staggered defenses to protect the building of the white house. let's remember a jumper is a very small threat compared to a pack of explosives on an unmanned vehicle or a manned vehicle. and those are real threats that could happen at any and we know that the threat is responsible evolving. what do you see as the next threat to the white house, to the president? >> i don't know where the next threat will come from. and i don't think anyone really does. let's understand when the president is moving or the vice president or other protected individuals, they are more vulnerable. and that's generally where the possibility will occur. many years ago, the late ra feet ka rearry was assassinated in beirut. he was in a vehicle every bit as good as president's car. the problem was they had thousands of pounds of explosives and had been able to bury it underneath a street. that level of explosive, the only way to win is to make sure the president never goes over that location. and when you're talking about all of washington or any other place that a protected individual including the president, goes they have to be able to detect in advance activity that could lead to a large explosive charge or something else that could be devastating beyond human beings' ability to react. remember the kennedy assassination in dallas. that was an exception, that was a long-range sniper. that has historically not been the threats. when they wanted to get truman they walked right up to the front of blair house and would have gotten truman if he'd answered the door. each time there's been an attack we've created greater setback. but at some point the president cannot have absolute setback. he goes to hotels. he goes to foreign countries. and in this day and age, an unmanned aerial vehicle could carry explosive. they've got to be able to take that down proactively. we can't have aircraft flying into the washington space. if they can carry a man on a gyrocopter they could have carried 200 pounds of explosive on that same aircraft. >> director clancy talked about how concerned he is about isis. how much of a threat do you think isis poses to the secret service? >> well the secret service are ready and prepared to take those threats. but the protected individuals, which in washington, d.c. is not just the president and vice president and the families. it's also up in northwest, all those embassies and residents. isis could look at one of those as a softer target. and the impact of any loss in washington, d.c. of any protected individual or building would be pretty devastating for people's view around the world. so there's a large area to protect. here and abroad. very clearly, isis would love to get one of those. they'd like to get a lone wolf to drive hundreds of pounds of explosives or thousands of pounds right up massachusetts avenue and look for an embassy to blow up in front of. so these are real threats. isis has been able to recruit people. we have to be vigilant. we have to be able to find explosives and plans before they happen. and it's not easy. >> and that's growing increasingly harder with the way the threat is now with isis to know about an attack before it happens. congressman darrell issa thank you so much. and just ahead right here in "the situation room," more on the isis threat. and the u.s. strategy to fight terrorist forces. plus a convicted felon deported from the u.s. five times admits to shooting and killing a woman on a crowded san francisco pier. fueling the uproar over immigration and so-called sanctuary cities. a new season brings a new look. a chance to try something different. this summer, challenge your preconceptions and experience a cadillac for yourself. ♪ ♪ take advantage of our summer offers. the 2015 cadillac srx, a crossover with space safety, and style. lease this from around $339 per month. ♪ ♪ thanks for calling angie's list. how may i help you? 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>> well we're upping our ante. we're responding, i assume to the vicious isil attacks in three countries that preceded this. but what i worry about is this military strategy won't get us there. where is there? there is really a political solution not a military solution. but air strikes without adequate intelligence on the ground can't succeed. and in addition to that our strategy in syria's confused. the president today said something important. he said he wants a transition to a pluralist government with bashar assad out. that's important. bashar assad out. but the folks we want to train and are asking to help us want him out now and have thought that our strategy so far it has been true has not been focused on him. >> you talk about the fact that we don't have an adequate intelligence. what would the solution to that somebody what more can we do in syria in terms of the intelligence gathering? >> first of all you have to put folks down range. we don't currently allow u.s. special forces or other capable soldiers down range with units that can i think facilitate better intelligence. remember 75%, according to centcomm, of all those planes flying over to drop bombs or ordnance don't drop that ordnance. they can't find targets, they're not getting targets, or they don't have permission to drop. so what you're seeing this long campaign is because there's a bit of confusion here between the folks trying to get the job done and i think policymakers. i think hopefully today, this was a first step i didn't see a lot in that press conference that gave me confidence they're going to change that policy. but they've got to change that policy. we've got to get more folks down range. we have to offer them better logistics package, command and control packages intelligence packages and we have to be clear on the command and control structure here so they can get those targets. >> i want to bring in bob baer to talk about what's going on in raqqa with air strikes. we've heard reports isis' leader al baghdadi was in raqqa. do you think these air strikes were ordered in part to take out baghdadi? >> well i think we'd like to take out baghdadi no question about it. if we could find him. he's clearly not going up on a cell phone. he's not getting on e-mail. and i think what we have to look at these air strikes that are in response to the expansion of the islamic state. today they took an important strategic town in the north, on the turkish border. major attacks in haditha against the iraqi government and the islamic state is moving on aleppo. we are stuck in this policy which is failing. these air strikes. i think we've all said that the military's said it from the beginning. it's not enough. to go back to the intelligence question our intelligence is terrible because we can't get out and actually talk to people. if these people are going off the air, we really -- it's a black hole and we don't know what to hit out there. >> it's hard to believe that just a year ago, isis was barely even isis. we heard president obama calling the group the jv team. now look how much ground they have gained. jane in your view what more specifically needs to be done? >> again, i don't think this is a military fight. i think that's a piece of the fight. but i think it's a political, diplomatic and messaging fight. i think we're losing the messaging because we're not out there on social media in the way isil is. how embarrassing is this? the country that invented the internet and all of these cutting-edge firms can't find a way to get ahead of the messages by a small number of people that are causing many people in all countries, including ours to leave educated households and become part of the foreign fighter corps. >> no doubt about it. creating a counter narrative has been something that the u.s. has lacked in the fight against isis. they've talked about the social media machine. but what is the solution there? the u.s. government fighting back against isis online isn't exactly going to deter those who would want to join the group, right? what's the solution? >> you have to have a multi-faceted approach. the first thing is not -- yes, it's a political solution has to happen. but we have a military problem right now that needs solving. you will not get to any disruptive activity until we do something about their capital in raqqa, the fact that they have land and space and time and money to recruit, to put these very sophisticated propaganda messages that are regrutting our kids, american kids, british kids european kids. you have to have a more robust effort. i'm glad to see that the president went out but that in and of itself won't do it, out to the pentagon today. we need to step up our game. we need to coordinate better with our allies that are looking for help. we need to engage again in a more robust way. congress needs to act, they should give authorization for force. i think it's sad that they haven't done that yet. and i think that the president needs to engage and allow these folks to go down range to leverage up our allies' capabilities. so you haven't disrupted that. the longer this goes the more likely it is they're going to be successful at getting someone to radicalize here in the united states. >> how do you disrun the social media campaign that isis has? no matter how many air strikes you do there, i think that is -- as officials in the u.s. have acknowledged -- >> the state department can't do this with 50 people the whole country has to make -- the president should call the country to action to get ahead of this. we've got the cutting-edge technology firms that could join in this fight and really help make this not just the country but the region a lot safer. i don't think -- i agree that we have to partner with these folks on the ground in syria. but i don't think the american people are prepared to put boots on the ground and take the casualties that will result. and i think we need to authorize -- >> the 101st airborne division this is about special capability soldiers that leverage up our allies. >> i know but they're in harm's way. and they could get killed -- >> you can't beat them without putting -- >> here's a debate i'm sure we're not going to settle in this sitting. but it's going to be an ongoing conversation. mike thank you for coming. a convicted felon and five-time deport tee admits to shooting and killing a woman on a crowded san francisco pier. so why didn't police turn him over to immigration and customs enforcement months ago? 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yes. that's why we need to secure the border. but i would never besmirch all the people who come here. >> i don't think we can sugarcoat that but that doesn't mean everybody who's coming across is a rapist or murderer or anything else. >> reporter: in a statement to cnn i.c.e. said city law enforcement did not honor an earlier detain request for lopez sanchez. if the local authorities have notified i.c.e. they were about to release this individual into the community, i.c.e. could have taken custody of him, thus preventing this terrible tragedy. the san francisco sheriff's department says it is deeply saddened by the death, adding that city ordinance deemed sanchez eligible for release. that ordinance dismisses immigration detainers as a sole reason for holding prisoners. and we just talked to the sheriff one on one, asked him specifically i.c.e. is saying it was a mistake san francisco made they had simply to hand him over to i.c.e. or at least notify i.c.e. he said i.c.e. knows the rules, they know this rule has been in place for a very long time they do not take fault in what happened it is simply the sheriff's department following the local laws. >> no matter how you cut this it's a breakdown in the system. thank you, sarah sidner. we want to dig deeper with former fbi assistant director tom fuentes, our cnn law enforcement analyst. the former acting director of u.s. immigration and customs enforcement john torres. criminal defense attorney joey jackson. john starting with you. help me understand this. he was arrested trying to cross the border back into the u.s. after being deported five times. goes to prison. gets out. instead of being immediately deported pack to mexico he's handed over to the san francisco police department. why wasn't he immediately deported after he got out of prison? >> he was in custody of the bureau of prisons. what happens there is there are two competing requests. one that says i.c.e. wants him, the other one says the sheriff's department wants him. based on an outstanding warrant for drug conviction or drug charge. and so what happens is you could send him to i.c.e. they'll deport him right away. in this instance they prefer to send him over so he can be prosecuted on the drug charge. possibly serve another jail sentence. and then be deported after. >> if he's going to be deported why not just do it from the get-go? especially as we've seen a lot of police departments don't hrn these detainers. so you're running the risk of a police department letting a suspect go out on the streets and kill someone, as we saw in this case. >> historically people have complained in the past why are you going to give a benefit to someone who's here without status by letting them go back to their home country, not serve a day in prison? versus a u.s. citizen under the same circumstances has to go serve his time in prison. so what you see here is you'd rather have that person off the street. knowing he's going to go to prison if he serves time. unfortunately, what you have here are policies in place that prevent two law enforcement agencies from working together until someone's been victimized. >> police departments have their reasons for not honoring these detainers. even if a department doesn't want to honor a detainer in this case why didn't the san francisco police the sheriff's office give i.c.e. a heads-up that we're releasing this suspect that you're interested in? we're not going to hold him but we want to give you a heads-up? >> that's absolutely true. the laws making sanctuary cities in l.a. or san francisco, california cities it's called the trust law. basically is that local police departments can't spend money enforcing federal laws. they can't spend the money housing somebody on behalf of the federal government. that wasn't the case here. san francisco was holding him on drug charges, as john mentioned. and all they had to do was make a phone call. they didn't have to hold him one extra day or give him one extra meal. what they're saying by saying, if you don't give us a court order -- that's just unheard of in terms of police cooperation. we're not going to cooperate with i.c.e. unless we have to and are ordered to by a court? that sounds to me ridiculous. >> that's what the sheriff's office said that we didn't have a court order, therefore, we didn't have to comply. >> in other words, make us we're not going to cooperate, make us. >> you brought up sanctuary cities. sanchez told our affiliate that he kept coming back to san francisco because he knew it was a sanctuary city. tell us what does that mean? and why are there sanctuary cities? >> sure pamela. what he's essentially saying is that they're lax as it relates to the law. let's go pack to what a detainer is. an immigration detainer is merely notification by i.c.e. the immigration custom and enforcement services in conjunction with homeland security to say just detain the person. and it's not necessarily that they're going to be deported immediately but there's some federal issue that the federal government wants to look after. and it's good for 48 hours. and so think about this. the drug charges, he was returned on march 26th. the drug charges were dropped on march 27th. he was held until april 15th. so all that would have been required was for the immigration detainer that is a notification to the federal government and the federal government comes, picks him up and they evaluate whether or not he should be deported is deportable or what the immigration status is. so when you talk about sanctuary cities essentially what you're saying is that they have a policy which is not going to honor federal law. and that within itself is very problematic. >> but the california law makes it if they are a fell on you have to hold that person. that's another debate. thank you very much. just ahead in "the situation room," more reaction to don't trump's remarks about immigrants. his republican presidential rivals are starting to speak out more forcefully. more than two weeks after trump's stunning remarks about mexicans during his campaign announcement. >> they are bringing drugs. they are bringing crime. they are rapists. and some, i assume, are good people. ♪ (music throughout) ♪ the ultimate do-over for wood and concrete with behr premium deckover. get $10 off one-gallon cans and $40 off five-gallon buckets of behr deckover paints and stains. exclusively at the home depot. we live in a pick and choose world. choose choose choose. but at bedtime? 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do you think this is a signal they realize this is someone i have to worry about? >> they are walking a fine line. they don't want to inflame him and empower him and light a match under him. the same thing goes for the republican national committee leaders. they don't want do that so that trump can say, the party bosses look they are against me. that would just give limb ahim a lot more oxygen. the people opposing him are walking a fine line. the donors are saying you know what? you have to oppose this guy. the activists in the party are saying we kind of like a little bit what trump is saying. everybody is kind of walking on tiptoes around here against trump. >> it seems like, jeff from what gloria is saying there is concern about how he is going to react. that he are fearful -- >> play into his hands. >> he is going to win that game probably. he has very -- he has less to lose than jeb bush or marco rubio. they are also afraid -- they were afraid of elevating him. they were trying to ignore it. it has moved too far beyond ignoring. now, again, i think some have missed a leadership moment in terms of calling him out on these things. at the end of the day, the primary election it may be good rhetoric. it's a killer for the republican party and they know that. >> from the perspective of the rnc, they don't want to pick this fight. it has to be a candidate that takes on donald trump, or a network that says we won't allow you on the debate stage. it's not going to be the rnc that says you are not allowed up there. >> the chairman of the rnc has said these comments are not helpful. you are right, they want the candidates to kind of play it out. because they have to thread the needle here. they don't want to empower him any more than he is. >> he has been off the campaign trail. he issued a statement -- >> we heard -- >> it was three pages. someone we will hear from is hillary clinton. she's sitting down for an interview with brianna keilar, her first since she ran for president. she has closed off as we know to the media. now suddenly there's this shift in media availability. what do you make of that? >> i think that it is very convenient for them to be saying right now, look bernie sanders is having a surge. we should get out there. this will be bet areter for us. the clinton campaign is very planned out and structured. this is when they want to move into the longer interviews and being out there and public. this gives them a way to say, we're not taking it for granted. we will sit down for interviews without going head to head and taking on bernie sanders directly. >> when you look at the republican party and this little fight that's going on with donald trump, hillary clinton, by contrast can look serious, engaged in the issues and have a different kind of debate without getting on a debate stage yet. >> she does want to talk about why she's running for president. this gives her the chance. a chance to lower expectations. they're final with people chattering about bernie sanders is rising up a little bit. they know that -- i think they are doing a fair bit of setting expectations we're worried about him. not really worried about him. >> absolutely. we have a long way to go until the election. thank you gloria, jeff and sarah. to our viewers, join us in "the situation room" tomorrow for the exclusive one on one with hillary clinton. she's sitting down with brianna keilar for her first major tv interview since the start of the her campaign. watch tomorrow at 5:00 eastern time. thank you very much for watching. for all of us here at cnn, i'm pamela brown in "the situation room." erin burnett "out front" starts right now. president obama speaking out, admitting isis fighters are nimble owning up to failures. new details on the new york prison escape. how they planned to kill mitchell's husband and the moment she said she couldn't go through with it. breaking news bill cosby admitting he gave drugs to at least one young woman he wanted to have sex with. we have that breaking news tonight. let's go "out front." good evening to all. i'm erin

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