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with diabetes. but the impact his life had on music. >> reading the obituaries what strikes me is that this guy was important not just in the music business, but in the culture. he desegmeregated that show. he was the first show to have black teenagers appear on it. he said the only time he got swe sweaty palms in an interview was when he interviewed a black american youth. >> he talks about that integration, you don't get the sense that this was a big planned out, plotted out strategy. >> no. >> it was just one of those thing that is -- >> no. >> joe levy is with us this morning. it's nice to have you. we've had lots of conversations and opportunities to talk. of course, the editor of billboard magazine. let's start with the desegregation, when dick clark tells the story of sweating through his first interview because he had invited black teenagers to dance on "american bandstand," the show was obviously about young people dancing. how big of an impact was that? >> it was a big deal. rock 'n' roll was ready to cross boundaries that the rest of america wasn't ready to cross. popular music was ready to integrate america, get listeners talking to each other in a way that the rest of america wasn't. what dick clark did so often was to present the music in a way that all of america could understand. this was a moment when that was exactly what he was doing. >> they have a camera now focused on the -- his star on the hollywood walk of fame. obviously, people are assuming that in addition to these flowers by the time the sun comes up out there you'll see a will the of people coming out to mourn his passing. he died from a massive heart attack. he was 82 years old. why do you think he was so successful, do you think? he was successful financially and he was also successful, as you say, in the culture. >> i said to joe backstage -- joe kind of laughed at me. i said i can't talk about dick clark without thinking of ryan seacrest. >> he brought it up again. >> you did. >> sitting in your office thinking of ryan seacrest. >> he crosses my mind often, ryan seacrest. he has built this massive media empire, highly successful. the story is that he modeled it off of dick clark, this highly successful businessman. >> there's no doubt that dick clark blazed the trail that ryan seacrest is following right now. one of the reasons that dick clark diversified so much is during the scandal of the 1950s, it appears that he didn't do anything wrong but he had investments in record companies, in music publishing companies. abc, which was presenting "bandstand" gave him a choice. either keep those investments and keep making that money or stay with "american bandstand." he divested himself of those companies. when it came to time time to go into business again, he actually got excited sitting in a room with accountants and lawyers and talking business. he loved it. >> he was, what, responsible for shows as far as award shows like the golden globes. >> american music awards. >> the $10,000 pyramid, which he stayed with so long -- >> the 25. >> it became the $100,000 pyramid. >> right. >> how was he able to break those barriers in 1950s and 1960s here where culturally it was not common to interview blacks. how was he able to successfully do that back then? >> look at dick clark. so clean cut, so presentable. he was able to present the music to parents that way. at a time when his audience understood it, they dressed and looked like him. very respectable, presentable claen-cut teenagers, dancing and having a good time, coming together in a social context with respect. so much of what he did wasn't just to present music but to present teenage culture to other teenagers and their parents. >> i want to play a bunch of interviews. obviously, celebrities have been talking about really the difference that dick clark made in their lives and their careers as well. one word that kept coming up was kindness, that he seemed to treat the people coming out on stage very, very kindly. let's listen to marie osmond and neil sedaka as well. >> i did the first rockin' eve new year's eve show. and he wrote the liner notes. i remember he said i like your style. i'm going to write the first line of notes on your lp. so, i have some wonderful, wonderful memories. and i'll be eternally grateful for him -- to him for starting my career. >> dick clark is truly going to be missed, because dick had an eye. he had a vision. he could -- he could smell a star. i swear, he could. he could just -- he could hear it and he knew it in their personality. not a celebrity, but a star. >> how many people would you guess, roughly, where he made their career or took them -- >> you can't even begin to calculate. think about this. the first time the show went national in 1957, one of his guests, jerry lee lewis. flash forward 26 years, famous clip of him presenting a young woman on her first single. her name is madonna. he says where do you see yourself in 20 years? she says i will be ruling the world. she turned out to be correct. but think about that across three decades, somebody who stood toe to toe with figures that important. >> consistently getting it right. >> yeah. >> bandstand existed as a show before they -- he came in to host the show. the difference was that he genuinely liked the kids where the two hosts before, sounds like, were a little bit crotchety. he enjoyed watching young people dance and also was interested in the performers as well. >> he understood that the kids were crucial to the music and to the show. he cared about teenagers. he respected them. he was interested in them. not everyone in tv or music business was. they were interested in making tv. >> i saw someone describe him as america's older brother. the conduit between parents and teenagers. he looked like the older brother who was hip enough to know the music but made it okay for your parents as well. >> that's right. >> joe levy, thank you very much. a little bit later in our next hour, we'll talk to larry klein, a long-time producer of dick clark's new year's rockin eve. and then we'll chat with gloria gaynor, who got her big break on "american bandstand." first, though, a look at the headlines. christine has that for us. good morning, christine. >> good morning to you, soledad. police divers will continue to a north carolina pond to continue searching for a ft. bragg soldier, who has been missing since the weekend. private first class kelly bordeaux was last seen at a fayetteville bar early saturday morning. investigators would not elaborate about a lead they got yesterday that led them to search for her in that pond. a toronto man has been arrested for allegedly convincing a 12-year-old new jersey girl to perform sex acts online by pretending to be justin bieber. 34-year-old lee moyer faces charges of pornography, extortion. he may be in contact with other young girls he met on facebook in canada, united states and the philippines. at-nra event, ted nugent said he would be dead or in jail if president obama gets re-elected. nugent says he's looking forward to meeting with the secret service. a new judge taking the reins of the trayvon martin shooting, judge lester will preside over the zimmerman bail hearing tomorrow. zimmerman is charged with second degree murder. later this morning, florida's governor will announce a task force to examine that state's stand your ground law, at the heart of zimmerman's defense. minding your business this morning, futures are up. dow fewers 70 points higher, pointing to a market bounce at the open. quarterly income fell after an account adjustment of nearly $5 billion for bank of america. corporate profits have been stronger than expect ed this earning season, helping to push markets up this morning. next hour, how many people filed unemployment claims for the first time last week. investors still waiting on those numbers for a fresh read on the health of the jobs market. the infamous janet jackson wardrobe malfunction could end up in a supreme court. obama administration is asking justices to weigh in on fcc fines from that case. cbs was slapped with $550,000 fines for the super bowl slip. but last year a federal appeals court said the fine was improper. they said they acted arbitrarily because they didn't give media prior warnings. the supreme court will decide whether to take this case later this year. i can't believe it was 2004. >> i know. >> time flies and we're still talking about it. >> yes, we are. still ahead on "starting point," first secret service agents being forced out over that prostitution scandal in columbia. now one of the escorts is talking. we'll talk to a former secret service agent who knows those agents involved. trying to turn her 15 minutes into four more years, kim kardashian is thinking about running for office. >> 15 minutes? >> all right, all right. her 35 minutes, four more years. i'd campaign for her. if you're about to head into work, check out our live blog at cnn.com/start i cnn.com/startingpoint. here is abby's playlist one direction "what makes you beautiful." ♪[music plays] ♪[music plays] ♪[music plays] purina one beyond. food for your cat or dog. 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one has been retired, one has quit and one is being pushed out. what do we know about the three that the focus seems to be on right now? >> it seems that they were the targets in the investigation. again, i don't have any inside information, not being a secret service agent anymore. it seems they were the central focus of the investigation and the service acted quickly. i think the investigation is vigorously proceeding. i think they're looking to really move past this as to not further tarnish what was a stellar reputation up until this point. >> so eight others, i should mention, are on administrative leave. what happens to them? in your assessment, are their careers over even if they continue to work in the secret service? are they just done because they're part of this massive scandal? >> sure, fair question. i think the personal embarrassment alone is enough for them to just evaluate their own careers and say, yeah. i think at this point they would be happy to just keep their jobs and move on. but, yeah, this isn't the kind of thing you put on a resume. there's no question about it. it's unfortunate, but true. >> that may be the understatement, dan, of the week here. >> depends what your next yob is, i guess. >> exactly. >> will cain, dan. we kind of dive into the selacious details of the story. we've talked to, i guess, the main prostitute in the scandal. how could this have compromised the president's security? how would this really and specifically -- i don't know if you can give a hypothetical. could theoretically these ladies have gotten access to the president's personal room? how was this a threat to his security? >> it doesn't appear that this was the case. of course, i'm not privy to details. when you're dealing with foreign nationals in a foreign country, you don't know who these people are. they haven't been vetted. what a perfect conduit to get action toes sensitive information, but to use, you know, prostitutes. and you're assuming that most -- that's why the secret service is very strict, very strict rules regarding their -- your contact with foreign nationals, especially in a foreign country and even on u.s. soil. they're very strict about it. >> "the new york times," the writer's name, i think, is ryan newman, interviewed one of these sex workers. one of the things that i thought was interesting was that she said that the guy in particular who she was dealing with didn't identify himself as a secret service agent, which i think was seen in a lot of ways as a very positive thing. he also said this. let's play a little clip. >> one of them was essentially hitting on her, saying he wanted to be with her sheechlt says that she told him, well, that's great but you have to give me a gift. and he said, well, how much is the gift? and she says she told him $800. and then a lot of drinking happened and at some point she and him went back to the hotel. >> so, he sort of lays out what happened. $800 seems to be that big figure that later, the next morning when she said, okay, i want my $800, then he's like, there's no way. offered 30 and the thing kind of become a thing and he kicked her out of the room. that's when she got her friends and it became an issue and police were eventually called in. so, what happens next? there are some secret service agents who are saying they didn't know that these were prostitutes. i will confess to you, dan, i laughed out loud when i read that. i literally was like, really? >> they're actually escorts not prostitutes. >> no, no, they weren't drawing the line. the sex worker said i'm not a prostitute. i'm an escort. there's a difference. but some of the secret service agents were like, i had no idea that these women were hookers. >> well, actions have consequences. i put out a statement yesterday to my e-mail list and on my facebook basically saying that, that everyone has to be held responsible for their actions here. and, like you said, there has to be a degree of common sense. i don't know if ignorance or stupidity is a defense. i'm not sure it is. but everyone should be held accountable who is involved. i know them personally. it's unfortunate. again, actions have consequences. i think that's the whole -- with the gsa scandal and this going on, people are just looking for some change in government right now and some responsibility taken by their government officials using their tax dollars. this is an unfortunate time. the service is doing the right thing and handling this well. they're saying the right things. they're embarrassed. vigorous investigation. they've taken full, complete responsibility. there's no one running from this, including myself who has been in front of the cameras for three days talking about this. >> we appreciate that. you've spent a lot of time with us. dan bongino is a former secret service agent. thanks for being with us. >> yes, ma'am. a heart-stopping video. a car launches right through -- look at that. >> man. >> going fast, too. the first thing in its path is a stroller. we'll tell you what happened. also, political story that plays to almost all parties, kim kardashian is thinking about getting into politics. you go, girl. will cain's playlist will jennings "luckenbact, h, texas. ♪ [ piano chords ] [ man announcing ] what we created here. what we achieved here. what we learned here. and what we pioneered here. all goes here. the one. the accord. smarter thinking from honda. 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[ female announcer ] only from aveeno. ♪ >> welcome back, that's off abby's playlist. of course it is, because she's so cool. >> it's not will cain's. >> i don't typecast people on this show, abby. >> i apologize. >> could be. could be. reality star and entrepreneur kim kardashian is now setting her sights on public office. the town of glendale, california, in her crosshairs. buzzing this morning that news wants to run for mayor of that l.a. suburb. a clip from her sister's reality show, khloe and lamar. >> i decided i'm going to run for the mayor of glendale. i have to buy a house there. you have to are have residency there. i'm going to -- yeah, park right here. so noel and i are looking into like all the requirements and i'm literally going to have a huge -- she's going to help me with my campaign. >> i love it. noel apparently is going to help her with her campaign. >> this is not too far off from what politics -- >> you scare us, abby. you scare us. kim kardashian is armenian and they have a huge population. one problem. glendale doesn't elect a mayor. >> like five years. >> you have to take a while to pla plan these things. >> i love it. abby who saw the republican primaries up close is like, that's not so crazy. >> will's being quiet over here. >> why this is going to be a great idea. these five city council members hold the job of mayor. they step in and it rotates every single year. here is why she's brilliant, right? glendale, i think, would be happy to have her. she made $18 million in profit off her 72-day marriage. hello? brilliant. she has a net worth of $45 million. she make $4,000 from keeping up with the kardashians and various spin-offs. she shows up at an event they pay her up to a quarter of a million dollars. think how you could fill the glendale coiffers in no time at all. >> i like a good reality tv show, a good reality star but at some point you have to realize we're all being played for the fool. if we acknowledge it, that's one thing. but between getting mayored, running for mayor, everything is a publicity stunt. her entire life is a publicity stunt. lamar's life is a publicity stunt, playing for the mavericks. he didn't play for the mavericks. >> you sound a little -- keystone pipeline, we'll talk about that. and president obama is attacking mitt romney's silver spoon and mitt romney is going after the president's golf clubs. got. rv -- covered. why would you pay for a hotel? i never do. motorcycles -- check. atv. i ride those. do you? no. boat. house. hello, dear. hello. hello. oh! check it -- [ loud r&b on car radio ] i'm going on break! the more you bundle, the more you save. now, that's progressive. ♪ >> that would be the everly brothers. >> i love this song. >> they also made their debut on national television on "american bandstand." shoutouts throughout the morning about that. first, though, headlines. christine has a look at that. good morning again. >> thank you, soledad. good morning. fallout from photos published in the l.a. times, showing u.s. soldiers dangling the remains of suicide bombers in front of the camera like trophies. cnn has not authenticated these photos. the taliban now vowing revenge. leon panetta saying this is not who we are. an investigation is already under way. india, staking its claim with world power by launching a missile with a range equivalent of 3,100 miles, potentially reaching targets in china. indian officials say the missile, though, is purely for deterence. mitt romney and president obama trading jabs on the campaign trail. president oba

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