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afghanistan to tell you about. general john allen, the is now strongly condemning some photos that will be appearing in "the los angeles times" at 8:00 a.m. eastern time and those photos depict u.s. troops posing with the bodies of suicide bombers in afghanistan. the incident which took place back in 2010 "represents a serious error in judgment by several soldiers who acted out of ignorance and unfamiliarity with u.s. army values." nick, we haven't seen the photos yet. what exactly are they supposed to show us? >> apologizing for the contents of these pictures ahead of their publication by "los angeles times" expected later on today. they issued a statement in which they condemn the images which apparently show the bodies of dead afghan insurgents who died in suicide attacks. i mean apparently taken, according to issa a in 2010 but only now being leaked to the press. let me read to soyou some of th statement. "the action of the photographs do not represent the policies and these behavior is inconsistent with the values." but to be honest, after the past four months, nato are becoming used to and practice the art of damage limitation. in january we had the instance in which united states marines apparently corpses of dead afghans and then the mistake of burning korans by nato soldiers and then the massacre of 17 afghan civilians in kandahar. deeply troubling narrative for the nato campaign as it inches towards its end, it's unclear what it will be when the pictures are published. this adds to a growing toll of bad news towards the end of this deca decade-long war here. >> thanks for that update. we'll try to get those photos for you as soon as we possibly can and have more conversations about them this morning. naftau bendavid. amy kremer. do you prefer chairman or chairwoman? >> either way. it's all the same. >> and will cain is a contributor for cnn. a conversation we have been having. >> still here. >> looking good. >> what about this ted nugent comment controversy? controversy, yes or no? what? >> that's one of the questions that always comes up with these things. should we care? he didn't have an official position with the romney campaign or anything like that. >> he's kind of known for saying things that are over the top. >> that's the thing he's most known for right now. on the other hand, he's a celebrity and he endorsed mitt romney. romney campaign glad to have him on hand. they were happy to benefit from that. and now it's back firing somewhat. >> on the heels of hillary rosen's comment, connected to movements or administrations and how much did her comments respect those they're speaking about. >> doesn't even matter. >> i think ted nugent just builds upon the narrative. should we care what ted nugent has to say? >> i think, really, this kind of conversation coming from either side is not helpful. we've seen it from debbie wasserman schultz about the tea party and, you know, it's not just helpful from either side and, you know, i've heard last night i think somebody said this is the nastiest presidential campaign ever and these people who have a platform as celebrity, i think they need to tone it down. they don't speak for the campaign or the party, but, still, it's not helpful. >> i don't know that people will tone it down in the days of twitter. it will just elevate and get that whole conversation spread to more people. ted nugent, i should mention, had an opportunity, if he wanted to, he could have apologized yesterday because he was on dana loesch radio show. there has been a lot of doubling down of these comments. people say something, instead of saying, i was wrong. my goodness, i apologize. i meant it, i said it, i really meant it. i mean it more today than ever before. he told the crowd as he was stumping for mitt romney at the nra convention in st. louis, this originally on saturday. take a listen. >> barack obama becomes the president in november, again, i will either be dead or in jail by this time next year. >> okay, wasn't really sure what he exactly meant by that, but then when he was talking to dana lo l l loecsh he said this? >> i stand by my speech. it is 100% positive. it's about we the people taking back our american dream from the corrupt monsteres in the federal government under the administration and the communist czars he has appointed. the national journal, others reporting that the secret service is now involved and intends to follow up with nugent about exactly what he meant. democrats launching a social media and one video campaign demanding that mitt romney disavowed nugent who. romney campaign actually didn't directly respond to nugent. they issued a statement through the romney spokesperson saying "devisive language is offensive no matter what side of the political aisle it comes from. mitt romney believes everyone needs to be civil." that's not going out on a limb. let's get right to senator james, nice to see you, sir. thanks for talking with us. >> nice to be with you, soledad. >> thank you, appreciate that. we were just talking and walking through what rocker ted nugent, who's pretty much known for his outrageous comments had to say. i'm interested in your take on it now that the secret service is involved. >> i hadn't really heard the exact comments until i heard it three times on your program and earlier this morning. what he's saying, i can't figure out what people are talking about. he's talking about him that tim himself would either be dead or in jail. how does that relate to the president? i have a real hard time putting that together. if you want to see how you can be abused, read my book "the greatest hopes" and see what bobby kennedy, you know, he had me for treason and, so, if you want to see some real threats, you can see them. i don't know what they're talking about. >> do you think, hold on one second there, senator. do you think that ted nugent when he said those comments, which i think were very vague, he did go on to talk about some, the administration in general. not certain individuals. it's certainly violent language at the very least. go ahead, senator, i'm sorry. >> yes, he did. again, he was talking about himself. to me, when i first heard that, i thought this guy is so offended by what the administration is doing. if we're going to have to have four more years of barack obama, he will either be dead or in jail. >> well, senator,ed admittedly e comment was hard to understand what he was getting at but one interpretation said he was going to somehow attack the president and that's the reason he would wind up in jail or dead. the secret service is taking it serious enough to go after it. i'm puzzled by your puzzlement to why the reaction has been as strong as it has. >> i think that anyone could put an interpretation on like that. i just didn't hear that because that's not what he said and it is confusing because it's hard to say, why would he be dead and now we're talking about ted, not the president. and i didn't quite understand it. well, i tell you, if they scrutinize people that close, they have done that to me, so i can understand. why is it? let me ask you guys this, we have a -- >> are you interviewing me on our own show. come on, senator, we love that. >> i know you're interested in what's going on. we have a president who constantly says that we only have 2% of the reserves and he says this totally outrageous, not true at all, but he says is it so many times, he believes it. if we open up for some these lands for drilling. you know how long it would take, soledad? >> i don't know. >> it would take perhaps 70 days. i talked last night to herald hamm who is one of the biggest, he's from oklahoma and working up in north dakota right now. i said if they were to open up some of these public lands or other places because 90% already stopped we can't drill on and that's back to supply and demand. how long would it take you to reach the pumps to fill our gas tank? he said, well, 60 days to bring the first barrel up and then take an additional, listen to this, ten days to go through the refining process and reach the pumps. you're talking about something like two or three months and i agree gary becker is nobel prize economist and he said, what's wrong with these people? there's not a person watching us right now who didn't in the elementary school hear about supply and demand. we have, if we would just open up and do what every other country does, enough gas, oil and coal to take care of this country without any independence on the middle east for the next 90 years. >> senator, i have the president saying that. i want to play that first and then ask you a question on the other side, if i can. let's play that, guys. >> the problem is we use more than 20% of the world's oil and we only have 2% of the world's proven oil reserves. even if we drilled every square inch of this country right now, we'd still have to rely disproportionately on other countries for their oil. >> i would say roughly that i talked to 25 analysts over the x number of years about gas prices as they go up and back down and invariably they talk about those prices are not really linked to whoever is sitting in the oval office. they really say, listen, whatever the external factors are, in this particular case, instability in iran is really much more correlated to those high gas prices. is that not correct? >> no, i think, first of all, he trying to use this manipulation and an extension of his attack on oil companies and all of that, but, again, you're just making that case. you just repeated that he has said over and over and over again and people assume that someone is going to tell the truth. >> i didn't repeat it. i replayed what he said. i played a chunk of what he said and you mentioned it the first time and i'm telling you what analysts told me that they correlate high gas prices to externals in this particular season it is really about what's happening in iran. is that wrong? >> no, i think it is wrong. i think that we have to look at what our domestic capabilities are. but he talks about 2%. that's what they call proven reserves. in order to prove a reserve, you have to prove a term. recoverable reserve as to what is there and what is our potential. greater than any country in the world and all we have to do. again, we're the only country that doesn't exploit our own resources. i think, you know, you have to look at this supply and demand because it's a major thing. again, i'm not an economist. but that's why i quote other people who are saying how is it that we can just ignore all of this potential that we have out there. obviously, in addition to being able to be self-supporting, we'd have all the jobs and everything that goes with it and maybe it's because i'm from an oil state and i look at this and just shake my head and wonder, by the way, i just got back from the middle east and areas like that and they asked the same question. why is it you guys don't develop your own resources? i don't know. we should do it and i think we will do it, but this president's not going to do it because he has a commitment to the moveon.org and the michael moore and all the far left environmental extremists. he's going to try to do that and hold them together for their election and therefore using the same thing over and over again. let's not forget that this thing about, it would take ten years before it would be reflected. it's just outrageous. >> we'll go back and we're going to crunch the numbers. we're going to crunch the numbers independently, as well. we'll keep this conversation going because, we'll have you back. we always love talking to you. republican from the state of oklahoma, thank you, sir, appreciate it. christine has other headlines for us. hey, good morning. >> good morning, soledad. a female soldier stationed at ft. bragg in north carolina may be in danger this morning. army first class kelli bordeaux was last seen as at a fayetteville bar early saturday morning. her sister says she's not the type to go awol. >> she joined the military because she knew that was going to better her life. so, she just did the best she could. she wanted to make her family proud and she knew joining the army was going to do that. she's loved by all of her friends and family and we all just really want her to come home. >> bordeaux joined the arm ay one year ago and reported for duty in ft. bragg as a specialist. warren buffett is battling stage one prostate cancer. he will undergo radiation treatments beginning in july. he feels great and his energy level is 100%. the world's third richest person writing a letter to his berkshire hathaway shareholders telling them his condition is not life threatening or debilitating in any meaningful way. buffett going on to say i will let shareholders know immediately should my health situation change. dow futures are about 25 points lower after a solid rally yesterday. did you see that rally yesterday? biggest in weeks. everyone is waiting for news from europe. spain may need a bailout now. investors also waiting on more corporate earnings reports which have been unexpectedly good so far. a man gets naked at the portland international airport last night. he says he was protesting the tsa screening process accusing agents of harassing him. 50-year-old john brennan was arrested and charged with indecent exposure and that is a unique way to complain about tsa screening. >> proving the theory i have. i have a theory about people who get naked. the people you get naked are the people you never want to see get naked. >> that is unfair criticism of a man who has made a very, very strong stand this morning. >> i salute him. put your jacket back on and go through the screening like everybody else, sir. >> he salutes you, too, that's terrible. >> put on a speedo. >> exactly. naked? really? still ahead this morning on "starting point" southern baptist leader is now apologizing for race hustlerses. we'll talk to the president of the southern baptist convention. get real. shovel ready project $225 million to move one shrub. if you're about to head to work, don't miss the rest of the show go to our blog at cnn.com/startingpoint. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. ♪ where the sun never goes out ♪ ♪ and the sky is deep and blue ♪ ♪ won't you take me american flight 280 to miami is now ready for boarding. ♪ there with you fly without putting your life on pause. be yourself. nonstop. american airlines. are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule. the first technology of its kind... mom and dad, i have great news. is now providing answers families need. siemens. answers. calls to resign despite an apology from the public policy arm over comments he made in the trayvon martin case. last week on his radio show richard land had this to say about reverend al sharpton and reverend jesse jackson. >> not that the facts matter to people like al sharpton, even if it turns out zimmerman did not act out of fear, did act out of fear for his safety and not racial animosity. don't expect anyone stoking the racial fires to start issuing macopes. they're race hustlers who made their careers and made their fortunes exploiting racism in the united states. >> so, that was richard land talking. the comments didn't sit well with some southern baptists. after all the, southern baptist convention spent many years frying to distant itself. so, on monday land apologized and he wrote this. i'm writing to express my deep regret for any hurt or misnoodzing about my comments from the trayvon martin case. it grieves me to hear that any comments of mine have to any degree set back the cause of racial reconciliation to southern baptist or american life. some of the members say it's not enough, they are demanding his resignation. this as the religious group is expected to vote in its first african-american president in a couple months. nice to see you, thanks for talking with us. we just had a technological glitch and we have lost him. so, we will see if we can get his connection up again, but we're going to ask him about these comments about richard land. interesting, i think when you look at the polling on the whole trayvon martin case. outside of the case, sort of no question that george zimmerman killed trayvon martin, no one is arguing that part of the case. was it justified? anything anyone can be convicted of at the end of the day. african-americans overwhelmingly see injustice done in not arresting him and white people for the most part, overwhelmingly see that injustice is done and arresting him in some way and the numbers are almost exactly flipped. and i think that this goes to the heart of what richard land is talking about. what he calls a rush to judgment and racial ambulance chasing. >> i don't know if that's put exacly right. i think the poll would reflect it, if my twitter feed is any reflection of how people feel the assumption of knowing the unknowable. we still don't know exactly what happened in this case and that doubt, some people really don't like hearing that doubt in this case. >> the biggest question is about racial profiling. black people say racial profiling exists and they will cite personal experiences they have and they'll say, racial profiling exists, so, no surprise that this could have happened with george zimmerman and trayvon martin and there should be an arrest because to not have an arrest is an indication that the police aren't doing their job. i think white people and this is broad strokes on this, nonscientific polling on my part, who don't have an experience personally with racial profiling say, let's wait for a judgment. let's see how it turns out. >> i don't think that when we're talking about white people versus, you know, african-americans. i think everybody wants justice done in this case, justice served. and i believe in the justice system. i think most people do believe in the justice system, but what we've seen played out here is it's being tried in the media and just perpetuated by these comments that are being made from people all across the country and it's not helpful. let the authorities, whether they be the state authorities in florida or the federal authority, let them do their job and let justice be served in this case. that's what we need to do. >> i think a lot of people would say that's fifsophically great. if there wasn't protests and marches, the case would not have gone back to being reconsidered. if you remember what happened, the local folks started marching and eventually it was reverend sharpton and reverend jackson who flew in and became part of those marches. maybe it would have just disappeared. >> also, i think that black people in this country have had a lot of experiences with authorities not doing their job. you know, they've seen over decades that people who were supposed to step in and particularly in the south and pursue these cases whether it's police, prosecutors, judges haven't done what most of us would consider to be justice and that's why they don't have the same trust that people with a different experience may have had. i think one of the things that richard land's comments highlight, white conservatives in the south do have a fairly complex history with race. i think for him to say that in that contest provoked a certain action. >> i think it just really shows that conversations about race are really mired in conflict and people's personal reactions and are informed by your

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