>> this is dinnertime here. >> he doesn't sleep at all basically. will cain, cnn contributor and contributor to theblaze.com and roland martin, political analyst. 7:00 a.m. eastern and 6:00 a.m. in illinois. one of the most important primary, illinois, that's what we say always, 54 delegates at stake in the primary and the winner is expected to capture the bulk of the delegates. it will be the biggest haul since the georgia primary that happened earlier this month. mitt romney looking to pad his commanding lead in the delegate chase. rick santorum we spoke to the santorum campaign yesterday really hoping to burst governor romney's bubble and the two are going at each other in their own form of chicago style politics. listen. >> we're not going to be successful in replacing an economic lightweight with another economic lightweight. >> do you really believe this country wants to elect a wall street financier as president of the united states? do you think that's the kind of experience we need? >> what is a financier? what is that pronunciation? >> i guarantee you he was down state talking to a lot of the conservative areas as opposed to in chicago. >> financier. >> sounds french to me. >> rick santorum also making a case a win for him today could be the beginning of the end for mitt romney. listen. >> if we are able to do what i know most people think is impossible, which is to carry the state of illinois, that will fundamentally change this election like no other contest to date. it will put us in a position where they'll stop talking about delegates and start talking about how are we going to stop rick santorum from being the nominee. >> well, nothing is impossible. but a new poll says it's very, very, very, very unlikely. american research group shows that governor romney has 44% of the vote, up nine points from a different poll that took place about two weeks ago. senator santorum is at 30% so you're looking at a 14 point difference there. first thing to look for, do you think, will cain, in the state of illinois? >> i want to know the cnn election in numbers guru john king was on 360 and showed the long odds that rick santorum has not to win the nomination but to even deny mitt romney the ability to win the nomination so my question, and i know you're going to be talking to ryan, but what pressure is on rick santorum to get out of the race? what is the point? >> is it a bad strategy at all to be looking for a spoiler for the party as a whole? >> it's not a bad strategy. in sports you play until the clock says 0:00. only in politics do they say until you've got enough delegates, drop out. >> maybe you want your bigger team to win ultimately. >> and sometimes you're running for presidents and stimgz you are sometimes you're running for higher public speaking fees. >> you got to win it to win it. >> rebring in rnc chairman, i feel like we're doing it again, it's tuesday. must be time for rice. >> i appreciate you having me. >> like i said -- >> go ahead. >> go ahead. >> i was going to say give me an -- >> i have my -- >> we're having a little mixup with our delay on the satellite. let's talk illinois. fill me in on what the republican electorate looks like in the state of illinois and i know there's sort of a north/south difference so explain that for us as well. >> well, it's like a lot of states. you have the one huge city with the metropolitan area and everywhere else. you have a chicago and a chicago suburb area. you've got milwaukee and the surrounding area, where i come from, and everywhere else and you have the same thing in illinois. it's an important contest, i agree with what you all were chatting about before i got on. i think it's an important day in the republican primary. it's a huge amount of delegates for one state and these guys are battling it out and they are going basically one on one, so i think that today's outcome will be important. >> all right, so let's talk about the campaign trail yesterday, as we look backward a little bit. this is what governor romney said about the economy improving. listen. >> i believe the economy is coming back, by the way. we'll see what happens. it's had ups and downs. i think it's finally coming back. the economy always comes back after a recession, of course. there's never been one that we didn't recover from. the problem is, this one has been deeper than it needed to be, and a slower recovery than it should have been by virtue of the policies of this president. >> if, in fact, ultimately this election everywhere, not just in the state of illinois is a vote on the economy, is that a misstep in the message from the governor? >> i see. well -- >> what do you mean? >> i don't know, soledad. what's that? >> you said forgive me, what do you mean when you say "you see." to me to say the economy is improving might be a bad strategy, right, because if everyone's going to vote on the economy, wouldn't that kind of give an advantage a little bit to the obama campaign? >> well, i don't want to put words in the governor's mouth. i'm not sure exactly what he was referring to but obviously according to the department of labor the employment number according to their numbers is going down. i dispute whether that's an accurate depiction of where americans are at today. i happen to think americans aren't better off today than they were three or four years ago, that's the issue whether or not barack obama fulfilled the p promises he made to the american people. not whether or not the employment number would be better in march or february than november and december. the unemployment number is lower than it was in january and december but doesn't take away from the fact we're nowhere near number one where we need to be or number two where barack obama promised we will be. that's a very important distinction when it comes to making the case to the american people, and so that's kind of where i'm at, and putting that in context with what governor romney said i think it squares. i don't know where that's coming from or the context but i think that would be my best guess for where he's coming from. >> senator santorum had a gaffe on the campaign trail yesterday as well. he said this about the unemployment rate. >> i don't care what the unemployment rate's going to be. doesn't matter to me. my campaign doesn't hinge on unemployment rates and growth rates. there's something more foundational that's going on here. >> and then he clarified with this. >> of course i care about the unemployment rate. i want the unemployment rate to go down. i'm saying my candidacy doesn't hinge on whether it goes up and down. our candidacy is about freedom. it's not about governor romney's idea that he's going to fix the economy. >> do you think that part of the stumbles that he's had of late and maybe not even just of late is that as the campaign trail is so long there's more time for people to not only get sort of tired but have to reframe and recontextualize their comments? >> you know, i don't think so, because if you're the nominee, obviously the intensity is only going to be a lot stronger and you're still going to have to campaign throughout the spring and the summer, and the fall, and so i think it's just more scrutiny, when you become the nominee, so if anything, i just think it gets even tougher, but i think that rick santorum's right. this election is about big things. it's about liberty and freedom and we've got the two-year anniversary of obama care, that's coming. this is another promise that barack obama made that prices would go down and access would go up, and reality we all know that actually prices are going up, companies are taking waivers that obama care isn't what everyone thought it would be and in fact it's the opposite, and it isn't working and it isn't improving anything, and in fact, democrats like those democrats that went to vote in ohio rejected obama care 3:1 and i think the election is going to be more about not only what the department of labor says the unemployment rate is, but it's going to be about obama care, the debt, the deficit. we've got a republican budget coming out today that's going to be a very serious document on how to get our entitlement programs and our debt under control. these are the issues i think that americans are concerned with, and i don't think our future or our present condition is better today after three years of barack obama and i think those are the big issues this campaign will be about and where we'll end up in the summer and the fall and obviously some of these things i think come and go but i think they can be explained easy taken one at a time. >> we'll be discussing that republican budget straight ahead. reice prie bus, thank you, and my apologize for the audio glitches. we'll fix that for the next time we talk which will be in a couple of days. >> youevery know. thank you, soledad. >> you never know. we get to christine romans with the headlines for us. good morning. >> good morning, thanks, sole d soledad. the fbi and the justice department launching their own investigation into the death of an unarmed 17-year-old florida high school student who was shot by a neighborhood watchman. george zimmerman told police he acted in self-defense when he shot trayvon martin. martin's family and protesters have been pressuring sanford police saying race was a factor in martin's death. newly released 911 tapes show zimmerman, a white hispanic, followed martin, who was black saying he looked "suspicious." florida's stand your ground law might prevent prosecution. we'll talk about this case with midwin charles. toulouse, france, on high alert after a shooting rampage killed four people, including three kids at a jewish school. french president on hand with a minute of silence this morning. a french government official says surveillance video shows he had a camera strapped to his chest. authorities believe the shoot something linked to two other recent ethnic attacks. police in the u.s. are stepping up their patrols around synagogues and other jewish institutions. new york police commissioner ray kelly says they're concerned about copycat attacks. >> we have a significant jewish population in this city and we have to take that into account. we know that we're at the top of the terrorist target list, so we are concerned about the so-called copycat syndrome. >> kelly says there is no specific intelligence about any active threat. house republicans will release their 2013 budget today. it cuts taxes and calls for just two individual tax brackets, 10% and 25%. it would also end the alternative minimum tax a measure initially aimed at the wealthy and now squeezes millions of middle class americans. at 7:30, soledad talks with representative jason chaffetz and democrat chris van holen for t the response. dow futures are down 60 points. european and asian markets down overnight after disappointing auto sales in china. big thing in the u.s. is the report on housing starts due later. economists hope it shows housing activity at a three-month high. live in london, queen elizabeth ii is marking her diamond jubilee, celebrating 60 years on the throne. she'll give a speech to both houses of parliament. the tradition dates back to the 16th century. the jubilee celebrations will last through june. peyton manning taking his talents to the mile-high city. he told his agent to finalize contract negotiations with the denver broncos. once manning signs it's expected the bronco also try to trade current starting q.b. tim tebow. >> big deal there. big deal there. my parents went to see the queen's silver jubilee. >> really? >> yes and brought us back silver pendants to mark the day. >> since the 16th century, quite a tradition. still ahead on "starting point" we told you that the fbi is now investigating that racially charged shooting death of trayvon martin. going to break down the case and tell you where it goes from here. also our get real. the tsa pats down a toddler in a wheelchair. did they cross the line? 3 million new ipads sold in just four days, 3 million in four days. but the new gadget might be too hot to handle. rumor is the ipad is overheating. we'll discuss that this morning. we leave you with roland martin's playlist, the brand new heavies. i like it. ♪ i like it, say yeah ♪ yeah i want healthy skin for . 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[ yelling ] >> you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> all right, what is your -- >> there's gon shots. >> you just heard gunshots? >> yes. >> how many? >> just one. >> gosh, every time i hear that gunshot it is shocking. neighborhood watch volunteer george zimmerman claimed he acted in self-defense when he shot trayvon martin. the family believes race was a factor. he is a 17-year-old african-american boy. the justice department will look into that, the civil rights division is picking up the investigation and that could mean that zimmerman could face hate crime charges. joining us this morning, joining the panel is criminal defense attorney midwin charles. nice to have you with us. >> thank you. >> let's talk about the department of justice stepping in r in, the civil rights bureau. >> they're going to be looking at whether or not this was a hate crime so they will be look at the actions and activities of george zimmerman. a hate crime is a traditional crime but with bias, murder, arson or traditional crimes but a hate crime has an additional element which is bias and the federal government has an interest in protecting americans from hate crimes because they believe that it's something that lends itself towards terrorism because most people say why would the federal government want to step in. one is a hate crime and two is