Transcripts For CNNW Piers Morgan Tonight 20120702 : compare

Transcripts For CNNW Piers Morgan Tonight 20120702



>> it's as racy as ever. >> i don't know if you can say it on primetime cnn. >> one thing you thought he would never see him do. good evening. oliver stone won his first oscar over 30 years ago. he has been turning heads every since with ground-breaking and controversial tunes. his latest film is savages. he is opinionated. oliver stone. i am excited about this, because i have been a huge fan of yours for a long time. i don't usually say that. it's an american thing to say, but we are british and we hide things. i like the provocative under current to them. you don't really take prisoners, do you? >> no, i try to be a politician. i try to be diplomatic. i don't want to offend people and i don't look for fights because you know what they end up in, it's not pretty. what i am interested in is curious about the truth and i don't want to run away from what i know. somebody says if you want to lead with a question and say i can't run from the truth, as least maybe they can phrase it better. >> if you google your name, almost everything that comes up on the first page says controversial. >> not really. there is a body of work that stands up. >> do you mind that? >> yes, i do. because it comes and goes, you know. it's like the weather. it doesn't mean anything. it's the long-term implications. my work is, i think, good. you go back and look at the film a second and third time a few years later, you may say i don't know why everybody got so upset about that silly thing, but the truth is there's a movie with a dramatic core and great characters. it's fun. >> i was fascinated, and your father and mother sound like charismatic people, and you said both of them are slightly crazy and mad, and they are divorced. you likened movies to the divorce process. is there a theme you see? >> that is clever to go there. i thought we would talk about the beautiful blake lively -- >> well -- >> my own life is, i have not hidden it. i have written about it, and i talked about it, and my parents were extremely colorful people, dramatic and strong, and my mom is still alive today. and probably watching. so you know, it was a wonderful story, and it did hurt. at 14 years old you go off to a boarding school, and you are english and you disappear and you lose because you are the only child that the family does separate, and then it was not long before i was in vietnam and a marine and all these things. i miss the family live and i am trying to reconstitute one to some degree. >> your mom, has she been your biggest fan and critic over the years? >> she thinks so. >> i have an interesting relationship and on going one. it's contrairy. families are difficult. >> what do you think you got from your parents, both of them? let's get the politics. >> from mom, i got a great sense of love, emotion, affection. universal forgiveness. and my dad, i would say i got a sober intelligence, a sense of looking at things and not falling into the fashion, but thinking for yourself as much as possible. >> hard-working, passionate and independent and slightly crazy. this is what everybody ever worked for you says is working for you is like. >> that's nice. >> i don't think all of them are positives. >> i worked for the most part, 98% of them well, and it's been a rich life. people have brought enormous things to me because i have been open to them and not closed. >> which of all the actors you have worked with has been the best? >> kevin costner is different from anthony hopkins, they are like night and day but they are both extraordinary to work with, and tom cruise is as different as collin farrell, but i enjoy them both tremendously. >> charlie sheen? >> he was a young man when i worked with him on two films, and on both films, he was quite different. he was a dreamy quality in platoon that i loved, and in "wall street," it was more cosmopolitan, definitely. >> when he had his mad period last year, and i know you are not any longer close to him -- >> i lost track charlie in the mid-80s -- >> i think he lost track in the mid-80s. >> i did see him four months ago, and he was delightful to everybody. he remembered everything, and we laughed about some of the incidents in the forest. >> who could out party who? you or charlie? >> at that -- at my peak, we had fun in new york. i would have to say, charlie -- collin farrell can out party all of us. >> that's what i heard. i heard this about him. >> in the old days. >> all of you at your peak, who would be the greatest guest -- >> julia lewis, and woody harrelson, and tom sizemore -- tommy lee jones, and they are fun. it's great to party with them. most of them were fun. >> let's turn to "safages." >> welcome to the recession, boys. you should be grateful you have a product people still want. >> you say you don't mind if your envelope gets a little thin. >> you guys, you have a clean business. there is no problems. but there ain't no ben and john without dennis, so my envelope stays the same. >> it's a fascinating film. i watched it, not knowing what to expect. it's great acting in it and a great theme of these two hippy character brothers. they build this amazing thing, and it's the nice end of the drugs industry, isn't it? they collide with the nasty end, and that's the vile drug end. you have been no stranger to drugs and spoke vocaling about it. what was your purpose of making the movie? what do you hope to achieve? all your movies have a purpose. >> it's a pretty heart-edged -- it's like writing a book. you said you didn't know what was going to happen next, and it's a wild ride and it's an improbable situation, because we don't know about the present day temporary marijuana industry, and these growers are growing it simi legally, and they are selling it out of state and instate, which is legal, and the cartel, and in a hypothetical fiction, he wants to move in like a walmart would move in on a different business and take it over and partner with them and take over the techniques. >> you have been to south america and you have been outspoken how they treat the drug war. what is the simplistic answer to the drug war? >> it's not going away. it has gotten huge. >> it has not worked -- >> the mexican economy would die without it, and it's bigger than tourism, and it's bigger than oil and remission from their mexican immigrants back to their countries. >> do you -- what do you do, given the importance like mexico's -- >> if you declared -- if there were no war on drugs, the mexican economy would dry up. you would have to move in a direction to decriminal eyes it, first of all. in america, we are suffering greatly. not only do we have a huge dea with a huge budget, and we made enemies and made them into narco states. and sometimes they are in for marijuana, and various charges, and they have nothing to do with punishment. it's a medical issue. i think we have to move to decriminalization and legalization. >> let's take a break and come back and talk about "savages," and politics, and maybe religion. >> we want to talk about the film. tonight, the always tkwraed for life, for money, for love and knowledge, marked the upward surge of mankind, and greed, mark my words -- >> do you ever wish you had not that particular scene, the greed is good scene? >> no, it's powerful. it's a movie, it works, and it still does. it sets up what is going on in our system right now. the vietnam movies, too, it doesn't mean there will be a change in society if it's successful. what happen is i couldn't believe it when i went back to do "wall street, money never sleeps," the numbers of hundreds of millions became billions of dollars in these corporations. >> the banks were doing what they were doing in the '80s. >> who stops them? >> the crash stops them. >> nobody went to jail. >> the problem is, we are in another place. like on the war in tkrurbgsz it's the same thing. we have gotten into a huge amount, nobody can figure out how to stop the hurricane. >> when you see the country trillions in debt and everybody skaubleing over what is a -- >> $16 trillion in debt means nothing to me, what means something to me is the unemployment figure. we need to get people working, and we need to spend money in a good and positive productive infrastructure way, and not on i think i was a writer in my head. after the war, more of a director could see things i hadn't seen before. i wanted to put things in visual terms as well. >> about the drug war, isn't it? i think your theme about war generally throughout your movies is incredibly important actually. as someone who's watched them and enjoyed them and understood what you're trying to get at. i think you talking about the reality of war makes a big difference. you're one of the few who can actually talk from experience. >> i made three vietnam movies. i loved them all. they were "born on the fourth of july." "heaven and earth." i also did "salvador." about the central american wars. people watched. they praised them and this and that. you know, when we went to iran and afghanistan -- iraq and afghanistan, where was the memory? you know? it's a bizarre thing, the american ability to forget. >> let's take a break. come back and talk "savages" and also probably the least savage person in the world, your wife. problem cutting both their throats. >> well, you'll never get them together. i'm the only one who can do that. >> come on. are you really bragging about that? there's something wrong with your love story, baby. >> oliver stone's latest movie "savages." stars selma hayek, blake lively, taylor kitsch and john travolta. there's touches of all sorts of other movies. a lot of sex. >> that scene you just showed is a crucial moment because the two women, very strong in the movie, blake and selma, having a bit of a -- in the movie, blake is living with two men. >> yes. >> who she says as a young california beach girl, southern california, she says, i love both men. that's what selma's calling into question. this is an answer that you find in the end of the movie. where you know we deal with the issue of can people -- can three people live together equally. >> what do you think? >> i'm not going to give away the ending because that's a spoiler. >> what do you think? >> i think it's hard. >> impossible? >> have you tried it lately, piers? >> i've never been tempted by blake lively. >> put it this way, i think this life is a mystery. it's also a hunt for the truth. a hunt for what works for you. you express yourself as you go sometimes badly, sometimes well. you got to take both. you take the good with the bad. as my grandmother used to say. >> why disappointed? >> in the same way, 'cause there are things i wish i had done better. >> are you the kind of guy that regrets? are you able to just say -- >> i regret too much. i don't think that's necessarily -- you learn from regret. if you repeat the emotion over and over, you are flagellating yourself with self-pity. >> "savages." above all, it's a cracking thriller, isn't it? >> i think hitchcock is the ultimate filmmaker in the sense, you know, the audience doesn't want the messages and the politics. they want a good time. you know, i go to the movie because i want to have a good time. i've always tried to make movies. even if the controversial subject, as you say, like "jfk." try to make it fun to sit through. >> you essentially recalled from the word controversial. i never saw it as a negative with you. that's a good thing. to get people debating and talking. and analyzing. >> yeah, but it shouldn't be about the messenger. the old greek parable about they killed a messenger. it's silly because i'm, you know -- every time i made the movie, every time, it's been a different me that delivered a different one. so it's not the same person. it's how i change from every movie. >> how would you like to be remembered? >> what do you think? as a filmmaker. >> i would say -- yeah, i mean -- if you could jazz it up a bit, can't you? >> that's -- >> you could write your own tombstone. >> it's a pantheon of certain filmmakers. maybe 50, 60 that just have continued to deliver through time. those people are very rare. i just am very happy to be one >> nice to see you. >> nice to see you. coming up, mark wahlberg on his very naughty new movie. mark wahlberg fought his way off the mean streets of boston to successful music and acting career. he's more of a business man, producer and working to become a high school graduate. his new film "ted" is about a man and his teddy bear. this is not the kind of teddy bear you want to take your kids to. join me now, one of hollywood's hottest guys, mark wahlberg. welcome back. >> how are you, sir? >> this teddy bear. >> he's a naughty fella. >> seems so sweet. he's the most disgusting bear in history. >> my kids just do not understand why they cannot finally see one of daddy's movies. they're all over all the buses. the poster of me and the bear laughing hysterically. like, dad, it's you and a teddy bear. some of their upper classmen are like, oh, we can't wait to see "ted." looks awesome. they're really upset about it. >> what do you say? you got four kids. finally daddy who's made a lot of edgy movies makes a movie about a little cuddly bear. how do you break their little hearts? >> i told them the bear has a potty mouth. there are parts of it that i would sneak and allow them to see but my wife would be very upset with me. >> there's a brilliant scene. a scene where the teddy bear, ted, pulls this girl, who's a checkout girl in a store. and you decide you're going to try to guess the name of this girl. let's watch this clip. >> she's a cashier. >> no way, that's awesome. what's her name? >> white trash name. guess. >> mandy. >> nope. >> marilyn? >> nope. >> brittany. >> no. >> kansas. speed round, i'm going to rattle off some names. brandy, heather. channing, brianna. amber, serena. melody, dakota, sierra. bambi, crystal, samantha. autumn, ruby, taylor. tara, tammy, lauren. charlene, chantelle. courtney, misty, jenny. krista, mindy, noel, shelby. trina, reba, cassandra. nikki, kelsey, shawna. jolene, urleen, claudia. savannah, casey, dolly. kendra, kylie. chloe, devon. emmalou, becky? >> no. >> wait, was it any one of those names with a "lynn" after it? >> yes. >> i got you. brandy lynn. >> tammy lynn. >> ah! >> now, there are a few things about that scene. one is there are so many trashy girl's names in this country, aren't there? secondly, seth macfarland, who's the genius behind this movie, he says you got this in one take. you came in, you didn't need any cue cards, no prompting. you just came in and went. is that true? >> yes. well, you're supposed to know your lines. it was the most difficult piece of dialogue to memorize because there's nothing to connect it to. it's just 57 random names. i never thought it would make it in the movie. the big reason was if i just said it, it would take two or three minutes. i asked him, can we do it like a game show formula where i try to rattle them off as fast as possible and get them out in a timely fashion so it will actually make it in the movie? when i did it, he just absolutely loved it. >> did you get it right every time? >> yes. >> okay, how? >> a lot of practice. you know, i spent eight weeks before i started shooting reading the script out loud. i always know all my lines before we get to the set. that was the hardest piece of dialogue to memorize. >> it's extraordinary art to be able to do that. it's also incredible dedication. last time you were on the show, i got great feedback to the back-story that you bring. before you even get to making movies. but the one thing i came away from is you had in changing your life around the work ethic you brought to everything you now do. incredibly impressive. nothing tells it better than this. seth macfarland says about what you did that single scene. he's the single most prepared human bing. it's astonishing. not much he can't do. extraordinarily versatile. such a humble guy. he's not showy about it. you're not. you're not. it's an amaze thing. you can do that kind of thing in one hit. it shows proper dedication. >> well, it's your job, you know? i've worked with many actors who have been paid a lot of money. they show up and they don't know their lines. >> any names? >> yeah, plenty. i'll tell you when we stop. but it's frustrating to me because, you know, you're getting paid a lot of money. we have this amazing job. just show up and be prepared. you know? just work with russell crowe and the guy is such a pro. i mean, we had pages and pages of monologue. the guy just every single time. >> who are the best prepared? i wouldn't expect you to dish the dirt on the underprepared. who are the ones you look at and go, that's where i want to be? >> russell crowe is extremely prepared. you know, robert duvall is, you know, the consummate professional. >> "ted" is another departure for you i guess in the range of movies you're doing. do you like that versatility? >> absolutely. i try to find something completely different. to surprise audiences. to challenge myself. nothing too out there, you know. you won't see me doing any english period pieces. although i'm starting -- >> i could see you "downtown abbey." can you do that accent? >> of course. >> be a "downtown abbey" butler for a moment. >> i like the dirty, the proper [ bleep] miserable [ bleep ] [ bleep ] all that. >> i don't thing you can say this on prime-time cnn. we'll just have to have a sort of slew of bleeps. >> let me apologize. >> your mother watches this. >> well, she's not going to need to now. sorry, mom. love you. but i -- you know, i would actually love the opportunity. at the right time. i would literally go there, live there, and try to become it. i don't want to half-ass anything. i said another bad word. i apologize. >> you've turned into ted. >> ted is a bad influence. >> unruly bear. >> he is a bad influence. at least i haven't started, you know, smoking pot but he's -- it's bad. >> the movie business is a rough-tough business. what i was struck by in recent interviews, you have's made it clear that you see yourself now as a foremost businessman. everything comes away from that. explain that to me in more detail. >> i've always been business oriented. you know, i love acting. it's my first love. i want to build a business where i can also be at home a lot more. spend a lot more time with my wife and children. and, you know, i was never the kind of actor who was, you know, just sat home and waited for all the great scripts to come to me first. i just got proactive. go out there, find material, start to develop stuff. i started finding i have a lot of interests outside of the entertainment world. >> i would imagine the most excite thing for your kids is the rumors of a basketball movie with justin bieber. >> the boys are into the idea. spend a lot more time with my wife and children. and, you know, i was never the kind of actor who was, you know, just sat home and waited for all the great scripts to come to me first. i just got proactive. go out there, find material, start to develop stuff. i started finding i have a lot of interests outside of the entertainment world. >> i would imagine the most excite thing for your kids is the rumors of a basketball movie with justin bieber. >> the boys are into the idea. my daughter has moved on from justin bieber. she's still only 8. i think it's the whole see lynn the whole selena gomez thing. i think that's what it is. >> i love a rival. >> yeah. >> i think he's a talented guy. the picture your talking about doing is kind of like "color of money." playing basketball and hustling people in the streets. >> i know you're good at basketball. one of your close friends has played with you for yours has said he's never beat you. when you get on the court, you turn into an animal. >> i get pretty crazy out there. but he

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