province, the attacks killing 14 militants and five civilians, including women and children, according to a rights monitor group. the u.s.-led coalition aiming to degrade the brutal militant group's source of revenue. striking 12 oil facilities, seized by isis in eastern syria wednesday. bringing the total number of air strikes in the region to over 30. >> this is the beginning of a long effort. there will be more. there will be more. >> u.s. officials estimate that isis makes upwards of $2 million a day by smuggling oil, refining it and producing 500 barrels a day and selling them on the black market. u.s. officials hope the air strikes in the remote countryside would lessen the risk of civilian casualties. a concern raised after the initial air strikes fell upon densely populated areas like raqqa. an activist from raqqa says the isis fighters began moving into civilian homes two weeks ago. and wednesday's strike, the u.s. flew only about half a dozen f-15 aircraft. saudi arabia and the united arab emirates flying more. now belgium and the netherlands are expressing a commitment to join the u.s. and five arab nations in the attack against isis. >> u.s. said its going after the isis pocketbook with the strikes, but the question is that the strikes against small crude modular oil refineries is accomplishing that because the refineries operate on such a small scale. a market ploifrt says the real money comes from taking crude oil directly out of the ground and smuggling it across the border into turkey and iraq. the ohm way to stop is to target the trucks. >> and the best way to stop it is to go after those who are buying it. that's why military only gets you so far. many other aspects of what needs to change in order to squash the threat. but the bombings going on now, we'll see where it leads, joe johns, thank you very much for reporting this morning. president obama will be back in the united nations this morning, calling on more nations to join the 40-country coalition in the fight against isis. let me tell you the list is growing. british prime minister david cameron talking tough, saying britain will take part in the air strikes. and the terror sweep nabs nine suspects in london, reportedly among them this radical preacher by the name of anjim choudari. michelle kosinski has more. >> with the world gathered at the u.n. deeply concerned about the threat of terrorism and what do we do about it, president obama's goals is to expand the coalition against isis, get more commitments from countries and to pass a security council resolution to try to stop the flow of foreign fighters. so far, he's done it. president obama chairing a u.n. security council meeting. >> resolutions alone will not be enough. we're going to have to translte words into deeds. >> his resolution, to try to staunch the flow of foreign terrorist fighters passed unanimously. while belgium and the netherlands joined the fight against isis, both likely to send war planes. the uk calling parliament back in session this friday to vote. so it, too, can begin air strikes. >> what we are doing is legal. it's right. >> at the same time, another video emerged showing the beheading of a hostage. a french hiker kidnapped by isis in algeria. another country, another region, affected. members of the arab coalition battling isis from the air made the urgency clear. the king of jordan. >> it is not an arab or muslim fight any more. it affects every delegate here and beyond. it is the fight of our times. >> but the strongest words hit what the president called the cancer of isis. calling for action at the root of it. >> no god condones this terror. no grievance justifies these actions. there can be no reasoning. no negotiation with this brand of evil. the only language understood by killers like this is the language of force, it is time for the world, especially muslim communities, to explicitly, forcefully and consistently reject the ideology of organizations like al qaeda and isis. today i ask the world to join in this effort. >> as always with something like a u.n. resolution, the question is, how do you realistically enforce it? president obama emphasized that it is legally binding and it requires countries to actively prevent the recruiting, financing of terrorists and to share information. >> catch, shame and often prosecute. that's what works best there. this is the starting point, michelle kosinski thank you very much. what happened overnight? what does it mean in terms of the campaign against isis? cnn military analyst retired lieutenant colonel rick francona joins us, thank you for always being here. you'll have to start wearing cnn on your chest, for good cause. overnight, a lot of new dots on the ground, areas that were struck. the basic information, in the north and south of syria, we're talking about oil refineries and production areas, in the middle, what we're calling command and control, trucks and different types of infrastructure, the u.s. believes, the coalition believes is important to the movements and destructive capabilities of isis. what do you see specifically in this? >> this is going after the oil infrastructure of syria. all the oil fields are to the north or center of the dot. deir ezzor is the center of the oil industry. the targets for the mobile or bolted-together, makeshift production facilities, the refineries, make good targets because they're out in the desert, minimum risk to civilian infrastructure and civilian casualties. >> how effective are they, in terms of one can you hit them easily? and two, is that getting at the oil trade? >> it takes away some of their trade they do on the black market. we hit the finance center in raqqa on the first night. now we're hitting the oil that feeds those, that finance center. they're easy targets to hit because they're out in the middle of a desert. you're using precision-guided munitions, so it's a good target and effectively hit by the arab coalition. >> and that's right. that's a part of the headlines this morning is that the arabs are doing more of the bombing than the u.s. here. we'll have to see which way the coalition goes. different branch of the story. look, we're just starting to hear what happens when the bombs hit the ground. admiral kirby from the pentagon came out and said we believe they've been successful. civilians are going to die, the wrong places will be hit. how does that affect what you do with the air campaign? >> you try to minimize civilian casualties as best can you. isis knows that. there's social media from inside syria, showing the guys moving out of their headquarters, moving from concentrations of troops into civilian areas. >> had you to expect that. they wear masks. >> they had two weeks to do this. we announced we were going to be conducting air strikes, right after we did this, we saw them disbursing their assets, parking trucks further away, or further apart. very expensive process. >> when do you start killing isis members? >> we are. they went after a training camp the other day. on the first night, some of the video released by the defense department showed the one field where they put a variety of weapons, that was a training camp. those were basically troops in the open. >> when you target people, you wind up killing people, so the right people, the wrong people. and supporting what's happening on the ground. >> ideally you would have a a ground force that follows up. you would prepare the battlefield with air and follow up with a ground force. >> the coalition is soft there. >> we don't have anybody in syria to do this. in iraq this will work and you see it starting to work. because weeks ago we saw isis running down these valleys really on a rampage. and we announced the air strikes, the air strikes were able to blunt that. if you look at the lines as they were two weeks ago and the lines as they are today, we blunted that offensive. we've got to get the ground forces trained up and get them in there and start rolling these people back. >> how effective was what we did to the khorasan group here near aleppo that the u.s. did all by themselves? what do we know? >> that was primarily done with cruise missiles, tomahawks and it looked to be pretty effective. although they're not releasing a whole lot of details. they said that they achieved their desired goal. >> but the word you hear is they did what they wanted to do. >> they did kill a lot of people there. >> how long do you keep doing this? is this a phase or just what it is for the next dozens of months. >> ideally, this would be a campaign that last 30, 45 days and prepare the ground operation. unfortunately in syria, we don't have that luxury. in iraq we're going to have that. in syria, it may be keeping up until we get some ground force that can get in there. >> there's no question that the free syrian army, the army has to be in quotes, there's nothing going on there yet, they say they're vetting, training, who knows how long it will take. do you have confidence that the iraqi army, with coalition support, can get it done? >> i do. i think once the iraqi army gets its leadership problem taken care of. there are 26 brigades, i think the iraqi army with the peshmerga can do it in iraq. syria, another question. >> lieutenant-colonel, thank you very much. a lot of news to you this morning, let's get to john berman. >> president obama shifting today from coalition building against isis to a potential global health disaster. talking about ebola. the president will focus on the virus at a speech at the united nations later this morning. the security council passed a resolution last week urging sierra leone and guinea and liberia to speed up their response to the outbreak and called on united nations members to provide urgent help with field hospitals, staff and supplies. the manhunt for the suspected killer of a pennsylvania state trooper is now in it's 13th day. police say they have actually spotted eric frein multiple times from far away, but the densely wooded area where he is hiding has made it so difficult for officers to capture him, he dashes away. the 31-year-old frein allegedly ambushed two troopers, killing one and wounding another. hundreds of ferguson, missouri residents packed a college room speaking out to justice department officials about their experience with police arasment in their town. several residents shared stories of being targeted. federal officials did not give a timetable into their investigation of the police department following the shooting of michael brown. apple is pulling its ios 8 update. users were complaining they could not access cell service or the touch i.d. fingerprint sensor. it's unclear if the problem affects certain models or certain wireless carriers. and social media exploding with the reports of bent iphone 6 models, saying if you put it in your skinny jeans, that the iphone 6 might bend. apple has not commented on this problem. >> that is a clearly bent iphone. >> of course, when you twist the phone like this. it may cause it to bend. >> why does everything have to be a gate? 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>> this group used to be known as the al qaeda in the mugrab centrist zone. they had been part of the armed islamic group, the most radical of the algerian factions during the syrian civil war. the groups that tended to move away from al qaeda and towards isis are those that really don't accept al qaeda's more strategic use of vice violence. and like isis' indiscriminate approach to violence. when you look at the brutal attack, something carried out by a group that had a preexisting infrastructure. it wasn't just a fly-by-night organization that should make westerners overseas feel a little bit more secure. >> you have these terror organizations and then you have the threat of lone wolves, we know isis on sunday released this audio basically calling on people to you know, kill, maim, hurt, westerners, europeans. and you know you think of these as we call them lone wolves, right? you think of the tsarnaev brothers in boston and the major nadal at fort hood. you're surprised there aren't more examples of these people. >> absolutely. if there's any good news about 9/11-style plots, post-9/11 is that they're very, very difficult, not impossible, but very difficult to carry out. lone wolf attacks, someone picking up someone randomly, stabbing them, running over with a car, which is what isis has urged, is easy to do. the plot is in his head there aren't the opportunities to eavesdrop or foil the financing. and there's not an opportunity to break up a conspiracy. it's very, very difficult to prevent. the ultimate solution is countering this radical ideology and the president was right yesterday in his u.n. speech to call on the muslim community to do more to counter this extremism in their own midst. >> how effective, staying with you, how effective do you think the unanimous resolution that was passed yesterday to stem the flow of the foreign fighters, how effective will that really be? >> time will tell, brooke, as the president said, words are one thing, but what counts is deeds. i think the good news here is if the whole purpose of these beheadings has been to dissuade the united states in the west from going after isis, i think it's having the opposite effect. the french are considering expanding their air strikes into syria. we talked about what the british are going to do. the coalition expanded yesterday with the inclusion of the belgians and the dutch. i think the world community has been seized by this and the president is right to say the only language that isis understands is the language of force. and so you have the united states, western europe and now critically, muslim sunni states joining the fight against isis. i think it will make the difference. >> so far, the fight has stayed in that part of the world, specifically syria and iraq. i mean daveed, what would you say to american who is would worry, especially now with the third wave of pretty intense air strikes, specifically in syria. that these people from this part of the world, will not retaliate back home? >> well, there's always concerns that when there's a military operation, that the kind of fallout could spread elsewhere. but over the course of the past 13 years, when the u.s. and its allies have been declaring the war on terror, there's always been the risk of blow-back and it's been pretty minimal. the reasons why our number one for group operations, that's where you have a chance to disrupt it based on good intelligence work and law enforcement. as to lone wolves, i agree with clark, it's difficult to stop a lone wolf attacker. one reason we tend to see so few lone wolf attacks, is because group dynamics help radicalization, people egging each other on. it's more difficult for one person to amp themselves up for an attack. >> daveed ross and clark kent ervin, thank you so much for your time. coming up, hillary clinton speaking out to cnn and weighing in on president obama's strategy in this fight against isis, what did they tell us? we'll share it with you. also ahead this major break in the case about missing university of virginia student, hannah graham, we now know the suspect, the last person police believe was with hannah before she vanished, is now in custody. multiple states away. 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or will he waive it and come back to virginia voluntarily. i think that's what the day has to hold. back to you. >> so interesting as you point out, jean, this is the answer to only one question. where is jesse matthew. the bigger question, where is hannah graham, that we still need to learn. jean, thanks so much. we get into the "bleacher report," derek jeter, set to take the field tonight at yankee stadium for the last time. it is such a major moment, the heavens may not allow the rain of the best shortstop on the best team ever to end. it doesn't matter what he thinks. andy scholes has more this morning in the bleacher report, the weeping of the heavens, andy. may come into play. >> really, really? >> everyone is sad to see jeter go. are you going to go to the game? >> no, no, too big a moment. i don't want it to happen. >> well lend someone your umbrella, as you guys know, 100% chance of rain today in new york and that's causing mass panic because tonight is supposed to be derek jeter's final farewell at yankee stadium. the cheapest ticket to get into the game still going for $250, despite the weather. now more than likely will not make this game up if it's rained out because it won't affect seeding for the playoffs. now if it were to be canceled, jeter's last game at yankee stadium would have been yesterday, when he went 0 for 4 and he was left on deck when the game ended. let's hope they get the game in tonight. a grand jury deciding not to indict nascar driver tony stewart in the death of kevin ward junior, he climbed out of his car to confront stewart during a race in new york last month. prosecutors revealed that ward had marijuana in his system, enough, they say, to impair his judgment. in a statement, stewart says this has been the toughest and most emotional experience of my life. and it will stay with me forever. i'm very grateful for all the support i've received and continue to receive. guys, back to jeter, i saw an amazing stat, tonight's game in the bronx will be the first jeter has ever played there with the yankees eliminated from postseason contention. it's amazing thing, about 20 years he's never played a home game where it didn't have some sort of bearing on where they land in the playoffs. incredible. >> too bad it's going to be pouring down rain. >> most believe that the yankees decided not to enter the playoffs this year. because doing it out of respect for derek jeter. don't want to overshadow him. >> which is why they didn't last year, two years in a row. >> jeter was injured last year. >> that's right, he was. >> that doesn't matter to a hater, though. >> he's one of the great shortstops ever. >> one of the great. >> cal ripken called, a little bit upset of your characterization of derek jeter. >> i said the best shortstop on the best team. don't let the facts get in the way of a harsh opinion. the clintons squarely in the president's corner when it comes to taking on isis. what they had to say to cnn about that and baby talk, too. and anger over the michael brown police shooting in ferguson, missouri has still not subsided. protesters are demanding that officer be charge and that the county prosecutor resign. the prosecutor is now answering critics, talking to cnn exclusively, we'll share it coming up on "new day." 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>> i think it's quite significant. and it certainly threatens to change the whole landscape in the middle east. redraw national boundaries, crash national governments. >> that of course, former president bill clinton, speaking to cnn's erin burnett about the dangers of isis. at a special town hall last night. the former president says he supports the current president's decision to launch air strikes against the terrorists inside syria. the former president's wife, hillary clinton, you may have heard of her, also came out in support of the decision, telling cnn that the situation demanded this kind of robust response. joining us to talk about this and all things clinton is the expert on the subject, maggie haberman, a senior political writer for politico.com. it's interesting over the last several days there have been a lot of questions about how would europe react to the air strikes in syria, how would russia react? how would the clintons react? it's almost as if such a thing were important in and of itself. i want to play more bit of sound. let's listen. >> i think the president gave a very clear explanation and robust defense of the actions he has ordered with respect to the terrorists in iraq and syria. the situation now is demanding a response. and we're seeing a very robust response. >> i think that this strategy that the president has adopted has a chance to succeed. i support what they're doing. >> obviously both clintons have vast experience in foreign policy. maggie, i get the sense that's not why we care what their opinion is here. explain to me why this is so important, ploilically. >> hillary clinton is seen as the dominant front-runner for the democratic nomination for 2016, in case you didn't know. what she thinks about foreign policy is incredibly important. she served in the administration during her book tour she was critical of the president on certain issues of foreign policy. she pointed out where they had disagreed, mainly on how to handle syria early on during the civil war. so hearing her supporting what he is doing is very important. it's important because she clearly is mindful of the fact that there is one president at a time and she is not trying to set future policy. >> syria is the issue that she chose in her book to show where there is distance between herself and the president. >> yes, and in her book, she stated it very sort of calmly, smoothly. it was a disagreement. in an interview she did over the summer, with the "atlantic" she was much more pointed on this. described the not arming syrian rebels early on in the conflict, which she has argued at times could have helped prevent the spread of isis was a failure. that was a very pointed word. you didn't hear anything like that. and in the interview with cnn she was given the opportunity to say i got it right and she declined to do that. she said we could argue this all day long, but at the end of the day, i can't know any more than you would, if it would have made a difference. >> this goes to show she has to be careful of how she deals with the president. you wrote a very interesting article in "politico" recently, with the title "it's complicated" the relationship between the obama team and the clinton team. explain why it is so complicated? >> sure, a year ago at this time syria has been a constant thread in this relationship. a year ago before she left the clinton global initiative she was working the phones, trying to sell them on a congressional authorization that the president at the time was planning to seek. he later postponed it. but she went on to be critical this summer, she then walked that back a bit. said i didn't mean to attack him and obviously we saw the statement she gave yesterday. she needs the president's base of support. she needs not to lose democrats, liberals who backed obama and obama's some advisers anyway, see her as his biggest lifeline for protecting his legacy when he's out of office. >> what's the big unknown, the democratic coalition if it's a democratic coalition or an obama coalition. and if hillary clinton if she is the nominee, can put it back together again. >> that's exactly right. right now we're not seeing a huge threat to hillary clinton and the democratic primary, she has to suspect will face some challenge the she's in a much stronger position than six years ago. she needs democratic base voters to turn out in a general election if she runs and that's where you need to see the coalition hold. >> i want to show one picture this was a picture taken by the official white house photographer of president obama and former president clinton. there are a lot of people noted here, look at the body language there. is that a happy relationship? >> folded arms. >> before we go, let's talk about the news that hasn't happened yet, but it will very soon. >> what are you talking about? >> chelsea clinton is going to have a baby. you know that as any grandparents, protective grandparents, the clintons are absolutely thrilled and i think they're looking forward to this a lot. the timing is interesting there are a lot of democrats around the country who want hillary clinton and bill clinton on the trail for the next five weeks. you know they may be grandparents instead because that's what they want to do. >> i think you will see hillary clinton spend less time on the trail than you'll see bill clinton. they made it clear they're ecstatic about this pending grandchirld, which i think we'll see sooner rather than later. i think you will see bill clinton out there a lot. he among other things, can't help himself, loves being on the campaign trail and i think he really wants to help the democrats retain the senate. >> i'm sure he also wants to be a grandfather, also. he'll fit that in, i'm sure. >> maggie haberman, great to have you with us. if you're interested in politics or the clintons, you're doing an enormous disservice if you're not reading maggie's stuff in "politico" every day. coming up, the protesters in ferguson, missouri, demanding that the county prosecutor step aside. he is speaking out to cnn exclusively, next. righabreva can heal itcold sore, in as few as two and a half days when used at the first sign. without it, the virus spreads from cell to cell. abreva penetrates deep, and starts to work immediately to block the virus and protect healthy cells. you could heal your cold sore fast, as fast as two and a half days when used at the first sign. learn more at abreva.com mara: don't tough it out, knock it out fast. with abreva. it's time to bring it out in the open. it's time to drop your pants for underwareness, a cause to support the over 65 million people who may need depend underwear. show them they're not alone and show off a pair of depend. because wearing a different kind of underwear, is no big deal. join us. support the cause and get a free sample of depend at underwareness.com there it is... this is where i met your grandpa. right under this tree. ♪ (man) some things are worth holding onto. they're hugging the tree. 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>> well a couple reasons. one is that forever we have taken all homicide cases to the grand jury. >> prosecutor bob mccullough has done few interviews since his office got the case. >> you don't just walk away from a case because you're catching a lot of grief over it. i can be fair and i have been fair. >> people are still angry about this. and worry that there is a bias. because your father was killed in the line of duty, a police officer, and was killed by an african-american person. >> right. all of that is correct and all of that is irrelevant in terms of whether there's any bias or prejudice on my part. i know what it's like to lose a loved one to violence, i know what that feeling is. if it causes me to lean one way or the other, it causes me to lean towards victims of violence. >> did you think ever about making a grand gesture by stepping down from this case and letting a special prosecutor take over? >> there's a very vocal group, don't get me wrong. that thinks i'm the devil and shouldn't be on this case. but when you look at the ones making the allegations, look behind it. >> he insists there's no secret behind the grand jury proceedings. >> it's taken longer than we anticipated on each witness and so it's likely to go to the end of october. into the first part of november. maybe as far as the middle of november. >> he says the seven men and five women selected randomly by a judge are hearing from every witness, seeing every piece of evidence. all of which he says will eventually be made public when a decision is made on whether to indict officer darren wilson. a community desperate for answers, these protesters say they will not rest. >> everybody is here for mike brown. everybody is here for justice. >> it's justice they demand. no matter how long it takes. anna cabrera, cnn, ferguson, missouri. so the issue with the prosecutor and all of the people wanting him to recuse himself. we were remembering that the officer himself, darren wilson he did opt to testify in front of the grand jury about a week ago. a lot of people weren't sure if he would or if he wouldn't. if it help or hurt his case. no word as far as whether he's indicted. >> highly unusual. probably won't know for at least a couple of months. that's not unusual for grand jury. but testifying before it as the defendant is very unusual. because it is very tilted towards the prosecution. that's why everybody always comments about how easy it is to get indicted. >> there are no defense attorneys behind closed doors. and this is the prosecutor's show. he decides what evidence he wants to put. he is supposed to put evidence of both sides in. who knows, it's a secret proceeding. but it changes the balance of what's going on in the grand jury considerably. because usually the bar is very low, they don't hear the defense's side. >> but this time they have. >> that may complicate the situation. for the prosecutor to go to the grand jury is not surprising in this situation. everybody says you could have just done it yourself through felony complaint. but where people are so activated, you should know the ferguson situation, there's a lot of unrest there. it's not covered as much, but still going on. not surprising the situation. >> we're watching a huge interest in what's happening there in missouri. we're going to stay on the situation with president obama, because he is set now to address the ebola crisis this morning. before the united nations. wasn't just there for isis, he also has to chair a meeting of the security council. the ebola situation front and center and it comes as the world health organization says 2900 people have died in west africa from the outbreak. but one woman is actually working to fight the virus in liberia. she has set audiotape makeshift hospital in her home. she is single-handedly saved most of her family when they contracted the disease. senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen, has the story for you. >> two months ago, this woman's father got ebola. >> he had fever. >> three hospitals turned her father away. she had little choice, she took her dad home to treat him herself. within days three more people in the house got sick. and fatu, a 22-year-old nursing student, had to become a one-woman ebola hospital. >> i treated them all by myself. no one around. all by myself. all alone. >> isolating her sick loved ones in separate rooms, her mother, her father, her cousin alfred, and in there, her sister, vivian. >> you were running all around the house. >> yes. >> taking care of them. >> they must have been so sick. >> yes. they were very sick. >> incredibly, fatu didn't get sick, how she managed that will astound you. >> i developed my own protective gear. i bought black plastic bag, plastic jacket. glove. long trousers. hair cover, mask to my nose. everything. >> this is it, you're done? >> yes. >> this is how you took care of four people with ebola? >> yes. >> this is what happens when hospitals turn people away, you became inventive. >> yes. >> unfortunately, fatu's cousin, alfred, didn't pull through. but she saved her father, her sister and her mother from ebola. >> i'm very much proud of fatu for the marvelous way that she did to the power of almighty god. >> do you owe your life to her? >> more than my life. i can say god saved my life, but she saved my life, also. >> unicef heard about fatu and were inspired by her now they're teaching her trash bag method to others. >> you're quite a nurse. >> i'm proud of myself. >> and you're not even officially a nurse yet. >> no. >> cnn, liberia. >> the need is so great. the lengths that people are going to. >> trash bags. >> and that's why that story has to get more attention and they need so much help. >> we'll stay on it. a lot of big news for you this morning. so let's get to it. breaking overnight, a new round of air strikes pounding isis, blasting the terror group's oil refineries in syria to cut off funding. arab countries doing most of the work this time. dropping more bombs in the u.s. now, more allies joining the fight. >> britain will play its part. >> the united kingdom now set to vote on air strikes. as a french hostage is beheaded by an isis offshoot in retaliation. president obama pressing the world to unite against the terror group. >> there can be no reasoning, no negotiation with this brand of evil. >> the new rules he pushed through to cut isis off. >> a special edition of "new day" continues right now. >> good morning, welcome back to "new day," breaking overnight, u.s. and arab allies pounding more than a dozen isis targets in syria the latest air strikes, they're going after the isis wallet. oil facilities, partly responsible for the reported $2 million that isis takes in per day. also breaking overnight, nine men suspected of terrorist activities arrested in the uk overnight, including a prominent radical cleric who you may have seen on tv here in the u.s. we're going to go live to london for more on that in a moment. first, let's start with cnn's joe johns in washington. good morning, joe. >> good morning, chris, u.s. officials said they tried to be very careful to avoid civilian casualties in situations like this. but it's almost inevitable. the latest count after air strikes in syria, 14 militants killed along with five civilians. and the offensive against isis is only beginning. >> overnight in syria, another wave of air strikes targeting isis headquarters, a training camp, oil refineries and checkpoints in the deir ezzor province. the attacks killing at least 14 militants, but also five civilians, including women and children, according to a rights monitor group. the u.s.-led coalition aiming to degrade the brutal militant group's source of revenue. according to u.s. officials, striking 12 oil facilities, seized by isis in eastern syria wednesday. bringing the total number of air strikes in the region to over 30. >> this is the beginning of a long effort. there will be more. there will be more. >> u.s. officials estimate that isis makes upwards of $2 million a day by smuggling oil refining it and producing some 500 barrels a day. then selling them on the black market. u.s. officials hope these air strikes in the remote countryside would lessen the risk of civilian casualties. a concern raised after the initial air strikes fell upon densely populated areas like raqqa and idlib. an activist from raqqa says the isis fighters began moving into civilian homes two weeks ago. and wednesday's strike, the u.s. flew only about half a dozen f-15 aircraft. saudi arabia and the united arab emirates flying more. now belgium and the netherlands are expressing a commitment to join the u.s. and five arab nations in the attack against isis. >> the u.s. has said it's going after the isis pocketbook with these strikes. but there is some question whether the strikes against small, crude modular oil refineries actually accomplishes that. because the refineries operate on such a small scale. market analyst has told cnn the real money for isis comes from taking crude oil directly out of the ground, smuggling it across the border into turkey and iraq. the only way to stop that is to bomb the oil fields, which could put them out of commission for years or target the trucks, which means they would need good intelligence on the ground. chris? >> even better intelligence would be who is buying the oil. john, this one, joe, one part of the mystery to figure out as the coalition takes shape. thank you very much for the reporting this morning. also breaking overnight, the uk stepping up its counterterrorism efforts on its home turf. right now we know this morning. nine men were arrested in this terror sweep in london. reportedly among the group, this radical preacher by the name of anjem choudhary. atika schubert is following this for news london. tell me about the arrests. >> this is not a new name. anjem choudhary has been interviewed by cnn several times. featured on local media and he's known as an extremist preacher. now the metropolitan police won't confirm to us that he's the one that has been arrested. but it's been widely reported in the british media he along with eight other men. the reason they've been arrested is that according to british police, they are part of a, a banned group. they haven't named the group. what we know is that anjem choudhary previously had formed al muhajiroun. an extremist group that was disbanded, but kept reappearing under several names over the years. recently as a few weeks ago we also saw anjem choudhary on the streets handing out leaflets in support of isis and the islamic caliphate. this is somebody who is very public, who is out there and probably just a matter of time. until british police actually picked him up and arrested him. >> okay. atika, thank you very much. meantime, president obama is returning to the united nations a little later this morning. he will be urging more than, we have now now 40 nations as part of the coalitionth wanting more nations to join in the fight against isis. to the white house we go, to our correspondent michelle kosinski following the diplomatic maneuvering for us. michelle, good morning to you. >> we see the world gathered, looking for solutions to this threat. to try to deal with it in the short-term and get at the root of it in the long-term. president obama went in with some goals. first, to expand this coalition against isis. to try to get some more concrete commitments from other countries and get the security council resolution passed, to try to stop the flow of foreign fighters that everyone has been so worried about. so far, he's been able to get it done. president obama chairing a u.n. security council meeting. >> resolutions alone will not be enough. we're going to have to translate words into deeds. >> his resolution, to try to staunch the flow of foreign terrorist fighters passed unanimously. while belgium and the netherlands join the fight against isis, both likely to send war planes. the uk calling parliament back in session this friday to vote. so it, too, can begin air strikes. >> what we are doing is legal. it is right. at the same time, another video emerged showing the beheading of a hostage. a french hiker kidnapped by isis in algeria. another country, another region, affected. members of the arab coalition already battling isis from the air, made the urgency clear. the king of jordan. >> it is not an arab or muslim fight any more. it affects every delegate here and beyond. it is the fight of our times. >> but the strongest words hit what the president called the cancer of isis. calling for action at the root of it. >> no god condones this terror. no grievance justifies these actions. there can be no reasoning. no negotiation with this brand of evil. the only language understood by killers like this is the language of force. it is time for the world, especially muslim communities, to explicitly, forcefully, and consistently reject the ideology of organizations like al qaeda and isis. today i ask the world to join in this effort. >> you know it's something like a u.n. resolution, you always wonder well how is this going to be enforced realistically. but president obama emphasized it is legally binding and all of these countries agree that they would now be required to actively prevent the recruiting, traveling and financing of these terrorist fighters to prosecute them, and to share information. brooke? >> and michelle kosinski at the white house, thank you very much. chris cuomo, to you. it comes down to the mandate for these actions, it's hard to secure internationally. it's been very hard to secure domestically for president obama. let's bring in senator angus king, an independent from maine, on the intelligence and armed services committee. senator, good to see you, what are your thoughts on what has happened in the war against isis? >> well, it sort of breathtaking what's happened in the last week. i have to say, listening to that speech of the president's yesterday in the u.n. i think he sort of found his leadership legs in the last few days where he's really been able to i think have some significant success in rallying international support. he made a comment in the clip you showed a few moments ago, this is a moment of real soul-searching within the muslim world. they have to decide whether they're going to stand up to this brutal perversion of their religion or whether they're going to passively sit by. and the countries in the region are the ones that are ultimately going to have to make that decision and make the fight. you mentioned a few minutes ago, you know, where is the oil being sold? you know it's being sold to other places around the middle east. and i've heard, and this isn't from the intelligence committee, this is just in open source communication, that turkey is where a a lot of that oil is going. places like turkey are going to have to make a decision. it's very hard for them politically and i suspect emotionally, but this isn't a a war of the west against islam. although that's what isis wants to make it. but as of this morning, this is going to be a long slog. but as of this morning, i think we're making some progress. >> how much information are you getting from the white house on the intelligence committee about what's happening before it happens? and how much progress do you think the president made in attracting big names to the coalition with his speech yesterday? >> well, i think he made progress yesterday with the arab states actually participating. the word they use in washington is "kinetically" a euphemism for air strikes and other actual war activities. we had, we had some of the gulf states participating yesterday, belgium and the netherlands, britain i think is going to join today, france is going to get involved. so i think they are making, they are making progress. i have to say, chris, you know, in the clip it talked about cameron calling the parliament in to vote to give him the authority. as you know, that's something i think we should be doing in our congress here. >> i was hoping you would mention that. >> i think it's a responsibility of congress to step up and put its fingers on this and say yeah, we're going to accept our constitutional responsibility and participate in this decision. >> do you think there's a sense of collective shame or should there be, watching how the uk are going about the process, versus how this congress did? no irony, that the congress isn't even in session right now. cameron calling them back, them voting, only on iraq. to make sure that there is unity and responsibility in a situation that is fraught with risk. this congress, nothing. >> well, you know, i can't disagree. i heard the clip and he said, you know, parliament is coming back into session. and you know, my thinking is, we ought to be doing the same thing. you and i have talked about this, tim kaine and i and jim inhov and nelson. i think it's going to happen, bob mendez, in charge of the foreign relations committee, in charge of this process, says he wants it make it happen. the president has been keeping us informed. the white house, war powers act. i think technically they're in compliance. i think we're going to get to it, it's really a question of timing and what the final wording is going to be. >> you know that the war powers act -- that's really just about how long the president can go it alone. the vote needed to happen already. you're already at war. there's a lot of risk. and the congress simply punted on it. even though it's saw fit to sue him for executive action, a much more penny ante issues than going to war. >> chris, you're preaching to the choir, man, i've been saying this for a month. >> you're right, senator. i am certainly not pointing to you, you want to vote. >> i don't get to set the schedule. and i think it is going to happen. but, yeah, we should have -- i think we should have had that discussion and debate. you know, there's this kind of inertia, the calendar was set. >> it's the mid terms. it's the mid terms and it's easier to just go after this guy. >> fallen into disuse, politics should stop at the water's edge. and this kind of world crisis that we're engaged in, i mean can you imagine being president of the united states this week with, with isis and the khorasan group and syria, beheadings in algeria, ebola in africa? we're, we're -- in a, this is a very, this is a moment of great crisis. some of my people say, well why should we be involved? and i guess my response is, that the good news is, we're the leading country in the world. and the bad news is, that carries with it responsibilities and we just simply can't avoid. >> that's why it should be debated and you move forward or not. with the syria's situation in the uk. they got together, the parliament voted, they said no. here we had to do the dance with the red line. it doesn't make us look strong at home or abroad in terms of how people perceive the u.s. what happened with khorasan, the u.s. went it alone. bombed the cell. took a lot of people by surprise. what do you know about specific imminent threats coming from this offshoot group of al qaeda? >> well if i told you what i did know and do know, entirely both you and i would go to jail. so i'm not going to do that. i'm going to tell you that this was a very serious threat. and i think the way to think about it is, the khorasan group were essentially strictly in the export of terrorism business. isis is you know, consolidating territory, trying to hold ground, set up a caliphate, have a country. khorasan is not into any of those things. they're into strikes at the west. and as many people as they can kill as possible. so they were a direct threat. and frankly i was glad to see those strikes. think they were the more immediate, the immediate threat. the other piece i think that's important is the strikes on those oil facilities that isis has. because that's where they're getting most of their money. but i can't really go into any detail, chris, except to tell you it was, those strikes were definitely justified. >> of course not. you're not a man who is known for being quick to violence, so if you feel it was justified. that sends the message that we're looking for here to the viewers today. senator angus king, thank you very much for joining us, i'm glad we're not going to jail. this is derek jeter's last game tonight. i'm glad i don't have to miss it, be in the hoosgow. president obama shifting today from coalition building against isis to a potential global health disaster. talking about ebola. he will focus on the virus in a speech at the united nations later this morning. the security council passed a resolution last week urging sierra leo, guinea and liberia to speed up their response to the outbreak and it called on all u.n. member nations to provide urgent help, staff and supplies. police in pennsylvania say they've spotted accused cop killer, eric frein multiple times, but the rugged terrain where he's hiding has prevented his capture. the manhunt is in its 13th day, he's wanted for the alleged ambush of two pennsylvania state troopers, killing one and wounding another. opening statements begin in the second trial of michael dunn, the florida man convicted of killing 17-year-old jordan davis after an argument over loud music. he was convicted of other crimes. prosecutors say dunn killed davis by firing a gun ten times into an suv with four teens inside. dunn was convicted by a previous jury of attempted second-degree murder, but the jury deadlocked on first-degree murder. dunn faces 60 years in prison for those convictions. the georgia father accused of intentionally leaving his toddler to die in a hot car will not face the death penalty. the cobb county district attorney said he decided not to seek the punishment after reviewing the statute. authorities say he left his 22-month-old son cooper in his suv for seven hours in june on purpose. he's charged with malice murder and felony murder. harris said he forgot the child was in the car. would the prosecutor not use the death penalty because by putting that aside it would speed up the process? for the other charges? >> a little bit. it would speed up the charges, and you also have to be careful about overcharging and set too high a bar. we've seen, for instance in the casey anthony case, sometimes when a prosecutor goes for the death penalty, the bar is so high for that jury, that much to have such overwhelming evidence, because it's not an easy decision for a jury to reach. no matter how heinous the crime and obviously the suggestions of what happened here, could be taken -- >> because you got to think, what's the best case i could make. if you overcharge, you may lose. >> pretty surprising, i mean the buzz in georgia, we don't know what we don't ultimately know what happened. but a lot of people thinking that the death penalty would be on the table and the fact that they've scrapped it now is a big deal. >> there have been some big holes blown in the prosecution's case as the process has gone along. now another big story we're following for you is what's, what we're doing as a coalition to go after isis what are they doing? going after the money. another round of air strikes on isis positions in eastern syria. this was the latest round as effective as the first two? we don't know, we don't know how effective they really were. we'll get the latest assessment from the pentagon. breaking overnight, the suspect in the university of virginia missing student case apprehended in texas. he's believed to be the last person to see hannah graham. those new developments after the break. 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enforcement across this nation, jesse matthew is in custody in galveston, texas. >> had this is the latest video of jesse matthew working as a volunteer football coach hours before he met the university of virginia sophomore. later that night he was seen on this surveillance video putting his arm around graham at the charlottesville downtown mall. police believe he was the last person to see hannah before she vanished september 13th. >> we have a person in custody. but there's a long road ahead of us, and the long road includes finding hannah graham. >> a galveston county judge told a law reporter that matthew didn't resist arrest and deputies responded to a call of a suspicious person camping on the beach at around 3:30 p.m. wednesday. a run of the license plate showed a warrant for matthew's a arrest. >> the hero of today is an employee, a deputy with the galveston county sheriffs office. >> earlier this week, matthew was recorded walking into the convenience store on the bolivar peninsula, near where police picked him up. he purchased a few items and left. matthew worked as an operating room patient technician at the university's medical center. but has since been suspended without pay. items collected from searches of matthew's car and apartment are being examined by technicians at the virginia department of forensic science. >> we're determining whether an item of evidence, a body fluid came from a particular individual. >> the police chief suspects those dna results back before the end of the week. meanwhile, a devastated community waits for answers. >> and matthew will now go before a judge in galveston county. the issue is extradition, because he needs to be brought back here to virginia. he can fight that, though. on other news, i met the attorney that is now going to represent this man. his name is james camblos, he is the defense lawyer, he has been for almost 40 years, but he was also the elected commonwealth attorney, a life-long prosecutor in charlottesville. >> jean casarez, thank you so much. and another round of air strikes has been launched against isis targets in syria by the u.s.-led coalition. was this latest round as effective as the first two? we'll go directly to the pentagon and get some answers from them. and as global events unfold this week, vice president joe biden said something pretty extraordinary about the president's plan for immigration that went under the radar, but, john king caught it and he will tell you all about "inside politics" coming up next. denver international is one of the busiest airports in the country. we operate just like a city, and that takes a lot of energy. we use natural gas throughout the airport - for heating the entire terminal, generating electricity on-site, and fueling hundreds of vehicles. we're very focused on reducing our environmental impact. and natural gas is a big part of that commitment. i have $40,ney do you have in your pocket right now? $21. could something that 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recommended, we would be in a very different position. i just can't. you can't go and prove a negative. but what i do believe is that the -- situation now is demanding a response. and we're seeing a very robust response. >> strong endorsement from her there. bill clinton very strongly saying the president is doing the right thing. everyone is always looking to see is hillary clinton getting closer to the president, stepping away from the president. there i thought she was saying, yeah, sure i did disagree with the president, don't blow it up. let's move on. >> i take her comments at face value. she brushed away her disagreements, we've heard about those, they've been reported on. right now she's saying i believe in this. and for foreign policy and defense reasons, a little awkward, i don't want to say dangerous, but complicated, a former secretary of state, a likely front-runner for 2016 strikes out and says, i completely disagree with the strategy of this president. a former member of his own administration could create some political complications. >> she can't say that right after the air strikes launch that she disagrees with the president. that's one thing going on with this comment. the other is that every single little thing she says is scrutinized, even the subtlest distinction gets blown out of proportion. we saw it when she disagreed with the president when she said he doesn't have any operating, guiding principles on foreign policy in that interview in the "atlantic." that exploded and she had to p go back to the president and say, there's nothing to see here. this is important politically for her, as much as the president's standing has suffered, the base, the base of the democratic party and i was just in iowa talking to activists about this, is still loyal to the president. so it is a very difficult dance for her if she becomes too critical of the president, democrats are going to say hey, you got to slow down. >> 2016 -- 2015, she wants the president at her side, she wants the president's support. >> remember, we're six weeks away from the mid-term elections, we thought it would be largely about the economy, still will be. we thought it would be largely about obama care. but national security, the isis threat more and more an issue. here's scott brown, the former republican senator for massachusetts, now running as a republican in new hampshire. a new ad being very tough on this issue. anyone who turns on the tv these days, knows we face challenges to our way of life. radical islamic terrorists are threatening to cause the collapse of a country. president obama and senator shaheen seem confused about the nature of the threat, not me. >> that's scott brown, a retired member of the military. still in the national guard, reserves, jean shaheen, the democratic incumbent firing back. saying it's sad that scott brown is trying to score political points to help himself hours after our military launched strikes to destroy targets in isil. >> brown has bet a lot on this strategy, focusing on national security. >> he's going on, all in here. it's an interesting situation. just because national security at least not among details are not things that move during an election. this particular issue has been very interesting and very complex politically. the idea of whether or not the strategy is appropriate to authorize, whether or not a president should in fact go further has been something that's divided members of congress and their political opponents as we head into the election. and really interesting ways that don't just strike me along party lines. >> as we watch this state by state, new hampshire is the home state of james foley. the american journalist beheaded by isis, and if you talk to people in both parties who understand politics, they say there's a ripple in the senate race, based on the fact that it's so personal. >> and republicans say it's effective with women voters. that the term security moms came up in 2004 and that race. and scott brown is going to need that in this race against eugene. he's in the hunt in this race. even though his favorite-unfavorite ratings are upside-down. so if he can cut into shaheen's gender gap a little bit, he could be in the race. >> we talked about how hillary clinton did not want to distance herself from the president. jean shaheen does not say we should rally around the commander-in-chief and the men and women in uniform. president obama's approval ratings in new hampshire is in the tank. this has snunk under the radar. looking at the threat, the new air strikes and the coalition. but joe biden on the road talking about an issue i always call the quicksand of american politics, immigration. the president said if republicans don't act, he will. but then he said, he would wait until after the election. listen to joe biden say if it comes to executive action, watch out. >> if they don't get something done, by the end of the year, the president is going to do it. he's going to do an awful lot. watch when this election is over. watch what happens when -- realize that the prospects for future electoral success hinge upon acting rationally. they'll either act rationally or we will act for them. >> on the vice president's definition of rational would be a comprehensive immigration bill, a path to status. you spend a lot of time covering congress who think republicans are ready to do that in the short-term. he says the president will do an awful lot, how do we define that? >> an awful lot is an interesting turn of phrase. this is something that went under the radar. i know a lot of advocates within the hispanic community, those who favor comprehensive immigration reform are hoping to see a sweeping package from this president after the lawmakers return. it's not clear what that will turn out being. but i think the vice president's choice of words is interesting. you know, peter one reason the president said wait until after the elections, a lot of vulnerable democrats said drop this, don't do it until after the election. does it help that the vice president is talking about this, saying it's going to be a lot? >> sure. i think the base and hispanic voters might pay attention to joe biden. the way broader american population might not. to your point, the politics change after november and this becomes a wedge issue for democrats and something that they can use to drive a wedge between the pragmatists and the republican party. do you guys want to get something done here. paul ryan, john boehner or the presidential candidates on the republican side, appealing to the republican base in iowa and south carolina, what is their calculation, so it is smart politics to back away from it now and lean in after the election. >> peter hamby thanks for coming in and wanda sykes. i want to show a picture this is the president exiting marine one. there's two marines there, the president has a cup of coffee in his hand. he wishes that hnlt happened that way. but he salutes, republicans trying to of a lot of fun with this. some trying to raise money with this and some of the late-night politics having fun with this. >> with all that's going on in the world, i'm surprised he didn't salute with a bottle of jack daniels and a cigarette in the other. oh boy, you guys, here we go. a rough week. >> the worst part of the whole thing? can we zoom in on that? they got his name wrong on the cup. >> sunblock yo mama. >> a little humor, president getting beat up over that. there's a picture of george w. bush getting off barney, one of his dogs, it's a tough job, you got a camera aimed at you 24/7. >> sunblock yo mama. that was very funny. thank you for that this morning. we have more on the newest round of air strikes against isis inside syria. the question is, are we flying blind? why is that the question? because how successful are the strikes? we don't really know and we can't really tell because we're not on the ground, despite all the surveillance capabilities that we have. we're going to try to get answers directly from the pentagon, next. 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>> we're focused on the refineries right now. we are trying to get at their infrastructure around the refineries. not necessarily every part of the refinery, but their ability to use the refinery. and we're still assessing the results of the strategy, but we feel they're pretty effective. >> i know you can only say so much as far as what's happening militarily. you have the targets and you have the leaders of isis. the fear is that many of them as we discussed yesterday morning are blending in with civilians in syria. obviously a lot of them fleeing and hiding. how do you target those people? >> we expect they're going to react to the pressure we put them under. we've seen them change and adapt inside iraq. we expect ha they'll change and adapt inside syria. i can tell you we're pretty adaptive and we'll react appropriately to try to keep putting pressure on them. we take care to make sure that we limit civilian casualties or collateral damage as much as possible. we try to be very precise, very lethal. if we make a mistake, we're going to own up for that. but we are going to be very careful here as we move forward. the other thing i would say is we've been very clear that military solutions are not enough. they're necessary, but not sufficient. so when you say getting at these guys there has to be other elements of pressure put upon them other than u.s. air strikes. >> you brought up a beat ago about civilians and obviously you want to minimize civilian casualties, we here at cnn talked to an activist in the stronghold of raqqa and the activist told that the isis fighters are moving into homes of civilians. there are fears that they could be used as human shields. how does that complicate things, how would that affect the u.s. and coalition air campaigns? >> there's no question that it obviously complicates the use of air power. because we do take such care. unlike them to not hit innocent civilians, not hurt innocent people. so it's going to complicate it from the air. we've said from a military perspective, you got to have competent partners on the ground to go after these guys and root them out. it's going to be the iraqi security forces and kurdish forces, in syria, it's going to be the moderate opposition who we hope to start training in the coming months. >> admiral kirby you talked to wolf blitzer yesterday and said the u.s. military is ready to keep pressure on isis for quote as long as it takes. i realize it's impossible to know how long that may be right now. but short-term, admiral, what is a short-term victory look like? >> i think we're in this for a matter of years. and i think we all believe that here in the pentagon, we're steeling ourselves for that length of time. it's hart to put an end date on that. i can't tell you it's three, five, six, but it's probably several years at the very least. we're going to be prepared for that. hopefully it won't take that long. they have a radical, disastrous ideology that is increasingly being rejected, that's the ultimate answer. good governance is ultimately the answer in iraq and syria. and if good governance gets started in iraq, we think the vectors are in the right direction, and we can get rid of the assad regime will go in syria, there's a chance there, too, but it's going to take a while. >> the lines are still the same, you talk to military experts, the lines are the same as they have been the last couple of weeks. at what point does the u.s. military have the success and the lines are redrawn? >> well right. remember, it's not about u.s. military success here. it's about the success of the iraqi people. and it's about the success of the syrian people to throw off this group, and to institute better governance inside their own borders. that's the real answer here. not u.s. military air power. >> rear admiral john kirby, thank you so much. making progress, reports on the third wave of u.s. and coalition air strikes. i appreciate it very much. we were just discussing the war on isis, it is well under way. will be for some time. admiral just saying years, years to come. but not everyone agrees with the president's decision to start it in the first place. did he have the authority? should congress have voted? we'll debate that next on "new day." three rounds of air strikes now and the question remains, is this war against isis the right war or the wrong war? let's discuss with people who know, retired lieutenant colonel james reese, former delta force commander and hillary mann leverett, the author of "going to tehran." lieutenant colonel i will start with you. you're bombing targets in the coalition. the coalition is therefore growing, there are reports of success on the ground. why is this proof that this is the right move? >> well, chris, it's completely the right move. i think president obama did a great job, i think the great thing is the coalition, these five different elements of the arab gcc part of this coalition and even last night they dropped the majority of the munitions in syria and iraq. i think it's a great move. >> the lacklustre, they, hillary, you don't have the egypt, the turkey, the real parts of saudi arabia coming forward and that's because you are exacerbating the cultural crisis going on by using force in the first place. that's the counter argument, make it. >> yes, we have the christian west led by the united states, teaming up with unrepresentative repressive governments particularly in saudi arabia these jihadists hate. their goal is to overthrow that government. we are and teaming up with them and seeing proof in the pudding which say surmg in recruitment instead of a few hundred fighters al qaeda had at its disposal isis has tens of thousands. the pool for the next 9/11 isn't a few hundred it's tens of thousands hundreds of americas, thousands of saudis under the so-called allied xwofts we've teamed up. >> you're teaming up with the bad guys, lieutenant colonel. when you do that you make the peep oppressed angry and they join extremely groups. doing this may look good from above but it's bad on the ground. >> well i disagree with what hillary says. the bombing started three nights ago didn't cause the thousands of recruits to come in. this has been happening over a couple years. what really happened was, as we pulled out of iraq and that sucking noise came out of the middle east, again, unfortunately we have turned our back on one side instead of staying there and keeping things at bay, and now the sunnis in iraq are looking at the shia government down there and now it's caused that issue, which now brought everyone back into that area, which the fight happens, now they're asking us to come back and help again. >> hillary, let me see if i can get your head shaking in the other direction here. looking at it in terms of what force did and will do is just one aspect. to look at what matters more, the reason that you're teaming up with bad guys, as you say, is you don't have stability in iraq. you have the sunnis disenfranchised. you have that going in syria with oppression. you do no work to help the fight for the soul of islam and if you don't work on those fronts all the might in the world willer in make right. is that a fair point? >> yes, and i mean it's not our fight. there is a tremendous, visible, dramatic upheaval going on within the sunni muslim world, that is a fight as bloody as it is that has to happen among muslims in the sunni world. if we step into that, we make ourselves a target. we have the power to either continue to sow the seeds for the next 9/11 or prevent it. we should stay out of that fight, because to join it is to do so at our peril. it's a proven recipe for failure. >> lieutenant colonel, hillary is living in the past. we're already in it. we were in it. so it is not really productive to talk about staying out of it. how do we keep the u.s. insulated from what happens next? >> exactly what i believe is going on right now, the u.s. are the greatest force militarily to do synchronization and planning but now we've brought this coalition together. what we do is we, as i heard talk about last night is, we lead from behind, which most military people don't like to do but i think it's a great technique here as we lead from behind, we synchronize, we help plan and let these other arab countries really start taking the lead. i think a great thing that came out last night possibly was is, the uae had a female pilot, that's revolutionary for an arab country, could be huge. >> and a rallying point. we constantly put out women without a head covering as some sort of proof that they've seen enlightenment. instead that's going to be a rallying point for recruits to join isis who want to purify the muslim world. we are holding those things up as success but it's just the opposite. it's a proven tool for recruitment. tens of thousands of people are now joining isis to fight that type of western liberal imposition within the muslim world. >> hillary we're putting up pictures now, she has a head scarf is so i don't know what the intentionality. let me ask you something, why are you so determined on not offending the ignorant? why do we want to appease the ignorant and the extremists? that's not a great strategy either, right? i mean, at what point do you cater to intelligence and modernity and let the islam people fight for the soul of what their faith is? >> we should be letting the people of islam fight for the soul of what faith is, but to impose a western secular largely christian motivated ideological belief on a billion people, a billion people stretching across a huge swathe of the world is not only morally questionable but it's not realistic. we can't impose it with our f-16s. we can't impose it with our military. if people want to embrace liberal western democracy, that's great but the idea that we can impose it at the end of a tank or an f-16 has failed in iraq, failed in libya, failed in afghanistan. we have a track record here. >> lieutenant colonel, give me a quick button on this. the president said the opposite in his speech, the only language these types of people understand is force. what is your last thought? >> i completely agree with the president on this one. the bottom line is this is we've sat now for a couple years watching this come back in because we wanted to get back out. they asked for our help. we styed it was time. i think it's a great move. >> lieutenant colonel, hillary mann leverett thank you for joining us. we will continue this every step of the way on "new day." the fore facet of this conversation is the uk. where have they been in the war against iceis? mostly silent, right? that could change with the uk voting on action. you know why they're doing that? that's what you're supposed to do. you know who else was supposed to do that? the united states. why didn't congress do it? you may know the answer but let's discuss it, straight ahead. 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[ speaking in foreign language ] >> reporter: overnight in syria another wave of air strikes targeting isis headquarters, a training camp, oil refineries and checkpoints in the dai dair ezzor province. the attacks killing at least 14 militants and also five civilians including women and children according to a rights monitor group. the u.s.-led coalition aiming to degrade the brutal militant group's source of revenue, according to u.s. officials striking 12 oil facilities seized by isis in eastern syria wednesday, bringing the total number of air strikes in the region to over 30. >> this is the beginning of a long effort. there will be more. there will be more. >> reporter: u.s. officials estimate that isis makes upwards of $2 million a day by smuggling oil, refining it and producing some 500 barrels a day then selling them on the black market. u.s. officials hope these air strikes in the remote countryside would lessen the risk of civilian casualties. concern raised after the initial air strikes fell upon densely populated areas like raqqa and eidlip. an active vis says isis fighters began moving into civilian homes two weeks ago. and wednesday's strike the u.s. flew only about half a dozen f-15 aircraft. saudi arabia and the united arab emirates flying more. now belgium and the nexterlands are expressing a commitment to join the u.s. and fire arab nations in the attack against isis. and while the pentagon says the focus was on the infrastructure around some of these small refineries, the question really is whether the push on the pocketbook of isis won't be complete until they get at the ability of the organization to take oil out of the ground and smuggle it across the border. brooke? >> okay, we'll talk about it in a second here. let me turn to retired lieutenant colonel rick francona here. walk with me, we have the visual with the map that helps me. as opposed to when we saw yesterday this is the third wave and all these red dots represent strikes. >> right. some of them were oil refineries, these mobile or these makeshift oil refineries out in the desert and some of them are just true concentrations of isis fighters. >> okay so mobile oil refineries, command and control trucks all targeted. >> anything having to do with isis in this area they're trying to hit. the ones up in the further northeast are of course trying to take pressure off of the kurds, pushing the kurds up against the turkish border, so we're trying to relieve that. right in the center here though, this is the center of the syrian oil industry. this is where the oil fields are almost every, all the oil series concentrated in this area and it's around this city of de deir ezzor. going after these refineries hurts them a little bit. it cuts off some of their own oil production but the biggest amount of oil revenue is actually the crude that they take out of the ground. we're reluctant to strike those >> that was what joe johns was talking to admiral kirby a minute ago at the pentagon is the issue. i know the numbers are flexible we say maybe 2 million out of some of the mobile refineries a day that is chump change compared to the billions they have in the bank and what they could get by hitting the fields. >> if you hit the oil fields you cause a lot of damage to the imfrom structure of syria and at some point that all has to be repaired. so ideally we'd like to limit isis' ability to sell the oil without having to go in and destroy the oil fields. >> you were also saying the lines as we've been watching this campaign, it's been a couple of days but the lines are still drawn the same way, blunting the force but at what point do you see territorial gains? >> you look at isis as one big target threat, because that black line on the map we're the only ones that care about it. isis does not. >> they disregard it. >> in iraq the air power has been successful in stopping the momentum and that was the -- >> key. >> -- initial key point to stop them from rolling. they were on a roll coming down the euphrates and tigris valley. >> the speed in seizing the territories surprised a lot of people. >> that drove the timing to stop these guys in place. we've done that. isis is still there but they're not moving. we have to give the iraqi army and peshmerga to stand back up, get their leadership changes and roll these guys up because you cannot let them have the territory. >> okay. >> that will work and there's a plan for that. the big problem comes is in syria, what do we do here? we can bomb them but as long as there's no ground force to go in and follow up the air strikes, the air strikes really can't solve the problem. they can hold it in abeyance. >> this will take years and years, echoing what the pentagon told us. colonel francona thanks so much. we'll keep talking to you as the conversation moves forward. chris, to you. >> all right, brooke, years and years is right by all accounts which is why you needed to go into it with all due deliberation. did we do that? let's get the perspective of someone who should know, congressman jim hines, c democr from connecticut sits on the permanent intelligence committee. >> good morning, chris. >> let me ask you something, did you know about the attacks before they occurred? >> it was actually a small number of people in the congress who knew about these attacks. look, a lot of us knew that they were coming in some way, shape or form but as you probably know the white house reached out to the leadership, we had unfortunately left for the close of session so i think it was mainly the leadership that knew the timing and terms of the attacks. >> we are in the phase right now of watching this and it's being somewhat celebrated for effectiveness early on. as you well know this was a decision that was fraught with risk. do you believe the united states entered into it with all due deliberation? >> well, no, i don't believe that the u.s. entered into it with all due deliberation. as a lot of people said this is the kind of thing that more broadly and i'm not just talking about the specific arming and training of the syrian moderates that we did debate and vote on but a larger -- look, we're using the word now, war is something that if we're going to go into it both abiding by the terms of the constitution but also with the american people having fully understood the implications we need to have a debate and vote on it in the congress. i would add look, i am one who would say that adam antly at the same time i support the activities that the president has undertaken in the last couple of days, the bombing that he's been doing for six weeks so i'm not saying that i oppose what's happening. i'm saying it is worth, given this is going to be a long-term thing with reversals for us to have that debate on the floor of congress so the american people understand what we're getting into. >> two problems one it's two late because you're at war and two, even you, congressman, who has been open in what you disagree, disagree with some things, agree with others, that's not how it works. everybody's on the same page. you own the risk going forward and that's why when you see what the uk is doing it almost makes the united states look a little jv, doesn't it? he calls parliament back, they're going to have a vote, they're going to debate it. they've told him no once before on bombing in syria, but they're acting the way they do to have a unified people going into it. how could we have done this here again? >> well, you know, unfortunately one of the reasons one of the smaller reasons i voted against the arming of the syrian moderate rebels was that that was what the president needed from the congress, and we just handed it to him. and that was our one piece of leverage to say no, mr. president, we want to have a broader discussion about what this looks like, where are we 12, 13 years after we first started this counterterror effort and what should we do right now. we traded the one piece of leverage that we had to get a full and vigorous debate on the floor of the congress with the president. one thing i would just maybe slightly disagree with you, you said we don't all need to be on the same page and we won't always be on the same page. we ought to out the issues, have a long conversation about them and let the people see where their representatives stand on this very, very complicated issue. >> i think that you are right. you do not have to agree all the time but you do have to come to a consensus. you do have to vote and you do have to have an outcome so that the people know it's the only way for them to know where their leaders wound up on such a major decision, and i would say it's not the only leverage you had congressman, it is politically, because of what the state of play is. the only real thing on the table was arming the syrians, but the constitution makes it so clear that it's not even an academic conversation. war is all you guys, all you guys and you've been handing it to the president for generations and now it may come back to bite you. >> look, exactly. that's a mistake. i don't mean to point fingers solely at the white house. this has been true for 60 years the white house believed they've got more war-making authority than probably the constitution warrants but look, there were an awful lot of senators and members of congress who didn't want to take that vote and that's just awful. that is an abrogation of a fundamental responsibility. i understand it's a tough vote in the context of an election but we're talking about war and peace here. so look, in a better world, we would not be at home right now, we would be in washington talking about tough issues, because again i think most of the congress would have completely backed the president on these air strikes. but we would have talked more about who else is involved. we would have talked more about what are the underlying factors that are giving rise to groups like this. frankly, the fact that some of the funding for these guys is still coming out of the very countries that flew with us in the last couple of nights and what can we do about that? that's the broader, deeper conversation that we should be having. instead we had a military tactical discussion. is it air strikes, moderate syrian rebels. and by the way i give the president credit in front of the u.n. yesterday he made these points that this is a global effort that involves far more than military, it involves some fundamental change and some very broken societies. >> fundamentally it's the fight over the soul of islam and that's something not decided by force and not going to be decided by the united states. let me ask you something else while i have a member of the permanent intelligence committee before us. this threat from the khorasan, the offshoot of al qaeda, i know you can't get into what you actually know but people need to know how specific this threat was. is this just political jazz they're being told to justify air strikes or was there really information you were given that showed that the use of force was justified to stop something that could happen here in the united states? >> let me answer the question this way, chris. the attacks that were undertaken khorasan were in response to a threat that was far more specific and far more credible than any threat that isis leveled at the united states. isis as you know has for weeks now been threatening to do this and threatening to do that. char san had as one of its core reasons for being to plan attacks in the west, some a little bit like the ones that have been announced in the media, but when the president says that he went after khorasan because it was a direct and eminent threat to the united states, he is not, i forget the word you used but he's not being political. >> you know you're in a tough situation when you're at war with one group but they're not issuing threats as bad against the united states as another group and you need to attack them as well. it just speaks to the urgency of the situation. congressman, thank you for coming on "new day" and talking about these issues. push your brothers and sisters to come in and debate. i say it's too late but they have to get on record. >> i'm with you on that chris. >> thank you. a lot of news, let's get to john berman in for michael a. the man wanted for abduction in the case of missing uva student hannah graham is expected to appear in a texas courtroom any moment. 32-year-old jesse matthew was arrested on a beach in galveston county, texas, wednesday. police believe he's the last person seen with graham when she vanished nearly two weeks ago in virginia. president obama will shift from coalition bombing to ebola. he'll focus on a speech at the u.n. this morning. the world health organization says more than 2,900 people have died in west africa from the outbreak already and it could get much, much worse. a disturbing trend revealed in an fbi study, mass shootings are occurring more frequently with nearly one incident a month between 2000 and 2013. lot of people will say this was obvious but this was the first comprehensive study by the government on this subject. the report says 70% of the shootings took place at schools or businesses, most with a reported 160 incidents during that time were carried out by men, only six of the shooters were female. matthew miller, the american detained in north korea begins his six-year sentence of hard labor today. this new photo of miller dressed in prison garments was released by a north korean government official. there are no details about where he will serve his sentence or what labor he will be required to perform. miller was convicted of committing hostile acts, that's in quotes, to north korea, and sentenced earlier this month. >> poor look on that guy's face tells it all, he's losing weight already. >> so young. >> look, it also speaks to the problem of when you don't have diplomatic relations with a place, the question is what can you do, how do you get it done? this big arrest overnight, nine men arrested in what's called a terror dragnet in the uk. one of them is this prominent cleric, on your screen, all over american media, this going on as the threat of homegrown terror ramps up in the u.s. we have the latest ahead. 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>> in the era, the period we're in right now there's an awful lot of rhetoric out there and in a country likes ours in the uk it's a fine line between free speech and incitement to terrorism. we don't know the details of what the special branch and british authorities have but it could be from financing to facilitating fighters to get to battlefronts and those things. tense times. >> philip mudd, we saw the french president, president hollande mentioning yesterday at the u.n. ga condemning the killing of this french hiker in algeria over the weekend and it's tough to keep all these groups straight. this say splinter group calling themselves the soldiers of the caliphate. they're not isis. they have pledged their allegiance to the leader of ice ice al baghdadi. who are they? >> what you're looking at happening in the extremist world i used to follow at the agency, you have the core al qaeda people responsible for the attacks of 9/11, they look at groups like isis and this group in algeria as fringe groups, believe it or not. you can think of al qaeda as the big brother and what they're saying to the french groups if you start beheading people, the prospect that you can recruit more fund-raisers, more young people over time will diminish because people will say you're too far out on the fringe so what you're seeing in the extremist world is a separation between the terrorists who are part of the al qaeda network of 13 years ago in this new phenomenon of people who are even further out than al qaeda and who say beheading people and putting their heads on stakes is fine t helps us recruit in places like europe and the united states. >> phil, you have those core people, these splinter groups. i'm just curious, and i was asking bob about this as well, just are they trying to in a sense one-up each other? do they get along? are they all in the fight together? >> they don't get along. you've seen core al qaeda against aman al zawahiri took over after billion billiosama b laden talk about this. al qaeda has been around for 25 years or so. they've gone through phases where they, themselves sponsored so much extremism that local populations said, hey, this is not acceptable. we don't buy what you're doing. we saw this by the way remember in iraq about what, six or seven years ago when we had extremists kill a lot of sunnis and shias in iraqi. al qaeda said don't do that. go after the americans because you'll alienate the local population. >> you have core members and splinter groups over there, bob mcfadden but then you have the fear of what they call lone wolves, right, lone attackers potentially here at home, isis released that audio over the woke understand calling on members or those inspired by isis to kill westerners or americans. local and federal law enforcement working to protect. how difficult is it to protect against attacks? >> one underlining great point phil made there never was a monolith and never will be against the groups. there's so much bickering going on even what happened with the french hostage the soldiers of the caliphate is a sprinter group from al qaeda's affiliate group in north africa. now back to the idea of a singleton or lone wolf, there's nothing new what isis has done in the last few weeks to encouraging those things. al qaeda back in the day would latch onto when there was an individual act country like ours or england and encourage others to do that. when you talk about if this phenomenon and what's on with the situation in syria and iraq it's important to place things in the could be text of where events are going on. would we have a situation like what happened with the french hostage with the splinter group in algeria? little to no chance of something like that, although you can never rule out individuals being inspired. >> individuals who were inspired, i was in boston for a month what happened on boylston street, the tsarnaev brothers, and ft. hood, horrible examples of success. >> behind the tragedies unfortunately almost like from the same playbook there are individual factors or factors from those persons that spurred them into action. being able to sort that out, whether it's at the family level, local law enforcement, colleagues, that's key. >> bob mcfadden and philip mudd thank you. president obama going to expand the coalition against isis. did his speech yesterday at the u.n. assembly help, do the trick? 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i'm sorry. >> that's okay. requesting a court appointed attorney for the finalive from justice warrant out of virginia would only be to fight extradition basically saying you're not the person on the warrant, that they have the wrong person and you should not be extradited back to virginia. >> if i sign it? >> i'm going to ask you to sign either way, either requesting a court appointed attorney or declining consideration for a court appointed attorney. if you request one the only thing the attorney can do is challengele valid of the warrant and fight your extradition back to virginia. all right, we're done. >> there it is, jesse matthew right there, there was a discussion with the judge about whether he would request a court appointed attorney to fight extradition to virginia. now actually we could not hear what he said, if he wanted a court-appointed attorney to fight that extradition. i'm joined on the phone by jean casarez who is in virginia covering the abduction and disappearance of hannah graham and this arrest of jesse matthew in texas in the first court appearance the issue they were discussing was extradition back to where you are in virginia. >> reporter: right, exactly. that's the big issue because he can either fight it, by he will not win or he can waive it and probably be back here in virginia sometime very shortly today. i do want to say he was arrested yesterday at 3:30 in the afternoon on the beach as he was camping in a tent and the charges that he faces there in texas failure to identify as a fugitive and intent to give false information, so that is how they actually arrested him, but there's a federal hold on him, and then there is a fugitive from justice warrant out of virginia. no bail on both of those, so obviously a situation where he just has to make the decision is he going to fight to go back to virginia or is he going to be on possibly the next plane. >> all right, and jean, give us an update on the case itself, of course, there's been a question about finding, locating this man, jesse matthew. now they have, we saw him at a courtroom in texas, what is the latest on the search for hannah graham? >> reporter: the search for hannah graham continues and now they have the person that they believe has the answers. you know, i called the jail yesterday and because he was arrested at 3:30 in the afternoon on the beach, and he was not brought in to the station until 8:00 at night. i was told that they were at the site questioning him. they were questioning him about hannah graham. they want to know where she is. this is an emergency situation so they are allowed to ask those questions under law because they have to find her. she could be in jeopardy and it's been 12 days today since she was last seen. we don't know if they got any answers but we do know they asked him a lot of questions. john? >> we do know he is in custody in texas. we saw him in the courtroom. our first chance to hear from jesse matthew himself. jean casarez thank you so much. we're going to follow this of course as it develops throughout the day. in moments we'll have more on the air strikes in syria. fareed zakaria joins us after the break. straight... yes? 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the assad government, the syrian government wants to be that person. we want the free syrian army, the rebels, the moderate rebels as we call them to take over, and guess what? there's, this is a contest that will be very messy. imagine the two-step race, a one-step campaign to defeat isis, then we need to, in our minds help the syrian, free syrian army defeat the assad government. meanwhile, just to complicate things further, the iranian government, which has been backing the syrian regime, is going to fight those free syrian rebels. i had the opportunity to interview president rouhani of iraq, yesterday, and he said flatly the free syrian army are terrorists. from iran's point of view, they really don't make that much distinction between isis and the free syrian army. they're going to fight both. >> people will hear this and say i don't care what iran does. the u.s. doesn't like them, except think of just the simple logic, if iran is going to fight against and help in 100 different ways to fight against the people the u.s. and coalition want to train in syria, they at the same time could be the iraqis' best friend in terms of maintaining the shia stability that's in that region. so they become someone who is a problem on two fronts if they're not dealt with and how do you deal with them when you don't have great diplomatic relations? >> i think you've hit the nail on the head which is the solution, our political solutions in iraq, in syria, and i would add in afghanistan all rest in a very strange way on iran, because who has a really great relationship with the iraqi government to make them more inclusive? iran. who has a great relationship with the syrian government and the generals so that you can talk about some kind of post-assad future, maybe a power sharing deal. the iranian government. we don't talk to the syrians. in afghanistan, where you have this new deal between the two contenders and a national unity government, who has influence with the people we don't have influence with, the iranians, and yet we haven't been able to -- i asked rouhani about this. i said couldn't you be helpful on all these fronts and he said first we have to deal with the nuclear issue. we get past the nuclear issue, we can be very helpful on all those things. he said there's a persian saying, let's first raise the baby that we just gave birth to before we start talking about the second baby. >> now listen, here's the thing. people at home will say this is confusing. i'm just starting to get my day going, but it's not the way to see it, because if you care about the bombing, you have to care about what the goal of the bombing is. the u.s. took huge risk in getting involved in this and the fact is this, we're calling it isis, but it could be called anything, because it's just an idea, it's extremism, it's about the soul of islam, not the faith of islam. everybody by now hopefully knows that islam itself, being a muslim is not about being violent. however, who will fight that fight? this coalition that the president is trying to build,het gave an eloquent speech, powerful. many of these countries have funding mechanisms in their own countries of extremism. isn't that more important than anything you achieve on the battlefield? >> ultimately the most important thing is exactly that, and president obama, to his credit, actually pointed out the very fact you're saying. he had a line in the speech i'm paraphrasing, he said there are people and governments that profit from globalization, meaning sell oil to us, and then use those funds to support extremism and jihad. who is he talking about? he's talking about saudi arabia. he's talking about the united arab emirates. >> who fights that fight? >> i thought the president's most distinctive element to his speech was the fact that he said only muslims can do it, only muslim leaders can do it. it's not just political leader, it's cultural leaders and he said something very important, he said they're not doing enough, they're not doing it frontally enough. this is a cancer in your midst. ultimately, you know, 1.57 billion muslims in the world are not going to care what the president of the united states thinks. they care what their local leaders think and what president obama is saying is you guys in the world of islam, you have not done enough to exorcize this cancer in your midst >> you take the u.s. we think we have trouble with our leadership here, you have populations through that region where often they live in complete contempt of who is ruling them because it's certainly not a democracy. so why would that leadership do anything to placate the people? it's not what they've ever done. >> you've just described the faustian bargain so many regimes have made. they repress their people and they give enormous amount of authority to the most whacky extreme religious groups and say as long as you don't attack us, as long as you allow us to stay in power, you can preach whatever you want. >> subjugate the people but leave us alone. >> and even the ones who don't make that deal, they won't criticize the extreme kind of clerics and preachers because they don't want those guys to turn their wrath on the regimes saying you are apostats, you're not democratic. they know they have a legitimacy problem. you're right, this is complicated stuff but the best way to think about it, i think, is it's the politics, stupid, that we're good at the military side of this stuff. we're amazing at it both in the technology and human beings. they're the best. but the trouble is that on the ground, what's going to matter is the politics. do we get the politics in iraq? do we get them to take ownership? do we get the politics right in syria in this 12-cornered contest? that's where we need a surge. >> a surge, how is that possible? we don't know. we'll have to see what the coalition brings but again, coalition made of members that have their own problems, it's hard to see them as a solution but we have to have hope, right? fareed zakaria, thank you for making it easily understood and you have to understand it, because if you're going to care about this situation, it's not just about counting bombs. you're going to have to figure out what leads to change as this goes along and this is just the beginning. fareed was referring to an important interview he did with the iranian president hassan rouhani. you'll see it on "fukushima daiichi gps" 10:00 a.m. eastern and 1:00 p.m. eastern. fareed is so nice they play him twice as i like to say. younger women seeking older, wealthy men. it's a phenomenon we're seeing it more and more on matchmaking web sites. is it about companionship or something else? 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>> thanks so much, indra. the new cnn show "this is life" with lisa lick premieres this sunday. the first episode and i watched it, it is good, takes an inside look at the lives of sugar babies and sugar daddies. it delves into the surprisingly complex relationships and motivations, although i think there's really only one motivation we'll talk about that between men and women who meet own websites. look at this. >> is there a typical profile on seeking arrangement? >> the average sugar baby is 27, typically has a college degree or going to college. the average guy is 40 years old. he makes $250,000 or more every single year. >> what percentage of sugar daddies are married? >> roughly 40% married. >> we are joined by our new colleague lisaling. what an intro that is, welcome, great to have you. >> welcome. >> i watched this last night and i was introduced to a term that i did not know before, sugaring. >> yes. >> explain. >> there's nothing new about older men seeking out younger women, but what is new is in recent years a crock of websites sprung up to facilitate these mostly transactional relationships and as a feminist, it was very difficult for me to talk to a lot of these young women who were, in fact, seeking out these men to, among other things, help pay for their college tuition. what they said to me, and this was just a perspective that i hadn't heard directly before was that look we are the first generation in american history that has been consistently told that we are not going to make as much money as our parents and constantly being reminded of this dismal job, just dismal job opportunities and so this is a way for us to sort of circumvent having to work three jobs so we can focus more on our studies. >> one of the most entertaining and fascinating parts of this is watching you navigate through this show with the elephant in the room, which is sex, right? i mean we talked about the motivations here but the question that everyone has watching and you asked repeatedly is, isn't this just about sex? if not buying sex, at least renting it. >> and there's no doubt a lot of the men who troll these websites are interested in sex, but what the women say is that the difference between other dating sites and a dating site like this is the relationships are negotiable, so before you even meet the "sugar daddy" you can tell them, look, i'm not interested in sex. i will be your companion. i will do these things with you but i'm not -- some women might say if our relationship evolves like with any relationship sex could become part of the equation. >> is the guy you interview there a product of this arrangement? >> the man i interviewed is the owner of one of the websites. >> didn't he also -- >> yes, he is married to a much younger, beautiful woman. z>> he started the website because his mother told him, he was a fairly unattractive man and his mother said -- >> make a lot of money. >> you have to make a lot of money to get women attracted to you. >> as a woman and as a strong woman i hope myself i think part of me is sitting in front of these women i'd want to shake them a little bit and say what are you thinking but at the same time it's like some of them, they're owning up to it, hey, i need this money to go get a college degree. i realize 100% what i'm doing. this is a transaction and boom. >> these women are of a different generation tragically. >> you don't think that this has happened every generation on some level? >> it certainly has but college students are embracing it more than ever. these websites are advertising to college students and all the women i spoke to surprisingly they're very ambitious. they have intentions of becoming ceos themselves, but right now, they have decided that this is a way for them to not have to work so hard in order to be able to focus on their studies aenwhat's important to them. >> berman knows a lot about this topic and i don't. i was asking him about it, and it does get you into what do you judge and what don't you judge in people's choices? and knowing you the way i do -- >> you're saying berman is highly judgmental? >> i am not about his past and who he is. that's his life. i'm just saying -- >> stop it. >> -- do you deal with that as you go through? you're big into sel self-determination for people. >> yes. >> how do you balance this? this is her, her life. >> this is why i love doing this series so much because every topic that i will cover throughout the course of this series you will probably have an opinion about, upon hearing it, but as soon as you get immersed in, among these people and start engaging in conversation and get to know their back stories and what their lives have been like, you start to think a little bit differently and in many cases you start to employ more compassion. it's inevitable. >> that's what makes it great, even if it creeps you out, because it creeps you out, you can't turn away. lisaling, looking forward to the entire series in the run of the show, tune in this sunday, 10:00 p.m. to catch the premiere episode of lisaling's "this is life" only on cnn. a church stops asking for money from the faithful and starts giving it back and it's all for a great cause, that is "the good stuff" and it's right around the corner. 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"newsroom" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com happening now in "the newsroom," a new wave of strikes in syria. >> they were struck with precision-guided munitions over the course of about an hour and a half this afternoon by both u.s. and coalition aircraft. >> as a key ally enters the conflict. >> britain will play its part. >> america this morning laser focused on isis hideouts. >> there will be more. there will be more.