came to an end. >> we were able to identify 122 potential objects. we have now had four separate satellite leads from australia, from china and france showing possible debris. it is now impaerative that we link the debris to mh-370. >> reporter: as special equipment from the u.s. arrives in perth australia. the country's prime minister voicing optimism that something will turn up. >> a considerable amount of debris has been sighted in the area where the flight was last recorded. bad weather has so far prevented any of it being recovered, but we are confident that some will be. >> reporter: that includes a blue fin underwater vehicle also a tow pinger locater used to detect signals from the data recorder. dedicated to today's search at least five ships from 12 countries. they scour more than 600,000 square miles of ocean. this as new information emerges about flight 370's timeline. experts say new satellite data indicates the plane may have sent out a partial signal around 8:19 the morning it disappeared. maybe indicating the moment it went down. let's bring in andrew stevens on what officials are saying about the saernl -- search. they just tweeted out that while these search planes finally got back up in the air today, they've had two sightings. three objects were spotted in a search. one spotted by a commercial aircraft. they said it looked like rope. also they spotted a blue object clearly with the ramping back of of this search, they are going full speed ahead to try to find it. we don't know what the objects are of course. >> reporter: we are absolutely looking. we have 12 aircraft up there and five ships in the zone. these latest satellite images, that is the fourth set of images we've heard about. what malaysians are saying, they can narrow it down more and more just by calibrating where they're getting -- >> reporter: which is so key. >> reporter: absolutely. they're still going to get the kbrie -- eyes on. this is why the ships are so cruci crucial. >> reporter: there's a big difference from that and getting employee -- eyes on it from the air and the sea. >> reporter: interesting listening to the defense minister yesterday. you were talking to him. horrendous weather conditions. we have this 24 hours, that conditions haven't been adeal by a long way and it's closing back in again. this part of the world is known for storms kicking up very quickly. it can change very quickly down there. they are saying it's going to get ugly in 24 to 48 hours. it's just how time critical this is. if the beacons start working, you lose a big, big lead into where the main part of the wreckage is going to be. >> reporter: we can see, as i send it back, they're trying as hard as they can in the narrow window that they have here. we have more site ks, but a -- sightings but a healthy dose of caution. until they have identified and confirmed it's from mh-370, they cannot give anybody false hope. >> potential important developments. let's stay on the breaking news. let's bring in the panel of aviation analysts here. contributor and author gym wise. and former american airlines pilot. start with the news we just got in moments ago. a french satellite taking picturing spotted 122 possible pieces of debris ranging in size all the way up to about 70 feet. this to me sounds like not pieces of debris but something praps to a debris field. >> it does seem like that. the thing i like about that report, they said 70 feet. to me, that sounds like a wing still. it's logical to me that that wing would still be afloat at that time. i do believe -- i'm encouraged by the news. >> big pieces ranging up to 70 feet, but again, surrounded by dozens and dozens of other pieces. some of them bright-colored. we heard before they had seen orange things from the air perhaps. what does this indicate to you? >> like david was saying, it certainly seems to be that this may be a potential debris field. i agree that that larger piece of metal that might be floating could very possibly be the wing. it had been out of fuel. it has air tanks in it that would allow it to float. the orange pieces definitely could be pieces of life jackets and other debris from the aircraft. so this is a good sign. >> all right, jeff. this picture was taken on march 23rd which was sunday. today is tuesday. there is another bit of new information we just got in moments ago that the search planes flying today did spot some things from the sky. three pieces of potential debris. could be rope. not sure. to me it's surprising that they spot by satellite 122 pieces, but they can't seem to find that area again today. explain that to me. >> this has been an on going theme of this investigation. investigators are able to find debris in a satellite image. and then by the time that's processed and turned over to the investigators on the ground and in the airtime has lapsed. now it takes time to get back out to that area. there's drift, there's current. we're going to continue to have this problem. you can scan so much area in a satellite compared to being in a plane where you have to physically be there. we've had a very poor success ratio of being able to go back out into the area and identify those -- those promising leads that we've found from satellite imagery. >> it is the biggest search effort to date. is that enough? can they reasonably expect to get to these pieces before they move on? >> i gets guess, if you ask the families of those involved, they'll say nothing is going to satisfy them until they get some declaration that this really is the debris field and find out. so is enough enough? depends on who you ask. the weather as we've heard has been so dramatic. the debris field has been moving or the fields of what we've been spotting from the satellites have been moving constantly that this is so critical to be able to put not just the eyes from the satellites and the aircraft, but to be able to pick up those pieces and identify that as part of the flight. >> i want to back up right now. the satellite handshakes, the data they reanalyzed that allowed them to reach the conclusion that it ended in the southern indian ocean, there's one piece of information that came out. we had just heard it and trying to understand it. this news of a partial handshake. the satellites had been making them at regular intervals with the flight for hours and hours, but at the very end, there was a partial handshake. what does that indicate to you? >> to me, it's the most exciting piece of information we've had in a long time. that last ping, they had been regular intervals. then nine minutes after, it pings again. that tells me that the sat back in the back of the aircraft, top part of the aircraft, it's sending out this signal. it talks with the satellite. what i think happened with the acars, it had been separated somehow. the sat com system takes information from other things as well. the idea there if there's any kind of emergency on board that aircraft, it cannot only go through the acars system, but it can go directly. so this indicates to me something happened. electrical change, the engines had come offline. >> jeff wise, this make sense to you, something at the end there, that it was trying to communicate with the satellite? >> we're really waiting for more information from inmarsat. i agree this is exciting news, not only for that partial ping, but we were given a lot more data about what transpired between the aircraft and the satellite and we also learned how inmarsat was able to use that information to deduce it has to be the southern route not the northern route. that was the basis for the stunning revelation from the malaysian prime minister that all these passengers must be dead. >> breaking news just in now, sightings from a satellite of a possible debris field. some 122 objects off the coast of perth, australia. talk to me about the importance of this and how it could lead to that black box. you think it is crucial to find it and keep on looking until they do? >> it certainly is. it would help to facilitate and get this done so that we can perhaps put to rest what may have happened to that airplane. finding that black box is critical. determining whether this is a debris field. and again, we have to manage expectations. we've been down this road before. with the hope that this could be the reel field that we're looking for, then through the -- the math that they've been doing with currents, we could perhaps backtrack and get a more exact area of where that aircraft debris would be and through the satellite imaging -- we were just talking about that last ping. i agree this is a exciting development. hopefully it will establish a tighter area where we can put the search and put the assets that will benefit getting this done quickly. >> thank you for being with us. we're going to talk much more about this. >> we will get back to our coverage of flight 370 in just a moment. >> first, to a story in washington state that needs our attention. the death toll keeps rising from a mudslide in washington state. officials says as many as 24 people have died. rescuers are working in conditions described as like wet quick sand. we are live in arlington, washington with that. >> reporter: good morning. we now know searchers are calling this not only a rescue operation but also moving into a recovery effort. they say now four days later, it's unlikely to find survivors, they still believe in meryls. you get a sense there's a cloud of grief now blanketing this community. >> it's horrible. >> reporter: it has been the darkest four days of ray smith's life. >> my heart is broken. it's broken. she was my best friend. >> reporter: smith's daughter, summer, is among the missing. she was driving to work when the massive mudslide broke loose. >> there is a house on 530 and a big slide and it is covering the road. newly released 911 calls capture the shock and panic that overtook this tight knit community. >> my neighbors house has been taken out and they're trapped. >> reporter: four days into the search, people are still trapped. >> my family has been down there digging for her since saturday afternoon. >> reporter: she charged into the disaster zone. >> i wanted to rescue people. >> reporter: instead, the horror he witnessed now haunts him. >> it's no fun finding bodies. it's no fun doing any kind of work like that. >> reporter: smith has lost hope, but says closure can come only if summer is found. >> it just hurts so bad. it hurts so bad. i have 12 other children, but not one of them can replace one that you lose. not one. >> reporter: your heart just breaks for these people. your heart really heavy for all these families who are missing their loved ones. we do know officials have recovered 16 bodies. they believe they've identified another eight victims in the debris. hope to recover those bodies today. that brings the death toll to 24. >> heart breaking when you look at out close this small community is. to another story developing this morning. three secret service agents have been sent home from the netherlands for excessive drinking. one of them allegedly was found passed out. they were in amsterdam sunday in advance of the president's trip to the hague. we're live with the latest. a bit of an embarrassment for the agency? >> reporter: yeah. something of a scandal and hardly the image the secret service needs to project to the world in its job of protecting the president on such a high-profile trip abroad. it seems that three of these agents might have been involved in a night of partying. the secret service isn't giving a lot of detail at this point, but did confirm that the three agents have been sent home to the u.s. for disciplinary reasons. this just reminds the world of that terrible scandal in twel when a number of secret service agents were involved in drinking, dancing and prostitution. even the director of the secret service resigned not long after that. since that case, the rules for them traveling abroad also changed. but clearly, something may have gone wrong in amsterdam. >> thanks. i want to talk about something going on right here in the united states that is shocking. >> shocking. >> snow. meteorologist jennifer gray with a look at this shocking forecast. >> it is shocking. but good news, for new york, it looks like we are going to stay very dry. the bad news is if you are on the cape because you are experiencing blizzard-like conditions there, a lot of snow, and more importantly, a lot of wind. as this thing moved up the east coast, d.c. 38 and numbers could be double that around the cape. still a blizzard warning in effect for that area. it is going to move out by 3:30, 4:00 this afternoon. what we're looking at for snow totals, could see 8 inches around the cape. 50 mile per hour gusts in boston. new york city today, 34 mile per hour gusts. so it is going to be very windy for today and tomorrow. temperatures are going to be cold as well. 36 in new york today. those temperatures do start to move up a little bit. we warm up by the end of the week. unfortunately, a little bit of a rainmaker as we head into the weekend. temperatures close to 70 degrees in atlanta on friday. so we do warm up by the weekend, but it looks like we could see a lot of rain. >> don't you head back to atlanta this weekend? good timing there, dear. next up on "new day," new leads in the search for flight 370 announced just moments ago. potentially a large new debris field and could it lead to the wreckage? ♪ they lived. ♪ they lived. ♪ they lived. ♪ (dad) we lived... thanks to our subaru. ♪ (announcer) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. so when my moderate to severe chronic plaque psoriasis them. was also on display, i'd had it. i finally had a serious talk with my dermatologist. this time, he prescribed humira-adalimumab. humira helps to clear the surface of my skin by actually working inside my body. in clinical trials, most adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis saw 75% skin clearance. and the majority of people were clear or almost clear in just 4 months. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal events, such as infections, lymphoma, or other types of cancer have happened. blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure have occurred. before starting humira, your doctor should test you for tb. ask your doctor if you live in or have been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. tell your doctor if you have had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have symptoms such as fever, fatigue, cough, or sores. you should not start humira if you have any kind of infection. make the most of every moment. ask your dermatologist about humira, today. clearer skin is possible. we are following the breaking news. this is what it is. in just the last few minutes, they revealed 122 possible pieces of debris in the southern indian ocean. we're standing on the big map here. the malaysian officials say this debris was spotted about 150 miles off the coast of perth, australia. we do not know for a fact it's within this search area they've been looking at, but it's a fair supposition. when i hear the news 122 pieces of possible debris, to me, that sounds like a debris field. is that a correct description? >> it is a lot of debris, but it could be that this is all related to the aircraft still. i'm not kiss counting that -- discounting that. it is possible and it is pretty common in this area to see debris gather into a certain location because of the currents underneath. >> the size of the debris ageing up to about 70 feet. >> that number keeps popping up. to me, that makes sense that that's a portion of the wing. but then the width keeps changing. and everybody says, how could it be 45 because the length of the wing is only about 30 feet or so. if that engine during a ditching or a landing of the aircraft, no matter how it goes, the engine would have come off the bottom. when it does, right behind that is the mounting brackets for e that back flap. it could potentially be going in and out. >> i should also say that some of the pieces that have been spotted by this french satellite are different colors, bright colors. >> yeah and earlier if you remember yesterday reporting round, orange objects, which would be consistent with the prospect that it could be a raft. if the fuselage is taken apart, it could be inside. >> this is found in a 400 square mile area. not as vast as the areas they've been searching. >> if they can definitively say it was 20 kilometers, we might be able to get that tow fish out there and start looking for signals. >> today it's wednesday now. they were taken sunday. today, those flights taking off from perth flying out over the search area here, they come back and say, we've only spotted three objects, nondiscrypt objects, possibly rope. why are satellites taking pictures of things and the planes just can't find them? >> these conditions out here are changing constantly. so as the satellite's taking the picture, they're taking several. they have the option of selecting which one of those is the most clear. when you're out there in an airplane and looking at 20 miles, it's hard, it's really hard to try to figure out what it is that you're seeing even. let alone you have 7 meter waves going up and down. it sounds simple, but you don't have that option like the satellite does of saying where's the most calm time to be looking. >> we know how difficult of a task this is, but the number of pieces possibly spotted by this french satellite, 122. it could turn out to be nothing. but 122 pieces, would that be a lot if connected to an airplane? >> i wouldn't say it's a lot. what surprises me that after all this time, if that were just aircraft debris, it would have been much more disbursed than that right now. regardless, there's something holding it together. something is keeping it in that 20-kilometer area. if it's going out, it could be in any direction after that. >> you bet they'll get those planes out there and the boats out there trying to find that area as soon as possible. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> david, john thank you so much for that. next, we head back to perth australia. new details are really coming in by the minute as planes begin to return to the search area. stay with us. to buy a passat tdi clean diesel. husband: so it's like two deals in one? 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>> reporter: we are learning that they are a tantalizing lead. the important thing is to try to link those satellite images to the surface search being done by aircraft and ships in the area they're trying to concentrate. until they can do that, we cannot confirm they have a direct link to flight 370. it's something that's encouraging for people that they're finding more of this. this is the fourth satellite finding that we have to work on right now. that's going to be up to the ace trail january-led -- australian-led effort. here in kuala lumpur, we are looking toward the investigation into any possible people, any possible motives. no progress announced on that front. but we know the chinese were here today in kuala lumpur. they were meeting with the prime minister, with the transport minister. they were talking about the inmarsat data. the families were very upset that this was declared that their family members were lost and that there was no hope. they want a reexamination of the data. the chinese have been here in kuala lumpur to do exactly that. >> all right. thanks so much there in kuala lumpur. let's turn to christine romans in new york. >> we start with the death toll in washington. that death toll now as high as 24. more than 170 people are listed as missing. 16 bodies have been recovered in this grim search. authorities say they've recovered eight other victims, but they're unable to reach them. they're still holding out hope of finding survivors. some people might have more time to sign up for obamacare. the deadline is monday. government officials say there's already a surge in demand that could slow the process down. people will have to prove that they ran into technical problems. despite the tensions between the u.s. and rash, a new americanry -- american-russian crew blastd off. they're scheduled to reach the space station tomorrow. amazing video from houston where a construction worker -- this guy is lucky to be a live. >> oh my god. >> is that a construction guy? 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back to the breaking news, in just the past hour, malaysian officials revealed 122 possible objects of debris. they caution it's not clear yet if they are from flight 370. some of the families are now taking legal action, initiating a multi-million lawsuit against malaysia airlines. here with us is justin green. i'll do my best to work through this with you. i want to get to the litigation that has been filed in a moment. but i think one of the questions remains for a lot of people, given the fact that they have not physically got their hands on the wreckage or debris, what can the families pursue in terms of litigation without that debris? >> the only thing the families can really pursue would be claims against malaysia airlines. wa they need to have first is declaration that they're loved one is dead, that have to bring a wrongful death lawsuit against the airline. that lawsuit is going to be governed by an international treaty called the montreal convention. it says, number one, where can you file a lawsuit. have few of the families are going to be able to file lawsuits in the united states. >> bulk from china, several from malaysia. >> unless you bought your ticket in the united states or you're from the united states, all those lawsuits are going to have to be filed in china, malaysia or somewhere else overseas. >> that's where it takes an attorney to comb through that fine print. talk about the death certificate. how easy would it be for a family member to do that now? is it too early in the game for a family to pursue that? >> no, it's not. if someone goes missing, every state has different laws on how to do it in absence of a body. here they have come out and basically declared everyone dead. >> that declaration is important in this part of the investigation correct? >> that's right. it is very important. >> so in terms of the litigation the family can pursue, if they don't know the cause of why that plane came down, they can't necessarily sue boeing for mechanical error, right? >> that's right. plaintiffs have the burden of proof. in order to pursue a claim against boeing, you'd have to prove that the airplane was defective and that a defect in the airplane caused the crash. there's been a lawsuit -- well, it's not really a lawsuit. >> explain what happened. >> a law firm from chicago filed what is known as prelawsuit discovery petition. it's premature. as a lawyer, i think it's embarrassing. >> oh, you do? >> i do. i don't think it's a legitimate lawsuit. i don't think it's going to go anywhere. >> is it not in an effort to get malaysia airlines to show the information they have? >> i don't think they're going to be under the jurisdiction of the cook county, illinois, court. secondly, this law firm, filed the same type of petition after the asiana crash. the court dismissed it without waiting for a motion. this whole process, you have the entire world together looking for this accident. you have people in churches and synagogues praying for these people and a legal profession who is responding very responsibly for the most part. >> there's been a great deal of criticism from the families, especially china has been particularly critical of the malaysian government's handling of this. do you see any lawsuit involving the malaysian government? >> no. this goes back to the king is immune from lawsuits. governments are not subject to being held accountable for their actions unless they waive their sovereign immunity. the united states have for certain things. but in this circumstance, i don't believe malaysia is going to be held liable to the families. now politically, it's out of my area, but that's a whole different story. >> justin green, thank you so much for answering some of these questions we have about litigation. i think we will be seeing more suits being filed. lots of breaking developments this morning. let's get to our top story. >> new satellite images were able to identify 122 potential objects. >> chinese relatives of those on board flight 370 demanding answers. >> a responsible conclusion with no direct evidence. newly released 911 calls capture the shock. >> it collapsed on several of them and they're trapped. >> do they see him? oh my god. oh my god. good morning. welcome to "new day." it is wednesday the 26th of march. it is 7:00 in the east. almost 7:00 in the east. i'm michaela pereira along with john berman. we begin with breaking news this morning. malaysian officials announced 122 objects spotted by satellites. >> it is unclear if this debris has anything to do with missing flight 370, but officials say it's a big part of moving forward in this search which really intensified today. let's get back to kate bolduan live with the very latest. >> reporter: good morning once again. as you mentioned the breaking news, 122 objects. this could be leads. this could be possible debris picked up by satellite in the southern indian ocean west of where we are in perth. they're different sizes and colors. they're being described some bright meaning -- i guess people are thinking that they could be metal. here's what the malaysian transport minister said just last hour. >> in one area of the ocean, we're able to identify 122 potential objects. some objects were a meter in length, others were as much as 23 meters in length. some of the objects appear to be bright, possibly indicating solid material. the objects were located approximately 2,557 kilometers from perth. >> reporter: he describes them as some 23 meters in size. that could be 75 feet. a dozen planes and at least five ships went out today to try to locate debris. three pieces were spotted. it's unclear if they are from the jetliner. also, investigators are looking into a newly discovered partial ping, as they call it, sent by the plane. with this new information about more debris being spotted on a is the light image coming from a french company is launching new hope. but of course, you have to offer a healthy dose of caution because we're not there yet. let's bring in jim chancy in kuala lumpur for the very latest. i want to get your take on what we heard out of this press conference today. >> reporter: once again, those tantalizing details. but as you rightly note, what we have to do is not only get an aerial locater on that, but you have to get a ship in there to go up close to investigate any or all of the pieces they can locate in order to determine whether or not they have a direct link to fright 370. it is only then that they can say this is a potential debris field from an airliner that went down in the indian ocean and then they can track backwards. details, includes, exactly what this search needs right now. but it also needs that verification of the two things so they can can move forward with the investigation, move forward with further underwater exploration that might reveal the location of any submerged objects and specifically those objects related to the flight data recorders. on another front here, today we're hearing from the transport minister for foreign affairs was here meeting with the prime minister and other officials specifically being debriefed on what was found on the inmarsat data that was used to say the plane likely lost all souls aboard and went down in the indian ocean, far from any potential landing strip, all souls lost. that has upset chinese families. china wanted clarification, they are getting that. china one of the members of this working group that is being established. they are trying to narrow down the search area. new information coming in. it is very important to have. john berman, back to you. >> all right. jim chancy,ty so much. laying out the breakig news. we want to dive down deeper into that. let's bring in our experts, david suecy and from wa cnn aviation analyst miles o'brien. miles, i want to start with you. the news in just a few minutes ago, 122 pieces of possible debris sighted ranging in size up to 70 feet. the colors, many of them perhaps brightly-colored. in the area located in a much smaller zone than we've been dealing with today. how significant? >> well, we've had two days of really significant news here, i think, john. we heard about this half ping, if you will. this sort of partial communication between the aircraft and the immarch sat satellite yet which very likely might have been its last position roughly. and now this. a debris field with more than a hundred objects, some of them very large. couple those two things together, and i think we certainly are in the neighborhood here. as you were discussing a little while ago, this debris field does not mean that they are at the crash site. the currents at that part of the ocean are such that it could be quite a bit of distance. fortunately the experts know about the currents and can sort of march backward from the debris field, but there's a very good chance that this could be the break we've all been waiting for. >> we were talking about the size of some of the pieces. that is significant to you? >> it certainly is. to me, from the time we first got the report of a 78-foot object, i kept thinking it's possible that's a wing. it was empty, the fuel was out of it. there's bulkheads that would prevent too much water to get in there. it has potential to be a wing that's floating. >> i do want to get to the partial handshake in a second. let's stay on the debris that was spotted for one moment. the number of pieces to me, 122, i called it casually a debris field in pathsing. is that a fair way to describe it? does that make a debris field? >> i think 122 would make a debris field. i don't know the exact definition, but i think we can agree that's what we're seeing here. you're right. the size of the pieces is an important piece of the puzzle. it's interesting to think that a wing could main stain its integrity despite an immakt like that. as we saw in the case of the air france cash, there were large pieces still floating. >> if a plane were to send, to somehow go down in the water there, how many pieces might you expect to find? where does 122 fit in that range? >> that would fit in the range of a debris field you would see after a plane crash. there's all kinds of things in an airplane that would rise to the surface. and if they maintain enough structural integrity, big pieces could indeed float. >> the key of course here is this picture was taken on sunday. planes have been flying over head since then. today they came back and said we spotted maybe three objects. we don't know if any of those are connected. let's shift to the news of the partial handshake de detected by inmarsat. what we know from inmarsat is that this plane was checking in at regular intervals as it was flying in this southern corridor. at regular intervals. at the end, though, there was an irregular interval, shall we say. explain to me the significance of this. >> to me, it means something really significant. that is that the satellite attempted again to contact the satellite. but not on a regular basis. that means some event occurred. that sat com system is designed to take information or to receive it. if there's an electrical fault or perhaps the engines run out of fuel, go out, that does cause the bus to reset. it shifts over from one power source to the other. during that time would be the ideal time when you would expect that sat kcom reset itself. >> inmarsat said it wasn't done manually. miles, you think this partial handshake is a very, very big development? >> yes. and that key point there that it wasn't somebody pushing a button is worth putting out. this is an airliner that clearly was running out of fuel. they don't go out simultaneously. they're drawing off of separate fuel tanks. usually the left engine goes first. either in the process of the flame-out of the one engine, you would have had an electrical disturbance. or this windmill device drops out of the plane. it's basically a tur -- turbine. that would cause some sort of voltage distur dance or pike. that could be reawakened the transmission enough to say, hello. >> i think this is what the french satellite saw on sunday. this is what we now agree could be a possible debris field. miles o'brien, you're saying wow, wow, why? >> that's not just an isolated palate. that's something to go see. i sure hope those aircraft are able to get on scene. >> david? >> yes, absolutely. that's the first time i've seen that shot. it looks eerily familiar to other accidents i've seen on the water. >> all right. we're going to take another look. sit tight. get with that. analyze a little bit. we'll talk about it in a little bit. the news today, possible debris field, some 122 objects found off the coast of perth, australia. we're waiting. all right, john. pardon me. we'll get back to the breaking news. we're also following developments from washington state. the number of dead in a huge mudslide north of seattle has jumped to as high as 24. it has now been three days sanes sign of life was detected. but searchers insist it is still a rescue operation. we are live in arlington, washington to bring us the latest on the efforts today. >> reporter: good morning. certainly, they are still searching for potential survivo survivors, but the death toll is rising. 16 people now confirmed dead and officials believe they've identified another eight victims in the wreckage and are hoping to recover those bodies today. the weather conditions have certainly impacted the search and rescue and recovery operation. we've seen a lot of rain in the past 24 hours. dry right now, which is a good sign. it's definitely making for some tough conditions. in places, it's like quick sand. in other places one emergency personnel responder described it as walking on ice, that the ground could give way underneath their feet. we do know they are really trying to work quickly. they've brought in local, state, and federal emergency rescue operators who are using everything from search dogs to sonar equipment as they continue to go over what's a massive amount of debris. includes 50 homes and cars that are under this wreckage. the task of moving some of this debris has also begun. that task of moving all the debris could take weeks. at this point, the focus still remains on finding those potential victims. >> all right. we should point out ahead we're going to speak with somebody that has the agonizing wait waiting to hear of the fate of his loved one. the russia-ukraine crisis is expected to dominate today's european summit. president obama slamming russia at the hague tuesday dismissing russia as a regional power who is threatening neighbors out of weakness. we are joined from brus ls with the latest. >> reporter: good morning. today, president obama will meet with leaders of the eu and nato. what an added significance those coalitions have taken on precisely because of the situation in ukraine. the white house has wanted to make this trip not to be all about the ukraine situation. but inevitably he has been dogged by questions, sometimes very difficult questions about the u.s.'s response and whether it's been enough. some of the president's remarks really turned heads yesterday when he called russia a regional poir saying russia is coming from a position of weakness and isolation and called the massing of troops a show of intimidation. obviously not everybody feels that way and the president has been asked has the u.s. miss calculated the intentions in this case. they say they remain deeply concerned about the situation and the u.s. and the eu are ready to act further isolating russia as the situation continues. >> all right. thanks so much. certainly some interesting comments from the president yesterday. >> indeed. let's get to christine romans. >> good morning again. three secret service agents have been sent home from the netherlands after one was found passed out drunk. they were in amsterdam sunday. they were believed to be members of the counter assault team. the alleged behavior violates secret service rules after the 2012 prostitution scandal. government officials giving people extra time to sign up. the deadline is monday to get coverage for the year or face penalties. by the white house says a surge in last-minute demand could slow down the enrollment process. ukrainian troops leaving crimea by the thousands. the troop buildup fueling growing concern that russian forces are now positioned to move into ukraine if and when they're ordered to do so. they say the u.s. still does not know russia's intentions on the border. traffic is flowing once again at the port of houston. the coast guard partially reopened the busy shipping channel after an oil spill shut it down for three days. it spilled 177,000 gallons of crude oil into the water. thanks so much. next up for us on "new day," the families of the people aboard flight 370 saying malaysia airlines not taking 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this picture was taken on sunday. a 122 objects in a much smaller range than we've seen before. that was taken sunday. if it was found in that search area we've been looking at down here on the map, what could the currents have done to it by now? >> at this stage, we expect the debris, if that is the debris, will be drawn out into filaments. what starts as an initial clump will be drawn out into a long filament. that's probably what we're seeing now. that's in the process of happening. that's what -- that's what physically we expect the currents will do to this debris. >> if it was together like that on sunday, by now it may have been strained out. i also want to point out an area you showed me before. the brighter line of currents right there. >> that's the an arctic current, the strongest, fastest current in the world ocean. it's full of energetic eddies. those swirling motions are what's responsible for disbursing this bree and also moving the whole clump of it to the east. >> we know that picture, again, was taken on sunday. we also know today, that planes, more than they've had yet, were flying overhead. there were five ships in the search areas. the ships haven't seen anything yet. we don't know if they've reached the area, but even if you're close, it can be hard to see these things. >> oh, absolutely. if i'm up here looking down, you see how much more he can see that way. now you're on the water, constantly up and down and you're trying to figure it out. from the advantage of the satellite, you can pick the most calm time to take their picture. in the ship, you don't have that option. you can't hit the freeze button. it's a different world out there. >> ryan, the 122 objects clumped together, even though it was on sunday, that was still two full weeks after this plane disappeared. that is a lot of objects still to be clumped close together. you say the currents work to spread them apart, but can they work to keep them together? >> yes. that can absolutely happen too, on the short term. within the first month or so, it's possible they can be funneled into a coherent structure and stay together. the more time passes, the more likely it is they'll all be spread apart. that makes it harder and harder to work backwards to figure out the original location of the crash where the black box is presumably waiting. >> even if those 122 objects found on sunday are connected to flight 370, that doesn't mean it is where the flight ended. it does not mean that is where the moment of impact was. >> that's correct. i'm encouraged with the fact that we have that out of sequence ping which narrows that part of it down a little bit more. had that ping occurred half an hour or 45 minutes after the previous ping, we wouldn't have nearly as much information as it was only a few minutes after the most recent ping. we know it was in a specific spot, then we have a short span of time. >> they're splitting up now, about 12 planes flying. we understand they're flying to the west, to the west of the search area. and then you have the ships coming in from the other direction. explain that. >> you asking me? >> yes. >> well, like we said, there's a huge potential area that this could be spread out over. from the original krach site, it's all -- crash site, it's all drifting east. it makes sense to spread the search out in longitude along a huge swath. presumably that's the way all the debris is spreading out. >> so the plane could spot it and it would drift towards the ships as they move in. thank you for helping explain what we're seeing again. 122 possible debris spotted. up next, much more on the breaking news. also we're going to talk about the families now lashing out at malaysia airlines for promises that these families claim are not being kept. snipe that's why we partnered with hp to build the new nascar fan and media engagement center. hp's technology helps us turn millions of tweets, posts and stories into real-time business insights that help nascar win with our fans. 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>> you know, the '80s called, they want their foreign policy back. that's how scorn fully president obama referred to mitt romney. he said he considered russia to be the number one political foe of the united states. with me this morning to share their reporting and insights, peter baker of the new york times. let's watch the president answer. john kale from abc asked the question. if you call on john call, you're going to get this kind of a question. >> with respect to mr. romney's assertion that russia's our number one geo flil foe, they don't pose the number win national security threat to the nights. i continue to be much more concerned when it comes to our security with the prospect of a nuclear weapon going off in manhattan. >> so you guys know how this process works. that's a big jarring at the end. number one -- part of it is, they're at this nuclear security summit. they were running around doing table top exercises. they nigh they were going to get a tough question about the criticism back home. he bites his lip before he answers. he's thinking, how far do i want to go here in going back at mitt romney. >> we've both gotten that look too. >> you much more than me. >> he's like, thank you very much for that question. he's trying to figure out if he wants to make it a rehash of the 2012 election. or does he want to say eyes on the prize. is he just trying to make this whole thing go away. a lot running through his head at this time. >> he tries to diminish mitt romney and russia. it's not that big a deal in effect is what he's saying, just as he's saying mitt romney was wrong. in the end, he's trying -- trying to address the criticism back home that he's been weak, naive, miss judged vladimir putin and he's trying to push back on that. he's trying to say, look, there's bigger things going on in the world. let's watch the bigger picture. >> as this plays out, you have both the president overseas. michelle obama is overseas. the deadline for enrollment in obamacare is in a few days. now they're going after moms to try to pressure young people to sign up. including the actor jonah hill' mom. >> seriously, do you want your mother to have a nervous break down? you need to have health insurance. it's not too much to ask in my opinion. >> we nag you because we love you. >> look, they've been clever here. trying to do everything they can. some people think it's beneath the presidency. the question is for all this smart marketing and pushing, are they going to get there? >> well, if they keep delaying it long enough. they'll get pretty close to the numbe numbers, the split between old people and young healthy people is still very much in doubt. this latest slide is like a push. it's not like a huge loophole. >> if you're jonah hill, call your mother. the idea is to attract a generation of people who are not sitting around listening to cnn every day as they should. they feel invincible and need somebody to nudge them. >> i mentioned the first lady was overseas. the white house was very clear, before michelle obama's trip, that this was not a political trip. they were showing the image of generations of family. now several times, two or three, she has raised some issues. listen to this. this is michelle obama speaking yesterday. there are laws in america that allow discrimination against black people like me. over time, ordinary citizens decided that those laws were unfair. subtle, but important in a country like china that persecutes minorities. >> they've kind of down played, frankly, the historic nature of their presence in the who is. it was so inspiring to the world in 2008 and 2009. has the been the main focus. to hear her speak in those terms again reminds you of the potential power they do have, particularly in a country like china. >> you come over with a soft message. she gently raised it. however, i would say the chinese television has not shown those remarks. in their long speech at the university, they did pull the full transcript. >> it's really interesting. it's also interesting the way the white house said the trip did not take a traveling press pool from the united states. what it really is, sort of down play the idea that it's a political trip. and get the reporters that are a foreign correspondent in china. >> what a shift now to what i'll call sometimes politicians say the darnedest things. he wants to be the next democratic senator for the state of iowa. a tracker catches him as he in1u89 insults the state's senior republican senator and more. >> to put this in stark contrast, if you help me win this race, you may have someone with your background, your experience, your voice, someone who's been literally fighting tort reform for 30 years in a visible and public way on the senate judiciary committee, or you might have a farmer from iowa who never went to law school, never practice lay serving as the next chair. >>? a word, i think it's called pandering. you're saying i will fight efforts to have lawsuit reform, but you insult your senior senator. to me, the image, he's standing next to this fancy bar cart telling the people of iowa you have this dumb hick lawyer in the senate. >> the trifecta, right. it's like the mitt romney video all over again. it's a bad day for him. >> is it enough to put those seats -- most people think it's the out liar. is that enough. when house candidates run stayed wide, sometimes they make mistakes. >> it's like football. he's the only democrat. doesn't have a competition in the primary. the republicans have three candidates running. he has a lot of time to get over it. >> back to new york. mr. berman and your partners there, i don't know how your brackets are doing. mine is doing quite miss rably. they had a brief moment showing duke celebrating a national championship. so he's in trouble for that. he had to apologize. showing you the video here. >> let's go out there and do it. >> hash tag, fail. >> his democrat opponent picked wichita state and her bracket then has florida beating louisville. pick the kentucky team. >> the president picked swing states doing the brackets back during campaigns. it's simple politics, john. >> clearly we all have. >> next up on "new day," a potential break through in the hunt for flight 370. a big field of objects has been spotted in the ocean by satellites. plus the desperate search for the missing in washington state. we will speak to a family member looking for his father next. how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? 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>> we knew that they were working in that area. he lets us know where he's going to be and his expected time to be home. so we knew when we heard that the mudslide was in that area, that he was close to it in or in it. >> how did you get an indication that something bad had happened? >> i was actually at work and i received a call from my wife. and she informed me on the situation. and so after that, it was just making sure that nobody else that we knew was in there and checking on the rest of the family. then trying to coordinate efforts to find my father. >> you talked about bill and your dad, steve, his partner bill. you talk about the folks you know. we understand these are really tight-knit community. how's the community dealing with this? it has such an impact on such a tight-knit community. >> darrington has always pulled together in times of need. i can tell you from being up visiting my mother just while i was there, we had people stopping by, giving her hugs, people dropping by with food and just checking to see if they needed anything. it's really nice how -- how the people have really pulled together to make sure that she's taken care of in her time of need. >> isn't that when community most counts? give us an idea of what authorities are telling you. are they giving you regular updates and briefings? >> we're getting the same briefings that everybody else is getting, the same information that's going out across the news is the same thing we're getting from the town hall meetings and local officials. so really, we don't know anything more than you guys do. >> as a resident of the area, were you at all concerned about the landslide possibility or potential in the area? >> there was a previous landslide that had diverted the river. we knew that it was a landslide area. some officials had come out, surveyed the area and reinforced it. but just the magnitude of this landslide, there really wasn't much that they were going to do to hold it back. as far as i know, they were monitoring the potential for the landslide, but nobody really knew that this was going to happen like this. >> it comes as a shock to so many people. tell us a little bit more about your dad, steve. >> my dad's just a caring person, has a very strong faith and a strong belief that you need to do what's right. and i know that if -- even if he's in trouble and there's any glimmer of hope, he's going to be doing everything he can to keep the people around him alive and safe and well. he's always put others before himself. and so we're -- we're just keeping faith and hope in his ability to survive. he was a survival enthoous yast. he did enjoy trying to find ways to survive in extreme conditions. hopefully those -- those skills are serving him well. >> he's got a good son ryan. we appreciate you telling us a little bit about your dad. we add our hope to yours that your dad and his partner, bill, will be wrong the survivors. send our best wishes to the community there as they struggle to deal with this disaster. >> thank you very much. >> our hearts go out to those families and all those families dealing with this right now. >> i was thinking about the connection to the malaysian situation. the agonizing wait. it's torture. next up for us on "new day," back to flight 370. crews wrapping up another day of searching for that plane. even with the new satellite images that are raising some hope, families still frustrated with the response from malaysia. we'll hear from one of them right after the break. for the first time, you can use nicorette even if you slip up, so you can reach your goal. now, quit on your own terms with nicorette or nicoderm cq. when folks in the lower 48 think athey think salmon and energy.a, but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. thousands of people here in alaska are working to safely produce more energy. but that's just the start. to produce more from existing wells, we need advanced technology. that means hi-tech jobs in california and colorado. the oil moves through one of the world's largest pipelines. maintaining it means manufacturing jobs in the midwest. then we transport it with 4 state-of-the-art, double-hull tankers. some of the safest, most advanced ships in the world: built in san diego with a $1 billion investment. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. and no energy company invests more in the u.s. than bp. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. welcome back to "new day." there is breaking news. 120 pieces of possible debris, objects spotted by satellite over the indian ocean. it's unclear though if they belong to flight 370. the longer the search, the more painful the experience for families of 239 passengers and crew on the flight. they, in fact, are now accusing the airline of cutting back on personnel and not keeping their promises to care for the families. pauline chu joins us from beijing and for the first time live she has an interview with a family member in beijing. pauline. >> reporter: michaela, i want to introduce you to steven wong. he's from beijing. his mother, a retired chemistry teacher, is on the flight. steve and i have been talking the past couple of days off camera. steve, now you're ready to give your message to the world. initially you didn't want to do media interviews but now you've become so frustrated with what's going on. what exactly are you asking for on this day, day 18 as we wrap up this day? >> well, me and most of the relatives here are seeking for the truth, the truth about what happened to the plane and the truth about where it was. that's what we want. >> why don't you believe the data and the answers from the malaysian government? because you have said time and time again that you believe the malaysian government is hiding something. >> yes. >> why do you believe that? >> well, because the conclusion is just by a theory, just by analysis from the satellite data. there are no direct evidence that shows that they saw some of the things from the plane, nothing found. so i don't believe any such kind of conclusion. >> now the data from the satellite company and from the u.k. aviation authority has been collected and the malaysian authorities have taken that into account. and when you take into account also the amount of fuel that the plane would have had at that point, they're saying the logical conclusion is that it was in this part of the southern corridor in the southern third indian ocean. why is that not good enough for you? >> because it is still a theory. it is just still an analysis. no one have seen anything, and they just said where it should be, where it might be, and it should turn back or it should -- and they said that it is based on the basically speed for the whole theory, but if the plane tried to hide, i don't believe it. >> the families have been having these meetings with the high level delegation from malaysia. you've asked very, very technical questions, even questions about the civilian radar and military radar. >> yeah. yeah. >> have you asked the question about after 1:00 a.m. when the civilian radar lost contact with the plane and after 2:00 a.m. with military radar losing contact, have you asked the question about whether or not the civilian radar team passed on their information to the military radar team? and what have they said to the families? >> well, what they said is i think ridiculous because they said we are -- first they said we are in the same office so we lose contact from the civil radar, they said we noticed the military so that they -- they could help us. and after that they said, oh, we are in the same building so it take time for us to notice the military side. well, from the beginning it was ridiculous. they gave different answers several times. and they also said that we -- and last they confirmed that we have the tracking on the military radar from the beginning but they didn't do anything. >> let's talk about your level of hope. a few days ago when you and i talked you had said that you're realistic, but at the same time you feel that most families are sort of 80% ready for bad news, 20% hoping for good news still. today what do you think in terms of hope? >> to me i think it might be 5% that there is still hope and -- but most of the families don't believe that it might be bad news. most of the families still think that there will be hope. >> when you say 5% hope for yourself, hope for what? >> yeah. that it was still maybe negotiating by the hijacker and the government or something like that and they're just -- they're just talking with some of the hijackers or something like that, that they're still negotiating. if they make a deal, maybe our family back. >> so you still have a sliver of hope in a very convoluted way, you're hoping that this was a hijacking situation? >> yes. yes. there is no evidence that shows that it is not a hijacking. >> steve, thank you so much for your time. i know it's been a really emotional and exhausting 18 days. we really appreciate it. so michaela, i can tell you that initially these relatives were very, very reticent and hesitant to speak with the media, but now they're so frustrated that they've turned grief into action and now they've come together. they've formed a committee. you saw that protest yesterday in front of the malaysian embassy. they're trying to speak with one voice and get the information out. >> we should point that out. if any of you were noticing the t-shirt that steven was wearing, pray for those on mh-370, pray for their safe return. pauline chiou, thank you so much. next up on "new day" the breaking news out of perth on the flight of 370. more objects spotted by satellite. could they be from the plane? 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is a possible new lead in this search that really intensified today as crews did get a break from weather, but all the planes have now returned and only found three objects by sight that did not really appear to be connected to the plane. our kate bolduan is in perth, australia, with the very latest. kate? >> reporter: good morning once again, guys. there's a renewed sense of cautious optimism that we could be closer to finding malaysia flight 370. there are satellite images showing 122 objects, possible debris in the same area of the ipd an ocean where the search has been focused since late last week. on this 19th day of searching, a dozen planes and five ships had a narrow window of time to search for the missing jet. they came away with three pieces of debris being spotted. as investigators analyze a partial ping from the plane that came nearly seven hours after it dropped off radar. this morning malaysian authorities say they've received new satellite images possibly showing debris from flight 370. >> we were able to identify 122 potential objects. we have now had four separate satellite leads from australia, from china, and france showing possible debris. it is now imperative that we link the debris to mh-370. >> reporter: in australia the country's prime minister voicing optimism that something will turn up. >> a considerable amount of debris has been sitghted in the area where the flight was last recorded. bad weather and inaccessibility has so far prevented any of it being recovered, but we are confident that some will be. >> reporter: this as special equipment from the u.s. like this unmanned underwater robot arrives in perth, australia. the special equipment includes a blue fin underwater vehicle to search for wreckage at depths more than 14,000 feet. also, a toad pinger locator. it can search up to 20,000 feet. five ships from six countries. this multi-national effort still faces huge challenges as they scour more than 600,000 square miles of ocean and have yet to locate any of the suspected debris spotted by search planes monday. this as new information ee americans about flight 370's time light. new satellite indication shows the plane may have sent out a partial signal around 8:19 the morning it disappeared, possiblefully showing it was still flying or indicating the moment it went down. >> we'll continue to follow all the moments from pearce air force base from perth, australia. let's go back to john in new york. >> thank you so much, kate. let's talk about this breaking news. we did learn a few hours ago this french satellite taking pictures of what could be 122 pieces of possible debris in the southern indian ocean. let's bring in cnn aviation analyst david soucie and slate contributor jeff wise. they're both here in the studio. we'll bring in shawn prucnicki. these satellite images taken from the french satellite. the pictures were taken sunday, march 23rd. they show 122 pieces of possible debris ranging in size all the way up till about 70 feet clumped together in a relatively small area. what do you make of this? >> well, i think certainly this is very compelling. this is probably the first piece of evidence that we have that really starts to lend credibility to possibly that we're finding some of the debris field. but cautious on tow mission would be the way that i would characterize this. that it is certainly possible that this could be something else, but i think with just the sheer number of pieces that are part of this new piece of evidence lending far more credibility that maybe we have found something. >> jeff, what about that? what about the sheer number of pieces spotted by this satellite on sunday, 122? certainly we haven't seen that number before. >> no. i don't know whether that makes you more optimistic or less. it's been in the water for a long time and we know that these pieces are going to tend to disperse over time. all we can try to do is find it. we've had a poor record of locating these pieces that seem to be very compelling satellite imagery when we go back with boats and planes to try to find it later we come up empty handed so far. >> in fact, the planes are all back to perth australia. 12 planes, more than have flown yet were out today. all they reported seeing were three pieces of possible debris they think may be rope or a few of them. they don't seem terribly excited about what they saw. nothing from the search vessels, from the ships. david soucie, why are we getting these images from satellites that we can't seem to match by plane or by ship? >> you know, i don't really have a good answer for that except that when you're on that ship, you've got 20 to 50 foot swells. you're going up and down and the waves are going up and down. everything you see even momentarily changes all the time. from a ship i can understand it. from the airplanes flying over top, you would think they would see that. they're constantly changing. the waves on top of the swells are changing it. there is one good thing that came out in my mind. they flew over the area that they had identified was that. i'm sure they put up sono buoys. they're able to track that flow. they're not starting from scratch trying to find where they were, they can start where they were tomorrow and expand from there. so there's ways during that search, i'm not a search expert, but i've seen them work before. once they have the sono buoy in there, they can use that to critically expand that area. >> a smarter, more concise effort to be sure. shawn, you're nodding to that a little bit. does the number of pieces found, the 122, does that lend credence to any possible one theory about how this flight may have ended? >> no, actually, it doesn't. it really doesn't help us at all other than just tell us that if these are airplane parts, obviously the airplane went in the water, but it doesn't tell us how it ended up in the water or if it went in under control versus out of control. so, still a long ways from being able to make that type of determination. >> that, of course, is even if these objects are ever found and if they are known to be connected to flight 370. i know you know that. jeff wise, the other key piece of information over the last two days, some people think it's critical, is word of the partial handshake between the partial handshake and the imarrsat satellite. after the regular intervals there was one that was irregular, this partial handshake. explain what that is. >> this is another piece of evidence where we got one thing and it turned out to be another. it turns out those pings were not being received at regular intervals. new data shows some of them came very closely, spaced two minutes apart, gaps of an hour, then regularly spaced, irregularly spaced. we don't know what it means. we need to get more information about why they were spaced the way they were, what kind of conditions aboard the plane would have led to such spacing. what triggered ooech pulsyinigg. we don't know that. all we have to go on in terms of -- everything we know about the fate of this aircraft is from the analysis of these pings. these pings were not intended to carry any information. >> new math from a new device in a new way. david susie, you suggested to me that perhaps the partial handshake was the plane reaching out trying to give information. >> yeah, for me that's the only explanation for it. as far as the reliance of the schedule of these pings, the last three or four were every hour. the ones before that were not. there were attempts and it couldn't connect. so there was times when it did that. what concerns me is there was a full hour, a little bit more, where there was nothing, but then after that you had regular for three pings in a row, you had regular hourly reports. typical of the sat com. it says, i'm here, do i have anything to report. if the acars was connected and providing data, at that time that's when the data would have been batch processed and sent together. this last one to me is really important because it indicates for two reasons, one, it indicates an event occurred and the sat com was trying to communicate that. it was an irregular event. i'm speculating. it would be indicative that the power source changed or there was an event that was reported to the sat com. >> they say it was just the plane, the mechanics, the electronics of the plane sending that. shawn, thank you. david soucie, you're saying it was the plane, not a human being, you were nodding to that? >> yes. very key point. >> jeff wise, thank you for being with us. appreciate it. back to our breaking news in a moment. jo john, thanks so much. we're following developments from seattle. the grim toll from a huge landslide this weekend. as many as 24 deaths. scores of people are still missing. many of them are feared dead. the hope of finding any survivors in mud that is 30 to 40 feet thick. cnn's anna cabrera live in arlington, washington. really tight knit communities. i can only imagine they're reeling. >> reporter: everybody is just heart broken, as you can imagine, but really pulling together with such strength and grace in this community during tough times, michaela. they're calling this a rescue and recovery operation. they acknowledge it's been four days since the landslide hit, haven't heard any signs of human life since saturday, but they believe in miracles and they're moving forward with the search with that sense of purpose and determination. but you do get a sense in this community that there is a cloud of grief that is now permeating the area. >> it's horrible because i know she's down there under the mud in the dark. >> reporter: it has been the darkest four days of rae smith's life. >> my heart is broken. it's broken. she was my best friend. >> reporter: smith's daughter, summer raffo, is among the missing. the 36-year-old was driving to work when the massive landslide broke loose flattening homes and crushing cars. >> i've got a big emergency. there is a house on 530 and a big slide and it is covering the road. >> reporter: newly released 911 calls capture the shock and the panic that overtook this tight knit community. >> my neighbor's house and their neighbor's house has been completely taken out. and it's collapsed on several of them and they're trapped. >> reporter: four days into the search people are still trapped. >> my family has been down there digging for her since saturday afternoon. >> reporter: aaron bright, focused, determined charged into the disaster zone against official's orders. >> i wanted to rescue people. i wanted to find people that were still alive. >> reporter: instead the horror he witnessed now haunts him. >> it's no fun finding bodies. it's no fun doing any kind of work like that. >> reporter: smith has lost hope that her daughter somehow survived but says closure can come only if raffo is found. >> it just hurts so bad. it hurts so bad. i have 12 other children but not one of them can replace one that you lose. not one. >> reporter: so we're continuing to monitor the missing. we right now know there are still dozens unaccounted for and, again, the search for survivors is still what's helping to keep people going in this whole situation. we do have some new video of a survivor being pulled out of the wreckage. this was from saturday but, again, these images and these pictures are new. we want to show them to you. remember that 4-year-old boy we showed you in a still photo a couple of days ago. well, now we have video of his rescue from a helicopter camera and rescuers who came by helicopter and were able to pull him out from a house that was among the debris there. we understand that he has three half siblings and his father who were still trapped in the wreckage, buff he was rescued. his mother apparently was at work at the time. she wasn't able to make it back to the house when she heard of the mudslide and so he is among the survivors and the slight glimmer of hope or silver lining in such a tragic situation, michaela. >> that image of him in the arms of his rescuers will stick with people. thank you, ana, that gives us an idea of what rescuers are up against. the debris field we understand is one square mile wide. that is an incredible challenge to overcome. ana cabrera, thank you very much. >> amazing picture to see. >> it really is. also developing this morning, three secret service agents have been sent home from the netherlands for partying too hard. apparently all three were reportedly drinking and one of them allegedly was found passed out. those agents were in amsterdam sunday, a day before the president's trip to the hague. michelle kaczynski is live. >> this is a high profile, international trip. you don't see white house staffers caught up in this behavior, white house press. some would say by some miracle this is once again the secret service, three agents, part of a counter assault team arriving in amsterdam ahead of the president. apparently they went out for a night on the town and according to an official source, one ended up so drunk that he was passed out on the floor of the hallway in his hotel. adding to the embarrassment, it was hotel staffers that alerted u.s. officials to the problem. things were supposed to get better and rules tightened after that extremely unfortunate scandal in 2012 involving a number of secret service agents in cartajena. >> another black eye for the agency. thanks so much, michelle. >> not what they wanted. next up on "new day" we're following breaking news from the indian ocean. new satellite pictures showing possibly 122 pictures in the water. are these objects from flight 370? we'll have the latest. 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everyone. satellite images showing a possible debris field with 122 possible objects spotted in the southern indian ocean off the coast of australia, about 1500 miles off the coast. now all the planes searching for debris from malaysia flight 370, they're now back in australia. they did spot a couple objects today, three to be exact, but no word yesterday if they were linked to the jet liner. they don't seem too optimistic. they think they're seeing a couple pieces of rope probably not connected to the 122 pieces of debris. we want to bring in jeff wise. he's a contributor to slate. i want to bring up the photo, if i can, of this debris field spotted by satellite on sunday. there it is. this was taken by a french satellite on sunday. jeff, we have not seen a picture like this before of quite just this much debris. >> yes. i mean, something is there. we don't know if it's from the airplane necessarily, but it's encouraging that there's so much material there. we've had a hard time really locating anything in the water. >> hard time, indeed. now i should say that the flights have been leaving from perth. all 12 planes leaving from perth that took off this morning have returned there. as i said, found nothing of real significance, just three objects or so. why do you think that the planes are having a hard time finding what the satellites in space are seeing? >> well, it must be somehow ephemeral or it's moving quicker than we expect. ultimately we have to bear in mind the possibility that this search box that we're looking at is not where the airplane is. >> let's talk about that. the search flight, the so-called southern corridor, the plane was coming down here from the malaysia peninsula, flew south over the indian ocean to where this box is right now. you can see the plane flying down now. this is the area where they have been searching in that box. you think it's possible that's the wrong box? >> listen, this is based on a model. that's the reason we're here in the first case. because of the inmarsat ping data that they have been able to put into a formula and what you get if you assume a certain speed that this airplane was traveling, it puts you in this area. now, the model can be perfectly good, but if you put in the wrong speed, it's going to be here. the slower you go, the way the math works out, the slower you go, the further to the north the debris field should be located. >> it's possible the math is wrong. another possibility if we can bring up the ocean current here. this area where they are searching now, this box is just north. if you look at that bright line right there, that is an extremely powerful current. one of the most powerful in the world there that moves stuff very, very fast and could be dispersing what the satellites are seeing. >> gets back to the question why aren't we seeing four days later what we saw in the original image? it's because this tightly clumped debris is being separated and dispersed and it's no longer where it was. >> the size of that debris if we bring up that picture again, the size of the debris ranging in size from small to about 70 feet. the pieces are in some cases 70 feet long, 70 feet wide. why is that size significant? >> well, then you start to talk about the size of major structural components so we would love to get our hands on this and see. is this a piece of fuselage, a piece of wing? if it's not, that's a piece of information. negative information is still valid. it allows us to rule out one box which corresponds to a speed at which this airplane was traveling. it allows to refine the model. we know that at 8:11 it was somewhere along here. >> let's talk about that again. you're bringing up the partial handshake. 8:11 was the partial handshake. >> a few minutes after that. just to review, the plane was flying south again over the southern indian ocean again. 8:11 and then the partial handshake. >> right. so, what had previously been reported as the final transmission, 8:11, it was a full ping. now we're getting this new information that 8 minutes in there was a so-called partial ping. what they mean by partial ping has yet to be clarified. they're trying to clarify what it means. it might have something to do with a crash, the final moment of the plane. what would do know is that by 9:25 there was an attempt to communicate which failed so basically that's the end of our time line. we know about that time it's all over. >> it would. that would allow us to have a slightly better window. we're dealing with such a huge error window here. we don't know exactly how fast it was going. we don't know in what direction it was heading. the debris is being very elusive at this point. this is just a huge cloud of uncertainty that we're dealing with. >> trying to hone in on a specific area as they can. jeff wise, great to have you here with us. really appreciate it. michaela? >> thanks so much. next up on "new day." first they learned their loved ones are considered lost. now word of a potential large debris field found in the ocean. how much more can these families take? we're going to talk to a woman who knows exactly what they're going through. i've quit for 75 days. 15 days, but not in a row. for the first time, you can use nicorette even if you slip up, so you can reach your goal. now, quit on your own terms with nicorette or nicoderm cq. the was a truly amazing day. without angie's list, i don't know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. for over 18 years we've helped people take care of the things that matter most. join today at angieslist.com before using her new bank of america credit card, which rewards her for responsibly managing her card balance. before receiving $25 toward her balance each quarter for making more than her minimum payment on time each month. tracey got the bankamericard better balance rewards credit card, which fits nicely with everything else in life she has to balance. that's the benefit of responsibility. apply online or visit a bank of america near you. and welcome back to "new day" at half past the hour. let's get straight to christine romans for the 5ty-five things need to know. >> let's get to the five things. 122 pieces of debris spotted by satellite. they were in the same vicinity where the search was focused. a grim scene at the scene of a mudslide. the death toll as high as 24 with more than 170 people still listed as missing and unaccounted for. number three, a little breathing room for monday's obamacare deadline. some people could get extra time to enroll. they have to prove that technical problems kept them from finishing up on time. pope francis has accepted the resignation of germany's bling bishop. he's accused of squandering $42 million to build a new lavish compound and support his extravagant lifestyle. king digital begins trading today. they priced the ipo at $22.50. the list of risks in its securities filing 24 pages long. we're always updating the five things you need to know so go to newdaycnn.com for the latest. >> are you a candy crush gal or words with friends gal. >> i'm still using abicus. >> the commondor 64 -- >> pong is fantastic, i hear. >> thanks, christine. fans of "duck dynasty" are gearing up for tonight's season finale. the reality series came under the microscope this year following inflammatory comments from one of its stars, phil roberts robertson. we know robertson has a legion of defenders. first on that list, son and co-star willie robertson. he and his wife cory met with kyra phillips. >> hi, guys, i'll tell you what. it was quite a day. the robertson family unapologetic about their beliefs, i'm going to lay that out. they're very, very grateful for their success. they talk about it. one thing willie and cory told me, if it went away tomorrow, they would be okay. >> reporter: "duck dynasty's" robertson clan is in many ways the first family of the bayou, or at least of west monroe, louisiana. >> all right. so i might as well just break the ice and let y'all know we have a lot to come. i know my way around a weapon or two but i'm married to a robertson. so are we family? >> probably. >> i know he's not kin to me because he hasn't asked me for money. all the ones kin to me have asked me for money. >> reporter: the robertson's company buck commander and duck commander have grown into a multi-million dollar empire and their hit show "duck dynasty" has hit the top ranking of the most watched reality show in cable history. the robertson show is known for being deeply rooted in their faith. >> we're so thankful for everything you've given us. >> reporter: the couple now appearing in a new movie called "god's not dead." >> we're not trying to offend anybody. if they don't want to watch the show, turn the channel. >> willie, prove to me god is not dead. >> i think the whole part of that movie is that you can't prove it. it's something that you have to live out, which is faith. >> you can't prove it totally but you can't disprove it either so -- >> tonight marks the end of the fifth season of "duck dynasty" airing in the wake of the firestorm surrounding willie's father, phil. >> happy, happy, happy. >> reporter: phil spoke with "gq" magazine answering about sin this way. >> don't be deceived, neither the male pros citituteprostitutt inherit the kingdom of god. that drew fierce criticism. a&e suspended phil from the show for about a week after that article hit news stands. >> you said you wanted to clear the air about daddy phil. go for it. >> oh, my father, he made -- he made christmas very interesting for us. i remember doing that interview and this guy, i think he already had what he wanted to put and he was certainly, you know, asking specifically this and that and phil just said what he thought -- you know, what was on his heart. he didn't say it quite -- you know, he did some paraphrasing there. >> let's lay it out. he paraphrased first corinthians, right, where it talks about homosexuals, male prostitutes, drunkards, thieves, that they're all the same. is that what you believe? >> that's what first corinthians says. >> what does willie say? >> well, i believe what the bible says and so that's what he says to put those in. now you have to read the bible and make up your own mind. you have to decide and god will ultimately decide. we don't profess to be god and we certainly don't profess to be perfect at all because we have our own sins that we deal with. >> anybody -- anybody who knows him, any gay, straight, black, white, anybody who knows phil knows that he is about love and his message is about god's love and god's grace and god's forgiveness ultimately. >> and for him and for you, the bible is literal. that's how it is, right? >> that's how it's said. >> reporter: the robertsons are halfway through shooting season six. >> after all the controversy, now that we're back, i think we appreciate now being back to work. everybody's really happy and they're -- >> we took a little break for hunting season and had some time off. >> shooting this show doesn't get in the way of hunting season? >> no. no. >> not shooting the show. all the rest that comes along. >> reporter: so we tried to give willie some of that hunting time back, at least in the practice range. >> we are locked and loaded. >> okay. >> here we go. >> oh, boy. >> all right. >> how did i do? >> let's see where you were aiming. >> oh, i was aiming for the center. that's not bad. >> not bad. >> you're about, what's that, 2 1/2 inches off. >> yeah. >> pretty good for your first crossbow shot. >> this all goes away tomorrow, be honest with me, how does that hit the heart? >> totally fine. totally fine. yeah. we were happy before it, we'll be happy after f. this is it, this is it. we had a good run. >> we were able to use that platform to get out god's message. if it ended right there, it ended right there. i felt like that was pretty much what god prepared us to do. >> you know, guys, one thing that really stood out to me as a mom, i mean, this couple is definitely doing something right with their five kids. they've got three biological, two adopted. they're involved in this orphanage and these kids have fame, money, everything at their fingertips and i said, how do you keep those kids grounded? how do you keep them from being a justin bieber and lindsay lohan. bottom line, they love family and their faith is number one and you look at those kids and go, wow. all right. we definitely are doing something right. >> i agree with whatever you say and i saw what you did with that crossbow right now. i'm not about disagreeing. >> reporter: he told me i could bring home turkey dinner with that shot. that's all that matters. >> a whole lot more than turkey dinner. i'm afraid of you, kyra. i'm afraid of you. you have my utmost respect always. >> reporter: i love you. >> really good conversation. thanks so much for bringing it. >> reporter: you bet. next up on "new day," the family members of flight 370, they're starting to deal with the awful reality that their loved ones may be gone. we will speak with a woman who lost her fiance in a different disaster and hear her advice. it's coming up next. so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 a month? yup. all 5 of you for $175. our clients need a lot of attention. there's unlimited talk and text. we're working deals all day. you get 10 gigabytes of data to share. what about expansion potential? 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>> she was driving on the road. oh, yeah, she was driving. she was driving. she doesn't live anywhere down there or doesn't really know anyone as far as houses in the 35 houses that were consumed by this so she was driving down to there about eight miles past the slide area to go to a farm to shoe a horse and she never made it. never made it to her destination. >> you were talking about the 35 houses that were consumed in that area. we're getting some images. we've seen some video. you're right there on the ground. tell us, have you been to the area? i imagine they're not letting you get that close. give us an idea, paint a picture for us what it's like there. >> it's -- the area, it's absolutely chaotic destruction. it's devastation. it's -- you know, it's an area that i've driven through 25 years -- for the past 25 years and it's so changed. being out there on the ground is way, way, way different than what you're seeing from the air or even the shots from the view point where the press is being allowed to see and look in. you can recognize some landmarks but you can't recognize, you know, 95% of them. and it's just horrible. it's all one color. it's dirt, sand, rock, trees, logs, debris, cars and all strewn out across about 1.5 by 1.5 square mile area. it's just horrific. >> that's what makes the search effort so difficult, because you don't have point of reference to know where to begin to search for structures that were once there, even roads and highways washed out. >> yeah. right. exactly. when we were in there on monday we were in the heart of it and walking through and there were several times where i had to stop and get to a point and just try to get my bearings and know where i was at. >> right. >> then you'd walk 25 feet and you'd still -- you'd be lost again. so it's just -- it's just undescribable. >> i know other family members and loved ones have been trying to get out there and search as well. the community we're told, we spoke to a family member of someone else on the missing list, ryan neil was telling us about the community, real close knit community in the cascade mountains. are you getting the support you feel your family needs? >> yes. absolutely. and it's not just from within this community, it's spread basically worldwide now. but you're right. i know ryan and i know ryan well and i'm right there with him. he's lost his father and i'm -- i'm -- i'm grieving right along with him and his family and he's right. it's tight knit. these guys in darrington, we come together. there's people that -- from high above that they think can come in and kind of override what we're doing and it's not happening. but we -- we stick together up here, and these people, the darrington families, community friends and stuff, the school and everybody, we're together in this and we've got the support that we've known that we would always have in the event like this, something that you never expected to happen. >> something you never expect, never want to happen. we're going to keep hope alive with you for your sister summer to be found and know that the nation is grieving with you guys, as well. all right. we want to say dayn brunner. give your best to your mom. >> thank you. >> sticking together. they're going to need opeach other. >> i'm from a small town. you know everybody and everybody knows you. they stick together for sure. >> we're going to talk about dealing with this kind of tragedy and emotion. next up on "new day," closure so hard to come by for the families of the victims of flight 370. we're going to speak with someone who was once in the same situation and now offers support services to those in need. welcome back. for the families who had loved ones aboard flight 370, it seems comfort is really hard to come by. now that the malaysian government has said everyone on board the jet was lost. we want to bring in heidi snow, she's the founder of access airline casualty emotional support services. she lost her fiance on twa flight 300. she wrote a book and is joining us. heidi, good to see you again. so much rage and anger and frustration from some of these family members directed to both malaysian government and the malaysian airlines. do you relates to that? do you remember feeling that kind of rage and is this a natural exhibition of emotion at this hour? >> yeah. i mean, over the years we've received thousands of calls for help from -- over the last 17 years, and i have to say that at this point when the shock starts to subside and the reality sets in, it's an extremely difficult time. one of the hardest things is now that people are going to really have to go home, resume their lives without their loved ones and face a completely new life and that's one of the hardest things that i remember is when the family assistance center shut down in new york and his remains were still not found and i had to go home and go back to life as normal, but it was not normal. it's a completely new life. all of my -- my future was shattered and everything i had planned was not the same. and so basically you kind of have to start all over again and also start again with the grieving process without really having hope to hold on to. but also not really having concrete evidence either that they're gone. so there's still that moment of fluctuating back and forth. >> well, i suppose one -- >> and still holding out some hope. >> one part of that is you now have this new reality of living in the world, going back to work or school and living your life again with the context of having lost this person and facing all those questions and how are you and all of that emotion coming from people who are only just now dealing with their loss. >> right. absolutely. and i think a lot of people will learn over time, people start to get uncomfortable with it. people who have not been through it before. >> sure. >> that's what i found which is why i needed access. i needed somebody else who got it and recognized my feelings that were, you know, to some people might seem irrational when you're going back and forth saying, well, maybe he survived. but all of us at access know what that's like to think those thoughts and go through that. it was an extremely difficult situation. >> i want to get your take on the fact that malaysian airlines had issued this text message to families. they had to opt in to receive the text message, but that was how they notified the families that they believe the flight was lost in the southern indian ocean. you have a different take than a lot of other people of using this method of delivering this information to families. what is that? >> i just think the most important thing at this time is information, and if there is any way that the families can learn any new data before the rest of the world learns it, such as through the media, and if it comes directly from the source who's relaying the information and it goes to the families first, that is critical. and we found that over the years a big complaint has been it's difficult when the press knows information before we do sometimes. >> yeah. >> so hearing it directly from the prime minister and the airlines before it got out to the general public actually was really important. and if text is the means that it had to happen to be efficient, i believe it's really important. of course it would have been wonderful if each person could have had an individual greet them and discuss this with them but that's not possible when there's a thousand people. >> in the perfect world this disaster wouldn't have happened. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you so much, michaela. >> a real good conversation with you. john. >> such an important perspective. coming up, we will have the latest news from the indian ocean. new satellite information. new objects. could they be from flight 370? 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