Airlines investigation breaking his silence. Malaysias Prime Minister today sat down with richard quest, his First Television interview since the plane disappeared 49 days ago. Its a bizarre scenario, which none of us could have contemplated. Now the Prime Minister would not confirm to richard that the plane actually crashed. Richard quest is in kuala lumpur tonight. And richard, as the search has become, you know, more and more targeted, a lot of people have been saying look are, they focusing too much on one area . Do they actually know where the plane went . I want to play one of the most incredible moments from your interview. This is very, very different from the air france incident, very different from the silkair incident. This is totally unprecedented. What do we have going for us . What is the evidence . The evidence simply lie with the pings, the handshakes that we have analyzed. Thats all we have. Thats all we have, he says, richard. Thats pretty incredible. Absolutely extraordinary. I was surprised myself that he was he was as blunt as that. I thought he might be dressed up with a little bit more of well, the expertise and this and that, all of which is here in kl. But as you and i and arthur and jeff and everybody have said on outfront over the weeks that weve been doing this, take away the handshakes from inmarsat, take away the pings from the ocean shield and youre left with absolutely nothing. And i can tell you, ive had meetings at very senior levels from airline to governmental, everybody agrees the same thing, erin. And richard, you also asked the Prime Minister whether he is sure the plane even crashed. I mean, that was also an extraordinary moment. Let me play how you asked it and what he said. I ask you again, Prime Minister. Are you prepared to say that the plane and its passengers are lost . At some point in time i would be but not now . Right now i think i need to take into account the feelings of the next of kin. And some of them have said publicly that theyre not willing to accept it until they find hard evidence. Richard, this is the man who a month ago said the plane, the flight ended in the southern indian ocean. And he hasnt changed his view on that one bit. But he told me specifically, erin, the words were very carefully chosen, just as much as they were when they used the word deliberate to describe somebody flying the plane, not giving away nefarious or mechanical fault. So the use of the phrase end in the indian ocean was very deliberate itself. He is not going to go to that next stage until until there is some evidence that the families can latch on to. Not because he is a naive fool and doesnt realize what the truth probably is, but because as the Prime Minister of the country that is responsible for the investigation, he believes that is his duty to those people who suffered. All right, richard, stay there. I want to bring in les abend and arthur rosenberg. It was an extraordinary interview. He said to richard, what do we have going for us . What is the snefd the evidence is the pings and the handshakes. Thats all there. First, let me give richard a compliment, because i thought that interview was spectacular. The questions were focused, the answers he got from the Prime Minister reflected the quality of the questions. Now, my largest takeaway on the Positive Side from this interview was this. When the Prime Minister was meeting with the inmarsat people and the other experts to determine a location of the airplane, he said to them and he reported in the interview where is it . And they told him that it was in the location where were looking now. Prime minister responded thats basically halfway to the south pole. Are you sure . Are you sure . Are you sure . And they said we are as confident as we can be. From my take of that from a Prime Minister, a head of state who has a lot more access to information than we do, i think thats a shot in the arm for confidence that we are looking in the right spot. All right. Let me ask you, les. I dont think you feel the same way. He said what evidence do we have . The pings and the handshakes. Thats all we have. You now are worried about the pings. I am. Im worried about the fact that after talking to some of our own ast analysts that are involved with this type of thing that the pings may not be from the black box from the standpoint of the they felt that the frequencies should be spot on, and they werent that doesnt mean that the search area calculated by inmarsat is not the appropriate search area. It may 23409 be just where the bluefin 21 is right now. Thats a crucial question. Let me play what the Prime Minister said to richard, how richard asked about the inmarsat data and what the Prime Minister then said. Here he is. Moving to when the inmarsat data is brought to your attention, did you have any doubts when inmarsat said and your adviser said we believe now the plane flew for seven hours or so, six and a half hours or so and this is where it went. Did you you must have had quite a shocked reaction. To be honest, i found it hard to believe to begin with. Because how could a plane that was supposed to be heading to beijing, you know, they could decide that the plane and that halfway to antarctica, its a bizarre scenario, which none of us could have contemplated. Richard, do you have any fear there is an overreliance on this data . Look, just because its the only data doesnt mean its bad, but it is the only thing they got. You just contradicted yourself in the question, erin. Because with respect, because its the only data, therefore there has to be reliance on it. If you strip away that data, you are left with nothing. And if that data does prove to be inaccurate, then you are going back up the chain to 2 22 when the military radar stops stops tracking the aircraft. And then you really are, pardon the phrase, without the proverbial paddle. Because where do you go then . Look, they may have to do that. But at the moment, their confidence is still there both in the handshake because of the way its been done and the experts who looked at it. Right. And the pings, because of the nature of it. Now, of course, time is ticking, though, les. If youre concerned about the black box pings, indeed, whether the pings come from the black box, should they be looking at other avenues . Well, i think, im with richard. I think the inmarsat data is solid. Because really, like richard said and you talked to inmarsat yourself. I have. You talked about that on the show. They have gone through the wobbles that might have been the plane and why they feel so confident. The performance of the aircraft, the endurance of the aircraft, all that theyve gone through. So yes, im confident that inmarsat has led us in the right area or toward it. But it may be a bigger area than is being searched right now. And i had a lot of confidence that we were actually listening to signals from the black boxes. And after speaking to some analysts that it seems to me that this may not be the right frequency. And that disturbs me, but then again, i think this airplane is still in the ocean. On the issue of the pings from the black boxes, im going to have to disagree with you, as much as it pains me to do that. Arthur, you traffic in disagreement. I do. I do. I think those pings were right on. I think that the frequency difference, the 37 1 2 kilohertz which were all making a big deal about. Thats what its supposed to be transmitting on. It came in lower. I think thats reflective of the incredible pressure where they were. Youre down almost three miles. The temperature variations. I spoke to the same analysts, and i walked away with i think theyve got it. And when you take the pings from the black boxes together with the inmarsat data and the radar data, albeit there was some assumptions 00 performance to the airplane, fuel burn speed, things like that, again, it coalesces right in this area which is where they are. Its a large area. Give it a little more time. All right. Were going to be getting in a minute the details where they are. The were going to get new details from perth on exactly the status of the search. Plus, passengers and their final words. Can Text Messages be retrieved from cell phones that have been on the ocean floor three miles deep for weeks . Well, the results of our exclusive outfront investigation are ahead. And the teenager who survived a fivehour flight in the planes landing gear. His father speaks out tonight. [ ship horn blows ] no, no, no stop humans. 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The american navys underwater drone may be conducting its last in the area. Miguel is in perth. What are you learning tonight . Well, we believe that 12th dive is probably complete by now and theyre downloading the data and finishing it up. So presumably, they are through very close if not entirely the area of 150 square miles of the area around that second ping. That then raises the question what next. Will they continue to do a little more searching around that area . Are there places they want to get to, or will they move on to another area, or even possibly reset the search entirely. Erin . And miguel, thats just incredible to reset the search entirely. But i guess they have to look at that, because the area youre talking about, its not just any old area, its the area that they said was the single most promising area that they have. Right. Yes, although there is the area of the first ping, which is several miles north of there that they could also go to. This is the one they really thought they had it on there might be other parts they want to look in further. If they have to reset, youre talking about bringing in new gear, new search vehicles, possibly new ships, new individuals to help run all of that. Possibly the ocean shield would have to come back, fuel up in port and take on resources and then come back out. A lot has to happen if they have to reset that search, erin. And miguel, you still are hearing theyre going to keep looking, though, broadly in the indian ocean. Its a huge space. But broadly in the indian ocean. Of course, yes. Look, the Prime Minister said the entire area of interest is about 700 kilometerers by 80. Thats about 21,600 square miles of ocean. They have now searched about 150 of that. So they have a lot to choose from. They want to narrow that down as much as possible. But at the moment, they are looking at probably a much wider search if bluefin doesnt come up with anything in this area, and if they dont decide to go to some other where the first ping was heard just before the second. Erin . Thank you very much, miguel. Its incredible how much we dont know. The malaysian Prime Minister telling cnn exclusively, you just heard it, he wont even say that mh 370 crashed. Something so fundamental unknown. And as we search for answer, investigators are still focusing on the pilot and the crew. Spoke with the wife of one of the flight attendants in this outfront exclusive. Reporter paris, frankfurt, london, they have traveled the world together, both working as flight attendants for malaysia airlines. But on the night of march 7th, hasnan missed his bus to work, so otoman dropped him off to the airport. His last words, i love you. I love the way he is holding my hand. Keep on saying that he love me. Its a normal conversation, a normal goodbye, yeah. Reporter their 4yearold daughter still wonders where her father is. She has been asking about her papa every night, every morning. Reporter what do you tell her . Lately i have to strain to tell that papa might come back, papa might not come back. We just pray. Reporter now eight months pregnant, othaman says she can barely keep herself together. If i receive a call on my phone, i was like please, im hoping thats him. Reporter hoping because as nothing else, no evidence, no answers. Most malaysian families of passengers and crewmembers on board flight 370 have been hesitant to speak up. But now after attending a series of government briefs, they are so outraged, they want someone, anyone listen to them. The end of the day its just frustration most of the time, because we feel that, like i said, not enough information. Reporter do they look like theyre trying to help you . I dont know if i can trust them. I can completely understand their need to find answers. However, as i said in the briefing just now, we are looking for the answers ourselves. Reporter to make matters worse, the families of crewmembers are living with the fact that their loved ones have not been cleared from suspicion, the most scrutinized perhaps captain of the plane zaharie hamid shah. She met his family at one of the briefs. Theyre very quiet, very quiet people. I think theyre very emotional down as well. Reporter the mh 370 crews families dont believe the captain is responsible. Othaman will eventually go back to work, fly again for malaysia airlines. But right now she says she cant even bear the sight or the sound of an airplane. Sumnina udas, cnn, kuala lumpur. Up next, the teen who survived a fivehour flight in the wheel well of a plane. Tonight his father speaks out. And breaking news off the coast of south korea. What caused the ferry to capsize. Im Tony Siragusa and im training guys who leak a little, to guard their manhood with depend shields and guards. 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Tonight a new image is said to show the footprint of the 15yearold who stowed away in the wheel well of a flight from california to hawaii. Now, we cant independently confirm the authenticity of the footprint, but this picture was obtained by our affiliate khnl. They say that it shows the teens footprint on the wheel well. Last night we showed you these images of footprints on the gear of the same jet. And for the first time, the father of that teen is now speaking out. Revealing why he believes his son, who remains in protective custody tonight, took this trip in the first place, a trip what should have killed his son. Temperatures inside that cramped compartment which is not pressurized were most likely up to 80 degrees below zero as the jet cruised for six hours at 38,000 feet. David mattingly is out front. Reporter a stowaway plot that at first might have seemed so daring and so calculated continues to be revealed as illconceived and utterly reckless. When a 15yearold climbed the airport perimeter fence in san jose, avoided detection for six hours, and hid in the wheel well of a 767, there is still no indication he had any idea where he was going. Only that he was home sick for his family in seem mallia. Mohammed olad, voice of america spoke to the boys father today in california, who believes his son will be home soon. The father believed that the son was he didnt know the plane, where it was going, and he was like like a stowaway boy who wanted to run away from home, to send his message that he was very sick for home. Reporter perhaps unconscious for most of the ordeal, the teen was clearly not prepared to endure a fivehour flight with little oxygen and subzero temperatures. After landing in maui and regaining consciousness, he was spotted by a startled baggage handler. He appeared to be disoriented, weak, kind of staggered as he was walking. And, you know, totally disoriented and walked up to one of the baggage handlers that were hooking up some baggage carts out on the apron. Flight attendants, please prepare the cabin for landing. Reporter the fbi quickly ruled out terrorism. But questions persist about the teens emotional wellbeing. I was really shocked. Reporter california classmates describe him as shy and withdrawn. His father said he was having difficulty in class. The boy remains in a maui hospital under protective custody of state Child Welfare services. With no word on exactly what drove him to try something so desperate and so dangerous. David mattingly, cnn, atlanta. Pretty incredible. You heard, he was staggering and was disoriented, but thats it. He should have been dead. Its a miracle. Coming up, breaking news off the coast of south korea. We have the death toll numbers just coming in at this moment. And new information about why the ship sank. And the results of our exclusive outfront investigation. Can the final texts and emails from flight 370s passengers be retrieved from phones that have been sitting three miles beneath the Ocean Surface . What does an apron have to do with Car Insurance . An apron is hard work. An apron is pride in what you do. An apron is not quitting until youve made something a little better. What does an apron have to do with Car Insurance . For us, everything. Breaking news. The death toll from the capsized ferry rising tonight. The number is now 181 people. 121 are still classified as missing. So why did the ship suddenly take on water . We can tell you tonight investigators are now taking a closer look at two things specifically. One, renovations made to the ship last year. A south korean politician says the ships owner expanded the top floor making room for an additional 117 passengers. That also of course shifted the center of gravity. Theyre also secondly focused on cargo. Our own kyung lah is out front in the search area. And kyung, what are investigators saying about two crucial things, the renovations and the cargo . Theyre drilling down on those two very things, and theyre looking at one other thing as well, whether or not the ship may have made too sharp a turn, and then those two items may have contributed to this disaster. So the investigation picking up speed. The search here on the water also continuing as the nation continues to grapple with the loss of so many young lives. The difficulty healing process begins in south korea, home to the 325 High School Students on board last weeks ferry disaster. Students returned to class this morning for the first time, but outside the halls a somber moment. The young bodies of some of those who passed were driven by the school one last time. The schools gates now covered with flowers, yellow ribbon, and hundreds of personal messages to their friends and classmates. One nearby shop owner showing cnn a video of a young man who is believed to have perished on the ferry. Translator he was sitting here playing guitar, talking about how important this trip was to him, she says. I feel so bad that i could not be there, all of us. We could have done something. That anguish turning to anger for many families who pulled a Deputy Director with the coast guard from his office today, ripping his shirt and punching and slapping him. The focus of their frustration, the pace of their investigation. Among those arrested, the ferrys engineer. He told investigators that he was not aware of any problems with the ship when it ran into trouble. And today with his hands cuffed and his head down, he maintained that he was with the ship until the end. Translator we were ordered to leave, he says. The ferry was completely overturned. There was no other way to go. Reporter and as the search continues for those missing inside the ferry, one telling a gutwrenching story of finding a boy and a girl with their life jackets tied together. The 58yearold says he tried to separate the two, but failed. I felt as if this was because they didnt want to separate. Back here live at the search site where youre looking at is the ferry, which is right above where divers are heading down to try to recover more bodies. You can see the divers in those small boats. Weve seen them slipping under the water. It is a very difficult search. And while this is happening, there were also some crewmembers arrested. The total number of crewmembers now, erin, is 15. 20 survived. So only five who survived have not yet been netted in this criminal dragnet. Erin . Thank you very much, kyung lah. And i want to go to chad myers now here with me in the studio. Why this ferry could have happ capsi capsized. Obviously were looking at the renovations that could have added 180 tons. 180 tons are added to the ship. Show me how that could have happened in a way that destabilizes. Like youre putting a mattress on top of your minivan, and youre going around the corner. You have a lot of weight on top of your minivan. The difference between this and mh 370, though, the fact that we have the captain. We have is the crew. We have the piece, all of it together. Were not going have to put this back together like mh 370. We will get an answer here. Now, there could have been a mechanical. The rudder could have stuck one way or the other, the hydraulics could have been wrong with the rudder as the helm has been turned that rudder there could have been some center of gravity issue. Here is the center of gravity. When you start to run the ship as long as they did, you start to use fuel. Fuel is used as ballast. So the renovations that were put up on top, we can get right to that full screen, how the renovations look, this is the before, a little lower back here. Here is the after. You see the little bit of extra desk up here. Thats all steel. Thats heaviness. So at the same time as they move the center of gravity up, theyre running on fuel which is low, that really makes it more precarious, i would imagine. In order to make this work, you have to do something down below the water line to make it stable again. And they probably did. They probably added more water ballast. A lot of the ships it will alley have saltwater ballast. They fill the bottom of the boat with saltwater and they drive along to keep the boat upright. Its all a matter of what you can do, how you do it, and if you do it correctly. We do know there were renovations. We also know that the containers dont always match up to what should be on the ship. We know that this is what the maximum cargo, this is what the boat is listed for. The ship should have 88 cars, 60 trucks or 247 shipping containers. It had this. This is the manifest. 124 cars. Now thats a bigger number. But if you come down here and you look at the shipping containers, its much less. So its all a matter of weight and where do you put that weight. The higher you put the weight on those Cargo Containers above the deck, above the water line, the more it wants to tip over. Also, some people may say the renovations, i get you, could have shifted the center of gravity. But they were made last year. The ferry has gone back and forth a lot. Why this time . Thats where you getting at it come downs to this particular load of cargo. And whether that third mate turned too quickly. The fuel was too low. All the things combined. That was not the first turn the ship made. It was under way for a very long time. So this ship had made different left turns, deft right turns to get into the channel. But the 6 knot current one way and a 7 knot current depend ogg about slack tide, low tide, that is thing maybe a third mate, a helmsman may not have been familiar with. All right, chad myers. But were going to get to this. Were going to understand this when its all said and done. Because we have the wreckage. Were going. Exactly. Out front retired captain paul roden. Talking about the renovations, low fuel levels, cargo, which is unclear whether it exceeded the limit or not because of the breakdown. Does this add up in your mind to this is why the ferry sank . Yes. Hi, erin. Thank you. It does add up. I think you all covered it quite well. In designing a ship like this, a naval architect will use analysis and stability criteria to ensure to a high degree of probability that the ship will be operated safely. Things can interfere with that, such as if the ship is not loaded, according to the stability plan or the loading plan, or if there are compounding factors that would impact the ship. For example, the ship is going to be designed to sustain threats such as icing or rushing of passengers to one side, or even a high speed turn. However, when you compound these factors, that is when you can potentially run into danger. So when you hear about a renovation, just take that alone, right, where you see the before and after. All of the sudden there is a whole another deck added, and its added at the top. Does that in and of itself concern you . Or is that something that would be common and they should be able to adjust for . Or is that something that just by the nature of doing it, will inherently make that ship more at risk . It wouldnt typically concern me, because you would expect in doing such a modification that other modifications are going to be made in conjunction with that. For example, they may be adding additional weight down low, as chad explained. Its a matter of exactly where the center of gravity is. And you can add weight to a ship. You can add it high. But you must compensate to ensure the center of gravity stays in a place that ensures positive stability. And what about the cargo . You know, when you see a maximum cargo list, is that something that crews really Pay Attention to . 3,968 tons. Do they really pay close attention to that, or do think they theyre sailing all the time with hey, plus or minus . No, i think crews would be paying attention to that. They know they want to operate the ship safely. So they must load according to safe stability criteria. If thats not followed, that might be one reason why the ship could have run into some danger. And what about this issue of fuel and that fuel may be low because they were nine hours in. Obviously they had enough to get where theyre going. But would low fuel be something that they use as ballast to try to balance the ship on the bottom or not . That is typical. The fuel is down low. And as fuel is consumed, that means youre removing weight from down low in the ship. And it is true that you might typically add saltwater ballast just to ensure that the ship maintains positive stability. But the crew operating the ship must always be monitoring the center of gravity of the ship and ensure its in a safe condition. Do you think its fair to say, then, as a bottom line that this i mean, this could have happened in a lot of cases. You imagine a lot of these runs are routine. These people are, yes, theyre professionals. But theyre running this ferry every day. This is happening all around the world. I would not say that. Mainly because i know that ships are designed to safe stability criteria. And again, you run into danger when the plans are not followed and in operating the ship, or if there are multiple conditions that as i said would compound each other. For example, a higher than normal center of gravity together with a high speed turn. Again, together with shifting cargo to one side of the ship. Those could all have a compounding effect of resulting in unsafe operation. Captain roden, thank you. Good to have you on again. Yes, thank you. Coming up, our outfront investigation. So could cell phone data solve the mystery of flight 370 . We wanted to know if the last moments when passengers may have texted the truth, will we ever know what the texts say . Well, we have an answer. Man ] humans. Even when we cross our ts and dot our is, we still run into problems. Namely, other humans. Which is why at Liberty Mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. See what else comes standard at libertymutual. Com. Liberty mutual insurance. Responsibility. Whats your policy . Ndred and seventyseven thousand dollars per minute. Thats what big oil made last year. Now theyre spending it to rig the system against you. Pushing washington to cut americanmade biofuels. Bullying gas stations to use more of their oil. All so they get richer. And you pay more. Truth is, biofuels are cleaner, better for your engine and less expensive. Washington, dont let big oil rig the system any more. Protect the renewable fuel standard. And now lets check in with john berman. He has a look at what is coming up on ac 360. Ahead were going to have much more on the breaking news here. The bluefin searching the waters off the coast of australia could be finished searching the area targeted by the sonar pings. That could happen any time tonight. Were going to speak with sarah bajc, whose partner philip wood on flight 370, of course, and ask her about the frustration of not definitively knowing what happened to him. Also ahead, when the recovery operation is finished off the coast of korea, the ship there, it will become a crime scene. Well speak with two salvage experts about how to get that ship to the surface and unlock the secrets of what went so terribly, terribly wrong. Thats all at the top of the hour. Erin . All right, john. Were looking forward to seeing you in just a few moments. And now our breaking News Coverage continues on Malaysia Flight 370 tonight. Malaysias Prime Minister saying he is not even sure the plane crashed. Now the hunt is on. As he opened the door to well, he has his own theories. One thing that could solve this is passengers cell phones. Did the passengers on board the flight try to send Text Messages . If they did, the final goodbyes to family members and friends could solve the entire investigation. Forensic expert says personal cell phones could be the key to solving the biggest aviation mystery in history. Tell rolands is out front. Reporter some of the final messages from passengers on flight 370 could be with the missing plane at the bottom of the indian ocean. Unsent texts, emails and photos to loved ones. But could they be retrieved if the plane is found . Absolutely. Its a matter of finding the devices to determine what kind of damage was associated with them and handling them properly. Reporter we decided to see if its possible by putting this cell phone in saltwater. We turned off the transmission on this phone and tried to send emails and texts. Right now im going to take some video of the Chicago River and some stills. And well see if those survive. We took our phone to chicagos Shedd Aquarium and met chemist Allen Lapointe and fish biologist george parsons. Using water from the aquariums ocean floor exhibit, they prepared this Pressure Chamber for our phone. We have the salt compositions right. We have the temperature very cold. Not as cold as it will be in the indian ocean, but pretty close. And now weve got a Pressure Chamber. The plan is to leave our phone in water for a week and see if our test email, text, video and photos can be retrieved. Its 2 30 on april 8. And were going to place it into our chamber right now. This is going directly into saltwater that simulates the indian ocean. Reporter within seconds, saltwater fills inside the of the phone. Eight days later, two of our computer Forensic Experts come to the aquarium to remove the phone. I can definitely see the salt corrosion building up on the outside of the phone. Its just whether or not it made its way all the way inside, built up on top of the electronics and whether or not it corroded the memory chip or the data storage. Its going to overflow a little bit. Reporter because oxygen will quickly increase corrosion, our phone is kept in water. Were going to keep it in the same water it was in until we can get it back to the lab and get it in a solution where we can begin to clean it up. Reporter a few hours later at the ford Discovery Lab look how it ate the plastic. Reporter to retrieve the data, the phone is pulled apart. The board, which includes the memory chip is bathed in an 80 degree ultrasonic cleaner several times. And any tiny salt deposits are chipped away. This is the most important part. This is where all the data is held and stored. So this is actually looking pretty good. The chip is then actually removed, using heat. It was in pretty good shape. So the next step, quite honestly, is to just pop it into an adapter like this. Eventually, there it is. The emails i tried to send, the text message, even the photos and a portion of the video we recorded of the Chicago River. And while our experiment with the aquarium tank is not the same as the indian ocean our experts believe they could also retrieve data from cell phones on flight 370. The chips are fairly well protected. We were able to get the data off. I think it would be possible. I mean, that is pretty incredible. And they simulate it, that is pretty important to emphasize, it was the chicago aquarium. But theyre looking at the pressure that these phones might be in if theyre three miles below the surface. Yeah, the pressure was a little bit lower in our experiment because i couldnt ramp it up to the indian ocean. But they say the key is the chip. And if the chip is still intact they can pretty much get anything off of it. All right, mark, you know you just saw teds reporting. I mean, this is pretty incredible. Most people sort of dismiss this out of hand. They say why do you want to do this investigation . Of course, these phones would be ruined. How would they be able to get this off . Of course theyre confident. So what else can they find . Can they get the Text Messages . Well, the first is whether or not there are any messages on the phone. If the phones were on and they were running and people were sending Text Messages, even if they couldnt hit a cell tower then that will be stored on the phone. And those might be able to be retrieved, depending on those conditions. And ted, lets talk about the environmental conditions. Because we just saw the piece there that was substantial. Were you able to get everything off that you sent, and particularly some of the last things that you sent off . Everything that we put on the phone we were able to get off. Except the video, it was a little grainy so it wasnt the complete portion. They were also able to retrieve 85 of the things we thought we had erased going back. This was an old phone that was used for years. They were able to get all of that information, arres well. It is really incredible. If you think about it, there are potentially these cell phones from the flight and crew. Theyre almost like these little black boxes, if they can be found. All right, that is incredible, mark, 239 pieces of data. Is there a way to track these cell phones, if it is at the bottom of the ocean, and you have all of this data. Some people have more than one. Can you find them now . Well, you cant use the phones to find the plane. But you can use the phones to find out where the plane was once you have recovered the phone. The problem with the phones were, while they were on the plane there was no place for them to communicate with. And right now at the bottom of the ocean, presumably where they are, there is nothing for them to communicate with either. So youre saying you couldnt put a ship like the ocean shield on the surface with some type of tower to try to find those phones now. Right, the batteries are long dead, and they are not transmitting, even if they were at the time. They would be long dead. But you can get the flight path, you can backtrack once you do the analysis like ted would do. Once you get the phone on it would be receiving a gps signal from satellites in space. That means it knows where it was. If you can tell where the phone was you can tell where the plane was when it crashed. Ted, how surprised were you . You say it was stuff from years before. I am actually frankly shocked. I would have thought that if there was any environment that would destroy data it would be the pressure, let me emphasize again, a cadillac sitting on your fingernail, on those pho phones. Im amazed. Yeah, the pressure would not affect those phones in that space because it is so tight. But to be honest they were confident going into it when we approached them to do this. The confidence did weigh in a little bit in the middle of the experiment after they saw the condition it was in, after they did it at the Shedd Aquarium. But now theyre pleased they did it. When you think about the korean ferry incident, those phones will be easiliy lretrieved, and that data will be garnered, and it will tell what happened, and leave messages to the family if theyre handled properly. All right, thank you very much to both of you. Still to come, officials in maryland declare war are on a pair of birds. With a headline like that, there is only one person on this show that can talk about it. That is jeanne and she is next. Get in punch it let quicken loans help you save your money. With a mortgage thats engineered to amaze predibut, manufacturings a prettin the United States do. Means advanced technology. We learned that Technology Allows us to be craft oriented. No ones losing their job. Theres no beer robot that has suddenly chased them out. The technology is actually creating new jobs. Siemens designed and built the right tools and resources to get the job done. To truck guys, the truck is everything. And when you put them in charge of making an unbeatable truck. Good things happen. This is the ram 1500. The 2014 motor trend truck of the year and first ever backtoback champion. Guts. Glory. Ram. Man versus bird in the great state of maryland, and the birds are not backing down, for the story we turn to jeanne moos. Reporter attention, drivers, all lanes are open but the Traffic Camera is blocked, blocked by a bird . Meet the ospreys, blocking the approach to the Chesapeake Bay bridge, cant see . Too bad, theyre building a nest. As the biologist explains . This time of year it is a wacky place to build a nest. Reporter first they build a nest, and the transportation workers tore it down, first, they build the nest, the workers remove. No eggs had yet been laid. One washington, d. C. Tv station followed the flap live. And we a live look right here the bird just flew. Theyre two feet tall, they have a sixfoot wing span. Reporter the Transportation Authority even gave them names. After all, ospreys tend to mate for life. Three times, ozzie and harriet built nests, only to have them torn down, they were going for four. What did the spokesperson for the Transportation Authority do . I did my best Charlie Brown impression and said . Good grief reporter yeah, what do you think ozzie was saying to harriet after their third nest was destroyed . This is ridiculous reporter but this story has a happy ending, the Transportation Authority built them a new home. The platform was placed about interpret feet away from the latest camera they were blocking. Workers put some of their old nest material in the platform, and voila the osprey came adding more twigs. She likes it. Who said anything about just two . Ospreys build nests to have chicks. Ozzie and harriet laid down the law it is our way over the highway. Jeanne moos, cnn, new york. Now, it may not surprise you that the female did most of the work, hello, people, after all. Harriet did pretty much all of the nest building. The camera moved around and when it would turn and point right at her she would get annoyed, and she would peck at it. Guess she wanted to show them who was boss. All right, and before we go on cnn, the Season Finale of chicagoland, Great Strides have been made in chicago, but there is still a lot of work to do. Did you see the shootings last week . What will they do next . All right, well see you tomorrow night. Good evening, john berman in for anderson, and we begin with breaking news right now. We could get word that the likeliest place to find the flight 370 could be over. They were going back and forth in the targeted area. As of yesterday they searched 90 of that area, so tonight it is either done or very close to it. Were waiting to hear. And were talking about what the next step could be. We also have an exclusive interview with the Prime Minister of malaysia, in the last six
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