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A recap of the days news. Firing. He was there shoaleder to shoulder he Doesnt Know What Mueller knows. It seems implausible to me that he doesnt provide factual material thats illuminating about the president s state of mind. So i think raeurlts little bit over confident to be saying that at this point. But the real question is why would trumps lawyers not debrief mcgahn . The white House Counsel has given 30 hours of interviews. Much of which the Trump Legal Team is in the dark with. Its like a book on tape, isnt it . Thats a lot of testimony. The white house got nothing out of this in return for letting all of these people submit to interviews. You would have thought that they would have at least negotiated, been able to debrief everyone. Strategy . Lets go back to the question of whether or not he incriminated the president. The president seems not to understand that mcgahn is not his personal lawyer. So you think about the kinds of things that might have been toads mcgahn under the misapprehension that he was his personal lawyer. And at time when they didnt think obstruction of justice could possibly be a crime. That was their view then and now. And i take harrys point that its almost like mcgahn can provide the Frame Twaorbg which other details can be placed. What were the nature of the discussions before and after the comey firing . Who set up the meetings with the Russian Ambassador shortly after the comey firing. Even if he doesnt directly say x. It can be inferred next to what other people are saying. The failure to debrief suggests they did not understand what was going on here and that suggests there may have been admissions made. But we really dont know. Hang on one second. I asked this question in the last hour. Do you think its finally starting to settle in that the president is realizing don mcgahn is not his personal attorney, that he represents the office of a the presidency . Now that were talking about why mcgahn had no defense to talking to mueller. Have raised Executive Privilege issues. But he actually has no Attorney Client privilege because hes not in a privilege situation. Im interested in what came out when the president didnt know that people were listening. Interesting. Go ahead, jack. To your last point there, they not only didnt raise Executive Privilege, they pretty much waved it. So i think its going to be very difficult for them now to reel this back in. The other thing i wanted to mention was the initial reporting the New York Times about mcgahns providing testimony indicated he was doing so because he was afraid he was be set up. That speaks volumes. Clearly somebody who feels they might be set up thinks one or more people in the office in which he works, that is to say in the administration, has exposure, legal exposure and he wanted to make sure he was not the one hold thing bag. Which was the motivation for dean coming forward. Wasnt that the motivation for john dean coming forward during watergate . Yes. Did you Say Something was pausesable or not possible. What were you saying . I was agreeing with jack that theres no way this really is the legal gang that couldnt shoot straight from the top. First of hrf nancys 100 right, no attorneyclient privilege. They could assert it could be overcome. But now that heicides it, the notion they can expost facto try to reel back in the testimony, i was just a theres no way the legal the stuff thats been used is waved, yeah. So listen were learning federal prosecutors are preparing charges against longtime attorney and fixer cohen. Theyve been investigating tax fraud and hush money to stormy daniels. What should trump be most concerned about . Well, i mean what do you have to be most concerned about is cohen looking down the barrel of sear charges. Ied a not brought by the special counsel. So no matter what happens to mueller or sessions or rose stein, these kinds of charges would continue. So if cohen is looking down the barrel of the gun, what will he do or say visa sraoe the president . I want you to check out these legal headlines. Mcgahn talks to muellers team and white house doesnt know what he said. Were expecting a Manafort Verdict any day. Are the walls closing in on this president . Certainly if hes Reading Headlines like that, he must feel like they are. Rudy giuliani, you feel like they are. You dont get this excited rhetoric unless you have cause for grave concern i think. Stkpwhrrs thank you all. This is timing. 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Oh oh oh ozempic® vo ask your Healthcare Provider if ozempic® is right for you. Clearances of more former intelligence officials after doing just that last week to former cia director, john brennan. The new yorker is Reporting Aids considered form orficials under President Obama to be powerful enemies whose clearances should be canceled. And as trump stepped up his public and private attacks on obama, some of the new president s advisors thought he should take the extraordinary step of denying President Obama himself. Im going to bring in now cnn contributor, the author of the threat matrix inside, Robert Muellers and the war on terror. And one who re the augtser of the president s book of secrets. Welcome to the program. So david, you first. Deny President Obama intelligence access . That would be unprecedented, right . It certainly would be strange for this presidency. This happens on every front on every day. The fact that he would look back at obama and say lets cut him out of something, it doesnt surprise me. It does help undermine one of the arguments about the letters on former National Security officials which is that it is all about the fact that he violated some aspect of the Security Agreement because theres been no evidence about that from john brennan no evidence in this story or have heard otherwise that barack obama had somehow violated the norms of president al behavior or what it would take to get a Security Clearance such that remove thing Standard Practice of providing expresident s would have to be ended. I dont know where that came from other than spite. Of Obama Administration officials. But h. R. Mcmaster stopped it. What is the reason former administration staffers get keep their clearance . I think it made it clear these were staffers who were essentially held over, staying in some of their jobs as directors, possibly senior directors. And in that case, thats for continuity of government. So you have people that know whats going on internationally. Its also possible some of the people were senior officials, like weve been talking about with former cia directors. That you might bring people back in for consultations. You can give them information on a spot on base but its much more efficiently to have those conversations more easily. The president told roeuters he hasnt give an lot of thought of revoking Robert Muellers Security Clearance. I cant fathom that would be something that we would actually see happen. It seems there would be no clearer way to obstruct justice than to obstruct justice which would be what you were doing if you tried to pull Robert Muellers ability to do classified intelligence as part of a classified counterintelligence investigation how many times have you said i couldnt fathom this would happen and then it happened . Thats been almost the daily of this president. And why john brennan . Why James Clapper are speaking out in the way that they are . Admiral when he came out last week asking the president to revoke his Security Clearance so that he could be on record as against this administration. I mean that was a phrase and a public action i never thought i would see from someone like him. And these are not men who scare easily, cry wolf and the fact lets be honest thats what this is, does that also pertain to the truth to power that intelligence analysts are trained to deliver to Policy Makers . If you have to go to the president of the United States and you have to give him a message you know he doesnt want to hear, are they going to hold back for fear of being punished for giving an uncomefort blg truth to the president of the United States . The Intelligence Community will be undermined completely if this goes down that slipry slope any further. To john brennan today President Trump granted my request to handle your case. It would be just like obamas red line. 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Do it now before you forget. Thats the keyword on the screen to 202020. Claims by former aid, omarosa, that he used the n word while taping the apprentice. You were actually on with omarosa. I was on with o. Did you lose because oher . I dont blame her for that. Ive gotten over it over the last 15 years. Just for transparency we discussed this and there are some things youre comfortable talking about, others do not. Lets just start right off. You said if you had heard him. Youre not saying that you didnt. But if you had heard himself i would have had to say meet me outside. I know hes the president now, but if somebodys going to call you that, youre going to have handle it in the appropriate matter. Its about the fact that even if there is a tape that says kwame jackson, left, right, in the middle and what i learned from the election is that racism, bigotry, xenophobia, homophobia, are not disqualifying factors to becoming president of the United States and thats what broke my heart in the election. We stand up and say president of the and you wake up election morning and you say people will look the other way on things he that are supposed to be fundamental disqualifiers. So youre saying it doesnt matter. If he says it or not that youre not going to walk down and say oh, my god the word of god has been revealed to me. Theyre not al capones closet. I think it is a sad state of affairs. Intreupbzically in our history, this history of slavery, of jim crow of just pernishes behavior against all types of others and thats something we never really addressed as a nation and they just want to look the other way for great economic numbers. My 401 k went up 3 . Actually there are studies that show the whole thing about the Economy Economic anxiety. That would happen in starbucks. Charlottesville. You will not replace us. Thats economic anxiety. So whats happening is clearly about race. Im just wondering what that says about our society and culture there was a State Senator who said it wouldnt make a difference if he used the word because he didnt use it as president. Its odd. And the funny thing is and i talked about this before that, the n word is not the only litmus test for racism. Its not standing in front of someones yard with a cross and now youre racist. There data points that lead up to that that we know within his presidency and long history. Have you heard of any other people who worked on the show or with the show the president using on the donald trump. Ive heard from producers and other contestants that these tapes exist and ive done my part to look up those tapes and see what could come of that but really nothing has come of that so far. Last week the producer called him to say there were no tapes of him using the n word. Do you think he would call him to Say Something he would already know because me didnt stay . I think there has been lots of opportunity for my producers and people to step up and i know in the long arc of heursry, like people favoring the confederacy, that theyre going to look really staoup id. You say youve gotten over the last 15 years. You didnt win the apprentice. Trump felt like you should have fired omarosa from your team. And that was probably true. Watch this. Kwame, couple of things bother me and bother me big league. Omarosa lied to you. She deceived you. And not only once but twice. Why didnt you fire her . At that time i didnt know that was an option and i had a job to get done. I dont like just moving them over. I like firing them. So when the president deceives us, should we fire him . Take action . But he kept hiring her. Yes, he did. Over and over on multiple shows. Shes been a fixture in his administration for the last 15 years since the apprentice. I dont look the other way on her menstrual behavior. As she has basically gone out and done this buffoonry dance for amare a a. As one of my friends told me it takes a crook to catch a crook and thats how the mafia thing works. So god bless her but that does not discount her behavior or being for this president. Its like celebrate thing arsonist now that they become a fireman. I think i know theres scuttle but that omarosa could possibly bring down the president and im all for that but i think you should have never helped him become president. You should have nevered a srabgted against your own people as the minister of African American affairs and to say this is a come to jesus moment for omarosa and she can come back to the fold and get invited to the barbecue again, its not working for me. Are you like oh, this is like the political version of i call it americas addiction to junk food. President trump is junk food. We all like Cheese Burgers and fries. But if you eat them every day, guess what happens . You get a president like trump, diabetes, all kinds of problems. I understand people like the bright shiny object, people like the see this whole big show but at some time we got to go deep and do exercise and not just eat junk food. He said i dont want to give a platform to something horrible and you want to elevate the conversation by doing what . For me this is about taking a stand and saying america, enough is enough about the junk food. Theres a smart lady that once said when they go low, we go high and this is our time to go high. So this is not about me criticizing omarosa or bitter about something with the apprentice. These are the principals of our nation at stake. And these are the same principals when i warned america about where we were going in the process. And were here again, we have another chance to take the high road, another chance to come together and im encouraging america to do it together. Boom. You got to snap it out. You got to snap it out. Thank you, sir. When we come back out of the white house but says he has no regrets. White house after a investigation revealed he attended a conference frequented by White Nationalists. Hes listed as a speaker for the 2016 lincoln club conference, regularly attended by wellknown White Nationalists like richard spencer. Lets discuss now. All are here. Hello everyone, good evening. So before we talk about this former white house speech writer, i want to get your reaction to kwame jackson. He says it doesnt matter. Doesnt matter. Do you thing it matters, simone . Don, i guess i agree that we dont need a tape. We have a tape from the white house earlier today. But i guess we dont need the tape. But i think we should be concerned with is what is actually going on in the white house . The things that donden is not tweeting about like the judges, the cavanaugh nomination and on down the line. We dont need the tape because donald trump told us who he was a long time ago. He basically said what was happing in the white house. He said it was a menstrual show. Ive said that. Yeah, no, ive made that reference before and i think i called them political menstruals because this seems to entertain donald trump. I agree that if the tape exists that it would make a difference in a different way. I think during the 2016 campaign if that had come out after the Access Hollywood tape, it might have been too much for the country and republicans to accept the country who openly said the n word and grabbing a woman by the genitals. Today ive already heard trump appall jests saying it depends on what context he said it. No, it shouldnt matter what context he said it in. Its not acceptable at all. That makes me believe its not going to matter to a frump loyalist, even though its rr wrong. Context wouldnt matter, right, scott . Scotts one of the good ones. This tape would matter. I think it would be painel for millions of americans, including myself to hear the president of the United States say it on tape. Were speaking in hypotheticals, but to me what would matter more is how do you go to the american people and say im sorry heres how it happened, heres why i is said it. Frank lee to me almost would be more important than the tape can coming forward, because the president of all of us would have to explain and how hes learn and grown as a person. Charlottesville is a perfect example of thats never happening. Okay. Listen. I really want to dig into this speech writer. Cnn pf cnns reporting he participated in conference with two former writers for the National Review who were both fired for aspouzing racist views. What does that say about the Trump White House vetting process . Its lacking. I dont know if it exists at all. I mean i dent know if it exists at all. The additional questions i believe this raises is what kind of access did the White Nationalists that spoke at this conference or maybe those that prescribe to a white premises ideology. What do they have what access do they have . As the made the to talking points, to concrete policy . Have these had an audience with other senior advisors of the president . And the fact the white house didnt know until they did their reporting and asked about it should concern us all. Or maybe they did know and they got caught. Im worried i cant find a safe used car. You could start your search at the allnew carfax. Com that might help. Show me the carfax . Now the car you want and the history you need are easy to find. Show me used minivans with no reported accidents. Boom. Love it. [struggles] show me the carfax. Start your used car search and get free Carfax Reports at the allnew carfax. Com. Im back now with scott simone and tara. So when contacted by cnn were going to continue our conversation. By cnn last week. His participation in the conference for several day late friday night told cnn he no longer waurbgs at the white house. Attended the megan conference in question and delivered a stand alone academic talk titled the right. I said Nothing Ucjectionable and stand by my remarks completely. It shouldnt anyone in politics know to avoid a conference attended by white nationals. He didnt apologize for attend thing conference. The person that was named after, he once described jews as phrauzably the most unpleasant race ever heard of and called an educated black person as being a low cast man who will remain inert and inefficient until 15 generations of him lived in civilization and even then the white race will be 15 generations ahead of him. And this is who the conference was named after. The context is basically a bunch of academics who hide Pwr Hind Academia to talk bute white nationalism. So the fact that he seems unapologetic about that is problematic. Steve bannon who was a White Nationalists. Porter a wife abuser. Miller who has White Nationalist leanings. Now this guy. What is it about this administration that attracts them. He also got his dissertation on a german philosopher who was also a member of the nazi party. This guy is scholarly investigation and study. These are the kinds of people this administration is atrapbgting. Washington post is reporting that beatty scott resisted the push for him to resign that ultimately led to him being fired. Its skpoezed to be extreme vetting for everybody. Tprrsz do you think hed still be working there if the reporting had not been surfaced . Ocly because he was working there unhim the reporting was surfaced. Its interesting to hear he resisted his request for resignation. One of the things that should be immediately clear is its not about you, its about the president , the institution, the office. And so when you do something or something surfaces that brings embarrassment to that office, you should have enough self respect and respect to the institution to step down. But the white house obviously forced him out, which was the right thing to do. I will say theres some amount of Self Reflection you have to do. And if youve done something in your past or been associated to something that could bring the president embarrassment, thats your responsibility to report that to your superiors. It sounds like this guy failed oen numerous fronts. And you think about this Person Irk Withed for the white house. As a speech writer. One black person who worked for the administration. But you have someone who participates in White Nationalists conventions or rallies. Unappall skwrtically still, still. I want to talk to first lady Milania Trump. Its are rr not there. So anyway poor thing. Lets put up the tweets. The president attacking the former cia director, john brennan, then he called john dean a rat. Simone, take it away. You know some people today tried to paint the first lady asthma Rackulous Troller that sits in the white house and holds donald trump accountable with her action her words. I just i dont think so. I think the first lady should start with her own household. My mother used to always tell me to take care off me and mines before i go out of the house trying to tell other people what they should do. Cyber bullying is a real issue. Bullying is a real issue. We should be encouraging everyone to bow the best srurgsz of themival ises. But Milania Trump is married to donald trump who has been the bullier and chief from the first day he strolled down the escalator by saying the mexicans are taking our jobs. So i do not understand how she finds it remotely appropriate or even feasible for her to have the best antibullying defense. No credibility ibthat area, sorry. Thats trr for us. Thanks for watching. Our coverage continues. Onceweekly ozempic®. In a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. Oh under seven . vo and you may lose weight. In the same oneyear study, adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. 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