A recap of the days news. Firing. He was there shoaleder to shoulder he Doesnt Know What Mueller knows. It seems implausible to me that he doesnt provide factual material thats illuminating about the president s state of mind. So i think raeurlts little bit over confident to be saying that at this point. But the real question is why would trumps lawyers not debrief mcgahn . The white House Counsel has given 30 hours of interviews. Much of which the Trump Legal Team is in the dark with. Its like a book on tape, isnt it . Thats a lot of testimony. The white house got nothing out of this in return for letting all of these people submit to interviews. You would have thought that they would have at least negotiated, been able to debrief everyone. Strategy . Lets go back to the question of whether or not he incriminated the president. The president seems not to understand that mcgahn is not his personal lawyer. So you think about the kinds of things that might have been toads mcgahn under th
Hours of testimony. Not only are the president s attorneys still in the dark about it, the president himself is rattled. Remember it was don mcgann who threatened to quit when President Trump attempted to fire Robert Mueller last june. Sources confirming that federal authorities are preparing charges against michael cohen. The u. S. Attorneys office is investigating cohen for possible bank and tax fraud as well as Campaign Finance violations for Hush Money Payments to stormy daniels. Those charges could come next week. And today, Paul Manafort served the Trump Campaign for 18 months. Hes facing 18 separate counts
of bank and tax fraud. He also faces charges on Money Laundering and fraudulent lobbying. Good evening, everyone, welcome to the program. Heres what the sources are telling cnn, mcgann didnt provide incriminating information about the president. He doesnt believe he implicated trump in any wrongdoing. Give me your assessment of this . I dont understand how they can say that so
are the 11 instances, congress it is up to you. you could criticize him to the extent you made a definitive conclusion as it relates to russia, why not suggest there seems to be something here as it relates to obstruction of justice but congress, it is not my job since i can t proceed, you guys take it and run with it which is what he s doing it. so he left the bread crumbs and said congress it is up to you because democrats have said mueller was calling congress when you said the constitution requires a process other than the criminal just system to formally accuse a sitting president of wrongdoing. so barr said he doesn t know what mueller was actually suggesting there. what do you make of that? i make of perhaps another misrepresentation to the kind that barr is not making. how do you not know he s not saying that. congress is the institution that deals with this. you don t arrest the president and lock him up and say come to court and you go to the congress and two-thirds of th
you want whatever he wants from robert mueller but can t really force the hand, can he? i reminded i think it was kelly who said the enemy gets a vote is to win the war ends. he can want it, but he s not really in control. leland: this is rudy giuliani this morning on fox and friends issuing the ultimatum. your thoughts. my ultimatum is put up or shut up. those of us with who believe he doesn t have anything on pollution. by the way if he did, it s not a crime. the president was involved of the conspiracy to hack the dnc with russia. of course you don t. leland: have you seen anything? is right through public perspective but that s meaningless because you don t know what mueller has. he s doing a good defense lawyer with newcomer press for the end of the case. but in some sense it is a blot because he doesn t know what mueller has silly thing you
and he joins me now. congressman, welcome back to the show. thanks, chuck. what do you make i m going to ask you quickly about this manafort thing because what does that tell you about manafort s credibility here, his own lawyer even they don t know what he lied about or manafort doesn t know what mueller knows. does that make manafort just uncredible even more so on a ton of fronts? yes, look, i m not sure you can get even more so incredible or uncredible than manafort already is. the guy has been lying about everything and that is part of what got him in such hot water. i think there s at least two areas here that are probably interesting to many of us. one, of course, is at least certainly on the congressional side where we care an awful lot about the contacts with russia are apparently lies about his contacts with constantine