oh, a busy morning. we're so glad that you just took a couple of seconds to spend 2 with us and sit down and relax. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. we're starting this morning in california. the fires there are raging. firefighters are working around the clock. they're trying to get six wildfires under control. at least four other fires are now fully contained. good news there. >> that's the good news, right. more than 1,000 firefighters, though, are battling all of the blazes around san diego. police have now charged -- here's big news overnight -- one of three people arrested for alleged arson. they have brought a charge here. so far, though, more than 27,000 acres have been scorched. >> this morning, firefighters are making some progress, but they're not in the clear yet, because strong winds and dry temperatures, they could fuel the fires even further. officials say this is unprecedented. in some cases, worlds of flames have the potential to spit out winds as strong as tornadoes. watch this one. it becomes what is becoming this firenado, a cone, a tornado of fire. let's bring in cnn's dan simon in hard-hit san marcos. dan, what's it look like where you are? >> reporter: right now, it's looking pretty good. the winds have calmed down. the temperatures are cooler. the humidity is rising. and that's enabling firefighters to begin to get a handle on these blazes. we're in san marcos, california. this is one of the areas, as you said, that's been hardest hit. you can see this home. it is just a smokey, charred mess. we're on a mountainside, and you can see off in the distance -- actually where you see that layer of clouds, that's marine layer, that's where camp pendleton is, and we're not seeing much smoke over there. so that is also good news. so here in san marcos, the containment figure is 50%. it's beginning to rise over in camp pendleton, as well. so it appears that firefighters are starting to make good progress, but, you know, as we've seen with the unpredictable nature of wildfires, they can kick up. that's why they have so many people on the ground trying to battle these blazes, both on the ground and, of course, from the sky. victor and christi? >> we know while they're trying to contain the fires, there's an investigation going on. three people arrested, one charge being brought this morning. what do you know about this? >> reporter: well, what we know is when these fires broke out, at one time you had eight essentially going at once, there was immediate speculation that arson may be at play. and we know that two teenagers were arrested, accused of trying to start some small brush fires and a man in his 50s was arrested separately, also trying -- allegedly trying to start a small brush fire. at this time they have linked any individuals to some of these bigger fires, but that's certainly something they're investigating, because again, it was so unusual to have all these fires breaking out at once. >> all righty. hey, dan simon, glad everybody there is okay. thank you so much. >> thank you, dan. we have with us this morning one of the thousands who've had to just pick up, pack up, and get out as those flames closed in. >> alicia exxon is joining us by phone from san marcos. alicia, thank you so much. we're glad you're able to join us and that you're okay. i know you've lived there for years, and you say in the last decade you've lived through two of these, quote, apocalyptic firestorms. what are you seeing? and compare this one to what you've seen in the past for us. >> well, first of all, i just thought i should mention that i am in my bed right now, in my own house. >> oh, good. >> we came home yesterday. we got the news, and our entire community was really excited to be able to get back in. we don't see any of the big billowing smoke anymore. we're just kind of left with some really poor air quality. but everybody's really excited. and just to give you a sense of -- kind of the community and what's going on, the kids have prom tonight, and there were kids in our neighborhood that were not going to be able to get into their home to get their dresses for prom, and to get their tuxes and their dresses for prom. so this is a big sense of relief. i don't really have much knowledge of -- i mean, there definitely is talk about arson. i hope that that's -- if that is what it is, i hope that they've caught the right person. we're just really hoping that we're on the road to recovery here. >> very quickly, alicia, do you know if the prom is still going forward, is going to happen? >> i'm sorry? >> do you know if the prom is going to happen as scheduled? >> yeah. i think that they are still planning a prom. i got a text last night from one of the girls at the high school asking if i could do a waterfall braid. i think they're planning on prom. we did get news that school would resume on monday. so i think they are planning on prom tonight. >> let me ask you, you have seen, as you said, a couple of these apocalyptic firestorms. >> yeah. >> you've lived there for sometime. are you going to stay? i mean, you've been fortunate thus far. you're going to stay where you are? >> we're going to stay where we are. my kids are a little older. you know, let me tell you, as structures start to burn, there becomes a very poor air quality, and it's important to pay attention to the particulate matter, because that can cause some really serious health concerns. there have been fires in the past that have burned far more structures, and that's not what we're seeing on this one. i mean, it's bad and there have been a lot of fires that have broken out. but the witch fires that i believe were in 2007, i think that those burnt -- i could be wrong on this, i think it burned more structures. i just remember hearing a lot more about the particulate matter and the chemicals that were airborne. >> so you're not experiencing any problems, you know, breathing or -- >> no. >> no? not right now? >> no. but i was back then, because i had babies, and my children were a lot smaller. if you had a child who had asthma or anything like that, you just needed to get out. and i don't -- i don't feel like it's that bad now. we had ash in our home -- we had ash on the ground of our home so that we were putting plastic down as people came from the outside and marched through our house. that was back -- that was the 2003, i think that was the 2003 fire. so i don't feel like we're experiencing that. it might be that people are on the other side of the hill who are. you know, it's all when winds. it's all about how the wind is flowing and where it's pushing that air. yeah, so -- >> we're going to check on that wind. alicia exon, thank you for sharing your story. glad you're back at home. >> yes, have fun at your prom, everybody. >> thanks, alicia. >> thanks, guys. >> sure, thank you so much. let's bring in meteorologist alexandra steel here, because she's been watching the weather that alicia was just talking about. >> tell us about the winds. how are they now? >> right, alicia makes great points. it is all about the winds and the directions from which they're coming. and that is key. you know, regardless of this -- if these were set or not set, the stage has been set for fires. this is why. dry conditions, we've got an historic drought on our hands. hot temperatures. of course, we've seen record heat day after day, month after month. and these very strong robust santa anas. santa ana, it's all about the direction from which the wind is coming. offshore, meaning blowing like this. what we're seeing now with the change is an onshore wind, blowing like this from the south, bringing in the moisture above the pacific ocean. it's cold, that water. the moisture above it is coming in and finally we're seeing that. so temperature-wise, out of the 90s into the 70s, which is good news. the temperatures are coming down. the humidity is coming up. and this is the wind. the most important thing to note, the direction from which these arrows are coming. and finally, we've seen a change in the wind direction. the pattern is breaking, the ridge is giving way to a trough, allowing for that. and you know we've got some moisture in the air. we have a dense fog advisory. so hallelujah for the dense fog. certainly the best news coming. so, you guys, the weather forecast is favorable. the fire forecast less so, because the stage is set, and we're only going to go from here. >> all right. alexandra, thank you. >> mm-hmm. >> giving us the latest there. the kidnapped girls in nigeria are still -- are still with this group, this militant group, boko haram. >> lawmakers here are now asking what the u.s. can do to help free them. so that's one of the questions we'll be talking about. also, in turkey, the death toll from that mine disaster tops 300 now. we just got new numbers. the anguish is turning into anger there. we'll have a report for you coming up. 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should they attempt this rescue? let's bring in cnn military analyst senator james marks, and cia operative bob baer. i want to start with you, bob, because the last time you and i spoke about this, you said that a rescue was unlikely. is it even possible, although these senators are calling for it? >> well, i think that the nigerians can't do it themselves. i've supervised training of hostage rescue forces in africa, and they're just not capable of recovering this many people, probably disbursed at this point in northern nigeria. so i think that if u.s. military's going to go in, i'm going to defer to general marks. you'd need a lot of troops on the ground. i'm not sure the nigerians are ready for it. nigeria has refused to negotiate. this is the problem. we're really at a stand still. >> okay. so let's go to you, general, and ask you that question. what would troops on the ground there look like, especially if these groups of girls are split up into factions? >> yeah, christi, the issue really is the united states has already committed some forces, albeit a very small number. but there are special ops forces on the ground right now trying to, what we call, develop the situation. and what that really means, it goes to bob's point, which is trying to get the nigerians in some way to acknowledge that there might be a path forward that involves something other than kinetic force. if an operation was to take place, the very first step is intelligence -- aggressive intelligence collection. that's taking place now in the form of manned aircraft collection. i think we probably are flying some drones. we're probably, most likely, sharing some unclassified satellite coverage of the area. but the key thing, back into bob's bali wick, how do you get sources on the ground where we think the girls are? bear in mind, they could be across the border in chad or cameroon, which complicates the situation, but certainly opens up additional options, as well. >> so this week a u.s. official, bob, said the nigerian military is afraid to engage boko haram. listen to this. >> boko haram is exceptionally brutal and indiscriminate in their attacks, and so, as heavy-handed as the forces on the nigerian side have been, boko haram has been even more brutal. and so, we're now looking at a military force that's, quite frankly, becoming afraid to even engage. >> so, bob, the u.s. has consistently said it does not negotiate with terrorists. if the u.s. is not willing to put boots on the ground, and maybe, you know, the president will make that decision, or we'll find out if that will happen, special forces will go at some point, and the nigerian military is, quote, afraid to engage boko haram, where does this go? >> that leaves us with an international force. you know, it's cross-border. apparently there's been an attack in the cameroons yesterday, and it goes into chad, as well. you need an international force to coordinate this. i think that the fact is that nigeria has lost control of its northeastern border. and is this spread? it's been denied it's a problem, but what if it moves into the delta? that's the whole economic backbone of nigeria, the oil-producing area. something's got to be done, because chaos in subsarahan africa is getting worse, and only with an international force, including u.s. troops, can we really, you know, take control of this. >> bob, real quickly, i wanted you to talk about boko haram and the comparison people are making to al qaeda. are they connected? >> vaguely connected by ideology. boko haram is way beyond the pale of islam. i look at them more like vicious bandits. they're in mali. they're everywhere in that area, a lot to do with economics, global warming, and the drought there. nonetheless, you have to do something about this, because you can't let it spread in africa. >> general marks, really quickly, what's your degree of confidence that the u.s. will send in some special forces? >> high degree of confidence that it will not happen. >> all right, general "spider" marks and bob baer, thank you both. >> thank you, gentlemen. >> thanks. let's get you to turkey now. anguish over a mine disaster has turned into anger. look at what's happening there. >> with the rise in death toll, so have the number of clashes between protesters and the police. a lot of the people are calling for -- saying the government is insensitive and inept when it comes to the mine safety. the death toll today topped 300, and our ivan watson is in turkey. have they recovered all the bodies at this point? or are there still some listed as missing? >> reporter: victor, yeah, just moments ago, the turkish authorities announced the rescue operation has been completed. they've recovered as of today 301 bodies from the coal mine over my shoulder, and turkish authorities say that completes the list of all the coal miners whose names were missing. the investigation into the cause of what is by far the deadliest mining disaster in turkish history, that will continue. as of this time, both executives from the company that owned and operated the mine, as well as government officials who were involved in inspecting it and making sure that it met health and safety standards, all of them are insisting there was no negligence whatsoever and they're not at all at fault for this terrible disaster. and nobody has stepped down from their jobs. and they'basically not claiming responsibility for this. in the meantime, the government and security forces seem to be putting effort into also repressing any public expression of criticism over the handling of this. dozens of people arrested in the nearby town of soma for trying to protest today. lawyers, they were roughed. one had his arm broken. yesterday, we were tear-gassed as the security forces fired water cannons and teargas at people dressed in funeral black who were chanting in honor of the names of the dead and also the turkish prime minister, he was heard threatening to slap people if they booed him when he visited this town on wednesday. so a very confusing and contradictory situation here. >> all right. >> victor and christi? 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>> no, i don't think it's enough, and i don't think it's unreasonable to ask secretary shinseki to resign. but the fact is, mr. petsal, who for some reason i want to call pretzel, because he is in one, and he put the v.a. in a huge conundrum here, he's a 40-year veteran of the v.a., and he was set to resign when his replacement was found. but the secretary knew there were problems with him last year. so again, we see, i think from the obama administration, the president, a lack of accountability. people resigning after the fact, like lois lerner. we had our hhh, health and human services secretary, resign. kathleen sebelius. after the fact of a poor rollout. so i think this makes the american people really scratch their heads, like, where is this president? he has a very passive management style, laissez faire, and then he wants to say after the veterans, like your report said, we had 40 veterans that may have died as a result of this mismanagement and rogue employees? i just don't think it's enough. it's not enough accountability. >> cornell, our colleague, jake tapper, he pressed the white house chief of staff about a letter that the chairman of the house v.a. committee sent a year ago raising similar concerns. let's play a bit of it, and we'll talk on the other side. >> how many dead veterans do you need before somebody asks the question within the white house, maybe this guy isn't the best steward of these veterans? >> the question, jake, is, are we doing everything we can every day to get the veterans the care and the -- >> but you're not. this letter was sent a year ago, and you guys ignored it. >> we've been working aggressively to not only ensure health care is expanded, made more available to our vets but people are held account as rick is doing in this case. we'll continue to do that. >> here's the question. the white house has said that eric shinseki has the president's full confidence. the question is, after these reports, why? >> well, a couple of reasons. one is that shinseki was brought in -- first, you know, let's be careful about sort of throwing sort of accusations at this point, baseless accusations at someone who put on a uniform, strapped on a gun, and went to war to fight for our country and was wounded in doing so. he was brought in to sort of take care and try to bring some reforms. >> that does not mean he's a good administrator. [ overlapping speakers ] >> some of what is going on goes above and beyond it, so let's honor sort of the guy for what he's actually done, and talk about what he's been trying to do for the last couple of years. talk to any veteran. there's problems with the v.a. there's been problems with the v.a. don't take my word for it. take speaker boehner's word for it, saying, look, he's not calling for the head of this guy either, because you know what, there are systemic problems in the v.a. long-term systemic problems with the v.a. going over time, which he was brought in do try to fix. that won't happen overnight. it has been impropriety that has happened here, so let's get to the bottom of it and try to politicize it immediately and take it to the white house. that's discourse that doesn't help move the ball along, and it certainly doesn't help our veterans. >> so wait a minute, crystal, shinseki says he's awaiting results of an inspector general's investigation before taking decisive action and what to do next. why wouldn't you start tackling the problem? >> that's exactly it. cornell raises an important point. the v.a. has been plagued by problem the going back decades. i will agree with you on that. but the secretary knew that this 40-year veteran, whether he served or not, or it doesn't matter, he's not serving the veterans, the 9 million veterans that need this health care. the question is, why didn't he just get rid of him last year when he knew about the problems? this man refused to resign. and cornell is right again. these men are on the front lines protecting us. i can tell you i'm a daughter of a veteran, and the last place my father wants to get care is the v.a. the last place. so we know these problems have been going on and on and on, and if he was there, as cornell points out, to clean up the m s mess, secretary shinseki, then why didn't he let the main guy in charge go way before this, you know, before these charges were uncovered? i mean, 40 people suspected of allegedly dying because they couldn't get care, waiting months for care? to me, it's unacceptable. and the president of the united states should come out to the american people and give a -- more than just a casual response to a question from a member of the white house press corps. >> indeed, it is systemic, cornell. and it doesn't happen overnight. this is year five. >> and your point is that he should -- that it should be immediately cleaned up -- >> or at least not be worse. >> it should be done -- okay, fine. it should have been done sooner. he appointed shinseki to come in and make reforms. he's been on the job trying to do reforms. this was not a problem created five years ago. it's probably not a problem solved overnight. look, the v.a., they serve over 230,000 appointments, i think, you know, daily. you know, so you're talking about a big bureaucracy here that's had problems for a long time. let's try to get to the bottom of it and fix it so that we're serving our veterans and not politicizing -- start pointing fingers, because we can point fingers all up and down the political spectrum. >> all right, thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. so six decades after the supreme court ordered the desegregation of american schools, the first lady is talking very vocally about a troubling trend she sees. alexander field has that story from new york. >> christi, the first lady says schools have become too divided and too much disparity between the schools. we'll bring you the numbers she's talking about after the break. ♪ oh-oh, oh, oh, la, la-la, la-la, la-la ♪ ♪ na-na-na, na-na-na-na-na some things just go together, like auto and home insurance. bundle them together at progressive, and you save big on both. ♪ oh, oh-oh, oh, oh hey, it's me! 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>> that's a great point. i mean, in order for the police to be into this, these accusers have to call 911. they have to go to the police. and that's the missing piece of this. you showed clips where sexual assault is one word used, rape is another word used. when i hear the word rape, next to homicide, it's the most important crime in the penal law, the most serious law in the criminal justice system. those accusers need to call 911. whether they've not done it because some are saying they've been discouraged by the schools, i don't understand. but i don't think the bathroom wall is the place to handle something that's as serious a crime as rape. >> okay. so, tanya, let me ask you, if these male students -- if they have committed a crime -- is truth a defense for whom ever is scrawling the names? >> well, i mean, it's certainly a defense to a civil lawsuit for defamation or something like that. you know, when you hear about, you know, these names being written on the wall, the flyers coming out, you wonder why they are resulting to this. the then that comes to my mind is desperation. if a girl has resulted to scrolling down the name of her assaulter or attacker and handing out a flier, she has lost faith in the system. she has lost faith in the university. she believes that there is no recourse for her and no justice to be had for her. so to me this is an issue of desperation with the sexual assault victims. it is an issue of not hamming these complaints appropriately, possibly the issue is not involving law enforcement when they should be. in any event, i don't really see this as vigilantism, and i see it really as a desperate attempt to have their complaints heard and to have the university appropriately respond to them. >> linda, where's the point of negligence here? i mean, i know that's a legal term. but between reporting it either on a wall or to the university, and even the department of defense, why aren't the police more involved with these universities and with these students? >> the police try to be. i mean, this is the city where i prosecuted, and my colleagues run a great special victims unit in the nypd, the d.a.'s office. the problem, as tanya knows, the federal government, in an effort to do something about the fact that all over this country campus sexual assault has been of epidemic proportions and has not been dealt with well on the campus. campuses, i think, are there to educate students. i don't think they're necessarily there to adjudicate these cases. and yet, now that the mandate of the federal government that the school must look into these. so i think there are three tiers. these cases, if they are criminal, should be with all the due process that both sides need -- accuser and accused -- in the criminal justice system. meanwhile, the schools must do something to adjudicate. and as tanya says here, whatever has happened at columbia has left these students so frustrated and so desperate that they are scrawling on bathroom walls about an issue that's so important that needs to be addressed more seriously on campus and when these cases get to the criminally a justice system, certainly there. >> so, tanya, if this isn't the answer, and they still feel like they're not being heard, what do you do? how would you advise them? >> right. so here's the thing. the decision to come forward, if you're a sexual assault victim, and i've seen this as a prosecutor, i've prosecuted sex assault cases, is a very difficult one. there are lots of reasons why victims of sex assault don't want to go to the police. one, a ton of victim shaming that goes on in the process. two, you have to be prepared to talk about the most embarrassing, horrific, traumatic experience of your life in front of complete strangers over and over and over again, just to, at the end of that, possibly see that person walk away and go free. oftentimes, they don't want to be a part of that criminal process. and what i see happening here is that, you know, these victims for whatever reason have decided not to go to the police. they are coming to the school to have it addressed appropriately at the school. what the school can do, i think at this point, is bring on retired law enforcement investigators, have a true unit there at the school who is prepared to effectively investigate these things the way they should be investigated, and then take appropriate action. so if you have found a complaint to be substantiated, okay? >> mm-hmm. >> you need to put that assaulter out of the school. you know, you've heard stories where the assaulters are getting 30 days or semester off, and then they come back, and the victim sees them in the dorm or library. you need procedures in place so you can effectively investigate and then take appropriate action so the victims don't feel like they have to take things into their hands. >> all right, thank you both so much. such a great conversation, and we're going to be back in a moment. stay close. it starts with little things. tiny changes in the brain. little things, anyone can do. it steals your memories. your independence. insures support. a breakthrough. and sooner than you'd like... ...sooner than you think. ...you die from alzheimer's disease. ...we cure alzheimer's disease. every little click, call, or donation adds up to something big. alzheimer's association. the brains behind saving yours. that corporate trial by fire when every slacker gets his due. and yet, there's someone around the office who hasn't had a performance review in a while. someone whose poor performance is slowing down the entire organization. i'm looking at you phone company dsl. check your speed. see how fast your internet can be. switch now and add voice and tv for $34.90. comcast business built for business. de>>who's got twond rhooves and just got ae. claim status update from geico? 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and hey, go make great memories today. >> keep it here, though. frederiq fredricka whitfield takes it away. >> yeah, awesome. >> all right. victor and christi, thank you so much. good to see you. it's the 11:00 eastern hour of the "cnn newsroom" which begins right now. a wall of flames and smoke spreads in southern california. half a dozen fires are now out of control, and as firefighters rush to the hot spots, residents scramble to get out. >> there was flames, there was smoke. there's people driving through the median, any which way you looked, there was a little bit of chaos. >> concerns over a ruthless terror group in nigeria intensify after a new attack today in a boko haram stronghold. hear who was targeted, plus the latest information on the search for those missing nigerian schoolgirls. and children, some as young as 7, are working 14-hour days on tobacco farms in dangerous conditions. it's happening right here in the u.s., and it's all perfectly legal. the startling watchdog report this hour. all right. we begin with those ferocious fires burning now in southern california. thousands of acres are in flames in san diego county. dozens of homes and businesses have been destroyed, and thousands more lie right in the fire's path. dan simon joins us now from san marcos, california. so, dan, i understand the weather is helping firefighters a little bit this morning? >> yeah, good morning, fredricka. the weather is cooperating. the temperatures are cooler and the humidity is rising, so that's all good. we're in san marcos, california. this is one of the areas that they're keeping an eye on, as you can see, we're in front of this charred house. it's just a smoky mess. this was somebody's dream home on a mountainside here in san marcos, california. you can see the landscape off in the distance. actually, behind there is camp pendleton, and that's another potential disaster that firefighters are keeping a close watch on. so in terms of where we are today, we know that san marcos, the fire is about 50% contained, over in camp pendleton they're trying to get those numbers up, as well, and apparently mother nature is cooperating over there. we think those numbers will go up. but in terms of the way things look now, fredricka, it looks a lot better than it did say 24, 48 hours ago. at this point, we're not seeing any active flames, but there are a lot of resources on the ground. we have more than 1,000 firefighters still here on the ground, and the aircraft are ready to be deployed at any moment should there be any hot spots. fred? >> thank you so much, dan simon, appreciate that from san marcos, california. good news on the weather front. but still a very fierce fight straight ahead for those brave firefighters. in fact, joining me on the phone right now, someone who knows exactly what crews are facing out there, mike muller is a fire captain for cal fire. so, mike, describe for us what it has been like for those 1,000 firefighters on the front lines. >> well, what we've seen, and obviously your viewers in the footage you have, was this was a very difficult week. we saw unseasonably warm temperatures, that santa ana wind, offshore flow, the critical fuel mixtures. it was a difficult week. what we've seen overnight in the past about 24 hours is an onshore flow. the weather's on our side. and i really feel, again cautiously optimistic, that we're going to turn the corner on these fires today, we hope. >> and what gives you that feeling, because the weather conditions are much more promising today than they have been? >> that's -- yeah, that's exactly it. we've got the higher humidities. the temperatures should drop about 10 degrees today. and then humidity levels should come up. really, what was pushing those fires was that offshore santa ana wind, and that has completely subsided, so it gives our firefighters a chance to go direct, is what we would call it on these fires, and not go what we call flanking because of the wind-driven fires. right now, direct attack. our focus is to get a containment line around all of the fires today. >> mike muller, we wish you the best. and we hope that you and all of the firefighters involved stay safe as the residents, as well. firefighters battling those california wildfires could get a break today in large part because of the weather, as we've opinion mentioning. meteorologist alexandra steel says it has been -- it has been perfect-storm conditions, the weather. but now, how's it looking in your view? >> yeah, it really has, fred, had the perfect storm in terms of everything coming together. the confluence of the atmosphere has set the stage for these fires. captain mike certainly was very promising and certainly had a positive outlook, didn't he? and the weather is turning the corner. you know, it has been the recipe for these wildfires. no matter how they have started. the ground certainly has been set and certainly staged for it. why? we've got dry conditions. just an incredible drought. last year was the worst since 1895. this year, exponentially worse than that. hot temperatures, record heat day after day, month after month, and also these very strong, hot santa ana winds. santa ana blows offshore, so hot, dry winds blowing from the north-northeast. but now we're going to see a change in the wind direction, and that tells the tale. high temperatures, we've been in the 90s in los angeles. should be in the 70s, back to the 70s. so the temperatures are surely going in the right direction. which is down. the moisture is coming the right direction, and that is up. and really what tells the tale with this is these wind barbs, and the direction from which they're coming, emanating from. and it's here. it's the water. it's the cold pacific ocean, bringing in all this moisture. so finally, this is, like, the first day we've had a tense fog advisory. we've had it all morning long. and certainly that shows you, what's a fog, of course, a cloud on the ground. the clouds are made up of water molecules, and that is moisture. what we've seen, weather conditions certainly, fred, are favorable, and to the effect of the temperatures that way, humidity that way, the fire forecast is less so. i mean, they're going to get it under containment now, but the problem is, you know, this year alone we've doubled the five-year average just thus far with fires. so fire forecast less so as we look out. short-term weather forecast certainly much better than it's been. >> mm, okay. we like that optimism. thank you so much, alexandra steele. appreciate that. all right. the focus overseas now, nigeria's president is in paris today to talk about the growing threat from boko haram terrorists, and this comes the same day as poboko haram is suspected in a new attack. we'll go live to paris next. ♪ ♪ abe! get in! punch it! let quicken loans help you save your money. with a mortgage that's engineered to amaze! thanks, g. donald sterling is fighting back against the nba. in a letter this week, sterling told the nba he won't pay the $2.5 million fine, and he's rejecting the lifetime ban. he also said he plans to sue if the nba doesn't back down. that came a few days after this apology in an exclusive interview with anderson cooper. >> i'm a good member who made a mistake, and i'm apologizing and i'm asking for forgiveness. am i entitled to one mistake, after 35 years? >> so it was the apology that didn't really seem to fix much, and it puts him in a category of business leaders who have stumbled and fallen flat when a sincere apology is needed most. cnn money's christine romans has more on that. >> i'm really sorry. i am. i'm sorry. >> it doesn't matter if you apologize if it's not sincere. >> apologies don't have to be sincere. it's just the act of the apology itself. >> reporter: the art of the apology may be lost on larry david, but the corporate suite doesn't always get it right either. after dealing with the deepwater horizon oil spill in 2010, bp's ceo tony hayward offered this -- >> i'm sorry. we're sorry for the massive disruption it's caused to their lives. and, you know, there's no one who wants this thing over more than i do. you know, i'd like my life back. >> reporter: he got his life back. he was replaced less than two months later and comedy central "south park" rubbed it in. >> we're sorry. sorry. >> reporter: nothing says sorry like free pizza. that's what chevron offered residents of bob town, pennsylvania, after one of its gas wells exploded killing a worker. "the daily show" mocked the attempted apology. >> all right. okay. everyone calm down. it sounds like you're hungry. i know just the trick. pizza! >> reporter: comfort food couldn't help paula deen. she took a seat on the "today" show to apologize for making racist comments, and she got biblical. >> if there's anyone out there that has never said something that they wish they could take back, if you are out there, please pick up that stone and throw it so hard at my head that it kills me. >> reporter: but deen couldn't butter up her sponsors. they fled. and her network show shut down. deen is attempting a comeback. for lieu lemon's former chairman, there was no commenting back from the company's high-priced yoga pants. >> quite frankly, some woman's bodies actually don't work for it. >> reporter: co-founder chip wilson tried to apologize after offending customers, but his mea culpa was only to employees. >> i'm sorry to have put you all through this. >> reporter: sales stalled, the stock plunged, wilson resigned. at target, ceo greg steinhaufle apologized for a hack that expos exposed customers' information. it came with 10% off for a whole weekend. he resigned. >> and i'm so sorry. i'm so apologetic. >> reporter: the lesson for donald sterling, in business, saying sorry isn't enough. it's how you say it. christine romans, cnn, new york. all right. so how does sterling's apology rank? for more an that, i'm joined by communications consultant frazier sautel. frazier, good to see you. so if anyone thought that his apology on the air with anderson cooper was sincere, as soon as he said i'm not paying that $2.5 million fine, didn't that very much undermine that apology and kind of throw it out the window? >> boy, it really did, fredricka. donald sterling is a walking advertisement as to why people in the public spotlight need public relations counselors. every time he opens his mouth, he digs a deeper hole out of which he has no chance of ascending. yesterday was the cue de gras, said i will accommodate the will of my fellow nba owners, and then turns around and has his attack dog lawyer sending this letter to the nba saying there's no way sterling will pay any fine. he's a textbook example of what not to do in a crisis. >> but now, at the same time, he's in the driver's seat, isn't he, of this whole situation. it seemed that the nba had the upper hand by imposing the fine, by saying collectively the owners will have a vote. but now, he's in the driver's seat, and it seems like he's not the only one with the image problem. in your view, do you think the nba, too, the commissioner, the league, has an image problem on their hands, as well? >> well, the nba really has a public relations challenge, you're quite right. the owners are going to vote him out of the league. that's what's going to happen. the question for the nba is, what do you do now with the sterling family. that is, with the soon-to-be divorced wife, with the daughter and son-in-law, who work for the team, how do you handle them? at the same time, as you say, sterling is going to sue the nba. thus far, adam silver, the commissioner of the league, has been resolute. he's been stern, if i can use the name of his predecessor. he's been correct in everything he's done. the fun starts now with the sterling family, who has done, we think, no wrong, and the suit of donald sterling, and, of course, you have magic johnson in the background, as well, which complicates the situation further. >> well, if you were asked, how would you advise the nba at this point in terms of how it responds to the threats of the legal challenges that sterling may have up his sleeve, or -- and/or, what would be the advice you would give sterling and his people about its continued pursuit? >> i think what i would tell the nba, fredricka, is that there is no way, after all of this has come down, that donald sterling should ever be a part of the clippers, and i you a spekt -- suspect any member of the sterling family as well. the sterling name has to be wiped clear of the nba, because of the remarks that donald sterling has made. in terms of the advice, the public relations advice for donald sterling, i would tell him five words. shut up and get out. >> okay. simple as that. frank and kurt, straight to the point. fraser, exactly what you're known for. thank you so much for your point of view. >> thank you. all right. overseas, shifting gears, quite a bit, those missing schoolgirls in nigeria still a huge focus and worry around the world. nigeria's president is now attending a summit in paris this hour talking about the growing threat from boko haram, the terrorists. we'll take you there live next. it's now been over a month since more than 200 schoolgirls were kidnapped by terrorists in nigeria, and the nigerian government doesn't appear to be any closer to finding them. here's what we know right now -- nigeria's president goodluck jonathan spoke moments ago and he addressed the growing threat from boko haram. this comes one day after jonathan was supposed to visit the town where the girls were kidnapped, but then now his staff claims he was never scheduled to go there at all. today, boko haram is suspected of a you in attack, this time targeting a chinese firm near the border. ten people are missing. boko haram has used attacks like this to demand ransom in the past. let's turn now to jim bittermann who is focusing on today's summit in paris. so, jim, how do they collectively plan to address nigeria's security problem and that of boko haram? >> reporter: well, i think, fredricka, there's a fair amount of acknowledgement now that there has not been in the past that this is now a regional problem, that boko haram is a terrorist organization. both president and others made a connection between boko haram and al qaeda, saying it's a major threat to the region. there are five heads of state here. jonathan, benin of cameroon, niger and chad are all gathered here. those are all of the neighboring countries around nigeria. and basically, they're pledging to cooperate in terms of intelligence and in terms of border surveillance. one of the things about boko haram is they've been striking mainly from cameroon and retreating to the sanctuaries in cameroon into nigeria. in any case, they're trying to coordinate things regionally. about the schoolgirls, goodluck jonathan specifically talked about that, kind of reacting to the charges that they hadn't been doing enough. >> entirely committed to ensuring that these girls are found wherever they are and make sure that their families, we'll do our best -- presently, nigeria has 20,000 troops in this part of the country, the northeastern part of the country, where we have these terrorists. we've been scanning the areas with surveillance aircrafts, and also using local intelligence sources. this has been complemented now by france, u.k., u.s., and countries -- >> reporter: one of the things that's come out of this that's very tangible is all the countries in the region have given overflight permission to outside military agencies like france and the united states to fly intelligence aircraft and drones over the areas. and that will give them a little bit better picture, hopefully, of where to find the girls, although at one point, francois hollande and goodluck jonathan made the point they don't know whether the girls are still together as a group or have been broken up and are in different hiding places around the country. fredricka? >> jim, we heard the nigerian president say there were 20,000 nigerian troops fanned out looking for these young girls. but then, as you know, in our cnn reporting, our correspondent who was in the chibuk area where boarding school is located, it's been reported there are no signs of any kind of military presence, no police presence, no investigation whatsoever. was the president pressed on that? or was he asked to respond about the whereabouts of these troops? >> reporter: well, one telling thing is that he was supposed to go to that area, as you mentioned in the lead-in, he was supposeds to go that area today and decided not to among security reasons, among other things. the troops may be there, but they must be pretty well diluted. it's a pretty wild area, it must be said. there's also no clear idea of where exactly these girls may be, or if they're together as a group at all. right now, they could be off in small groups. and so, it may be very, very difficult to track them down. that's one of the reasons they're hoping that these overflights and drones perhaps will be able to spot where the boko haram forces are and where they'll have to go to find the girls. fredricka? >> a big hope riding on that kind of apparatus. thank you so much, jim bittermann, in paris. >> yeah. crews are making progress on wildfires raging in southern california. part of the investigation is figuring out how the fire started in the first place, or maybe who started them. next, an arson investigator tells us how officials know the difference. ♪ ♪ ♪ ben! well, that was close! you ain't lying! let quicken loans help you save your money. with a mortgage that's engineered to amaze! ...i got lots of advice, but i needed information i could trust. unitedhealthcare's innovative, simple program helps moms stay on track with their doctors to get the right care and guidance. 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>> yes, i can. >> okay, very good. so, jeff, what is it about this fire or what is the evidence left behind that now leads investigators to believe and charge one person with arson that at least one of these fires was intentionally set? >> well, they have very good witness information, and from the media reports, no longer fully connected to the law enforcement side of the fire department side of things. but one person is going to be -- or has been charged today, was seen feeding a fire that was already burning in a riverbed. it was very small. he was the only person in the area. and then they'll do an origin and cause examination to make sure no other possible causes for that fire, and as i understood it from the district attorney, he will be charged with that arson. >> and at the very beginning, as the world witnessed these blazes, were your instincts telling you that this is likely a fire that was intentionally set to some degree? or is it just as simple as the conditions seemed to be right and this is something that could happen naturally? >> well, unfortunately, when the conditions are like that, any mistake anybody make can result in a pretty large fire pretty quickly. as you could see from the one fire that happened within the city -- or at least originated within the city of san diego, they've now determined that was a piece of construction equipment with steel treads merely striking rocks and creating sparks. that doesn't always result in an ininitial of dry vegetation. but in that particular case, the winds were really blowing, the vegetation was extremely dry, the fuel mixtures have been critical for a while, and we're in this period of sustained drought where there isn't that much moisture to replenish, if you will, in the plants, and that fire just took off from around the guy -- his statements -- >> sorry. >> -- and then they -- well, they had the statements of an equipment operator. they were able to find out who reported the fire. they figured out where the fire first started and they were able to find out that that piece of equipment, that tractor, was the most likely cause or ignition source for the fuels. >> you were an arson investigator -- yeah, i wonder, you were an arson investigator for many years. and while a fire is burning, take us through the process how investigators are then able to try to determine what may have sparked the fire, all the while other resources are being poured into trying to stop the fire? >> well, it can be very difficult, because it's a very dynamic situation. the one you just described is one where it could be difficult to get ahold of witnesses immediately. it could be hard talking to the firefighters who first got there. you get their perspective on where the fire was and it was not. the fire investigation methodology that's common throughout the united states right now is to go immediately, check in with the person managing the fire so that they know you're there, and then find out if they have any specific information that's been reported to them, and from that point work backwards from the area to the area of the most damage and determine where the fire first started. once that's happened, they have the ability to start looking for all of the possible accidental ignition sources. in fact, if they're all eliminated, then they're going to have a real hard time figuring out what caused the fire. in any case, you get lucky, i did that once in my career, i found the cigarette and matchbook device almost the moment we started looking. >> wow, incredible. >> it really depends on the motivations of the person who's going to set that fire. but you can't just determine that a fire's arson first. first, you have to figure out where it starts, and then you have to start looking at all of the possible accidental sources of ignition. and again, as we first said, the weather for the last three days here has just been extraordinary. >> because of the weather, and you're talking about the entire state is in the midst of extreme drought, do you worry that this is really the beginning of what could be a very dangerous season? >> this is one of the most dramatic starts to fire season i've seen. i've been a firefighter in southern california for all of my adult life. and it's an extraordinary set of circumstances that reverse of what we've seen in the past. and we normally see this kind of extreme fire behaviors and fire conditions much later in the year. >> all right. thanks so much, jeff carle. appreciate it. >> my pleasure, thank you. those fires are indeed very dangerous. and this is one big reason why. firenado ems, they look like something made in special effects, and they make fighting wildfires that much more difficult. here's indra peterson and her look at the science behind fi firenadoes. >> reporter: so many are fascinated, what is it? first, keep in mind you need a lot of dry brush. unfortunately, california is seeing one of the worst droughts in history. we're talking about a majority of the state already in extreme drought conditions. so why does that matter, right? well, you have all of the dry brush. let's look at this animation here. what you have is that dry brush, it's fuel. keep in mind a fire already has its invisible eddies it spins up from the fire itself. now, it finds that brush. what is brush, right? releases carbon. carbon is combustible. here in the middle of this funnel, there's no oxygen. so you don't see it engulf into flames. once it rises up, the entire tunnel, what do you find, oxygen. suddenly the thing engulfs in flames and you have the long line we know as a firenado. that's the concern, but even more dangerous is how high these firenadoes can go. you can see they can soar into the air as high as 1,000 feet. this is the problem firefighters are trying to battle. and keep in mind, you can't combat the firenado directly. you have to fight the fire around it, because of the combustible flames on the inside you cannot fight directly. and they can be as powerful as tornadoes themselves. they're not coming from a supercell, but either way, winds can go as high as 120 miles an hour, knock down trees and move the fire line away from the original starting pointment definitely difficult for firefighters on the battle lines. >> thank you so much for that look. appreciate it. children as young as 7 working on tobacco farms are getting sick with rashes, burning eyes, nausea, and vomiting. and this may be perfectly legal. now, some people say that needs to change. all stations come over to mission a for a final go. this is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers. could mean less waiting for things like security backups and file downloads you'd take that test, right? 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"they're too young to smoke it, buy it, then why in the world would the children be permitted allowed to work in the fields, you know, plucking and packaging tobacco no less? >> yeah, these findings are shocking, and people should be surprised. but under u.s. law, kids as young as 12 can work 50 to 60 hours a week on tobacco farms. they have no protections. they're given no safety gear. and most of this is perfectly legal. >> and that's the part that's so perplexing. we know there's some lawmakers trying to -- trying to change that, but does it seem like it will be an uphill battle for them? >> we are going to continue calling on congress to change labor law and we're calling on u.s. regulatory agencies to establish regulations to get kids out of dangerous work. but we also want to see tobacco companies establish clear policies to keep kids out of dangerous work on farms in their supply chains. >> what are the tobacco companies saying in general? why is it that a farmer of tobacco fields and, you know, clearly the tobacco companies are all all right with children being in the fields? what's the explanation? >> yeah, we wrote to ten companies as part of this report, and nine of them responded. these are the largest tobacco companies in the world, and they all say they're concerned about child labor and their supply chains, but none of them have policies that do enough to protect kids from the hazards we documented in this report. >> what were some of the children, what were some of the parents telling you as to why these children do endure these conditions, work out in the fields? is it as simple as, you know, making money and putting food on the table? or is there another issue here? >> look, kids in all four states told us the same reasons for why they're doing this work, which is economic need. they are using their earnings to help their families make ends meet. but we want to see kids get out of this dangerous work, and we're calling on companies to invest in alternatives, so kids have other opportunities. and this isn't the only option for them. >> and what are the options that you've been trying to tell these companies about? >> yeah, there are programs in place in many of these states, and there are, you know, networks of local groups that know farm worker families well. and we want to see the companies work together with the local stakeholders and invest more in programs here in the united states to keep kids out of dangerous work. >> and as far as you know, i mean, these young children talked openly about how being around this tobacco, touching it, the wetness of the tobacco, getting on their skin would make them sick, nauseated. they would vomit. they would get rashes. do these children go to the hospital? you know, are they -- are they attended to medically? >> very few of them ever seek any kind of medical care. the symptoms usually last 12 to 24 hours, and if they're not continually being exposed to the nicotine, they feel better. you have to understand as well, no one told these kids and their families about how hazardous the chemicals are, the pesticides are, how bad the nicotine exposure is for kids. they're out there not really knowing how bad the conditions are they're working in. >> all right, margaret wurth, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. >> at 1:00, i'll be talking to a young man. he's only 17. he says he has grown up working in the tobacco fields of north carolina. this week, he shared his experiences on capitol hill. you can read much more about this issue on cnn.com. we also profile an 11-year-old girl working on a tobacco farm. straight ahead, it's round two in the race for the triple crown. can california chrome win the preakness as well? we're moving our company to new york state. the numbers are impressive. over 400,000 new private sector jobs... making new york state number two in the nation in new private sector job creation... with 10 regional development strategies to fit your business needs. and now it's even better because they've introduced startup new york... with the state creating dozens of tax-free zones where businesses pay no taxes for ten years. become the next business to discover the new new york. 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our legal guys weigh in this hour. first up, the raging wildfires in san diego county, six are burning now. dozens of homes and businesses have been destroyed, many more are at risk, and firefighters say it could be a critical day for them on the front line. dan simon joins us from san marcos, california. dan, i understand the weather which you've gotten a break really could turn things around? >> reporter: that's exactly right, fred. so far the weather is cooperating. you know, here in san marcos, this was deemed the most worry some fire through the event. the fire is 70% contained. that's very good nugs. that said, there's still some devastation. you look at this house, it is nothing but a charred mess. this was a dream house for the homeowner, and making matters even worse for the homeowner is that the only house in the neighborhood to catch fire, so very unlucky indeed. out in the distance, you can see a little cloud layer, sort of a fog layer. that's camp pendleton. we're not seeing much smoke over there. so that's also good news. talking about the weather, the temperature is a bit cooler, humidity is rising, and i am not seeing wind at the moment. perhaps this will allow the firefighters to get the upper hand. we are trying to figure out the cause, fredricka. some speculated arson might be at play. we know three were taken into custody, two teenagers accused of starting small brush fires, an elderly man in his 50s accused of trying to start a brush fire. see if those individuals might be responsible for some of the bigger fires. at this point nothing to link them to that, but as firefighters continue to put out some of the hot spots concurrently, they're trying to figure out the cause. >> and still a very dangerous situation for the firefighters trying to get to the bottom of it all. thanks so much, dan simon. appreciate it. firefighters battling the california wildfires could get a break today. meteorologist alexandra steele says it has been kind of perfect weather conditions for something like this to take place. alexandra? fred, it really has. whatever the cause, the stage has been set for wildfires to develop, and why? it is kind of the perfect recipe. we had dry conditions. last year, the driest year on record since 1895. this year, exacerbating worse than that. hot temperatures, record heat, weeks and months this year. also the very strong santa ana winds, the hot, dry, offshore winds, below this heat really from the north and from the east this way, which created a compression. thus it warms. now we have seen a change in the wind direction, and that's the key to this. so high temperatures the last five days in los angeles, temperatures as high as 97 degrees. now finally coming down closer to average for the next couple days. and again, a lot of that he is predicated on changing wind direction. we have a ridge of high pressure in control. that eradicated. now we're seeing a trough. you can see the wind direction, fred, coming from the water, finally bringing in some moisture. we even had a dense fog advisory. fog is clouds on the ground and clouds are water molecules. finally, fred, temperatures coming down and humidity and moisture is coming up. >> thanks so much, alexandra. keep us posted. appreciate that. india has a controversial new leader. i'll tell you why his election could cause some tensions with the u.s. and the first lady speaks out on segregation. 60 years after the brown versus board of education ruling. when jake and i first set out on our own, we ate anything. but in time you realize the better you eat, the better you feel. these days we both eat smarter. and i give jake purina cat chow naturals. made with real chicken and salmon, it's high in protein like a cat's natural diet. and no added artificial flavors. we've come a long way. and whatever's ahead, we'll be there for each other. naturally. purina cat chow naturals. life with crohn's disease ois a daily game of "what if's". what if my abdominal pain and cramps come back? 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>> of course there are. we use the same methods to place children in school we did when we had the brown versus board of education decision, which is your zip code. in fact, if the first lady and the democrats are so committed to integration, they may want to consider stop fighting the programs that are going to create integration like school of choice. stop being against schools like charter schools and magnet schools and the very real options that are making it possible for integration to occur. >> help people understand why is it there are some that are blaming charter schools, who are blaming private schools, for bringing about this kind of segregation in terms of coloring the makeup of public schools by virtue of giving people choices. there are critics of that formula. >> of course there are, it is the same critics that want to make sure our children stay in failed schools in neighborhoods where they live so they can maintain their jobs and maintain the status quo. charter schools are schools of choice, the same as historical black colleges and other colleges and universities are schools of choice. if you go to that school, most cases what you find in most charter schools, they're in some of the lowest performing school systems in america. but this is not about charter schools. they educate 6% of american children. 94% of the children go to other schools. it is a red herring. this is the democrats unwilling to stand up and say we as democrats in many situations are the people who head the school boards in the low performing school systems, where the mayors and commissioners, and we're the individuals that keep the system in place. the problem is that we are more committed to adult issues than children's concerns. >> so when you say the problem being the adult issues as opposed to the children's concerns, does this speak to the fact that, you know, you're laying out the picture here that too many public schools are simply not getting the resources. and turns out schools that are not getting resources happen to be schools where the makeup is mostly of color? >> no, no, no, i'm not saying that at all. this has nothing to do with resources. this has to do with if you're a black kid, in a black community, you go to the school at the bottom of your street. that's the issue. school of choice would allow a child regardless of color to go to a school that best meets their families desires. there are about a million children on waiting lists to go to public school choices now. and the reason they're not going is not because of resources, it is because the democrats are working against many forms of school reform for about 30 years. >> you see it as very much a political issue. >> that's all it is. it can be changed, just like now. the school i'm in now is not a charter school, it is a magnet school, it is an integrated school. an integrated school because what happened, there was a court case in connecticut that said the same thing brown versus board of education said, if you live in a neighborhood and forced to go to school in the enabled, you will in fact go to a segregated school. so our school as a magnet school draws from 30 cities and towns. the majority of the children are still black and latino, but many of them are white. >> steve perry, thanks so much. always good to see you. it is being called a new start for india. in a landslide vote, modi is claiming victory as the new prime minister. it will be the first time in 25 years they haven't had a coalition government. this victory isn't necessarily good news for u.s. relations with the world's biggest democracy. >> reporter: he may be the prime minister in waiting, but for years he was not welcome in the united states. the u.s. state department denied him a visa in 2005, following bloody anti-muslim riots in his home state in india. but now, three u.s. state department officials tell cnn he will be granted a visa once he takes office, like all heads of government. a stauch internationalist was there when sectarian violence broke out in 2002. more than 1,000 people, mostly muslims were killed in the violence. as a result, the u.s., britain, and european powers effectively imposed a diplomat i can freeze on him for years. he denied any wrongdoing. india's supreme court absolved him of blame last year. this week with voting under way, u.s. officials dodged questions about his visa status. >> as you know, we don't speak to visa acceptance, application, et cetera. >> reporter: the u.k. reinstated relations with him in 2012, part of a boost to ties with india. the u.s. is now ready to follow suit. the state department officials say they look forward to working with india's next leader. >> we view our relationship with india as one that's vitally important for economic, strategic reasons, and one that we look forward to continuing to grow in the future. >> the prime minister of india will be welcomed to the united states. >> reporter: now that his party has won a landslide victory, his visa eligibility in the words of one u.s. official is a moot point. >> and becky anderson joining us live. still somewhat controversial? >> reporter: yeah, but i think this is the deal now, people have got over it, even those that didn't vote. on top of his promise to fix what is a faltering $2 trillion indian economy, let me tell you, expect him to be looking to the u.s. for help on that. america inc and american investors crucial to his plans to make the second most populous country a major powerhouse. in 2012, president obama told india that the u.s. and india could form what would be the defining relationship of the 21st century. since then, we all know the u.s. has pivoted further east, claiming that as the world's super powers, india's regional rival beijing and washington could be natural partners. that doesn't impress new delhi, the capital here. now that he no longer has a visa issue with america, i would wager he will make washington one of his first stops on his tour to sell the prospects and possibilities of a new india inc. >> all right, becky anderson in new delhi, thanks so much. up next, i'll tell you why there is new controversy over the search for flight 370. that's next. when it comes to good nutrition...i'm no expert. that would be my daughter -- hi dad. she's a dietitian. and back when i wasn't eating right, she got me drinking boost. it's got a great taste, and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. helping me stay more like me. 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>> well, it could be on the part of the malaysian government. however, i disagree with mary a little bit. there are some restrictions i think as to how it is interpreted, and i am no lawyer. stand to correct me if i'm wrong, mary. if you're party to the investigation, you can't release information without permission of the investigator in charge. if they're not an official party to the investigation, how did they have information pertaining to the flight, that in my estimation would be a party to the investigation. simply a matter of the investigator in charge saying we don't care if you release the data, it is nothing particular. please release it. at that point, immarsat could release it. here is the mystery. who is the investigator in charge? i haven't been able to determine it. so many people in charge, i am in charge, but no one said in accordance with annex 13, should be one person. even on preliminary report didn't give a name. >> mary, there are several investigations, whether it is criminal intent, the investigation of looking for the plane, debris, the investigation of why the plane turned. there are a lot of things going on. who would lead that. malaysia or some other entity? >> technically it is malaysia. it is the malaysian investigation. but they handed off a good chunk of it to australia. we have been used to angus houston briefing us and gained the trust of the world. technically they're only leading the search. there were some issues, what happens when it gets on shore, then what happens with the investigation of the wreckage, if it is found. but then australia this week released a price tag. said they needed $90 million, and malaysia, australia and channel 9 wanted other countries to contribute. i think it is clear since australia released the budget that they have a very strong role in this. one more thing on immarsat, they're out there marketing service to the airlines, saying hiring our services, and are not official party to the investigation. in the midst of the marketing they're doing, they need some reliabili reliability. how reliable are the numbers. >> they had problems with bluefin, there was damage, but to be expected when you talk about so many days and weeks in the water with a search of this magnitude. but how concerned are you about being able to get other apparatus in the area in the meantime? >> fred, you're right, it is anticipated and expected that they're going to have this kind of thing. that raises the next question. why then don't they have backup, another bluefin, why don't they have other equipment. they must have so much confidence the aircraft was there and bluefin would take care of it that they didn't plan ahead or didn't realize how long it would take to put teams together to do this search. >> mary, confidence misplaced here? >> well, i think there was overconfidence, i don't know if misplaced in location, but so much emphasis put on this piece of equipment given to them by the united states for this. we have two cnn analysts, they probably have more underwater search capability and vehicles than the entire malaysian operation. cnn analysts probably have more than anybody in the world. >> all right. mary she after oh, david souc i.e., appreciate it. it is threatening their homes. the california wildfires. the fight against the flames straight ahead. ameriprise asked people a simple question: in retirement, will you outlive your money? 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>> fred, he obviously watched our show last week because i advised him to talk to -- he ought to retain counsel to combat the incoming. he got a very prominent antitrust counsel in los angeles. what they're threatening to litigate is whether or not despite provisions of the franchise agreement, do the nba owners and nba have the right to ban an owner based on alleged racism. do they have the right to compel the sale of a property interest, and what they're going to argue in litigation, if they bring this litigation, is the nba is acting arbitrary and capricious, inconsistent with other acts of owners and players in the past, that it is a conspiracy sounding antitrust, and that the nba is not adhering to rules and regulations of the nba, in particular article 13 d, because here sterling was set up in an illegal certificate up tishs recording. >> it wasn't -- >> who illegally recorded him, then published it. he did not publish the comments. >> i wonder, richard, if you're talking about article 13, talking about the unethical conduct and then he actually goes on national television, he admits that he made a mistake and that he is very apologetic, only to retract that later. he's already admitting now that he made a mistake and that he violated that code of conduct, didn't he? >> that's right. >> no, what he said was in a private personal conversation he said things that he shouldn't have said, that he regrets saying. but fred, listen, if you take it in the total context, it is a three to five year bloodbath, millions and millions of dollars spent in litigation. isn't dialogue as my friends say, isn't dialogue better than monologue? shouldn't the parties build a bridge rather than a wall? couldn't they structure a resolution here. >> no. >> where the multi billionaire made substantial donation to minority charity? >> time for the multi billionaire to go. he is effecting sponsors and fans and the reputation of the nba, and he's effecting this nation. it is time for him to go. >> the nation? >> i think we have a sound bite. mary? let's listen to the sound bite, a reflection of what donald sterling said in the interview with anderson cooper. >> right. >> i think a little bit harsh, you know. >> what part of it. >> what are we supposed to do? they're in a -- a stupid owner created all of these problems. they have to show that they're not going to stand for that. the league won't stand for that. they won't stand for racism, i'm telling you, and i did it. >> there we go. >> richard, do you want to rethink any of your thoughts? after hearing it -- >> fredricka, wow! wow! >> he made a mistake, admitting racist comments. the nba says this is what we are going to do. >> take it out of context, fred, it was a private, personal conversation. >> his words out of context? >> yeah. we only heard snippets of an entire hour long conversation. the man was motivated -- it is taken out of context. she was setting him up to extort him. that's what this is about. it is a civil matter. >> actions do not demonstrate he is a racist. he gives millions of dollars to the naacp. the woman is -- >> oh, no! >> he comes out with an apology, the nba won't stand for racism, well, gosh, then he's admitting that he did err, he made a mistake, made some racist comments and almost saying those comments were not taken out of context. >> just say fredricka is right. >> he made the context under the guise of trying to go to bed with this woman who was setting him up. that's when he made the comments. it is taken out of context here. this man has not been demonstrated to be a racist. there's not one allegation that he was racist in the ownership of the clippers. not one single allegation, fred. >> avery, but the legal road is set. donald sterling makes this admission on national television, then says -- >> absolutely. >> -- after advising his attorney that now he is going to take this other route, he is not even going to pay the fine, that he won't pay the fine, is that now a new i guess obstacle that the nba has to tackle? 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who is suffering through that? children as young as seven and it is happening here in the u.s. we begin with ferocious fires burning in southern california. thousands of acres are in flames in san diego county. dozens of homes and businesses destroyed. many more lie right in the fire's path. dan simon joins us from san marcos, california, in front of what used to be someone's dream home. what else is happening there today? >> reporter: this pretty much tells you everything that a destructive wildfire can do. take a look at this house. it is a charred mess. you can see in certain parts smoke smoldering there in the ruins. but things are looking better in san marcos. this was deemed to be the most worrisome of the fires. we are told it is contained. about 70% contained. even though things are looking better, it is no consolation for people that go to a local university, the cal state university, san marcos, they were supposed to have graduation ceremony this weekend, but it has been cancelled. no word yet if those ceremonies will be rescheduled. a really unfortunate timing for those folks. in terms of the overall fire scene, we are told there's still six active fires, but most of them are nearly fully contained at this point, fred, because the weather has gotten much better and is enabling firefighters to get an upper hand on things. that said, there are still a lot of firefighters on the ground, in case there are flareups. we are told that aircraft can deploy if necessary, but at this point we haven't seen any of the helicopters in the sky dropping water, fred. >> there have been some arrests, one person was charged? >> reporter: one person was charged. we know two teenagers were arrested, and a man in his 50s accused of trying to do the same thing. at this point they haven't been charged with trying to start the bigger fires, but because you had so many going at once, had eight going within the span of 24 hours, speculation immediately turned to whether or not arson may be in play. that's certainly something that authorities are investigating. >> dan simon, thanks so much from san marcos, california. firefighters could get a break today. meteorologist alexandra steele says conditions are perfect for terrible fires like this. the recipe for wildfires is there no matter who sets it. dry conditions, check. we have that. last year, one of the driest years on record in california. this year already usurping that. also hot temperatures, record heat, days and days and months and months. last month alone in san francisco, into the 90s. a higher temperature than the entire last year. also of course the strong santa ana winds, the hot compressional winds that we see that come like this, bring in hot, dry air. you see a change of that. we are seeing improving conditions. one, winds changed direction. temperatures have come down as well. los angeles today in the 80s. but we will watch temperatures move into the 70s away from the 90s this last week. also, the important thing on this map, the direction from which the wind barbs come from the cool ocean. finally an onshore flow, helping to kind of eradicate some of the dry air. also, fred, we're going to see humidity come up higher than it has been in days as we head into the next couple days. >> all right. a little hope there. thanks so much, alexandra steele. across the country today people are commemorating the 60th anniversary of brown versus board of education decision. it was the 9-0 ruling by the u.s. supreme court in 1954 that outlawed segregation in public schools. the case rose from a complaint about the school system in topeka, kansas. first lady michelle obama delivered a high school commencement address in topeka yesterday evening, and she said some segregation remains. >> so today by some measures, our schools are as segregated as they were back when dr. king gave his final speech, and as a result many young people in america are going to school largely with kids that look just like them. >> earlier i spoke with dr. steve perry who founded a magnet school in hartford, connecticut. he says the disparity problem lies with our leaders. >> school of choice would allow a child, regardless of their color, to go to the school that best meets their family's desires, and there are about a million children on waiting lists to go to public school choices now, and the reason they're not going is not because of resources, it is because the democrats have been working against many forms of school reform for about 30 years. >> let's bring in erin mcpike. the first lady's comments prompted discussion about disparity in public schools. did the white house expect this was going to happen? >> reporter: well, fred, not necessarily, but you're right. her comments have inspired a lot of talk today, but as you'll hear her describe in these comments, she believes the problem is more cultural. >> many young people in america are going to school largely with kids that look just like them, and too often those schools aren't equal, especially ones attended by students of color, which too often lag behind, with crumbling classrooms and less experienced teachers. and even in schools that seem integrated, according to the numbers, when you look a little closer, you see students from different backgrounds, sitting at separate lunch tables, or in different classes, separated into different clubs or activities. >> reporter: numbers from the pugh research center do bear this out, some of the numbers we have seen say that 15% of white students are in schools where more than half the students are from minority groups, but she didn't really have a policy prescription in her remarks last night. she encouraged students to take action on a more personal level. listen here. >> now, our laws may not separate us based on our skin color, but nothing in the constitution says we have to eat together in the lunchroom or live together in the same neighborhoods. there's no court case against believing in stereotypes or thinking that certain kinds of hateful jokes or comments are funny. so the answers to many of our challenges today can't necessarily be found in our laws. these changes also need to take place in our hearts and in our minds. >> reporter: fred, she also talked about how integration in brown v board helped her own life, helped her go to princeton and harvard, have gotten her to the white house herself, fred. >> erin mcpike at the white house, thanks so much. children as young as 7 years old are harvesting tobacco and this isn't a third world country. it is taking place right here in the u.s. coming up later. and eric shinseki finally speaking out about allegations that veterans died waiting for care at va hospitals. he says he is working on solving the problem, but isn't enough. that's next. your home and auto bundle insurance together. i'll just press this, and you'll save on both. ding! ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, llllet's get ready to bundlllllle... 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>> the failure here is more than just an isolated or aberrant time, it involves the system itself, and it involves potential criminal wrongdoing. there's more than allegations, there's evidence. >> he is right, there is. and cnn has been reporting on it for months now. in phoenix, retired va physician, dr. sam foot, and other sources insist there is a secret wait list at this hospital, and administrators he alleges are covering it up. >> we heard as many as 40 veterans here in arizona in the phoenix area could have died waiting for care. >> that's correct. the number is actually higher. >> while the phoenix va was reporting timely appointments on its phony list, dr. foot says actual waits on the real waiting list could last months. >> when in reality it had been six, nine, some cases 12 months. >> for six months, cnn has been reporting on veterans dying, waiting for care. we tried to get an interview with eric shinseki and administrative staff. the secretary refused to respond to our request. the director of the phoenix va ducked us for weeks, until we finally tried to demand answers as she left work. >> director hellman, can you talk to us? >> off property, both of you. >> a day later, sharon helman denied a secret wait list, also denied knowing what the investigation was about. >> they don't tell us what the allegations are surrounding their investigation. i can just confirm yes, they were here. >> helman is on administrative leave. many on capitol hill are calling on president obama to put her boss on leave permanently. several senators and members of the house have called for the resignation of eric shinseki. try as we might, couldn't get him to answer questions until he appeared for reporters after the hearing. >> general, the delayed deaths have been well documented since 2011. the wait lists across the country well documented in oig and government accountability office reports for a decade. why has it taken this crisis in phoenix for the va and you specifically to act? >> well, we have certainly worked with the ig and gao. any time they come up with a report, we work to close out those actions. >> fred, eric shinseki is saying wait, wait for the investigations to be completed, but some senators are growing very impatient with that kind of attitude. they want action now to help the veterans that are waiting now. fred? >> all right, thanks so much, drew griffin on capitol hill. the american legion is calling for general shinseki's resignation. joining us now to talk about this, daniel dellinger. good to see you. so what you heard, i hope you can hear me, i did not hear you. okay. are you there? >> oh, yes, i am here. >> i hear you. very good. your impressions of general shinseki's testimony this week? >> well, we were looking for more. i mean, as a leader of the va, the secretary, cabinet level position, we expect him to step up like in the military. he was a great general and we were hoping the same thing at the va level. >> what did you want him to say, especially since we heard from drew's report, there have been problems for at least a decade. he hasn't had that job that long. is it more reflection of systemic problems as opposed to a problem with this va secretary? >> well, we were looking for accountability, for him to step up and say he has this well in hand and working towards a solution. but all we heard is he is going to start conducting audits. there have been as many as 50 ig inspections. he says he has been dealing with these as they go along, but still seeing the same problems. how many veterans have to die before action is taken? >> it is true that the investigations are on-going. would it be your view that the investigation should be completed before it is determined who should lose their job over it? >> well, i think there's been enough at this point, prior to phoenix. phoenix is just the last straw. this has been going on for a number of years, and they have evidence, but especially, for instance, pittsburgh, the outbreak in 2011, six veterans died, over 20 sickened, the director got a $63,000 bonus and promotion basically. so we're not seeing that accountability. we are not seeing that ability to fire when the instance is there. and -- >> that kind of speaks to and underscores the question is this a general shinseki problem or a systemic problem that is so engrained within the va system that there are problems and, you know, layer upon layer, that it means maybe a more sizable overhaul as opposed to just removal of the head of the agency? >> well, you have to look at accountability. accountability starts at the top. and would you think that the culture definitely has to change. no doubt about it. assessment has to be completed. but why does it take only when phoenix came about that now we're going to start getting that assessment? this should have been going on for four years, five years previous to this to improve, to ensure veterans get the best health care possible. >> here is general shinseki talking to reporters after his testimony this week. >> this is a robust system, a good portion of it works. and what we are focusing on is scheduling as an issue. >> and what do you interpret that to mean? >> i guess they're looking at it, but you know, they had this in the ig report previously. this isn't the first time. i mean, this goes back. we had deaths in florida, georgia, south carolina, pennsylvania, and all due to scheduling issues in the south. so this is something they should have been proactive instead of reactive on. >> has the american legion received complaints from veterans that they were running into obstacles like this, wait lists that seemed unbelievably long? had you ever heard of anything of this nature before drew griffin's report? >> yes, we have. >> what happened once you heard that, then what happened from there? >> well, actually we continue every day, we have boots on the ground, a system where we go into the hospital, have town hall meetings before we go in to each facility and do an assessment, then we come back, and that assessment every year is published and given to both congress -- >> did you see obstacles when you received the reports, went to members of congress, were there any results that came from your work or your observations? >> no, there really hasn't been. that's why we need to get better oversight, better accountability for the entire issue. >> all right. daniel dellinger, thanks so much. >> thank you very much for having me. donald sterling is digging in his heels. he doesn't want to leave the nba, but if he stays, do the players go? one of the best players in the nba is saying something about that next. hey. i'm ted and this is rudy. say "hi" rudy. 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[ speaking foreign language ] >> when they spray, you can tell. it is very strong. i couldn't work at all. >> reporter: they are tiny voices few have heard before. but in a new report from human rights watch, their revealing stories about working in the tobacco fields of america are now out in the open. in the 138 page report, nearly 150 children across four states were interviewed over several months last year. some as young as 7 years old, enduring 50 to 60 hour work weeks on tobacco farms, under dangerous, deplorable conditions, including exposure to nicotine and toxic pesticides. use of risky tools and machinery with limited use or no access to toilets and drinkable water. sam is just nine years old. >> there's no one to baby-sit me while my mom, my brother and sister are working. first went out into the fields, i didn't know what to do. we were in tobacco. i cut the weeds with a machete. >> reporter: most children of tobacco workers go to school full time. when classes are over, there are few restrictions to keep them out of the fields. extra hands to help put food on the table at home, but at an extreme cost. >> you feel nausea, your head starts hurting, you get a fever, and it's just the chemicals are really getting to you. you feel like you're going to die in there. >> reporter: one major tobacco company, altria, tells cnn they intend to work with other companies to discuss topics in the human rights watch report, saying it doesn't condone unlawful employment or exploitation of workers, including those under the age of 18. and although it may be a crime in the united states for children under 18 to buy cigarettes or other tobacco products, it is not illegal for minors to work on the tobacco farms of america. >> today i spoke to margaret wurth, leading researcher on the report, tobacco's hidden children. she wants congress to pass new laws to stop this kind of child labor. >> we are going to continue calling on congress to change labor law, and we're calling on u.s. regulatory agencies to establish regulations to get kids out of dangerous work. we want to see tobacco companies establish clear policies to keep kids out of dangerous work in farms on their supply chains. >> this week, one of the young men who grew up working in the tobacco fields in north carolina told his story on capitol hill. he was 11 years old when he started. i asked him what it was like working in the fields at such a young age. >> it was difficult at first. then when you do it for like me, i been doing it for 6 or 7 years already, i am used to it now, but it is really hard when you first get into it. >> what has been hard about it? >> well, the temperature, like it is really extreme. the temperature could be 98, then in the field like 105, 110 degrees in there. >> this kind of work made you sick, to what degree? >> yes, when the tractors, the owner sprays pesticide. can be spraying it beside us in the field we're in. we're exposed to the chemicals and stuff. so we inhale all that, and one time i got really dizzy and light headed, i thought i was going to faint right there. >> did you or any other children or workers ever say hey, that makes me sick, don't do that? >> well, like they're not going to listen to children, and the older people are afraid if they say something, they're going to get fired or something, so they don't do it. they keep silent and don't do nothing. >> now you have been talking to lawmakers. what have you been sharing with them, and what are you hoping will change? >> i will be telling my story, me and another girl, we share our story and stuff, and we're hoping to better the conditions for the children and to take children out of the field, because that is not a place for them to be in. it is hard and dangerous work. >> and what do you want to do when you are old enough, when you're older to work? 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embassies are expressing alarm. what, if anything, can be done? here to help answer some of the questions is a law professor robert george at princeton university. he is also chairman of the u.s. commission on international religious freedom. that is the u.s. government's bipartisan body that works to defend the universal right of religious freedom overseas. go to see you, professor. >> thank you, fredricka. good to be on the show. this is a very, very sad story. >> it really is. can any one or any other government really intervene here? >> well, all the governments of the world need to be speaking out and bringing pressure on the sudanese regime, a terrible violator of religious freedom and other human rights, but even regimes like the sudanese regime will respond to international pressure. the united states to its great credit has smoken o spoken out, the united nations, the united kingdom and they need to live up to commitments under various treaties and conventions to respect the religious freedom of its citizens. we need to join together in a chorus that will finally break the will of the sueddanese to carry out this murder, really is all it is. >> what would they be saying, and that what you're about to carry out is not in concert with sharia law? would would be the argument? especially since the government or the court has said that she is muslim, whereas she says, no, she's christian? >> yes. she was raised by a christian mother. her father was muslim. he left the family when she was 6 years old. she has never been anything but a contribution and she now refuses, as any good christian would, or any good religious person to renounce her faith, even under pressure from the state. what muslim nations should be saying is that all nations including the sudan, should live up to their own requirements, their own obligations under international law. treaties and conventions that sudan itself signed on to, and there's a religious argument as well, that should be made. muslims often point out rightly that the koran teaches there is no compulsion in religion. this is a case where compulsion is being exercised in the name of religion, to prevent this woman from speaking the truth about the bleeth beliefs in he that's not true faith. a forced faith cannot be a faith. no one should want that. no christian, no muslim, no jew, no member of any faith should want that. >> how worried are you about who is able to convey how she's doing? she's 8 months pregnant, and apparently the government says, one concession, they're willing to make, that if there are the lashings to be imposed on her it will come after the child's birth? >> well, that's cold comfort. of course, we care deeply about the child as well as the mother. there are two lives at stake here. that's very important to remember. now, they have said they will not carry out the death sentence until the baby is born, or even the lashings, but honestly, how can anyone in conscience imagine that the mother of a small child could be lashed? she has a child to take care of. the lashing is -- to do this to a young mother taking care of a young baby is an atrocity almost beyond belief. so we are very worried about her fate, even after the baby is born, and this is why -- why the whole world has to unite including religious leaders. i'd like to hear from religious leaders as well from around the globe calling on the sudanese to do the right thing here and live up to their own obligations under international las. i've repeatedly said. >> professor george, it is a very troubling and worrisome -- it's a horrible situation. >> yes. >> thank you so much for your time from princeton. >> thanks for calling it to the world's attention. curing cancer with a virus? 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