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the fbi, banks, the emmys, on his reality tv show, didn't win one, and even a chemistry test on which he once accused a classmate of cheating because he did better. and trump certainly has a long history of doing the same thing with judges, in particular. and the hush money case against him, he claimed that the judge there was biased because his daughter is a consultant for the democratic party. and it is 2018 border case, he called that judge loyal to obama. and in the trump university case, he claimed that the judge there was biased because of his, quote, mexican heritage. >> we're building a wall. he's a mexican. we're building a wall between here and mexico. the answer is he is giving us very unfair rulings. >> and by the way, that trudge is from indiana, not mexico. and tonight, to add to that list, the judge overseeing the federal election interference case as to the list, trump's lawyers demanding that judge tanya chutkan recuse herself over comments she's made about the january 6th insurrectionists. now, chutkan is one of the toughest punishers of those defendants. here are just some of the comments that trump's team is citing to make that claim. quote, the people that mob the capitol that were there in fealty, in loyalty to one man, not the constitution, it's blind loyalty to one person who, by the way, remains free to this day. and in another statement, she said that the people who encouraged and rallied rioters to go to the capitol have not been charged, adding that she has her own opinions, but they're not relevant to the case. and finally, when she rejected trump's attempts to block white house records over the attack, she said, quote, presidents are not kings, and the plaintiff's not president. let's discuss this in more with former manhattan district attorney cy vance. he began the investigation that led to donald trump's indictment related to a hush money payment to adult film star stormy daniels in 2016. cy is in studio here with us. thanks for joining us. you are obviously very familiar with trump's tactics of really the defense tactic here is usually delay. what do you make though of this particular filing by the trump team? >> with regard to the judge in d.c.? >> yeah. >> i think it will be rejected by the judge for good, sound, legal points. and i think it'll be sustained on any deal he may decide to take. >> it's interesting though for people at home, judge chutkan herself will be the one to decide whether she accuses herself -- recuse herself or not. how does that make sense if you are just layman? >> i think in almost any jurisdiction, a motion to disqualify a judges brought before that judge. that's just the way it works in the american system. the judge makes a ruling. some judges may say yes, i feel i have created an atmosphere in which i shouldn't participate going forward, and others will decide otherwise, depending on the facts. i don't, you know, from what i know i think the judge in d.c.'s had many cases in front of her. i don't think anything that she has said, at least that i am aware of, is disqualifying in terms of her bias or prejudice to the former president. so i think this is one of a number of attempts that we'll see from the trump defense in order to delay the case. >> well, let's talk about some of the statements that they're citing. we just referred to some of them there in the intro. she talks about blind loyalty to one person, who by the way, it remains free. that person is trump. she doesn't explicitly state here any particular view of this. she knows, factually, that he remains free. does that indicate a bias in your view? can they make that argument? >> well, they will make that argument. >> yeah. >> i do not think it will be sustained by either her own analysis, and i think the judge is a principled, smart, individual who will not want to create any ruling that would essentially be subject to reversal by the court of appeals. so, i think she will play it down the middle. my guess is she will say these are entirely appropriate comments by the judge making rulings unrelated cases, and in a way indicates that she has a predisposition against the former president when it comes to making the rulings a trial judge will have to make during the course of -- >> just to play devils advocate, if she has had a history of tough sentences against people committing offenses related to january 6th, could the trump team argue that that is a predisposition? >> no -- yes, they will argue everything. but this is whether or not it has a basis in law or not. but i think from everyone's experience in the criminal justice system, a judge may have a case, for example, with 20, 100 defendants. the judge may sentence some of those defendants to an extremely large amount of incarceration. but that doesn't mean that the judge then is biased towards other defendants who she has not yet had before her in times of a trial before her and adjudicating the case. so in just the last couple of days, trump has made some comments at his campaign rallies, as he does, really seem to rile up his supporters, suggesting that when he was president bring charges against his political opponents, he said that about president biden. listen to how california governor gavin newsom responded to what trump was doing. >> i've made the point about desantis that i think he's functionally authoritarian. i'm worried more in many respects about trumpism. i think the vengeance in donald trump's part right now is more of a threat. >> what do you think? do you agree? >> i think the statements that trump is making about the prosecutors, about the process, are, number one, ill-advised. he's making them irrespective of what i think they're ill-advised. but i think it creates an atmosphere against which judges will measure the impact of his statements as we go forward. so, i think they're ill-advised. two, i think they are wrong in terms of sort of how the lawyers representing him should permit, permit their clients to communicate about the case about which he's now got before this judge. three, i think it will be a point in time where trump crosses a line and says something that is either a direct, appears to be a direct threat against either the judge or the prosecutor in the case or against the system, in which a judge will pull the chain and pull them short. >> but they are really reluctant to do that because he's a candidate for the presidency. but you know the power that he has over his supporters. do you think that at some point in the next, call it a year or so, this will really come to a head and he will go too far and a judge will have to restrict his abilities? >> i think that is absolutely possible. and it's entirely within trump's hands and his counsel in terms of canceling how he communicates. he is a presidential candidate. the judge in d.c. has given every indication that she will permit him to speak as a candidate and will respect his first amendment rights to communication. but he has made historically comments which appear to be directly threatening to prosecutors in the case, the case of alvin bragg, and others. and at some point, a judge will say i warned you, i told you. and the question will be what will the sanction be? putting judge -- susan, putting former president trump in jail, i'm not sure that's a sanction that the judge will want to levy, because of just the froth nature of putting trump in jail -- but >> is it on the table? >> i think everything is on the table. and the judges, at the end of the day, of a very difficult job. there used to limit against playing by the rules. they're not used to lead against basically saying that i'm not only disregarding-year-olds, but i'm gonna go right in your face. and so, the judge is going to have to decide where they draw the line between first amendment issues and threats against the litigants or members of the jury or the prosecutors offices. and i'm sure that there are law clerks and judges in georgia, new york, and washington, d.c., talking about how do we manage what is essentially something we've never seen before. >> yeah, testing the system as usual. thank you cy vance for being here tonight. and take a look at downtown manhattan tonight. the tribute lights that mark 22 years since september 11. president biden played tribute in the state of alaska and his way home on an overseas trip, but he made a false claim giving that speech. -- new york, and i remember standing there the next day and looking at the building. and i felt like i was looking through the gates of hell. >> that's not true. biden was in washington the day after 9/11. he didn't visit ground zero till the 90s, days later. but being in alaska today, biden is breaking the tradition of presidents marking this particular day from attacks site. at least two of the republican candidates are denouncing that decision tonight. >> i was very disappointed with president joe biden, that he was not at ground zero or the pentagon. >> i think the american spirit always needs to take part, period. if you are in vietnam, that's not a democracy. you need to be in america, that is a democracy. you need to acknowledge something that happened that was horrific, not just as a reminder to americans, but as a tribute to those american families who lost loved ones. >> let's discuss this with journalist and former fox news host geraldo rivera. geraldo, thank you for being here. >> i, abby. my pleasure. >> what do you make of this criticism? president biden points out, or his team points out, it has been 22 years since 9/11 occurred. the first president to break the tradition is always good to be the first president to do it. do you think it's fair to criticize him for not being there? >> i do. as a native new yorker, abby, someone who has kids in grade school lost six other dads in the attacks, it's just something that will live forever but. you know, it's like a dark july 4th, 9/11 is something that's now part of the fabric of american life. and to treat it as if it was just another anniversary i think is really ill-advised. i deplore it. the emotion that people had when they saw the skyline today, the early minutes of the football game and the lights, it's just so emotional. the statue of liberty in new york harbor, and to treat that as if it's just a, you know, we went 22 years, i will come back in 25 years, i don't think it's appropriate. and then to -- >> well, let me -- >> and then to be befuddle about whether he was there or not, that's pretty alarming. >> let me ask you though, at what point do you think that this becomes like something like a pearl harbor, which is a another searing moment in american history, but one which is not marked every single year? >> well, i think that you make a good point. and i'm just answering in a very emotional way. i was born there. i spent most my life in new york city. i have three children and grand children in the city, or the boroughs. it's just something that i -- everyone that i know remembers precisely where they were, how they responded, what impact it had on their family lives. it's not just another anniversary. it is 9/11. it is something that started the war on terror. it distorted all of our lives. it changed everyone's life for the worst. it was something that it's, it's branded and the american psyche now. and to go and then to say i was there the next day when he wasn't there, you know, it's just -- i want to love the guy. i want to root for him. i don't want to criticism that he's lost his step, that he doesn't know what day it is or whatever it is, walk the wrong way on stages and so forth. i don't want this -- you know, he's only eight months older than i am. i don't want that to define him. and yet, he is being ill served by his staff. i know you want to talk also but immigration today. he's being ill serve an -- he is no policy. he's the problem. >> let's talk about that for a second, because it's a new yorker as well, i'm sure you are aware of what's unfolding here in the city with the migrant crisis. and former new york city mayor mike bloomberg weighed in a new york times op-ed, saying the biden illustration has failed to address the steep price many cities are paying for a system they did create, and the border cities don't control. is the biden administration, geraldo, in your view to blame, or is it really congress that is to blame for failing to address this issue? >> i think they are both criminally negligent, congress plus the white house. they know what the at least temporary solution to this awful crisis is. you know, i just want to parenthetically is say i have a niece, olivia. she got a new apartment in gramercy, gramercy park area. it's a very expensive for a 400 square foot apartment. she has to walk over venezuelan immigrants to get into her new apartment. you know, they make noise at night and so forth and so on. i am 100% pro immigrants and pro immigration's, immigration rights. but when you have a situation where, why are they on the sidewalk? why are they working? it would be the simplest thing for joe biden to sit down, write an executive order -- i understand that the asylum process is backlog up to seven or eight years. i understand that these people come, they ask for asylum, and then they wait seven or eight years. by then, they have children, they have roots, the rest of it. let them work now. why are they on the public dual? why are they staying in hotels? >> well, you know -- >> they won't work, it's vicious. >> it's a legitimate question, for sure. but let's take a step back here. because new york city now experiencing the migrant crisis is really a microcosm of what so many other cities have been dealing for so many years, and so many other immigrants have been dealing with. maybe they're waiting years for work permits. there are a lot of people in this country that are still waiting years in the legal immigration process for a work permit. what do you say to those individuals and their families who say that your daughter walking past venezuelan migrants is spearheading a process that wasn't available to them? i mean, it seems like all of a sudden this becomes an issue, because new york city is suddenly affected. >> i want the whole of the united states to have the same rule. if you have someone who ask for asylum and under our laws we want to be compassionate, and they understand now they're in a process that takes all the years, let them work. i don't care if they're in denver or chicago or miami or wherever they are, let them work. let them pay their own way. they want to. these are people who walk through the darién gap in central america, through columbia and panama. they walk through all of central america. they blocked the length and breadth of mexico to get here. they cross the rio grande. they are strong. they are ambitious. it's almost darwinian, these are exactly -- >> and look -- >> you can't go to a restaurant in new york without -- >> i think if you ask the biden ministration, i think they say we of course want congress to pass bills that allow people to get work permits. congress won't do that, in part, because the republicans refused to do that. i mean, it seems -- >> i say a pox on both of their houses. i don't care about all of these details. i know for a fact that president biden, with an executive order, could say i'm going to fingerprint you, i'm going to take your picture, i'm going to, you know, vet you to the extent i can. but that restaurant with the help wanted sign, you could go to work, you could wash dishes their. lawn maintenance, fast food restaurants, you know, out of the city, the poultry processing and the meatpacking, let them work, construction, let them work, let them pay their own way, get them off the streets, they don't want to be on the streets. >> can i -- >> they don't want to be in the fleabag hotel. they want to start a life. >> yeah, i mean, as you pointed out, they make this truly horrific journey here, not because they want to sit on the streets. i want to get you to respond to this though. here's what vivek ramaswamy, one of the republican candidates, has said recently about what he would do when it comes to the children of undocumented immigrants who were born here in the united states. >> the family unit will be deported. as a family unit, will never separated family. there are legally contested questions of the 14th amendment whether a child of a illegal immigrant is indeed a child who enjoys birthright citizenship or not. >> as i pointed out too -- >> well, he has not read the 14th amendment. >> well, we have it up there on the screen for folks to see it. they are citizens of the united states. and he himself is a beneficiary of the 14th amendment. but i think the broader point here is that he is saying this because it gets him purchase in the republican party. there is a market for this. >> well, there may be. and it may be pragmatic for him. but it makes me want to throw up in my mouth now -- and i look at this opportunistic, you know, i fill in the blank. i -- it makes me want to -- i cannot emphasize enough how hurtful that statement is, how ruthlessly pragmatic that statement, how appealing to the mob that statement is. these children born in this country, where the 14th amendment to the united states constitution is enshrined, it's part of all of our lives, these rights, these children are born here. whatever since their parents committed is on the parents. but the kids are -- they are americans as much as either of us or, abby. and i just think that he's too clever. he keeps reminding me of the chris christie quip in the first debate when he said he was like chatgpt. it's so programed to get the right wing vote in a case that trump falters or the second place on the republican ticket, it's so -- it's beneath the dignity of people running for public office should be. and i really, i really deplore it. the 14th amendment says that they are substance. they are citizens. unless and until you amend a constitution, which you can for three quarters of the states and so forth. >> and certainly, a president cannot do it unilaterally. geraldo rivera, thank you so much for joining us. >> they certainly can. thank you, abby, thanks very much. >> and up next, i'll speak live with the congresswoman who calls gavin newsom's promise to appoint a black woman to diane feinstein's seat insulting. plus, is it constitutional for a governor to suspend the ability to carry guns in public? even some democrats are calling her out for that. and a secret service agent from the jfk assassination now says he doubts the lone gunman theory. here why. and i will have to historians debate that claim. ♪ a a beach house, a treehouse, ♪ ♪ honestly y i don't care ♪ find the perfect vacation rental for you booking.com, booking. yeah. here's how tommy lost 30 lbs on noom weight. i'm tom. 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>> thank you abby for having me tonight and let me just say a couple of things. this is really about accountability, and i applaud the governor when he said that he wanted, to a point, if there were a vacancy of course there is not, but should vacancy occur, that he would appoint an african american woman without conditions, no strings attached. appointing, quite frankly, someone to hold a seat just until an election is conducted with the commitment not to run for the election is really, truly insulting. an african american woman, if appointed, should be able to make a decision. whether she wants to run or not she should not be constrained by being told that it was only as a caretaker. >> if i'm hearing you, you're saying here that the issue is that he would want this person to not desire to keep this state long term. but, i should probably ask you, do you want to be potentially considered for an appointment to the seat if it opens up? >> abby, listen, i am running to be the next senator of california. i actually filed my papers after senator feinstein announced that she was not running for reelection again. i am very focused on winning this election. the point is that, if the governor has an opportunity to make an appointment and in fact there is a vacancy, whomever he decides to appoint should not be prohibited from running for the seat. again, african american women deserve representation. representation matters and there is zero african american women in the senate. so i preclude unemployed woman, a black woman, from running. >> yeah, it's a fair point. i wonder, when gavin newsom had another opportunity after kamala harris left the senate to appoint a black woman to fill that seat and didn't take it, do you think that was a mistake? >> the governor made his own decision and he decided who he wanted to appoint. however, i think the critical point is we are talking about accountability. the governor indicated that he would, if a vacancy, another vacancy were to occur, that he would definitely appoint an african american woman. and that is the commitment he made. he understands diversity, he understands why representation matters and so, to be able to appoint to someone and then say to a black woman who has been the backbone of the democratic party, who has helped elect democrats all over this country, it is time that we have a seat at the table and to say that that black women would not be able to run for that office is really, again, it is insulting and, in fact, it says that a caretaker is all that would be necessary for the governor to appoint. >> for him to meet his commitment to black women, is that what you are saying? that is the extent of his commitment there? >> yes, i don't think he really means that because i think he understands that representation matters. but when you stepped up a barrier, and black women have to deal with barriers each and every day in the political arena. once you set up a barrier and say that this person cannot run, if in fact except this appointment, then you have really precluded full representation. i mean, african american women deserve a seat at the table. not for six months or three months or a year. >> all right, congresswoman barbara lee thank you so much for joining us on all this. >> thank you. >> it is one of the most intensely talked about events of our times. the assassination of jfk and now there is a secret service agent who is just feet away from the president on that day and he is sealing do questions about the lone gunman theory. we have to historians here now to debate it, coming up next. plus, an order from new mexico's governor that suspends carrying firearms than public as people on the right, but while some on the left, crying foul. ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ ( ♪ ) woah. 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>> well, landis's story really is another powerful blow against the official theory that one man killed the president for no reason. eyewitness account, somebody who is on the scene. let's not forget that the magic bullet theory was a week long before land is came along. three members of the warren commission did not believe it. three presidents did not believe it. president harry truman did not believe the lone gunman theory, president nixon questioned the cia about the who shot john angle, and president johnson the man who appointed the warren commission did not believe it's conclusions and had believed that kennedy was killed by his enemies. paul antis's account at a lot to that weight of evidence and it shows that president biden made a terrible mistake when he actually asked the cia pressure for continuing secrecy around thousands of jfk records. landis shows that this is an open question and we really need a much better explanation of what happened on november 22nd 1960. >> when you talk about the magic bullet theory, it is the idea that this same bullet struck both kennedy and connolly, basically in one foul swoop. fares, can you just weigh in here? what is your view on why, perhaps, this is wrong? >> well, it is wrong on a number of things. first of land is did not avail himself to facts or to actual documentation in records. i find it highly suspicious that somebody opines nearly 60 years after the fact when he could have provided this information to his supervisors and to the treasury department, the apparent agency over the secret service in 1963. he could have given himself the opportunity to explain the recovery of this evidence and what he did with it. now, the one thing that i keep going back, to this all boils down to location. it is location of where the bullet, is a little bullet of about three centimeters, and where this bullet was recovered. what this polluted, as far as locations of the body, the wounds that it caused, and what it inflicted into governor connally. the problem with all of this is that it does not change the basic fact that three shots were fired from the southeast corner of the texas school book depository. no other investigating agency has found that any of the wounds came from any other direction other than the southeast corner of the book depository using lee rv oswald's rival. given that, what we have is that we have a dispute by a person who has now stated 60 years after the fact that he was able to recover a couple of a bullet fragments on the seat of the car, but, yet, he chose not to put those in his pocket, but he chose to put a cigarette lighter in his pocket, jackie's purse, and the pill box hat, and then pick up a little three centimeter bullet on the back deck of the car. the problem with all of this is that he then inserts himself in a rome, trauma war room one, to place this bullet in a location, which he states, was near jfk's shoe. the problem with that is jfk wasn't wearing shoes. they did what is called a venus cut down on jfk, which means they actually stripped him of his clothes and his socks and his shoes, but he, accordingly states, that he placed this bullets next to jfk shoe. so i call and question, again, the location of where he is allegedly finding bullets, the location of where he is allegedly planting bullets, and why is the special agent of the united states secret service is he derelict in his duty to recover evidence and properly document accordingly? >> jefferson, i see wanting to weigh in. this is a central question. 60 years later, is his memory really something that we can base a pretty provocative theory like that on? >> his account cannot be confirmed. it is consistent with the evidence. mr. rockstool doesn't explain why even the people who were hit by bullets, the people in the car, don't believe the magic bullet theory. jackie kennedy didn't believe, it governor connally didn't believe it, and roy kellerman, the secret service man sitting in the front seat to said that we were hit by a flurry of bullets. okay. according to the official theory, they were struck by two bullets. so, the weight of the evidence shows that the president was hit by cross fire. the cia director, director of the cia himself john mccallum told that to bobby kennedy after he saw the supporter film of the assassination. so, landis's account may be open question on certain, point but it is consistent with the evidence and it compounds the severe doubts and credibility problems that the magic bullet theory has. and it points out that the cia is still keeping thousands of jfk records secret, which are related to the surveillance of lee harvey oswald before the assassination. so president biden did a terrible mistake and letting the cia keep this material secret. >> all right faris rockstool and jefferson morley, a fascinating discussion and debate between the two of you. thank you to you both. >> thank you. >> up next, new mexico's governor facing a lot of backlash after suspending the right carry firearms in public and that state. the top republican in the state now says that she is going after law-abiding citizens and he is my guest, next. plus, drew barry moore has restarted her talk show amid ongoing hollywood strikes and now she is drawing the ire of the writers guild. an audience member who says that he was kicked out of the taping supporting the wga joins me next. of retinol. are now for your whole body. plus, fast-working crepepe corrector didiminishes wrinkled skin in just two days. gold bond. champion y your skin. i just found the biggest weight loss hack for ya'll! ♪ the truth is there is no quick fix... ...but there is a more effective way to lose weig and it isn't what you think. it's actually noom. it's two times more effective than doing it on your own. get started right nowby ta. oh, oh, oh...i'll be the judge of that. oh, that's nice... oh!! searchable, verified reviews. that's better than the ham, and i've never said that. booking.com booking.yeah david: i'm david goldberg, a bilingual elementary school teacher and president of the california teachers association. as we start a new school year, there's something new happening in california's public schools. jessie: they're called community schools. david: where parents and families, students and educators are making decisions as one. damien: it's a real sense of community. leslie: we saw double-digit gains in math, in english, and reading scores. david: it's an innovation that's transforming our public schools. narrator: california's community schools: reimagining public education. new mexico governor is under fire tonight from both sides of the aisle for banning guns in public for 30 days. the new 30-day emergency order suspends open concealed carry laws in albuquerque and bernadine low county, on both the public and state properties. now, the governor announced the emergency order in light of recent string of shooting deaths involving children as well as two mass shootings that occurred earlier in the year. but number of republicans and even some democrats tonight are attacking, it saying that it is unconstitutional. for more on this i want to bring in gregory baecke, isa new mexico state senate minority floor leader. senator baecke, thank you for being here. you are among the ones who have said that this order is constitutional. he explained why this is the case? >> yes, thank you for having me tonight. we see her in our state, we have method in our state of changing the constitution if that is what is necessary, but what we have is our governor using a very broad approach of the public health order, which i feel like she became accustomed to during the epidemic to, essentially, come in and make a sweeping changes to second amendment rights for the citizens across really our biggest metropolitan area of county and state. >> some of your colleagues in the state senate are calling now for the governor's impeachment. do you support that? >> you know, at this point, the impeachment process would start in the house so it is yet to traverse that hurdle and come over to the senate. when we are faced with that we will certainly address it at that time, but we are looking at now and our focus is on a lawsuit that ourselves as well as house republicans are pursuing against the governor to issue a temporary extremely order and ultimately released against this illegal order that she has put in place. >> the governor says that this order is about curbing a spate of gun violence that mexico is experiencing. i should note that it is temporary, it is designed to last 30 days. you could liken it to a curfew that is imposed upon people, restricting their movement after a certain period of time. is it reasonable, in general, for a governor to take a temporary step like this, perhaps it give law enforcement an opportunity to get this issue under control? >> well, you know a couple of things there. the first being that we have had these promises in the past and we have some experience with these health orders and what happened here has happened in many places across the country, a temporary health order became a months and even years of restriction. i think that level of trust has been lost in this state with this governor, so there is that. the second point being that that breather for law enforcement, well, law enforcement in this state is staunchly in opposition to this. even in the metro area, under a democratic mayor and the sheriff of the county who is also democrat. both refused to enforce this health order, as well as the democrat va in the largest metro area, albuquerque here, he says he will not prosecute it because he himself feels like it is unconstitutional. >> and a number of national democrats as well have joined in, saying that while they support gun safety laws they do not support this particular measure. state senator gregory baca, thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you so much. >> breaking news, just in, there has been a confirmed sighting tonight in the man hunt for the convicted killer who escaped a pennsylvanian prison. standby, that is next. ♪ that first time you take a step back and see everything you've accomplished. i made that. with your very own online store. i sold that. and you can manage it all in one place. i built this. and it was easy with godaddy. i am doing this. with a partner that puts you first. start for free at godaddy.com/sell ♪ she runs and plays like a puppy again. his #2s are perfect! he's a brand new dog, all in less than a year. when people switch their dog's food from kibble to the farmer's dog, they often say that it feels like magic. but there's no magic involved. 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>> so we had one free tickets yesterday, a very last-minute sort of thing and we are walking into our check-in and were handed these little buttons right here in support of the writers strike. we were familiar with the wga strike as a whole, but not as familiar how it impacted drew barriers show. we were unaware that she was crossing the picket line by going on there, so we did not know that until we had been hand buttons and went inside. we sat down and were kind of like, oh should we leave? before we were able to make that decision for ourselves we were pulled off to the side and told that we had to leave, simply for having buttons. >> by a security person? >> yes. >> we reached out to the show and they said they had a statement that it is our policy to welcome everyone to our show tapings to the heightened security concerns today, we regret the to audience members were not permitted to attend or are not allowed access. drew is completely unaware of the incident and we are in the process of reaching out to the affected audience members to offer them new tickets. first of all, have they reached out to you? and if you were offered to take its where you go? >> they did reach out to cassidy via email, and they offered us to vip tickets to come back at any point, but we are not going to take the tickets. we don't really see any way that we can support the show after learning from the people striking how it affects them and the rioters. so we would just hope that drew and her team takes time to reconsider their decisions and how they can take responsibility and move forward to passport their rioters who are on the picket line. >> we were discussing, as we are sitting here together, that a lot of the other daytime talk shows are back in production, but drew's show is one of the ones that the wga says is effected by the strike. what does it say to you that she has made this decision to continue her show despite that? >> i was alluding today on the picket lines with the strikers that the rioters were actually out there as well and, if they're wga rioters are out on the picket line saying that you shouldn't be doing this and shouldn't be reserving the show, that says all it needs to say. she really does not care for the rioters and the team just moved on without them, which i think is very dishonourable in the face of a strike. >> dominic, thank you for joining us tonight and i hear you are new new yorker, so welcome to the city. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you. coming up next, we have some more on the breaking news that there has now been confirmed sighting tonight in that man hunt for the escaped inmate in pennsylvania. brian todd is on the scene. standby for that report. booking.com, booking.yeahh ♪ ♪ do you struggle with occasional nerve aches in your hands or feet? 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>> i was on one this morning, but it was much faster than that. >> nice to see you as always. everyone, good evening, i'm laura coates and welcome to cnn tonight. breaking news tonight, pennsylvania state police say they have confirmed now a sighting on this very night of the escaped killer, danelo cavalcante. a trooper telling cnn, quote, there has been a confirmed sighting tonight and it is still being investigated further. we've got a live report coming up. plus, the legal challenges coming fast and furious tonight as donald trump's team is battling the criminal charges against him on multiple fronts. and, in washington, he wants the federal judge, tanya chutkan, to recuse herself from the 2020 election subversion case. the one that it's brought, of course, by special counsel jack smith. he is arguing the public will not accept the outcome of the case if she doesn't recuse herself. meanwhile, in georgia, he's also asking the court to dismiss several criminal charges against him in that election interference case. let's not forget, tomorrow is th

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the fbi, banks, the emmys, on his reality tv show, didn't win one, and even a chemistry test on which he once accused a classmate of cheating because he did better. and trump certainly has a long history of doing the same thing with judges, in particular. and the hush money case against him, he claimed that the judge there was biased because his daughter is a consultant for the democratic party. and it is 2018 border case, he called that judge loyal to obama. and in the trump university case, he claimed that the judge there was biased because of his, quote, mexican heritage. >> we're building a wall. he's a mexican. we're building a wall between here and mexico. the answer is he is giving us very unfair rulings. >> and by the way, that trudge is from indiana, not mexico. and tonight, to add to that list, the judge overseeing the federal election interference case as to the list, trump's lawyers demanding that judge tanya chutkan recuse herself over comments she's made about the january 6th insurrectionists. now, chutkan is one of the toughest punishers of those defendants. here are just some of the comments that trump's team is citing to make that claim. quote, the people that mob the capitol that were there in fealty, in loyalty to one man, not the constitution, it's blind loyalty to one person who, by the way, remains free to this day. and in another statement, she said that the people who encouraged and rallied rioters to go to the capitol have not been charged, adding that she has her own opinions, but they're not relevant to the case. and finally, when she rejected trump's attempts to block white house records over the attack, she said, quote, presidents are not kings, and the plaintiff's not president. let's discuss this in more with former manhattan district attorney cy vance. he began the investigation that led to donald trump's indictment related to a hush money payment to adult film star stormy daniels in 2016. cy is in studio here with us. thanks for joining us. you are obviously very familiar with trump's tactics of really the defense tactic here is usually delay. what do you make though of this particular filing by the trump team? >> with regard to the judge in d.c.? >> yeah. >> i think it will be rejected by the judge for good, sound, legal points. and i think it'll be sustained on any deal he may decide to take. >> it's interesting though for people at home, judge chutkan herself will be the one to decide whether she accuses herself -- recuse herself or not. how does that make sense if you are just layman? >> i think in almost any jurisdiction, a motion to disqualify a judges brought before that judge. that's just the way it works in the american system. the judge makes a ruling. some judges may say yes, i feel i have created an atmosphere in which i shouldn't participate going forward, and others will decide otherwise, depending on the facts. i don't, you know, from what i know i think the judge in d.c.'s had many cases in front of her. i don't think anything that she has said, at least that i am aware of, is disqualifying in terms of her bias or prejudice to the former president. so i think this is one of a number of attempts that we'll see from the trump defense in order to delay the case. >> well, let's talk about some of the statements that they're citing. we just referred to some of them there in the intro. she talks about blind loyalty to one person, who by the way, it remains free. that person is trump. she doesn't explicitly state here any particular view of this. she knows, factually, that he remains free. does that indicate a bias in your view? can they make that argument? >> well, they will make that argument. >> yeah. >> i do not think it will be sustained by either her own analysis, and i think the judge is a principled, smart, individual who will not want to create any ruling that would essentially be subject to reversal by the court of appeals. so, i think she will play it down the middle. my guess is she will say these are entirely appropriate comments by the judge making rulings unrelated cases, and in a way indicates that she has a predisposition against the former president when it comes to making the rulings a trial judge will have to make during the course of -- >> just to play devils advocate, if she has had a history of tough sentences against people committing offenses related to january 6th, could the trump team argue that that is a predisposition? >> no -- yes, they will argue everything. but this is whether or not it has a basis in law or not. but i think from everyone's experience in the criminal justice system, a judge may have a case, for example, with 20, 100 defendants. the judge may sentence some of those defendants to an extremely large amount of incarceration. but that doesn't mean that the judge then is biased towards other defendants who she has not yet had before her in times of a trial before her and adjudicating the case. so in just the last couple of days, trump has made some comments at his campaign rallies, as he does, really seem to rile up his supporters, suggesting that when he was president bring charges against his political opponents, he said that about president biden. listen to how california governor gavin newsom responded to what trump was doing. >> i've made the point about desantis that i think he's functionally authoritarian. i'm worried more in many respects about trumpism. i think the vengeance in donald trump's part right now is more of a threat. >> what do you think? do you agree? >> i think the statements that trump is making about the prosecutors, about the process, are, number one, ill-advised. he's making them irrespective of what i think they're ill-advised. but i think it creates an atmosphere against which judges will measure the impact of his statements as we go forward. so, i think they're ill-advised. two, i think they are wrong in terms of sort of how the lawyers representing him should permit, permit their clients to communicate about the case about which he's now got before this judge. three, i think it will be a point in time where trump crosses a line and says something that is either a direct, appears to be a direct threat against either the judge or the prosecutor in the case or against the system, in which a judge will pull the chain and pull them short. >> but they are really reluctant to do that because he's a candidate for the presidency. but you know the power that he has over his supporters. do you think that at some point in the next, call it a year or so, this will really come to a head and he will go too far and a judge will have to restrict his abilities? >> i think that is absolutely possible. and it's entirely within trump's hands and his counsel in terms of canceling how he communicates. he is a presidential candidate. the judge in d.c. has given every indication that she will permit him to speak as a candidate and will respect his first amendment rights to communication. but he has made historically comments which appear to be directly threatening to prosecutors in the case, the case of alvin bragg, and others. and at some point, a judge will say i warned you, i told you. and the question will be what will the sanction be? putting judge -- susan, putting former president trump in jail, i'm not sure that's a sanction that the judge will want to levy, because of just the froth nature of putting trump in jail -- but >> is it on the table? >> i think everything is on the table. and the judges, at the end of the day, of a very difficult job. there used to limit against playing by the rules. they're not used to lead against basically saying that i'm not only disregarding-year-olds, but i'm gonna go right in your face. and so, the judge is going to have to decide where they draw the line between first amendment issues and threats against the litigants or members of the jury or the prosecutors offices. and i'm sure that there are law clerks and judges in georgia, new york, and washington, d.c., talking about how do we manage what is essentially something we've never seen before. >> yeah, testing the system as usual. thank you cy vance for being here tonight. and take a look at downtown manhattan tonight. the tribute lights that mark 22 years since september 11. president biden played tribute in the state of alaska and his way home on an overseas trip, but he made a false claim giving that speech. -- new york, and i remember standing there the next day and looking at the building. and i felt like i was looking through the gates of hell. >> that's not true. biden was in washington the day after 9/11. he didn't visit ground zero till the 90s, days later. but being in alaska today, biden is breaking the tradition of presidents marking this particular day from attacks site. at least two of the republican candidates are denouncing that decision tonight. >> i was very disappointed with president joe biden, that he was not at ground zero or the pentagon. >> i think the american spirit always needs to take part, period. if you are in vietnam, that's not a democracy. you need to be in america, that is a democracy. you need to acknowledge something that happened that was horrific, not just as a reminder to americans, but as a tribute to those american families who lost loved ones. >> let's discuss this with journalist and former fox news host geraldo rivera. geraldo, thank you for being here. >> i, abby. my pleasure. >> what do you make of this criticism? president biden points out, or his team points out, it has been 22 years since 9/11 occurred. the first president to break the tradition is always good to be the first president to do it. do you think it's fair to criticize him for not being there? >> i do. as a native new yorker, abby, someone who has kids in grade school lost six other dads in the attacks, it's just something that will live forever but. you know, it's like a dark july 4th, 9/11 is something that's now part of the fabric of american life. and to treat it as if it was just another anniversary i think is really ill-advised. i deplore it. the emotion that people had when they saw the skyline today, the early minutes of the football game and the lights, it's just so emotional. the statue of liberty in new york harbor, and to treat that as if it's just a, you know, we went 22 years, i will come back in 25 years, i don't think it's appropriate. and then to -- >> well, let me -- >> and then to be befuddle about whether he was there or not, that's pretty alarming. >> let me ask you though, at what point do you think that this becomes like something like a pearl harbor, which is a another searing moment in american history, but one which is not marked every single year? >> well, i think that you make a good point. and i'm just answering in a very emotional way. i was born there. i spent most my life in new york city. i have three children and grand children in the city, or the boroughs. it's just something that i -- everyone that i know remembers precisely where they were, how they responded, what impact it had on their family lives. it's not just another anniversary. it is 9/11. it is something that started the war on terror. it distorted all of our lives. it changed everyone's life for the worst. it was something that it's, it's branded and the american psyche now. and to go and then to say i was there the next day when he wasn't there, you know, it's just -- i want to love the guy. i want to root for him. i don't want to criticism that he's lost his step, that he doesn't know what day it is or whatever it is, walk the wrong way on stages and so forth. i don't want this -- you know, he's only eight months older than i am. i don't want that to define him. and yet, he is being ill served by his staff. i know you want to talk also but immigration today. he's being ill serve an -- he is no policy. he's the problem. >> let's talk about that for a second, because it's a new yorker as well, i'm sure you are aware of what's unfolding here in the city with the migrant crisis. and former new york city mayor mike bloomberg weighed in a new york times op-ed, saying the biden illustration has failed to address the steep price many cities are paying for a system they did create, and the border cities don't control. is the biden administration, geraldo, in your view to blame, or is it really congress that is to blame for failing to address this issue? >> i think they are both criminally negligent, congress plus the white house. they know what the at least temporary solution to this awful crisis is. you know, i just want to parenthetically is say i have a niece, olivia. she got a new apartment in gramercy, gramercy park area. it's a very expensive for a 400 square foot apartment. she has to walk over venezuelan immigrants to get into her new apartment. you know, they make noise at night and so forth and so on. i am 100% pro immigrants and pro immigration's, immigration rights. but when you have a situation where, why are they on the sidewalk? why are they working? it would be the simplest thing for joe biden to sit down, write an executive order -- i understand that the asylum process is backlog up to seven or eight years. i understand that these people come, they ask for asylum, and then they wait seven or eight years. by then, they have children, they have roots, the rest of it. let them work now. why are they on the public dual? why are they staying in hotels? >> well, you know -- >> they won't work, it's vicious. >> it's a legitimate question, for sure. but let's take a step back here. because new york city now experiencing the migrant crisis is really a microcosm of what so many other cities have been dealing for so many years, and so many other immigrants have been dealing with. maybe they're waiting years for work permits. there are a lot of people in this country that are still waiting years in the legal immigration process for a work permit. what do you say to those individuals and their families who say that your daughter walking past venezuelan migrants is spearheading a process that wasn't available to them? i mean, it seems like all of a sudden this becomes an issue, because new york city is suddenly affected. >> i want the whole of the united states to have the same rule. if you have someone who ask for asylum and under our laws we want to be compassionate, and they understand now they're in a process that takes all the years, let them work. i don't care if they're in denver or chicago or miami or wherever they are, let them work. let them pay their own way. they want to. these are people who walk through the darién gap in central america, through columbia and panama. they walk through all of central america. they blocked the length and breadth of mexico to get here. they cross the rio grande. they are strong. they are ambitious. it's almost darwinian, these are exactly -- >> and look -- >> you can't go to a restaurant in new york without -- >> i think if you ask the biden ministration, i think they say we of course want congress to pass bills that allow people to get work permits. congress won't do that, in part, because the republicans refused to do that. i mean, it seems -- >> i say a pox on both of their houses. i don't care about all of these details. i know for a fact that president biden, with an executive order, could say i'm going to fingerprint you, i'm going to take your picture, i'm going to, you know, vet you to the extent i can. but that restaurant with the help wanted sign, you could go to work, you could wash dishes their. lawn maintenance, fast food restaurants, you know, out of the city, the poultry processing and the meatpacking, let them work, construction, let them work, let them pay their own way, get them off the streets, they don't want to be on the streets. >> can i -- >> they don't want to be in the fleabag hotel. they want to start a life. >> yeah, i mean, as you pointed out, they make this truly horrific journey here, not because they want to sit on the streets. i want to get you to respond to this though. here's what vivek ramaswamy, one of the republican candidates, has said recently about what he would do when it comes to the children of undocumented immigrants who were born here in the united states. >> the family unit will be deported. as a family unit, will never separated family. there are legally contested questions of the 14th amendment whether a child of a illegal immigrant is indeed a child who enjoys birthright citizenship or not. >> as i pointed out too -- >> well, he has not read the 14th amendment. >> well, we have it up there on the screen for folks to see it. they are citizens of the united states. and he himself is a beneficiary of the 14th amendment. but i think the broader point here is that he is saying this because it gets him purchase in the republican party. there is a market for this. >> well, there may be. and it may be pragmatic for him. but it makes me want to throw up in my mouth now -- and i look at this opportunistic, you know, i fill in the blank. i -- it makes me want to -- i cannot emphasize enough how hurtful that statement is, how ruthlessly pragmatic that statement, how appealing to the mob that statement is. these children born in this country, where the 14th amendment to the united states constitution is enshrined, it's part of all of our lives, these rights, these children are born here. whatever since their parents committed is on the parents. but the kids are -- they are americans as much as either of us or, abby. and i just think that he's too clever. he keeps reminding me of the chris christie quip in the first debate when he said he was like chatgpt. it's so programed to get the right wing vote in a case that trump falters or the second place on the republican ticket, it's so -- it's beneath the dignity of people running for public office should be. and i really, i really deplore it. the 14th amendment says that they are substance. they are citizens. unless and until you amend a constitution, which you can for three quarters of the states and so forth. >> and certainly, a president cannot do it unilaterally. geraldo rivera, thank you so much for joining us. >> they certainly can. thank you, abby, thanks very much. >> and up next, i'll speak live with the congresswoman who calls gavin newsom's promise to appoint a black woman to diane feinstein's seat insulting. plus, is it constitutional for a governor to suspend the ability to carry guns in public? even some democrats are calling her out for that. and a secret service agent from the jfk assassination now says he doubts the lone gunman theory. here why. and i will have to historians debate that claim. ♪ a a beach house, a treehouse, ♪ ♪ honestly y i don't care ♪ find the perfect vacation rental for you booking.com, booking. yeah. here's how tommy lost 30 lbs on noom weight. i'm tom. 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>> thank you abby for having me tonight and let me just say a couple of things. this is really about accountability, and i applaud the governor when he said that he wanted, to a point, if there were a vacancy of course there is not, but should vacancy occur, that he would appoint an african american woman without conditions, no strings attached. appointing, quite frankly, someone to hold a seat just until an election is conducted with the commitment not to run for the election is really, truly insulting. an african american woman, if appointed, should be able to make a decision. whether she wants to run or not she should not be constrained by being told that it was only as a caretaker. >> if i'm hearing you, you're saying here that the issue is that he would want this person to not desire to keep this state long term. but, i should probably ask you, do you want to be potentially considered for an appointment to the seat if it opens up? >> abby, listen, i am running to be the next senator of california. i actually filed my papers after senator feinstein announced that she was not running for reelection again. i am very focused on winning this election. the point is that, if the governor has an opportunity to make an appointment and in fact there is a vacancy, whomever he decides to appoint should not be prohibited from running for the seat. again, african american women deserve representation. representation matters and there is zero african american women in the senate. so i preclude unemployed woman, a black woman, from running. >> yeah, it's a fair point. i wonder, when gavin newsom had another opportunity after kamala harris left the senate to appoint a black woman to fill that seat and didn't take it, do you think that was a mistake? >> the governor made his own decision and he decided who he wanted to appoint. however, i think the critical point is we are talking about accountability. the governor indicated that he would, if a vacancy, another vacancy were to occur, that he would definitely appoint an african american woman. and that is the commitment he made. he understands diversity, he understands why representation matters and so, to be able to appoint to someone and then say to a black woman who has been the backbone of the democratic party, who has helped elect democrats all over this country, it is time that we have a seat at the table and to say that that black women would not be able to run for that office is really, again, it is insulting and, in fact, it says that a caretaker is all that would be necessary for the governor to appoint. >> for him to meet his commitment to black women, is that what you are saying? that is the extent of his commitment there? >> yes, i don't think he really means that because i think he understands that representation matters. but when you stepped up a barrier, and black women have to deal with barriers each and every day in the political arena. once you set up a barrier and say that this person cannot run, if in fact except this appointment, then you have really precluded full representation. i mean, african american women deserve a seat at the table. not for six months or three months or a year. >> all right, congresswoman barbara lee thank you so much for joining us on all this. >> thank you. >> it is one of the most intensely talked about events of our times. the assassination of jfk and now there is a secret service agent who is just feet away from the president on that day and he is sealing do questions about the lone gunman theory. we have to historians here now to debate it, coming up next. plus, an order from new mexico's governor that suspends carrying firearms than public as people on the right, but while some on the left, crying foul. ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ ( ♪ ) woah. 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>> well, landis's story really is another powerful blow against the official theory that one man killed the president for no reason. eyewitness account, somebody who is on the scene. let's not forget that the magic bullet theory was a week long before land is came along. three members of the warren commission did not believe it. three presidents did not believe it. president harry truman did not believe the lone gunman theory, president nixon questioned the cia about the who shot john angle, and president johnson the man who appointed the warren commission did not believe it's conclusions and had believed that kennedy was killed by his enemies. paul antis's account at a lot to that weight of evidence and it shows that president biden made a terrible mistake when he actually asked the cia pressure for continuing secrecy around thousands of jfk records. landis shows that this is an open question and we really need a much better explanation of what happened on november 22nd 1960. >> when you talk about the magic bullet theory, it is the idea that this same bullet struck both kennedy and connolly, basically in one foul swoop. fares, can you just weigh in here? what is your view on why, perhaps, this is wrong? >> well, it is wrong on a number of things. first of land is did not avail himself to facts or to actual documentation in records. i find it highly suspicious that somebody opines nearly 60 years after the fact when he could have provided this information to his supervisors and to the treasury department, the apparent agency over the secret service in 1963. he could have given himself the opportunity to explain the recovery of this evidence and what he did with it. now, the one thing that i keep going back, to this all boils down to location. it is location of where the bullet, is a little bullet of about three centimeters, and where this bullet was recovered. what this polluted, as far as locations of the body, the wounds that it caused, and what it inflicted into governor connally. the problem with all of this is that it does not change the basic fact that three shots were fired from the southeast corner of the texas school book depository. no other investigating agency has found that any of the wounds came from any other direction other than the southeast corner of the book depository using lee rv oswald's rival. given that, what we have is that we have a dispute by a person who has now stated 60 years after the fact that he was able to recover a couple of a bullet fragments on the seat of the car, but, yet, he chose not to put those in his pocket, but he chose to put a cigarette lighter in his pocket, jackie's purse, and the pill box hat, and then pick up a little three centimeter bullet on the back deck of the car. the problem with all of this is that he then inserts himself in a rome, trauma war room one, to place this bullet in a location, which he states, was near jfk's shoe. the problem with that is jfk wasn't wearing shoes. they did what is called a venus cut down on jfk, which means they actually stripped him of his clothes and his socks and his shoes, but he, accordingly states, that he placed this bullets next to jfk shoe. so i call and question, again, the location of where he is allegedly finding bullets, the location of where he is allegedly planting bullets, and why is the special agent of the united states secret service is he derelict in his duty to recover evidence and properly document accordingly? >> jefferson, i see wanting to weigh in. this is a central question. 60 years later, is his memory really something that we can base a pretty provocative theory like that on? >> his account cannot be confirmed. it is consistent with the evidence. mr. rockstool doesn't explain why even the people who were hit by bullets, the people in the car, don't believe the magic bullet theory. jackie kennedy didn't believe, it governor connally didn't believe it, and roy kellerman, the secret service man sitting in the front seat to said that we were hit by a flurry of bullets. okay. according to the official theory, they were struck by two bullets. so, the weight of the evidence shows that the president was hit by cross fire. the cia director, director of the cia himself john mccallum told that to bobby kennedy after he saw the supporter film of the assassination. so, landis's account may be open question on certain, point but it is consistent with the evidence and it compounds the severe doubts and credibility problems that the magic bullet theory has. and it points out that the cia is still keeping thousands of jfk records secret, which are related to the surveillance of lee harvey oswald before the assassination. so president biden did a terrible mistake and letting the cia keep this material secret. >> all right faris rockstool and jefferson morley, a fascinating discussion and debate between the two of you. thank you to you both. >> thank you. >> up next, new mexico's governor facing a lot of backlash after suspending the right carry firearms in public and that state. the top republican in the state now says that she is going after law-abiding citizens and he is my guest, next. plus, drew barry moore has restarted her talk show amid ongoing hollywood strikes and now she is drawing the ire of the writers guild. an audience member who says that he was kicked out of the taping supporting the wga joins me next. of retinol. are now for your whole body. plus, fast-working crepepe corrector didiminishes wrinkled skin in just two days. gold bond. champion y your skin. i just found the biggest weight loss hack for ya'll! ♪ the truth is there is no quick fix... ...but there is a more effective way to lose weig and it isn't what you think. it's actually noom. it's two times more effective than doing it on your own. get started right nowby ta. oh, oh, oh...i'll be the judge of that. oh, that's nice... oh!! searchable, verified reviews. that's better than the ham, and i've never said that. booking.com booking.yeah david: i'm david goldberg, a bilingual elementary school teacher and president of the california teachers association. as we start a new school year, there's something new happening in california's public schools. jessie: they're called community schools. david: where parents and families, students and educators are making decisions as one. damien: it's a real sense of community. leslie: we saw double-digit gains in math, in english, and reading scores. david: it's an innovation that's transforming our public schools. narrator: california's community schools: reimagining public education. new mexico governor is under fire tonight from both sides of the aisle for banning guns in public for 30 days. the new 30-day emergency order suspends open concealed carry laws in albuquerque and bernadine low county, on both the public and state properties. now, the governor announced the emergency order in light of recent string of shooting deaths involving children as well as two mass shootings that occurred earlier in the year. but number of republicans and even some democrats tonight are attacking, it saying that it is unconstitutional. for more on this i want to bring in gregory baecke, isa new mexico state senate minority floor leader. senator baecke, thank you for being here. you are among the ones who have said that this order is constitutional. he explained why this is the case? >> yes, thank you for having me tonight. we see her in our state, we have method in our state of changing the constitution if that is what is necessary, but what we have is our governor using a very broad approach of the public health order, which i feel like she became accustomed to during the epidemic to, essentially, come in and make a sweeping changes to second amendment rights for the citizens across really our biggest metropolitan area of county and state. >> some of your colleagues in the state senate are calling now for the governor's impeachment. do you support that? >> you know, at this point, the impeachment process would start in the house so it is yet to traverse that hurdle and come over to the senate. when we are faced with that we will certainly address it at that time, but we are looking at now and our focus is on a lawsuit that ourselves as well as house republicans are pursuing against the governor to issue a temporary extremely order and ultimately released against this illegal order that she has put in place. >> the governor says that this order is about curbing a spate of gun violence that mexico is experiencing. i should note that it is temporary, it is designed to last 30 days. you could liken it to a curfew that is imposed upon people, restricting their movement after a certain period of time. is it reasonable, in general, for a governor to take a temporary step like this, perhaps it give law enforcement an opportunity to get this issue under control? >> well, you know a couple of things there. the first being that we have had these promises in the past and we have some experience with these health orders and what happened here has happened in many places across the country, a temporary health order became a months and even years of restriction. i think that level of trust has been lost in this state with this governor, so there is that. the second point being that that breather for law enforcement, well, law enforcement in this state is staunchly in opposition to this. even in the metro area, under a democratic mayor and the sheriff of the county who is also democrat. both refused to enforce this health order, as well as the democrat va in the largest metro area, albuquerque here, he says he will not prosecute it because he himself feels like it is unconstitutional. >> and a number of national democrats as well have joined in, saying that while they support gun safety laws they do not support this particular measure. state senator gregory baca, thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you so much. >> breaking news, just in, there has been a confirmed sighting tonight in the man hunt for the convicted killer who escaped a pennsylvanian prison. standby, that is next. ♪ that first time you take a step back and see everything you've accomplished. i made that. with your very own online store. i sold that. and you can manage it all in one place. i built this. and it was easy with godaddy. i am doing this. with a partner that puts you first. start for free at godaddy.com/sell ♪ she runs and plays like a puppy again. his #2s are perfect! he's a brand new dog, all in less than a year. when people switch their dog's food from kibble to the farmer's dog, they often say that it feels like magic. but there's no magic involved. 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>> so we had one free tickets yesterday, a very last-minute sort of thing and we are walking into our check-in and were handed these little buttons right here in support of the writers strike. we were familiar with the wga strike as a whole, but not as familiar how it impacted drew barriers show. we were unaware that she was crossing the picket line by going on there, so we did not know that until we had been hand buttons and went inside. we sat down and were kind of like, oh should we leave? before we were able to make that decision for ourselves we were pulled off to the side and told that we had to leave, simply for having buttons. >> by a security person? >> yes. >> we reached out to the show and they said they had a statement that it is our policy to welcome everyone to our show tapings to the heightened security concerns today, we regret the to audience members were not permitted to attend or are not allowed access. drew is completely unaware of the incident and we are in the process of reaching out to the affected audience members to offer them new tickets. first of all, have they reached out to you? and if you were offered to take its where you go? >> they did reach out to cassidy via email, and they offered us to vip tickets to come back at any point, but we are not going to take the tickets. we don't really see any way that we can support the show after learning from the people striking how it affects them and the rioters. so we would just hope that drew and her team takes time to reconsider their decisions and how they can take responsibility and move forward to passport their rioters who are on the picket line. >> we were discussing, as we are sitting here together, that a lot of the other daytime talk shows are back in production, but drew's show is one of the ones that the wga says is effected by the strike. what does it say to you that she has made this decision to continue her show despite that? >> i was alluding today on the picket lines with the strikers that the rioters were actually out there as well and, if they're wga rioters are out on the picket line saying that you shouldn't be doing this and shouldn't be reserving the show, that says all it needs to say. she really does not care for the rioters and the team just moved on without them, which i think is very dishonourable in the face of a strike. >> dominic, thank you for joining us tonight and i hear you are new new yorker, so welcome to the city. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you. coming up next, we have some more on the breaking news that there has now been confirmed sighting tonight in that man hunt for the escaped inmate in pennsylvania. brian todd is on the scene. standby for that report. booking.com, booking.yeahh ♪ ♪ do you struggle with occasional nerve aches in your hands or feet? 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>> i was on one this morning, but it was much faster than that. >> nice to see you as always. everyone, good evening, i'm laura coates and welcome to cnn tonight. breaking news tonight, pennsylvania state police say they have confirmed now a sighting on this very night of the escaped killer, danelo cavalcante. a trooper telling cnn, quote, there has been a confirmed sighting tonight and it is still being investigated further. we've got a live report coming up. plus, the legal challenges coming fast and furious tonight as donald trump's team is battling the criminal charges against him on multiple fronts. and, in washington, he wants the federal judge, tanya chutkan, to recuse herself from the 2020 election subversion case. the one that it's brought, of course, by special counsel jack smith. he is arguing the public will not accept the outcome of the case if she doesn't recuse herself. meanwhile, in georgia, he's also asking the court to dismiss several criminal charges against him in that election interference case. let's not forget, tomorrow is th

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