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yeah. last night at the press conference was the first time that president biden weight in publicly about his son, hunter's conviction on those three felony gun charges after the verdict came down? >> stood by his son. he stood by the judicial system as well, and then he reiterated his previously stated position on question of pardoning his son. here's what he said i am satisfied that i'm not going to do anything. >> i said i'd abide by the jury decision. i will do that. and i will not pardon him and i should note, sara white house officials definitely success suspected that the president would be getting questions at some point about his son, given that it just happened three days ago, he hadn't i talked about it publicly yet. >> i'm particularly on the issue of the commutation because the previous day white house press secretary karine jean-pierre, have been asked about this issue and she wouldn't rule it out. she wouldn't say yes or no. the president would or wouldn't commute his son's sentence since then that in and of itself had taken on a life of its own. and the white house knew that the president, i had a very good chance of being asked about that. i will just quickly note the first lady, jill biden, is not traveling with the president on this trip, but several of his grandchildren have joined him on this trip. and actually some of them were sitting in the front front row at that press conference last night, right? >> mj lee. thank you so much for all your reporting, their and bari italy. >> take donald trump kicked off his 78th birthday celebrations surrounded by some of his staunch supporters returning to capitol hill for the first time since the insurrection, trump met with house and senate republicans and it appeared to be a love fest, likely by design, even a friendly reunion with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, one question now, this morning is, who in we're going to show you in this video potentially could be his running mate during an interview, donald trump teased that his vp was probably in the room during these meetings. let's get over to cnn's alayna treene. she's got much more on this. what does donald trump saying? what are you learning about this? >> well, first of all, just about your birthday comment, not only did they give him a early birthday present by giving him that warm reception that he was craving with that visit to dc. they also literally saying him happy birthday during the house republican meeting yesterday. and we know he's going to have another big celebration today at mar-a-lago as part of that trump 47 committee event. but luck. >> you're exactly right. there's a very good chance that who donald trump ultimately picks as his running mate was in one of the rooms, one of the meetings yesterday with house and senate republicans and really the majority of people under consideration are our lawmakers. you can see it here on the screen now, that includes a senator's j.d. vance, senator tim scott marco rubio, as well as congressmen elise stefanik and byron donalds. and so very well, there could be someone who was in that room yesterday, who is donald trump's potential vice president and donald trump himself address this last night when he was asked this question can take a listen to his response was you're pick for vp in that room with you probably hear i don't want to go, but probably i think we'll probably announced it during the convention. >> do you know who your vps i have sort of a good idea to really talented people now, okay, luck. it's always hard to predict who a presidential candidates running mate will be. it's even harder to predict with donald trump. and when i talked to his advisers, they tell me that even now his decision is still in flux and this is donald trump. we are talking about so really until this is formally announced, he could still change his mind. so keep that in mind as we have these conversations about who potentially might be at the top of his list absolutely. >> speaking of convention and milwaukee what is donald trump saying about that city? >> well, we were lucky enough. so this was a closed-door meeting with lawmakers yesterday, both the house and senate meetings, i should say were closed doors and our great angel reporters got some inside the room reporting and one of that one of those instances was donald trump's said, i'm going to quote what we have from our sources that mu1 bucky was a horrible city. he said milwaukee, where we are having our convention is a horrible city. now, according to our sources as well, he was talking about that in the context of it being rife with crime. i did have a trump adviser texted me as this was all playing out in real time and said that the coverage of this was quote, bs but luck, i think part of this was they recognized it was a closed-door meeting. i'm not sure how much donald trump expected some of this to leak out but at the same time, this is a core issue for donald trump. he wants to run on crime. he wants to talk about crime, but it's not exactly a good luck to be using that the language and rhetoric around the city where your party is hosting its convention. now, we did actually hear from the democratic mayor of milwaukee he told laura coats, are laura coates last night, that he thinks this comment could make a difference in how voters are deciding. >> we also saw the democrats really jump on this immediately. >> the dnc is planning to put up billboards around milwaukee this weekend with donald trump's quote, calling the city horrible. and so i think this is just another moment where donald trump, he will say things, particularly and private and people will be able to run with them after the fact. but this again, i do want to stress that campaign and the republicans in the room yesterday said that this was in the context of crime. and so take without what you will yeah. and so begins the show begins the resurgence of the trend of then republicans outside of this meeting and eating too quick context are clean up what donald trump is saying and privates elena, thank you so much alright, so we're going to speak to the point that elaine was talking about off the top about donald trump's vp hopefuls, one of those contenders, if you will, is going to be joining us a little later in the show still ahead for us, the supreme court rejected an effort to restrict access to the abortion pill, but the high court could also hand down their decision on another critical abortion cases soon as today. plus, isis isn't done with us. the new warnings from us officials after the arrest of eight foreign nationals with suspected ties to the terror group and tense moments at a chris brown concert, the singer or the performers seeing left dangling from the ceiling. >> we'll have more on that ahead devastating and sudden power of tsunamis. it happened in faraway lands and it's easy to think it can't happen here if one hits home be ready silent birth would liev schreiber sunday at night and on cnn were trying to save the planet with nuggets because we need the planet and we also need nuggets impossible. >> we're solving the meat problem with more meat at morgan stanley old old-school hard work. >> meets ball new thinking to help you see untapped possibilities and relentlessly work with you to make them real with cascade platinum plus, i have up my dish getting in that dishwasher, watching planter plus gives you the highest standard of clean even in your machine. clean enough for you? 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>> well, this was a kind of conclave of comedians in the vatican with the big big-name stars from all over the world meeting the popi. >> what francis was trying to do is emphasize the importance of a sense of humor and the important work of comedians today. >> he said to them in the midst of so much gloomy cuz you have the power to spread peace and smiles. as you mentioned, he praised for a good sense of humor each day it's something that's very important to him. the popi himself likes to crack jokes. he said to the comedians, please pray for me not against me and he was laughing with them at the end of the meeting we'll be goldberg. you mentioned was there she apparently has offered the popi a cameo in sister act three. the pope, apparently no sister act, will be go back afterwards saying that she's going to email the pope to follow up on the request okay. >> i'm listening to it also, just watching this video that's been coming out from the vatican this morning has been just fantastic. seemed like frehse rocket, jimmy fallon jump up is if they're going to they're like photobombing behind the pope in the vantage. >> it's pretty remarkable and the bits of it all and talk about a wild flower, and talk about a wild friday. >> and then now he hits the gi summit to talk about his fake puffer jacket. there's a lot going on here for the pope today. that's for sure it's good to see you, christopher. thank you so much so donald trump has a new warning to republicans about how to handle their messaging on abortion and abortion policy. we have more on that coming up and the show must go on apparently brown keeps singing despite being literally left hanging on stage these territories men will come try you use enlarge this year everyone had much needed, but yeah. in american saga, rated are you know, priceline helps families. they 60% on family-friendly hotels. so many great trips, we he might just leave here with another vacation baby i'll take it easy. >> paris and youtube for motor to help lisa wasn't toledo garner happy priceline, kinda riva support your brain health. >> married janet. hey, eddie know fraser, franck. franck, bread. >> how are you? 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>> i'm a little bit nervous and in anticipation for the demolition of the 1,200 building where my daughter, alyssa was murdered my heart just cracked wide open when i was reading a you're speaking to reporters previously and you'd said that this step is part of the healing process for you and your family, that your son still attend school there and that he has to walk past that building where his sister died every day at school house, your son doing with this today? >> so we all know that this is one more step in our healing process and it's important that, you know, six years later that this building comes down and my family, you were grieving the death of our daughter, alyssa or healing, but we're also trying to make change through our non-profit organization, make our schools safe no other families have said that they actually would prefer that the building be preserved. some saying that while excruciatingly painful the tours that have been led through the building with policymakers and others they believe have led to people making safety improvements elsewhere. >> do you see that yeah. >> you're definitely served its purpose at the time legislators going through that building, seeing the blood on the ground, the glass on the floor of the haar that took place there on that valentine's day six years ago. and i know that legislators has made change, like representative wilcox from utah he came back from that tour of the building and he created a very robust skull safety bill with alyssa is law in panic buttons in schools so that if there is a life-threatening emergency, we can get help on the scene as quickly as possible we know that time equals life i don't believe it's been decided what's will go in the building's place if anything, what are you hoping for? what are your thoughts on that so i'm hoping for it to be a usable space. >> it's still in conversations with the families and staff at the school, the teachers but i'd like to see like an mst legacy field where students can practice. there could be a teachable area where we can remember and keep the legacy alive of the 17 alyssa would be about 20-years-old. now can you leave us with a memory of alyse that you're holding close with you today as this moments about to happen the day before lissa was murdered, she played in our last soccer game and she was fierce. >> she was kept another soccer team or the number eight and we just miss in leveling so much and we will continue to keep your memory alive through make our schools save lori. >> thank you so much for coming on. this is a big moment here for your entire community thank you very much. sir all right. >> thank you. still had law enforcement is warning isis isn't done with us new details about the eight men. a recipe width system affected isis terror links, and the gaps and the immigration process that allowed them to cross the border in the first place. plus, cnn speaks with donald trump's supporters and a theme emerges amongst them. they call the united states republic not a democracy. how the trump campaign is changing the narrative on democracy and the dangerous warnings that it now comes with are you concerned if trump loses? 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do you think? >> first of all, welcome back, sara it's great to have you back i think the no, i don't think any of this helps donald trump. i mean, because donald trump will be in this election the person who's singularly responsible for stripping the rights and freedoms away. the women of the united states, i mean, women today, many, tens of millions of women today in the united states have fewer rights and freedoms than people women who live in mexico or brazil. i mean, there's been a huge backsliding in america on fundamental rights and freedoms. and what the president is still supporting is this notion that it's okay for politicians to decide about reproductive freedom, not a woman and her doctor. and so i think what's important for your listeners, your viewers to understand is that when he says he's okay with the idaho law, which is the most restrictive law on the country. and if he's okay with that in idaho, then he's also okay with it everywhere. and so donald trump is running even though he doesn't, i think totally understand this. he's running as an abortion extremist. and i think this is going to be a huge problem. for him in this election as it has been for republicans last two years and i'm going to just sort of go further with that lists how we're republicans sort of responding to this. >> it's, it's almost like he's telling them like tread carefully because this is an issue that we have a problem with, although he boasts about being the president that put the supreme court in place to overturn roe versus wade, right? >> and this is a moment that donald trump's actually being politically savvy and picking up on the moment in the country where other republican position on abortion is widely unpopular because we've seen a number of red states, ohio, kentucky, kansas, where ballot initiatives, constitutional amendments to preserve abortion rights have come up and people have flocked out in droves, including republicans to vote for those rights. so he's absolutely right to say you at minimum need to say that you're for access options, but it's not so much a messaging problem. i think he would like to think that it really is a fax problem and it's the single greatest vulnerability for republicans. my advice is always, if you say you're pro-life, you need to be pro-life through the duration of a child's life if you're for paid family leave greater investment and foster care, investing in programs like wic and tanno that help the most vulnerable mothers that's where republicans should be shifting the messaging, but they have not gotten there floating on this the shoe and the democrats are trying to exploit that. >> and i suspect joe biden is going to really hammer this in the debate against donald trump. he's going to make him own that he's responsible for row coming down. >> all right. i do want to ask you about what happened with donald trump went to capitol hill for the first time since the january 6 attack and we saw what i mean in 2021, this would be extraordinary pictures with him and mitch mcconnell sort of shaking hands and being chummy. mitch mcconnell someone who is privately doesn't have a lot nice to say about donald trump but you see republicans, they're cheering him on. what did you, what was your takeaway from that meeting with donald trump there on alcohol? it was honestly jarring to see donald trump back at the capitol after january 6, a day that i was getting texts from people in the capital who felt like their life was at risk because of a mob that he incited to attack it. and then mitch mcconnell, somebody who was done with him after that day, as we're so many other republican leaders to then come around four years later and embrace him also, someone who's leveled deeply racist attacks against his own wife. i don't know why mitch mcconnell needs to do this. he's not running for leader again, he didn't need to show up and get that handshake photo with them, but it just shows one after the other republicans are lining up behind donald trump because they see the power dynamic shifting those, see that he very well could be president elect and five months simon, what do you make of this and how we're democrats going to potentially use this because everybody has circling the wagons clearly they know he's going to be the presumptive. >> he's the presumptive the nominee and he will he will be the nominee for the party i think it's a reminder of the enormous risk the republican party is taken i came by rallying behind trump. >> i mean, he's not just an insurrection as to somebody who was promising to end american democracy for all time. if he gets into the white house in january of next year. but he's also a felon and he's been and he's now liable for sexual assault. i mean, there's so much baggage that trump has and they are rallying behind him. but i think we're even beginning to see in polling. i mean, we had five polls in the last week showing the race shifting between two and four points to joe biden which is a reminder again that the republicans, i think are taking an extraordinary risks and unprecedented risk and backing a criminal, somebody who led an insurrection, who somebody whose performance on the stamp is wildly far more erratic that it was in the past. and whose positions are more extreme and dangerous than they were in 2020. i mean, maga has been a failed politics failed in 2018, 2020, 2022, and 2023, and they're doubling down on a politics that keeps losing. republicans are taking an enormous political risk by getting behind donald trump and we're starting to see some of the odds from the biden campaign hammering him on some of the many things that you mentioned there simon i want to ask you about what we are kfile dug up which is wasn't that hard to dig up, but they did go back and look which is really interesting one person who has been on the list for the potential vice president for donald trump is a j.d. >> vance, who has been coming out and speaking very positively about him, has basically all nice things to say now, but that was not always the case. you look back at some of the things that he liked on his twitter page were one of them was someone who called donald trump, usa's most hated villainous douchey celebs. like he likes that back in 2016, 2017 assignments simons cracking up, but but i mean, these are things that would really upset for lack of a better word, donald trump, do you see this hurting his chances? >> so there was a time where this would hurt his chances, but i think j.d. vance has gone so far in this about-face of just being a use for donald trump. donald trump actually loves that. he loves somebody who he gets to come to his side. so there's a way to work it to his advantage, but i think it just shows what to do plus it as person j.d. vance's used to be on this network often saying what a threat donald trump was. and now he's come around to despite the facts of january 6 and things only having gotten worse since when he said those things as now his biggest supporter simon we have this juxtaposition here. donald trump was talking to jake paul, a youtube star who just signed a deal with the wwe and they, they took this picture they donald trump was sort of joking around as if he was going to fight with him but when you when you when they sat down, they talk they talked about some of the leaders of countries that are a real problem for the united states, north korea, putin praising them at the same time, joe biden is at the g7 talking through some of these issues for example, like ukraine, this juxtaposition you think democrats should be using some of this in their, in their push towards the white house listed, i think if you look over the last week, you see this, this this incredible contrast that is beginning to emerge. i mean, we had last friday, one of the best jobs reports we've had in recent months, we had 50% more jobs created than was anticipated. inflation report this week, inflation was zero in may price it did not go up in many prices actually went down, which is something that we've all wanted to happen now, for many, many months. and then joe biden has been at the g7 and also he was last week the d-day celebrations where he was representing our values and our interests and very powerful way abroad. and you have a strong american president who's fighting for us abroad. and here at home making things better here at home versus a guy who's spending most of his time trying to stay out of jail. i think that this contrast is gotten much brighter in the last few weeks and will be central to how we're approaching the election this year without a doubt simon rosenberg, alyssa farah griffin. it's always nice to see you. i'm glad to have you onset time and we gotta get you. we've got to get to in here so you can all be at the table and we can get in coffee that's all we got. we appreciate your time both love cookies, loved excellent will bring a lot so to wait okay. i love you with these nice. thank you. then a good show it's also during this, it seems like it's just a matter of time before a dangerous isis affiliate carries out an attack in the united states. that is what one terrorism expert is now telling cnn. >> these fears are growing now among national security officials after the arrest of eight tajik nationals we're with suspected ties to isis this week the men, they crossed the us southern border and were vetted when they requested asylum. those men are now in custody and set to be deported cnn's cabibbo lula's has much more on this and there's a lot to learn about these men and what happened, what they know, what more are you learning about their ties? >> yeah. kate, look very important to understand right off the bat that according to the us officials that we spoke to, there's no evidence at this time that these men were sent to the united states by isis k as any part of a specific plot to conduct violence on the united states. but that doesn't mean that officials weren't very worried about them. one of the things that sparked this arrest it was officials were able to pick up on concerning extremist rhetoric by at least some of these men, prompting, prompting the sting operation across the country to arrest to arrest all eight of these people. now, the concern here for us officials that i spoke to is that these men might have been radicalized to conducted attack once they were already in the united states, potentially feeling isolated, homesick, maybe financially vulnerable. all things that might make a person susceptible to isis propaganda. and one of the things that us intelligence officials know about isis-k. kaye, this particular splinter of isis that these men are said to be connected to, is that they have really emphasize sized their online propaganda and online recruitment efforts. they've really focused on trying to inspire so-called lone wolf attackers rather than train and field operatives the way that al-qaeda did, for example, with the 911 attacks. and so us officials are also particularly concerned because these men and came from tajikistan, tajikistan is a country that isis k has recruited heavily from many isis k liters in afghanistan. or in fact tajik. it's a very poor country. it's a country that where the population is under an extreme amount of religious repression. >> both things that, that terrorism experts in terrorism analysts believe we've really make for a petri dish for extremism. >> and so us officials telling us that they grew they surveilled with this group for a period of time. this sort of derogatory information, this information about their potential ties to isis came to light and amid growing fears by us officials that the that the situation in gaza and the tensions that that is inflamed has left the united states sort of uniquely vulnerable to a potential lone wolf attack. they moved out of an abundance of caution to move and pick up these people and arrest them, but still, kate, a matter of ongoing investigation officials tried to understand both the exact nature of their ties to isis and to understand this group in how it operates in general, kate absolutely. >> thank you for the reporting. katie bell sir. >> all right. across america, a debate is simmering about the nature of the country's political system. >> many maga republicans are claiming that america is not actually democracy. they say it's a republican stead what does this distinction though, mean to them? and what are the implications for the nation's future? cnn's donie o'sullivan went to the heart of the conversation to find out what happens if trump loses? i don't see him losing. i don't think he lost the last election to be honest. do you think he's going to win? yes. yes. without a doubt. no doubt? now, what if he doesn't this time what happens to the contrary we're done. biden talks about democracy, saving democracy they're the ones that are killing democracy. obviously there's a lot of criticisms of interim that he is bad for democracy, that he's bad for american democracy. >> i republican or republic are not a democracy republican. we're not or democracy one thing we've been hearing a trump rallies like this over the past few months. >> is that america? isn't really a democracy. >> america's not a democracy as what we get is not a democracy. democracy is actually not as good as you think it is but for centuries, america has celebrated its democracy democracy is worth dying for democracy remains the definition of political legitimacy, but some republicans and pro-trump media are pushing the idea that america is not a democracy. >> united states of america is not a democracy. we are constitutional republic. those things were america is not a democracy. you don't want to be in a democracy. we are not a democracy. we are a republic is america a democracy? america is a democracy. it was founded as a democracy. >> i've heard a lot of conspiracy theories. i hear a lot of things out on the road, but to hear americans, people who would describe themselves as patriots say that america is not a democracy that stopped me in my tracks. >> you are hearing people say america is not a democracy because there are people around trump who want them to be saying that who've been planting that narrative because america had democracy i don't, i think will not work now yeah, where republic what's the difference i feel like democracy we think this through i, think it's government i don't see freedom and democracy. i seek freedom in the republic, honestly, the word democracy and the word report public have often been used interchangeably. >> there isn't a meaningful difference between them. >> so much of the warnings and criticism about trump is that he is a threat to democracy, that he has anti-democratic. >> absolutely. if they can convince people that we don't have a democracy, then it's okay that trump is attacking democracy because it doesn't really matter that's why has democracy become a bad word? because it's being used your way to change the flavor of our country, which is a republic. >> these words were used in different ways in the 18th century and it's true the found wonders didn't want direct democracy by which they meant people gathering on the town square. they wanted representative democracy. but i think the reason why this conversation about language has risen now is because there is a part of the republican party that would like to rule as a minority. and they need an excuse for why that's okay. and so they have begun to say, we're not a democracy. were public it's not 100% clear what that means, but i think they mean we want donald trump to be able to do whatever he wants some people i've been seeing debt trump events recently. >> yes. have been saying american is not a democracy. it's a republic we've always been in a democracy. >> first of all, we have sleep where use that freedom of speech and freedom of religion. we're used to have that now they're picking on the christians and the jewish people i mean, how much more can we tie? >> are you concerned if trump loses? >> that there'll be another fair january 6? >> no. i think there will be a civil war that's what i think will happen and look, of course, there is a legitimate discussion and debase to have about what form of democracy there is here in the united states. and de, a constitutional republic here's a form of democracy. but that is not what is happening here. what's happening here is that because trump has been