going to come at you, grab you by the neck, and i'm not going to let you go until i'm finished. today, however, under federal investigation in the southern district of new york, his self-described loyal lieutenant seems to have other higher priorities. >> my wife, my daughter, and my son have my first loyalty and always will. i put family and country first. >> and that's not all he told abc over the weekend. he interviewed, as you heard there, was off camera, but on the record. is he saying he's ready to cooperate or fishing for a pardon on charges, which we point out here he has yet to face. we'll talk about that with our panel. first, though, the other hints offered, keeping him honest, how some of what he says undermines or contradicts what the president has said. such as this shortly after the fbi raided cohen's home, office, and hotel rooms. >> so, i just heard that they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys, a good man, and that it is a diskrasful situation, it's a total witch hunt, attack on our country in a true sense, an tack on what we stand for. >> a day later, president tweeted this, attorney-client privilege is dead. now, here's what cohen told george. >> he said, i don't agree with those who demonize orvil v vili the fbi. he shook their hands and spoke about the money he paid to buy stormy daniel's silence which the president said this about. >>. >> did you know about the $130,000 to stormy daniels? >> no, no. >> why did michael cohen -- >> ask michael cohen. michael's my attorney, and you'll have to ask michael cohen. >> do you know where he got the money to make that payment? >> i don't know nothing. >> when asked whether the president, in fact, directed him to make the payoff, he would only offer his nondenial, i want to answer one day, he said, i will answer, but i can't comment now on the advice of my counsel and declined comment when whether trump knew about the meeting with the russians. he called it poor judgment on the campaign part, but neefr v n confirmed or denied the president's knowing of it. a person who receives my loyalty deserves it. i'll always protect our potus, donald trump. >> the president has not tweeted about him in two months. his name did come up, however, at the white house today. we are there for tonight, and sanders brushed aside questions about cohen. what's your sense of how concerned they are tonight about cohen? >> reporter: john, no question the white house and the president's allies certainly would have been more relieved if michael cohen told george i put my family, the country, and my president first, but he did not say, i put my president first. he said i put my family and country first. there was a sense here. this is more than 12 hours later, of a sense of what is michael cohen up to, what exactly is he doing? why do the interview over the weekend? not on camera, but on the record. you saw pictures there of george there and in short sleeves talking to michael cohen, trying to send a message to the white house here. the question is, what is that message? is he about on the verge of a cooperating with the feds? is he looking for a pardon? we don't know the answer to the question, but the white house press secretary today, sarah sanders, not surprisingly not answering any of the questions, so they routinely dismiss them to outside lawyers, but it is still a very big question here as sun sets in washington. what was michael cohen up to? >> so, jeff, the president is always known to watch and react to the news. how telling will it be, frankly, if he does not react to the cohen interview? >> reporter: john, extraordinary because up until now, again, more than 12 hours after the interview aired, we have heard nothing from the president, not speaking out loud, not on twitter. keeping with the pattern. you said, it's been two months since he talked about michael cohen. there's no one closer to the president other than family members here at the white house, than michael cohen, so the president clearly seems to me to be following the advise of lawyers or advisers in keeping his mouth shut on this front. we'll see if he keeps that up or tweets overnight or in the morning. as of now, john, that silence is telling. the question is, what is it telling us? we don't know the answer to that yet. >> don't poke the bear legally speaking, thank you so much. >> reporter: sure. another telling item surrounding the conversation, according to abc news, the joint legal defense agreement he shares with the president will end this week as cohen's new lead counsel takes charge. cohen told george that he will belie on the advice and deciding whether or not to cooperate with the government. joining us now, our own legal team, john, great to have you with us, you heard cohen say that he -- also, what he did not say -- cohen spoke of putting family first, but made no mention of loyalty to the president. you, of course, flipped on nixon in watergate. what's your read on what's going on here? is this a signal to federal prosecutor, the president, or both? >> i don't think it's both. i think he has an audience of one, really, and the way he did it, in particular, and that is for trump. he floated this publicly, so trump would know he is serious, where his thinking might be going, and he doesn't talk to trump anymore. he doesn't really have any close links anymore, so this is a very public way to do it. you got to also realize the fact it was not on camera, and it was not recorded, means it's pure here say. all that's on the record now is george's repetition or quoting what he did or did not say. the lawyer, himself, said they did not want a hard record of this, a public statement either. >> keri, do you think this will have any effect on how prosecutors deal with cohen? >> well, it's interesting, john, because, really, if what michael cohen, if the only thing he was after is cooperating with the government, then doing this very publicly actually is not quite the way to go about it. if all he was interested in is cooperating, then the way to do that is go through the channel of his lawyer, quietly, directly talking to the prosecutors and agents telling them what information of value he has to offer, and then they would make a decision as to whether or not that's worth cutting some kind of deal or giving him some kind of leniency or listening to what he has to say. it seems there is some ulterior motive other than cooperating with the federal government. >> john, would that ulterior motive be getting the president to pay legal bills or preemptive bargain? >> it could be either. theoretically, a president could pardon before even an offense is charge the in this instance. he could give that blanket immunity. it is that broad. theoretically, could pay legal fee expenses, that's closer to obstruction and serious problems, but i think he's fishing and floaty at this point. i think his experience defense attorney will just pick up the phone when he's ready to cooperate and talk to his former leagues in the southern district. >> one thing that's not fishing or floating, but a concrete fact here, keri, the joint agreement between michael cohen's representation and the president's legal team ends this week. that happened also before michael flynn copped a plea. what's that tell you here? >> well, i think the big question with michael cohen is, first, what criminal penalties is he going to be facing? what legal jeopardy is he in that would motivate him to cooperate in some substantial way, and the second question is, what does he know that would be of value to the government. there's questions about he was not in the campaign, does he know things that are important to the russian investigation. we don't know. is there some other aspect of the government's investigation, for example, we don't know publicly yet, for example, is there an inquiry to trump organization finances? if terrorihere is, that seems l he'd be knowledgeable about that and potentially provide information about. there's just big questions about what exposure he has and what information of value he has to offer. >> sure, but severing ties with the president's legal team is a significant step, correct? >> it sure is, and what's clear, i mean, clearly through his public statement is cohen's interests are now his own. he's saying that publicly, decouple interests that was preachesly ali ll lly -- previod with the president, whatever this was, and now acting in his own interests. >> john, i want to read what he said here. you have a unique experience living through -- i don't want to say something similar, but your open story here. he said i will not be a punching bag as a defense strategy. i'm not a villain of the story and not allowing others to depict me that way. what do you hear there? >> sending a message to trump people and those aaround him. i didn't talk to the press a lot, but i dictated a message one time to my secretary to read to the "washington post" and "ap," and did they picked me as the scapegoat, they had the wrong person. that's a whole other story. >> if -- how do you think the white house should read that message then for michael cohen? >> very much we're saying that he's sending a a message he's now his own man, that he's not going to play for the president, he's going to look at what is best in his interest and president might be able to do something for him in that interest or the prosecutors might. wait for the charges and make a decision. >> unusual moment to say the least, john, keri, thank you for helping us try to understand. next up, new developments that cast a dark nuclear shadow on president trump's sunny assessment with kim jong un and claim that the korean crisis was all by over. later, good news about the children missing for days in a a flooded cave, but it comes with a catch that's harder to imagine. about how long they may have to wait and what they may have to learn just to reach the surface. casual sharing can spread meningococcal meningitis. though rare, it can take your teen's life in just 24 hours. even if they had the first dose of mcv4 vaccine at 11 or 12 years, they need the second-dose at 16. call their doctor today. it all started when donald trump tore thousands of immigrant children away from their parents. we the people challenged him in court and in the streets. then trump was forced to admit that his policy was wrong. and he caved. the court just ruled that trump must reunite every family he broke apart. 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>> it's absolutely not a surprise to anybody who knows the first thing about north korea. there was never any conclusion that north korea was planning to denuclearize. the surprise is president trump was credulous enough to believe kim jong un's empty assurances he was working towards the complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula, the same thing the north koreans said since 1992. there was never any substance to this, to this empty promise, and now donald trump believed it was interesting to me that it seems there's a lot of people in the u.s. government who are now eager to leak these top secret intelligence assessments. i would assume because they are worried that otherwise trump would bury the evidence of north korean cheating. they clearly want this out in the open so people know how the united states was swindled and comets to be swindled as long as the trump administration pretends that they are still making real progress. >> admiral kirby according to the "washington post" part of the reporting here, they are considering ways to conceal the number of weapons and facilities it has. believing the u.s. just doesn't know the full range of their activities. obviously, getting that count, getting that baseline is so key in the process towards denuclearization, so how do you read this on the heels of the summit? >> yeah. i think, well to follow up on max's point, you can't trust them. this is the playbook. this is what they have done in the past. they will not be transparent about this. that's why the regimen, verification inspection regimen has to be as stringent as it can. expect hthem to cheat and hide things going forward. this program got trump to the table. kim thinks it's vital for the regime's survival. no way he's giving that up easily or quickly. he wants to preserve as much capability throughout the negotiations through the end as he possibly can. >> what do you think of the leaks, admiral? >> i'm troubled by them, but i agree with max. i think that these leaks are coming from the intelligence community as they try to show a bright light on the fact that trump was too naive and the north koreans are not negotiating in good faith right now. i do think, though, as troubling as they are, i think that pompeo uses that to his advantage there this week and make it so that it can be clear to the north koreans we know what you're up to. we are watching it very, very closely, not fooled, let's start down a path to try to actually get to details here. >> what do you think, max, we'll see from the secretary of state when he goes to pyongyang? >> well, that's the big question. it's interesting that donald trump is not actually reacting personally to the information about north korea cheating. i assume he's holding up on that waiting to see what pompeo learns in north korea. it'll go one of two ways. one, kim offers more empty assurances to pompeo and he'll accept them or not. the other way it'll go is kim shows he's serious about denuclearization, unlikely, but if he is, he'll make a declaration of the entire nuclear program like secret sfil facilities, not declared to date, and what happens in pyongyang, watch for donald trump's reaction. he'll basically continue to assist in the this con job that kim jong un is carrying out in the hopes of winning a nobel peace prize or the other possibility, just as disturbing, that he may decide he's been flying off the handle and react violently. stay tuned for it. >> you've been in tune at the state department and podium. based with this mounting evidence leaked from the agencies, washington post reporting separate things, how can you continue to say that the process is moving forward? it does put the administration in a behind here. >> it does. it's a tough place for any spokesman to be. i suppose you could logically say that, yes, the process is moving forward because talks are happening, meetings are, you know, traveling there, he can say that it's moving forward. you don't want to give away inside discussions that are happening, but what you got to do is understand how long it's going to take, how difficult it's going to be, and how much that because there's no trust between our two countries, they have to start building some sort of confidence building measures in place that are transparent. as transparent as possible so that when sarah sanders is up there the next time, she can point to something tangible rather than say, oh, it's going forward. >> max, doesn't north korea want to string this along? against their interest to show the president up in a major way? shouldn't they or wouldn't they, in your mind, give him something to hang his hat on? >> yes, absolutely. i was surprised they did not make greater concessions in singapore and surprised that they continued to increase nuclear capabilities play tonightly. assume they were not aware of the extent of the u.s. intelligence collection capabilities and surprised we caught them, but, yes, both kim and trump have a mutual interest here in stringing the public along because kim, of course,mentcourse, me wants to avoid a public blowback from president trump and avoid a military strike, wants to be relaxed like today and collect the world stage trump gave him. trump has an interest in stringing the public along thinking this was, in fact, a highly successful deal instead of a swindle in which he was the mark. >> max, admiral kirby, thank you, appreciate it. coming up, anger grows over immigration policies, calls to abolish i.c.e., not just from protesters, but prominent democratic lawmakers, something the president is all too happy to tweet about. sometimes a day at the ballpark is more than just a day at the ballpark. 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>> certainly not a wave. many democrats have not taken this position than have, but right to know it is growing. a lot of that grows from the congressional primary in new york last weekend where it was supercharged as an issue because cortez won the race, one of her policy positions. this is something that's been building in the progressive community, the immigration reform advocates that are part of the fuel of the democratic base energy right now, and so that's why i think you're starting to see some of these democratic politicians, especially those that are looking to the 2020 presidential race, see where the energy is in the base of the party and think they need to move there if they are going to be right with the base. >> and, ryan, obviously, the white house responded quickly to this. the president was practically gleeful over the weekend, and what we saw this afternoon was remarkable, and i think some see it as troubling. from the official white house twitter account, attacks on harris and warren accusing them of supporting ms 13 gang members and criminals, which is not true, but you can see how the republicans use this, and the white house is using this because of their opposition to i.c.e. wanting to create a new system to enforce the border. they are saying they support ms13. >> yeah. you can see how easily it can be for the white house if it wants to be completely irresponsible with the facts to demagogue the issue, and, look, this is a new issue for most democrats, and i think you've seep a lot of confusion among older democratic elected officials over how to approach it, and there's a lot more conservative politicians scared this seeing, oh, it's a security issue. we're going to get hammered. and i think the -- you know, on the left, the argument is look, you have to widen the issue of debate on the issues and push as far as you can, otherwise, you know, you'll never get anywhere. if we were here three years ago, look at donald trump and effort to build the wall and so many pundits, ridiculous idea. he's going to lose presidential election if he runs on this, and that didn't happen, so i think we have to be very -- use this exercise of humility looking in this in terms how it plays politically. it's not really clear to me at this point whether it's a good or bad issue for democrats. i do know that democrats who believe in abolishing i.c.e. would probably benefit them to explain it clearly, right? and for them to understand that what they are opposed to is this essentially what -- what the deportation force that's going into communities, ripping families apart, and stems from donald trump's executive order in 2017 saying i.c.e. is no longer going after just criminals, but anyone who is here and is undocumented. that's a big change, and it's having profound effects in communities across the country. >> yeah, but being against i.c.e. or wanting to abolish i.c.e. does not mean being for open borders, but, dave, you know there are democrats who are uncomfortable saying that. we hear from senator duckworth over the weekend telling jake yesterday you can't win the white house without the midwest, and you can't win the midwest going too far left. you know, that's pretty far down the line, though, right now, democrats think we have to win primaries. >> right. you mentioned the two senators there. the congressional hispanic caucus put out talking points on this suggesting that abolishing i.c.e. may not be the policy prescription that makes the most sense. there are -- many democrats are concerned as ryan said. unclear what the politics will be and play out. it is clear to me that the republicans have an easier bumper sticker attack, factually or not, to make here, the concern among democrats, than explanatory, this is what we mean, and this is what needs to be replaced. that does not fit on a bumper sticker. that's why it's potentially politically treacherous terrain for democrats, but as ryan pointed out about the wall or the muslim land, we're in an era where base politics has a driver to electoral outcome than seen before in modern political history. >> over the last few weeks, in the poll, democrats picked up significant ground on the issue of immigration. we'll see if that continues throughout the summer, ryan, david, thank you so much. >> thanks, john. >> appreciate it. >> sure. cnn learned the names of four potential supreme court nominees that the president spoke with today. we will give you their names and talk about the impact of any of them on the issue of abortion going forward. are you done yet? 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>> caller: well, first of all, they are all young, they are people who are already on u.s. courts of appeals. in fact, two of them are individuals who president trump named himself. judge barrett is 46, the youngest on the list, and president trump chose her for the chicago based 7th circuit court of appeals just last september. john, she's a former law clerk to justice scalia. she had been a law professor at notre dame. she was narrowly confirmed by the senate by a vote of 55-43 last october, and only three democrats supported her. one other point on her, john, is that some democrat lawmakers expressed doubts she would uphold roe, and she got into a conflict with senator diane feinstein about some of her religious writings. she could -- there could be a flash point there if she's the nominee. the other one that i will mention right off the bat is judge brett kavanaugh, 53 years odd, and on the u.s. court of appeals circuit. he was put on the appeals court here in washington by george w. bush, but he's a former law clerk to justice anthony kennedy, a nice passing of the baton from the man leaving the bench, and quickly, just so the audience knows the others, amulamul amul is already named to the 6th circuit court of appeals, a favorite of mitch mcconnell, from kentucky, 49, went to berkley law school, and, finally, raymond, 51, a president george w. bush appointee. >> in my understanding, correct me if i'm wrong, bringing the conversation to charlie now, is there's every wherein to believe the four judges with the other 21 on the list of 25 we've seen from the federal society and others, all oppose abortion rights and would, in herely, work to roll back parts of roe v. wade. congressman, you are now in the conversation right know. the president says he's not asking about roe when he meets with these people, but the fact is, he doesn't have to ask, does he? >> no, he doesn't. we've always gone through this pretense, presidents of both parties. no litmus test, when, in fact, we know there are. that's unfortunate. it's a sad day that the selection of a supreme court nominee comes down to this one issue of abortion. too bad there's not more like connor and kennedy who are not completely predictable on the court and serve the nation extraordinarily well. now it seems on both sides we want the justices who we are predictable and ideological. >> you know, senator coal llili republican in the senate who support abortion rights, do not want to overturn roe. susan collins would not support someone openly hostile to roe there. do you think she'll take a stand here? >> well, i know susan collins very well. she's very tough. she has strongly held views, and i saw her on health care when the bill went too far. >> right. >> in the senate as well as the house. she pushed back. she's not afraid to stand up, and she is pro-choice to be sure, and she has a strong voting record in -- >> critics say on taxes, though, she was pronged to something, voted ultimately for the tax cut never delivered, so, to an extent, was pushed around on that vote. it seems here, she's getting assurances, oh, oh, this is not about roe v. wade, but, again, all 25 people on that list seem committed. >> yeah, those payments at the time were an issue, but at the moment, the tax credits are sufficient. less of an issue, yeah, you're right, not treated fairly as she should have been, you know, given the volt, but point is, the market is more or less stabilized since that time. don't count her out. she'll do what she -- she's not afraid to, you know, go against the tide. >> i will note, again, read the list of the four judges interviewed by the president today. barrett on the list the president already spoke with. joan larson, another name, two women the president is speaking to. how do you think if he nominated a woman that affects the dynamic in the confirmation process? >> well, it oftentimes, those who support abortion rights say that those who oppose abortion rights are somehow anti-woman so it's hard to do that when a woman is nominated. predictably one well-qualified, but pro-life, anti-choice, so i think it's really harder to demonize a woman nominee based on that one issue. i think if the president played smart politics here, he'd nominate a woman to mitigate some of the damage on the abortion issue. >> as i let you go, congressman, i remind people more than six in ten voters agree with the decision on abortion, but majority of the republicans disagree. charlie, thank you so much. great to have you with us. time to check in with chris cuomo for what's coming up on "cuomo prime time." >> good job. the markets are not stabilized. people should do research. we got a lot of trouble coming on insurance. we are talking tonight about policy and politics, my brotherment on tbrother me -- who is michael cohen's audience, for example, and is trump responsible for this? 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>> yes, sir. >> of the administrator's schedule. >> reporter: cnn found two dozens events, meetings or calls left off pruitt's calendar, which was only found weeks after the events occur. what's missing? meetings with lawyers, washington insiders who could potentially benefit from a friendlier epa. >> he would meet with the industry lobbyists, and decided that that would not look good, let's scrub it off the calendar. >> we would put on the schedule, meeting with staff. that was the fault button was meeting with staff. >> reporter: want some examples? internal e-mail shows in april 2017, pruitt has a briefing and attends a dinner at trump international hotel with coal company joseph kraft. it's not listed on the epa calendar. september 2017, it shows pruitt met with former senator-turned energy industry lobbyist, present ltrent lott, but left off it a president of a shipping company and the shipping of the fuel source. a staff briefing appeared on the calendar. e-mails show the actual meeting was with private attorneys representing a water district over a superfund site. >> we had at one point three different schedules. one of them was one that no one else saw besides three of four of us. >> reporter: two government experts tell cnn, altering, sanitizing official government reports to protect the boss, could lead to league trouble. >> if somebody changed, deleted, scrubbed a federal record with the intent of deceiving the public or anybody, it could be a violation of federal law. >> reporter: the most controversial deletion of all, came after pruitt's $120,000 tata taxpayer funded trip to rome in 2017. that trip included extensive interaction with catholic cardinal george pell, who was charged with sexual offenses weeks later, to which pell pleaded not guilty. this shows a tour with cardinal pell. it's not on pruitt's official calendar. also missing, a lunch with cardinal pell. >> all of the time at the vatican was spent with cardinal pell. cardinal pell was our host. >> reporter: none of the tours, dinners or lunches appeared later when scott pruitt released his calendar. that was intentional. >> once we came back, the cardinal was charged with the offenses, i alerted them and that's when it was basically taken off of the schedule that we met with cardinal pell. >> reporter: he was fired from the epa after raising questions about scott pruitt's extravagant spending. he supports donald trump and donald trump's pledge to drain the d.c. swamp. he says keeping pruitt at epa makes no sense. >> if there's something wrong, i don't care if it's republican or democrat, right is right and wrong's wrong. what he's doing is completely wrong. >> drew griffin joins me now. these are serious allegations. what's the response? 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>> right now, they're trying to figure out their options for evacuating them immediately by diving or whether or not they can allow them to shelter in place, until such time that the conditions are safer. >> out of all of the options believed to be available, what's the most ideal? and what's the most dangerous? >> diving them out is the most dangerous. unless they're in a location in the cave where the water could come up and is no longer safe. if they are in a location of the cave for them to shelter in police station, the safest option is to provide them with supplies and wait until either the water goes down or a new entrance can be made or found. the biggest challenge they're immediately facing is because these kids and their coach has been without food for nine days. that means we can't just give them food. they have to be reintroduced to food carefully because just providing them with food to itself can kill them. there's something called the refeeding syndrome for people that's been without food for some time. >> can you get the medical care you need to get to them while trapped in that cave? >> most likely. it's not a complicated situation as far as the refeeding process. my understanding is that the u.s. military has sent divers as well as the thai s.e.a.l. team. my guess is they have personnel to them. >> you say diving them out could be the most dangerous path available to them here. what makes that so dangerous? >> it can put the divers at risk. the biggest risk is to the kids themselves. cave diving is an incredibly dangerous activity for people who are experienced doing it. you're looking at taking people who have no experience or little experience with koodiving and putting them into a blackout situation where they have to rely on the regulator and the tanks with them