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surveillance on a high-ranking campaign official. manafort is at the center of russia meddling investigation. we are told there are imoccasions raising concerns about whether manafort was encouraging rushes to help with the campaign. other sources tell us this was not conclusive enough. mueller's team has been provided all these imoccasions anderson. >> what document by encouraging? >> we don't know exactly what was said. communications involving manafort and none of this has amounted to what people consider a smoking gun in this investigation. there's still more work to be done to determine whether there's a criminal violation here. we didn't get a comment from paul manafort's spokesman, but manafort previously denied he ever knowingly communicated with russia during campaign. >> they monitored him on two separate occasions or at two separate times, correct? >> that's right. that centered on work don't by a group of washington consulting firms, four ukraine's parties. the surveillance was discontinued at some point last year for a lack of evidence, according to one of our sources. then the fbi at some point, we started the surveillance after obtaining warrants that extends into earlier this year. the second warrant was part of fbi efforts to -- and suspected russian opt tifrs. it's unclear when that new warn started. anderson as part of this, we have learned earlier this year the fbi conducted a search of a storage facility longing to paul manafort. it's unclear what was taken after that search. fast forward months later, then there was a raid on his home this past july by the fbi and robert mueller. >> so, do we know whether paul manafort spoke to the fbi while under surveillance? >> we don't know exactly. what we've been told by sources is that the president and manafort were still talking well after the campaign was over. during that time the fbi was listening to paul manafort's phone. it's possible those conversations were collected. >> so, evan was the president right when he asserted, remember that tweet, he said ---oi don'te the exact wording, but obama had -- >> yeah wirings was tapped. the justice department denied the president's own line was wiretapped. we should know manafort does have a residence in trump tower. it's not clear when the fbi was doing surveillance on him in there, but i can see, you can see the president supporters coming out and saying that the president was right all along. >> appreciate it. it's a lot to dig into with his qualified panel tonight. cnn analyst car bernstein, john dean, and national security analyst who was a former fbi and special agent. jeff, how significant is this and how tough is this to get a warrant? >> this is very significant. first of all, just to get a warrant like this, you have to persuade the court there is probable cause to believe -- how she used to do this kind of work -- that this was the agent of a foreign government. thanks to the patriot act, the law passed after 9/11 that physician can be shared can criminal investigators. the wall between criminal has been broken down that's why this information can be passed to mueller. what we don't know is what was the basis for the warrant, what went into the the statement that the fbi made to the judge to grant the warrant, and most importantly, we don't know what was said. we don't know what manafort said and who he was speaking to. the fact that they got two warrants suggests that the first wasn't totally useless because it allowed them to get a second one. >> so you can get two warrants? >> absolutely. it's based on evidence and panelist reporting there were two separate warnings one after the evidence. >> what do you make of that? >> yes, so whether you get a fie sa order on a u.s. person the standard is higher for a non-u.s. person. you have to show the court not only is the person an agent of foreign powers and they're knowingly being a spy. once you get that order, you have to go back to the court every 90 days and show the court that you are in fact getting foreign intelligence information. if that f that 90-day period you have not gotten that information the surveillance has to cease. so, as jeffrey said there could have been a gap with it ceased, and if they find there is other information they're getting about his probable intelligence connection they can use some of the intelligencetative gotten before, the new stuff and put -- >> how rare is it that they'd have surveillance but according to the report back in 2014 and stop it because they didn't think they were getting anything and then restart? >> i don't think it's necessarily unusual. this 90-day period is there to provide a check, so the government can't sit there listen and just wait until something happens. if they're not getting it for 90 days they have to stop. and until they can get something else that can corroborate or beef up -- in this case it sound like what started off his contacts with the ukrainians turned into additional contacts with the russians and that was able to restart -- >> if i can add one point. the fie sa court has often been accused of being a rubber stamps for prosecutors, they don't turn down a lot of warrants. however, this is the real world, this judge, we don't know who the judge was, had to know that paul man forwas likely speaking to the president elect or president of the united states and they were not going to willy kneelly give any sort of warrant -- >> absolutely. >> the fbi must have had some considerable interest to get the court to grant the warrant. >> what exactly manafort did to help the russians with the pain and what exactly the second round of wiretapping began and ended. >> we don't know yet who the person is or persons, plurl, who talked to manafort who were russians. what we do see here is the court found probable cause to have this surveillance under extraordinary circumstances and it's part of a much larger pattern that we've seen of eefrts closing in on the united states of the, on his campaign, on his businesses, on his family. we're also watching with the people around him, they're interaction with a raging president about all of this happening at this time. and what we know now is because manafort has been heard on these wiretaps, this gives prosecutors a great tool to ask manafort and others about these discussions. why were you having them, manafort has 5 amendment right, he doesn't have to answer those questions. by why were you on the tell with this gentleman or people in the first place. the fact there's been raids on his house, his storage facility -- look, manafort has been in the cross hairs from the beginning. he's not even -- i'm told -- fully talked to his lawyers about many aspect of what he knows and play not know. there also is the whole question of so far, no one in this investigation, among the principals who are willing looked at by mueller, mr. flynn, mr. manafort, others have so called flipped and talking to mueller and spilling their guts about anything. the one person being looked at perhaps is more favorable to get information from, i'm told, is rick dearborn, who is the white house assistant to the president for legislative affairs. not to say he's don anything wrong but he was witness to some of the discussions that went into the plain, the airplane discussion in which the t president drafted a statement defending his son. what i'm getting here in this round about way is things closing in. when you have a fie sa court enabling this, that makes the pressure on the president and those around him greater. >> john, how do you see this as somebody that's seen in this from -- >> been there. >> yeah. >> i seen unusual aggressiveness by this prosecutor. i must -- one of the things and first reactions i had, i recall when i was cooperating with the prosecutor was they asked me to wear a wire and go meet with my colleagues, i refused to do that. prosecutors like wiretapped information or somebody locks go out and gather for them. this is long before they knew nixon had a caping system. that doesn't surprise me totally. we now have a much higher standard with the fie sa court and that shows the seriousness with which they're treating this investigation and that's what i find striking at this point. >> so john, the president tweeted out before, terrible, just found out obama add my wires tapped at trump tower just before the victory, nothing found. he wen on to say, hello the president tapped my phone during the process, this is nixon watergate bad or sick guy. does he now get to say that he was right? >> well, it's a little closer but it's not exactly right. i understand from the cnn's reporting that there was no evidence that trump himself was wiretapped or that manafort's apartment in the trump towers was wiretapped. so there was no evidence that the trump towers, as the president claimed had been wiretapped. also the justice department and fbi believed and formally denied that charge. it's a little closer but not a horseshoe. >> right, it is significant nat fbi and the department of justice said that, you know, that the trump tweet was not the case, meaning -- >> meaning that he was not a target. and even if trump were picked up in this kind of surveillance, he would normally be minimized, which means they would screen out what he was saying. and his identity would be masked in the communication. the only way that they would reveal to anyone looking at it who it was that manafort was talking to, is if they needed to know the identity of the person in order to make sense of the communication or gain additional information. >> well it would be minimized if he was not involved in the investigation. >> absolutely that's right. >> but if he was involved -- >> that's right. >> he was talking to manafort about campaign strategy or nothing to do with collusion or anything like that. >> right. it will be minimized. if they were talking about russia trump would be -- >> so it's relevant to getting the foreign information and the investigation they would. hi wouldn't still be considered a target that's an incidental communication. >> we got to take a break. former top cia russian expert into the conversation. also hurricane maria we're following closely, a category 5 storm tracking toward puerto rico. hard to believe another cat 5 storm. we'll tell you where it is and where it's heading. when you're close to the people you love, does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment? 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>> no. my experience with federal prosecutors is they don't threaten indictments unless their prael prepared to do it. there's a formal process where you as a sub -- if you were being investigated you can ask for what's called a target letter asking for your status, are you a witness, which means you're not going to be indicted. are you a subject, which is someone they're looking at. are you a target? whether you get a target letter it's a virtual certainty you're going to get indicted. it sounds like they gave manafort the letter or told him orally he is a target. it's not out of the realm of possibility. if in a high-profile environment like this, prosecutors told paul manafort he's going to be indicted, he's going to be indicted. >> i think that's especially true -- >> lets beclear on one thing. >> hold on let ashley finish. >> mueller's no nonsense and going to go after everything he can. i don't think he's going to intimidate anybody in an investigation, i don't think he needs to. he's going to get the evidence that he needs to bring charges. >> charles? >> can i be clear about what he may or may not be indicted for, because there's no surprise he is going to be indicted. it is very likely the indictment will have to do with fairly to register and follow procedures for failing to register under the foreign agent registration act. the idea behind an indictment is to try as might happen with flynn also, under the same provisions of the foreign agent registration act is to try and get manafort or flynn or others if his position to talk. it's not at all clear that these indictments that might be forthcoming would have anything directly to do with collusion with the russians or with a cover-up in regard to what's happened in the election with supposed events related to russia. this too can be a tool to try and get more information. so i think we need to not jump so far ahead. >> let me just add one point that i think is -- we sometimes miss is -- collusion is a word we throw around a lot about this investigation. was the government of rush colluding with the trump campaign. there is no federal crime called collusion. it's not even clear that it's illegal for there to be some sort of coordination. it would be outrageous, unproper, a violation of our traditions, but it is not clear that that's a federal crime. i think that's one of the peculiar yats of this investigation that it is aimed at disclosing something that may itself may not be a federal crime. >> and i think there might be more than the foreign agent registration act. we know when manafort's home was searched they took out boxes of documents, financial documents, you mentioned they'd taken photos of his suits, looked in the storage facility. if the only indictment that mueller potentially had was for the foreign registration act, that would be surprising, it wouldn't match up with what they're looking for. and it's very weak, it only have a five-year penalty. >> john dean, whether you look at the tactics mueller and liz team are using, i'm wondering what you make of them. do you see them being in terms of shock and awe, and in some cases with some people, not necessarily with those in the warehouse now? >> well, i've looked at most of the post-watergate investigations, i must say this is much more aggressive than the norm. these are all high-profile investigations where the special counsel or independent counsel under the former act knew they were in the spotlight accident occurring their investigation, that they were under certain scrutiny themselves and they proceeded giving curtesies to the targets of their investigation, that's not happening here. it appears in this investigation they're worried about, maybe we have a spy in our midst. the fact that they used the fie sa court twiez ace and they're trying to root it out and not prevent any damage the city on the other hand may cause. >> john makes a good point. search warrants are unusual in criminal cases. the fact they'd go search someone's house at 6:00 in the morning it's unusual. >> we got to take a break. more with this ahead. experience a shift in the natural order. experience amazing. i even accept i have a higher risk of stroke as far as i used to. due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. but no matter where i ride, i go for my best. so if there's something better than warfarin, i'll go for that too. eliquis. eliquis reduced the risk of stroke better than warfarin, plus had less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis had both. don't stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. while taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily... ...and it may take longer than usual for any bleeding to stop. seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. eliquis may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. i'm still going for my best. and for eliquis. ask your doctor about eliquis. ♪ i tabut with my back paines, i couldn't sleep and get up in time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. i'm back. aleve pm for a better am. . we don't yet fully know how cnn's tonight reporting on paul manafort fit the larger puzzle. we're joined by a member of the house intelligence committee. congress sexuwaul well. congressman thanks for joining us. what's your take on the encouraging of the russians with the campaign? >> good evening. we want our investigator to be determined to get in the way that they unravel what the russians did, if they are not the russians will get away with it. if this is in fact true, that's encouraging, they're using every legal means available to understand what relationships were between donald trump's campaign chairman and other associates and even perhaps candidate trump at the time himself and the russians. >> did you or anyone on the committee know he has been wiretapped? >> anderson, can't say yes or no to that. we are seeking to bring in mr. manafort as well as roger stone, carter page, everyone who was included on the june 9th e-mail. we've already had our first round of interviews with jared kushner and expect to bring him back. >> so rob mueller and his team of investigators have prided details of the wiretap with the intel committee, will they try to get that information as well? >> can't go into the classified nature of our investigation but i'll tell you that manafort's important because he presided over a time of intense activity by the russians in summer of 2016. that's when the june 9th meeting took place, that's when the convention confirmed, the party that was pro-russian. and of course that's when roger stone imadmitted that john pa december that was going to -- so he was a central firg when russia's interfering campaign was at peak performance. >> there is an article in "new york times" that when manafort's home was raided the lock was picked and mueller told manafort they are planning to indict him. i'm worn wag your theying to that is? >> that would be -- it would be under seal, if it hasn't the grand jury and investigators would know. you'd hope for the sake of the country he'd cooperate. if he know something about the u.s. president to work with the runners he's be honest with that. we've seen so many dedenial from trump, his campaign and others with dealings with russia. it's time to just be straight with the american people and we'd get to the bottom of this much faster. thank you for your time. >> cnn analyst david joins us now. i'm wondering how big a news is this that paul manafort was wiretapped? >> this is still a significant story, we're still in the stages of understanding. you do need a top justice department officials to sign off on this. and it was started before mueller got there. i think both those facts are very significant. it does raise the question of whether that are trying to flip manafort owner, or if he knows enough now. it indicates he's in great legal jeopardy. they had the wiretap and basically they weren't able to come up with evidence but they are able to go a second time around, get it approved. that suggests it's something here, something incriminating and least going to be under a lot of pressure to flip. he may well face indictment or some combination thereof. >> do you think they could be using the charge of him working as a foreign agent without registering, use that as a method to get him to flip if he has other information? >> yes, absolutely. the more they can pile up on him, the multiple charges, then the incentive to cooperate goes well up as you may well know. i still emphasize we're still in the early stages, there's a lot we don't know about this. it's yet another dark cloud and i think they get darker with regard to manafort. he's clear, he and general flynn seem to be two of the principal players, they're investigating very very thoroughly. that casindicates you're seriou and b you're ready to take him down. >> i'm wondering what president trump may be thinking about there and reacting to this. he sent out tweets saying he learned obama was tapping his wires in trump tower, something that justice department and fbi have said didn't happen, no evidence of. i assume he could now say, well, look there was some wiretapping going on. >> there was -- well there was wiretapping under a federal court order, federal court of approval. with top justice department officials and his own justice appointment it appears maybe it's just the obama team, okay we'll have to wait and see. there's additional questions anderson, which i just don't know the answer to, but i think would be driving the president nuts is, how did he ever get past the screen where he made chairman of the campaign. there was enough going on legally in the background that somebody should have gotten notice that there was something questionable, if not fishy about his back grown. wlooid they put him in there. president trump must be really angry at his handlers for letting him have the reigns. your option of having a campaign chairman awhile your serving -- >> but at the time it was a pretty bones campaign. it was free will. so -- >> well that's true. >> i'm wondering how much vetting that was done on anyone. >> well, that's a very very good question. typically a more establishment figure would pick up a lot of rumors and gossip and know there's something out there. i think this was a vulnerability trump had, so he didn't have the powerful circle of inner people that knew what was going on in washington visaing him. he's got a right to be frustrated about that, i'm sure he's very frustrated. just when he thinks he may be turning the corner. i think this is a blow to the president, it does send a signal, at least a couple people in the circle. and paul manafortive in t was i inner circle at that period and time. i've never heard of anybody being hired in a major campaign or a white house position who was under investigation this way. frankly, why the hell didn't manafort tell them? it was totally unfair of him to walk in there if it was not known under those circumstances. >> lot of questions. david i appreciate it that i can. new details about allow president's own attorney is reacting to the inch investigation. a "new york times" reporter overheard a conversation a attorney had. what he said in a moment. can ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ whstuff happens. old shut down cold symptoms fast with maximum strength alka seltzer plus liquid gels. . we have another russia headlines tonight. lawyers are disagrees over how much to cooperate with the russian probe. how we know this is almost interesting as what we know. according to "new york times" one of the reporters overheard trump lawyers tie cob talking openly about another white house employee talking about trump. i want to bring back john dean and jeff. jeff, these are high power attorneys, doesn't make any sense, a lawyer at this level talking in a restaurant like this. >> i ride the train a lot, people are talking loud. you often think to you're, people couldn't do the dump things that they do, but they do. and he -- and apparently these are very experienced lawyers. this is a very conspicuous place, this is right by the office of the "new york times." kim vogue ls did the noble thing. when people are talking about newsworthy topic he listened. he found out -- the controversy here is a familiar one for everyone. the issue of how much up to cooperate -- >> the president's own lawyer apparently wants to cooperate more by the white house counsel, don, as concerns about protecting the presidency long beyond the trump administration. >> that's right. there's nothing sinister about that kind of debate. those are debate debates lawyers have. the question that is compelling is the reference kim overheard to the documents don have in his safe that has not been disclosed. that would be of interest to congressional investigators into the mueller case. >> the idea the counselor sitting outside the restaurant complaining about other -- calling -- quote, a spy. does this seem crazy to you? >> well, it -- you know, given the current rules of professional conduct it raises some interesting questions. first of all, dowed the outside lawyer represents the president personally. the special counsel, tie cob, as well as mccan both respect the office of the president, that's who their client is. the only one that really has attorney-client privilege is dowed. so he is the one that apparently is asking for more be withheld as is -- >> mcbegan. >> tie cob. and mcgentleman is the one whose withholding. it's an interesting set of conflicts there given who they're client is. that's interesting john and jeff, this is right that tie cob represents the presidency. >> he works for the government. >> so president trump doesn't have the same kind of attorney-client privilege with him? >> that's right. one of the unresolved questions is what kind of attorney-client privilege government lawyers have with the president. it's clear dowed has a attorney-client privilege as a human being. how much can be protected within the government between don mccan and the president, between tie cob and the president, among those lawyers who work for the government, that's a complicated and unresolved question. and i think john dean is right, when the two lawyers speak, it's not exactly clear what the privilege is. what is clear, if you're talking loudly in a restaurant anyone with listen. >> would watergate have been easier if the attorneys and his partners would be yelling thing out at the "the washington post"? >> if we were there for breakfast and they were right there next to them. i think this is something important happening here and what we have seen in these arguments among lawyers, they're concerned about the vulnerability between the president and the united states. what these lawyers know, and dowed is the one who really counts because he is trump's lawyer, the others are not -- trump also has a real estate lawyer, allan gordon who is essential to this, prosecutors are looking at real estate and tax records and they are closing in on that aspect of trump and his organization, despite the fact trump has said this is a red line, what we're seeing here is first of all, it is now definite, definitive and i can say this with some authority. what intelligence community and donald trump, not under obama has found this evidence with runner interference on behalf of hickok was much more effective and farther advanced than has been thought earlier. so that dynamic is driving a -- what we're seeing in these investigations. >> helping hillary clinton you're saying? >> that the russians interference -- i'm sorry, pardon me. you're exactly right. was intended to hurt hillary clinton. i got it backwards there. yes, that that evidence is much stronger sin donald trump has become president, developed by the intelligence community and that's part of the dynamic here of the fact that they were trying to hurt her campaign here and get donald trump farther toward the warehouse. >> yeah. >> and then you also have one more element here and that is this question of obstruction of justice and possible pardons which is under discussion among people in the white house now. >> carl bernstein, john dean thank you very much. up next, the last thing this world need is hurricane maria. category 5 towards the same islands devastated from irma. we'll speak to someone riding out the hurricane in the caribbean. ♪ when food is good and clean and real, it's ok to crave. and with panera catering, there's more to go around. panera. food as it should be. so we sent that sample i doff to ancestry. i was from ethnically. my ancestry dna results are that i am 26% nigerian. i am just trying to learn as much as i can about my culture. i put the gele on my head and i looked into the mirror and i was trying not to cry. because it's a hat, but it's like the most important hat i've ever owned. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at ancestrydna.com. i needed something more to help control my type 2 diabetes. my a1c wasn't were it needed to be. so i liked when my doctor told me that i may reach my blood sugar and a1c goals by activating what's within me with once-weekly trulicity. trulicity is not insulin. it helps activate my body to do what it's suppose to do, release its own insulin. i take it once a week, and it works 24/7. it comes in an easy-to-use pen and i may even lose a little weight. trulicity is a once-weekly injectable prescription medicine to improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. trulicity is not insulin. it should not be the first medicine to treat diabetes, or for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. do not take trulicity if you or a family member has had medullary thyroid cancer, if you've had multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to trulicity. stop trulicity and call your doctor right away if you have a lump or swelling in your neck, severe pain in your stomach, or symptoms such as itching, rash, or trouble breathing. serious side effects may include pancreatitis, which can be fatal. taking trulicity with a sulfonylurea or insulin, increases your risk for low blood sugar. common side effects include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, decreased appetite and indigestion. some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may make existing kidney problems worse. once-weekly trulicity may help me reach my blood sugar goals. with trulicity, i click to activate what's within me. if you want help improving your a1c and blood sugar, activate your within. ask your doctor about once-weekly trulicity. no need with thending thcars.com app when on the lot, scan a vin to pull up all the info you need to help get the price you want. start scanning today. the governor of puerto rico is warning residents that hurricane maria is unlike anything the island has seen before, and the focus now is saving lives. hurricane maria is now a category 5. what do we know about this? 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