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nominated for president by a major political party will deliver her acceptance speech. this is the cofinale. the pressure could not be more intense. yes, she will feel the love from the throngs of democrats inside of that center. but will she change hearts outside more the millions who will be watching her. many here say her party could not have given her a better set-up, especially after the leader of the free world embraced her. what a moment and a speech from not just president obama last night, but also i'm referring to the hug that sealed the deal as he figuratively here passed the baton to the woman he hopes will become his successor. ♪ here i come baby ♪ signed sealed delivered i'm yours ♪ ♪ baby ♪ >> just like we saw in cleveland, last thursday with her rival, donald trump, hillary clinton will also showcase her daughter tonight. chelsea clinton will be the one introducing her mother. and the campaign says hillary clinton then will speak of her own experiences, her motivation, she'll also refer to her book, "it takes a village." that's a quote we've heard multiple times this week and bring in her slogan, stronger together. it is not clear how much hillary clinton will actually mention the "t" word, trump, donald trump. where the republican presidential nominee just got slammed by just about everyone else. even president obama weighing in in his speech last night calling on trump multiple times by name. but the vice president last night, joe biden, that got it all rolling. >> let me talk about something that i am deadly serious about. no major party nominee in the history of this nation has ever known less. >> how can there be pleasure in saying "you're fired"? he's trying to tell us he cares about the middle class? give me a break! that's a bunch of malarkey! he has no clue about what makes america great. actually, he has no clue, period. >> we're going to build a wall and make mechanics tow pxico pa. believe me. we're going to destroy isis so fast, believe me. there's nothing suspicious in my tax returns, believe me. >> our nation, it is just too great to put it in the hands of a slick-talking, empty-promising, self-promoting one-man wrecking crew. >> and then there's donald trump. don't boo. vote. cozies up to putin. praises saddam hussein. tells our nato allies that stood by our side after 9/11 that they have to pay up if they want our protection. well, america's promises do not come with a price tag. america is already great! america is already strong! and i promise you, our strength, our greatness, does not depend on donald trump. >> let's beret inring in a um if amazing voices. anita dunn, former white house communications director under president obama. next to her, trump supporter and republican strategist, boris epstein. brad woodhouse who served as communications director for the democratic national convention. and cnn national political reporter who's been zigzagging on the trail for months, maeve reston is here. anita, it is so nice to meet you and have you on. just beginning with, listen, wherever you fall, left, right, center, i just want to take a beat to appreciate you have the first african-american president essentially hugging, passing the proverbial baton on to who could be the first woman. >> and, brooke, it really is amazing when you think about kids who were born in 2004, 2005 who have grown up really seeing obama as their president, possibly followed by hillary clinton. let's say she gets re-elected. there is a 16-year span where they see an african-american president, a woman president, and america is going to be different. it is not clear how exactly but there is no turning back from this. >> maive, to you. president obama used humor as a device to say, listen, we didn't always get along, yes, she was my rival. talk about eight years ago. how bitter and difficult was it for them? >> well, let's all just remember that moment in the debate where he said "you're likable enough." right? >> i remember that very well. very well. very well. >> so i mean obviously that was a tough battle between the two of them. but they really have developed a mutual respect, an admiration over the years. in a recent interview they acknowledged they aren't bosom buddies, they don't go on vacation together. but certainly last night you could see a warmth. it was such a moment she came in and did what he asked her to do. now he's stepping in and doing what she needs done for her campaign. >> i thought it was -- just as bill clinton was telling the person story, i had asked her three different times to marry me just as president obama had asked multiple times, please be my secretary of state. the question i have, boris, it is so obvious to me, sort of, if you juxtapose the -- i don't know if you want to call it the more fearful picture or the darker picture, some adjectives people have used, to describe how the stage was set by the republicans and mr. trump last week, versus you could call it american exceptionalism but you could also call it not realistic. >> right. that's what i would call it. >> i wonder if the truth lies somewhere in between for a voter on november 8th -- >> 79% of americans feel this country's going in the wrong direction. the words coming out of barack obama's mouth last night did not represent those 79%. the words that were spoken by donald trump represent those voices. i'm sorry to break up this "kumbaya" rah rah moment, but the reality is the reason donald trump is leading not just nationally but in battlegrounds as well, ohio, pennsylvania, florida, is because americans agree with donald trump. they agree this country is in a bad place. it is in a bad place because of barack obama and because of hillary clinton. by the way, speaking of positivity, there wasn't much positivity from joe biden there or foreign minister tim kaine. for somebody so positive being willing to use attacks against donald trump. >> there was a bit at hillary clinton last week. >> what happens on our sides, there are screams and shouts, oh, republicans are so negative. when the democrats do it, i'm not hearing the same. >> i didn't see anybody suggesting that donald trump should be locked off. >> a con man? >> let's be clear here. you are live in an alternative rethe a if you think the 79% right track/wrong track is what's going to determine this election. in those numbers, a lot of people and those numbers think the country is on the wrong track because the republican party just nominated donald trump to be their nominee. that's -- time out. >> let him finish. >> that is one reason people think it is the wrong track. if you look at nate silver or others, they say the predictor for future success in an election is presidential approval. this president has an approval rating 30% higher than the last republican president had at this same time. >> listen, i was on the floor and i heard the chants about drones. i heard "no more war." it was not all popcorn and puppy dogs. >> if you want to quote nate silver, he says we're going to win. >> i'm listening to these guys. they both have some truth in what they're saying. but the reality is that we're not going to have a sense of where this election is until a couple of weeks after these conventions. there is no doubt donald trump got a bump from his convention last week. those of us who watched it heard democrats really don't understand that. but boris is right, there are definitely voters out there responding to that. but we're having a great convention here. tonight hillary clinton needs to close the deal with american voters. >> her likability, her trustworthiness. i know you don't want to hear me say this, it's not so great. >> but she's had three days of people spokeni ispeaking of her character and public service. she needs to come in and this needs to be a "yes, she can" moment. >> to both of their points, there are so many people that we talk to out there on the campaign trail that do not like either candidate at all and are fully plugged in to the election, paying attention, polls show us this, but do not feel comfortable with donald trump, don't know who he is going to surround himself with. then have trust issues with hillary clinton. the big question after these two conventions is where will those people be. will they be energized. will they respond more to the donald trump message of last week, tapping into that anxiety, or the positivity of this week's convention. i think that's fascinating. >> let me throw another voice in. harry reid so is critical, was talking to our hill go-to guy. listen to what harry reid said. boris, i want you to respond. >> it's obvious that he doesn't know what he's talking about. it's obvious he can't control his mind or his tongue. and what i've suggested, if now because he's the nominee for the party, and he's entitled to briefings from the cia, for example, he said publicly, gave him fake briefings. pretend you're briefing him. don't tell him anything that you don't want to get out. that's how i feel about it. i think that the man is a loose cannon. i think he's done so much to hurt our country with our international relations already. >> but as a republican nominee, isn't he entitled to get those briefings? >> give him fake briefings. >> what does that even mean? >> it means they'll tell him stuff. he won't know the difference. >> you're basically telling the intelligence community to lie to him. >> no. i am not going to lie to you. that's why i tell you everything. >> boris, then anita. >> sure, more personal attacks. of course harry reid who is a life-long way left liberal is going to be negative against donald trump. the stake harry reid is from voted for donald trump. as you look across the liberal spectrum, of course these voices are coming out and being very negative. again not a lot of positivity there and using personal attacks against someone in donald trump who is a life-long success -- >> he was success is espionage. >> he was not. he was saying if anyone out there be including any folks here or anyunelse have those 33 e-mails supposedly about yoga. but we're not children, we don't believe that. >> you folks are really good at telling us what donald trump actually meant instead of us being able to talk about what he actually said. he said that the russians should spy -- he said the russians should spy on hillary clinton. >> he did not say that. >> he did say that. >> verbatim? >> he's suggesting espionage against a political opponent. he suggested the russians should influence our elections. you have no understanding in saying that's okay. >> she has the e-mails. right? >> i'm suggesting that he shouldn't be asking the russians to interfere in a political election. >> yhe was saying if someone ha the e-mails, you should turn them over. >> if only mr. trump were here and you could fully explain. >> he did send tweets out. >> i just wanted to say, boris, three weeks ago you had people in your party who were arguing that hillary clinton shouldn't be given classified briefings. i think the outrage here, the faux outrage is a little too much today. the reality is that donald trump on any given day is capable of saying things that are national security concerns for any of our allies around the globe. i believe quite recently he suggested defunding nato. which is one of our oldest, most important alliances that's helped keep peace in the world. i think that one of the concerns voters have -- and frankly, it is a very valid concern -- is whether or not -- not just weather donald trump has the experience to be commander in chief, but whether he actually has any interest in learning the issues about being commander in chief. harry reid's comments probably go to this concern of whether he can be trusted with this kind of information. we all know he is the nominee of this party. he will get these briefings. okay? but the reality of the situation is, he has shown no interest in even learning the minimal amount about foreign policy that a presidential candidate should know in order to run. >> debate rules, may i respond? >> 20 seconds. >> first on the briefings, the reason clinton shouldn't be getting them is because she was proven to be violating rules, regulations and laws with her private server. she's already endangered americans and american lives. donald trump absolutely knows our issues. the whole transcript said that he wants to support our allies but if they do not pay their share. >> here's the thing. it's not a real estate deal, boris. >> it's business. >> it's not a real estate deal. it is absolutely different. >> boris, anita, brad, maeve, let's continue in the commercial break as we have all week long. thank all so much. expectations sky-high for hillary clinton's speech this evening. right? this is what we are all looking for. we have new details about what she will say and we will show you her convention moments since 167 19 6 1966. after donald trump says he asked russia to hack hillary clinton's e-mails. he says he was being sarcastic. we'll dig deeper into that. i'm brooke baldwin in philadelphia. cnn's special coverage of the democratic national convention continues in a flash. you both have a perfect driving record. perfect. no tickets, no accidents... that is until one of you clips a food truck, ruining your perfect record. yeah. now, you would think your insurance company would cut you some slack, right? 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[ cheers and applause ] >> i visited ground zero the day after we were attacked and i felt like i was standing at the gates of hell. and yet that tragedy, both changed and challenged us. i know it did for me. >> to my supporters, to my champions, to my sisterhood of the traveling pants suits -- [ cheers and applause ] -- from the bottom of my heart, thank you. >> let's talk to two people who have been on the trail with hillary clinton since she first announced she was running for president. jeff zeleny, cnn senior washington correspondent, and brie nana kieler, cnn senior political koert, many of whom have logged many miles in the snow and hopefully frequent flyer miles covering this woman who is now the first major party ticket, female nominee. first to tonight, brianna. you've interviewed her. what should the world expect? >> i think tonight for her is about contrast. and so she and those around her looked at last week with donald trump and they felt like this was a very dark and stormy picture of america that he painted. so she is going to try to come up with something more optimistic. >> like obama. >> like he did. he really previewed that for her. that's one thing. the other thing is without maybe na naming names, we've seen her approach the criticism of donald trump in two days, just outright say his name, says his words, or to allude to him. we'll see that criticism. she also needs to acknowledge this divide within the party. we've seen it on full display here at the convention and she really has to address that. >> i think you are right about the divide in the party. president obama, that was one of his many take-away messages, was unite behind her, she needs you to carry her, like you carried me. i think she needs to ask. she needs to ask some of these bernie sanders supporters to carry her and make this -- she says stronger together. say that she needs them. >> like she's more humble about it, in a way? >> yeah. i think to expect them to come along, we've heard the boos and yelling in there. but the reality here is i think that she -- my biggest question is will she own up to any flaws or shortcomings. you know better than anyone she has evolved in her e-mail thing, accepting responsibility, blaming others for unfair standards. how is she going to protest tonight? i think otherwise, present trump as an unacceptable, dangerous choice, and she's tough. that's what i think tonight is what she has to do. >> so humility. the ask. accept the divide. what about just looking back on the last year? i remember hanging out with you for the fourth of july weekend last year. >> you were there when i -- >> i was there when you got the interview with hillary clinton. i was like see you later, i'm going to new york. i'll be watching.her, you pusher on e-mails then. is there a contrast from the woman sitting across from you a year ago? >> i have not been covering her zips she declared. i started covering her more than a year before that. assuming she did declare, if she didn't i made a really bad decision. but in the end, she ran. what really struck me was kind of gearing up for her to declare and then was it just the month before -- a few weeks after she ended up declaring the e-mail thing came out. that was when we first realized. i think about that as the original sin of her campaign. it is the thing that has colored so much of it. trust has been a big issue for her. it was an issue for her the people had going back to the clinton years in the white house that she was going to struggle with anyways. that just sort of fed into it. that's the thing that really strikes me. that july a year ago when i asked her about it, her answers, a lot of people looking at her answers about the e-mail were sort of unsatisfactory. she's had to really stick to that, i did it for convenience, i wouldn't do it again. but i think a lot of people maybe don't take her at her word for that and she's still kind of stuck saying that. and that has been just such an uphill battle for her this entire time. >> it is how she addresses that. finally to you, folks have said she's strongest when she talks about i'm hillary clinton, the mother and the grandmother. how much of that hillary clinton will we hear? >> we'll see some but she'll be introduced by chelsea so she'll handle some of that. we've heard a lot of the biography already. i'm struck by the contrasts that she did not expect a year ago when you were sitting with her to be running against donald trump. that's the surprise. it's a different race. the amazing tapestry of speeches from '96 forward, we think that she's done everything before, she hasn't done this tonight. she's not stood before this convention and say "i accept this nomination to be your presidential candidate." this is a new moment. >> it is a great point. she is going to follow this for decades. >> this is her standing alone leading the way here. i think the biggest contrast is who she's running against. this is going to bring out the fighter in her. everything that has developed her up to this point she needs. we do not know the end of this story. >> we don't. >> for anyone who thinks that donald trump couldn't possibly win or, oh, she's too sort of a dislike to win, they're both wrong. reality is very divided country so starting tomorrow this is a story where we don't know the ending of and everything that she has prepared for her whole life. we'll see how it ends. she's not very nimble, as you know. this has thrown her off script a little bit. she wasn't planning to run against donald trump. she thought she'd run against jeb bush or maybe marco rubio. >> you said she is a fighter. the take-away for me is, if this is a fight, this is a war -- the beginning was conventional warfare and now you're in basically political guerrilla warfare and we don't know the outcome. >> amazing job, brianna keilar, jeff zeleny. no one knows the ending. aggressive counterprogramming from team trump urging his supporters not to watch the convention tonight. do not turn on hillary clinton's speech. what's that about? 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>> of course i'm being sarcastic. but you have 33,000 e-mails deleted. the real problem is what was said on those e-mails from the democratic national committee. >> all right. here is what he said just hours before that. >> russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. >> let's talk it over with paul rikopf, iava. i bumped into you in cleveland last week taking in the republican side of things. here you are in cleveland taking in the democratic side of things. here you are, non-partisan. >> the commander in chief is a sacred, critical role and sometimes gets lost in the political debate you're going to command for than 2 million people in the military. we want to make sure candidates are talking to those people. people are watching from iraq and afghanistan and 22 million veterans. they are not a voting bloc but they are a very diverse, influential voting group. a lot of them are independent and they're going to be listening closely to hillary clinton tonight and they're watching everything trump does to see who is going to be our commander in chief and who is going to take care of us when we get home. we are non-partisan. we want to make sure they're not just using us as political props. >> you know this and you call them out on it, for sure. so on the issue though of terror an all these different terror attacks, let me just tale you, james comey, director of the fbi, essentially said the defeat of isis will send the terrorists diaspera to the united states meaning that could increase any terror attacks right here in the u.s. how do you see that and how would that affect our -- >> that's what we've been preparing for. we've been at war in the military for 15 years. rest of america has kind of been living life uninterrupted. >> do you think that's even accurate? >> i think we are preparing for a new normal and that probably means regular attacks around the world. it could mean regular attacks here. for us i hope it underscores for everybody the risk our military takes on every single day. this is what they've been dealing with for 15 years and their families have been dealing with it for 15 years. they're not just in iraq and afghanistan. they're on your bridges, in your tunnels. they're helpers, first responders. they're going to be there. we want to hear from both parties, commander in chief and everybody down the ticket how are you going to take care of those folks and things like the va that's going to take care of them when they come home that we know has had so many problems. >> medal of honor recipient speaking tonight. but also, last week i was really moved by marcus luttrell speaking for donald trump. you listen to both of these guys who are absolutely outstanding. not as a vn beteran but as an american, you've moved by both. >> there is a silver lining of 15 years of war is there is an incredible generation of young leaders. they're rising and ready to leave. tonight flo goldberg, medal of honor recipient will be in prime time. both are incredibly effective, moving, patriotic people who tend to put patriotism above party. flo was tweeting it he's watching "star trek" by himself in a suit. getting ready. a humble guy. incredible american story. marcus and flo would probably get more votes if they ran for president than either one of these candidates. >> thanks. next a life-long republican will join me live. republicans speaking on the stage of the dnc. you heard it right. sort of swallowing his pride saying he will vote for hillary clinton. the first time he's voted a dem in his life. why? let's ask. tonight, a moment in history. hillary clinton, the first woman ever to be nominated for president by a major party. lot of people pointing out, you think about little girls across the country and really around the world waking up today and thinking about what this might mean for her or her future, her goals. whether you are left, right or somewhere in between, it does set a long-awaited precedent. one woman is reminding us that hillary clinton is standing upon the shoulders of generations who came before her, mayor lovely warren, the first woman to serve as mayor of rochester, new york, placed this sign in her city at at grave of susan b. anthony. she was, of course, a crusader for rimwoman's rights, and abov all, the right to vote. "dear susan b., we thought you might like to know that for first time in history a woman is running for president representing a major party. 144 years ago, your illegal vote got you arrested. it took another 48 years for women to finally gain the right to vote. thank you for paving the way." mayor warren joins me. also with us, doug almet, also focusing on the significance of this moment. he is actually a republican, served in the reagan administration, and he is speaking tonight at the dnc. so tonight is special for two very different reasons. so nice to meet both of you. >> thank you for having us. >> ladies first, let me just ask you. what propelled you to put this sign next to her grave and what kind of -- what have people written on it? >> well, we just put it up on tuesday after -- on the day that we cast our vote. i cast my vote as a delegate. for me, it was really about the fact that i have a daughter, 6-year-old daughter, and may grandmother instilled in me that we always had to pay it forward, that we always never had to forrer go et where we came from. susan b. arnthony paved the way for me to become the first female mayor in rochester. and also hillary clinton the designated candidate for the democrats. also it is my sign sear hope that she will be the next president of the united states. and the first female. i think that that's so very, very important for all of us. >> your 6-year-old daughter. does she understand what's happening? does she understand why mom has to be in philadelphia? >> we with be she does. i take her with me to different events in our community because i want her to understand what public service is really all about, the sacrifices of people that came before us, people like susan b. ant honanthony, the fa some were share croppers and allowed me to be the first attorney in my family and first politician in my family as well. coming up in exweek, my little cousin will be the first doctor getting his white coat. >> my goodness! >> your family! >> from share croppers to that. how about that. to you, sir, you are an "r" in a sea of "ds." you're like a unicorn around these parts. you first voted for ronald reagan. the first time in 40 years you are voting for a democrat. why? >> when one looks at the options, the options are clear. hillary clinton is more prepared to be president than probably anybody in a generation. compared to ronald reagan who, frankly, i believe is a petulant, unbalanced reality tv star -- >> donald trump. >> donald trump. there's no question about it. >> before tonight -- you'll be speaking to everyone -- were you walking around with your republican friends saying, i'm voting for hillary? >> that's the reality. the reality is that there are many republican friends i have to believe that it is party over country, that they're willing to really go to the grave with that orthodoxy. i just don't buy in to that. i think that at this point in history, we have two options and hillary clinton is the best of the two. >> we're just watching on the other side of the screen, carole king, she's rehearsing, she's performing as well. is it just because it is trump? because a lot of people i'm wondering are just going to sit this one out. republicans who just can't check that box for him but can't check the box for hillary clinton either. >> well, i candidly think that hillary clinton is well qualified to be the ambassador to the world, for the united states, and really to our children as well. my hope is that i will be able to convince other republicans that it's okay. even if they aren't willing to get out in front like i am, that it's okay to support hillary clinton because in reality, her positions are much closer to many of the republican party positions than donald trump's are. frankly, the republican party has been hijacked by donald trump. it's become the really party of trump. when one looks at the platform from the republican party last week, you've got to be astonished by the anti-gay, anti-immigra anti-immigrant, anti-women positions. those are positions that the american people hold. >> doug and lovely, thank you so much. we'll look for you on the big stage tonight. thank you so much. next here, legendary grammy winning r&b star, producer, writer, baby face. he co-wrote a special song for the hillary clinton campaign that they are rolling out. we'll talk to him live next. you pay your car insurance premium like clockwork. month after month. year after year. then one night, you hydroplane into a ditch. yeah... surprise... your insurance company tells you to pay up again. why pay for insurance if you have to pay even more for using it? 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>> i am wonderful. let me just ask you, how did this song to be? >> a friend of mine, carol sager daley, gave me a call. she was contacted by bruce robertson. he had this song, this idea and wanted to get together and write this song for hillary. needed a song to support that slogan, stronger together. so something to connect it and we at the last minute kind of put it together and got it in just in time. >> when will we hear it? will it be tonight? >> i think it's going to play tonight actually. that's my report. carol and bob are telling me at this point. >> i know you have a long history with hillary clinton having performed at a previous campaign rally for her. how far back does your relationship with the clinton family go? >> i probably met -- i met bill clinton in 1995. goes back that far. i did a number of things with the president, and also worked with hillary as well. worked with her on saving the music project as well. i've always been doing things in and out with them through the years. >> i was talking to deejay jazzy jeff, as in fresh prince, talking about the unifier it can be in politics, and donald trump has played a bunch of music, "we are the champions," queen, and queen saying, please don't play our song. if donald trump were to play one of your songs at his rally, what would you say? >> well, if it was a song that was bringing people together, then that's another thing. that's the reason why we wrote the song, "stronger together." we're more interested in bringing people together, not dividing anyone. music is supposed to do just that. it is not supposed to be political or thanything. it is just supposed to bring people together. >> final question, kenny. as a producer, from a production standpoint, incredible speeches that brought the house down with the first lady monday night, bill clinton, the president last night. joe biden, the vice president. what would you do tonight with hillary clinton? >> i think hillary just has to be herself. i think that's the whole thing. everybody -- the whole week everybody's been talking about who she is. tonight she can be completely who she is and i think people are going to love her for just that. she just needs to be honest with who she is and i think she's going to be exactly that and she's going to do amazing. >> we'll listen for your song at the big final night tonight, night number four, "stronger together." kenny, thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up next -- aggressive counterprogramming from team trump urging his supporters -- do not watch. final night of the democratic national convention. turn away from hillary clinton's speech. why? is it really all about ratings? brian stelter has the numbers next. all right. donald trump. he's doing some aggress of counterprogramming against the dnc tonight. he is urging people do not watch this final night here. this is the four-day event, continues to defy trump's tradition that it would be a ratings loser. brian stelter, it is so fascinating, sort of the numbers and how many more people are watching this week. why do you think? >> let me tell you two facts. you tell me if they're related. one, the democrats are outrating the republicans, three nights in a row. number two, donald trump says you shouldn't watch tonight. says you shouldn't watch hillary's speech. he said unless you want to be belittled, don't tune in for hillary clinton's speech at the dnc. instead, donate money to my campaign. that was his campaign e-mail. a lot of people interpreted that to mean he's a little bit anxious about these ratings. >> he's a ratings guy. >> he studies these numbers like nobody else. yet the democrats are beating the republicans by a few million viewers a night which is significant. 10%, 15%, partly because there's so much star power on stage, partly because it is better to go second than first, they get the rebuttal. and they're going later at night, until 11:30, 11:45. lot of reasons why. but it is interesting to see the ratings race. does it mean it affects november. we've seen in the past, democratic conventions rate higher, then republicans win, visa versa. even though it is interesting trump isn't doing quite as well as the democrats, might not mean as much in a few months. >> brian stelter, thank you very much. let's continue on. top of the hour here. i'm brooke baldwin live in the city of -- we'll call it the city of firsts right now, city of philadelphia, our nation's first capital will live up to its legacy tonight as the first woman nominated for president by a may vjor political party will deliver her acceptance speech. this is the finale of the democratic national convention. even for hillary clinton who has spoken on the senate floor and at the united nations, the pressure could not be more intense. sure, she will feel, i'm sure, much love inside of the convention. you should just hear the roars for these different people on stage. but the question is will she actually change the hearts who are not in the room, who are outside, to the millions of people watching on tv or online. many here say her party could not have given her a better set-up, especially after the leader of the free world truly embraced her. i'm not only talking about president obama's speech last evening, i'm also referring to the hug, the embrace that sealed the deal as he passed the proverbial baton on to the woman who clearly, he hopes, will be his successor. ♪ here i am baby signed sealed delivered i'm yours ♪ ♪ baby ♪ oh baby ♪ ♪ ooh baby here i am signed sealed delivered ♪ >> just keep in mind, this week it was ivanka trump who did an amazing job introducing her own father. we'll be introducing from chelsea clinton who will be introducing her mother to millions. campaign says hillary clinton will then speak of her experiences, her motivations, she'll also refer to her book, the famous line that so many people have referenced this week, "it takes a village," and bring in her slogan, "stronger together." when president obama did though pass that proverbial baton on to hillary clinton last night, the nation's 44th commander in chief did so with a 44-minute serenade. he celebrated her skills. he celebrated her experience and he slammed her rival, donald trump. hard. also, the president explained why he cherishes the nation he was honored to lead. >> i can say with confidence, there has never been a man or a woman, not me, not bill, nobody, more qualified than hillary clinton to serve as president of the united states of america. >> and then there's donald trump. don't boo. vote. the donald is not really a "plans" guy. he's not really a "facts" guy either. he calls himself a business guy, which is true. but i have to say, i know plenty of businessmen and women who achieved remarkable success without leaving a trail of lawsuits and unpaid workers and people feeling like they got cheated. and now i'm ready to pass the baton and do my part as a private citizen. so this year, in this election, i'm asking you to join me, to reject cynicism and reject fear, and to summon what is best in us to let hillary clinton have the next president of the united states and show the world we still believe in the promise of this great nation. >> all right. with me now, kaley mcnirny, david springer, david gergen, and senior political correspondent for mtv news, anna marie cox. happy fourth day of the dnc, everyone. can we just begin with that moment last night? i don't know how many of you were on the floor and just sort of hearing it and feeling the president speaking, then suddenly i heard this like cacophonous cry and it was hillary clinton walking out. and that embrace and the hands. >> i actually couldn't make it on the floor. it was packed. >> it was. i snuck in just in time. >> i heard you could barely hear her obama, roars of crowd were so loud. but i want to say about that embrace. you know what? everyone can probably remember if you're a political junkie, their first embrace in 2008 -- >> not so warm and fuzzy. >> there was always a little awkwardness there. >> i think that embrace is obviously symbolic. their policies have come closer together and i think the families, the two families, have actually become closer. i think we are looking at genuine respect and friendship right now. >> david gergen, just to note history there, the first african-american president and the first pro tensionally female. >> sure. and history sort of joining forces there last night. one had a sense that that hasn't -- i don't think she's fully taken it in yet, jerry springer and i were talking about this yet earlier, magnitude of what she's doing. but i want to come back to the importance of what -- my intuition is what you saw with hillary last night is a woman who is unusually grateful to this man who had britaeen a riv. there was an adoring look. i could point out that in the last two days she's had barack obama and tim kaine and for the first time she has male partners and she is really affectionate towards both. tonight she may try to change the hearts of america, but i think we may see a softening of her hard which would make a difference in her as a candidate and frankly in her as a president. she's always been number two. and all the men who have been in her life, except for her husband, have been like staff. she has some friends. but this is the first time she has two really important partners to go through. i think it's given her an inner sense of relief or just joy. there was something about that moment last night that you could see it? jerry springer, jump in. also pivoting off of that, what do you want to hear tonight? what do you think she'll say? >> i don't think the words are going to be that important, frankly. i think it is the moment. >> the feeling. >> 30 years from now, it's the optics that people are going to remember. and i think the life that she has lived in fighting for women's causes, and what she really believes in, all of a sudden now, a woman could be president of the united states. and i think watching her suddenly it's there and what she's accomplished, i almost don't want to mess politics with this moment. you know? if you have a daughter, if you're a young woman, this is magical, as it was in '08 with barack obama. put the politics aside just for a second and this is a wonderful moment for america. and i'm going to enjoy the night. then afterwards we can debate what the issue us are because i don't think this election is going to be about issues. i think this election is a referendum on donald trump. >> it would be about issues if donald trump had any policies to talk about but he's made it about a personality. he's made it about him. i was thinking about the optics of this. >> let me, to be fair, i want to hear from you before -- in just a second. let me add another voice, this is harry reid. he said this today to our capitol hill correspondent. >> it's obvious that he doesn't know what he's talking about. it's obvious he can't control his mind or his tongue. and what i suggested, if now because he's the nominee for the party, and he is entitled to briefings from the cia, for example, i said publicly, give him fake briefings. pretend you're briefing him. don't tell him anything that you don't want to get out. that's how i feel about it. i think that the man is a loose cannon. i think he's done so much to hurt our country with our -- in our international relations already. >> but as a republican nominee, isn't he entitled to get those briefings? >> give him fake briefings. >> what does that even mean? >> it means they'll tell him stuff. he won't know the difference. >> you're basically telling the intelligence community to lie to him. >> no. i'm not going to lie to you. i'm just not going to tell you everything. he's being donald. donald trump can't control his mouth. can't control his brain. he's proven that time after time. >> so mayor bloomberg last night questioned his sanity. he's saying, he's dumb. >> we saw the number of times hillary clinton's name was mentioned bears that out. there's also an effort to lift up hillary clinton and she deserves credit for the history she's made. but something that's neglected, the reality of the american citizen, this isn't politics. reality of the american citizen sitting at home, 73% of people think we are in the wrong direction. they look around and when the president tells there is no violence and chaos which is what he said friday, there is no violence and chaos. let me finish because i let you finish. when he says the economic reality is good, people don't see that when premiums with are their top financial concern when 6.4 million americans are on poverty, 11 million more are on food stamps. american american people are hurting. numbers bear that out and to not recognize it -- >> numbers on crime haven't been exaggerated by the republicans because they don't talk about the numbers because the numbers would not agree with them. twice as many americans unfortunately die from suicide than murder. there is a problem in this country with violence. there is a problem in this country with gun violence specifically. but it is not people shooting each other. >> can we go back to what's at hand here and the harry reid comment? >> yes. >> i don't bear, as you well know, a great love for donald trump but i think he is entitled to these hearings. he may become president one day. >> the notion of receiving fake -- >> i think sometimes he's been reckless. the idea of having fake briefings is ridiculous. on its face. because he has said things i consider reckless but i am not aware of any national security secrets that he's spilled. there is no reason to believe that he's going to do that. and very importantly, if he's going to be president, we all know this is going to be a close race. so if that's the case, we need a president who comes in informed. >> well, think there is a middle ground. i agree with you. can't give him fake briefings. that's childish. that's absurd. i really don't agree. i don't think they ought to be giving in this election -- i think the briefings ought to come the day after the election. you still have until january 20th. so -- because right now i think it is a fair question to say, particularly when you saw this week, russia, go ahead, hack our system. >> you said he was being sarcastic. he did. >> i think he's been a little bit irresponsible. we can't risk it. maybe i'm wrong, maybe i'm right. let's not start giving him national secrets, nuclear codes, stuff like that, before we know he's actually the president. that's scary. >> with all due respect, in 1960, john kennedy got national security briefings and he learned in the security briefings things that he was saying on the trail were not true, that we were in some sort of big nuclear disadvantage. but we went ahead with the briefings. that was the right thing to do. even though what the people were telling him in private that was really going on. i imagine that may be true with trump. that there will be things he'll keep going down the same road he's going down. maybe he'll moderate or not. this is a tradition and i think to break that tradition and to start making choices -- >> you can't make that chepg exception. >> i'm actually for giving him these briefings because i don't think he understands the job of the president. at all. so in the case someone can brief him, that he's a president, not a king, that he can't just build a washington and make someone else pay for it. how a bill becomes a law, for instance, might be proper. >> that's being a little pejorative. >> that is being a little pejorative. we talk a lot about hillary's qualifications and people make out donald trump to be a buffoon. but hillary clinton, there are real questions about the successes she's had in government or the lack thereof. she has job titles, there a he no you the do about that. when you look across the middle east and libya, isis taking over, syria, egypt is in chaos some would say, there is a lot to be said about her record. i think the democrats need to point out successes. i've heard very few. i heard about a cease-fire but that's about it. >> thank you all. the full spectrum represented here. coming up here, she grew up in the political spotlight. but tonight chelsea clinton introduces her mother as the presidential nominee. how is she preparing for the biggest speech of her life, and do the performances by trump's children, the speeches, the moments at the republican convention add to some of the pressure here in philadelphia? 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and that embrace, that -- he physically brought himself back, the hero returns, you remember him, that skinny kid, 12 years ago, he comes back, he's a man, he's been able to accomplish his great deeds, and now he's literally passing all that love and admiration to another leader. and it was visceral. there were goosebumps. there were tears. and that could have happened 10,000 years ago. that ceremonial ritual of power and pageantry. you got to be here. you got to watch this stuff. those big nights. i appreciate it. >> you felt it. but also not to rain on the goosebumps, i am wondering, looking at you, this whole passing of the proverbial baton, third term, how risky is it for her? >> it is an uphill climb to go to the country and ask for a third term. clinton campaign would say we're not asking for a third term, we're ask is fog her first term. but to do three terms in a row, the same party, somebody who's in his cabinet, that's a big ask of the country. and no doubt they know that. that image last night, the thing so striking to me, i don't think i've ever seen hillary clinton express appreciation -- not that she's an ungrateful person. >> humility is a word i heard before. >> she looked so appreciative of barack obama. this person took the slings and arrows of being in public life all tile. she genuinely looked like, wow, you had my back. someone actually stood up and defended me in this very big way. you just saw that in a way that i had just never seen on her before. >> and that kind of -- just being seen. i think she's somebody who is seen but doesn't feel seen. i think she felt seen last night. >> six drafts. this is what we have on the president's speech. six drafts. apparently monday night when his wife dominated that arena. he stayed up until like 3:30 in the morning really working on his. and he practiced it once in the map room of the white house. you know the man. are you surprised by all of that? >> you know, the rehearsal at this point he doesn't need a lot of rehearsal. but i tell you what, he is so competitive. >> was he watching his wife like, all right, michelle! >> i'm not claiming that. i haven't talked to him. i am just saying you know how competitive he is, how he loves those big moments. then all of a sudden before he gets his hands on the ball, she does a 360 slam dunk, then does a dance and walks off? he's got to raise his game. >> watching the vice president walk out, seeing what looked to me tears in his eyes when he started talking about eight years ago it was his son, beau, who had put his name in the nomination. what about his speech struck you? >> well, one, a really storied, long and emotional career throughout all of his time in washington coming to a close. so there is a victory quality to what he did. but from a political point here, he -- remember, the event with hillary clinton when he was supposed to go out and endorse her, that got canceled due to terrible news. i think it was dallas that caused him to cancel. so we haven't seen him do his validation of hillary clinton. so that was the first time we actually saw that. he took that right to the working class economic lunch pail voter out there. i feel like he was injecting strength into the room as best he could for the fall campaign ahead. >> how does she do tonight? 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>> you see this woman who's grown up in front of our own eyes. i think for tonight's speech inevitably there will be a comparison made between chelsea clinton and ivanka trump given that they're both serving the same roles, giving the introduction to their parents tonight. but clinton campaign has been very clear that tonight's address by chelsea clinton will not be policy focused. they say she's going to be talking about being raised under the spotlight and the values that her mom gave to her. from a shy teenager growing up in the glare of the political spotlight, to hesitant campaigner in 2008. chelsea clinton is now fully embracing her pivotal role in her mother's path to the white house. >> i couldn't imagine a better grandmother for my children than my mom. but i couldn't imagine a better president for any of our children or grandchildren than my mom. >> reporter: the 36-year-old mother of two will play a starring role tonight introducing her mother moments before she officially accepts the nomination. >> well, i hope to convey even just a small sense of why i am so proud and grateful to be her daughter. >> reporter: aides to chelsea tell cnn she's taking this speech more seriously than any speech she's given before spending weeks writing it with her mother's speech writer an rehearsing it with her husband. >> i'm going to talk as her daughter. i'm an only child and that's a unique position i'm in. i hope people understand a little bit more when i'm done than when i started about why i love her so much and why i admire her so much. >> reporter: the latest sign chelsea's taking on a more visible role in the campaign. >> i think this is the most important presidential election in my lifetime. >> reporter: having crisscrossed the country during the primary. >> my mom has been fighting for, making progress on issues that really matter to me. >> reporter: as she makes the case for her mother, she's also gone on the offensive. >> i think it is important that all of us who don't feel like mr. trump's rhetoric of sexism and racism and islamophobia and anti-immigrant hatred and stance has no place in our country. >> reporter: challenging her friend ivanka trump to defend her father's positions. >> he will fight for equal pay for equal work. >> reporter: how would your father do that? given its a he not something he's spoken about. there are no policies on any of those fronts that you just mentioned on his website. not last week. not this week. >> reporter: even as she stay focused on her mother's campaign, questions persist about her own potential political future. >> i understand why people ask me that question. my last name's clinton. my dad was president, as you remember. my mom is running to be president. >> reporter: not shutting the door on that possibility. >> i then would have to think, could i make a real difference here, is this something i should do. but for now, i'm well represented and i love what i do. >> sunlen's going to stay with us. carl bernstein, youauthor of "a woman in charge, the life of hillary rodham clinton." is there anyone better to introduce her than her daughter? >> in this appropriate scene, chelsea clinton is the right person. i also think we are overdo this idea of children of candidates introducing their parents. i'm not sure how lasting of an impact it has and we can't expect either the trump children or chelsea to come out and savage their parents. i think let's get on with it. at the risk of being cynical. >> but to get on with it, if i may, let's all remember back to a younger, maybe a tad more awkward chelsea clinton who we watched grow up. we were just talking as i was watching her piece, once upon a time there was a kiddie scholastic reporter trying to get chelsea clinton to talk years ago. >> the story behind that is that hilla hillary, before she went into the white house and sat down with jackie kennedy. jackie kennedy said i have one piece of advice for you. it's in the book. that is to protect your daughter from the press, to protect her from the bubble, and she have as ordinary a life as possible. and she took that advice and hillary's very successful at saying to the press, look. this is off-limits. at school. and it's been a precedent, really it was established in new york when jackie kennedy went back with her own children and the president did give her -- >> i hear you. yes. you have to protect your children but you know the story. tell the story of when this kid reporter is approaching chelsea. >> in 2000, i think it was a 12-year-old reporter who just asked chelsea a questio, she says typically i don't take questions from press. the undertone of -- it was probably this softball question from a young inspired journalist. and she could have just had a little bantering with him but that didn't happen. that's something from the 2008 campaign trail when i was out i observed of course from chelsea, too. i think this is a challenge of her role, if she's out campaigning for her mother, that this -- she is going to have to take some questions. we've seen her grow into that role now in this campaign in 2016. she held a press gavel in indianapolis. something we would never see her do before. to me the most remarkable evolution of chelsea clinton is seeing her really go and attack donald trump by name. not just be there softening her mom's image, but also going one step farther and becoming somewhat of an attack dog. >> what is the moment that you think chelsea clinton will highlight as she introduces her mother? >> i don't know. i think she's going to talk about her mother in terms of being this hands-on parent who has nurtured and developed her daughter. but let's wait and see. >> what about -- i think of ivanka trump who did a bang-up job i thought in her speech last week. people were saying she almost sounds like she's at the dnc, not the rnc. she is a phenomenal young woman. a lot of people are looking to her as, all right, that's trump's beautiful daughter. do you think it is possible that some of the kids though could outshine? >> no. again, i don't want to be cynical, but i also think -- >> you're a journalist, carl! you can be cynical. >> i'm not a cynical journalist. i think we can make too much of these moments with the children. i think there is a scorched earth campaign going on, as i've compared it to gettysburg. it is the seminal battle in the culture wars and whoever wins, this country will be affected until maybe the end of the century. 100 years. who knows. what we've seen at this convention is happily for hillary clinton that finally the mythology of donald trump established in cleveland has been deconstructed, partly by mike bloomberg. there is a pivotal moment in this convention and that is when a republican mayor of new york city who has known donald trump for a quarter century gets up and questions his sanity, we have never had a candidate for president of the united states about whom there has been a question raised about sanity. and it is the undercurrent of a lot of what has been going on and said in both the republican party and the democratic party. so we need to look at where we are and we also have this distrust factor about hillary clinton with an even greater distrust factor that's developing about donald trump. hillary clinton, if she gets up tonight, she's had the greatest surrogates, a great convention. her husband, cory booker, michelle obama. if she can get up today and plead her own case, including with some humility about her mistakes, particularly regarding national security and the server. but it is a big order and she's still got a lot of flak being thrown at her because of the server. but trump has indeed stepped into something with the server. >> it is anyone's guess who could win this in november. carl and sunlen, thank you so much. no one knows how the story will end. just in to cnn, the director of national intelligence, claja clapper, telling cnn's jim sciutto he is not willing to place blame on who is responsible for the dnc e-mail hack. clapper says the reaction to the incident is actually somewhat overblown. we have more on that coming up. next, it was a powerful moment on the dnc stage. >> si se puede. si se puede. si se puede. >> the presumptive vice presidential nominee tim kaine using spanish to make the case to latino voters. could it work come november? 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>> i was so nervous. i am the broadway singer ever in the history of broadway. i went over after my performance, i went down to the new york delegates and i went over to the council speaker melissa and public advocate tish james and mayor de blasio was there. he said, rosie, you did so well. you were beautiful. you sang beautifully. i said stop it right now. >> i was in the arena. people were on their feet. it was a moment. >> it was a grand moment. regardless that i surrounded like i was tone-deaf, i will never forget that experience. i will never regret that experience. that was a tremendous moment of coming together with love in the spirit of love and for all the victims of orlando and their families and all the victims of people who have died because of these senseless gun shootings, and that's what really it was about. my heart was in tune. >> how did a gal who grew up in brooklyn, in bushwick, who had a tough childhood. you've written about it. not a ton of money. abuse. here you are. and with so involved, so active politically. how did that happen? >> well, first of all, it happened because i have a tenacity that was just is just innate in me. i had a big, big heart and i had such a motivation to make it in life. not just to be a celebrity, or this or that, but to have a home and security and to be well off so i never had to suffer again. and that's why i fight in the political arena. because policy affected my life from day one. from day one. i was award of the state and i had no say so about that. that was terrible for me. and it's terrible for a lot of kids right now in the foster care system. and also, coming from abject poverty when i came out of it, i went from the frying pan into the fire, the poor schools, going to school hungry, going to school with holes in my shoes. a child should never have to endure that. and what made my life better -- i'm dating myself -- was, you know, we had a president in the office that had programs for young people like cita. i was able to get a job that was subsidized by the government. so at 12 years old -- and policy affected my life in a negative way, and policy affected my life in a positive way. it all came down to who was in office at the time, who was the governor of the state that i was living in, who was the mayor of the city that i was living in and all on down. >> so if somebody was sitting here and watching our conversation from a 30,000-foot perspective, we hear your story. it is incredible what you've done. i'm honored to be sitting next to oyou. you look at someone like hillary clinton, she hasn't had to drive a car since 1996. some would say she's up on a pedest pedestal. why choose her. >> because she stepped down from her pedestal and went into the trenches. when she was part of the children's fund. listen, she didn't have to be a public servant. she chose to be a publicer is var servant. she met cldren suffering with disabilities. she met women who were suffering from sexual abuse, domestic abuse, part of the sex trade. so, yes, she grew up differently, completely differently from me. but she has empathy for me and sympathy for me on a level that is -- it just swells my heart. it really does. is hillary clinton perfect? look bloomberg said last night, who was wonderful and i have issues with him and i stood up and applauded him. he was fantastic. and like president obama said, she's not perfect. but she is a hard worker and she is ready for day one. and she cares about people. she cares. just because you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth doesn't mean you don't have empathy for people. most of us -- but there is someone out there that has no empathy that i will not be voting for. you know what i mean? but she is that candidate. and i will be voting for her. >> where can i see you in ex? what are you up to? the broadway show is done. where are you off to next? >> i have an independent movie that's coming out august 5th, called "five nights in maine." the guy in the "selma" then i'm doing a guest starring role on the tbs, tnt channel called "search party." i will be recurring guest there. >> awesome. so nice to see you. >> thank you. >> thanks for swinging by the grill. >> thank you. and i love you. >> i love you! >> i love you. >> we'll look at hillary clinton's speeches through the years. back from philadelphia. . we're all looking ahead to tonight. how will it go? hillary clinton giving arguably the biggest speech of her life. here is a look back starting with a 1996 democratic national convention in chicago. >> i know and you know that chicago is my kind of town. another friend advised me that i should cut my hair and color it orange and then change my name to hillary rodman clinton. i decided to do tonight to do what i've been doing for more than 25 years. i want to talk about what matters most in our lives and in our nation. children and families. i wish -- bill and i are closing one chapter of our lives and soon will be starting a new one. for me, it will be up to the people of new york to decide whether i'll have the privilege of serving them in the united states senate. and i am practically speechless. i visited ground zero the day after we were attacked. and i felt like i was standing at the gates of hell. and yet that tragedy both changed and challenged us. i know it did for me. it my supporters, to my champions, to my sister hood of the traveling pant suits, from the bottom of my heart, thank you. i'm only in my 60's. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. 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