protest these violations of turkish sovereign air space and condemn these incursions and violations of nato air space. allies also note the extreme danger of such irresponsible behavior. they call on the russian federation to cease and desist and immediately explain these violations. we believe at the end of the meeting you'll see today, you'll also see some statement come out. of course, we do have to keep in mind this time, the stakes are so much higher. so, it will be interesting to see what's decided here at the end of the day. >> reporting live from brussels this morning. keep in mind, turkey says russia was warned ten times before it responded to an apparent air space violation. and that it responded with, quote, the framework of engagement rules. let's talk about this with cnn counterterrorism analyst phillip mudd, also a former cia counterterrorism official. welcome. >> thank you. >> so, the turks say they warn the these russian fighter pilots