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is to persuade those who are not an government to replace those ministers who have left. and again it comes back to numbers. if there is to be a vote of confidence, which seemed definitely certain if he does not choose to resign, does he feel that he could just about when such a vote? but i guess he would also have to ask himself the question, let's say he survived a second vote of confidence but with a smaller majority, still have would that leave him? how would that leave his authority was making him of that leave his power? in some ways it's almost a surreal conversation we are having because i don't know whether the sort of mood at westminster is wrong, but i think people are thinking these are very much the last hours, the last minutes of boris johnson's last hours, the last minutes of borisjohnson's possibly last hours, the last minutes of boris johnson's possibly the days last hours, the last minutes of borisjohnson's possibly the days of his premiership and the real question is will he choose to resign or will he absolutely insist on putting his fate to the parliamentary conservative party possibly as early as next week? and possibly as early as next week? and that if the question, indeed, robert. many thanks, rob watson, my colleague at westminster. let's go to the houses of parliament and join my other colleagues there. i'm joined now from westminster by our political correspondent rob watson. he will be with us in just a moment. he will be with us in just a moment. he was of me is a short while ago here on downing street and we were discussing the mix of ministers and colleagues who were inside number ten and will be trying to convey their views to the prime minister, somebody that they have been quite close to and loyal tube, lots of them, over the last three years or so. so, the dynamics of that conversation are interesting to say the least. hejoins conversation are interesting to say the least. he joins us now. conversation are interesting to say the least. hejoins us now. what conversation are interesting to say the least. he joins us now. what are you picking up over in the house of commons? i you picking up over in the house of commons?— you picking up over in the house of commons? i think the key thing we are talking earlier— commons? i think the key thing we are talking earlier and _ commons? i think the key thing we are talking earlier and you - commons? i think the key thing we are talking earlier and you talk - are talking earlier and you talk to our colleague rob watson there about the situation in terms of numbers, what is _ the situation in terms of numbers, what is striking is that a number of people here in the house of commons who voted for boris johnson at the last confidence vote art saying they will not _ last confidence vote art saying they will not back him if there is another_ will not back him if there is anotherone. in will not back him if there is another one. in other confidence vole _ another one. in other confidence vole looks — another one. in other confidence vote looks highly likely because on monday— vote looks highly likely because on monday if— vote looks highly likely because on monday if he is still in place there will be these elections to the 1922 committee that sets the rules people are campaigning on changing those rules in_ are campaigning on changing those rules in order to have another vote of no—confidence. sol rules in order to have another vote of no—confidence. so i think given that the _ of no—confidence. so i think given that the consequence to the prime minister— that the consequence to the prime minister is — that the consequence to the prime minister is already draining away, i think— minister is already draining away, i think that — minister is already draining away, i think that was even a difficult position— think that was even a difficult position but then some of those people — position but then some of those people behind that black door in downing — people behind that black door in downing street are people who supported the prime minister publicly— supported the prime minister publicly and privately in the last vote of— publicly and privately in the last vote of confidence and members of his cabihet— vote of confidence and members of his cabinet including the transport secretary. — his cabinet including the transport secretary, grant shapps, one of his most _ secretary, grant shapps, one of his most angel— secretary, grant shapps, one of his most angel defenders in the media and including nadhim zahawi who was appointed _ and including nadhim zahawi who was appointed to replace rishi sunak in the last— appointed to replace rishi sunak in the last 24— appointed to replace rishi sunak in the last 24 hours who has gone. we talk about— the last 24 hours who has gone. we talk about that kind of urgency it was seen — talk about that kind of urgency it was seen very difficult for him to defy for— was seen very difficult for him to defy for very long the political laws _ defy for very long the political laws of — defy for very long the political laws of gravity. defy for very long the political laws of gravity-— defy for very long the political laws of gravity. defy for very long the political laws of aravi . ~ ~ ., laws of gravity. when we think about the kind of stages _ laws of gravity. when we think about the kind of stages that _ laws of gravity. when we think about the kind of stages that we _ laws of gravity. when we think about the kind of stages that we will - laws of gravity. when we think about the kind of stages that we will be - the kind of stages that we will be going through over the next few days if indeed that is the case, unless of course we get some dramatic announcement this evening that the prime minister has decided for whatever reason to walk after the conversations he has come up to the king of the stages into next week, difficult to see that the prime minister will still be in place given the dynamics that you are describing and the ones that rob watson described before you that he will still be in place by next tuesday or wednesday. i will still be in place by next tuesday or wednesday. i think it is hiuhl tuesday or wednesday. i think it is highly unlikely, and _ tuesday or wednesday. i think it is highly unlikely, and the _ tuesday or wednesday. i think it is highly unlikely, and the reason - tuesday or wednesday. i think it is highly unlikely, and the reason for| highly unlikely, and the reason for that is— highly unlikely, and the reason for that is we — highly unlikely, and the reason for that is we are not guessing here for some _ that is we are not guessing here for some hours— that is we are not guessing here for some hours talking to government ministers— some hours talking to government ministers who were considering whether— ministers who were considering whether they should be filling in the towel as well. talking to ministers who were deciding whether it's better— ministers who were deciding whether it's better to stay in government even _ it's better to stay in government even after— it's better to stay in government even after borisjohnson it's better to stay in government even after boris johnson is going to keep things functioning or whether they will— keep things functioning or whether they will be tainted by association with this — they will be tainted by association with this prime minister, whether it's better— with this prime minister, whether it's better for their own political careers— it's better for their own political careers to — it's better for their own political careers to keep some distance and it was interesting as i spoke to one of his ciosest— was interesting as i spoke to one of his closest allies, somebody who been _ his closest allies, somebody who been rounding up support for the prime _ been rounding up support for the prime minister during the difficulties he had with party gate, and he _ difficulties he had with party gate, and he said with a wry smile on his face that— and he said with a wry smile on his face that the only assume people wh0've _ face that the only assume people who've gone to the prime minister today, _ who've gone to the prime minister today, he — who've gone to the prime minister today, he said they were there to profess _ today, he said they were there to profess their undying loyalty and to discuss _ profess their undying loyalty and to discuss ideas for the third term. if he is _ discuss ideas for the third term. if he isjoking — discuss ideas for the third term. if he isjoking in those terms discuss ideas for the third term. if he is joking in those terms about the prime — he is joking in those terms about the prime minister's future, i think it certain _ the prime minister's future, i think it certain the prime minister's future — it certain the prime minister's future is — it certain the prime minister's future is severely limited. many thanks again — future is severely limited. many thanks again and _ future is severely limited. many thanks again and we _ future is severely limited. many thanks again and we will - future is severely limited. many thanks again and we willjoin . future is severely limited. iu’iag'iy thanks again and we willjoin un a short while for some more of the latest news there at westminster and if any developments are coming up butjust to remind all of you again and lots of you will not need reminding, today's events triggered really by the resignation of two of the high—profile kata ministers last night. after yesterday's double cabinet resignation, there's been an avalanche of ministers at a more junior level quitting. yesterday —— today, sajid javid gave his formal resignation statement and addressed his remarks in formal silence as sajid javid raise questions about integrity, trust in government and about his concerns for future generations and the way that they engage with politics unless there is change and he says it is all the will and responsibility at the very top, clearly a mean those remarks directly at boris johnson himself. lester is remind ourselves what sajid javid had to say. the public expects all of us to maintain honesty and maintain integrity in whatever we do. this is not an abstract matter. we have seen in great democracies what happens when divisions are entrenched and not bridged. we cannot allow that to happen here. we must bring the country together as one nation. effective governance inevitably requires loyalty and collective responsibility, of course, and i'm a team player instinctively and i have completely focused on governing effectively over the last year, but treading the tightrope between loyalty and integrity has become impossible in recent months. and, mr speaker, i will never risk losing my integrity. i also believe a team is as good as its team captain and that a captain is as good as his or her team, so loyalty must go both ways. the events of recent months have made it increasingly difficult to be in that team. it's not fair on ministerial colleagues to go out every morning defending lines that don't stand up and don't hold up. it's not fair on my parliamentary colleagues who bear the brunt of constituents' dismay in their inboxes and on their doorsteps in recent elections. and it's not fair on conservative members and voters who rightly expect better standards from the party they supported. when the first stories of parties in downing street emerged late last year, i was personally assured at the most senior level by my right honourable friend's then team that, and i quote, "there had been no parties in downing street and no rules were broken." so, i gave the benefit of doubt and i went on those media rounds to say that i'd had those assurances from the senior, the most senior level of the prime minister's team. then we had more stories, we had the sue gray report, a new downing street team. i continued to give the benefit of the doubt, and now this week again we have reason to question the truth and integrity of what we've all been told. and at some point, we have to conclude that enough is enough. i believe that point is now. i welcome the prime minister's public acknowledgement last night that matters could have been handled better in who he appointed out what was said about what he knew when. and i appreciated his kind and humble words and his humble spirit when i went to see him yesterday and also the kind letter he sent to me. but i do fear that the reset button could only work so many times. there's only many so many times you can turn the machine off before you realise that something is fundamentally wrong. last month, i gave the benefit of doubt one last time, but i haven't concluded that the problem starts at the top. that is not going to change. i have concluded that the problem starts at the top, and i believe that is not going to change. and that means that it is for those of us in a position who have responsibility to make that change. sajid javid making that former —— making that forthright criticism and statement and any notice to the schism with the prime minister personally and really questioning standards of truthfulness and integrity inside number ten. boris johnson is in number ten right now. he is in fact we think talking to a delegation of cabinet ministers, and outside the cabinet, sir graham brady cover the highly influential chair of the conservative backbench i922 chair of the conservative backbench 1922 committee who is in charge of any arrangements for a leadership contest or a vote of no—confidence, they are all in there right now. we have heard from mrjohnson at length already today because he faced quite an extended really from mps on the liaison committee. that is a committee of senior chairman of select committees including conservative ones, and there were some lively exchanges and some very odd couple moments for mrjohnson during that session, although he did repeatedly say that he was fully focused on fulfilling his mandate as prime minister, the mandate that he was back in 2019. but of course all around that, we have the side of dozens of members of his government re—signing and more have been doing that in the past few hours. and this consensus here i have to say talking to colleagues is that the writing is on the wall and its very prominent, very bold and very big writing indeed by now. so no sign of that though from mrjohnson will he give evidence of the committee. he was keeping to his message and let's listen to some of those exchanges. are you familiar with the principles? | are you familiar with the principles?— are you familiar with the --rinciles? ~ , ., are you familiar with the --rinciles? ~' , ., ., ., principles? i knew you were going to ask this. principles? i knew you were going to ask this- this — principles? i knew you were going to ask this. this is _ principles? i knew you were going to ask this. this is about _ principles? i knew you were going to ask this. this is about tommy... - ask this. this is about tommy... yes? go on, remind me. if ask this. this is about tommy... yes? go on, remind me. if you were to no to yes? go on, remind me. if you were to go to her— yes? go on, remind me. if you were to go to her majesty _ yes? go on, remind me. if you were to go to her majesty and _ yes? go on, remind me. if you were to go to her majesty and request, i to go to her majesty and request, it is a request— to go to her majesty and request, it is a request a dissolution of parliament, could you give me two conditions — parliament, could you give me two conditions under which her medicine he will— conditions under which her medicine he will he _ conditions under which her medicine he will be justified and declining? you are _ he will be justified and declining? you are asking about something that is not going to happen unless everybody is so crazy as to try, you know, and have a new... we are going to get on... know, and have a new... we are going to get on- - -— to get on... order, order. prime minister, _ to get on... order, order. prime minister. you — to get on... order, order. prime minister, you said _ to get on... order, order. prime minister, you said is _ to get on... order, order. prime minister, you said is not - to get on... order, order. prime minister, you said is not going i to get on... order, order. prime| minister, you said is not going to happen— minister, you said is not going to happen unlessm _ minister, you said is not going to happen unless... unless- minister, you said is not going to happen unless... unless what? l minister, you said is not going to happen unless... unless what? i| happen unless... unless what? i think happen unless... unless what? think history teaches us that happen unless... unless what?“ think history teaches us that the best way to have a period of stability and government and not to have early elections is to allow people with mandates to get on with. .. people with mandates to get on with... , , people with mandates to get on with... ,, . people with mandates to get on with. . ._ that's - people with mandates to get on | with. . ._ that's what people with mandates to get on - with. . ._ that's what i'm with... unless what? that's what i'm sa inc. with... unless what? that's what i'm saying- on — with... unless what? that's what i'm saying- on the _ with... unless what? that's what i'm saying. on the people _ with... unless what? that's what i'm saying. on the people ignore - with... unless what? that's what i'm saying. on the people ignore that. saying. 0n the people ignore that very good principle which history teaches us that the best way to avoid pointless political disturbance is to allow a government that has a mandate to get out and deliver its mandate. that is what we are going to do. deliver its mandate. that is what we are going to de— deliver its mandate. that is what we are going to do— are going to do. sorry, 'ust a minute. i are going to do. sorry, 'ust a minute. let * are going to do. sorry, 'ust a minute. let people _ are going to do. sorry, just a minute. let people forget. are going to do. sorry, just a i minute. let people forget that. are going to do. sorry, just a - minute. let people forget that. what does that mean? _ minute. let people forget that. what does that mean? i _ minute. let people forget that. what does that mean? i think _ minute. let people forget that. what does that mean? i think on _ minute. let people forget that. what does that mean? i think on the - minute. let people forget that. what| does that mean? i think on the whole it's a aood does that mean? i think on the whole it's a good thing _ does that mean? i think on the whole it's a good thing the _ does that mean? i think on the whole it's a good thing the governments - it's a good thing the governments would have a substantial mandate from the electorate and are doing an enormous amount of stuff and are when that country is facing a lot of pressure particularly economic pressure, with there are serious international issues at stake, i think on the whole it is visible not to get bogged in discussion about electoral politics that allow the government to function. flan electoral politics that allow the government to function.- electoral politics that allow the government to function. can i said there would _ government to function. can i said there would never— government to function. can i said there would never have _ government to function. can i said there would never have been - government to function. can i said there would never have been a - there would never have been a general— there would never have been a general election... _ there would never have been a general election... can- there would never have been a general election. . ._ there would never have been a general election... can i thank you for that excellent _ general election... can i thank you for that excellent historical - for that excellent historical lesson. it is the point i'm trying to make. i lesson. it is the point i'm trying to make. ., �* ,, ., lesson. it is the point i'm trying to make. ., �* ~' ., , lesson. it is the point i'm trying to make. ., �* ,, ., , to make. i don't know why you said unless. thank _ to make. i don't know why you said unless. thank you, _ to make. i don't know why you said unless. thank you, sir _ to make. i don't know why you said unless. thank you, sir bernard. - to make. i don't know why you said| unless. thank you, sir bernard. and so if one of— unless. thank you, sir bernard. and so if one of the _ unless. thank you, sir bernard. and so if one of the conditions _ unless. thank you, sir bernard. and so if one of the conditions is - unless. thank you, sir bernard. and so if one of the conditions is the - so if one of the conditions is the sovereign — so if one of the conditions is the sovereign could rely on finding another— sovereign could rely on finding another prime minister who could govern— another prime minister who could govern for— another prime minister who could govern for a reasonable period in the house — govern for a reasonable period in the house of commons commit would you accept— the house of commons commit would you accept that principle? i | the house of commons commit would you accept that principle?— you accept that principle? i i think all this. .. you accept that principle? i i think allthis--- i— you accept that principle? i i think all this... i want _ you accept that principle? i i think all this. .. i want to _ you accept that principle? i i think all this. .. i want to agree - all this... i want to agree passionately and strongly with what sir bernard has said. if you go back to... the 1990s, you don't solve problems by threatening to call elections was up you've got to get on with what you were elected to do. and that's with the government is doing. 50 and that's with the government is doinu. �* and that's with the government is doin., �* , ., and that's with the government is doini, �* , ., ,., doing. so i'm sitting at the you acce -t doing. so i'm sitting at the you accept the _ doing. so i'm sitting at the you accept the principles. - doing. so i'm sitting at the you accept the principles. insofar l doing. so i'm sitting at the you| accept the principles. insofar as the are accept the principles. insofar as they are designed _ accept the principles. insofar as they are designed to _ accept the principles. insofar as they are designed to prevent i they are designed to prevent pointless wildcat elections, it sounds sensible to me. that pointless wildcat elections, it sounds sensible to me. that was part ofthe sounds sensible to me. that was part of the session — sounds sensible to me. that was part of the session in _ sounds sensible to me. that was part of the session in the _ sounds sensible to me. that was part of the session in the liaison _ of the session in the liaison committee earlier today, which was a pretty difficult session for the prime minister, lasted about 90 minutes or so. questions on the range of his duties and obviously spilt into areas of leadership and questions of integrity as well. and that was a session that went on until pretty much about 6pm since when the prime minister has returned here to downing street and we have been hearing from more and more ministers, some on the prime minister's said, more not on side by now, including the minister kitten malt house, who is been a close ally of the prime minister. he has been spotted leaving the cabinet office and was met by waiting reporters will be interesting for us to hear what kit malthouse had to say. let's listen. ~ . . what kit malthouse had to say. let's listen. ~ ., , ., , , listen. what is happening in there? is a listen. what is happening in there? is a difficult — listen. what is happening in there? is a difficult day _ listen. what is happening in there? is a difficult day and _ listen. what is happening in there? is a difficult day and i _ listen. what is happening in there? is a difficult day and i will— listen. what is happening in there? is a difficult day and i will not - is a difficult day and i will not comment. is a difficult day and i will not comment-— is a difficult day and i will not comment. �* , , ., �* comment. but you must be sad. you've been with them — comment. but you must be sad. you've been with them all— comment. but you must be sad. you've been with them all the _ comment. but you must be sad. you've been with them all the way. _ comment. but you must be sad. you've been with them all the way. it's - been with them all the way. it's over. _ been with them all the way. it's over. is— been with them all the way. it's over. is it — been with them all the way. it's over, is it not? i�*m been with them all the way. it's over, is it not?— been with them all the way. it's over, is it not? i'm not commenting any further- — over, is it not? i'm not commenting any further- are _ over, is it not? i'm not commenting any further. are you _ over, is it not? i'm not commenting any further. are you back _ over, is it not? i'm not commenting any further. are you back in - over, is it not? i'm not commenting any further. are you back in the - any further. are you back in the prime minister _ any further. are you back in the prime minister in _ any further. are you back in the prime minister in there? - any further. are you back in the prime minister in there? be - any further. are you back in the - prime minister in there? be careful. what is the — prime minister in there? be careful. what is the mood _ prime minister in there? be careful. what is the mood in _ prime minister in there? be careful. what is the mood in there? - prime minister in there? be careful. what is the mood in there? excuse l what is the mood in there? excuse me. what what is the mood in there? excuse me- what is _ what is the mood in there? excuse me. what is the _ what is the mood in there? excuse me. what is the mood _ what is the mood in there? excuse l me. what is the mood inside there? kit malthouse. _ me. what is the mood inside there? kit malthouse, policing _ me. what is the mood inside there? kit malthouse, policing minister, - kit malthouse, policing minister, saying works of the effect that it's been a very difficult day and not really that addicting the sense that it's all over, all but over the prime minister. joe is with us from bloomberg and thank you forjoining us. what is your understanding? brute us. what is your understanding? we have us. what is your understanding? - have this delegation of ministers and with the prime minister now and telling in the game is up and what he should do in the face of that. we think you may resemble a can still try and fight on. the consent get to push me out and have a confidence vote and change the rules of the 1922 committee and that is the only way you will get rid of me but it is a febrile time and only imagine the conversations happening behind that black door. . conversations happening behind that black door. , ., ,., black door. interesting that some suggestions _ black door. interesting that some suggestions including _ black door. interesting that some suggestions including from - black door. interesting that some suggestions including from your | suggestions including from your fellowjournalist harry suggestions including from your fellow journalist harry cole suggestions including from your fellowjournalist harry cole saying that they're going and one by one and they are invited to see the prime minister face—to—face. and they are invited to see the prime ministerface—to—face. that clearly would put some individuals under great pressure much more difficult to do that than to do that in a group. what do you think the dynamics of some of those meetings will be? i dynamics of some of those meetings will be? ~ , dynamics of some of those meetings will be? ~' , ._ ., will be? i think they will say to the prime _ will be? i think they will say to the prime minister _ will be? i think they will say to the prime minister you - will be? i think they will say to i the prime minister you have had almost 40 resignations today or in the last 24 hours. the authority and momentum in your administration has effectively and away in its entirety and we cannot go on like this and it would be foolish to try to stay at this point in time. imploring him to do the dignified thing right now and to stand out and for everyone to move on that is what those ministers will say we need to do and it cannot happen while you were still prime minister. ., ., happen while you were still prime minister. ,, ._ , happen while you were still prime minister. ,, , , , �* minister. stay with us because i'll come back _ minister. stay with us because i'll come back to _ minister. stay with us because i'll come back to you _ minister. stay with us because i'll come back to you right _ minister. stay with us because i'll come back to you right away - minister. stay with us because i'll come back to you right away but i j come back to you right away but i want to do is listen to a clip of jacob rees—mogg, one of the closest allies and cabinet and now the brexit 0pportunities minister and he has been spotted here in whitehall in the past half hour or so and he is being asked what is going on and this is what he said. what is being asked what is going on and this is what he said.— this is what he said. what is happening _ this is what he said. what is happening in _ this is what he said. what is happening in there? - this is what he said. what is happening in there? i've - this is what he said. what is l happening in there? i've been working in _ happening in there? i've been working in the _ happening in there? i've been working in the cabinet - happening in there? i've been working in the cabinet office. | happening in there? i've been| working in the cabinet office. i don't — working in the cabinet office. i don't want to get run over will stop is he going — don't want to get run over will stop is he going to resign? i will not say _ is he going to resign? i will not say i_ is he going to resign? i will not say i am — is he going to resign? i will not say. lam nodding, so sorry. is he going to resign? i will not say. i am nodding, so sorry. please. well that was _ say. i am nodding, so sorry. please. well that was clear _ say. i am nodding, so sorry. please. well that was clear enough - say. i am nodding, so sorry. please. well that was clear enough but - say. i am nodding, so sorry. please. i well that was clear enough but maybe not entirely surprising, jacob rees—mogg says the prime minister has his full support. he is one of the few who are still saying that. do you suspect the prime minister will civilly come to the view that if there is a vote of confidence next week, he will lose it and if thatis next week, he will lose it and if that is the case might be more dignified to step away. that that is the case might be more dignified to step away.- that is the case might be more dignified to step away. that is the lo i ic of dignified to step away. that is the logic of this _ dignified to step away. that is the logic of this scenario _ dignified to step away. that is the logic of this scenario now. - dignified to step away. that is the logic of this scenario now. in - dignified to step away. that is the | logic of this scenario now. in june, logic of this scenario now. injune, more than 40% of his mps voted against him and it would only take 30 to morse to oust him. more than that have come out in the last 24 hours to say we don't support him any more and the mathematics does not support boris johnson any more and the mathematics does not support borisjohnson and therefore they hope he was in that logic and therefore he will send out. we will find out very shortly the result of that meeting and estimates of the promised or it might be him saying this is it. we could be seeing in these next minutes, hours. it’s could be seeing in these next minutes, hours.— minutes, hours. it's been a remarkably _ minutes, hours. it's been a remarkably turbulent - minutes, hours. it's been a remarkably turbulent 24 i minutes, hours. it's been a - remarkably turbulent 24 hours. minutes, hours. it's been a _ remarkably turbulent 24 hours. these crises have a strange way of evolving, don't they? difficult sometimes to pinpoint exactly what the tipping point was because there have been lots of questions about boris johnson's have been lots of questions about borisjohnson's leadership in boris johnson's leadership in japanese borisjohnson's leadership in japanese face lots of crises. the handling of the chris pincher affair clearly was a big problem. but for you, was it the moment when you had the chancellor and the health secretary masonic was meant was that the event which triggered all this crisis on a much higher scale? that was definitely _ crisis on a much higher scale? that was definitely the _ crisis on a much higher scale? trust was definitely the most high—profile moment that led to all you have seen but i would push it back even further to the morning of yesterday when we had some and mcdonald a former foreign office chief saying in black and white the administration has effectively lied about the chris pincher case. when i was a weapon and tripped talking to mps they were furious about that letter and i think that is what tipped so many over the edge and probably gave the chancellor and gave sajid javid the reason to say we now need to go. i would point that moment yesterday morning as a key moment. find that moment yesterday morning as a key moment-— key moment. and all of the estimate we have rrot — key moment. and all of the estimate we have not mentioned _ key moment. and all of the estimate we have not mentioned the - key moment. and all of the estimate we have not mentioned the prime i we have not mentioned the prime minister's wife because she has been influential behind the scenes and she clearly will be involved in a decision as big as resignation. what does your hunch there? will she be thinking tough it out or will she be encouraging borisjohnson to, you know, do the thing which may be or could allow him to keep some of his self respect and dignity in leaving number ten?— self respect and dignity in leaving numberten? , ., ., ,, number ten? very hard to say. she has ke it a number ten? very hard to say. she has kept a low _ number ten? very hard to say. she has kept a low profile _ number ten? very hard to say. she has kept a low profile during - number ten? very hard to say. she has kept a low profile during the i has kept a low profile during the administration and we know she is a cop and all the promised or it will be giving him advice but since her knife edge. what you cite the dignified and go or would you beside keep fighting now and we know if the prime minister's instinct, he does not want to give up disposition. he still thinks he is a mandate from the people from that election victory and i think it is mine while he has that he thinks i should not 9° up he has that he thinks i should not go up and he has said today maybe that means meeting the ministers will change his opinion but we will soon find out. we will change his opinion but we will soon find out.— will change his opinion but we will soon find out. we will soon find out and lots of — soon find out. we will soon find out and lots of today _ soon find out. we will soon find out and lots of today has been - soon find out. we will soon find out and lots of today has been about i and lots of today has been about speculating who might say this or that were from the moment we were told that sir graham brady in his position as chairman of the 1922 committee was going in there to offer wise council, the ducks fell away because the meaning of that is very clear. wife's council in this instance being do what is wise and do what is right notjust for you but for the party and the country. and we assume that the web he read it. , , , it. yes, this is the men in gray suit moment that _ it. yes, this is the men in gray suit moment that we - it. yes, this is the men in gray suit moment that we have - it. yes, this is the men in gray. suit moment that we have been waiting for an it has happened. we are seeing it right now, the walls of closed in and every meaningful force that could push them out is now pushing and we will see the results either today or in the coming days. this is the end game. is there anything if that happens they can salvage in terms of achievement or reputational issues if he leaves number ten in such for what many would say it would be humiliating circumstances? being pushed out, a permit minister with an 80 seat majority lesson three years after he has one that big victory in a general election. is there any thing he can point to credibly which would allow him to say something positive and constructive as he leaves? i was talkini to constructive as he leaves? i was talking to one — constructive as he leaves? i was talking to one of— constructive as he leaves? i was talking to one of the _ constructive as he leaves? i was talking to one of the mps - constructive as he leaves? i was talking to one of the mps he - talking to one of the mps he resigned today from a position and they said exactly that and at the prime minister does deserve credit in their eyes for delivering brexit and your call all the turmoil in westminster in 2019 so that simply said he did get credit for that and also a very difficultjob with the pandemic. and again he deserves credit for his family and these are contested issues but there is little sense in the party that he has done some good. this would be the moment for him to say here is what i have achieved a number he dies that the parties are coming with me but at least i have that legacy. so i think he could possibly make that statement and that might be the next statement and that might be the next statement he makes.— statement he makes. indeed in the final point because _ statement he makes. indeed in the final point because it _ statement he makes. indeed in the final point because it is _ statement he makes. indeed in the final point because it is not - statement he makes. indeed in the final point because it is not the - final point because it is not the broadcast of the second and this is very dangerous territory, with the prime minister have a view if he resides, we have of you on who the idea of success or should be in terms of his own legacy as he would want to define it or will he simply beeped just not interested in that at all? beeped 'ust not interested in that at all? , . beeped 'ust not interested in that atall? , ., ,., , beeped 'ust not interested in that atall? , ., ,., at all? very hard disciples of the promised or— at all? very hard disciples of the promised or might _ at all? very hard disciples of the promised or might if _ at all? very hard disciples of the promised or might if the - at all? very hard disciples of the l promised or might if the approach at all? very hard disciples of the - promised or might if the approach of site this is who i want to be my successor and that might be a somewhat poisoned chalice to give someone at a point when the party has rejected you and in entirely by sufficient but we saw him give nadhim zahawi the second top demo chancellor but he might support him but who knows of the prime minister might do with mac thank you very much and coverage continues on bbc news channel but for now, i am going to say thank you for watching in dentistry and goodbye for now. hello. if you've been tracking the weather forecast on your weather app for the next few days, you may have seen that the temperature is expected to rise quite significantly. not everywhere in the uk, mostly across the south. in fact, we are increasingly confident that a heat wave is on the way, and it's likely to affect the southern half of the british isles. now, in the short—term, it's cloudy and relatively cool. in fact, in the north of the country, recently we've had some spots of rain, and it's weather systems riding around this area of high pressure. the settled weather is way to the south of us, but this high is expected to eventually build across the uk. the jet stream will be quite far north, and this high pressure will be responsible for spreading some very hot air in our direction. but this isn't going to happen right away. in fact, if anything, if you look at the wind arrows, they're coming in from the north, so relatively fresh north atlantic air. but having said that, temperatures in the morning on thursday, 14 in belfast, 15—16 in the south of the country, so it's not all that fresh. now, the morning is going to be fairly cloudy, but sunshine will develop from midday onwards, and a beautiful day, i think, along the north sea coast, the south coast, too. inland, it'll be sunny as well. very pleasant temperatures, 18—22 for many of us, mid—20s across the south and the south east. now, this is the forecast for friday, and a little bit of cloud and rain maybe in the north west of the uk, but once again, it's a mostly warm and sunny day. and actually turning quite hot in some of the bigger towns and cities in the south, london there at 28 degrees. and we are very confident that it's going to be a very warm and sunny weekend across many parts of the uk. beautiful weather around coastal areas as this area of high pressure noses in off the atlantic. the winds will start to fall light. and it will be cloudy at times in north—western parts of scotland, maybe some spots of rain there in stornoway. but look at these temperatures, around 22 in hull, 27 degrees expected in london. and the following day is going to get even hotter. and actually if you look at the outlook for the week ahead, we're expecting temperatures to be in excess of 30 degrees most of the week in many southern towns and cities. never really gets too hot in the north. i think pleasantly warm is the best way to describe it. i'm live at downing street as boris johnson fights for survival as prime minister, with resignations from government, and a loss of support among his backbenchers too. these arejust some of the tory ministers and aides who've sent in letters of resignation — 36 and counting. cabinet ministers are streaming into number 10. they have one message for borisjohnson — it's time to go. it follows a devastating speech from the former health secretary. we have reason to question the truth and integrity of what we have all been told. and at some point we have to conclude that enough is enough. i believe that point is now. earlier, when mrjohnson faced the commons, the labour leader added his voice to the chorus of criticism. isn't this the first recorded case of the sinking ships fleeing the rat? mrjohnson also faced questions on his record by a committee of mps, as he insists he's carrying on. prime minister, how is your week going? _ prime minister, how is your week ioiin ? . ~ prime minister, how is your week ioiin? . ~ ., , prime minister, how is your week ioiin? . ,, ., i. , thank you forjoining me as we continue the coverage of the ratcheting up of pressure on boris johnson. many of the mps within his own conservative party announcing that it own conservative party announcing thatitis own conservative party announcing that it is time for him to go. across the coming hours, people bring all the twists and turns. you can also follow those to the bbc news life appeared to spell. so far, 36 ministers and aides have said they can no longer serve boris johnson. this was triggered by the tubers are greg —— by the two big resignations yesterday. this is where the focus is currently, as ione wells from bbc reported, "a group of cabinet ministers are about to tell the pm to resign in no10, including the chief whip, the bbc understands. simon hart, the welsh secretary, is also one of them. he made it clear to no10 yesterday that it was "game over" but it shouldn't have to come by ministerial resignations. also in that group, according to the press association, the northern ireland secretary brandon lewis. the pa news agency has reported mr lewis is preparing to tell borisjohnson that his position is untenable and that he should leave downing street. among them too, according to pa — grant shapps, the transport secretary, one of borisjohnson's strongest backers until now. mr shapps was reponsible for counting how many mps supported the prime minister in the recent confidence vote. the business secretary kwasi kwarteng has also told the chief whip he thinks boris should go. and the new chancellor of the exchequer, nadim zahawi, pictured here arriving for his first day at work, has also said the prime minister's time is up. the biggest resignations remain those two senior cabinet ministers, the chancellor, rishi sunak, and the health secretary, sajid javid. in the house of commons, sajid javid gave a resignation statement directly criticising the prime minster on the issue of trust. the former health secretary urged borisjohsnon to stand down. but treading the tightrope between loyalty and integrity has become impossible in recent months. and, mr speaker, i will never risk losing my integrity. i also believe a team is as good as its team captain and that a captain is as good as his or her team, so loyalty must go both ways. the events of recent months have made it increasingly difficult to be in that team. it's not fair on ministerial colleagues to go out every morning defending lines that don't stand up and don't hold up. it's not fair on my parliamentary colleagues who bear the brunt of constituents' dismay in their inboxes and on their doorsteps in recent elections. and it's not fair on conservative members and voters who rightly expect better standards from the party they supported. among those inside downing street currently is the chairman of the 1922 committee, sir graham brady, the committee that represents the voice of conservative backbenchers. chris mason is our political editor. we are told wise council, which is westminster speak for telling the prime minister that time is up, you have lost the party and have -ot to -o. in downing street right now are two groups of senior ministers. there are those who were going in there to sayjust that to borisjohnson, that he should resign, and there are others who are saying, no, you have a mandate from the last general election, a new prime minister would _ not have that mandate and it may lead to a general election sooner than later. those are the arguments going on right now at the heart of government which will shape what boris johnson chooses to do next. there are some here pondering that as soon as this evening, mr johnson may decide to resign. were he not to do that, some of those ministers who want him to may resign themselves and as soon as next week you could see a move from backbenchers to try and remove him by a vote of confidence. things are very fluid and this day could have quite a few hours left in it yet. i think that there is definitely accurate, the situation is fluid this evening. borisjohnson has faced questions from the liaison committee. it's a super—committee made up of the mps who chair all other select committees including health, education and defence. snp mp angus macneil asked whether he'd still be in post tomorrow, here's that exchange. he has had more resignations since 1932, michael gove has told them to do. will you be prime minister tomorrow? riff do. will you be prime minister tomorrow?— do. will you be prime minister tomorrow? _, , �* ., tomorrow? of course... but i am here too, tomorrow? of course... but i am here too. rather— tomorrow? of course... but i am here too, rather than _ tomorrow? of course... but i am here too, rather than giving _ tomorrow? of course... but i am here too, rather than giving any _ tomorrow? of course... but i am here too, rather than giving any running i too, rather than giving any running commentary... i'm here to talk about what the government is doing. so, that's what i was answering, stephen, and we're moving on. labour mp darrenjones asked him about his week. prime minister, - how's your week going? terrific. like many others. you know... did michael gove come and tell you to resign today? _ i think i said earlier, sir bernard, that i'm not going to... i'm here to talk about what the government is doing. i'm not going to give a running commentary on political events. it is understood that michael gove is under— it is understood that michael gove is under though suggesting he should quit. is under though suggesting he should quit frir_ is under though suggesting he should iuit. ~ , ., , is under though suggesting he should iuit. ~_, ,., is under though suggesting he should iuit. ~ ,., ., is under though suggesting he should quit. mrjones also wanted to ask the prime minister _ quit. mrjones also wanted to ask the prime minister that _ quit. mrjones also wanted to ask the prime minister that the - quit. mrjones also wanted to ask the prime minister that the samej the prime minister that the same question, is it time to go? in my view, you are hurting the country. — in my view, you are hurting the country, prime minister. 0n in my view, you are hurting the country, prime minister. on a human level, _ country, prime minister. on a human level. you _ country, prime minister. on a human level, you must notice in the country's _ level, you must notice in the country's interest for you to leave now _ country's interest for you to leave now i _ country's interest for you to leave now. ~' country's interest for you to leave now. ~ . ., y , country's interest for you to leave now. ~ , , ., now. i think the country is going throuih now. i think the country is going through tough — now. i think the country is going through tough times, _ now. i think the country is going through tough times, and - now. i think the country is going through tough times, and we i now. i think the country is going l through tough times, and we have the... you are making a point about duty, right? the... you are making a point about duty. right?— the... you are making a point about duty, right? yes. and i look at the issues that — duty, right? yes. and i look at the issues that this _ duty, right? yes. and i look at the issues that this country faces, i look at the pressures that people are under, and the government to focus on their priorities, which is what we are doing. i look at the biggest war in europe for 80 years, and i can't for the life of me see how it is responsible just to walk away from that. as i said, earlier on and pmqs, particularly not when you have a mandate of the kind we won two or three years ago. mrjohnson at that party committee earlier. bear in mind, the recent in the short to mrjohnson found himself in the situation as the concerns expressed over how he handled allegations of sexual misconduct directed at his knife, deputy chief whip chris pincher. the reason it has escalated this much, though connect to the fact that question is, for example around trust relate to mrjohnson notjust in the last week, but to relate to several months and years come back on a number of issues. and this is what william wragg asked the prime minister about his government. at what point does it become impossible for the queen's government to continue? | impossible for the queen's government to continue? i really think that you — government to continue? i really think that you are _ government to continue? i really i think that you are underestimating the talent, energy and sheer ambition of members of parliament. and they want to get things done for the constituents come on the government of the country is being carried on with ever—increasing energy. carried on with ever-increasing eneri . , . carried on with ever-increasing eneri . y , , ., ., energy. they seem 'ust want to get one thini energy. they seem 'ust want to get thing done — energy. they seem 'ust want to get one thing done at _ energy. they seem just want to get one thing done at the _ energy. they seem just want to get one thing done at the moment, - energy. they seem just want to get one thing done at the moment, i i one thing done at the moment, i entirety— one thing done at the moment, i entirely agree with you on that. here with me is cat neilan, political editor from the insider. you're trying to work at what is going on behind the famous black door. what is your understanding about the nature of the conversations between borisjohnson and some of his cabinet? at conversations between boris johnson and some of his cabinet?— and some of his cabinet? at the minute we _ and some of his cabinet? at the minute we have _ and some of his cabinet? at the minute we have seen _ and some of his cabinet? at the minute we have seen both - and some of his cabinet? at the - minute we have seen both supporters and those who read no havejoined the so—called delegation to try and, not to put too strongly a term on it, that the time is up for the prime minister is go. we have heard some names — kwasi kwarteng, simon hart, brandon lewis we understand is in belfast but as an delegation on the side of trying to get the prime minister to understand that the time is up. there are others we have seen going on, nadine dorries foremost among them, one of his supporters. hard to imagine she is calling for the prime minister to go. i hard to imagine she is calling for the prime minister to go.- the prime minister to go. i don't think so. let's _ the prime minister to go. i don't think so. let's talk _ the prime minister to go. i don't think so. let's talk about - the prime minister to go. i don't| think so. let's talk about nadhim zahawi, think so. let's talk about nadhim zahawi. there — think so. let's talk about nadhim zahawi, there were _ think so. let's talk about nadhim zahawi, there were some - think so. let's talk about nadhim zahawi, there were some saying| think so. let's talk about nadhim - zahawi, there were some saying that he was part of the group singh he should go. he was part of the group singh he should io. ., _, ., , ., should go. there are controversial skirts were _ should go. there are controversial skirts were contradictory - should go. there are controversial| skirts were contradictory briefings, but it was a curious move for him to take the chance level. we know he has been talked about as one of the most viable candidates for the leadership should the prime minister go. he did a big 2—piece read interview with the sunday telegraph at the weekend, talking about his back story, not so much about policy but more who he is as a person come in very much felt like a leadership gambit. so i was quite a strange move to see him further embed himself into borisjohnson's government yesterday. maybe that means he is part of this delegation who is looking to oust him. we means he is part of this delegation who is looking to oust him.- who is looking to oust him. we are constantly looking _ who is looking to oust him. we are constantly looking over our - constantly looking over our shoulders because one of the most important things you can do in eternity on a day like this is to keep an eye on that door, as you never can be quite sure who is going to come in and out and for that they will say anything. to come in and out and for that they will say anything-— will say anything. they don't normally see _ will say anything. they don't normally see anything... - will say anything. they don't i normally see anything... know, will say anything. they don't - normally see anything... know, but it is quite telling he is coming in and out. it it is quite telling he is coming in and out. . �* . it is quite telling he is coming in and out. , ~ , ., and out. it is. and in terms of the key players _ and out. it is. and in terms of the key players here. _ and out. it is. and in terms of the key players here, do _ and out. it is. and in terms of the key players here, do you - and out. it is. and in terms of the key players here, do you think- and out. it is. and in terms of the| key players here, do you think will hold the most sway with the prime minister? ., ., ., , minister? nadhim zahawi will be listened to. _ minister? nadhim zahawi will be listened to, of— minister? nadhim zahawi will be listened to, of course. _ minister? nadhim zahawi will be listened to, of course. until - minister? nadhim zahawi will be listened to, of course. until last| listened to, of course. until last night, sajid javid would have very much been an important person in that role. it is interesting we have got two of the devolved ministers, the welsh secretary a northern ireland secretary here. we know that borisjohnson is not usually popular in scotland, northern ireland and wales. it is outside of england, his appeal is much, much weaker, so there may be an element of that. but to be honest we don't really know at this stage how many ministers that are in there that are trying to get him out. i are in there that are trying to get him out. . . are in there that are trying to get him out. ., ., , ., ., ,., him out. i have a question about the rocess, him out. i have a question about the process, because _ him out. i have a question about the process, because today _ him out. i have a question about the process, because today and - process, because today and previously mrjohnson has, quite understandably, reference the fact that he won handsomely in the last election, he has a large majority, and he keeps in that mandate to lead. if you stick to that, and some of his mps say go, and he says no thanks, what happens?— of his mps say go, and he says no thanks, what happens? there has been a lot of talk about _ thanks, what happens? there has been a lot of talk about this _ thanks, what happens? there has been a lot of talk about this possibility - a lot of talk about this possibility of a nuclear option in which he may call a snap general election. it feels unlikely and feels like an incredibly dangerous thing to do given the mood of the country, no less a party. but is not possible. what that would then potentially do the trick at the low sales principles, which is a slightly obscure convention that mps and lobby journalists obscure convention that mps and lobbyjournalists like myself have become slightly more familiar with in recent days. and this actually could involve the queen potentially blocking a general election on three grounds. eitherthere blocking a general election on three grounds. either there could be damaging to the economy, or if she believes that the parliament is viable as it stands, or if there is a viable alternative prime minister. under one of those three bases, she can say no. but under one of those three bases, she can say no— can say no. but that actually go for the queen to _ can say no. but that actually go for the queen to do _ can say no. but that actually go for the queen to do so, _ can say no. but that actually go for the queen to do so, both - can say no. but that actually go for the queen to do so, both be - can say no. but that actually go for the queen to do so, both be that l the queen to do so, both be that something she would settle with her advisers? you something she would settle with her advisers? ., ., ., ., ., advisers? you would have to ask the r0 al advisers? you would have to ask the royal corresponded, _ advisers? you would have to ask the royal corresponded, but _ advisers? you would have to ask the royal corresponded, but rather - royal corresponded, but rather skirts much more likely a palace thing rather than an individual. for the moment, thank you. pippa crerar, political editor of the daily mirror tweeted... "grim mood in downing street. no 10 insider says "lots of tears" in building. "writing on the wall now. the working assumption is that it will be today" and this is a moment thatjacob rees—mogg, also the minister for bricks of opportunities and very much a staunch ally of mrjohnson, a staunch brexit�*s you too. he is being questioned on his way out of the cabinet office. i being questioned on his way out of the cabinet office.— the cabinet office. i have been workini the cabinet office. i have been working in _ the cabinet office. i have been working in the _ the cabinet office. i have been working in the cabinet - the cabinet office. i have been working in the cabinet office. i don't want to get run over. are going _ don't want to get run over. are going to — don't want to get run over. are going to resign? she don't want to get run over. are going to resign?— don't want to get run over. are going to resign? she has my full su- iort. going to resign? she has my full sopport- i'm _ going to resign? she has my full sopport- i'm not— going to resign? she has my full support. i'm not doing _ going to resign? she has my full support. i'm not doing that. - going to resign? she has my full support. i'm not doing that. i'm| going to resign? she has my full. support. i'm not doing that. i'm so sorry. the prime minister has my full support. i'm not doing that, so sorry. he has my support. there was grant shapps, the transport secretary, working out of number ten and heading on his way. not a word to any of us. if he was going to have a conversation with the prime minister has had them. berryman, b was in a group of cabinet ministers we were told would be making their way into downing street to suggest the prime minister's time had come. there have been contradictory briefings. some people seem those conversations were playing out individually, one on one rather than everyone in a room. we can't be sure of that, but grant shapps has left, there are plenty of other cabinet ministers who haven't, or they haven't come out of the front door. i or they haven't come out of the front door-— or they haven't come out of the front door. ,, ., ., front door. i think at the moment the most likely _ front door. i think at the moment the most likely order _ front door. i think at the moment the most likely order of - front door. i think at the moment the most likely order of things i front door. i think at the moment the most likely order of things is| the most likely order of things is that cabinet ministers are going in individually to speak to the prime minister. i spoke to jacob rees—mogg's team about half an hour ago stop he has got no plans to go to number ten, ago stop he has got no plans to go to numberten, but ago stop he has got no plans to go to number ten, but has told the pm and other 30 fully supports in. we do know that there are some very loyal cabinet ministers such as nadine dorries, also a number ten, so i think at the moment the most likely with us is playing out is that he is in school having individual conversations and healing the bad news. if individual conversations and healing the bad news-— individual conversations and healing the bad news. if you were to try and sta on, the bad news. if you were to try and stay on. one — the bad news. if you were to try and stay on. one of— the bad news. if you were to try and stay on, one of his _ the bad news. if you were to try and stay on, one of his challenges - the bad news. if you were to try and stay on, one of his challenges as i the bad news. if you were to try and stay on, one of his challenges as he| stay on, one of his challenges as he needs to find enough allies to fill all of these vacancies that have been created by the resignations today. been created by the resignations toda . ~ , ,., , been created by the resignations toda . ~ , . been created by the resignations toda . ~ , ~ ., ., been created by the resignations toda . , ~ ., ., ., today. absolutely. and we have had a record number— today. absolutely. and we have had a record number of _ today. absolutely. and we have had a record number of resignation. - today. absolutely. and we have had a record number of resignation. i - record number of resignation. i think significantly, we have also see many of these loyal tory backbenchers come out today and say they have no confidence in the prime minister. that is a double problem for him. it means there are fewer people to fill these roles, but it also indicates that he really has lost a majority of the party, and if the cabinet can't push it, then i think we are looking at another vote of no confidence early next week. and in orderfor that of no confidence early next week. and in order for that vote of no confidence to happen, we would need a change to the 1922 committee's rules. do you think that is a formality?— rules. do you think that is a formali ? ., ., , ., ~ rules. do you think that is a formali ? ., ., , ., ,, ., formality? yeah, there was talk of it beini formality? yeah, there was talk of it being done _ formality? yeah, there was talk of it being done this _ formality? yeah, there was talk of it being done this evening. - formality? yeah, there was talk of it being done this evening. there i it being done this evening. there are elections to the committee chair, and following a meeting, as far as we understand, they have decided that they believe the selection should take place on monday, they have brought that forward. but immediately after that, they could change the rules, along another vote of no confidence, and then that might happen either on monday or certainly very early next week. . ~ monday or certainly very early next week. ., ,, , ., monday or certainly very early next week. ., ~' , ., , monday or certainly very early next week. ., ,, i. , . monday or certainly very early next week. . ~ , ., , . ., week. thank you very much indeed for the moment — week. thank you very much indeed for the moment for— week. thank you very much indeed for the moment for your _ week. thank you very much indeed for the moment for your help _ week. thank you very much indeed for the moment for your help in _ the moment for your help in this story. just before i bring in my next coly, jess phillips has treated... i know how borisjohnson feels, i keep trying to leave westminster but can't do it. i feel like i might be here on out. in politics, values and ethics don't really matter. britain deserves better, which is why have again attended a letter requesting a vote of confidence in the prime minister. that word again is interesting. that's get some help on that from david wallace lockhart. i'm assuming the reason that mp said again is that in orderfor a the reason that mp said again is that in order for a second vote of confidence to happen, but it need to be triggered all over again? that’s be triggered all over again? that's riiht. but be triggered all over again? that's right. but that — be triggered all over again? that's right. but that is _ be triggered all over again? that's right. but that is something - be triggered all over again? that's right. but that is something that l right. but that is something that conservative mps don't really seem to think would be a problem if things had to go down that route. as i came into parliament this evening, i came into parliament this evening, i spoke to one a long—standing critic of borisjohnson, and they said, it's over, but all know, the only person who doesn't is a boris johnson. and they said that even within the rebels in the party that is a hope that him resigning ridley to come as they put it, him going with her some shred of dignity, and that would be a preferential into this for all parties involved. but from what we have heard from boris johnson, he has had his weekly audience with the queen, he has talked about that mandate he won in the 2019 election, he has questioned whether any other conservative mp leading the party would be able to replicate that sort of election victory again, and it sounds like he is not going to voluntarily go, that mps may well have to force it and which of course would drag things potentially on into next week. itruiheh potentially on into next week. when ou sieak potentially on into next week. when you speak to — potentially on into next week. when you speak to some _ potentially on into next week. when you speak to some of _ potentially on into next week. when you speak to some of the _ you speak to some of the conservatives are now so boris johnson needs to go, those who say ethics and trustworthiness matter, what to do so when you are some, hold on, this isn't the first time these concerns have been raised about borisjohnson? find these concerns have been raised about boris johnson?— these concerns have been raised about boris johnson? and that is i think iuite about boris johnson? and that is i think quite a _ about boris johnson? and that is i think quite a stinging _ about boris johnson? and that is i think quite a stinging criticism - think quite a stinging criticism from many conservative mps. you don't have to go back to far, the owen paterson affair, partygate, to see times when borisjohnson's politicaljudgment didn't seem to be on, and many of his colleagues had to go out on tv programmes and radio programmes and defending. what has been notable with chris pincher affair and a number ten's changing story, and borisjohnson's changing position on that, it appears to be that for many of them it was simply the final straw. even the most loyal borisjohnson defenders, the ones who were quick to jump in front of tv cameras when he needed defending, that publicly, against him, and we have of coursing 38 members of the government who essentially sing, from cabinet ministers, from the mostjunior ranks, that they simply can't serve under him any longer. there are day continues to evolve. stay with me, david. the times are reporting that the home secretary has sided with a group of cabinet ministers who are calling for boris johnson to go. they are reporting that even though the home secretary is one of mrjohnson's loyal supporters, she believes it is no way he can continue to govern without the support of party. we are not able to confirm that, but the terms is reporting that priti patel, one of the most on supporters of borisjohnson, someone who boris johnson posted by when she faced allegations of bullying, now the times are reporting that she has concluded that borisjohnson can't continue to lead to more because there is no way he can continue to govern without the support of his party. that is a single source on that story, but if that is the case, and there is no reason to doubt the times's reporting, how does that fit into the narrative of the evening? priti patel is someone who has stood loyally by borisjohnson, and that is very interesting that the times are reporting that. and she are some of stood very loyally by her at points in recent months and years, that she has faced difficulty at home secretary. so, it would be a big development, but perhaps that is the way the tide seems to be gone. we know people who have traditionally supported the prime minister — nadhim zahawi, he appointed a chance at less than 24 hours grant shapps, someone currently transport secretary, who has always been willing to go out and defend the prime minister, or make as good a job of defending the payments of three schools as a cancer previous controversies, we believe they are now telling him to consider to discuss what has position. there are people like jacob rees—mogg, people like nadine dorries, i think it is unlikely they would never advise him to step down, but it does feel like those cabinet ministers who have been loyal for a long time, who have seen boris johnson through very choppy waters, now appear to think that with the number of resignations we have seen in the past 24 hours, it is simply unsustainable. for in the past 24 hours, it is simply unsustainable.— in the past 24 hours, it is simply unsustainable. ., ., ., ,, unsustainable. for the moment, thank ou for unsustainable. for the moment, thank you forjoining — unsustainable. for the moment, thank you forjoining us- _ unsustainable. for the moment, thank you forjoining us. as _ unsustainable. for the moment, thank you forjoining us. as we _ unsustainable. for the moment, thank you forjoining us. as we assess - you forjoining us. as we assess borisjohnson's you forjoining us. as we assess boris johnson's situation, you forjoining us. as we assess borisjohnson's situation, we are looking at secrets of people. we are looking at secrets of people. we are looking at secrets of people. we are looking at the cabinet, the most powerful people within the government and what they're saying to him, we are looking at as tory backbenchers, because if there is a vote of confidence, that outcome will be decided by all tory mps, not just those in cabinet. but the third group are tory supporters, because of course the calculation is taken by conservative mps right now is in part connected to how well they will do in the next election in two years or so, do in the next election in two years orso, not do in the next election in two years or so, not all can expect to his lead in them. our political correspondent has been speaking to tory supporters in rupture. at this local bistro, four conservatives from across the county have been watching closely as attention and froze in westminster. personally, i'm very disappointed in some of the members as well. last night, i was talking to residents and the stalwart supporters. they didn't mind him having a beer or something like that, but this, being to come is totally different.- to come is totally different. here, this eternity's _ to come is totally different. here, this eternity's response _ to come is totally different. here, this eternity's response to - this eternity's response to allegations about the deputy chief whip was the final straw and a longer life line to question the party's leadership.— party's leadership. what has happened — party's leadership. what has happened recently _ party's leadership. what has happened recently has - party's leadership. what has happened recently has been| party's leadership. what has i happened recently has been the party's leadership. what has - happened recently has been the final morat— happened recently has been the final moral and _ happened recently has been the final moral and emotional trigger for peopie — moral and emotional trigger for people to say enough is enough. any mps who— people to say enough is enough. any mps who continue to support him are complicit _ mps who continue to support him are complicit in _ mps who continue to support him are complicit in bringing the conservative party into disrepute. whatever— conservative party into disrepute. whatever electoral appeal he did have come — whatever electoral appeal he did have come and _ whatever electoral appeal he did have come and we _ whatever electoral appeal he did have come and we can't- whatever electoral appeal he did have come and we can't forget i whatever electoral appeal he did i have come and we can't forget that he did _ have come and we can't forget that he did deliver— have come and we can't forget that he did deliver brexit, _ have come and we can't forget that he did deliver brexit, whatever- have come and we can't forget that| he did deliver brexit, whatever your views _ he did deliver brexit, whatever your views on— he did deliver brexit, whatever your views on that — he did deliver brexit, whatever your views on that are. _ he did deliver brexit, whatever your views on that are. but _ he did deliver brexit, whatever your views on that are. but quite - views on that are. but quite frankly, _ views on that are. but quite frankly, he _ views on that are. but quite frankly, he has— views on that are. but quite frankly, he has had - views on that are. but quite frankly, he has had his - views on that are. but quite frankly, he has had his day. j views on that are. but quite - frankly, he has had his day. the feedback— frankly, he has had his day. the feedback i— frankly, he has had his day. the feedback i get— frankly, he has had his day. the feedback i get from _ frankly, he has had his day. the feedback i get from residents i frankly, he has had his day. the feedback i get from residents isj feedback i get from residents is that she — feedback i get from residents is that she is _ feedback i get from residents is that she is very— feedback i get from residents is that she is very much, - feedback i get from residents is that she is very much, we - feedback i get from residents is that she is very much, we can'tl that she is very much, we can't continue — that she is very much, we can't continue to— that she is very much, we can't continue to support _ that she is very much, we can't continue to support the - continue to support the conservatives. - continue to support the conservatives. it - continue to support the conservatives. it is - continue to support the conservatives. it is a i continue to support the - conservatives. it is a really dark time _ conservatives. it is a really dark time for— conservatives. it is a really dark time for the _ conservatives. it is a really dark time for the particle _ conservatives. it is a really dark time for the particle but- conservatives. it is a really dark time for the particle but i'm - conservatives. it is a really dark. time for the particle but i'm hoping that if— time for the particle but i'm hoping that if we _ time for the particle but i'm hoping that if we do— time for the particle but i'm hoping that if we do see _ time for the particle but i'm hoping that if we do see a _ time for the particle but i'm hoping that if we do see a change, - time for the particle but i'm hoping that if we do see a change, then. that if we do see a change, then that's— that if we do see a change, then that's wett— that if we do see a change, then that's well at _ that if we do see a change, then that's well at least _ that if we do see a change, then that's well at least give - that if we do see a change, then that's well at least give us - that if we do see a change, thenj that's well at least give us some credibility— that's well at least give us some credibility back. _ that's well at least give us some credibility back.— credibility back. these are a snapshot — credibility back. these are a snapshot of _ credibility back. these are a snapshot of years _ credibility back. these are a snapshot of years from - credibility back. these are a snapshot of years from the l credibility back. these are a - snapshot of years from the tory's southern heartland, but richard, county council leader and party memberfor more than county council leader and party member for more than 25 years, says he has had some are from colleagues more widely. the he has had some are from colleagues more widely-— more widely. the feeling was that the lack of honesty _ more widely. the feeling was that the lack of honesty it _ more widely. the feeling was that the lack of honesty it was - more widely. the feeling was that the lack of honesty it was just - the lack of honesty it was just eroding everyone's confidence, and that that in itself, it was too corrosive. it wasn't some sort of remainer plot, it was people saying, i'm sorry, your character is just not there. i'm sorry, your character is 'ust not there.�* i'm sorry, your character is 'ust not there. ~ ., ., , , . not there. what a different picture 'ust two not there. what a different picture just two and _ not there. what a different picture just two and a _ not there. what a different picture just two and a half— not there. what a different picture just two and a half years _ not there. what a different picture just two and a half years ago. - not there. what a different picture | just two and a half years ago. boris johnson on the campaign trail here before he swept to election victory. even now, some agree he does still have the public mandate. i iike even now, some agree he does still have the public mandate. i like him. i know a have the public mandate. i like him. i know a lot — have the public mandate. i like him. i know a lot of _ have the public mandate. i like him. i know a lot of people _ have the public mandate. i like him. i know a lot of people don't, - have the public mandate. i like him. i know a lot of people don't, but - have the public mandate. i like him. i know a lot of people don't, but i i i know a lot of people don't, but i don't want him to go. i i know a lot of people don't, but i don't want him to go.— i know a lot of people don't, but i don't want him to go. i was for him, but at the moment, _ don't want him to go. i was for him, but at the moment, i'm _ don't want him to go. i was for him, but at the moment, i'm just - don't want him to go. i was for him, but at the moment, i'm just not - but at the moment, i'm just not sure _ but at the moment, i'm just not sure i— but at the moment, i'm 'ust not sure. �* . but at the moment, i'm 'ust not sure. �* , ., ,_ but at the moment, i'm 'ust not sure. , ., , ., sure. i can't see anybody else that could look — sure. i can't see anybody else that could look after _ sure. i can't see anybody else that could look after the _ sure. i can't see anybody else that could look after the country - sure. i can't see anybody else that could look after the country like i could look after the country like boris _ could look after the country like boris does _ could look after the country like boris does. but— could look after the country like lzioris does-— could look after the country like boris does. but even in this tory territo , boris does. but even in this tory territory. thus — boris does. but even in this tory territory, thus wavering -- - boris does. but even in this tory j territory, thus wavering -- there boris does. but even in this tory i territory, thus wavering -- there is territory, thus wavering —— there is wavering. we are up to 38 resignations from borisjohnson's resignations from boris johnson's government. but we just looked behind me. every time i'm looking at the camera, just behind the camera, there are a huge group of photographers on stepladders waiting potentially for the shot that might be on the front pages tomorrow. and the rest alleges are almost thinking i should check what they are looking at. a quick reminder, we had that report from the times that priti patel has complained to boris johnson she can because mike feels he needs to step down because he doesn't have the support of the conservative party. just the term is reporting that at the moment. i let you see, tent ministers and aides had chosen to leave the government. that was after the cabinet minister sajid javid and rishi sunak had resigned. that was around 6pm yesterday evening. we are up to 38 resignations, including several ministers. they include will quince, the ministerfor ministers. they include will quince, the minister for children and families, he said in his resignation letter that he felt he had no choice but to quit after giving immediate —— media interviews having been assured that borisjohnson was not aware of the allegations against chris pincher. downing street was to acknowledge a to later that in fact she did know about that. in her resignation letter to the prime minister, safeguarding minister rachel maclean said that... "i have regretfully concluded that recent events demonstrate that while you remain in office... ..it will not be possible to make progress with this vitally important task". referring to her work to improve the rates of prosecutions for sexual offences. it definitely didn't stop there. also to go were thejustice minister victoria atkins, and jo churchill the environment minister, mims davies, the employment minister, the city ministerjohn glen, schools minister robin walker and minister for exports and minister for equalities mike freer. fivejunior ministers coordinated their resignations. julia lopez was a culture minister, lee rowley was a business minister. alex burghart was an education minister. kemi badenoch was a local government minister and neil o'brien was a levelling up minister. there was a lot of attention on michael gove. the daily mail was the first to go for this, sink michael gove has told the prime minister it is time to go. it has been noted he wasn't on the front benches for pmqs at lunchtime. the housing secretary also delivered the message to the prime minister this morning, said the newspaper. on the bbc understands that that is the case. that is a really significant moment, because michael gove isn'tjust one of the most senior members of the cabinet, he is also one of the most prominent brexiteers, and someone who previously had criticised boris johnson but then turned and supported him. it had been noted he was absent from pmqs yesterday he did choose to remain in the cabinet rather than resign. he is still in the cabinet now, but bear in mind, backin the cabinet now, but bear in mind, back in 2016, he famously withdrew his support from the borisjohnson's to become conservative leader and launched his own campaign. that was a contest that eventually saw theresa may become a prime minister. she would be replaced in time in scott pye borisjohnson. kit malthouse, a close up scuttle boris johnson was spotted leaving the cabinet and was met by waiting reporters. this is what played out. what is happening in there?” what is happening in there? i am not ioiin to, what is happening in there? i am not going to. any — what is happening in there? i am not going to, any further. _ what is happening in there? i am not going to, any further. you _ what is happening in there? i am not going to, any further. you must - what is happening in there? i am not going to, any further. you must be i going to, any further. you must be sad- you've _ going to, any further. you must be sad. you've been _ going to, any further. you must be sad. you've been with _ going to, any further. you must be sad. you've been with him - going to, any further. you must be sad. you've been with him all- going to, any further. you must be sad. you've been with him all the i sad. you've been with him all the way _ sad. you've been with him all the way it— sad. you've been with him all the way it is— sad. you've been with him all the way. it is over, is it not?- way. it is over, is it not? what is the mood? _ way. it is over, is it not? what is the mood? what _ way. it is over, is it not? what is the mood? what is _ way. it is over, is it not? what is the mood? what is the mood i way. it is over, is it not? what is - the mood? what is the mood inside? let's the mood? what is the mood inside? let's bring _ the mood? what is the mood inside? let's bring in — the mood? what is the mood inside? let's bring in rob— the mood? what is the mood inside? let's bring in rob watson— the mood? what is the mood inside? let's bring in rob watson come - the mood? what is the mood inside? let's bring in rob watson come out. let's bring in rob watson come out with me here in downing street. here we are again. first of all, priti patel with the times reporting that she has concluded mrjohnson needs to step aside. where do place that along all the other resignations and criticism from the last few minutes? in many ways, it's a drop in the eligible to draw all the various strands here together in westminster and what is one of the most extraordinary days i've experienced. been doing this on and off since the late 1980s, because what you sort of felt is probable since the prime minister's power, authority, leadershipjust minister's power, authority, leadership just draining away and his government collapsing and disintegrating before our very eyes. that's why i'm not in any way downplaying priti patel, the cap has come out. the downplaying priti patel, the cap has come out. .., , downplaying priti patel, the cap has come out. , ,, ,, ., come out. the cat is knocking at the door but so — come out. the cat is knocking at the door but so far _ come out. the cat is knocking at the door but so far not _ come out. the cat is knocking at the door but so far not being _ come out. the cat is knocking at the door but so far not being let - come out. the cat is knocking at the door but so far not being let in. - come out. the cat is knocking at the door but so far not being let in. we l door but so far not being let in. we reall door but so far not being let in. - really are at this a moment where this man if you look back and think about it, he has done that in british politics since the rep —— brexit referendum, the leave campaign he let in 2016 until this very moment and you get this sense of the time his leadership ebbing away, his prime minister ship and leadership of the conservative party. leadership of the conservative pa , ., , , leadership of the conservative pa , ., ,, ., , party. perhaps an edible in the middle of a _ party. perhaps an edible in the middle of a day _ party. perhaps an edible in the middle of a day like _ party. perhaps an edible in the middle of a day like this - party. perhaps an edible in the middle of a day like this will. party. perhaps an edible in the i middle of a day like this will also striking this is all about whether borisjohnson should stay or go, i'm not hearing any visions with the conservative party might want to become if he were to step down. ida i become if he were to step down. no i one imagines — become if he were to step down. tip i one imagines there is going to be all sorts of blood spilt after something like this because you don't go through a drama like this, you don't go through this trauma the conservative party is experiencing and just emerge the other side with we have landed on a new leader. but you are right to talk about the focus on his leadership and that is what has been interesting about this. going back to that pastor was talking about as a reporter here, withjohn major, when his leadership was under incredible pressure in the 19905, it was under incredible pressure in the 1990s, it was about policy. it was by the european union and britain and the relationship with the european union and yes there is a policy element but it's about boris johnson and his leadership and character and truthfulness. in many ways, what he has become for the conservative party is that most unfortunate of things which is an unpopular populist and that is a very unfortunate and difficult place to be. if very unfortunate and difficult place to be. w' very unfortunate and difficult place to be. . ,, ., ., very unfortunate and difficult place tobe. ., ., ,, to be. if the quick word on process was that mr _ to be. if the quick word on process was that mrjohnson _ to be. if the quick word on process was that mrjohnson repeatedly i to be. if the quick word on process| was that mrjohnson repeatedly has said he would not go anywhere if it does not take the advice of some of his colleagues and says i'm staying with a big majority in a big mandate thank you very much, how did the conservatives if they want to go about removing him?— conservatives if they want to go about removing him? they change the rules that leadership _ about removing him? they change the rules that leadership contest... - rules that leadership contest... they will not do that today, are they because there was a regulation that would happen. the they because there was a regulation that would happen.— that would happen. the timing is neither here _ that would happen. the timing is neither here nor _ that would happen. the timing is neither here nor there, - that would happen. the timing is neither here nor there, really, i that would happen. the timing is| neither here nor there, really, it's that they can do it and no doubt that he does not resign. and then there will be a vote, and as things stand, i don't think there is any doubt among conservatives i speak to that he would lose. so to typify this coming i need to over complicate it, borisjohnson is like a chess player and most of his pieces have gone and he is the king and there are not many moves left and it is resignation at this point or almost certainly losing at the hands of a confidence vote of his own conservative in the coming days. he was under come up with a third one but we will see if he manages it and we will leave it there for the moment. a reminder that here we all are in in downing street keeping a close eye on the store because a number of cabinet ministers have gone into the seat borisjohnson to say it is time for you to go but when asked, he said he would not go anywhere. one person who triggered the whole process was sajid javid who resigned about 6pm yesterday has said he would no longer give the prime minister one more chance having repeatedly done so over lockdown parties and now over the handling of the allegations against chris pincher was to be turned again to the issue of trust when speaking in the house of commons, the fact that ministers had repeatedly sent out to make same as what the prime minister and with the promise or knew about the allegations were never tend to only admit actually they were not true. and now this week again we have reason to question the truth and integrity of what we've all been told. and at some point, we have to conclude that enough is enough. i believe that point is now. i welcome the prime minister's public acknowledgement last night that matters could have been handled better in who he appointed out what was said about what he knew when. and i appreciated his kind and humble words and his humble spirit when i went to see him yesterday and also the kind letter he sent to me. but i do fear that the reset button could only work so many times. there is only many so many times you can turn the machine off before you realise that something is fundamentally wrong. lester back issue about priti patel. a report from the times. many say he believes there is no can govern with the support of his party. i was not able to confirm it by our political editor chris mason is now is saying the home secretary has told the premised or he should resign because say with some certainty now that the home secretary priti patel, extraordinary when boris johnson stood by her when she was in trouble over building allegations to announce a new should go. battery b of sky news who was alongside me here says jacob rees—mogg has gone into number ten and we are hearing for the labour mp who says the government has had to cancel bill committees due to take place in parliament tomorrow because they now don't have enough ministers to attend. so there is an awful lot going in and let's take a moment to pause and consider what has played out in this extraordinary day? it was the morning after the resignations the night before. health secretary sajid javid had gone. so had chancellor rishi sunak. and those reading the daily telegraph first thing on wednesday saw a column by the former cabinet minister lord frost. as we considered that warning, the new chancellor nadhim zahawi went on the bbc�*s today programme at 8am. all i would say to you is that to the best of my knowledge, i told the truth. the problem is that for days number 10's explanation hadn't been true, or as the bbc�*s chris mason said... mr zahawi was asked about that. he was also asked his approach to his newjob. i will review everything, i will be the evidence—led chancellor, and my priority will be to bear down on inflation. "evidence—led," said mr zahawi. it wasn't clear if he was suggesting that was a point of difference how others approached the job. either way, while the chancellor talked the bbc, the resignations kept coming. as we have been speaking, there has been another resignation. laura trott— been another resignation. laura trott has— been another resignation. laura trott has resigned. i'm sorry to lose any conservative and sorry to lose a talented member of parliament like laura trott. moments later, the same thing happened again. nick robinson informed mr zahawi that minister will quince had now resigned. i'm sorry to see will quince go. he was my children and families minister and a great minister. all i would say to colleagues is people don't vote for divided teams. and at 10:10am, mp chris skidmore posted his no—confidence letter, in which he wrote... borisjohnson denies a cover—up relating to chris pincher, but through the morning, the calls for him to go continued. at around 11:10am, the mp tom huntjoined in. the sun's political editor harry cole called him "the loyalist�*s loyalist". saying this was �*a very bad sign for the pm". and the bbc�*s lewis goodall put it, the resignations were now coming from "every wing of the party". including justice minister victoria atkins. at around 11:30, her resignation letter stated... by this point, 16th mps had resigned from the government. and we heard from tory mp lee anderson. i'm gutted for the prime minister because i think he's done a great job and i'm a massive supporter of him, but at the end of the day, we can't allow this sort of stuff to go on — in that vein, some mps were starting to organise. at 11:45am, jason groves of the daily mail reported... and with the minutes ticking down to prime minister's questions, sebastian payne of the ft assessed borisjohnson's mindset. there's one cabinet - minister i spoke to today who said his fingernailsi are in the windowframes of downing street and he will have to be dragged out. _ moments later, prime minister's questions began, with opposition leader keir starmer on the attack. anyone quitting now, after defending all that, hasn't got a shred of integrity. the prime minister gave this response. he talks about integrity. he voted 48 times to overturn the will of the people and take us back into the european union. and as pmqs played out, another resignation, number 17, arrived. jo churchill wrote... meanwhile, keir starmer continued his attacks. as for those who are left, only in office because no one else is prepared to debase themselves any longer, the charge of the lightweight brigade. have some self—respect. the attacks came from tories, too. does the prime minister think there are any circumstances l in which he should resign? and as the criticism mounted, boris johnson insisted he would carry on. thejob of a prime minister in difficult circumstances, when he's been handed a colossal mandate, is to keep going, and that's what i'm going to do! watching pmqs was daily mirror's pippa crerar. she had a question. it wasn't clear. certainly not by borisjohnson on the front bench. and as we all digested pmqs, within minutes, sajid javid was explaining his resignation. treading the tightrope between loyalty and integrity has become impossible in recent months. and, mr speaker, i will never risk losing my integrity. and then mrjavid cut to the chase. we have to conclude that enough is enough. i believe that point is now. as mrjavid sat down, mrjohnson left the chamber, and the speaker had a message, as did labour mps. there will be no more personal statements today. bye, boris! bye! just after after 1 o'clock, a government spokesperson dealt with the idea of saying goodbye. would mrjohnson contest and win a confidence vote? yes, was the answer. but by now, ministers were resigning in groups. five ministers wrote this in their resignations broke the total to 26. and by half past two, sky news' political editor beth rigby had this update. that minister was in the trenches, at 3pm the prime minister was at a parliamentary select committee. it included a range of subjects, including a question on food production tbc. the pm had this update. we had the fertiliser roundtable recently and we'll see what we can try to do to help. one of those asking the questions opted for some multi—tasking. while mp huw merriman was talking about fuel duty, on social media, he released a letter of no confidence. and while borisjohnson talked with the committee the situation escalated again. and about 4:20pm, the bbc�*s political reporter ione wells tweeted this. back in the room, after more than an hour on other matters, the mps turned to mr johnson's predicament. how is your week going? terrific. he was then asked if cabinet minister michael gove had told him to stand down. i think ithinki i think i said earlier, sir bernard, that i'm here to talk about what government is doing and not giving a running commentary on political events. he running commentary on political events. . . running commentary on political events. ., , ., .,' running commentary on political events. ., , ., .g ., events. he was not offering a runnini events. he was not offering a running commentary - events. he was not offering a running commentary but - events. he was not offering a running commentary but the | events. he was not offering a - running commentary but the questions kept coming? at which point does it become impossibie _ at which point does it become impossible for— at which point does it become impossible for the _ impossible for the queen's government— impossible for the queen's government to _ impossible for the queen's government to be - impossible for the queen's. government to be continued? impossible for the queen's- government to be continued? the? government to be continued? they want to get — government to be continued? they want to get things _ government to be continued? want to get things done government to be continued? tip;- want to get things done and government to be continued?- want to get things done and things done for their constituents and the government is being done with increasing energy. it government is being done with increasing energy.— government is being done with increasing energy. it seems they want one thing _ increasing energy. it seems they want one thing done _ increasing energy. it seems they want one thing done at - increasing energy. it seems they want one thing done at this - increasing energy. it seems they - want one thing done at this moment in time, _ want one thing done at this moment in time, i_ want one thing done at this moment intime, iagree— want one thing done at this moment in time, i agree with _ want one thing done at this moment in time, i agree with you _ want one thing done at this moment in time, i agree with you on- want one thing done at this moment in time, i agree with you on that. i then it was reported that the new chancellor made it wanted to get things done. this has not been confirmed there were any number of reports and rumours emerging. mr johnson did not know about the guess he was busy fending off questions about whether he would dissolve parliament and call an election? rule it out? {lit parliament and call an election? rule it out?— rule it out? of course i rule it out. rule it out? of course i rule it out- the _ rule it out? of course i rule it out. the earliest _ rule it out? of course i rule it out. the earliest date - rule it out? of course i rule it out. the earliest date i - rule it out? of course i rule it out. the earliest date i can i rule it out? of course i rule it| out. the earliest date i can see for a general election is two years from now. . . a general election is two years from now. , , ., . ., ., , now. the premise are clear that up and the times _ now. the premise are clear that up and the times political— now. the premise are clear that up and the times political editor- now. the premise are clear that up and the times political editor had i and the times political editor had a further update saying... also can administer nadine dorries when into number ten and we heard from another ally, jacob rees—mogg is he going to resign? the from another ally, jacob rees-mogg is he going to resign?— is he going to resign? the premise or has my full _ is he going to resign? the premise or has my full support. _ is he going to resign? the premise or has my full support. and - is he going to resign? the premise or has my full support. and so - is he going to resign? the premise or has my full support. and so at l or has my full support. and so at 745 this wednesday _ or has my full support. and so at 745 this wednesday evening - or has my full support. and so at| 745 this wednesday evening after three years of leaving the party to a large majority, more and more mps are trying to end borisjohnson's time and number ten. you can get further updates to the bbc news life page, pvc dock, slash news and boris johnson we should emphasise he has some support on the back benches this is the mp peter bowen. if you look at the last 2.5 years, boris has delivered brexit. - people said could not deliver brexit. - he had the first vaccination in the western world, - which is protected billions. of people across the world. we have the lowest - unemployment for 50 years. he is ending the illegal- migration across from europe. he has led, not everyone agrees on this, _ has led you're a's- response to the terrible, has led europe's response to the terrible, terrible war in ukraine. | and today, today, we have - the biggest tax cut for decades. so, that's a prettyj good record, and i think anyone objectively looking at that will say i done a very good job. if we do that for the next two i years, then we will win the next general election. the pace of this story today has been unrelenting. from the very start. in the past two minutes and other development. the energy minister has been seen here in whitehall where reporters asked him questions and this is what he said. i am. �* questions and this is what he said. i am. . ., questions and this is what he said. i am. �* ., , ., ~' questions and this is what he said. iam. , questions and this is what he said. iam. i am. and do you think boris johnson should still be _ i am. and do you think boris johnson should still be prime _ i am. and do you think boris johnson should still be prime minister? - i am. and do you think boris johnson should still be prime minister? yes, | should still be prime minister? yes, i do. he should still be prime minister? yes, i do- he is — should still be prime minister? yes, ido- he is the _ should still be prime minister? yes, i do. he is the prime _ should still be prime minister? is: i do. he is the prime minister and there is no vacancy at the moment. can ijust get to there is no vacancy at the moment. can i just get to where there is no vacancy at the moment. can ijust get to where i'm trying to get to please? let can i just get to where i'm trying to get to please?— to get to please? let speak to a liberal democrat, _ to get to please? let speak to a liberal democrat, formerly - liberal democrat, formerly conservative mp and was part of the 1922 committee. thank you very much forjoining us and i wonder what your emotions are as you watch this play out this evening. he your emotions are as you watch this play out this evening.— play out this evening. he does remind me _ play out this evening. he does remind me of— play out this evening. he does remind me of what _ play out this evening. he does remind me of what happened i play out this evening. he does i remind me of what happened in play out this evening. he does - remind me of what happened in 2019 when then— remind me of what happened in 2019 when then a — remind me of what happened in 2019 when then a similar _ remind me of what happened in 2019 when then a similar situation - remind me of what happened in 2019 when then a similar situation of - when then a similar situation of discussing — when then a similar situation of discussing a _ when then a similar situation of discussing a rule _ when then a similar situation of discussing a rule change - when then a similar situation of discussing a rule change and i discussing a rule change and resignations— discussing a rule change and resignations by— discussing a rule change and resignations by boris - discussing a rule change andl resignations by boris johnson discussing a rule change and - resignations by boris johnson and david _ resignations by boris johnson and david davis — resignations by boris johnson and david davis at _ resignations by boris johnson and david davis at that _ resignations by boris johnson and david davis at that time. - resignations by boris johnson and david davis at that time. but - resignations by boris johnson and david davis at that time. but the i david davis at that time. but the sheer— david davis at that time. but the sheer volume _ david davis at that time. but the sheer volume of— david davis at that time. but the sheer volume of resignations - david davis at that time. but the l sheer volume of resignations that are happening— sheer volume of resignations that are happening now— sheer volume of resignations that are happening now and _ sheer volume of resignations that are happening now and at - sheer volume of resignations that are happening now and at all- sheer volume of resignations that i are happening now and at all levels of government _ are happening now and at all levels of government from _ are happening now and at all levels of government from all— are happening now and at all levels of government from all wings - are happening now and at all levels of government from all wings of. are happening now and at all levelsl of government from all wings of the party i _ of government from all wings of the party i think— of government from all wings of the party i think signified _ of government from all wings of the party i think signified that _ of government from all wings of the party i think signified that it's - party i think signified that it's the end — party i think signified that it's the end for— party i think signified that it's the end for boris— party i think signified that it's the end for borisjohnson. . party i think signified that it'si the end for borisjohnson. and party i think signified that it's - the end for borisjohnson. and he needs— the end for borisjohnson. and he needs to — the end for borisjohnson. and he needs to stop _ the end for borisjohnson. and he needs to stop cleaning _ the end for borisjohnson. and he needs to stop cleaning to - the end for borisjohnson. and he needs to stop cleaning to that - needs to stop cleaning to that window— needs to stop cleaning to that window ledge _ needs to stop cleaning to that window ledge he _ needs to stop cleaning to that window ledge he was - needs to stop cleaning to that window ledge he was holdingl needs to stop cleaning to that - window ledge he was holding onto a downing _ window ledge he was holding onto a downing street _ window ledge he was holding onto a downing street he _ window ledge he was holding onto a downing street he was _ window ledge he was holding onto a downing street he was that - window ledge he was holding onto a downing street he was that he - window ledge he was holding onto a downing street he was that he is. window ledge he was holding onto a| downing street he was that he is not han- downing street he was that he is not hang onto a — downing street he was that he is not hang onto a window ledge _ downing street he was that he is not hang onto a window ledge but - downing street he was that he is not hang onto a window ledge but is - hang onto a window ledge but is basing _ hang onto a window ledge but is basing his — hang onto a window ledge but is basing his power— hang onto a window ledge but is basing his power on _ hang onto a window ledge but is basing his power on the - hang onto a window ledge but is basing his power on the large i hang onto a window ledge but is i basing his power on the large boat he received — basing his power on the large boat he received in _ basing his power on the large boat he received in 2019. _ basing his power on the large boat he received in 2019. well, - basing his power on the large boat he received in 2019. well, there i basing his power on the large boat he received in 2019. well, there isj he received in 2019. well, there is no doubt _ he received in 2019. well, there is no doubt that _ he received in 2019. well, there is no doubt that he _ he received in 2019. well, there is no doubt that he did _ he received in 2019. well, there is no doubt that he did receive - he received in 2019. well, there is no doubt that he did receive a - he received in 2019. well, there isi no doubt that he did receive a large boat in _ no doubt that he did receive a large boat in 2019, largely _ no doubt that he did receive a large boat in 2019, largely because - no doubt that he did receive a large boat in 2019, largely because manyj boat in 2019, largely because many peopie _ boat in 2019, largely because many peopie did — boat in 2019, largely because many peopie did not _ boat in 2019, largely because many people did not want _ boat in 2019, largely because many people did not wantjeremy- boat in 2019, largely because many people did not want jeremy corbynl boat in 2019, largely because many. people did not want jeremy corbyn as prime _ people did not want jeremy corbyn as prime minister — people did not want jeremy corbyn as prime minister. and _ people did not want jeremy corbyn as prime minister. and so _ people did not want jeremy corbyn as prime minister. and so they- people did not want jeremy corbyn as prime minister. and so they turned i prime minister. and so they turned out in _ prime minister. and so they turned out in their— prime minister. and so they turned out in their droves _ prime minister. and so they turned out in their droves to _ prime minister. and so they turned out in their droves to make - prime minister. and so they turned out in their droves to make sure i out in their droves to make sure that that — out in their droves to make sure that that did _ out in their droves to make sure that that did not— out in their droves to make sure that that did not happen. - out in their droves to make sure that that did not happen. and i out in their droves to make sure - that that did not happen. and people vote for— that that did not happen. and people vote for a _ that that did not happen. and people vote for a party _ that that did not happen. and people vote for a party. you _ that that did not happen. and people vote for a party. you don't _ that that did not happen. and people vote for a party. you don't have - that that did not happen. and people vote for a party. you don't have a - vote for a party. you don't have a presidential— vote for a party. you don't have a presidential style system - vote for a party. you don't have a presidential style system here i vote for a party. you don't have a presidential style system here in| presidential style system here in the uk — presidential style system here in the uk and _ presidential style system here in the uk and i_ presidential style system here in the uk. and i think— presidential style system here in the uk. and i think the - presidential style system here in the uk. and i think the points i presidential style system here in i the uk. and i think the points that ministers are _ the uk. and i think the points that ministers are making _ the uk. and i think the points that ministers are making as _ the uk. and i think the points that ministers are making as they- ministers are making as they resigned. _ ministers are making as they resigned. the _ ministers are making as they resigned, the lack— ministers are making as they resigned, the lack of- ministers are making as they. resigned, the lack of integrity, ministers are making as they- resigned, the lack of integrity, the attacks— resigned, the lack of integrity, the attacks on— resigned, the lack of integrity, the attacks on our— resigned, the lack of integrity, the attacks on our institutions, - resigned, the lack of integrity, the attacks on our institutions, the - attacks on our institutions, the inability— attacks on our institutions, the inability to— attacks on our institutions, the inability to deliver— attacks on our institutions, the inability to deliver effectively l attacks on our institutions, the i inability to deliver effectively for the peopie — inability to deliver effectively for the peopie of— inability to deliver effectively for the people of this _ inability to deliver effectively for the people of this country, and i the people of this country, and that's— the people of this country, and that's his — the people of this country, and that's his own _ the people of this country, and that's his own party— the people of this country, and that's his own party speaking, i that's his own party speaking, that's— that's his own party speaking, that's not— that's his own party speaking, that's not opposition - that's his own party speaking, that's not opposition mps - that's his own party speaking, i that's not opposition mps saying that _ that's not opposition mps saying that that's— that's not opposition mps saying that. that's his _ that's not opposition mps saying that. that's his own— that's not opposition mps saying that. that's his own mps- that's not opposition mps saying that. that's his own mps and - that's not opposition mps saying that. that's his own mps and ii that's not opposition mps saying. that. that's his own mps and i think peopie _ that. that's his own mps and i think peopie in— that. that's his own mps and i think peopie in the — that. that's his own mps and i think people in the country— that. that's his own mps and i think people in the country can _ that. that's his own mps and i think people in the country can see - that. that's his own mps and i think people in the country can see and i people in the country can see and believe. — people in the country can see and believe. there _ people in the country can see and believe, there was _ people in the country can see and believe, there was a _ people in the country can see and believe, there was a poll- people in the country can see and. believe, there was a poll yesterday which _ believe, there was a poll yesterday which said — believe, there was a poll yesterday which said 69% — believe, there was a poll yesterday which said 69% of _ believe, there was a poll yesterday which said 69% of the _ believe, there was a poll yesterday which said 69% of the public - believe, there was a poll yesterdayi which said 69% of the public believe thatjohnson— which said 69% of the public believe thatjohnson should _ which said 69% of the public believe that johnson should resign - which said 69% of the public believe that johnson should resign and - which said 69% of the public believe that johnson should resign and he i thatjohnson should resign and he should _ thatjohnson should resign and he should now— thatjohnson should resign and he should now accept _ thatjohnson should resign and he should now accept the _ thatjohnson should resign and he should now accept the inevitable i that johnson should resign and he i should now accept the inevitable and lo. should now accept the inevitable and go he _ should now accept the inevitable and i o, , should now accept the inevitable and oi, , ., should now accept the inevitable and i0. , ., , ., ., , should now accept the inevitable and i0. should now accept the inevitable and go. he is not showing any signs so far of excepting — go. he is not showing any signs so far of excepting these _ go. he is not showing any signs so far of excepting these requests i go. he is not showing any signs so | far of excepting these requests and he evidently does not think it is inevitable. part of this story is the 1922 committee and people who don't follow westchester politics and detail want to sincerely know an awful lot about how it works. you have experience of that so tell us how it works. you have experience of that sotelo found this committee which represents backbench tory mps fits in to the way that the conservative party selects its leader. ~ .., leader. well, the committee effectively — leader. well, the committee effectively runs _ leader. well, the committee effectively runs elections - leader. well, the committee effectively runs elections for| effectively runs elections for ieader— effectively runs elections for leader of— effectively runs elections for leader of the _ effectively runs elections for leader of the conservative i effectively runs elections for- leader of the conservative party. and it's — leader of the conservative party. and it's the _ leader of the conservative party. and it's the trade _ leader of the conservative party. and it's the trade union- leader of the conservative party. i and it's the trade union effectively of the _ and it's the trade union effectively of the conservative _ and it's the trade union effectively of the conservative party. - and it's the trade union effectively of the conservative party. it's - and it's the trade union effectively of the conservative party. it's a i of the conservative party. it's a selection — of the conservative party. it's a selection of _ of the conservative party. it's a selection of backbench - of the conservative party. it's a selection of backbench mps. i of the conservative party. it's a i selection of backbench mps. the electorate — selection of backbench mps. the electorate for _ selection of backbench mps. the electorate for the _ selection of backbench mps. the electorate for the 1922 _ selection of backbench mps. the i electorate for the 1922 committee does not — electorate for the 1922 committee does not include _ electorate for the 1922 committee does not include government - does not include government ministers, _ does not include government ministers, although - does not include government ministers, although there - does not include governmentj ministers, although there are obviously— ministers, although there are obviously a _ ministers, although there are obviously a lot _ ministers, although there are obviously a lot of— ministers, although there are obviously a lot of vacancies i ministers, although there are | obviously a lot of vacancies at ministers, although there are - obviously a lot of vacancies at the moment— obviously a lot of vacancies at the moment in— obviously a lot of vacancies at the moment in terms _ obviously a lot of vacancies at the moment in terms of— obviously a lot of vacancies at the moment in terms of governmentl moment in terms of government ministers — moment in terms of government ministers so. _ moment in terms of government ministers. so, whether— moment in terms of government ministers. so, whetherwe- moment in terms of government ministers. so, whether we will. moment in terms of government i ministers. so, whether we will see somebody— ministers. so, whether we will see somebody who _ ministers. so, whether we will see somebody who were _ ministers. so, whether we will seei somebody who were backbenchers, ministers. so, whether we will see - somebody who were backbenchers, we don't know _ somebody who were backbenchers, we don't know but — somebody who were backbenchers, we don't know but it's _ somebody who were backbenchers, we don't know but it's clear— somebody who were backbenchers, we don't know but it's clear the _ somebody who were backbenchers, we don't know but it's clear the 22 - don't know but it's clear the 22 will decide to _ don't know but it's clear the 22 will decide to act _ don't know but it's clear the 22 will decide to act quickly - don't know but it's clear the 22 will decide to act quickly and i don't know but it's clear the 22 i will decide to act quickly and they have done — will decide to act quickly and they have done. they— will decide to act quickly and they have done. they moved - will decide to act quickly and they have done. they moved the - will decide to act quickly and they. have done. they moved the election of the _ have done. they moved the election of the new— have done. they moved the election of the new committee _ have done. they moved the election of the new committee forward - have done. they moved the election of the new committee forward to - have done. they moved the electionl of the new committee forward to this weeki _ of the new committee forward to this week, ithink— of the new committee forward to this week, i think nominations _ of the new committee forward to this week, i think nominations opened . week, i think nominations opened today~ _ week, i think nominations opened today and — week, i think nominations opened today. and once _ week, i think nominations opened today. and once the _ week, i think nominations opened today. and once the new- week, i think nominations opened i today. and once the new committee has been _ today. and once the new committee has been elected, _ today. and once the new committee has been elected, the _ today. and once the new committee has been elected, the new- today. and once the new committee has been elected, the new 1922 - has been elected, the new 1922 committee, _ has been elected, the new 1922 committee, they— has been elected, the new 1922 committee, they will— has been elected, the new 1922 committee, they will have - has been elected, the new 1922 committee, they will have to i committee, they will have to consider— committee, they will have to consider whether— committee, they will have to consider whether or - committee, they will have to consider whether or not - committee, they will have to consider whether or not to i committee, they will have to| consider whether or not to do committee, they will have to - consider whether or not to do the real change — consider whether or not to do the real change to _ consider whether or not to do the real change to willed _ consider whether or not to do the real change to willed up - consider whether or not to do the real change to willed up a - real change to willed up a second vote of— real change to willed up a second vote of no—confidence _ real change to willed up a second vote of no—confidence in - real change to willed up a second vote of no—confidence in the - real change to willed up a second i vote of no—confidence in the prime minister _ vote of no-confidence in the prime minister. . .. vote of no-confidence in the prime minister. ., ,, , ., , . minister. thank you very much indeed for “oinini minister. thank you very much indeed forjoining us- — minister. thank you very much indeed forjoining us. yes, _ minister. thank you very much indeed forjoining us. yes, there _ minister. thank you very much indeed forjoining us. yes, there were - minister. thank you very much indeed forjoining us. yes, there were some. forjoining us. yes, there were some reports and perhaps that vote on a rule change allowing a second vote of confidence could happen today but that does not like it is going to happen and we think it will happen on monday though nothing is very start at the moment. don't hold me that but that is what is happening. a couple of other updates for you. douglas ross who leads the scottish conservatives, a regular guy boris johnson chemist is more and more of his colleagues now agree with him that boris johnson his colleagues now agree with him that borisjohnson should resign. nadine dorries commit when you speak to bbc? do you think the prime minister should stay? host to bbc? do you think the prime minister should stay? how many children does _ minister should stay? how many children does he have? - minister should stay? how many i children does he have? laughter. well... is much _ children does he have? laughter. well... is much as— children does he have? laughter. well... is much as i _ children does he have? laughter. well... is much as i can _ children does he have? laughter. well... is much as i can make - children does he have? laughter. well... is much as i can make it. well... is much as i can make it out, it hunted like nadine dorries was saying that she was still offering her support to the prime minister and when i watch the clip back it was difficult to make out. couple of things there but did not sound a little at a woman who was emerging to tell us that she had switched sides and now thought boris johnson should go but we will double check on that but with a couple of words, nadine dorries, and port number of borisjohnson's cabinet number of boris johnson's cabinet has number of borisjohnson's cabinet has headed off. yesterday after she went to seat boris johnson has headed off. yesterday after she went to seat borisjohnson committee tweeted and must�*ve been in the cargo that was only in a couple of minutes of her leaving him and she said i'm a how minutes of her leaving him she said i'm100% on the prime minister we will see if you tweet something in the coming minutes. i was mentioning douglas ross, leader of the conservative in scotland, safe borisjohnson should go. he declined to say who he would support and a tory leadership election as we have not gotten to that stage yet and we went to see who else comes out of the store, lets us into a little bit of prime minister's questions earlier. you would for the government to continue with its job and focus on the things we could do for the country. the labour leader, sir keir starmer, had this message for mrjohnson's remaining supporters in government. and those who are left, only in office because no one is prepared to debase themselves any longer, the _ charge of the lightweight brigade. laughter. have some self—respect. in the middle of a crisis, doesn't the country deserve better than a z—list cast of nodding dogs? tim loughton was among the backbench tory mps who weren't holding any punches when it came to criticising borisjohnson. does the prime minister think there are any circumstances in which he i should resign? laughter. this is what the mp for birmingham northfield and member some of the clip from earlier in prime minister's questions. david simmons says the premonition should go as a message as been very clear from colleagues and on the issue of the 1922 committee, he said there were a couple who could agree that he should not go on but other than that i think there was a strong view across the piece. one member of the 1922 committee said not many were arguing for borisjohnson and this tour is evolving sp and we are waiting to hear more on the discussions happening inside number ten between borisjohnson and his most senior cabinet ministers priti patel, suggesting he should go and nadine dorries looks like she is still supporting him we will keep you up—to—date as it continues to roll. hello. if you've been tracking the weather forecast on your weather app for the next few days, you may have seen that the temperature is expected to rise quite significantly. not everywhere in the uk, mostly across the south. in fact, we are increasingly confident that a heat wave is on the way, and it's likely to affect the southern half of the british isles. now, in the short—term, it's cloudy and relatively cool. in fact, in the north of the country, recently we've had some spots of rain, and it's weather systems riding around this area of high pressure. the settled weather is way to the south of us, but this high is expected to eventually build across the uk. the jet stream will be quite far north, and this high pressure will be responsible for spreading some very hot air in our direction. but this isn't going to happen right away. in fact, if anything, if you look at the wind arrows, they're coming in from the north, so relatively fresh north atlantic air. but having said that, temperatures in the morning on thursday, 14 in belfast, 15—16 in the south of the country, so it's not all that fresh. now, the morning is going to be fairly cloudy, but sunshine will develop from midday onwards, and a beautiful day, i think, along the north sea coast, the south coast, too. inland, it'll be sunny as well. very pleasant temperatures, 18—22 for many of us, mid—20s across the south and the south east. now, this is the forecast for friday, and a little bit of cloud and rain maybe in the north west of the uk, but once again, it's a mostly warm and sunny day. and actually turning quite hot in some of the bigger towns and cities in the south, london there at 28 degrees. and we are very confident that it's going to be a very warm and sunny weekend across many parts of the uk. beautiful weather around coastal areas as this area of high pressure noses in off the atlantic. the winds will start to fall light. and it will be cloudy at times in north—western parts of scotland, maybe some spots of rain there in stornoway. but look at these temperatures, around 22 in hull, 27 degrees expected in london. and the following day is going to get even hotter. and actually if you look at the outlook for the week ahead, we're expecting temperatures to be in excess of 30 degrees most of the week in many southern towns and cities. never really gets too hot in the north. i think pleasantly warm is the best way to describe it. iam ros i am ros atkins. book back to downing street. he been here a few times in last few months, but this is without doubt the most perilous situation borisjohnson has been in since he became prime minister. there been resignations from the government through the day and there's been a lot of support among his backbenchers too. these are just some of the tory ministers and aides who have sent in letters of resignations. we are at 38 and counting for stubhub and it ministers have been heading into number 10 in ministers have been heading into number10 in the ministers have been heading into number 10 in the last few hours. some of them had a message for boris johnson that it is time to go. the bbc understands home secretary pretty bussell is the latest doing that call. this follows a devastating speech in the comments from now the former health secretary —— home secretary priti patel. at —— home secretary priti patel. git some point, we have to conclude that enough is enough. i believe that point is now. just enough is enough. i believe that point is now— enough is enough. i believe that point is now. just before that, in prime minister's _ point is now. just before that, in prime minister's questions, - point is now. just before that, in | prime minister's questions, boris johnson had faced the labour leader sir keir starmer, who had offered his criticism.— his criticism. this is the first case of the _ his criticism. this is the first case of the sinking - his criticism. this is the first case of the sinking ship - his criticism. this is the first i case of the sinking ship fleeing his criticism. this is the first - case of the sinking ship fleeing the rats _ case of the sinking ship fleeing the rats he— case of the sinking ship fleeing the rats. . . case of the sinking ship fleeing the rats. , , ., , . ., case of the sinking ship fleeing the rats. , , ., , .., ., rats. he insisted he was coming on. prime minister, _ rats. he insisted he was coming on. prime minister, how— rats. he insisted he was coming on. prime minister, how is _ rats. he insisted he was coming on. prime minister, how is your - rats. he insisted he was coming on. prime minister, how is your week i prime minister, how is your week going? _ prime minister, how is your week ioiin ? . .. prime minister, how is your week ioiin? . ,, ., , prime minister, how is your week ioiin? . ,, ., i. , let's just update you on a couple of things before we work our way through this story and we are going to be here in downing street at this story evolves over the next few hours. you can get updates on the bbc life page or on the bbc news website. couple of details, we note cabinet ministers have been a number 10, we saw nadine dorries at couple of minutes ago. asked if she supported the prime minister, she said, yes, definitely. the prime minister is facing ministers one at this time rather than a delegation, so clearly wanting to sound out each of them. rory stewart has said, larry the downing street cat at the moment would be a better prime minister. he said that to cnn, although it is worth saying rory stewart has been, shall we say, an enthusiastic critic of portions of her sometime so that is not a surprise. this is interesting, itv saying, she is told of the prime minister is defined will not resign. colleagues said it was a choice between economic growth and in the ship contest and chaos. he is under severe pressure and these are the numbers. —— and a vision problem. at least 38 ministers and needs have said they will no longer serve, they have resigned from the government. the bbc understands home secretary priti patel, who he is emphasised as not resigned, has called for him to go. here's the tweet, saying... remember, the way parliamentary system works in the uk, if you are the prime minister, you need to supportive mps who are in parliament. also in that group, according to the prime minister press association, the northern ireland secretary brandon lewis. it had been reported he was with the group going in, but he was delayed. the news agency also reported mr lewis is prepared to tell mrjohnson his position is untenable and he should leave downing street. it should leave downing street. it should be familiar message because he's been hearing it repeatedly. also grant shapps, the transport secretary, was also in this group. bearin secretary, was also in this group. bear in mind, go back a month, we bear in mind, go backa month, we are standing here, bear in mind, go back a month, we are standing here, talking about that confidence about mrjohnson faced, that he won with 59% of his mps backing him, the person responsible for, he was backing the prime minister was grant shapps, but now he is part of this group suggesting the time may be up. kwasi kwarteng has also told the chief web he thinks borisjohnson should go —— the chief weapon. i should also mention michael gove, a huge figure in this government. prominent brexiteer dating back to 2016, a big piece of borisjohnson's cabinet, was not on the front bench for prime minister's questions. we understand he has told the prime minister time is up. all of this spiral from a moment around 6pm yesterday, and we had those two resignations, one after the other the first of all health secretary sajid javid, then chancellor rishi sunak, and in the house of commons a little bit earlier, just after prime minister's questions, sajid javid made his resignation statement. treading the tightrope between loyalty and integrity has become impossible in recent months. and, mr speaker, i will never risk losing my integrity. i also believe a team is as good as its team captain and that a captain is as good as his or her team, so loyalty must go both ways. the events of recent months have made it increasingly difficult to be in that team. it's not fair on ministerial colleagues to go out every morning defending lines that don't stand up and don't hold up. it's not fair on my parliamentary colleagues who bear the brunt of constituents' dismay in their inboxes and on their doorsteps in recent elections. and it's not fair on conservative members and voters who rightly expect better standards from the party they supported. just to explain one reference to that statement from sajid javid, it has dominated the headlines, the accusations of sexual contact and that chris pincher, the former deputy chief whip. last week, number 10 said borisjohnson was not aware of any explicit allegations. through the weekend they said, no, he was not aware, monday, they said, no he was not aware, then when a story broke from my colleague ione wells, they said, actually, boris johnson had been told about them, he forgot them. among those going into downing street is the chairman of the 1922 committee sir graham brady. he was spotted rocking past the redline pub just outside of downing street and then through here in to see the prime minister. he represents, via this committee, conservative backbenchers, and here is our political editor chris mason on how they fit in at.— is our political editor chris mason on how they fit in at. offering, we are told, wise _ on how they fit in at. offering, we are told, wise counsel _ on how they fit in at. offering, we are told, wise counsel the - —— which is west mr speaker for graham brady telling the prime minister, time is up, you've got to go. in down a street right now are two groups of senior ministers. there are those going into sayjust that to boris johnson, there are those going into sayjust that to borisjohnson, that he should resign. there are others who say, you have a mandate from the last general election, a new prime minister would not have that mandate. it may bring forward a general election sooner rather than later. they are the arguments going on right now the heart of government, which would shape what borisjohnson government, which would shape what boris johnson chooses government, which would shape what borisjohnson chooses to do next. there are some here pondering that as soon as this evening, mrjohnson may decide to resign. were he not to do that, some of those ministers who want him to may resign themselves, and as soon as next week, we could see a move for backbenchers to try and remove him via a vote of confidence. things are very fluid and the state could have quite a few hours left in it yet. == and the state could have quite a few hours left in it yet.— hours left in it yet. -- and this day could- _ hours left in it yet. -- and this day could. the _ hours left in it yet. -- and this day could. the prime - hours left in it yet. -- and this day could. the prime minister| hours left in it yet. -- and this - day could. the prime minister may go this evening, as chris was saying, we just don't know. he has got four hours if he doesn't think the time has come, though all of his public statements today and all that previously has suggested he is definitely not in the me to do this. watching all of this is the labour party. yvette cooper has been speaking to bbc�*s david wallace lockhart. is speaking to bbc's david wallace lockhart. . . speaking to bbc's david wallace lockhart. , ., ., ., , lockhart. is a total disgrace, because boris _ lockhart. is a total disgrace, because boris johnson - lockhart. is a total disgrace, - because boris johnson should've been because borisjohnson should've been long gone. he is a discredited prime minister. i'm afraid this is a responsibility of the whole conservative party and the conservative party and the conservative ministers who have been defending him, defend him while he lied to defend him while he dismissed serious allegations of sexual assault, defending him while he disrespected the sacrifices made by the public and brutal himself, so i think this has corrupted whole of the conservative party, of course he needs to go, but they need to take responsibility as well. is needs to go, but they need to take responsibility as well.— responsibility as well. is the mood in the labour _ responsibility as well. is the mood in the labour party _ responsibility as well. is the mood in the labour party that, - responsibility as well. is the mood in the labour party that, at - responsibility as well. is the mood in the labour party that, at prime | in the labour party that, at prime minister's questions next week, you will be facing a different individual there at the dispatch box and johnson will be gone shallow he does seem to be trying to cleaning by his fingernails. he does seem to be trying to cleaning by his fingernails.— by his fingernails. he is someone who has no _ by his fingernails. he is someone who has no shame _ by his fingernails. he is someone who has no shame and _ by his fingernails. he is someone who has no shame and therefore | by his fingernails. he is someone i who has no shame and therefore is obviously trying to cling regardless of everyone else, but that is deeply damaging to the government, and we have government committees and legislation committees all being cancelled because there are no ministers to fill the posts, but it has been shambolic for a long time, and if all they do is replace boris johnson with somebody else who has been defending him for the last few months while all of this has been going on, it is not clear we are that much further forward. this is on all of them. in that much further forward. this is on all of them.— on all of them. in terms of raw iolitics, on all of them. in terms of raw politics, labour— on all of them. in terms of raw politics, labour seems - on all of them. in terms of raw politics, labour seems to - on all of them. in terms of raw politics, labour seems to be i on all of them. in terms of raw. politics, labour seems to be had in the polls, conservatives losing by elections when they have huge majorities, is not in your interest in terms of the raw politics to keep borisjohnson for a general boris johnson for a general election?— boris johnson for a general election? ., , , , ., election? the trouble is, it is not in the national _ election? the trouble is, it is not in the national interest _ election? the trouble is, it is not in the national interest to - election? the trouble is, it is not in the national interest to have i in the national interest to have forrestjohnson carry on as prime minister. i think he is usually undermining all standards in public life and any sense of integrity. you have parents just trying to teach their kids to tell the truth and have some basic standards, people across the country victims of sexual assault who find the way the prime minister has dismissed serious allegations actually quite traumatic and difficult, for people across the country who lost loved ones during covid, everyone who was so damaged as a result of the way the prime minister has operated, it is in the national interest for him to go, but this is about the whole of the conservative party and there is no sign from them that any vision for the country of any positive plan to sort out the cost of the —— also increases we all face, and... they have known this is indefensible for a long time but they still kept defending him. is there any field within labour that borisjohnson could hang on? we could see keir starmer face a fine for that durham event, and the narrative changes and this becomes a keir starmer than borisjohnson? i keir starmer than boris johnson? i do keir starmerthan borisjohnson? i do nothing that will happen for a moment. keir starmer has been clear about abiding by the rules, but it does show a real difference in standards, that keir starmer says he is willing to resign if he is fine by police because he believes in the consequences, accepting the consequences, accepting the consequences and accepting responsibility, is a huge contrast with borisjohnson, who thinks he can shrug his shoulders at the rule of law, at rules that he thinks they just apply to other people and not to him, and that is a huge difference in the leadership of the labour party and the leadership of the conservative party, but it also is about our talk is a whole —— our democracy as a whole. whether you stand up for standards of public life. the whether you stand up for standards of public life-— of public life. the labour party would like _ of public life. the labour party would like boris _ of public life. the labour party would like boris johnson - of public life. the labour partyj would like boris johnson gone. of public life. the labour party - would like boris johnson gone. this would like borisjohnson gone. this is interesting. harry cole, political editor of the sun, tweeting, one minister telling me the prime minister is going to fight a reshuffle, a reshuffle in the offing, as some cabinet ministers etc walks night will be replaced. remaining loyalists apm want to take confidence vote on and fight it as parliament versus the people. it's certainly bold. those expect boris johnson to resign, it is worth three during, nothing at all he has said today or previously is suggesting he is in the mood to do that, a little bit earlier, if you read the daily telegraph, you might have seen the man who negotiated brexit, lord frost, wrote in the daily telegraph mrjohnson should go, otherwise they might be chaos. ed davey, leader of the liberal democrats, says come another day of chaos —— another day of chaos. it does more damage to the country. lots of people sharing their views, the opposition parties, as we'd expect, decidedly unimpressed, and one of the quirks of today was after the drum of prime minister's questions, of sajid javid's resignation, we had a mid—afternoon lengthy session where borisjohnson had to sit away from his phone, away from all the updates on what was happening, and to questions from what is called the liaison committee. this is a parliamentary super committee made up parliamentary super committee made up of mps who chair all the other select committees on issues like health, education and defence. let me play you somewhat happened, sorting off with the snp and p angus macneill, who had a straightforward question about whether the premonition was staying in the job stop —— where the prime minister was staying in the job... you've had more resignations since any prime minister since 1932. michael gove has told you to go. the game's up, really. will you be prime minister tomorrow? of course, mr macneil. next week? but i'm here to... rather than giving any running commentary on my own career, i'm here to talk about what the government is doing. so, that's what i was answering, stephen, and we're moving on. darren jones wanted to talk to the prime minister about his week. prime minister, - how's your week going? terrific. like many others. you know... did michael gove come and tell you to resign today? i i think i said earlier, sir bernard, that i'm not going to... i'm here to talk about what the government is doing. i'm not giving to give a running commentary on political events. just before we hear a bit more of that exchange, is worth saying the way briefing works in westminster is number ten or one of its allies will get a message out to a number of journalists, and what we are seeing on twitter in particular his multiple journalist tweeting in the last few minutes that borisjohnson is not planning to go anywhere and is not planning to go anywhere and is in fact waiting to reshuffle his cabinet in some form. take all that with a pinch of salt because there are 101 reasons why he would brief journalists, but the message coming from number 10 journalists, but the message coming from number10 bya number of reliable estimate of sources is that the prime ministers is not intending to resign. i am not saying that is the case, but that is the mood music being pushed out by some of the lobbyjournalists. going back to that committee that i was telling you about, here is a further exchange between mrjones and mr johnson i when he thought the time might be to quit. i johnson i when he thought the time might be to quit-— might be to quit. i think in my view ou're might be to quit. i think in my view you're hurting _ might be to quit. i think in my view you're hurting the _ might be to quit. i think in my view you're hurting the country, - might be to quit. i think in my view you're hurting the country, prime i you're hurting the country, prime minister — you're hurting the country, prime minister. on a very human level, surety— minister. on a very human level, surely you — minister. on a very human level, surely you must know it is in the country's — surely you must know it is in the country's interest for you to leave. ithink— country's interest for you to leave. i think that — country's interest for you to leave. i think that the country is going through tough times, and i think that we have the biggest... you're making a point about duty, right? and i look at the issues that this country faces, i look at the pressures that people are under go but the need for government to focus on their priorities, which is what we are doing, i look at the biggest worry for 80 years, and i cannot for the life of me see how it is responsible just to walk away from that. i don't asi as i said earlier on in pmqs, particularly if you have the mandate of the kind we won two or three years ago. of the kind we won two or three years ago-— years ago. that was the prime minister earlier. _ years ago. that was the prime minister earlier. more - years ago. that was the prime minister earlier. more of- years ago. that was the prime minister earlier. more of that l minister earlier. more of that committee in a moment, but i was mentioning, multiple briefings going on at the moment, although on the lines of "borisjohnson is not going anywhere." here is jason groves, borisjohnson has told cabinet ministers he will not quit, arguing it would cause chaos and see the conservatives fall to almost certain defeat at the next election. he is adding at least one minister will resign in protest. jason groves of the daily mail saying borisjohnson say he is not going anywhere. also expecting another cabinet resignation. bear in mind, there was reporting in the press, i think any times, that a number of ministers that, either you go or i will quit, and borisjohnson has called them on that, saying, "i am not going tonight — what are you going to do?" this is reliable west mr journalists, so we should know what they are saying. one other note. the bbc research unit is saying a record 14 ministers have resigned in a single day for some the previous record — are you going to guess this, i do nothing i would have done? 11 ministers in 1932. worse johnson holds the record for the most ministers quitting on him in a single day. —— borisjohnson. i do not know that he will worry too much about that if you think she can carry on and reset this cabinet. it is a tall order, but according to these briefings, he is going to try. back to that parliamentary committee. this is what conservative mp william wragg asked borisjohnson about his government. at which point is become impossible for the _ at which point is become impossible for the queens — at which point is become impossible for the queens government- at which point is become impossible for the queens government be - for the queens government be continued? _ for the queens government be continued?— continued? i really think that, william, you're _ continued? i really think that, i william, you're underestimating continued? i really think that, - william, you're underestimating the talent, energy and sheer ambition of members of parliament, and then went to get things done, they want to get things done for their constituents, and he government of the country has been carried on with every tell ever—increasing energy. been carried on with every tell ever-increasing energy. dick... i airee ever-increasing energy. dick... i agree with _ ever-increasing energy. dick... i agree with you — ever-increasing energy. dick... i agree with you on _ ever-increasing energy. dick... i agree with you on that. - joining us now is cindy yu, broadcast editor for the spectator. a magazine that borisjohnson was with the editor of the thank you for joining us. wonder what you're you is and the spectator�*s you is of the predicament mrjohnson finds himself in? i predicament mrjohnson finds himself in? ., ., 4' predicament mrjohnson finds himself in? ., ., ,, ,, . ., ., predicament mrjohnson finds himself in? ., ., ,, ,, ., in? i do not think the spectator has a house view _ in? i do not think the spectator has a house view on _ in? i do not think the spectator has a house view on boris _ in? i do not think the spectator has a house view on boris johnson, - in? i do not think the spectator has a house view on boris johnson, as l a house view on borisjohnson, as such, but our updated cover coming tomorrow is the beauty pageant, as it were, of all of the biggest contenders are borisjohnson's crown. some are still in his cabinet, like liz truss and nadhim zahawi, some are out, like sajid javid and rishi sunak, and i think the next few days it is also play for and how these runners and writers contended, how they draw clear blue water between them selves and the prime minister, it really will matter quite a lot, but in terms of the event of less money for hours but it is just incredible. as you were saying, the record number of ministers resigning, and it goes to show how many were cheering on the edge of resigning, that been tired of almost a year now of bad headlines coming from the prime minister's personality rather than any personalities, and some thing like chris pincher and the resignation of sajid javid push them over the edge of. and resignation of sajid javid push them over the edge of.— over the edge of. and as you consider _ over the edge of. and as you consider the _ over the edge of. and as you consider the runners - over the edge of. and as you consider the runners and - over the edge of. and as you . consider the runners and writers over the edge of. and as you - consider the runners and writers who would be involved in borisjohnson —— if borisjohnson were to go, help me understand the differences between these people? because there's been so much concentration on his ship style that perhaps the policy differences in the conservative party have not received as much of an airing. it is conservative party have not received as much of an airing.— as much of an airing. it is a good ioint. as much of an airing. it is a good point- rishi _ as much of an airing. it is a good point. rishi sunak— as much of an airing. it is a good point. rishi sunak is _ as much of an airing. it is a good point. rishi sunak is a _ as much of an airing. it is a good point. rishi sunak is a person i i point. rishi sunak is a person i think at first when it comes to policy difference with boris johnson, because it was over policy at boris —— with boris johnson —— with borisjohnson he resigned... for rishi sunak it was really about differences over fiscal conservatism, whether or not you should keep borrowing money in order to keep the economy going, and injured to cut taxes, or you could balance the books. that was what the ex chancellor disagreed with boris johnson over. and if rishi sunak makes for a leadership campaign, which i think he will do, that is what he is going be campaigning on, that he's going to be the one balancing the books, bringing inflation in control, at a moment in which the economy is teetering on the edge of a recession and stagflation possibly. rishi sunak is going to say, i am the responsible aduu going to say, i am the responsible adult in the room. then you have liz truss, someone who is very hockett on foreign policy, very supportive of the liberal west, and she will go further on russia, on china than borisjohnson would, so that's one person to look out for as well. go on. . . person to look out for as well. go on, ., , ., , " person to look out for as well. go on, ., , ., ., person to look out for as well. go on. ., , ., person to look out for as well. go on. can i 'ust ask you what you make of all of on. can i just ask you what you make of all of these _ on. can i just ask you what you make of all of these conservatives - on. can i just ask you what you make of all of these conservatives saying i of all of these conservatives saying they have concerns over boris johnson's relation with the truth? these were concerns raised when he was a journalist, when he was mayor of london, when he was a number of other governments, and now that he is prime minister. none of these concerns are new. the conservative mps complaining about the issue now about this for well before hand, didn't they?— about this for well before hand, didn't the ? �* ,,., , , didn't they? absolutely, they did. look at didn't they? absolutely, they did. look at the _ didn't they? absolutely, they did. look at the column _ didn't they? absolutely, they did. look at the column inches - didn't they? absolutely, they did. look at the column inches written j look at the column inches written before boris johnson look at the column inches written before borisjohnson was elected as leader, you will find 20 ofjohnson critics from the left and the right, saying, pointing out all of these character flaws. saying, pointing out all of these characterflaws. he has saying, pointing out all of these character flaws. he has lost saying, pointing out all of these characterflaws. he has lostjobs and seven his life over a lack of ability to tell the truth —— lost jobs over the course of his life. but you are right, that did not seem to bother people at the time. what bothered people now is he is the in the seat of the prayer ship and has not changed to get better acquainted with the truth, but also when he is doing this kind of spin, he is unable to keep that up and then there is a u—turn. over the weekend we saw several u—turns over gently what he knew, when he knew it, about chris pincher. some mps think that if he had come clean on friday, all of you much better, but he did not, so that is the fury eating thing thatis so that is the fury eating thing that is systematic dashing fury eating thing that is systematic of partygate as well... eating thing that is systematic of partygate as well. . .— eating thing that is systematic of partygate as well... thank you very much indeed _ partygate as well... thank you very much indeed for _ partygate as well... thank you very much indeed for the _ partygate as well... thank you very much indeed for the moment. - partygate as well... thank you very i much indeed for the moment. please stay with us. ijust much indeed for the moment. please stay with us. i just want to bring up stay with us. i just want to bring up a couple of tweets. one is from the bbc's political correspondent nick fairley, who understands that grant shapps has set up the timetable with the primitives are very dignified exit. he has told the prime minister he stood little chance of winning a second confidence vote —— with the prime minister about. we have more from ione wells, saying that the bbc's chris mason has heard that the prime ministers saying that... this strategy, to be honest, not the first time we have heard it from number 10, the prime minister repeatedly referencing the mandate he thinks he has as prime minister and linking it to that victory in 2019? ., , ., ,. ., 2019? yeah, it is fascinating. it was a landslide _ 2019? yeah, it is fascinating. it was a landslide victory, - 2019? yeah, it is fascinating. it was a landslide victory, and - 2019? yeah, it is fascinating. it was a landslide victory, and 80| 2019? yeah, it is fascinating. it - was a landslide victory, and 80 seat majority is nothing to sniff at, but those people, a yougov poll showed that over half of them do nothing he should be financer any more, he should resign, so how many are actually giving him that kind of support that they gave him two and a half years ago? i think it is a massive question mark. cindy, we really appreciate _ massive question mark. cindy, we really appreciate you _ massive question mark. cindy, we really appreciate you joining - massive question mark. cindy, we really appreciate you joining us. i really appreciate you joining us. that is cindy yu the broadcast editor at the spectator. the press association is suggesting a lack reporting borisjohnson is refusing to quit. —— is reporting that. omos anyone who knows borisjohnson has said he has never been the resigning type and so far he is not proving to be one today. if you're watching on pbs, think you for watching, we will see you soon. —— thank you. we have said goodbye to our american viewers, but those of you watching in the uk, on the bbc news channel, watching around the world on bbc world news, we are not going anywhere. the night is young in terms of british politics. letty bringing my colleague iain watson. very carefully guiding me through this. the mood music, for what it is worth, seems to have shifted. the mood music _ worth, seems to have shifted. the mood music we _ worth, seems to have shifted. tie mood music we can hear in the background, in fact! mood music we can hear in the background, infact! protesters mood music we can hear in the background, in fact! protesters on one side, and marching band on the other, and interesting one side, and marching band on the other, and interestin- other, and interesting soundtrack. politics in the — other, and interesting soundtrack. politics in the middle! _ other, and interesting soundtrack. politics in the middle! ministers i politics in the middle! ministers uri ini politics in the middle! ministers urging him _ politics in the middle! ministers urging him one _ politics in the middle! ministers urging him one by _ politics in the middle! ministers urging him one by one - politics in the middle! ministers urging him one by one to - politics in the middle! ministers urging him one by one to urge i politics in the middle! ministers i urging him one by one to urge the prime minster to go. the most able defenders of the prime minister in the media suggested the prime minister should set a timetable for his own departure, facing... interestingly, priti patel, who is a staunch ally, she did not walk into downing street in full view of the cameras, but she is said to have delivered to or chanson the message that it delivered to or chanson the message thatitis delivered to or chanson the message that it is time to go —— boris johnson... nadine dorries. that it is time to go -- boris johnson... nadine dorries. what did she sa ? johnson... nadine dorries. what did she say? yes. _ johnson... nadine dorries. what did she say? yes, she _ johnson... nadine dorries. what did she say? yes, she is _ johnson... nadine dorries. what did she say? yes, she is supporting - johnson... nadine dorries. what did she say? yes, she is supporting the | she say? yes, she is supporting the prime minister, _ she say? yes, she is supporting the prime minister, but _ she say? yes, she is supporting the prime minister, but when _ she say? yes, she is supporting the prime minister, but when asked - she say? yes, she is supporting the prime minister, but when asked if. prime minister, but when asked if any of her colleagues were supporting him, she said, yes, definitely, and that is a sign that borisjohnson wants to continue to fight and he has got enough people around him to keep going for the time being rather than listening to grant shapps and others who are saying time is up. but grant shapps and others who are saying time is up.— grant shapps and others who are saying time is up. but if he keeps ioiin for saying time is up. but if he keeps going for the _ saying time is up. but if he keeps going for the moment, _ saying time is up. but if he keeps going for the moment, you've . saying time is up. but if he keeps| going for the moment, you've got to keep filling these vacancies. we had 38 resignations. does he have enough support to put people in place in the roles that need to be performed in this government? this the roles that need to be performed in this government?— in this government? this was raised b a in this government? this was raised by a former — in this government? this was raised by a former minister, _ in this government? this was raised by a former minister, stephen - in this government? this was raised i by a former minister, stephen crabb, at the liaison committee this afternoon, and he was wondering if there was enough people to fill these posts. she almost 40 mps associated with the government positions or parliamentary aids now gone. some people were saying, the worry was there were not enough there to answer mps questions on behalf of the government departments unless these posts can be filled. borisjohnson is very bullish. he said in a committee, there is a wealth of talent, it is hard to believe people who have not already been promoted would not come to his aid when he's at his most vulnerable, and one serving government minister i spoke to said his colleagues were trying to wake up his colleagues were trying to wake up whether it was better to stay in, have something of a functioning government even if borisjohnson was forced out, or whether to resign if you reluctant to go. those are the kind of conversation they are having. its kind of conversation they are havini. �* . �* kind of conversation they are havini. r �* . .. �* having. as we're talking, i'm dii iini having. as we're talking, i'm digging back _ having. as we're talking, i'm digging back to _ having. as we're talking, i'm digging back to 2019, - having. as we're talking, i'm digging back to 2019, with i having. as we're talking, i'm i digging back to 2019, with boris johnson trying to get anything through and the conservatives did not have a functioning majority. they called an election, let's brush this out once and for all, and what he would was a thumping majority. is he thinking, if i connect my party in line, i will go direct to the people? in the liaison committee, he _ will go direct to the people? in the liaison committee, he was - will go direct to the people? in the liaison committee, he was asked i liaison committee, he was asked this, because people are talking days and days of the talking days and days and whether he... rather than listening to his own mps. he was asked about this and he said, effectively, governments should be allowed to get on with the job, and he was cross—examined by sir bernard jenkin, who seemed to stepped back... and 80 seat majority undermined from his own site? we know privately he and some of the people around him since we don't live there is anyone else who has that, if you like, borisjohnson magic to win or people who don't traditionally vote conservative. i’m traditionally vote conservative. i'm ioiin to traditionally vote conservative. i'm going to interrupt you here, i think my colleague david wallace locker has great gas from the snp. —— david wallace locker has got a guest. lats wallace locker has got a guest. lots of calls from — wallace locker has got a guest. lots of calls from early _ wallace locker has got a guest. lots of calls from early payments are to resign. leader of the snp, ian blackford. expect boris johnson expect borisjohnson to be prime minister in the morning? he’s expect boris johnson to be prime minister in the morning? he's lost the confidence _ minister in the morning? he's lost the confidence of _ minister in the morning? he's lost the confidence of the _ minister in the morning? he's lost the confidence of the house - minister in the morning? he's lost the confidence of the house of. the confidence of the house of commons. lost the confidence of his own mps— commons. lost the confidence of his own mps a _ commons. lost the confidence of his own mps a number of cabinet ministers— own mps a number of cabinet ministers have told him to go. at the end _ ministers have told him to go. at the end of— ministers have told him to go. at the end of the day, if he does not do the _ the end of the day, if he does not do the decent thing, have some doubt that he and _ do the decent thing, have some doubt that he and some dignity from the real essence of her, if it doesn't do the _ real essence of her, if it doesn't do the right thing and go of his own accord _ do the right thing and go of his own accord and — do the right thing and go of his own accord and he will be tracked out, conservative mps of the take the responsibilities and the cabinet ministers tonight have to tell him to go— ministers tonight have to tell him to go in— ministers tonight have to tell him to go in the need to recognise that they cannot sit around that cabinet table _ they cannot sit around that cabinet table a _ they cannot sit around that cabinet table a minute longer. they need to resign— table a minute longer. they need to resign so— table a minute longer. they need to resign so up— table a minute longer. they need to resign so up the pressure on him. the tory— resign so up the pressure on him. the tory backbench committee has to move _ the tory backbench committee has to move forward with emotional confidence and then, if you like, the nuclear option the will have to come _ the nuclear option the will have to come together in the motion of no—confidence because they cannot allow— no—confidence because they cannot allow this— no—confidence because they cannot allow this man that is such a threat to democracy is allowed to stay a minute longer than is absolutely necessary. boy that's his first as the islands— necessary. boy that's his first as the islands around the world, to see a prime _ the islands around the world, to see a prime minister that won't do the decent _ a prime minister that won't do the decent thing. all a prime minister that won't do the decent thing-— a prime minister that won't do the decent thing. all roads seem to go to him leaving. _ decent thing. all roads seem to go to him leaving. recruiting - decent thing. all roads seem to go | to him leaving. recruiting sergeant from your party in terms of raw politics, would you rather he hung on? lil terms of raw politics, would you rather he hung on?— rather he hung on? lu nike has liihts of rather he hung on? lu nike has lights of the — rather he hung on? lu nike has lights of the house _ rather he hung on? lu nike has lights of the house of - rather he hung on? lu nike hasi lights of the house of commons, broken and ministerial code, the first to be finding office. is, broken and ministerial code, the first to be finding office.- first to be finding office. a man who illegally — first to be finding office. a man who illegally shut _ first to be finding office. a man who illegally shut down - first to be finding office. a man - who illegally shut down parliament. he is a _ who illegally shut down parliament. he is a charge sheet as long as your arm _ he is a charge sheet as long as your arm. this— he is a charge sheet as long as your arm, this man is not fit to be prime minister. _ arm, this man is not fit to be prime minister. we — arm, this man is not fit to be prime minister, we will make the case for scotland _ minister, we will make the case for scotland to— minister, we will make the case for scotland to become an independent country~ _ scotland to become an independent country. we do not need boris johnson — country. we do not need boris johnson to— country. we do not need boris johnson to do that. i want as a responsible adult and placed in number— responsible adult and placed in number ten, responsible adult and placed in numberten, not a man responsible adult and placed in number ten, not a man caving responsible adult and placed in numberten, not a man caving in responsible adult and placed in number ten, not a man caving in such a contemptible way was part of the trust of— a contemptible way was part of the trust of those within it. that a contemptible way was part of the trust of those within it.— trust of those within it. that is the latest, another— trust of those within it. that is the latest, another cabinet. the latest, another cabinet resignation for boris johnson the latest, another cabinet resignation for borisjohnson and he has his work cut out tonight to try to convince us that his cabinet ministers, he has taken the time to write nicola sturgeon and say that they do not feel there should be another scottish independence referendum, what is your reaction to that? �* ., , referendum, what is your reaction to that? :, ,_, referendum, what is your reaction to that? ., , that? boris johnson the numinous number to next _ that? boris johnson the numinous number to next respect _ that? boris johnson the numinous i number to next respect democracy, you have _ number to next respect democracy, you have a — number to next respect democracy, you have a uk government that is not breaking _ you have a uk government that is not breaking its— you have a uk government that is not breaking its international commitments and coming up with the breach— commitments and coming up with the breach of— commitments and coming up with the breach of the northern ireland protocoi — breach of the northern ireland protocol and yet they don't recognise that the scottish government wants a legal route to deliver— government wants a legal route to deliver an — government wants a legal route to deliver an independence referendum and will— deliver an independence referendum and will do _ deliver an independence referendum and will do things the right way and the message number 10 downing street is that— the message number 10 downing street is that we _ the message number 10 downing street is that we won that election for the scottish— is that we won that election for the scottish parliament last year. as a growing _ scottish parliament last year. as a growing maturity for the scottish parliament in the way democracy works— parliament in the way democracy works as — parliament in the way democracy works as we have the majority of our manifesto _ works as we have the majority of our manifesto commitment on delivering something, in this case and independence referendum, it should be delivered. independence and an independence referendum will be coming _ independence referendum will be coming to be far better if we had a grown _ coming to be far better if we had a grown up — coming to be far better if we had a grown up conversation between two governments and the respect of the film governments and the respect of the right of— governments and the respect of the right of the scottish parliament to put in _ right of the scottish parliament to put in place the votes that were given— put in place the votes that were given and — put in place the votes that were given and the election to deliver that referendum which you lose that next prime — that referendum which you lose that next prime minister says yes, have an independence referendum? obviously, we need to have that once borisjohnson goes for obviously, we need to have that once boris johnson goes for those who decide _ boris johnson goes for those who decide for— boris johnson goes for those who decide for the next one is, we want to stay— decide for the next one is, we want to stay in. — decide for the next one is, we want to stay in. do— decide for the next one is, we want to stay in, do you want to stay in the system, _ to stay in, do you want to stay in the system, or be an independent country in — the system, or be an independent country in the european union broken focus _ country in the european union broken focus on _ country in the european union broken focus on delivering for people dealing — focus on delivering for people dealing with the cost of living crisis — dealing with the cost of living crisis and _ dealing with the cost of living crisis and making sure we deliver on our promises — crisis and making sure we deliver on our promises of green energy and investment in the scottish economy instead _ investment in the scottish economy instead of— investment in the scottish economy instead of the shambles in westminster and we have to show. one ofthe westminster and we have to show. (me of the problems borisjohnson is facing is one of the things causes many of us in peace to turn on him as his handling of allegations against one of his own mps. if a similar criticisms when it comes to patrick grady and how allegations against him but handled, is there an element of hypocrisy here? h0 against him but handled, is there an element of hypocrisy here?- element of hypocrisy here? no and it's iood element of hypocrisy here? no and it's good to — element of hypocrisy here? no and it's good to remember _ element of hypocrisy here? no and it's good to remember that - element of hypocrisy here? no and it's good to remember that it - element of hypocrisy here? no and it's good to remember that it was i element of hypocrisy here? no and i it's good to remember that it was an independent process and the complaints scheme that patrick grady was found _ complaints scheme that patrick grady was found guilty of a misdemeanor was found guilty of a misdemeanor was suspended for two days by the scottish— was suspended for two days by the scottish national party. what i've said is— scottish national party. what i've said is i_ scottish national party. what i've said is i apologise for any victim was suffered from harassment and sexual— was suffered from harassment and sexual miss practice but what i have said is— sexual miss practice but what i have said is that — sexual miss practice but what i have said is that i — sexual miss practice but what i have said is that i will make sure that we review— said is that i will make sure that we review our practices, our procedures because of the end of the day, parliament has to be a place which _ day, parliament has to be a place which for— day, parliament has to be a place which for everybody and absolutely determined that all staff members can see _ determined that all staff members can see that and feel that because that is— can see that and feel that because that is what is important.- can see that and feel that because that is what is important. thank you ve much that is what is important. thank you very much for— that is what is important. thank you very much for your _ that is what is important. thank you very much for your time _ that is what is important. thank you very much for your time this - that is what is important. thank you| very much for your time this evening and once again, we will bring you that breaking news was that brandon lewis of northern ireland secretary, the latest resignation from the cabinet very difficult situation for borisjohnson this evening. cabinet very difficult situation for boris johnson this evening. thank ou ve boris johnson this evening. thank you very much — boris johnson this evening. thank you very much this _ boris johnson this evening. thank you very much this evening. - boris johnson this evening. thank you very much this evening. running you very much this evening. running you through some figures sent by the political research unit. they have are calculated based on the information the 21% of the conservative mps say 75% of them have now switched from being supportive or neutral when it comes to borisjohnson to being opposed to him. bearing in mind that the prime minister and glass confidence vote at 59%, you can put that together and say, if there is a second vote, my colleagues in the political research units that we do not know how people voted in the last confidence vote. it is confidential. so, people could see them putting this where that way and that's completely different. it's very hard to gauge and public statements so the mood is shifting. you think it's reasonable to say that more are now opposed to borisjohnson previously but again, it's very hard because last vote was confidential. in terms of the second vote, the 1922 committee that represents backbench and peace of the conservative party would have to change its rules in the current rules as if you had one vote of confidence, you can have another one for 12 months. there's a push for that changing. well, they could change that on monday and we understand if the 1922 committee want to vote for that. if that happens, it'll be a question of whether borisjohnson justified a confidence vote and briefed earlier that they would in the belief they would win. the message from my colleagues in the political research unit is to be cautious about drawing from conclusions from public statements that we do not know what happened in that last vote. we were told that brandon lewis has resigned and i should pass on that there is not some confusion about whether or not some confusion about whether or not that is happened, one of my colleagues in westminster office, we're just working for the details to establish whether or not that is happening or not. the press association is reporting that it understands borisjohnson has refused to quit and he has been told by multiple cabinet colleagues that he needs to go and he says no thanks and he wants to focus on the hugely important issues facing the country, he says. whether his mps give him the chance, we'll have to see. it's between former conservative mp was live with the serum bbc news. thank you for your time. what are you hearing from mps? it’s you for your time. what are you hearing from mps?— you for your time. what are you hearing from mps? it's been quite a da and i hearing from mps? it's been quite a day and i think— hearing from mps? it's been quite a day and i think all— hearing from mps? it's been quite a day and i think all the _ hearing from mps? it's been quite a day and i think all the news - day and i think all the news broadcasters reporting perfectly accurately that there has been a growing sense of things slipping away from the prime minister for the last 36 hours leading to the extraordinary situation into the cabinet composed of people who have supported borisjohnson quite loyally through thick and thin realising that the mood of the conservative party, the mood of so many people had gone against the prime minister and realising that the work of government was becoming almost impossible because of the issues surrounding him and going to see him and i were being told that the prime minister, but i've been hearing from a lot of colleagues and former colleagues is that they do think his time is up and would be better for the think his time is up and would be betterfor the country as think his time is up and would be better for the country as a whole the conservative party going forward if there was a change in leadership. if there were a change in leadership, what party would remain because going into the 2019 election, borisjohnson talking on the death of the conservative party, in particular, bind brexit, there was essentially a purge of some more moderate conservative party and peace and even if they were to move on, the parties very much in his image, isn't it?— on, the parties very much in his image, isn't it? let's dissect a bit of that. clearly, _ image, isn't it? let's dissect a bit of that. clearly, you _ image, isn't it? let's dissect a bit of that. clearly, you are - image, isn't it? let's dissect a bit of that. clearly, you are aware i of that. clearly, you are aware that i was one of those who was not prepared to sign a pledge in relation to brexit, which would've completely compromised but i had to resign on which is an acceptance of leaving the eu no matter what the terms were, no matter how unfortunate or unfavorable the terms were and i was not prepared to do that. plus 2019, what is happened since then is brexit has indeed been dealt with us was the main treaty was concerned and i and many others still believe it's not fully completed. we have northern ireland legislation but the idea of the united kingdom returning to the eu in reigniting that debate seems quite fanciful. what you have is a situation where the conservative party, if it's going to govern on behalf of the people, needs to work very hard to work out the issues that people are concerned about for the cost of living, the increasing fuel charges, was condemned to energy, what comes to climate change, not least the issues in europe and ukraine and we have to have a programme going forward in the leadership with support. i see noissue the leadership with support. i see no issue with a party that wants to do that. ., , ., ,, do that. you see no issue with it but ou do that. you see no issue with it but you are _ do that. you see no issue with it but you are surely _ do that. you see no issue with it but you are surely going - do that. you see no issue with it but you are surely going to - but you are surely going to acknowledge that when you go to this kind of process, brutal politics we have seen today, you don'tjust emerged as hugging and smiling and walking into the future, and boris johnson were to go and even if you were not to go, the wounds within the conservative party are going to get in the way involves processes and ambitions each as outlined. depends on how it's done. and i have a memory of when margaret thatcher left office and she did not leave as she might�*ve done on her tenth anniversary with plaudits ringing in her ear an easy transition. because she did not believe that anyone was capable of following her. boris johnson ought to avoid that mistake. if he does not, if there is bitterness surrounding his downfall with that bitterness is accentuated by the way in which he leaves, that will be a big problem for the conservative party going forward in the country will have to make a decision because of they find a party fighting amongst itself, they don't and devote forward and they don't and devote forward and they don't think it should be in government. so, we have an obligation to ourselves and our voters to sorted out and then go forward. it will not be easy, but it will be much easierfor forward. it will not be easy, but it will be much easier for the will be much easierfor the prime minister to recognise the force and feeling and take the steps that would enable a process of coming together to be that much easier. but it will not be plain sailing. the bii banis it will not be plain sailing. the big bangs or— it will not be plain sailing. the big bangs or fireworks display that are going off not quite far from downing street. we also to set a version of bohemian rhapsody comic because it's all going down in downing street. and with the mps within the conservative party, did they make a mistake by choosing borisjohnson was met because of the personality traits they're criticising have been in plain sight for a very long time. they chosen because he won elections and did a fantasticjob of because he won elections and did a fantastic job of selling because he won elections and did a fantasticjob of selling the idea of brexit in the conservative party being in power. do you think that perhaps they also failed to realise the risks they were taking by choosing him?— the risks they were taking by choosing him? very impressive transparency- _ choosing him? very impressive transparency. i— choosing him? very impressive transparency. i did _ choosing him? very impressive transparency. i did not - choosing him? very impressive transparency. i did not vote - choosing him? very impressive transparency. i did not vote for| transparency. i did not vote for borisjohnson or supporting becoming boris johnson or supporting becoming leaderfor the borisjohnson or supporting becoming leaderfor the reasons borisjohnson or supporting becoming leader for the reasons you mentioned. i did not believe he is the right choice and i supported another candidate and of the other candidates i felt were better. colleagues as they look back they will see the determination to win the overwhelming sense that brexit can only be achieved with one l partly because of what happened in parliament before and borisjohnson and those around him in the part they played and at the end of theresa may's leadership going forward, they believe there is only one answer possible and they're prepared to put other things to one side. that is a politicaljudgment and it turns out not to have been perhaps the best. but she would have to ask them, rather than me. i thought it would've been better if we had taken another course and life might�*ve been different. we had taken another course and life might've been different.— might've been different. here's one iuestion might've been different. here's one question you _ might've been different. here's one question you can — might've been different. here's one question you can answer. _ might've been different. here's one question you can answer. you - might've been different. here's one question you can answer. you grew| question you can answer. you grew borisjohnson his argument that he won a mandate in 2019 that's his duty as a leader to stay in the liver that cannot be allowed to deliver that is to ignore the size of the vote that he received in that election? ., ., ., ., election? no, i do not agree with it. election? no, i do not agree with it- there've _ election? no, i do not agree with it. there've been _ election? no, i do not agree with it. there've been changes - election? no, i do not agree with it. there've been changes in - it. there've been changes in leadership and not irregular intervals because the process is that it intervals because the process is thatitis intervals because the process is that it is vital that the prime minister retains the support of the house of commons and his party in the house of commons. that is the system we have and it is not a presidential system it's a parliamentary system. if the prime minister does not command a majority in the house of commons, whether it is theresa may, whether it is prime minister margaret thatcher when she lost the leadership. we have a process to deal with that we have leadership contests to test that out. that is the test and it is not just the electoral mandate. people elect their individual conservative mps and they ask them to make the judgment about who is best to leave the country and that is what provides the mandate and so, although it is tempting, understandably for anyone and boris johnson's position and those around him to say, look at the electoral mandates, there is no foundation of that. in fact and no foundation of that. in fact and no foundation of that in the past.— that in the past. thank you very much forjoining _ that in the past. thank you very much forjoining us. _ that in the past. thank you very much forjoining us. one - that in the past. thank you very much forjoining us. one thing i that in the past. thank you very i much forjoining us. one thing we need to make clear, earlier on, we are reporting that brandon lewis had resigned. he has not resigned and so, we need to make that clear. brandon lewis has not resigned. if you're watching this political story escalate in the last few days, it is with us to stepping back a little reminding us of the borisjohnson has been battling a number of political storms. has been battling a number of politicalstorms. last has been battling a number of political storms. last autumn, we had a situation where one of his mps was found to have broken lobbying rules. they may be suspended from parliament for a period of time and then the conservatives moved to change the rules around how these processes were, there was an uproar very quickly the conservatives did a u—turn and decided not to do that and on patterson, the mp in question was to quit. i was damaging for borisjohnson and then earlier in december, we at the beginning of the party gets stories and number ten and mrjohnson decided to say that there were not parties and we did not break the rules we stuck to the rules but as you know, over time, more reports of gatherings here number ten emerged in time, the police would investigate and in time, mrjohnson would be fined by the police, we also know that the senior civil servant was critical of the political leadership and service leadership within number ten. that was a huge political beating that the prime minister took that went on for months and is still going on in some ways because it a parliamentary investigation that is looking to whether or not the prime minister knowingly misled parliament. so, questions by party gait are not going to go away. then, you had a vote of confidence in the prime minister and i was a month ago and while he won it, he did not when it buy as much as some people expected, he took 59% of the vote and that simply cranked up the pressure further and a couple weeks ago, we had to buy elections, one in the north of england in the southwest of england and they were for two different reasons. whether or not the conservatives could defend the northern constituency or from the labour party and mum was looking at whether the liberal democrats could take a seat in the southwest of england and the tories and conservatives lost both. the chairman will resign and further pressure on borisjohnson and then all of that leads up to the next few days where we have the former deputy chief and chris pincher having the whip removed after new allegations of sexual misconduct and allegations in the prime minister knew about this and did not act on it, the prime minister said he did not know about this and then admitted on tuesday that infects on those allegations had been told to the prime minister. all of that helps explain the moment downing street finds itself in. in the culture secretary let number two and walked down the road and jump into a car and she was shouted at by a number ofjournals, including me asking whether or not she was still supporting the prime minister and this is what she said. how many children does he have? now, here is jacob — how many children does he have? now, here is jacob young, _ how many children does he have? now, here isjacob young, conservative here is jacob young, conservative member in cleveland who is just tweeted. i have a polished agonisingly, i supported the prime minister through thick and thin, it's because my loyalty to him that i urge them to not step aside and allow the country to move on. so jacob young, a conservative mp in the northeast of england and particularly politically important place for boris johnson. particularly politically important place for borisjohnson. an area of the country for he has made great progress on behalf of the conservatives. jacob young sink i've thought about it in i've agonised about it but i now think that he should go. this is yet another pressure. the other microphone on, ian? what you make of that? this pressure. the other microphone on, ian? what you make of that?- ian? what you make of that? this a number of resignations _ ian? what you make of that? this a number of resignations that - ian? what you make of that? this a number of resignations that have i number of resignations that have taken place as people concentrate on whether or not borisjohnson can be forced out of here without another vote of confidence. so forjunior ministers, arrange parliamentary aids, associates for the government, more than 60 people today effectively calling for boris johnson to go. crucially, more than a fifth of those associated directly with the government and parliamentary aids in junior ministers parliamentary aids injunior ministers and cabinet minister saying the borisjohnson should go, making it much more difficult for his government to function. the message we are getting is that he is going to, to coin a phrase, fight on and fight to win. as far as this conservatives making the arguments to those who have come to see him, he's got a mandate and he has an 80 seat majority the success of the mandate in the messy leadership contests since they are hoping to persuade some very sceptical people, even at the 11th hour that it's not too late to change their minds to back him and they also point out that a couple of people went to their and nadine doris and jacob re—smog, and he says that when he came out, he was also still supporting the prime minister and so, the whole of the lead has not collapsed petite cabinet members telling them to go in the resignations just keep on coming. t0 resignationsjust keep on coming. to what degree are all these people who have resigned or said they haven't got compensation, they were working in groups to deliver maximum impact? i do not think that is true. i say that because i know how difficult it was for people to get the first confidence vote and it's undoubtedly the case of the government ministers are talking to each other but a lot of people are reaching their own conclusions rather than simply saying the refuse the resignations all day long. some members we knew were planning to do this are on the verge of doing this for some time. what struck me is that there's been quite a few names there that i had not anticipated. even ringing from these people of the past few days and weeks finding out when they're likely to be on the brink, when the ready to go in and up pops a range of people today that were not on my list of numbers to call and expecting them to resign. i think there has been a mood change in the conservative party, a feeling of inevitability and that feeling of inevitability and that feeling of inevitability is not shared by the man in there.— inevitability is not shared by the man in there. ., ,, i. , . man in there. thank you very much. for any further— man in there. thank you very much. for any further developments, - man in there. thank you very much. for any further developments, you i for any further developments, you know or we are. thank you very much. let's take a quick reminder as to how we got here, not going all the back of the last year but in terms of the last few days because late last week, this man chris allegedly grouped two men in london in a formal complaint was made and he was suspended in time and the conservative party. the prime minister said borisjohnson had not been aware of a specific allegations against chris pincher when he had been appointed to that role of deputy chief whip in february. at the more allegations of inappropriate behaviour came out about chris pincher, he denied them. for the questions were asked about whether or not the prime minister had been aware of a complaint against chris pincher when that appointment was made in february. again, this was denied several times by number ten again, this was denied several times by numberten in again, this was denied several times by number ten in the press and by various ministers. i by number ten in the press and by various ministers.— various ministers. i have been informed _ various ministers. i have been informed this _ various ministers. i have been informed this morning - various ministers. i have been informed this morning that. various ministers. i have been informed this morning that hej various ministers. i have been . informed this morning that he did not know about specific allegations. saying with certainty that the prime yesterday no?— saying with certainty that the prime esterda no? ., , ., , yesterday no? people from the prime ministers office. _ yesterday no? people from the prime ministers office. the _ yesterday no? people from the prime ministers office. the bbc _ yesterday no? people from the prime ministers office. the bbc revealed i ministers office. the bbc revealed that boris johnson _ ministers office. the bbc revealed that boris johnson had _ ministers office. the bbc revealed that boris johnson had been - ministers office. the bbc revealed that boris johnson had been madej that borisjohnson had been made aware of formal complaints about inappropriate behaviour and chris pincher was a minister from 2019 through 2020 and it led to a disciplinary process of misconduct in the government position continued to be that the prime minister did not know about it. a day later on tuesday, lord mcdonald intervened. he is a member of the house of lords and the senior civil servant and it sent a letter to the parliamentary commission of the standard sing the prime minister had been briefed in person about a complaint that had been upheld on chris pincher in 2019 and the official line about what borisjohnson and the official line about what boris johnson knew and the official line about what borisjohnson knew had to change. and fresh allegations arose, the prime minister did not immediately recall the conversation in late 2019 about this incident.— about this incident. number ten sto was about this incident. number ten story was that _ about this incident. number ten story was that boris _ about this incident. number ten story was that boris johnson . about this incident. number ten | story was that boris johnson had story was that borisjohnson had forgotten about what he had been told but then remembered mrjohnson subsequently admitted that he was wrong to appoint chris pincher to his government. but, the damage was already done. they resigned, that was yesterday and that is what triggered this extraordinary political maelstrom and continues to play out and downing street both online and bbc news and hear on bbc news. if you been tracking the weather forecast for the past few days, you may have seen that the temperature is expected to rise quite significantly that everyone in the uk, mostly across the south we are increasingly confident that a heat wave is on the way and is likely to affect the southern half of the british isles. in the short—term, it is cloudy and relatively cool in the north of the country, recently we've had some spots of rain and the weather system writing around this area of high pressure and in the south of us, this high is expected to eventually build up across the uk, this high pressure will be responsible for spreading the very hot air in our direction and this is not going to happen right away. and if you look at the wind arrows coming from the north, relatively fresh north atlantic era but having said that, temperatures in the morning 15 to 16 in the south of the country, not all that fresh. in the morning, will be very fairly cloudy but on the day onwards, beautiful day in the north sea coast on the south coast and then, it will be sunny as well as very pleasant temperatures 18—22 for many of us in the mid—20s across the south in the southeast. this forecast for friday, little bit of cloud and rain in the northwest of the uk but once again, it is a mostly warm and sunny day and turning quite hot in some of the bigger towns and cities in south london at 20 degrees and we are very confident that it will be very warm and sunny weekend across many parts the uk with beautiful weather on the coastal areas is this area of high—pressure notices and off the atlantic and the winds will start to feel light and will be cloudy at times in the northwestern parts of scotland, maybe some spots of rain there and look at these temperatures around 22 in the hall, 27 degrees expected in london the following day is going to get even hotter. you look at the outlook for the week ahead, we are expecting temperatures to be in excess of 30 degrees through most of the week in southern towns and cities, never really getting too hot in the north, i think pleasantly warm as the best way to describe it. hello, you're watching the context. the end is nigh, or is it? or stock —— borisjohnson is resisting the pressure to quit from senior figures. it has been a bruising day for the prime minister. his closest allies are deserting him. 39 ministers and advisers have gone since yesterday afternoon, including the former health secretary, sajid javid. ferrite the former health secretary, sa'id javid. ~ ., ., ., the former health secretary, sa'id javid. ~ ., ., . javid. we have reason to catch questioned — javid. we have reason to catch questioned the _ javid. we have reason to catch questioned the truth of- javid. we have reason to catch questioned the truth of what i javid. we have reason to catch - questioned the truth of what we've been told. at some point, we have to conclude that enough is enough. i believe that point is now. among that group of cabinet ministers trying to ease him out tonight is the home secretary, priti patel. there could be more resignations to come. but the prime minister remains defiant.— minister remains defiant. frankly, the “ob of minister remains defiant. frankly, the job of a _ minister remains defiant. frankly, the job of a prime _ minister remains defiant. frankly, the job of a prime minister- minister remains defiant. frankly, the job of a prime minister in - the job of a prime minister in difficult — the job of a prime minister in difficult circumstances is to keep going. _ difficult circumstances is to keep going, and that's what i'm going to do. ., going, and that's what i'm going to do. a, . ., do. tonight with the context, justine greening, _ do. tonight with the context, justine greening, tom - do. tonight with the context, justine greening, tom peck, | justine greening, tom peck, catherine haven't and in downing street, my colleague, ros atkins. a very warm welcome to the programme. someone once said that politics is the art of controlling your environment. today, boris johnson lost all control. the two long hours, the prime minister was trapped in a committee hearing, defending his record and pointing to the mandate he'd been given while outside, his mps were organising. there was nothing the prime minister could do to prevent it. 39 members of his government have resigned since yesterday afternoon, and there may be other major resignations in the hours ahead. a group of cabinet colleagues arrived at number ten this evening to tell the prime minister was over. among them, priti patel, michael gove and crankshafts. but there are others, including the cultural there as it —— secretary, knitting dories. —— and grant shapps. —— needing dories. there are elections this week and seniorfigures there are elections this week and senior figures tell us they will change the rules to facilitate another boat in the immediately. let's go straight to downing street. ros atkins is there for us. it is a fast situations. 38 resignations has been 39. jacob young the latest ago. where do you think we are this hour? i think where we are right now is in a position where in the last 90 minutes, it is clear that boris johnson and colleagues, the journalists who cover politics here in westminster, that he's not going anywhere. this loss of cabinet members telling him to step down. the question was how much would mr johnson listen given that all day long, we've had this trip of resignations and no—confidence letters and backbenchers. as i said in the last hour or so, downing street is letting it be known that the prime minister is not going anywhere. the thing i would emphasise. the prime minister believes that from 2019 in his victory, he has a mandate from millions of people that he has an obligation to fulfil under the conservative party —— and that the conservative party —— and that the conservative party —— and that the conservative party should result. —— respect. his colleagues are saying thatis respect. his colleagues are saying that is the work they need to get on with. as you alluded to, the possibility of mrjohnson going this evening would appear to be unlikely given the messaging coming out of number ten. given the messaging coming out of numberten. i'll leave given the messaging coming out of number ten. i'll leave you with one last caveat — one reason he's in this situation is they told the press things that weren't true for several days about the allegations against chris pincher. when number ten says he's not going anywhere and is determined to fight on, we should pass on, but we also have that caveat. . pass on, but we also have that caveat. , ., caveat. the number of the prime minister points _ caveat. the number of the prime minister points to _ caveat. the number of the prime minister points to cannot - caveat. the number of the prime minister points to cannot be - caveat. the number of the prime . minister points to cannot be denied, but neither become the numbers of the most important electorate, the backbenchers who form part of the committee. i understand that chris heaton—harris is there tonight and graham brady. where did they think the numbers are?— graham brady. where did they think the numbers are? they're not saying which way the _ the numbers are? they're not saying which way the numbers _ the numbers are? they're not saying which way the numbers are - the numbers are? they're not saying which way the numbers are going. i the numbers are? they're not saying| which way the numbers are going. all we can really do is pick through what people have said publicly. clearly, more conservatives have come out in previous days. you boris johnson won by 59% a month ago. the discussions are interesting because if they change the rules, there can be another confidence vote much sooner and than a year. the reason that these mps that are so much is that these mps that are so much is that mrjohnson can put to the 2019 election and say, look, that was a lot of people voting for us. i that's not quite how the system works. people don't elect someone directly. they vote for local mps, who are representing a party, and all of those mps who are elected go to the house of commons and cluster together to form the majority. that majority is normally mps all coming from on party. —— one party. it is those mps who allow the prime minister to form the government, and they could take that right away. don't go anywhere, because you are our eyes and ears outside number ten. justin greening, you are a former cabinet minister, you know the layout in number ten. paint a picture for us tonight. who would have got access? what sort of access? how will the prime minister be reacting to the advice he's getting? it be reacting to the advice he's iiettin ? , ., , be reacting to the advice he's iiettin? , ~' be reacting to the advice he's ieittin? , ,, , getting? it sounds like boris johnson, rather _ getting? it sounds like boris johnson, rather than - getting? it sounds like boris - johnson, rather than seeing people who want— johnson, rather than seeing people who want him to resign en masse, he's seeing — who want him to resign en masse, he's seeing them one—on—one. therefore. _ he's seeing them one—on—one. therefore, this is a great way of having _ therefore, this is a great way of having a — therefore, this is a great way of having a much longer process this evening — having a much longer process this evening as — having a much longer process this evening. as you go into number ten, behind— evening. as you go into number ten, behind that— evening. as you go into number ten, behind that black door is a giant office _ behind that black door is a giant office with a lot of rooms where peopie — office with a lot of rooms where people are working in for meetings. i'm guessing now, there are some people. _ i'm guessing now, there are some people, other groups in other offices. — people, other groups in other offices, and there will be a lack of clarity _ offices, and there will be a lack of clarity about what's happening. this really _ clarity about what's happening. this really is _ clarity about what's happening. this really is unprecedented, christian. the prime — really is unprecedented, christian. the prime minister was asked today under— the prime minister was asked today under what — the prime minister was asked today under what circumstances he would resign. _ under what circumstances he would resign, and he said if he couldn't iet resign, and he said if he couldn't get on _ resign, and he said if he couldn't get on with— resign, and he said if he couldn't get on with the job of government, but it does— get on with the job of government, but it does beg the question if your bass binges are asking you to go —— backbenchers are asking you to go. if backbenchers are asking you to go. if you've _ backbenchers are asking you to go. if you've gotten a number of ministers _ if you've gotten a number of ministers tonight asking you to resign. — ministers tonight asking you to resign. if— ministers tonight asking you to resign, if that's not enough, what would _ resign, if that's not enough, what would be? — resign, if that's not enough, what would be? and it does feel like if we're _ would be? and it does feel like if we're not — would be? and it does feel like if we're not careful, we are getting into a _ we're not careful, we are getting into a constitutional crisis here in britain _ into a constitutional crisis here in britain at — into a constitutional crisis here in britain at the worst possible time. 0bviousiy— britain at the worst possible time. obviously on the horizon is vote within the 1920 new committee —— 1922 committee. if the cabinet resign en masse, he's in a very different position. sajid javid has said doing nothing is a conscious decision and quite clearly, there are seniorfigures who decision and quite clearly, there are senior figures who have leadership ambitions. at what point do you think those who are there tonight urging him to go off to make a decision about their own careers? i think if people outside no they've already— i think if people outside no they've already asked the prime minister to resign. _ already asked the prime minister to resign, they will have to to take —— take _ resign, they will have to to take —— take the _ resign, they will have to to take —— take the decision very quickly. i think there is now paralysis because my old _ think there is now paralysis because my old department for education, one of the _ my old department for education, one of the most _ my old department for education, one of the most important partners for delivering — of the most important partners for delivering leveling of, especially post—covid, as of tonight, we have a secretary— post—covid, as of tonight, we have a secretary of — post—covid, as of tonight, we have a secretary of state for education but no ministers. yet we're about to go into exam _ no ministers. yet we're about to go into exam season. this is a key time into exam season. this is a key time in the _ into exam season. this is a key time in the educational calendar. so it is an— in the educational calendar. so it is an unsustainable situation. we are tonight looking at what seems to be a conservative party civil war happening. some people want boris johnson _ happening. some people want boris johnson to— happening. some people want boris johnson to stay while i think the majority— johnson to stay while i think the majority will want him to go. this cannot— majority will want him to go. this cannot get— majority will want him to go. this cannot get on. you cannot have a paralysis— cannot get on. you cannot have a paralysis like this. it will need to be sorted — paralysis like this. it will need to be sorted out urgently. notjust the conservative party, but most importantly for britain. tom peck, here is some _ importantly for britain. tom peck, here is some of _ importantly for britain. tom peck, here is some of the _ importantly for britain. tom peck, here is some of the pressure - importantly for britain. tom peck, here is some of the pressure the i here is some of the pressure the ministers are facing. chris mason says that he's heard from the northern ireland secretary, who is one of those who want the prime minister to quit, and he was on a flight from belfast to london tonight. one passenger reportedly heckled him, telling him he was complicit in the betrayal of this country by borisjohnson. clearly a lot of people are getting in the ears, saying if you say, then you're propping them up —— if you stay. ferrite propping them up -- if you stay. we could propping them up —— if you stay. we could get to the nitty—gritty, but it seems — could get to the nitty—gritty, but it seems pretty— could get to the nitty—gritty, but it seems pretty clear— could get to the nitty—gritty, but it seems pretty clear that - could get to the nitty—gritty, but it seems pretty clear that the . it seems pretty clear that the tory party _ it seems pretty clear that the tory party has — it seems pretty clear that the tory party has decided _ it seems pretty clear that the tory party has decided they— it seems pretty clear that the tory party has decided they don't - it seems pretty clear that the tory party has decided they don't want| party has decided they don't want boris _ party has decided they don't want borisjohnson _ party has decided they don't want borisjohnson to— party has decided they don't want boris johnson to lead _ party has decided they don't want boris johnson to lead them - party has decided they don't want boris johnson to lead them any. party has decided they don't want - boris johnson to lead them any more, and that is— boris johnson to lead them any more, and that is the — boris johnson to lead them any more, and that is the end _ boris johnson to lead them any more, and that is the end of— boris johnson to lead them any more, and that is the end of him. _ boris johnson to lead them any more, and that is the end of him. it- boris johnson to lead them any more, and that is the end of him. it seems. and that is the end of him. it seems to be _ and that is the end of him. it seems to be likely— and that is the end of him. it seems to be likely that that _ and that is the end of him. it seems to be likely that that process - and that is the end of him. it seems to be likely that that process will. to be likely that that process will involve _ to be likely that that process will involve new _ to be likely that that process will involve new leadership _ to be likely that that process will involve new leadership next - to be likely that that process will. involve new leadership next week, which _ involve new leadership next week, which you — involve new leadership next week, which you will— involve new leadership next week, which you will lose _ involve new leadership next week, which you will lose by _ involve new leadership next week, which you will lose by a _ involve new leadership next week, which you will lose by a very- involve new leadership next week, which you will lose by a very big i which you will lose by a very big margin. — which you will lose by a very big margin. and _ which you will lose by a very big margin, and that _ which you will lose by a very big margin, and that will— which you will lose by a very big margin, and that will be - which you will lose by a very big margin, and that will be the - which you will lose by a very big i margin, and that will be the end of him _ margin, and that will be the end of him that — margin, and that will be the end of him that is — margin, and that will be the end of him. that is only— margin, and that will be the end of him. that is only a _ margin, and that will be the end of him. that is only a few— margin, and that will be the end of him. that is only a few days, - him. that is only a few days, but i'm not sure _ him. that is only a few days, but i'm not sure at_ him. that is only a few days, but i'm not sure at that— him. that is only a few days, but i'm not sure at that point- him. that is only a few days, but i'm not sure at that point what . i'm not sure at that point what certain ministers— i'm not sure at that point what certain ministers did _ i'm not sure at that point what certain ministers did or- i'm not sure at that point what certain ministers did or didn'ti i'm not sure at that point what . certain ministers did or didn't do today— certain ministers did or didn't do today or— certain ministers did or didn't do today or tomorrow— certain ministers did or didn't do today or tomorrow or— certain ministers did or didn't do today or tomorrow or the - certain ministers did or didn't do today or tomorrow or the next. certain ministers did or didn't do . today or tomorrow or the next day, will in _ today or tomorrow or the next day, will in fact— today or tomorrow or the next day, will in fact very— today or tomorrow or the next day, will in fact vary little _ today or tomorrow or the next day, will in fact vary little on _ today or tomorrow or the next day, will in fact vary little on their - will in fact vary little on their prospects _ will in fact vary little on their prospects i— will in fact vary little on their prospects. i think _ will in fact vary little on their prospects. i think most - will in fact vary little on their i prospects. i think most people will in fact vary little on their - prospects. i think most people see that the _ prospects. i think most people see that the game _ prospects. i think most people see that the game is _ prospects. i think most people see that the game is just _ prospects. i think most people see that the game isjust up. _ prospects. i think most people see that the game isjust up. i- prospects. i think most people see| that the game isjust up. i wouldn't say boris _ that the game isjust up. i wouldn't say borisjohnson _ that the game isjust up. i wouldn't say boris johnson has _ that the game isjust up. i wouldn't say boris johnson has any - that the game isjust up. i wouldn't say boris johnson has any enablers| say boris johnson has any enablers by this point— say boris johnson has any enablers by this point apart _ say boris johnson has any enablers by this point apart from _ say boris johnson has any enablers by this point apart from people - say boris johnson has any enablers| by this point apart from people who actively— by this point apart from people who actively continue _ by this point apart from people who actively continue to support - by this point apart from people who actively continue to support him. i actively continue to support him. what _ actively continue to support him. what chris— actively continue to support him. what chris is _ actively continue to support him. what chris is saying _ actively continue to support him. what chris is saying tonight - actively continue to support him. what chris is saying tonight is i actively continue to support him. i what chris is saying tonight is that the prime minister does not underestimate the stakes of what is happening. he is not oblivious to the figures. he makes the argument that he doesn't think any of his successors could remotely replicate the success that he achieved in wendy 19. the success that he achieved in wendy19. —— the success that he achieved in wendy 19. —— 2019. the success that he achieved in wendy19. —— 2019. he the success that he achieved in wendy 19. -- 2019.— the success that he achieved in wendy 19. -- 2019. he would say that, wouldn't _ wendy 19. -- 2019. he would say that, wouldn't he? _ wendy 19. -- 2019. he would say that, wouldn't he? you _ wendy 19. -- 2019. he would say that, wouldn't he? you were - wendy 19. -- 2019. he would say i that, wouldn't he? you were talking before _ that, wouldn't he? you were talking before about — that, wouldn't he? you were talking before about the _ that, wouldn't he? you were talking before about the 14 _ that, wouldn't he? you were talking before about the 14 million - that, wouldn't he? you were talking before about the 14 million strong . before about the 14 million strong mandate — before about the 14 million strong mandate if— before about the 14 million strong mandate. if the _ before about the 14 million strong mandate. if the conservative - before about the 14 million strongi mandate. if the conservative party felt that— mandate. if the conservative party felt that mandate _ mandate. if the conservative party felt that mandate was _ mandate. if the conservative party felt that mandate was still - mandate. if the conservative party felt that mandate was still in - felt that mandate was still in place. — felt that mandate was still in place. the _ felt that mandate was still in place. the i4— felt that mandate was still in place, the 14 million- felt that mandate was still in place, the 14 million peoplei felt that mandate was still in . place, the 14 million people still back him. — place, the 14 million people still back him, believe _ place, the 14 million people still back him, believe me, - place, the 14 million people still back him, believe me, none - place, the 14 million people still back him, believe me, none of. place, the 14 million people still. back him, believe me, none of this would _ back him, believe me, none of this would happeh _ back him, believe me, none of this would happen. it's _ back him, believe me, none of this would happen. it's only— back him, believe me, none of this would happen. it's only happeningi would happen. it's only happening because _ would happen. it's only happening because they're sure _ would happen. it's only happening because they're sure that - would happen. it's only happening because they're sure that he's - would happen. it's only happening| because they're sure that he's lost that mandate _ because they're sure that he's lost that mandate. as— because they're sure that he's lost that mandate. as for— because they're sure that he's lost that mandate. as for his _ because they're sure that he's losti that mandate. as for his successor, there _ that mandate. as for his successor, there are _ that mandate. as for his successor, there are potential— that mandate. as for his successor, there are potential successors. - that mandate. as for his successor, there are potential successors. i- there are potential successors. i don't _ there are potential successors. i don't believe _ there are potential successors. i don't believe rishi _ there are potential successors. i don't believe rishi sunak- there are potential successors. i don't believe rishi sunak is - there are potential successors. i don't believe rishi sunak is a i don't believe rishi sunak is a busted — don't believe rishi sunak is a busted flat~ _ don't believe rishi sunak is a busted flat. i— don't believe rishi sunak is a busted flat. i don't— don't believe rishi sunak is a busted flat. i don't think - don't believe rishi sunak is a busted flat. i don't think the i busted flat. idon't think the greens— busted flat. i don't think the greens card _ busted flat. i don't think the greens card is _ busted flat. i don't think the greens card is a _ busted flat. idon't think the greens card is a career- busted flat. i don't think the i greens card is a career ender. busted flat. i don't think the - greens card is a career ender. not clear— greens card is a career ender. not clear whether _ greens card is a career ender. not clear whether or _ greens card is a career ender. not clear whether or not— greens card is a career ender. not clear whether or not his _ greens card is a career ender. not clear whether or not his family- greens card is a career ender. not. clear whether or not his family want him to— clear whether or not his family want him to do— clear whether or not his family want him to do it — clear whether or not his family want him to do it any— clear whether or not his family want him to do it any more _ clear whether or not his family want him to do it any more because - clear whether or not his family want him to do it any more because they| him to do it any more because they have _ him to do it any more because they have pretty— him to do it any more because they have pretty -- _ him to do it any more because they have pretty —— they got _ him to do it any more because they have pretty —— they got pretty - him to do it any more because they| have pretty —— they got pretty badly burned~ _ have pretty —— they got pretty badly burned~ it's— have pretty —— they got pretty badly burned. it's not _ have pretty —— they got pretty badly burned. it's not the _ have pretty —— they got pretty badly burned. it's not the case _ have pretty —— they got pretty badly burned. it's not the case that- have pretty —— they got pretty badly burned. it's not the case that there| burned. it's not the case that there are no— burned. it's not the case that there are no potential— burned. it's not the case that there are no potential successors. - burned. it's not the case that there are no potential successors. therei are no potential successors. there is no _ are no potential successors. there is no one~~~ — are no potential successors. there is no one~~~ what— are no potential successors. there is no one... what makes - are no potential successors. there is no one... what makes the - is no one... what makes the situation _ is no one... what makes the situation so _ is no one... what makes the situation so strange, - is no one... what makes the situation so strange, it - is no one... what makes the situation so strange, it is- is no one... what makes the - situation so strange, it is entirely of his— situation so strange, it is entirely of his own — situation so strange, it is entirely of his own doing. _ situation so strange, it is entirely of his own doing. there _ situation so strange, it is entirely of his own doing. there hasn't. situation so strange, it is entirely. of his own doing. there hasn't been an economic— of his own doing. there hasn't been an economic crisis. _ of his own doing. there hasn't been an economic crisis. he _ of his own doing. there hasn't been an economic crisis. he was - an economic crisis. he was considered _ an economic crisis. he was considered to— an economic crisis. he was considered to be _ an economic crisis. he was considered to be home - an economic crisis. he was| considered to be home and an economic crisis. he was - considered to be home and dry and october _ considered to be home and dry and october all— considered to be home and dry and october. all of— considered to be home and dry and october. all of this _ considered to be home and dry and october. all of this is _ considered to be home and dry and october. all of this is a _ considered to be home and dry and october. all of this is a mess. - considered to be home and dry and october. all of this is a mess. i- october. all of this is a mess. i think— october. all of this is a mess. i think is— october. all of this is a mess. i think is mps— october. all of this is a mess. i think is mps know— october. all of this is a mess. i think is mps know that - catherine, i want to come to you in a second. you have a very important role to play tonight. ros, i understand someone just went through the door in number ten.— the door in number ten. another big car 'ust the door in number ten. another big carjust came — the door in number ten. another big carjust came in- _ the door in number ten. another big carjust came in. door _ the door in number ten. another big carjust came in. door opened - the door in number ten. another big carjust came in. door opened and i carjust came in. door opened and threw it went brandon lewis. one of the cabinet ministers you would be talking about. we know he has great concerns about mrjohnson's ability to continue. his arrival has been delayed but he's in there now. at some point, sooner than later, he will talk to borisjohnson about sooner than later, he will talk to boris johnson about those concerns. but we do have an indication of what the message he will receive may be because our colleague has tweeted a statement from a number ten source. ,. "the statement from a number ten source. " "the prime ministerfights on. there will be a couple of appointments tonight but it's not true a procession of ministers are telling him to go. you will find out some have gone beyond redemption, that he's muddling out that 14 million people voted. if the party wanted that, they have to take the mandate off them. he's called their bluff. graham brady says a 1922 election on monday. they could decide to change the rules. this source goes on. "momentum is not going to dislodge him as he's explained, the chances not boris or not, the is giving him a new change with a fresh chancellor and a new programme." that is explicit criticism and we knew there were differences about how much to borrow and spend between the now former chancellor and borisjohnson. so, they're saying a new programme's possible, rishi was not prepared, or the alternative is they say spend months ripping each other apart. labour then break written. —— break—up written. —— britain. is not always been directly connected to the truth, but that is a strong message to the bbc that the prime minister is for now going nowhere. not is an extremely optimistic reading of the situation. someone else could be in charge that the summer during the recess more this election campaign unfolds. a new leader is in place for the conference. maybe we'll get back into that later. let's talk to catherine about a couple of things. first of all, i want to talk about the threat that... sorry. sorry, i'm just being told in my ear that the prime minister has fired michael gove. michael gove was not at the prime minister's questions this afternoon. he was one of those ministers urging the prime minister to go. he was the one who stabbed her the prime minister and the back. but he has been extremely loyal to the prime minister that's everything that's happened in recent months, but tonight, i think the straw has broken the camel's back and michael gove have been removed from position. you will will come back in a second. there is clearly concern about this, and in fact it was expressed today within the liaison committee hearing, and sir bernard wanted to guarantee that there would not be an election. can the prime minister do that? can he take the country to an election or is something stopping him? the first thin to something stopping him? the first thing to say _ something stopping him? the first thing to say is _ something stopping him? the first thing to say is the _ something stopping him? the first thing to say is the request - something stopping him? the first thing to say is the request for - something stopping him? the first thing to say is the request for a i thing to say is the request for a dissolution is just that. thing to say is the request for a dissolution isjust that. when thing to say is the request for a dissolution is just that. when they made the changes to the fixed—term parliaments act, put it back in the hands of the prime minister, there was a change that one point to make clear that it wasn't advice. along with that, they talk about dissolution principles, which were agreed with the governments and the palace that these existed at times when the palace could refuse it. those include the fact that there is a viable parliament, so you don't need a new election, but the conservatives have a strong majority. the other one was that there was an alternative government in place. if that happened, a different government could be formed and the prime minister is potentially facing a vote of confidence with the potential of a new leader. both of those criteria exist, but there's a third really important principle, which is you don't track the queen into massive political controversy. the idea of when your party is in the process of ousting you, as it seems to be, the idea of trying to avoid that by going to the country that the party don't want the general election, would be extraordinary. in those circumstances, i think the queen could refuse. but it ought not to get to that point because the palace should say don't ask for this. you will not be allowed it. boris johnson today said no, he thought election would be massively destabilising. he's kind of answer to the question himself. all of that would make it quite and extraordinary.— would make it quite and extraordinary. would make it quite and extraordina . , �* , extraordinary. chris meet... he's still threatening _ extraordinary. chris meet... he'sj still threatening ministers with... talkback still threatening ministers with... talkbacr , still threatening ministers with... talkbac , , , ., still threatening ministers with... talkbac . ., talkback this is similar to the mandate of— talkback this is similar to the mandate of the _ talkback this is similar to the mandate of the 14 _ talkback this is similar to the mandate of the 14 million. i talkback this is similar to the | mandate of the 14 million. it's talkback this is similar to the i mandate of the 14 million. it's a nonsense of the constitution. you are there because the party won that mandate. it may have been under your watch, but it was the party who won. therefore, it's really up to the party whether or not they keep you as a leader. all of these are political pressure points. as is firing members of your cabinet. coming out foolishly like this. it's what he did when he won the confidence votes. clearly the final role of the dice —— bullish. it is now down to whether the mechanism can finish him off.— can finish him off. justine greening. _ can finish him off. justine greening, you _ can finish him off. justine greening, you know- can finish him off. justine i greening, you know michael can finish him off. justine - greening, you know michael gove can finish him off. justine _ greening, you know michael gove very well. some people like him because he's confident. there are others who loathe him and won't be sorry to see him go. the issue here is in the last few days, rishi sunak, sajid javid, michael gove, i'll go some of the top ministers in the dash out goes the cabinet. whether there are enough people to risk their own careers to fill in the gaps. exactly, and whatever you think about _ exactly, and whatever you think about michael gove, i think most people _ about michael gove, i think most people would say he's a very competent secretary of state. he .ets competent secretary of state. he gets things done. certainly, for all the issues — gets things done. certainly, for all the issues i — gets things done. certainly, for all the issues i campaigned on, i respected what he was doing in that role and _ respected what he was doing in that role and i_ respected what he was doing in that role and i think he had gone as far as anyone — role and i think he had gone as far as anyone in this government to put forward a _ as anyone in this government to put forward a broader plan of how we might— forward a broader plan of how we might see — forward a broader plan of how we might see leveling up happening in britain _ might see leveling up happening in britain i_ might see leveling up happening in britain. i am astonished to see boris _ britain. i am astonished to see borisjohnson fire britain. i am astonished to see boris johnson fire someone britain. i am astonished to see borisjohnson fire someone like michael— borisjohnson fire someone like michael gove, but i think itjust underlines that these are not normal times— underlines that these are not normal times and _ underlines that these are not normal times and it — underlines that these are not normal times and it really does remind me of watching context when drugs supporters were supporting the capital— supporters were supporting the capital -- — supporters were supporting the capital —— trump supporters. it feels _ capital —— trump supporters. it feels a — capital —— trump supporters. it feels a little bit like that in the sense — feels a little bit like that in the sense you have a prime minister who is simply— sense you have a prime minister who is simply refusing to resign. it is a parliamentary party system. he isn't a _ a parliamentary party system. he isn't a president. he has lost confidence. yet he won't go. we have never— confidence. yet he won't go. we have never seen _ confidence. yet he won't go. we have never seen anything like this before and i never seen anything like this before and i think— never seen anything like this before and i think it underlines why many in the _ and i think it underlines why many in the conservative party will feel the sooner— in the conservative party will feel the sooner they're able to move on and work— the sooner they're able to move on and work out what comes next, the better _ and work out what comes next, the better. ., , ., . better. tom, you are in the committee _ better. tom, you are in the committee hearing - better. tom, you are in the committee hearing and i better. tom, you are in the i committee hearing and i know better. tom, you are in the - committee hearing and i know you've been reading the rooms of the cabinet through the day. why do you think he's picked michael gove? what role was he playing? ltrefoil. think he's picked michael gove? what role was he playing?— role was he playing? well, michael gove went awol, _ role was he playing? well, michael gove went awol, more _ role was he playing? well, michael gove went awol, more or - role was he playing? well, michael gove went awol, more or less. i role was he playing? well, michael| gove went awol, more or less. he role was he playing? well, michael- gove went awol, more or less. he was never— gove went awol, more or less. he was never seen — gove went awol, more or less. he was never seen again— gove went awol, more or less. he was never seen again after— gove went awol, more or less. he was never seen again after pmqs. _ gove went awol, more or less. he was never seen again after pmqs. we - gove went awol, more or less. he was never seen again after pmqs. we are i never seen again after pmqs. we are led to— never seen again after pmqs. we are led to believe that _ never seen again after pmqs. we are led to believe that he _ never seen again after pmqs. we are led to believe that he was _ never seen again after pmqs. we are led to believe that he was one - led to believe that he was one person— led to believe that he was one person telling _ led to believe that he was one person telling number- led to believe that he was one person telling number ten... | led to believe that he was one i person telling number ten... they have _ person telling number ten... they have not— person telling number ten... they have not denied _ person telling number ten... they have not denied that _ person telling number ten... they have not denied that gove - person telling number ten... they have not denied that gove has i person telling number ten... theyj have not denied that gove has told boris _ have not denied that gove has told borisjohnson _ have not denied that gove has told borisjohnson that— have not denied that gove has told boris johnson that it's _ have not denied that gove has told boris johnson that it's time - have not denied that gove has told boris johnson that it's time to - boris johnson that it's time to quit — boris johnson that it's time to quit if— boris johnson that it's time to quit. if you're _ boris johnson that it's time to quit. if you're one _ boris johnson that it's time to quit. if you're one of- boris johnson that it's time to quit. if you're one of boris- quit. if you're one of boris johnson's _ quit. if you're one of boris johnson's biggest - quit. if you're one of boris johnson's biggest fans, i quit. if you're one of boris. johnson's biggest fans, you quit. if you're one of boris- johnson's biggest fans, you would say he's _ johnson's biggest fans, you would say he's not — johnson's biggest fans, you would say he's not going _ johnson's biggest fans, you would say he's not going to _ johnson's biggest fans, you would say he's not going to get - johnson's biggest fans, you would say he's not going to get bogged i say he's not going to get bogged down _ say he's not going to get bogged down in — say he's not going to get bogged down in the _ say he's not going to get bogged down in the nitty—gritty. - say he's not going to get bogged down in the nitty—gritty. he - say he's not going to get bogged i down in the nitty—gritty. he wants to get _ down in the nitty—gritty. he wants to get on— down in the nitty—gritty. he wants to get on with _ down in the nitty—gritty. he wants to get on with the _ down in the nitty—gritty. he wants to get on with the job _ down in the nitty—gritty. he wants to get on with the job of— down in the nitty—gritty. he wants to get on with the job of doing i to get on with the job of doing things— to get on with the job of doing things that _ to get on with the job of doing things that make _ to get on with the job of doing things that make a _ to get on with the job of doing things that make a differencei to get on with the job of doing i things that make a difference to people's— things that make a difference to people's lives _ things that make a difference to people's lives. one _ things that make a difference to people's lives. one of— things that make a difference to people's lives. one of the - people's lives. one of the most significant bits— people's lives. one of the most significant bits of— people's lives. one of the most significant bits of evidence i people's lives. one of the most significant bits of evidence is i people's lives. one of the most. significant bits of evidence is the fact that — significant bits of evidence is the fact that he _ significant bits of evidence is the fact that he made _ significant bits of evidence is the fact that he made michael- significant bits of evidence is the fact that he made michael govel significant bits of evidence is the i fact that he made michael gove this buccaneer— fact that he made michael gove this buccaneer and — fact that he made michael gove this buccaneer and get— fact that he made michael gove this buccaneer and get things _ fact that he made michael gove this buccaneer and get things done - buccaneer and get things done powerful— buccaneer and get things done powerful influence _ buccaneer and get things done powerful influence or- buccaneer and get things done powerful influence or ——. - buccaneer and get things done powerful influence or ——. it's. buccaneer and get things done i powerful influence or ——. it's not considered — powerful influence or ——. it's not considered to _ powerful influence or ——. it's not considered to be _ powerful influence or ——. it's not considered to be a _ powerful influence or ——. it's not considered to be a very- powerful influence or ——. it's not. considered to be a very glamourous 'ob, considered to be a very glamourous job, but— considered to be a very glamourous job, but it's— considered to be a very glamourous job, but it's a — considered to be a very glamourous job, but it's a really, _ considered to be a very glamourous job, but it's a really, really- job, but it's a really, really important _ job, but it's a really, really importantjob, _ job, but it's a really, really importantjob, and- job, but it's a really, really importantjob, and the i job, but it's a really, reallyj importantjob, and the fact job, but it's a really, really- importantjob, and the fact that he's now— importantjob, and the fact that he's now had _ importantjob, and the fact that he's now had to _ importantjob, and the fact that he's now had to fire _ importantjob, and the fact that he's now had to fire him - important job, and the fact that i he's now had to fire him isjust... you _ he's now had to fire him isjust... you couldn't— he's now had to fire him isjust... you couldn't want _ he's now had to fire him isjust... you couldn't want for— he's now had to fire him isjust... you couldn't want for a _ he's now had to fire him isjust... i you couldn't want for a cleaner bit of evidence — you couldn't want for a cleaner bit of evidence for— you couldn't want for a cleaner bit of evidence for why _ you couldn't want for a cleaner bit of evidence for why the _ you couldn't want for a cleaner bit of evidence for why the game's i you couldn't want for a cleaner biti of evidence for why the game's up. he can't— of evidence for why the game's up. he can't do— of evidence for why the game's up. he can't do it — of evidence for why the game's up. he can't do it because _ of evidence for why the game's up. he can't do it because you've - of evidence for why the game's up. i he can't do it because you've turned everything _ he can't do it because you've turned everything into— he can't do it because you've turned everything into a _ he can't do it because you've turned everything into a mess _ he can't do it because you've turned everything into a mess and - he can't do it because you've turned everything into a mess and you - he can't do it because you've turned| everything into a mess and you have to fire _ everything into a mess and you have to fire him — everything into a mess and you have to fire him it's— everything into a mess and you have to fire him. it's as _ everything into a mess and you have to fire him. it's as bad _ everything into a mess and you have to fire him. it's as bad as— everything into a mess and you have to fire him. it's as bad as it gets. i to fire him. it's as bad as it gets. just listen — to fire him. it's as bad as it gets. just listen to _ to fire him. it's as bad as it gets. just listen to this _ to fire him. it's as bad as it gets. just listen to this briefing - to fire him. it's as bad as it gets. just listen to this briefing from i just listen to this briefing from number ten tonight on the sacking of michael gove. a source has said, "you can't have a snake who is not with you on any of the big arguments who then gleefully tells the press the leader has to go." the prime minister rang michael gove to tell him he was sacked in the last 15 minutes. i him he was sacked in the last 15 minutes. ~ , him he was sacked in the last 15 minutes. ~' , , ., minutes. i think it tells you everything about _ minutes. i think it tells you everything about where i minutes. i think it tells you i everything about where number minutes. i think it tells you - everything about where number ten minutes. i think it tells you _ everything about where number ten is at the _ everything about where number ten is at the moment. i think the rest of the world — at the moment. i think the rest of the world will be watching astonished of what is going on at number— astonished of what is going on at number ten downing st this evening. and wondering how borisjohnson, would _ and wondering how borisjohnson, would support literally falling away minute _ would support literally falling away minute by minute, can really think he can— minute by minute, can really think he can keep — minute by minute, can really think he can keep going. the damage that he can keep going. the damage that he will— he can keep going. the damage that he will do _ he can keep going. the damage that he will do to the country as we continue — he will do to the country as we continue in _ he will do to the country as we continue in this paralysis until we're — continue in this paralysis until we're able to find out how we break it in the _ we're able to find out how we break it in the conservative party can get into a _ it in the conservative party can get into a process of finding a new leader, this is literally the worst possible — leader, this is literally the worst possible time we can have to have a prime minister that won't listen to his party— prime minister that won't listen to his party and won't leave number ten~ _ his party and won't leave number ten~ we — his party and won't leave number ten. we face a cost of living crisis~ — ten. we face a cost of living crisis~ we _ ten. we face a cost of living crisis. we have a war in ukraine. the _ crisis. we have a war in ukraine. the country— crisis. we have a war in ukraine. the country itself faces some really challenging issues such as leveling up challenging issues such as leveling up and _ challenging issues such as leveling up and improving opportunities. we're _ up and improving opportunities. we're trying to get back on our feet after covid — we're trying to get back on our feet after covid. we need a functioning government. that's the most important thing right now. it's clear— important thing right now. it's clear to — important thing right now. it's clear to me, looking and talking with my— clear to me, looking and talking with my own former parliamentary colleagues, that's what they want to move _ colleagues, that's what they want to move on— colleagues, that's what they want to move on to — colleagues, that's what they want to move on to and i think it is absolutely incredible that night, the comfort —— tonight, the conservatives are fighting more with borisjohnson than the conservatives are fighting more with boris johnson than the opposition partv _ boris johnson than the opposition party. be— boris johnson than the opposition .a . �* , ., , boris johnson than the opposition party. by any standards, it has been the most punishing _ party. by any standards, it has been the most punishing day _ party. by any standards, it has been the most punishing day for- party. by any standards, it has been the most punishing day for mr i the most punishing day for mr johnson. the labour leader sometimes accused him of... he was relentless today. with the ring in his criticism.— today. with the ring in his criticism. . u , . , ., , today. with the ring in his criticism. . , criticism. unacceptable in any loss of life. if there _ criticism. unacceptable in any loss of life. if there for _ criticism. unacceptable in any loss of life. if there for all _ criticism. unacceptable in any loss of life. if there for all to _ criticism. unacceptable in any loss of life. if there for all to see, i of life. if there for all to see, but he — of life. if there for all to see, but he ignores _ of life. if there for all to see, but he ignores it. _ of life. if there for all to see, but he ignores it. it - of life. if there for all to see, but he ignores it. it was - of life. if there for all to see, but he ignores it. it was the. of life. if there for all to see, i but he ignores it. it was the same when _ but he ignores it. it was the same when his— but he ignores it. it was the same when his allies _ but he ignores it. it was the same when his allies was _ but he ignores it. it was the same when his allies was on the - but he ignores it. it was the same when his allies was on the tape i but he ignores it. it was the same i when his allies was on the tape from the lobbvist~ it— when his allies was on the tape from the lobbyist. it was _ when his allies was on the tape from the lobbyist. it was the same - when his allies was on the tape from the lobbyist. it was the same when i the lobbyist. it was the same when his home _ the lobbyist. it was the same when his home secretary— the lobbyist. it was the same when his home secretary was _ the lobbyist. it was the same when his home secretary was bullying i his home secretary was bullying staff _ his home secretary was bullying staff it — his home secretary was bullying staff it was _ his home secretary was bullying staff. it was the _ his home secretary was bullying staff. it was the same _ his home secretary was bullying staff. it was the same when - staff. it was the same when taxpayers' _ staff. it was the same when taxpayers' money _ staff. it was the same when taxpayers' money was - staff. it was the same when - taxpayers' money was being abused and it_ taxpayers' money was being abused and it was_ taxpayers' money was being abused and it was the — taxpayers' money was being abused and it was the tame _ taxpayers' money was being abused and it was the tame when _ taxpayers' money was being abused and it was the tame when he - taxpayers' money was being abused and it was the tame when he and i taxpayers' money was being abused| and it was the tame when he and his mates _ and it was the tame when he and his mates party— and it was the tame when he and his mates party their_ and it was the tame when he and his mates party their way— mates party their way through lockdown _ mates party their way through lockdown. anyone _ mates party their way through lockdown. anyone quitting - mates party their way through l lockdown. anyone quitting now mates party their way through - lockdown. anyone quitting now after defending _ lockdown. anyone quitting now after defending all— lockdown. anyone quitting now after defending all that _ lockdown. anyone quitting now after defending all that hasn't _ lockdown. anyone quitting now after defending all that hasn't got - lockdown. anyone quitting now after defending all that hasn't got a - defending all that hasn't got a shred — defending all that hasn't got a shred of— defending all that hasn't got a shred of integrity. _ defending all that hasn't got a shred of integrity. mr- defending all that hasn't got a l shred of integrity. mr speaker, isn't _ shred of integrity. mr speaker, isn't this— shred of integrity. mr speaker, isn't this the _ shred of integrity. mr speaker, isn't this the first _ shred of integrity. mr speaker, isn't this the first recorded - shred of integrity. mr speaker, | isn't this the first recorded case of the _ isn't this the first recorded case of the sinking _ isn't this the first recorded case of the sinking ship _ isn't this the first recorded case of the sinking ship fleeing - isn't this the first recorded case of the sinking ship fleeing the l isn't this the first recorded case i of the sinking ship fleeing the rat? the prime — of the sinking ship fleeing the rat? the prime minister— of the sinking ship fleeing the rat? the prime minister remained - of the sinking ship fleeing the rat? l the prime minister remained defiant throughout. here's the tory mp putting the question many in the country have been asking. does the prime minister _ country have been asking. does the prime minister think _ country have been asking. does the prime minister think there - country have been asking. does the prime minister think there are - country have been asking. does the prime minister think there are any i prime minister think there are any circumstances under which he should resign? circumstances under which he should resin? �* , resign? laughter mr speaker, - resign? laughter | mr speaker, clearly, resign? laughter - mr speaker, clearly, if there resign? laughter _ mr speaker, clearly, if there were circumstances in which i felt it was impossible — circumstances in which i felt it was impossible for the government to go on _ impossible for the government to go on the _ impossible for the government to go on... the mandate we've been given or if i_ on... the mandate we've been given or if i feit— on... the mandate we've been given or if i felt that we were being frustrated in our desire to support the ukrainian people, then i would. but frankly, the job of the prime minister— but frankly, the job of the prime minister and difficult circumstances when _ minister and difficult circumstances when you've been handing a mandate is to keep _ when you've been handing a mandate is to keep going, which is what i will d0~ — is to keep going, which is what i will do. . ., is to keep going, which is what i will do. . . ., will do. then came to the conservative mp - will do. then came to the conservative mp gary - will do. then came to the | conservative mp gary sam will do. then came to the - conservative mp gary sam broke. yesterday, the prime minister said that there — yesterday, the prime minister said that there were _ yesterday, the prime minister said that there were seven _ yesterday, the prime minister said that there were seven people - yesterday, the prime minister said that there were seven people in. yesterday, the prime minister said| that there were seven people in the club that there were seven people in the dub tast— that there were seven people in the dub last week — that there were seven people in the club last week and _ that there were seven people in the club last week and one _ that there were seven people in the club last week and one of— that there were seven people in the club last week and one of them - club last week and one of them should try— club last week and one of them should try to _ club last week and one of them should try to intervene - club last week and one of them should try to intervene to - club last week and one of them should try to intervene to stop| should try to intervene to stop chris— should try to intervene to stop chris from _ should try to intervene to stop chris from drinking _ should try to intervene to stop chris from drinking so - should try to intervene to stop chris from drinking so much. i should try to intervene to stop. chris from drinking so much. as should try to intervene to stop . chris from drinking so much. as if that was— chris from drinking so much. as if that was insulting _ chris from drinking so much. as if that was insulting enough - chris from drinking so much. as if that was insulting enough to - that was insulting enough to the people _ that was insulting enough to the peogte who _ that was insulting enough to the peogte who did _ that was insulting enough to the people who did try _ that was insulting enough to the people who did try and - that was insulting enough to the| people who did try and intervene that night — people who did try and intervene that night. also— people who did try and intervene that night. also to _ people who did try and intervene that night. also to the _ people who did try and intervene that night. also to the victims i people who did try and intervene i that night. also to the victims that drink— that night. also to the victims that drink was— that night. also to the victims that drink was the _ that night. also to the victims that drink was the problem. _ that night. also to the victims that drink was the problem. is - that night. also to the victims that drink was the problem. is it - that night. also to the victims that drink was the problem. is it the i drink was the problem. is it the example — drink was the problem. is it the example that _ drink was the problem. is it the example that the _ drink was the problem. is it the example that the prime - drink was the problem. is it the l example that the prime minister constantly— example that the prime minister constantly tries _ example that the prime minister constantly tries to _ example that the prime minister constantly tries to deflect - example that the prime minister constantly tries to deflect from i example that the prime minister. constantly tries to deflect from the issue. _ constantly tries to deflect from the issue. always — constantly tries to deflect from the issue, always tries _ constantly tries to deflect from the issue, always tries to _ constantly tries to deflect from the issue, always tries to blame - constantly tries to deflect from the issue, always tries to blame otheri issue, always tries to blame other people _ issue, always tries to blame other peogte for— issue, always tries to blame other people for mistakes, _ issue, always tries to blame other people for mistakes, and - issue, always tries to blame other people for mistakes, and nothingi people for mistakes, and nothing left for— people for mistakes, and nothing left for him — people for mistakes, and nothing left for him to _ people for mistakes, and nothing left for him to do _ people for mistakes, and nothing left for him to do other— people for mistakes, and nothing left for him to do other than - people for mistakes, and nothing left for him to do other than takei left for him to do other than take responsibility and _ left for him to do other than take responsibility and resign. - left for him to do other than take responsibility and resign. applause not something _ responsibility and resign. applause not something you _ responsibility and resign. applause not something you often _ responsibility and resign. applause not something you often hear. - responsibility and resign. applause not something you often hear. ros, i not something you often hear. ros, it was interesting listening to the prime minister's answers, turning on his other mp5 as if they were on the other side. his other mp5 as if they were on the otherside. but his other mps as if they were on the other side. �* ~ ., �* , his other mps as if they were on the other side. �* ,, . �* , . other side. but i think that's what we're seeing- _ other side. but i think that's what we're seeing. it's _ other side. but i think that's what we're seeing. it's been _ other side. but i think that's what we're seeing. it's been really - we're seeing. it's been really interesting listening to your guests. borisjohnson is a political bruiser. look at what he's done to michael gove. no sentiment, no fact that mr gove has stayed with him through a number of peerless moments. he's decided that he's got to go. borisjohnson is not going to hang around waiting for conservative mps to attack him. he's not going to play nice with them. this is becoming through from all the briefings, feels he has this mandate for these people who want him to use his phrase, to get brexit done. frankly, that connection to him is sounding more important than the connection between him and some of his conservative party colleagues. it came through and some of the prime minister's questions, in the parliamentary committee in the afternoon, certainly in the extraordinary briefing you've read out for number ten. it's brutal stuff, politics, when it gets this sharp, but when mr shontz —— this shouldn't come as a surprise because we've seen him do this repeatedly. he comes up under pressure, he has seen off people he thinks is in the way without sentiment.— seen off people he thinks is in the way without sentiment. michael gove one, said way without sentiment. michael gove gone. sajid javid _ way without sentiment. michael gove gone, sajid javid gone, _ way without sentiment. michael gove gone, sajid javid gone, rishi - way without sentiment. michael gove gone, sajid javid gone, rishi sunak. gone, sajid javid gone, rishi sunak on, we wait on brandon lewis, who is behind the door. ros, thank you very much for your company this evening. borisjohnson has today referred to the mandate he was given in 201911; million people voted for this prime minister. he won the conservatives' biggest maturity since 1980. let's discuss that. he's the head of political polling. should welcome to the programme. to answer your question, the polling tonight, how many of them want boris johnson to go and how many of them wanting to stay? that johnson to go and how many of them wanting to stay?— wanting to stay? that is really important _ wanting to stay? that is really important question _ wanting to stay? that is really important question because . wanting to stay? that is really - important question because they're having so much this evening from the prime minister about those 1a million people that voted for him in 2019. we are not hearing so much about is in current polling evidence, 1a million said they were not full for him if there was another general election and i would almost certainly mean borisjohnson was out of downing street and keir starmer was in downing street instead possibly after today's event with the majority of his own. 0r probably more interesting than that of those 14 more interesting than that of those 1a million that voted for him in 2019, a majority somewhere around seven and a half million city not think it is time for the prime minister to resign. those cabinet ministers are going to downing street and asking for the prime minister to resign or performing what is the will of those 1a million people that voted for borisjohnson. the leveling of secretary and it is crucial that with the prime minister was trying to achieve. it was a red wall pool carried on as adjusted labour, labourwere wall pool carried on as adjusted labour, labour were leading the conservatives by 10% and labour were 46%, which is up eight from the general election in 2019 the conservatives run 36%, which is down 11. if you look at the latest with them sir keir starmer boris right now, you can see borisjohnson is nowhere. his favorability is down to 32,-32% nowhere. his favorability is down to 32,—32% in keir starmer not usually popular and some say he isn't doing enoughin popular and some say he isn't doing enough in the context but they still suggest is 30 points ahead ahead of the prime minister. and going back to the polling in those red wall seats, how did you see the looks right now?— seats, how did you see the looks riaht now? , . , . . right now? pretty devastating. but boris johnson _ right now? pretty devastating. but boris johnson would _ right now? pretty devastating. but boris johnson would lose, - right now? pretty devastating. but boris johnson would lose, we - right now? pretty devastating. but boris johnson would lose, we can l borisjohnson would lose, we can talk about red wall seats, the seats, that historically proceeds that a conservative gain of labour in 2019, partly off the back of boris johnson's in 2019, partly off the back of borisjohnson's personal popularity among those types of voters way brexit divided the country. in those seats, the conservatives would lose most of them at the stage but on top of that, they would lose many seats to the liberal democrats across the southwest of england and also some seats that are not necessarily red wall seats but traditionally marginal seats and lose the respect of the labour party which released on current polling, we go from that historic incredibly impressive conservative majority of the boris johnson managed to achieve and to this 19 because the prime minister some popularity in the conservatives following so much we would go from that position to position were actually, labour would almost certainly end up in government i think that is one of the reasons that's has been going on for months, the polling is been pretty consistent since start of the year, the result why conservative members are saying we need to change something it seems like the most obvious thing. the something it seems like the most obvious thing.— something it seems like the most obvious thing. the most fascinating thin about obvious thing. the most fascinating thing about the _ obvious thing. the most fascinating thing about the many _ obvious thing. the most fascinating thing about the many resignations. thing about the many resignations that we have had over the last 2a hours in the letters that have come in is that many of them voted for the prime minister and the recent confidence vote in many of them are the new intake from some of these red wall seats. if they change the rules as we expect them to next week, how is that going to work with mac what will the rules look like and what sort of bar with the backbenchers need to reach? this is an extraordinary _ backbenchers need to reach? this is an extraordinary turnaround - backbenchers need to reach? this is an extraordinary turnaround because many— an extraordinary turnaround because many of— an extraordinary turnaround because many of the — an extraordinary turnaround because many of the people calling for him to resign _ many of the people calling for him to resign resent only we could go that you — to resign resent only we could go that you cannot change the rules and will be _ that you cannot change the rules and will be inappropriate to do so and now _ will be inappropriate to do so and now. the — will be inappropriate to do so and now, the situation has gotten so extraordinary that they see no other option— extraordinary that they see no other option and _ extraordinary that they see no other option and there's been various rumours — option and there's been various rumours going on about different approaches they might take some tatked _ approaches they might take some talked about the outgoing executive committee changing the rules today they decided not to do so and they have treen— they decided not to do so and they have been talking about a 40% threshold that needs to be reached and 15%_ threshold that needs to be reached and 15% number of letters going and that and15% number of letters going and that witt— and 15% number of letters going and that will trigger it in the first instance _ that will trigger it in the first instance and that implies that yotr're — instance and that implies that you're only having another vote because — you're only having another vote because things have gotten so much worse _ because things have gotten so much worse and _ because things have gotten so much worse and as a way to show that, obviously given what we've been seeing _ obviously given what we've been seeing today, the number of letters coming _ seeing today, the number of letters coming in _ seeing today, the number of letters coming in being published and talk about— coming in being published and talk about these letters going into graham — about these letters going into graham brady every five minutes or so somebody said earlier, that suggests— so somebody said earlier, that suggests that threshold would be reached _ suggests that threshold would be reached and already has been reached and i reached and already has been reached and i think— reached and already has been reached and i think talk about graham brady going _ and i think talk about graham brady going to _ and i think talk about graham brady going to the prime minister and saying. — going to the prime minister and saying. as — going to the prime minister and saying, as he did to theresa may, lookr _ saying, as he did to theresa may, took. this— saying, as he did to theresa may, took. this is— saying, as he did to theresa may, look, this is how it's going to play out because i'm the only person who can actually — out because i'm the only person who can actually see the numbers and i'm telling _ can actually see the numbers and i'm telling you. _ can actually see the numbers and i'm telling you, this is what is going to happen. but, whether he has done that already, it seems like the prime — that already, it seems like the prime minister wanted to play out as the full_ prime minister wanted to play out as the full finale and not listen to that advice and so, that means we are looking — that advice and so, that means we are looking at next monday for new executives — are looking at next monday for new executives to be elected and potential rule change could be that day, people are talking about tuesday~ _ day, people are talking about tuesday. but we did think that there would _ tuesday. but we did think that there would be _ tuesday. but we did think that there would be another challenge into the autumn, _ would be another challenge into the autumn, if— would be another challenge into the autumn, if that. and i certainly were _ autumn, if that. and i certainly were looking at one happening for prominent bricks on the 24th of july. _ prominent bricks on the 24th of july. at— prominent bricks on the 24th of jul . �* . ., , prominent bricks on the 24th of jul . �* u, , ., prominent bricks on the 24th of july. a couple of resignations and the scottish _ july. a couple of resignations and the scottish tempe, _ july. a couple of resignations and the scottish tempe, former- july. a couple of resignations and i the scottish tempe, former scottish secretary and he is a treat envoy to new zealand and i think we have a tweet from him and this is james daly and he is also resigning. he's taken the opportunity to resign will put on some of the main lines for you and not surprisingly, the stick through this destabilise the government in a clear direction for continuing to deliver on the promises he made in the public and with the public voted for. tom, i think that makes 41 resignations in the last 2a hours. it really returns us to the point i was talking about, how on earth does he fill all of these positions measure for the audit is of already voted no confidence in him? i audit is of already voted no confidence in him?- audit is of already voted no confidence in him? i think a very limited known _ confidence in him? i think a very limited known to _ confidence in him? i think a very limited known to the _ confidence in him? i think a very limited known to the prime - confidence in him? i think a very . limited known to the prime minister that they— limited known to the prime minister that they cannot _ limited known to the prime minister that they cannot fill— limited known to the prime minister that they cannot fill the _ limited known to the prime minister that they cannot fill the rules - limited known to the prime minister that they cannot fill the rules and i that they cannot fill the rules and for those — that they cannot fill the rules and for those forming _ that they cannot fill the rules and for those forming the _ that they cannot fill the rules and i for those 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actually. half and telling them that he'sj gone, i think i may actually be easier— gone, i think i may actually be easier or— gone, i think i may actually be easier or better— gone, i think i may actually be easier or better for— gone, i think i may actually be easier or better for the - easier or better for the conservative _ easier or better for the conservative party- easier or better for the conservative party in l easier or better for the i conservative party in the easier or better for the _ conservative party in the short to medium-term _ conservative party in the short to medium—term if— conservative party in the short to medium—term if they— conservative party in the short to medium—term if they do - conservative party in the short to medium—term if they do go i conservative party in the short to i medium—term if they do go through the process— medium—term if they do go through the process of— medium—term if they do go through the process of having _ medium—term if they do go 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they don't want him _ that he doesn't want them any more. that they don't want him any - that he doesn't want them any more. that they don't want him any more i that they don't want him any more because otherwise, _ that they don't want him any more because otherwise, you will- that they don't want him any more because otherwise, you will have l because otherwise, you will have this almost— because otherwise, you will have this almost trumpet _ because otherwise, you will have this almost trumpet like - because otherwise, you will have | this almost trumpet like situation where _ this almost trumpet like situation where boris — this almost trumpet like situation where borisjohnson _ this almost trumpet like situation where borisjohnson still- this almost trumpet like situation where boris johnson still feels i this almost trumpet like situationl where boris johnson still feels like he's the _ where boris johnson still feels like he's the people's _ where boris johnson still feels like he's the people's prime _ where boris johnson still feels like he's the people's prime minister. where borisjohnson still feels like | he's the people's prime minister is still going — he's the people's prime minister is still going on— he's the people's prime minister is still going on and _ he's the people's prime minister is still going on and he's _ he's the people's prime minister is still going on and he's been- he's the people's prime minister is still going on and he's been slungi still going on and he's been slung by by— still going on and he's been slung by by ten — still going on and he's been slung by by ten upstarts, _ still going on and he's been slung by by ten upstarts, so _ still going on and he's been slung by by ten upstarts, so to - still going on and he's been slung by by ten upstarts, so to speak. i still going on and he's been slung| by by ten upstarts, so to speak. it may be _ by by ten upstarts, so to speak. it may be better— by by ten upstarts, so to speak. it may be better for _ by by ten upstarts, so to speak. it may be better for the _ by by ten upstarts, so to speak. it| may be better for the conservative party— may be better for the conservative party if— may be better for the conservative party if the — may be better for the conservative party if the slightly _ may be better for the conservative party if the slightly longer - may be better for the conservative party if the slightly longer game i may be better for the conservative party if the slightly longer game isj party if the slightly longer game is played _ party if the slightly longer game is played out — party if the slightly longer game is played out. the— party if the slightly longer game is -la ed out. ~ ., party if the slightly longer game is -la ed out. ~ .g , played out. the 6th ofjuly, we get a voted recesses _ played out. the 6th ofjuly, we get a voted recesses on _ played out. the 6th ofjuly, we get a voted recesses on the _ played out. the 6th ofjuly, we get a voted recesses on the 21st - played out. the 6th ofjuly, we get a voted recesses on the 21st if i a voted recesses on the 21st if he is out and then of course, the recess, chris if we were just to look very quickly at the runners and riders of any leadership contest, i know there's been some polling done but may be some of that has shifted, given what cabinet ministers and cabinet secretaries have done in the last few days. does rishi sunak go up? last few days. does rishi sunak go u - ? . .,, last few days. does rishi sunak go u? r . ., , last few days. does rishi sunak go up? almost certainly, it's one those difficult things _ up? almost certainly, it's one those difficult things in _ up? almost certainly, it's one those difficult things in weeks _ up? almost certainly, it's one those difficult things in weeks like - up? almost certainly, it's one those difficult things in weeks like this i difficult things in weeks like this we have almost certainly completely out of date by the time the fieldwork ends because things move quite quickly. i think the conservative party needs to approach this question backwards many to think about the prime minister that the country wants right now. what is asking for from a leader and then work backwards and try to think about the politician they've got the best fills that role. that's ultimately what they did with boris johnson in 2019. the countrywide to get brexit done and which of these leaders is going to be best suited to get it done. with the voters of the moment, focus groups, polling, what we are noticing is to a certain extent, peoplejust what we are noticing is to a certain extent, people just want everything to be a bit calmer. they want things to be a bit calmer. they want things to calm down a bit and they don't want constant scandals and politicians constantly obsessing in talking about these issues, they want politicians to be focusing on the cost of living crisis in the energy bills and food bills and everything else. i think with the conservative should probably be looking for if very conservative mp, it's what i would be thinking about this is going to be a person who can unite the conservative party but most importantly, can calm things down and have more stable leadership and action are the focus shifts back to this are the important issues rather than the day today scandals that are happening in westminster stop by when they don't want his resignation tickets going to quickly. resignation tickets going to cuickl . . ~ resignation tickets going to cuickl. . ~' , resignation tickets going to cuickl . ., ~ , . quickly. thank you very much. there are issues beyond _ quickly. thank you very much. there are issues beyond politics _ quickly. thank you very much. there are issues beyond politics that - quickly. thank you very much. there are issues beyond politics that are l are issues beyond politics that are important to the country at the top of the list in the state of the uk economy, it is the chaos in westminster and it's making it much more difficult and it shows, it has fallen below $1.19 and march of 2020, that is the time of the first uk covid—19lockdown. when we looked at the rising inflation, and between that with the price of the sterling, makes it harder for the that with the price of the sterling, makes it harderfor the uk recovery and among the g7 countries, the uk growth will be at the bottom next year behind canada, france and the united states as for inflation, it is at a high in energy prices are still going up. as the war in ukraine drags on. when we talk about the economy, he we look at inflation, you have to ask yourself what they can do, if they can start cutting taxes and they can start cutting taxes and they could start stoking inflation further. . ., , they could start stoking inflation further. w, ., they could start stoking inflation further. ., . , , further. the cost of living crisis basically is _ further. the cost of living crisis basically is a — further. the cost of living crisis basically is a social— further. the cost of living crisis basically is a social mobility - basically is a social mobility crisis in the front line of this are always the people on the front line of any economic crisis when it hits britain because this is still a country that no matter where you start, tends to be where you stay in life. in terms of what they have to do. i think they need to have a more structured approach to understanding what is driving core inflation in the uk and how all countries are seeing issues around food and energy often driven by the covid—19 supply chain and clearly, for those elements of inflation, this welfare system that can swing into help stabilise household finances of those right at the most sharp and of being affected by that but the broader inflation that the uk is facing a bit like the state, we have a very tight labour market and post—brexit, there's a big adjustment to migration systems in addition, that is also driving the regulatory system but the short—term businesses are saying that it needs more cost. i think what nadhim zahawi needs to do is understand which of these long—term structural drivers of inflation and that means dealing with them, versus one more shorter term, dealing with them, versus one more shorterterm, perhaps dealing with them, versus one more shorter term, perhaps more temporary inflation pressures using the welfare system to tackle those but the challenge right now tonight is that this is the government in paralysis. that this is the government in aral sis. , ., that this is the government in paralysis-— paralysis. trying to find trade invoice and _ paralysis. trying to find trade invoice and to _ paralysis. trying to find trade invoice and to some - paralysis. trying to find trade invoice and to some of - paralysis. trying to find trade invoice and to some of the i paralysis. trying to find trade | invoice and to some of the top paralysis. trying to find trade - invoice and to some of the top my head, we have no can you invoice or morocco envoy or new zealand envoy and those are the ones i can remember. the chief economist and uk talking a little bit more about sterling, does it matter that we are below $1 20? sterling, does it matter that we are below $120? in sterling, does it matter that we are below $1 20?— below $1 20? in terms of these s mbolic below $1 20? in terms of these symbolic part _ below $1 20? in terms of these symbolic part would _ below $1 20? in terms of these symbolic part would impact - symbolic part would impact confidence and we would expect the exchange _ confidence and we would expect the exchange rate to remain relatively volatile _ exchange rate to remain relatively volatile in — exchange rate to remain relatively volatile in times like this it is quite — volatile in times like this it is quite likely that the pound will recover in the coming days and some of these _ recover in the coming days and some of these because in terms of fundamental, we haven't seen much difference _ fundamental, we haven't seen much difference here.— difference here. which there are many moves _ difference here. which there are many moves that _ difference here. which there are many moves that nadhim - difference here. which there are | many moves that nadhim zahawi difference here. which there are - many moves that nadhim zahawi can pull for the cost of living crisis at the bottom of the pile and you can look at corporate rates, corporate tax rates and he can look at income tax rates and maybe even cutting vat which, what of those would appeal to you? we cutting vat which, what of those would appeal to you?— cutting vat which, what of those would appeal to you? we do not know what the chancellor _ would appeal to you? we do not know what the chancellor would _ would appeal to you? we do not know what the chancellor would have - would appeal to you? we do not know what the chancellor would have of - what the chancellor would have of these _ what the chancellor would have of these rules we don't actually know what room — these rules we don't actually know what room he has to play with but generally, — what room he has to play with but generally, there are two priorities, the short—term priorities to protect those _ the short—term priorities to protect those that— the short—term priorities to protect those that are affecting most, the chancellor has already done a big chunk— chancellor has already done a big chunk of— chancellor has already done a big chunk of that with the earlier increases _ chunk of that with the earlier increases in energy prices and we are expecting further increases and there _ are expecting further increases and there may— are expecting further increases and there may be scope for the new chancellor to try and protect those that will _ chancellor to try and protect those that will be affected again most against — that will be affected again most against that but at the medium long term, _ against that but at the medium long term, we _ against that but at the medium long term, we really need to fix our first _ term, we really need to fix our first momentum and the sense that we need productivity, we have investment levels that have not recovered yet from the and we have gone _ recovered yet from the and we have gone since — recovered yet from the and we have gone since the referendum and we need _ gone since the referendum and we need to— gone since the referendum and we need to get business investment up but again. _ need to get business investment up but again, we've had exports that have _ but again, we've had exports that have not— but again, we've had exports that have not recovered, either since the pandemic— have not recovered, either since the pandemic and like other economies and so, _ pandemic and like other economies and so, there is quite a lot there that the — and so, there is quite a lot there that the chancellor can try and encourage and support. remains to be seen how long — encourage and support. remains to be seen how long he _ encourage and support. remains to be seen how long he is _ encourage and support. remains to be seen how long he is chancellor. - seen how long he is chancellor. thank you very much indeed for staying with us and we want to bring you some breaking news. 41 becomes 42. the pps and the department of leveling up in housing and communities hasjust leveling up in housing and communities has just resigned following the sacking of michael gove and he said i'm very sorry to hear the michael gove has been fired by the prime minister as a tort number ten earlier, it should be the prime minister leaving office. i am resigning is pps. interested to see, but the way michael gove has been treated because let's be honest, michael gove has quite a following within the conservative party and some will feel very loyal to him. i cannot really criticise boris johnson _ cannot really criticise boris johnson for— cannot really criticise boris johnson for firing - cannot really criticise boris johnson for firing michael. cannot really criticise boris - johnson for firing michael gove he thinks _ johnson for firing michael gove he thinks that— johnson for firing michael gove he thinks that michael— johnson for firing michael gove he thinks that michael gove - johnson for firing michael gove he thinks that michael gove is - thinks that michael gove is essential— thinks that michael gove is essential to— thinks that michael gove is essential to this _ thinks that michael gove is essential to this whole - thinks that michael gove is - essential to this whole machinations against _ essential to this whole machinations against him — essential to this whole machinations against him if— essential to this whole machinations against him if he _ essential to this whole machinations against him if he is _ essential to this whole machinations against him if he is serious - against him if he is serious procuring _ against him if he is serious procuring on _ against him if he is serious procuring on his— against him if he is serious procuring on his prime - against him if he is serious - procuring on his prime minister, you cannot— procuring on his prime minister, you cannot blame — procuring on his prime minister, you cannot blame him _ procuring on his prime minister, you cannot blame him for— procuring on his prime minister, you cannot blame him for firing - procuring on his prime minister, you cannot blame him for firing michaell cannot blame him for firing michael gove _ cannot blame him for firing michael gove at _ cannot blame him for firing michael gove at the — cannot blame him for firing michael gove. at the point _ cannot blame him for firing michael gove. at the point is _ cannot blame him for firing michael gove. at the point is that _ cannot blame him for firing michael gove. at the point is that it - cannot blame him for firing michael gove. at the point is that it is - gove. at the point is that it is such— gove. at the point is that it is such a — gove. at the point is that it is such a short _ gove. at the point is that it is such a short lived _ gove. at the point is that it is such a short lived almost - gove. at the point is that it is - such a short lived almost irrelevant thing _ such a short lived almost irrelevant thing to— such a short lived almost irrelevant thing to do— such a short lived almost irrelevant thing to do and _ such a short lived almost irrelevant thing to do and not— such a short lived almost irrelevant thing to do and not surprised - such a short lived almost irrelevant thing to do and not surprised that i thing to do and not surprised that danny— thing to do and not surprised that danny kruger— thing to do and not surprised that danny kruger has _ thing to do and not surprised that danny kruger has responded - thing to do and not surprised that danny kruger has responded by. danny kruger has responded by guitting — danny kruger has responded by quitting himself— danny kruger has responded by quitting himself and _ danny kruger has responded by quitting himself and it's - danny kruger has responded by quitting himself and it's one - danny kruger has responded by quitting himself and it's one ofi danny kruger has responded by. quitting himself and it's one of the last writings — quitting himself and it's one of the last writings of— quitting himself and it's one of the last writings of the _ quitting himself and it's one of the last writings of the fish _ quitting himself and it's one of the last writings of the fish on - quitting himself and it's one of the last writings of the fish on land, i last writings of the fish on land, isn't _ last writings of the fish on land, isn't it — last writings of the fish on land, isn't it its— last writings of the fish on land, isn't it. it's almost _ last writings of the fish on land, isn't it. it's almost irrelevant. isn't it. it's almost irrelevant it's by— isn't it. it's almost irrelevant it's by the _ isn't it. it's almost irrelevant it's by the buying. _ isn't it. it's almost irrelevant it's by the buying. it's - isn't it. it's almost irrelevant it's by the buying. it's a - isn't it. it's almost irrelevantl it's by the buying. it's a short episode — it's by the buying. it's a short episode in— it's by the buying. it's a short episode in the _ it's by the buying. it's a short episode in the play. - it's by the buying. it's a short episode in the play. i- it's by the buying. it's a short. episode in the play. i don't think boris _ episode in the play. i don't think borisjohnson _ episode in the play. i don't think borisjohnson will— episode in the play. i don't think boris johnson will be _ episode in the play. i don't think boris johnson will be the - episode in the play. i don't think boris johnson will be the prime i boris johnson will be the prime minister— boris johnson will be the prime minister this— boris johnson will be the prime minister this time _ boris johnson will be the prime minister this time next - boris johnson will be the prime minister this time next week i boris johnson will be the prime i minister this time next week and the new prime _ minister this time next week and the new prime minister— minister this time next week and the new prime minister probably- minister this time next week and the new prime minister probably will i minister this time next week and the new prime minister probably will notj new prime minister probably will not be michaet— new prime minister probably will not be michael gove _ new prime minister probably will not be michael gove but _ new prime minister probably will not be michael gove but they— new prime minister probably will not be michael gove but they will- new prime minister probably will not be michael gove but they will find i be michael gove but they will find a role for— be michael gove but they will find a role for him — be michael gove but they will find a role for him and _ be michael gove but they will find a role for him and more _ be michael gove but they will find a role for him and more trauma - be michael gove but they will find a role for him and more trauma and i role for him and more trauma and really. _ role for him and more trauma and really. i— role for him and more trauma and really. i think— role for him and more trauma and really, i think normal— role for him and more trauma and really, i think normal people, i really, i think normal people, normat— really, i think normal people, normal voters _ really, i think normal people, normal voters are _ really, i think normal people, normal voters are really- really, i think normal people, | normal voters are really bored really, i think normal people, i normal voters are really bored of all this— normal voters are really bored of all this constant— normal voters are really bored of all this constant trauma - normal voters are really bored of all this constant trauma and i normal voters are really bored of all this constant trauma and the i all this constant trauma and the economy— all this constant trauma and the economy and _ all this constant trauma and the economy and these _ all this constant trauma and the economy and these are - all this constant trauma and the economy and these are real- all this constant trauma and the i economy and these are real issues and there's— economy and these are real issues and there's a — economy and these are real issues and there's a feeling _ economy and these are real issues and there's a feeling that - economy and these are real issues and there's a feeling that they're l and there's a feeling that they're 'ust and there's a feeling that they're just being — and there's a feeling that they're just being ignored _ and there's a feeling that they're just being ignored because - and there's a feeling that they're just being ignored because were| and there's a feeling that they're i just being ignored because were all having _ just being ignored because were all having a _ just being ignored because were all having a big — just being ignored because were all having a big psychodrama - just being ignored because were all having a big psychodrama instead l just being ignored because were all. having a big psychodrama instead and the michaet— having a big psychodrama instead and the michael gove _ having a big psychodrama instead and the michael gove aspect _ having a big psychodrama instead and the michael gove aspect is— having a big psychodrama instead and the michael gove aspect is a - having a big psychodrama instead and the michael gove aspect is a huge i the michael gove aspect is a huge part of— the michael gove aspect is a huge part of that — the michael gove aspect is a huge part of that-— part of that. what they want the government _ part of that. what they want the government to _ part of that. what they want the government to get _ part of that. what they want the government to get on _ part of that. what they want the government to get on with. i government to get on with. ordinarily these to be making headlines were we not talking about the future of the prime minister and does what he set the date of the liaison committee, two lines i will raise eyebrows. first on chris, he admitted an issue about chris pincher�*s behaviour was raised in addition to the issue, it was raised in 2019. chris pincher is still an mp and facing more and more allegations and still is not resigned. i allegations and still is not resigned-— allegations and still is not resiuned. , , , resigned. i still believe jacob rees mark acknowledged _ resigned. i still believe jacob rees mark acknowledged that _ resigned. i still believe jacob rees mark acknowledged that these i resigned. i still believe jacob rees mark acknowledged that these are j mark acknowledged that these are still acknowledged with much chance of chris— still acknowledged with much chance of chris pincher remaining as an mp. i do think— of chris pincher remaining as an mp. i do think that yes, there are a number— i do think that yes, there are a numberof— i do think that yes, there are a number of issues that have come out this whole fiasco it it's all focused _ this whole fiasco it it's all focused on the prime minister survival— focused on the prime minister survival or— focused on the prime minister survival or otherwise that they haven't — survival or otherwise that they haven't really been fully discussed and trying — haven't really been fully discussed and trying to get into them a bit and trying to get into them a bit and part— and trying to get into them a bit and part of that is whether or not the conservative party in particular, the whips office is really— particular, the whips office is really capable and is really the right _ really capable and is really the right body to be dealing with the past chair— right body to be dealing with the past chair of its own mps and of the peopte _ past chair of its own mps and of the people who, the effect in terms of their behaviour and because he was a whip and _ their behaviour and because he was a whip and to— their behaviour and because he was a whip and to put him in that position and also _ whip and to put him in that position and also hearing all of these allegations, knowing what would happen, — allegations, knowing what would happen, why did no one proactively io happen, why did no one proactively go out _ happen, why did no one proactively go out there and look, what do we have _ go out there and look, what do we have a _ go out there and look, what do we have a serial predator? he go out there and look, what do we have a serial predator?— have a serial predator? he did say he would come _ have a serial predator? he did say he would come out _ have a serial predator? he did say he would come out in _ have a serial predator? he did say he would come out in the - he would come out in the conversation, it took him five days from the complete nobody knew. another thing that was interesting was who asked him if they met the ex kgb spy with officials while he was foreign secretary in italy and he replied, yes, i probably did. i mean, this is a man very close to putin a former kgb spy and off the books, they're meeting him in italy. don't be extraordinary and normal circumstances.— don't be extraordinary and normal circumstances. edition so far we've come to be — circumstances. edition so far we've come to be almost complete i circumstances. edition so far we've come to be almost complete and i | circumstances. edition so far we've i come to be almost complete and i at that. come to be almost complete and i at that and _ come to be almost complete and i at that. and in that committee session, how much— that. and in that committee session, how much of— that. and in that committee session, how much of the reps borisjohnson seems _ how much of the reps borisjohnson seems to— how much of the reps borisjohnson seems to be, he is a missing yes, you've _ seems to be, he is a missing yes, you've got — seems to be, he is a missing yes, you've got me on that, you've got me on that— you've got me on that, you've got me on that and — you've got me on that, you've got me on that and it _ you've got me on that, you've got me on that and it didn't look like a man who — on that and it didn't look like a man who despite what he was saying knew that _ man who despite what he was saying knew that the game was up and was unable _ knew that the game was up and was unable to, _ knew that the game was up and was unable to, sort of blustar his way to the _ unable to, sort of blustar his way to the whole thing and then there are moments where borisjohnson realty— are moments where borisjohnson really did — are moments where borisjohnson really did try to push back so, it was so — really did try to push back so, it was so much to unpick about the whole _ was so much to unpick about the whole thing and we were all watching it knowing _ whole thing and we were all watching it knowing how much was going on on the outside _ it knowing how much was going on on the outside the jet cabinet ministers trying to go in and tell him to— ministers trying to go in and tell him to resign. a ministers trying to go in and tell him to resign-— ministers trying to go in and tell him to resign. a whiff of stature in paris and he _ him to resign. a whiff of stature in paris and he was _ him to resign. a whiff of stature in paris and he was trapped - him to resign. a whiff of stature in paris and he was trapped in i him to resign. a whiff of stature in paris and he was trapped in there l paris and he was trapped in there for two hours, all the scheming going on in the outside and there was nothing he could do about it. —— thatcher. was nothing he could do about it. -- thatcher. �* , , was nothing he could do about it. -- thatcher. . , , ., thatcher. and the sense that if ou're thatcher. and the sense that if you're the _ thatcher. and the sense that if you're the prime _ thatcher. and the sense that if you're the prime minister- thatcher. and the sense that if you're the prime minister have j thatcher. and the sense that if. you're the prime minister have to deal with literally jerked you're the prime minister have to deal with literallyjerked cabinet deal with literally jerked cabinet walking deal with literallyjerked cabinet walking out on you, ministers leaning the team, you literally do not have time to prepare for an important appearance in front of the liaison committee that you normally would do. so, we got will be so which is the prime ministerjust having to give the answer to that, not necessarily having at the time and advance to think through the issues that might have come up and again, it brings you back to the implications of the paralysis that we've gotten now which is the government is about running the country and for the secretary of state, 60, 70% essentially about making sure things stayed on track. it was not necessarily all about future policy, future strategy but all of that work isn't being done. and the governments flagship department right now, which is the department of leveling up, there are no ministers. but i believe you me, the submissions from civil servants and the decisions that need to be met wendy to be continuing to stream through but there is right now, as of tonight, nobody to take this decisions and we cannot go on like that. decisions and we cannot go on like that, ., , decisions and we cannot go on like that. ., , ., , , that. some of us to pick up the brief policy _ that. some of us to pick up the brief policy that has _ that. some of us to pick up the brief policy that has not - that. some of us to pick up the brief policy that has not been l brief policy that has not been announced that it takes time and that underlines the fact that the big decisions are being taken and postponed amid all the scales within government. we have a couple minutes left, let's have some rapid—fire answers from you all. first of all, leominster with you, catherine, answers from you all. first of all, leominsterwith you, catherine, how long does borisjohnson survive? i just don't know. it seems like next week, _ just don't know. it seems like next week, monday, tuesday, wednesday next week _ week, monday, tuesday, wednesday next week. but week, monday, tuesday, wednesday next week. �* ., , week, monday, tuesday, wednesday next week._ yes, i next week. but he does go? yes, because his _ next week. but he does go? yes, because his party _ next week. but he does go? yes, because his party must _ next week. but he does go? yes, because his party must surely i next week. but he does go? yes, | because his party must surely now .et because his party must surely now get rid _ because his party must surely now get rid of— because his party must surely now get rid of him. because his party must surely now get rid of him-— because his party must surely now aet rid of him. ., ., ,, get rid of him. tom, what you think? yes, i get rid of him. tom, what you think? yes. i completely _ get rid of him. tom, what you think? yes, i completely agree. _ get rid of him. tom, what you think? yes, i completely agree. he - get rid of him. tom, what you think? yes, i completely agree. he may- get rid of him. tom, what you think? | yes, i completely agree. he may keep up yes, i completely agree. he may keep up slightly— yes, i completely agree. he may keep up slightly mad — yes, i completely agree. he may keep up slightly mad with _ yes, i completely agree. he may keep up slightly mad with this _ yes, i completely agree. he may keep up slightly mad with this whole - up slightly mad with this whole without — up slightly mad with this whole without -- _ up slightly mad with this whole without —— hold _ up slightly mad with this whole without —— hold out, _ up slightly mad with this whole without —— hold out, the - up slightly mad with this whole without —— hold out, the 1922. without —— hold out, the 1922 committee _ without —— hold out, the 1922 committee gets _ without —— hold out, the 1922 committee gets changed i without —— hold out, the 1922 committee gets changed by. without —— hold out, the 1922. committee gets changed by its without —— hold out, the 1922- committee gets changed by its new on monday— committee gets changed by its new on monday or— committee gets changed by its new on monday or tuesday _ committee gets changed by its new on monday or tuesday. itriti�*iith _ committee gets changed by its new on monday or tuesday.— monday or tuesday. with what about ou, ou monday or tuesday. with what about you. you think— monday or tuesday. with what about you. you think is _ monday or tuesday. with what about you, you think is leaving _ monday or tuesday. with what about you, you think is leaving this - monday or tuesday. with what about you, you think is leaving this week i you, you think is leaving this week or next? it you, you think is leaving this week or next? ., ., you, you think is leaving this week or next? ., ,, ., " or next? it will take a 1922 rule chanae or next? it will take a 1922 rule change and _ or next? it will take a 1922 rule change and then _ or next? it will take a 1922 rule change and then a _ or next? it will take a 1922 rule change and then a confidence l or next? it will take a 1922 rule i change and then a confidence vote that he loses and even then, i don't think we could be totally certain that he will accept that because he is constantly referring to his mandate from the british people. so the problem is, we don't really know, this is someone who's got elected on his willingness to often break rules and shake things up, which is why i said rather the beginning of this, we could be heading towards a constitutional crisis at the very worst moment for our country. crisis at the very worst moment for our country-— our country. that's a very quick moment of— our country. that's a very quick moment of the _ our country. that's a very quick moment of the runners, i our country. that's a very quick moment of the runners, the i our country. that's a very quick i moment of the runners, the likely contenders and i picked up the top five. there is tom at the bottom left and chris pincher, —— nadhim zahawi. -- nadhim zahawi. the one was the best ideas not _ -- nadhim zahawi. the one was the best ideas not just _ -- nadhim zahawi. the one was the best ideas not just what _ -- nadhim zahawi. the one was the best ideas not just what to - -- nadhim zahawi. the one was the best ideas not just what to do i -- nadhim zahawi. the one was the best ideas not just what to do but i best ideas notjust what to do but how to deliver it stop buy we're going to get a lot of mps. what about you, do you think of the top of the pilot the moment? the answers that i 'ust of the pilot the moment? the answers that ijust do — of the pilot the moment? the answers that i just do not _ of the pilot the moment? the answers that ijust do not know— of the pilot the moment? the answers that i just do not know the _ of the pilot the moment? the answers that ijust do not know the answer- that ijust do not know the answer and may— that ijust do not know the answer and may be — that ijust do not know the answer and may be rishi _ that ijust do not know the answer and may be rishi sunak— that ijust do not know the answer and may be rishi sunak but that l that ijust do not know the answer| and may be rishi sunak but that is ”p and may be rishi sunak but that is up to— and may be rishi sunak but that is up to him — and may be rishi sunak but that is up to him and _ and may be rishi sunak but that is up to him and how— and may be rishi sunak but that is up to him and how much _ and may be rishi sunak but that is up to him and how much he - and may be rishi sunak but that is up to him and how much he reallyl up to him and how much he really wants— up to him and how much he really wants to, — up to him and how much he really wants to, he _ up to him and how much he really wants to, he may— up to him and how much he really wants to, he may not _ up to him and how much he really wants to, he may not even - up to him and how much he really wants to, he may not even run. i up to him and how much he really. wants to, he may not even run. but i think— wants to, he may not even run. but i think if— wants to, he may not even run. but i think if he — wants to, he may not even run. but i think if he runs, — wants to, he may not even run. but i think if he runs, he _ wants to, he may not even run. but i think if he runs, he might— wants to, he may not even run. but i think if he runs, he might win - wants to, he may not even run. but i think if he runs, he might win stop. think if he runs, he might win stop by 30 seconds _ think if he runs, he might win stop by 30 seconds. i'm“ _ think if he runs, he might win stop by 30 seconds-— think if he runs, he might win stop by 30 seconds. i'm going to decline as well. . by 30 seconds. i'm going to decline as well- - we _ by 30 seconds. i'm going to decline as well. . we will— by 30 seconds. i'm going to decline as well. . we will leave _ by 30 seconds. i'm going to decline as well. . we will leave it _ by 30 seconds. i'm going to decline as well. . we will leave it there i by 30 seconds. i'm going to decline as well. . we will leave it there we | as well. . we will leave it there we are out of— as well. . we will leave it there we are out of time. _ as well. . we will leave it there we are out of time. we'll— as well. . we will leave it there we are out of time. we'll be _ as well. . we will leave it there we are out of time. we'll be back i as well. . we will leave it there we are out of time. we'll be back at i are out of time. we'll be back at the same time tomorrow. good night. the weather in the last couple of days has been relatively fresh, but that is about to change, and we're increasingly confident that a heatwave is coming, and it should affect at least the southern half of the uk. further north, it's going to be a little bit cooler. now, this is what the recent satellite picture has been showing. a fair amount of cloud streaming in off the north atlantic, so keeping things relatively cool here, and it's to the north of this area of high pressure. now, over the next few days, with the jet stream way to the north of us, this very settled area of weather will spread across western parts of europe and will also allow the heat to build. now, let's have a look at the weather in the short term, so here's thursday, and quite a warm start. 16 in london, 12 in glasgow. a bit of cloud in the morning, but come the afternoon those clouds will fade, and will give way to plenty of sunshine. i think a beautiful day along the north sea coast, from edinburgh through newcastle, norwich, and along the south coast too. and pleasantly warm — typical temperatures in the low 20s. so that was thursday. this is friday. the possibility of an atlantic breeze bringing some showers to western parts of scotland, but the rest of the country should have a fine if not beautiful day, and already turning quite hot in the south—east, temperatures up to 28 degrees celsius. and we're very confident that the weekend is going to be very warm and sunny widely across the uk with this area of high pressure that i showed you earlier on building in, nosing in across the uk. but notice scotland, the north—west, always closer to thicker cloud and some outbreaks of rain, so it never turns hot here — in fact in glasgow, say 18 degrees — but a large part of england already experiencing temperatures in the mid to high 20s on saturday. and that process is going to continue into sunday with the high pressure establishing itself across the british isles. that means light winds, sunny skies, and those temperatures will build, so i think we could be approaching 30 degrees by the time we get to sunday. so certainly the onset of that heatwave will be around saturday, sunday time. and then next week the jet stream should be to the north of us, very close to scotland, but that will allow a very warm atmosphere to lift in from the south and spread notjust across the uk but many parts of western europe, and again, a lot of countries will be experiencing that heat, in some instances perhaps even extreme heat, for example in france. but here in the uk, i think on monday widely high 20s to 30 degrees across central and southern england, mid 20s for northern england and southern scotland, with light winds and sunny skies. now, notice the possibility of a weather front encroaching here in the north—west. could be here, could be further out to sea, a little uncertain. but the certainty is that further south will be experiencing that heat. and notjust hot weather during the day, but remember the nights are going to be oppressive, and that's what many of us are not looking forward to. 18 or 20 degrees. so how certain are we about this, about this heatwave next week? well, we're not sure just how hot exactly it'll get, the number, the value of the temperature. also not certain how extensive that heat will be, in other words how far north it'll travel, or the duration. but we are sure that there will be hot weather and it will most likely affect the southern half of the uk. in fact, if you look at london, we've got a whole week of temperatures of 30 degrees or more. very warm weather for cardiff, but further north, you're more likely to hang onto that pleasant weather, so in fact some of us may want to head north to avoid the heat. that's it. tonight at 10:00: we're live in downing street, where borisjohnson is defying a chorus of calls from colleagues for him to resign. as he left for the commons earlier today the prime minister was aware that dozens of ministers and aides were heading for the exit. so far there have been at least 43 resignations — it's a record number for one day — but the prime minister reponded with defiance to critics on his own side. at westminster tonight, the prime minister is determined to hang on and is still hiring and firing. does the prime minister think there are any circumstances

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