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bore da 3 croeso. good morning. welcome to our coverage of a very special day for wales as charles iii, the man who was prince of wales for more than 60 years, returns for the first time as king. we have to go back to 1958 when queen elizabeth announced that her eldest son, aged just nine, would become prince of wales and as she became the longest serving british monarch in history, he is the longest serving prince of wales. wales, in his own words, "the country whose title i've been so greatly privileged to bear during so much of my life and duty." we had seen him visit scotland and northern ireland since the death of the queen and today marks the final visit for king charles on his tour of the nations of the united kingdom. it will be a momentous moment for the nation when he arrives in cardiff and takes his first steps on welsh soil as king. let me tell you what is going to happen today. king charles will arrive at around 11:10 by helicopter, together with the queen consort. they will be escorted directly to llandaff cathedral for a service of prayer and reflection. after the service, the royal party will proceed to cardiff bay where at the senedd, the welsh parliament, the first minister will propose a motion of condolence on behalf of the people of wales. their visit to the welsh capital finishes at cardiff castle with a private audience with the first minister and llywydd, we also expect the biggest crowds there. llywydd is the presiding officer, followed by a reception with representatives from royal patronages and faith communities. the king'sjourney will take him to some of the oldest locations in the city as well as one of the newest — the seat of power of the devolved nation at the senedd. at llandaff, a city within a city, crowds have already gathered on the green, not only to pay their respects to her majesty the queen but also to get their first glimpse of king charles. and in llandaff cathedral invited guests are taking their seats for a service of prayer and reflection. to witness the occasion is gethinjones. bore da from llandaff cathedral, looking its very best due to the morning sunshine and the beautiful blue skies. i am very familiar with this area, i got to stay with my mam and dad last night and i made my way here on foot which is probably the best way due to the crowds gathering in anticipation for seeing the king and paying their respects to her majesty queen elizabeth. shortly the kick will be making his way to the service. —— shortly the king. this has been the scene of many a royal visit in the past — including his majesty king george v and queen mary over a century ago in 1912. queen elizabeth and prince philip visited on numerous occasions, including celebrations marking her majesty's silver and diamond jubilees. today is a very different. a more sombre occasion. an atmosphere of quiet reflection as people look forward to that service of remembrance and prayer in about half an hour. the last time the king was here was as the prince of wales in 2018 in a service to mark the 70th anniversary of the nhs. the following year, 2019, he celebrated 50 years as prince of wales with a tour of wales which started right here at llandaff cathedral. he will make its way to the cathedral, where that will be invited guests representing politics, culture and religion from all over wales, gathered to pay their respects to her majesty the queen. and inside to guide us through proceedings is gareth lewis. thank you. this is a cathedral that stops you in your tracks as soon you step inside. this is the magnificent majestus, christ in majesty, by jacob epstein. apps not something you would expect to see in a cathedral dating from the sixth century. it was installed in 1957, a symbol of the cathedral rising from the ashes of war after it was bombed by the luftwaffe. this place has a history of rising from the ashes, the organ dates from 2010, the old one damaged beyond repair into thousand and seven when the cathedral was struck by lightning. it is big, almost 5000 pipes and there is a strong royal link. his majesty the king was patron of the £i.5 majesty the king was patron of the £1.5 million fundraising campaign to gareth lewis there for us at llandaff cathedral. beautiful. i should say that if you would like to follow today's events without commentary then that option is available on the red button. so, as we wait for the new king to arrive let's take a look back at her majesty queen elizabeth ii's long relationship with the people and places in wales. she always showed a concern for every single person who lives in the uk, and being welsh is an important part of that. she was always one to make the people she met feel at ease. you knew in the future these moments would become very, very— important. queen elizabeth's long relationship with wales had its roots in her early childhood. a miniature welsh cottage, y bwthyn bach, was gifted to the six—year—old princess on behalf of the children of wales. it has since been loved by generations of royals. look in there first. often under the original owner's watchful eye. this early bond with wales grew steadily. in 1916, a 20—year—old princess elizabeth came to the national eisteddfod in mountain ash to be honoured with her own bardic name. elizabeth windsor. but her first official tour of wales as queen came later, two years after her coronation. it was a huge event, and the first chance for the welsh people to show their affection for the young monarch. she, in turn, found plenty which chimed with her own passions, not least her love of horses. the queen and the duke - made their way first to see the welsh mountain ponies being judged. and one of them, called - 0wain glyn dwr, was to show an unsuitable appetite i for the royal carnations. in subsequent years she visited wales frequently, through times of celebration and of grief. in 1966 tragedy struck. in aberfan, a coal heap collapsed onto a village school, killing 116 children. the queen, herself the mother of young children, visited the village and was visibly shocked. i think it is a difficult thing that she did, having children herself, of course, being a mother herself, she could empathise with people there. it was a wonderful thing to come to the village. people needed something at that time because it was such a terrible thing that had happened. the queen vowed to return to aberfan, a promise she fulfilled on several occasions to share in the community's rebuilding and remembrance. the lives of those who serve in the welsh regiments and their families were always close to the queen's heart. in 1995 simon mainwaring was one of a group of welch fusiliers taken hostage in bosnia. his wife sandra had recently given birth. it was just total dread and fear, got a tiny baby, and i just thought he would never know who his dad was. on a visit to the regiment�*s barracks near haverfordwest, the queen requested a private meeting with sandra and the wives of the hostages. she was a genuine mum, and she could understand that i was a mum and how i must be feeling. in fact, she did say she was leaving, and she looked back and she said, "we will try our best to help your men." thankfully the hostages were released a few days later. the queen asked to meet them. she wanted to see them and see how they work and i remember her saying to me, "oh my, hasn't the baby grown." —— and see how they were. throughout her long reign her majesty was a regular visitor to wales, supporting her charities and leading national events like the spectacular gala opening of the wales millennium centre. her last visit at the age of 95 was to open the latest session of the welsh parliament. it is a pleasure to be with you today, and i congratulate you on your recent election. over the years it is clear that her majesty's commitment to wales and interest in its people never waned. there is something incredibly brilliant about meeting her majesty, and the days i met her, these are the ones that shine. in all the times i - met her she was kind of warm and welcoming, _ every single time she made you feel that you were really important. she always carried out her duties as long as she was able to do it. and that, i think, is a lesson to us all. it's well known that her majesty the queen has a deep underlying faith. in fact, she swore an oath to be the defender of the faith, something she took very seriously. joining me is dr barry morgan, former archbishop of wales. great to see you this morning. some fabulous footage of the queen's relationship with wales. how do you assess that over a lifetime? it is assess that over a lifetime? it is uuite assess that over a lifetime? it is quite obvious — assess that over a lifetime? it is quite obvious she _ assess that over a lifetime? it 3 quite obvious she was very assess that over a lifetime? it 1 quite obvious she was very fond of wales, came quite often, very touching but she went back to aberfan several times because that really touched a chord with her, i think. it was not a one—off visits, she came back again and again and again, and people in aberfan will tell you she took an interest in what was going on. i tell you she took an interest in what was going on.— tell you she took an interest in what was going on. i was in aberfan last week broadcasting _ what was going on. i was in aberfan last week broadcasting at _ what was going on. i was in aberfan last week broadcasting at the - last week broadcasting at the memorial garden, the site of the junior school, memorial garden, the site of the juniorschool, it memorial garden, the site of the junior school, it is quite a interesting relationship she struck? i suppose as a mother herself she understood something about the pain of what those parents must have been going through, and therefore she really empathised and sympathised and came back again and again to that village. and of course other parts of wales too, she came to llandaff cathedral several times when i was there, she came to open the parliament several times and always seemed very glad to be in wales. ., ., , ., , . wales. you would be in that select u-rou wales. you would be in that select a-rou of wales. you would be in that select grow» of clergymen _ wales. you would be in that select group of clergymen who _ wales. you would be in that select group of clergymen who would - wales. you would be in that select l group of clergymen who would have had to preach to the queen, you would have met her numerous times, what was that like? i’m would have met her numerous times, what was that like?— what was that like? i'm not sure you would call it — what was that like? i'm not sure you would call it select, _ what was that like? i'm not sure you would call it select, it _ what was that like? i'm not sure you would call it select, it is _ would call it select, it is nerve—racking. i think i had to preach in front of her three or four times and of course there were preparations for when she would eventually die, for this service today. i did not think i would still be in office when she died, to be honest, so i am glad i am not the one who has to preach at the memorial service today but one of my successors. she always puts you at ease about it. i remember preaching in front of her at sandringham, the drill was that you go for the weekend and i think it is unusual for the archbishop of wales to go because normally it is just restricted to bishops of the church of england, she forgot the church of wales was established and i was invited. you had to preach, and i remember i gave the blessing in welsh, not realising that in fact the choir sang the amen, but they came in beautifully at the queen was highly amused and said to me, you must have told you would give the blessing in welsh and i said, actually, i didn't, blessing in welsh and i said, actually, ididn�*t, ijust blessing in welsh and i said, actually, i didn't, ijust gave the blessing spontaneously, as i do. she said they were perfect. i said, yes, i could take them back to llandaff, some parish choirs still do not have it, they do not come in on time when i give the blessing in welsh. it it, they do not come in on time when i give the blessing in welsh.- i give the blessing in welsh. it was very good- — i give the blessing in welsh. it was very good- we _ i give the blessing in welsh. it was very good. we heard _ i give the blessing in welsh. it was very good. we heard from - i give the blessing in welsh. it was very good. we heard from gareth i very good. we heard from gareth running through the cathedral, your old stomping ground. how important is to have this service? to reflect and to remember the queen, for wales and to remember the queen, for wales and for the cathedral? very important because she has been to edinburgh, she has been to belfast... the king, i mean, the king has been to belfast and he has been to edinburgh and now he is coming to wales, and it is a service of reflection and prayer in llandaff cathedral. it's different from the other places because not only is it an ecumenical service but it is an interfaith service in the sense that the secretary general of the muslim council for wales is offering a prayer, as indeed is somebody from the jewish faith and the prayer, as indeed is somebody from thejewish faith and the chair of thejewish faith and the chair of the interfaith council for wales and it is also totally bilingual, the hymns, there is one him in welsh, one in english and referred here, there is a third verse in welsh, they are well—known hymns, one by rhys nicholas, which talks about the importance ofjesus christ and the queen herself of course talked about the importance of the christian faith for her personally, and how she prayed. and she saw herself as well as having a vocation. we tend to think that only clergy have vocations but she saw herself as having a vocation to this role that she had been anointed to and took it very seriously. i remember her telling me once that she saw it as a lifelong thing, unless of course she became totally incapacitated by dementia or motor neurone disease she would carry on to the end, as indeed she did.— indeed she did. interesting stuff. we will get _ indeed she did. interesting stuff. we will get some _ indeed she did. interesting stuff. we will get some more _ indeed she did. interesting stuff. we will get some more thoughts| indeed she did. interesting stuff. - we will get some more thoughts from you in a bit, barry morgan, thank you in a bit, barry morgan, thank you very much indeed for now. well, let's go back to cardiff and to llandaff cathedral, where most of the congregation are now in their seats. amongst the guests expected today is liz truss who, just last week, was appointed prime minister by the queen. his majesty the king and his queen consort camilla are currently making their way to wales in a helicopter. they are due to land at around 20 minutes' time. 0ur colleague gareth lewis is inside the cathedral and has details of what we can expect from today's service. some of those guests were arriving very early, been here the best part of two hours already, but as you said it is really filling up now. that is adam price nearest the camera, the leader of plaid cymru, jane dodge, leader of the welsh liberal democrats next to him and then andrew rt davies, leader of the welsh tories in the senedd, there is party unity, that is the llywydd, a plaid cymru senedd member, two andrew rt davies's right. as gethin said, you have politicians, you have members of the armed services. the emergency services, farming unions, businesses, and right at the back on the left you can see the cadets and various younger people have been invited especially along for the occasion today. they reckon about 440 people in all is the capacity and they come i can tell you now, have been all smiles since they got here about an hour or so ago. the first thing you'll notice at home today when the service gets under way, particularly if you're watching outside of wales is it will be bilingual, so in english and in welsh, and a lot of the people speaking or officiating today are either fluent both languages, or have welsh as their first language. they have just spotted themselves! and talking of language, that is a william morgan bible from 1588. william morgan bible from 1588. william morgan bible from 1588. william morgan translated the first complete bible, so old testament and new testament into welsh from greek and hebrew. that one is on loan from the national library in aberystwyth and will be carried down the aisle at the start of the ceremony by two youngsters from the cathedral sunday school alice and toby. the print quality is absolutely outstanding for a book of that age. also today the harpist considered wales's national instrument and we have two welsh harpists playing today, that is the current royal harpist alice hughes from powys and alongside her catrin finch, one of her predecessors. you can see the detail on the harp, it is decorated with welsh motifs, the prince of wales's feathers at the top and also leeks and daffodils, it is synonymous with wales after the prince of wales reinstated the role for the first time in more than 120 years that there had been a royal harpist. in terms of who will address the congregation today, i will have a reading in welsh from the first book of kings from wales's first minister mark drakeford, it is the granting of wisdom from god to king solomon during a dream, reading i suppose about what it makes to be a good leader and also hear from the archbishop of wales the most reverend andrewjohn who will give the address and the blessing, quite a day for him, he's been archbishop not quite for a year yet. players will be led by the archbishop of llandaff, and there will be multi—faith prayer is, and prayers from across the denominations. —— prayers will be led by the archbishop of llandaff. at the end both national anthems will be sung. the welsh national anthem, land of my fathers, then god save the king. and as the politicians wait to come at the end of the service king charles and the queen consort camilla will sign the visitors' book which has a very special and relatively recent royal history of its own. and there is the book in front of the triptychs which we have seen already. the two youngsters, by the way, will be carrying the bible a little later on. that book part of the history, part of the unique fabric of this cathedral, as we will find out now, as we look back at some of the historic royal visits to llandaff cathedral. llandaff cathedral in cardiff has been the focal point of many a royal visit to the welsh capital. queen elizabeth ii had a long—standing connection to the cathedral. her first visit to llandaff was to attend the official reopening in 1960. the building had been almost destroyed by a german bomb during the cardiff blitz in the second world war. 20 years later the cathedral was reborn with a new statue of christ by sculptor jacob epstein at its heart. arthur impey was a steward on the day. it was a very big occasion. all the stops were pulled out, all the high and mighty of the land were invited to it. she looks now at the great epstein statue that soars over the nave. the queen arrived, looking up at the epstein statue. i wouldn't like to say what her reaction was to it. i was a very young steward, onlyjust over 20, so i ended up, in fact, guarding a far distant door and i was rather annoyed because i really didn't see anything of the actual service. but then the queen left the cathedral and came to my door, so i had quite a close—up view, in the end, of the queen. her majesty visited llandaff on three further occasions. the most spectacular during her silverjubilee. she returned again in 2012 to mark 60 years of her reign. my role was to greet her and to welcome her, and then to preach, which was an unnerving kind of experience. she just remarked about how lovely the cathedral was, and how glad she was be back. and the queen is not the only royal to have made an impression at llandaff over the years. in 1991 prince william visited the cathedral with his parents to make his first public appearance. to great interest of all the press they discovered that _ prince william is left—handed. nobody had noticed this before, as far as the general public- was concerned. days like these live long in the memory, and none more so than when queen elizabeth was present. the christian faith was important in her personal life, and she took her— duty as queen, therefore, very seriously. to have her majesty marking an occasion with a royal- visit, they are important events in the life of the nation. - she was held in great affection by the people in wales, and you could see that when on royal visits people would turn out in their thousands just to greet her and to wave to her. wonderful watching some of those memories of her majesty visiting llandaff and two people watching with such enjoyment and interest were former welsh guardsman, author, broadcaster simon weston and brilliant director of music at the royal welsh college of music & drama tim rhys—evans. nice to see you both. tim rhys-evans. nice to see you both. �* ., ., ., tim rhys-evans. nice to see you both. �* ., ., both. before i ask you about your memories — both. before i ask you about your memories of _ both. before i ask you about your memories of meeting _ both. before i ask you about your memories of meeting her- both. before i ask you about your i memories of meeting her majesty, both. before i ask you about your - memories of meeting her majesty, may be a thought on how you are feeling right now. be a thought on how you are feeling riaht now. , .. ., right now. outside the cathedral amonust right now. outside the cathedral amongst the _ right now. outside the cathedral amongst the crowds _ right now. outside the cathedral amongst the crowds waiting - right now. outside the cathedral amongst the crowds waiting forl right now. outside the cathedral i amongst the crowds waiting for the new king. i amongst the crowds waiting for the newkinu. , , new king. i suppose it is bittersweet _ new king. i suppose it is bittersweet from - new king. i suppose it is bittersweet from my - new king. i suppose it is - bittersweet from my perspective because her majesty has gone, obviously, and now we have the king, so it is a happy moment to have him here but what has led up to it is a sad thing but it is an eventuality. but i feel very honoured and proud just to be here. i but i feel very honoured and proud just to be here.— just to be here. i think that's a feelin: just to be here. i think that's a feeling many _ just to be here. i think that's a feeling many people _ just to be here. i think that's a feeling many people have - just to be here. i think that's a feeling many people have got| just to be here. i think that's a l feeling many people have got in just to be here. i think that's a - feeling many people have got in the crowd, isn't it?— crowd, isn't it? absolutely wonderful— crowd, isn't it? absolutely wonderful to _ crowd, isn't it? absolutely wonderful to hear - crowd, isn't it? absolutely wonderful to hear the - crowd, isn't it? absolutely i wonderful to hear the crowd, crowd, isn't it? absolutely - wonderful to hear the crowd, see so many— wonderful to hear the crowd, see so many people turning up and cardiff 'ust many people turning up and cardiff just looking beautiful with cloudless skies this morning. it is a great _ cloudless skies this morning. it is a great honour to be here. the weather has — a great honour to be here. tie: weather has been a great honour to be here. tte: weather has been kind a great honour to be here. "tte: weather has been kind for a great honour to be here. tte: weather has been kind for the most part throughout the last week. simon, you would have met her majesty on numerous occasions, as well as members of the royal family. your lasting memory of the queen? mr; your lasting memory of the queen? tj�*i lasting your lasting memory of the queen? ti lasting memory was your lasting memory of the queen? ti1 lasting memory was when she presented with my c of e but what she said was short little clips but powerful, she had the ability to say the right thing at the right time and she always had a twinkle in her eye and a smile and you would always get that feeling of she wanted to have a bit of fun and get the humour out. , , ., ., out. interesting you mention the sense of humour— out. interesting you mention the sense of humour because - out. interesting you mention the sense of humour because it - out. interesting you mention the sense of humour because it is i out. interesting you mention the | sense of humour because it is the smile that we remember. just last week, actually, when she met the incoming prime minister liz truss who has just arrived incoming prime minister liz truss who hasjust arrived here incoming prime minister liz truss who has just arrived here at llandaff cathedral this morning, of course, the queen working up until the very end like she felt like she needed to do. and maybe this is a moment in time right now because you have the king who was here for the first time in his new role, the prime minister visiting wales in her new role for the first time, it is a real historic moment, isn't it? it is hugely significant and former prince of wales, now king, just being here, and just knowing that he's always been such an active prince of wales, for the country to welcome him as king i think is a special day. but welcome him as king i think is a special day-— special day. but as simon says, obviously brought _ special day. but as simon says, obviously brought about i special day. but as simon says, | obviously brought about through terrific _ obviously brought about through terrific sadness. you obviously brought about through terrific sadness.— obviously brought about through terrific sadness. you know first the work that king _ terrific sadness. you know first the work that king charles _ terrific sadness. you know first the work that king charles has - terrific sadness. you know first the work that king charles has done, l terrific sadness. you know first the | work that king charles has done, he works closely with you, he is president of the college now, isn't he? what significance does that royal patronage have? it he? what significance does that royal patronage have?— he? what significance does that royal patronage have? it makes an enormous difference _ royal patronage have? it makes an enormous difference to _ royal patronage have? it makes an enormous difference to us. i royal patronage have? it makes an enormous difference to us. as i royal patronage have? it makes an enormous difference to us. as we | enormous difference to us. as we have _ enormous difference to us. as we have seen— enormous difference to us. as we have seen in— enormous difference to us. as we have seen in so many of his speeches which _ have seen in so many of his speeches which have _ have seen in so many of his speeches which have quoted shakespeare, he is genuinely— which have quoted shakespeare, he is genuinely interested in culture and the arts _ genuinely interested in culture and the arts. and he is a very active president _ the arts. and he is a very active president. he wants to attend performances, and alsojust really meaningfully saying to us, what can i do meaningfully saying to us, what can i do for— meaningfully saying to us, what can i do for you? meaningfully saying to us, what can i do for you?— meaningfully saying to us, what can i do for you?- absolutely. it | i do for you? really? absolutely. it is not 'ust i do for you? really? absolutely. it is notjust a — i do for you? really? absolutely. it is notjust a name _ i do for you? really? absolutely. it is notjust a name on _ i do for you? really? absolutely. it is notjust a name on a _ i do for you? really? absolutely. it is notjust a name on a website i i do for you? really? absolutely. it is notjust a name on a website or i is notjust a name on a website or on some — is notjust a name on a website or on some headed notepaper. it is very meaningful, — on some headed notepaper. it is very meaningful, which opens up doors throughout the world to raising the profile _ throughout the world to raising the profile of— throughout the world to raising the profile of the college. he has a big new profile of the college. he has a big newioh, _ profile of the college. he has a big newioh, of— profile of the college. he has a big newjob, of course, so whether he will he _ newjob, of course, so whether he will be able — newjob, of course, so whether he will be able to continue, but he's been _ will be able to continue, but he's been a _ will be able to continue, but he's been a fantastic president. co—vice he sounds very hands—on, which will serve him well in his new role, and following his mother's footsteps? he role, and following his mother's footsteps?— role, and following his mother's footstes? , , ., , ., footsteps? he has big shoes to fill, but havin: footsteps? he has big shoes to fill, but having met _ footsteps? he has big shoes to fill, but having met him _ footsteps? he has big shoes to fill, but having met him over— footsteps? he has big shoes to fill, but having met him over to - footsteps? he has big shoes to fill, but having met him over to get i footsteps? he has big shoes to fill, but having met him over to get on | but having met him over to get on numerous occasions he has more than ably suited, he has been building up to this over all his life, he has his mother's sense of humour, sincerity and work ethic so i do not think there will be any difficult transition into the role he is taking on. we can't change what has happened is that we have to look to the future. it is good to pay reverence to the past but this is the future now and it is why he is here, to announce to wales that he is the kick. to here, to announce to wales that he is the kick-— here, to announce to wales that he is the kick. ., 1 ., , ., ., is the kick. to wales and the world. you see his — is the kick. to wales and the world. you see his role _ is the kick. to wales and the world. you see his role as _ is the kick. to wales and the world. you see his role as a _ is the kick. to wales and the world. you see his role as a global - you see his role as a global service, the whole world has been affected. == service, the whole world has been affected. ., ., ., . ., 1 ., , affected. -- to announce to wales that he is the _ affected. -- to announce to wales that he is the king. _ affected. -- to announce to wales that he is the king. whatever i affected. -- to announce to wales that he is the king. whatever your opinion of the royal family, most of the people that have any involvement with it are very fond of them and have a great deal of reverence and respect for them because they are unifying feature most diverse, that should be accepted and respected. king charles, because of his love of culture, history and people, and religions, whatever religion, he cares about so many things and so many people, he is a unifying factor and people should accept that and let it happen nationally and he will become the wonderful monarch he can become. ., , ., ., ., become the wonderful monarch he can become. ., ., ., ., become. people from all walks of life in the service _ become. people from all walks of life in the service today, - become. people from all walks of life in the service today, bringing | life in the service today, bringing everyone together. from your musical knowledge, having a service like this, unique, specialand this, unique, special and privileged? this, unique, specialand privileged? i this, unique, special and privileged?— privileged? i feel for the performers _ privileged? i feel for the performers and - privileged? i feel for the performers and many i privileged? i feel for the performers and many of| privileged? i feel for the i performers and many of those privileged? i feel for the _ performers and many of those who are in the choir, there is a huge amount of pressure on them, the two royal harpists, the first royal harpists and the current one, playing in a hugely significant occasion, they will all feel that, hugely significant occasion, they willall feel that, but hugely significant occasion, they will all feel that, but celebrating wales as a land of song and a very musical nation, it is great to have this opportunity to showcase what is rather special and unique about our nation. ., , ., ., nation. some of those hints are not cathedral will— nation. some of those hints are not cathedral will be _ nation. some of those hints are not cathedral will be very, _ nation. some of those hints are not cathedral will be very, very - nation. some of those hints are not cathedral will be very, very speciall cathedral will be very, very special this morning and hopefully we will try to catch up with catching finch after the service —— some of those hymns in the cathedral will be very, very special. thank you very much. with me is dr barry morgan, former archbishop of wales and joining us now is emily nash, royal correspondent for hello magazine. hello, emily. iam hello, emily. i am told the queen was a fan of your magazine. we know it is seen in — was a fan of your magazine. we know it is seen in the _ was a fan of your magazine. we know it is seen in the royal _ was a fan of your magazine. we know it is seen in the royal household, i it is seen in the royal household, i'm not sure whether her majesty picked it up regularly but it is seen that. picked it up regularly but it is seen that-— picked it up regularly but it is seenthat. ., ., ., ., seen that. you are originally from cardiff, fabulous _ seen that. you are originally from cardiff, fabulous sites _ seen that. you are originally from cardiff, fabulous sites of - seen that. you are originally from cardiff, fabulous sites of your i seen that. you are originally from l cardiff, fabulous sites of your home city. with your dayjob you have travelled with the royal family, we have learnt a lot about the relationship between the queen and scotland earlier this week and indeed northern ireland, how does wales fit in? it is indeed northern ireland, how does wales fit in?— wales fit in? it is fair to say it is a slightly — wales fit in? it is fair to say it is a slightly complicated i is a slightly complicated relationship in some ways, but the now king has really committed himself over the years, he has bought a home at, the first prince of wales in history to do that. he was the longest serving prince of wales and he has spent a lot of time there. i have covered lots ofjobs with him in wales on the ground. when people come in contact with him they always come away completely charmed. it is interesting as simon weston said, when people actually encounter the now king they are one over, whatever their thoughts might previously have been. == over, whatever their thoughts might previously have been.— previously have been. -- they are won over- — previously have been. -- they are won over. barry, _ previously have been. -- they are won over. barry, i— previously have been. -- they are won over. barry, ithink— previously have been. -- they are won over. barry, i think we i previously have been. -- they are won over. barry, i think we have i previously have been. -- they are | won over. barry, i think we have a sense with the shots from llandaff, there is a mix of emotions. there will be the great solemnity we see in the service, but huge excitement which i had seen myself this week building up in cardiff and you can hear it in the crowds? the building up in cardiff and you can hear it in the crowds?— building up in cardiff and you can hear it in the crowds? the new king, last friday evening, _ hear it in the crowds? the new king, last friday evening, not _ hear it in the crowds? the new king, last friday evening, not long - hear it in the crowds? the new king, last friday evening, not long after i last friday evening, not long after the death— last friday evening, not long after the death of his mother, hits all the death of his mother, hits all the right— the death of his mother, hits all the right notes and spoke about unifying — the right notes and spoke about unifying the nations, his role as defender— unifying the nations, his role as defender of the faith, the church of england. _ defender of the faith, the church of england, he spoke about the importance of constitutional monarchy, so all of the things some people _ monarchy, so all of the things some people might worry about, he managed to reassure _ people might worry about, he managed to reassure people and also reach out to _ to reassure people and also reach out to harry and meghan, which was very important, the reconciliation. i very important, the reconciliation. i remember— very important, the reconciliation. i remember him when he was chancellor of the university of wales — chancellor of the university of wales and until recently i was the pro—chancellor, i had to deputise for him _ pro—chancellor, i had to deputise for him quite frequently, so he takes — takes a great interest in things welsh — takes a great interest in things welsh. my grandmother was a very thoughtful and sensitive person —— my granddaughter, who is a very thoughtful and sensitive person, as me yesterday whether i had written a letter _ me yesterday whether i had written a letter of _ me yesterday whether i had written a letter of condolence to king charles, _ letter of condolence to king charles, i said i haven't yet put going _ charles, i said i haven't yet put going to, — charles, i said i haven't yet put going to, she said, don't forget, he wrote _ going to, she said, don't forget, he wrote you _ going to, she said, don't forget, he wrote you a — going to, she said, don't forget, he wrote you a lovely letter when granny — wrote you a lovely letter when granny died. wrote you a lovely letter when granny died-— wrote you a lovely letter when grann died. �* . granny died. better get that letter written! emily. — granny died. better get that letter written! emily, for _ granny died. better get that letter written! emily, for such _ granny died. better get that letter written! emily, for such a - granny died. better get that letter written! emily, for such a long i granny died. better get that letter. written! emily, for such a long time he was prince of wales and obviously we have had the commitments he has done, to what extent will he be able to maintain, obviously now with the new role as king, it will be difficult? it new role as king, it will be difficult?— new role as king, it will be difficult? , ., ~ difficult? it will be and i think that is exactly _ difficult? it will be and i think that is exactly the _ difficult? it will be and i think that is exactly the reason i difficult? it will be and i think that is exactly the reason he i difficult? it will be and i think. that is exactly the reason he has created william as the next prince of wales. he has a strong family commitment to wales as a nation, more than 40 patron edges that, he is king and will not have the time he wants her to interact with them —— more than 40 patronage is the. in terms of the cathedral, we saw with a video that the cathedral is used to bake occasions on a fairly regular basis but this is right up there? —— the cathedral is used to big occasions. there? -- the cathedral is used to big occasions-— big occasions. yes, it has been a lona big occasions. yes, it has been a long time _ big occasions. yes, it has been a long time in _ big occasions. yes, it has been a long time in the _ big occasions. yes, it has been a long time in the planning - big occasions. yes, it has been a long time in the planning but i big occasions. yes, it has been a long time in the planning but it i long time in the planning but it will all— long time in the planning but it will all go — long time in the planning but it will all go like clockwork because everything will have been thought about _ everything will have been thought about. ~ , ., . everything will have been thought about. ., ., ,, everything will have been thought about. ., ., «t about. while you are talking, we can see the helicopter— about. while you are talking, we can see the helicopter of _ about. while you are talking, we can see the helicopter of the _ about. while you are talking, we can see the helicopter of the king i about. while you are talking, we can see the helicopter of the king and i see the helicopter of the king and the queen consort arriving, it has not quite arrived yet, due to arrive the pontcanna fields —— at pontcanna fields. we will keep talking as we wait for the helicopter, pontcanna fields is just down the road from llandaff cathedral, a relatively compact city, cardiff, we are not talking hugejourneys compact city, cardiff, we are not talking huge journeys today. compact city, cardiff, we are not talking hugejourneys today. hot compact city, cardiff, we are not talking huge journeys today. talking huge “ourneys today. not at all, it will talking huge journeys today. not at all. it will only _ talking huge journeys today. not at all, it will only take _ talking huge journeys today. not at all, it will only take a _ talking huge journeys today. not at all, it will only take a few _ talking huge journeys today. not at all, it will only take a few minutes. all, it will only take a few minutes to go from pontcanna to llandaff, and you can walk from llandaff into the city through fields.— and you can walk from llandaff into the city through fields. emadi, what will be going — the city through fields. emadi, what will be going through _ the city through fields. emadi, what will be going through his _ the city through fields. emadi, what will be going through his mind i the city through fields. emadi, what will be going through his mind as i the city through fields. emadi, whatj will be going through his mind as he prepares to touch down? —— emily, what will be? he prepares to touch down? -- emily, what will be?— what will be? he will be very well-prepared _ what will be? he will be very well-prepared for the day i what will be? he will be very i well-prepared for the day ahead, what will be? he will be very - well-prepared for the day ahead, you well—prepared for the day ahead, you can only— well—prepared for the day ahead, you can only imagine how exhausted he must _ can only imagine how exhausted he must be _ can only imagine how exhausted he must be after the past seven days, he has _ must be after the past seven days, he has not — must be after the past seven days, he has not had time to stop, yesterday— he has not had time to stop, yesterday people were talking about a day of _ yesterday people were talking about a day of reflection where he had phone _ a day of reflection where he had phone calls with heads of state and world _ phone calls with heads of state and world leaders all day yesterday, as far as _ world leaders all day yesterday, as far as i _ world leaders all day yesterday, as far as i can— world leaders all day yesterday, as far as i can tell. i think he will be looking _ far as i can tell. i think he will be looking forward to meeting people. — be looking forward to meeting people, notjust the officials be looking forward to meeting people, not just the officials and dignitaries waiting for him but i'm told he _ dignitaries waiting for him but i'm told he is — dignitaries waiting for him but i'm told he is keen to meet people who have come — told he is keen to meet people who have come see him. we can see the helicopter about to touch down. the particular dynamic here, barry, is that for decades and decades, over 60 years, the prince of wales and in the next few minutes for the first time, the countless occasions he has been to wales, the first time he arrives as king king... it first time he arrives as king kin: . .. . first time he arrives as king kin: . .. , , king... it will be interesting to see what prince _ king... it will be interesting to see what prince william i king... it will be interesting to | see what prince william makes king... it will be interesting to i see what prince william makes a virtual, as emadi hasjust said, king charles can't have the same kind of involvement, but he will remain attached, as we saw the queen was —— as emily hasjust said. but it will be interesting what prince william makes of the role and how he will link up with wales. i understand he plans to take some time to— understand he plans to take some time to fully get to grips, he wants to listen— time to fully get to grips, he wants to listen and understand and work out to— to listen and understand and work out to best —— how best to contribute. out to best -- how best to contribute.— out to best -- how best to contribute. «t ., , . ., , contribute. he knows wales, he lived on anglesey — contribute. he knows wales, he lived on anglesey for _ contribute. he knows wales, he lived on anglesey for two _ contribute. he knows wales, he lived on anglesey for two or _ contribute. he knows wales, he lived on anglesey for two or three - contribute. he knows wales, he lived on anglesey for two or three years i on anglesey for two or three years and the people in the area where he was a pilot were very protective of him. it simply wanted to know where he lived, they would send than in the wrong direction —— if somebody wanted to know. we the wrong direction -- if somebody wanted to know.— wanted to know. we see the royal vehicle just _ wanted to know. we see the royal vehicle just approaching _ wanted to know. we see the royal vehicle just approaching the i vehicle just approaching the helicopter. we're just waiting to catch the first glimpse the king, as we said, on his first steps into wales as king, after such a long time as prince of wales. and there it is. history made, barry? absolutely. he will arrive at — history made, barry? absolutely. he will arrive at the _ history made, barry? absolutely. he will arrive at the cathedral _ history made, barry? absolutely. he will arrive at the cathedral and i history made, barry? absolutely. he will arrive at the cathedral and a i will arrive at the cathedral and a few minutes and be greeted by the acting dean, at the moment there is no team in llandaff. the archdeacon is the acting dean, he will greet him, i think —— at the moment, there is no dean in llandaff. my successor will be there too, andrewjohnson. —— andyjohn. will be there too, andrew johnson. -- andyjohn— will be there too, andrew johnson. -- andy john. people do not realise that llandaff. .. — -- andy john. people do not realise that llandaff. .. he _ -- andy john. people do not realise that llandaff. .. he has _ -- andy john. people do not realise that llandaff. .. he hasjust - -- andy john. people do not realise that llandaff. .. he hasjust been i that llandaff... he has just been muted by the lord lieutenant of south america —— south glamorgan —— he hasjust been south america —— south glamorgan —— he has just been greeted by the lord lieutenant of south glamorgan. the lord lieutenant�*sjob is to lieutenant of south glamorgan. the lord lieutenant�*s job is to organise royal visits into south wales and into her area. someone he will know very well, so many of the people he will meet today he has known extremely well from his previous role, but it is a different time and a different era, emily?— a different era, emily? yes, he is now head — a different era, emily? yes, he is now head of _ a different era, emily? yes, he is now head of state, _ a different era, emily? yes, he is now head of state, head - a different era, emily? yes, he is now head of state, head of- a different era, emily? yes, he is now head of state, head of the i a different era, emily? yes, he is- now head of state, head of the royal family _ now head of state, head of the royal family and _ now head of state, head of the royal family and he is there for the first time _ family and he is there for the first time as— family and he is there for the first time as king. he has obviously had a very long _ time as king. he has obviously had a very long apprenticeship for this but it— very long apprenticeship for this but it is— very long apprenticeship for this but it is still a huge moment for him _ but it is still a huge moment for him i_ but it is still a huge moment for him. .. but it is still a huge moment for him. «t , , . ., , but it is still a huge moment for him. «t ,, . ., , ., him. i think it helps in wales that he knows lots _ him. i think it helps in wales that he knows lots of _ him. i think it helps in wales that he knows lots of these _ him. i think it helps in wales that he knows lots of these people i he knows lots of these people already so it's he knows lots of these people already so its building on relationships already has? it already so it's building on relationships already has? it has to be a hue relationships already has? it has to be a huge advantage. _ relationships already has? it has to be a huge advantage. he _ relationships already has? it has to be a huge advantage. he is - relationships already has? it has to be a huge advantage. he is not i be a huge advantage. he is not cominu be a huge advantage. he is not coming in _ be a huge advantage. he is not coming in cold _ be a huge advantage. he is not coming in cold by _ be a huge advantage. he is not coming in cold by any - be a huge advantage. he is not coming in cold by any means. i be a huge advantage. he is not i coming in cold by any means. we should coming in cold by any means. should just coming in cold by any means. - should just start to see a sense of the interaction with the crowds as he leaves pontcanna fields on a glorious day in cardiff. a relatively short journey, glorious day in cardiff. a relatively shortjourney, as we have already said, up to the city of london, the city within the city, just in the northern suburbs of cardiff —— the city of landaff. we touched upon the debate of how he handles the role etc, emily, but todayis handles the role etc, emily, but today is twofold, at the start of the day we will see this is an occasion for people to remember his mother? . . occasion for people to remember his mother? , , ., ., , , mother? yes, but alongside this formal process _ mother? yes, but alongside this formal process of _ mother? yes, but alongside this formal process of recognition i mother? yes, but alongside this formal process of recognition of| mother? yes, but alongside this i formal process of recognition of his sorrow— formal process of recognition of his sorrow there is an opportunity to be visible _ sorrow there is an opportunity to be visible as— sorrow there is an opportunity to be visible as king and to get among people. — visible as king and to get among people. i— visible as king and to get among people, i think that it's very crucial— people, i think that it's very crucial at _ people, i think that it's very crucial at the moment.- people, i think that it's very crucial at the moment. that is interesting. — crucial at the moment. that is interesting, we _ crucial at the moment. that is interesting, we have - crucial at the moment. that is interesting, we have seen i crucial at the moment. that is interesting, we have seen it i crucial at the moment. that is i interesting, we have seen it already interesting, we have seen it already in recent days, the extent to which he has done that in scotland and northern ireland outside buckingham palace, it clearly enjoys it? mr; palace, it clearly en'oys it? my senses palace, it clearly en'oys it? my he is h palace, it clearly enjoys it? my senses he is taking great comfort from _ senses he is taking great comfort from the — senses he is taking great comfort from the crowds and the encouragement, from all the kind words _ encouragement, from all the kind words people had said about obviously the late queen and in terms _ obviously the late queen and in terms of— obviously the late queen and in terms of encouraging and supporting him, terms of encouraging and supporting him. i_ terms of encouraging and supporting him. ithink— terms of encouraging and supporting him, i think being in london over the last— him, i think being in london over the last few— him, i think being in london over the last few days the reception he has had _ the last few days the reception he has had has been very warm, people were very— has had has been very warm, people were very moved by his address, as barry— were very moved by his address, as barry said _ were very moved by his address, as barry said earlier, he really struck a coat _ barry said earlier, he really struck a coat with — barry said earlier, he really struck a coat with people watching and whatever— a coat with people watching and whatever their opinions of him previously, they saw a sight of him they perhaps did not appreciate before — they perhaps did not appreciate before -- — they perhaps did not appreciate before —— struck a chord with people watching _ before —— struck a chord with people watching. and before -- struck a chord with people watchinu. �* «t before -- struck a chord with people watchinu. . «t .., , , watching. and i think he recognises the importance _ watching. and i think he recognises the importance of _ watching. and i think he recognises the importance of devolution i watching. and i think he recognises the importance of devolution by i the importance of devolution by going to scotland, northern ireland and now wales, that is very important, very important that each of those nations has a chance to reflect and give thanks for the life of his late mother, and that is primarily what this service is about, reflection and prayerfor queen elizabeth ii. we about, reflection and prayer for queen elizabeth ii.— about, reflection and prayer for queen elizabeth ii. we are seeing the final piece _ queen elizabeth ii. we are seeing the final piece in _ queen elizabeth ii. we are seeing the final piece in the _ queen elizabeth ii. we are seeing the final piece in the jigsaw i queen elizabeth ii. we are seeing | the final piece in the jigsaw today, to an extent, all within a matter of days after the queen's death, it has long been planned that he should go to the three cities of the devolved nations and before the funeral of his mother next monday. the plough i think it has been called 0peration spring tide, this is the way he has travelled the uk over the past week, it is about being visible and giving people an opportunity to remember his mother but people an opportunity to remember his mothe , ., , ., , his mother but also see him as monarch- _ his mother but also see him as monarch- we _ his mother but also see him as monarch. we can _ his mother but also see him as monarch. we can see - his mother but also see him as monarch. we can see the i his mother but also see him as| monarch. we can see the shots his mother but also see him as i monarch. we can see the shots from the helicopter _ monarch. we can see the shots from the helicopter of _ monarch. we can see the shots from the helicopter of the _ monarch. we can see the shots from the helicopter of the royal— monarch. we can see the shots from the helicopter of the royal car i the helicopter of the royal car snaking through the city. we will start to see its approach llandaff fairly soon where we know the crowds have gathered and will have been gathering from the early hours of this morning. the official events of the day will start with the service of reflection. two her late majesty elizabeth ii.- late ma'esty elizabeth ii. sounds like a late majesty elizabeth ii. sounds like a very warm _ late majesty elizabeth ii. sounds like a very warm reception. i late majesty elizabeth ii. sounds like a very warm reception. are i like a very warm reception. are cominu like a very warm reception. are coming up _ like a very warm reception. are coming up the _ like a very warm reception. are coming up the high street in llandaff _ coming up the high street in llandaff. ~ «t ., ., , ., llandaff. we know a number of the schools have _ llandaff. we know a number of the schools have all _ llandaff. we know a number of the schools have all the _ llandaff. we know a number of the schools have all the pupils - llandaff. we know a number of the schools have all the pupils out, i llandaff. we know a number of the schools have all the pupils out, we| schools have all the pupils out, we can see that. we are getting a sense of the excitement, which is obviously an integral part of the day. obviously an integral part of the da . , ., , , , ., obviously an integral part of the da. ., ., day. history is being made and llandaff is _ day. history is being made and llandaff is a — day. history is being made and llandaff is a very _ day. history is being made and llandaff is a very small- day. history is being made and llandaff is a very small part i day. history is being made and llandaff is a very small part of| llandaff is a very small part of cardiff with the city in itself but this is a huge moment. it is cardiff with the city in itself but this is a huge moment.- cardiff with the city in itself but this is a huge moment. it is a huge moment for— this is a huge moment. it is a huge moment for wales. _ this is a huge moment. it is a huge moment for wales. absolutely. i this is a huge moment. it is a huge| moment for wales. absolutely. the seat of the archbishop _ moment for wales. absolutely. the seat of the archbishop keeps i moment for wales. absolutely. the seat of the archbishop keeps on i seat of the archbishop keeps on moving — seat of the archbishop keeps on moving around, the bishop of manga is now— moving around, the bishop of manga is now the _ moving around, the bishop of manga is now the archbishop. but all national— is now the archbishop. but all national services take place at the cathedral— national services take place at the cathedral in llandaff, because of course _ cathedral in llandaff, because of course it — cathedral in llandaff, because of course it is— cathedral in llandaff, because of course it is near cardiff. —— bishop of bangor~ — course it is near cardiff. —— bishop of bangor. the streets have been closed _ of bangor. the streets have been closed for — of bangor. the streets have been closed for the past week, in fact. some lovely scenes as the convoy of cars works its way through these very narrow streets in this village, part of cardiff, as it approaches the main entrance to the cathedral. as the car approaches the entrance to llandaff cathedral, i will pass you over to my colleague gareth lewis. nick, thank you. it is a wonderful setting, even the weather doing its best this morning. the cathedral in a little hollow hidden from view, even hidden from view of those at the top of the hill, it is intimate and private, and also very public at the same time with the eyes of the whole world on what is happening in llandaff here this morning. the royal couple being greeted by the vice lord lieutenant of south glamorgan and then as we have seen throughout the week the greetings before the entrance to the service itself, that is so robert buckman, the welsh secretary at westminster, the welsh secretary at westminster, the first to greet the king. and next to him mark drakeford, wales's first minister, who is giving one of the readings later. next to mr drakeford is rustling moriarty simmons, the high sheriff, a tireless campaign and she is the lead of the thalidomide memorial. you will have sensed, this morning, to the excitement, yes, it is sombre, there will be dignity, but the crowd absolutely delighted to get their first glimpse of the king on welsh soil, and moment i'm sure no one here today will ever forget. ——rosaleen moriarty—simmonds. the police officer isjeremy vaughan, the police constable of south wales police, pointed during wales's vibrate lockdown during the pandemic. the gentleman with the grey hair with the robes is the acting dean of llandaff cathedral who will then introduce the leaders of other faiths abdul as ahmed, chair of the muslim council in wales and the gentleman with the white beard is the reverend aled edwards, chief executive of churches together in wales, and he always has a smile for whoever he speaks to and a a story to tell, and i'm sure he will have many more to tell after this morning. everyone of those leaders will give a prayer during the service. that isjune 0sborne, the bishop of llandaff, one of the original 1500 women ordained in england back in 1994 as priests. she is only wales's second ever female bishop. she has had some momentous days before, this may well be the most momentous of the lot and next to her is the archbishop of wales, also the bishop of bangor, the most reverend andrewjohn. the cross you can see is the metro political cross, which is always carried before the archbishop of wales in procession. and as the religious leaders make their way in, final words before the royal party enters the cathedral. the acting dean very relaxed in rehearsals yesterday, it looks completely at ease this morning too. 440 people from all walks of life across wales waiting for this service of reflection of remembrance, thanksgiving to begin. # tydi a wnaeth y wyrth, 0! # grist, fab duw, tydi a roddaist imi flas ar fyw,' # fe gydiaist ynof trwy dy ysbryd glan, # ni allaf, tra bwyf byw, ond canu'r gan,' # rwyf heddiw�*n gweld yr harddwch sy�*n parhau. # rwy�*n teimlo'r ddwyfol ias sy�*n bywiocau; # mae'r haleliwia yn fy enaid i, # a rhoddaf, iesu, fy mawrhad i ti # tydi yw haulfy nydd, 0! # grist y groes, yr wyt yn harddu holl orwelion f �*oes; # lle'r oedd cysgodion nos, mae llif y wawr, # lle'r oeddwn gynt yn ddall, �*rwy�*n gweld yn awr; # mae golau imi yn dy berson hael, # penllanw fy ngorfoledd yw dy gael,' # mae'r haleliwia yn fy enaid i, # a rhoddaf, iesu, fy mawrhad i ti # tydi sy�*n haeddu'r clod, ddihalog un, # mae ystyr bywyd ynot ti dy hun; yr wyt yn llanw�*r gwacter trwy dy air, # daw�*r pell yn agos ynot, 0 fab mair; # mae melodiau'r cread er dy fwyn, # mi welaf dy ogoniant ar bob twyn; # mae'r haleliwia yn fy enaid i, # a rhoddaf, iesu, fy mawrhad i ti. # yr ydym wedi ymgynnull gerbron yr hollalluog dduw i offrymu diolch am fywyd ein grasusaf arglwyddes sofran y frenhines elizabeth yr ail, am ei chadernid a'i hymroddiad i'w galwad gysegredig, am ei dewrder a'i harddeliad cyson o'i dyletswydd i bobl y deyrnas hon a'r gymanwlad. as we entrust her to our redeemer and lord, in whose promises she gained assurance and hope, we pray for our most gracious sovereign lord king charles iii, that god may grant him peace the mantle of his calling. we turn to our heavenly father in the words our saviour taught us: 0ur father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. for thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory, for ever and ever. amen. the congregation will now sing psalm 121, set to music by the master of the king's music until 1931. # i will lift up mine eyes unto the hills # from whence cometh my help. # my help cometh even from the lord: who hath made heaven and earth. # he will not suffer thy foot to be moved: # and he that keepeth thee will not sleep. # behold, he that keepeth israel: shall neither slumber nor sleep. # the lord himself is thy keeper: the lord upon thy right hand # shall give thee shade; # so that the sun shall not strike thee by day: # neither shall the moon by night. # the lord shall preserve thee from all evil: # yea it is even he that shall keep thee safe # the lord shall preserve thy going out and thy coming in: # from this time forth for ever more. # glory be to the father and to the son and to the holy spirit # as it was in the beginning, is now # and ever shall be, world without end. # amen. darlleniad o lyfr cyntaf y brenhinoedd aeth y brenin i aberthu i gibeon. honno oedd y brif uchelfa; mil o boethoffrymau a offrymai solomon ar yr allor yno. ymddangosodd yr arglwydd i solomon yn gibeon mewn breuddwyd liw nos; a dywedodd duw, "'gofyn beth bynnag a fynni gennyf.�* dywedodd solomon, "�*buost yn ffyddlon iawn i'm tad dafydd, dy was, am iddo rodio gyda thi mewn gwirionedd a chyfiawnder a chywirdeb calon. ie, parheaist yn ffyddlon iawn iddo, a rhoi iddo fab i eistedd ar ei orseddfainc heddiw. yn awr, 0 arglwydd fy nuw, gwnaethost dy was yn frenin yn lle fy nhad dafydd, a minnau'n llanc ifanc, dibrofiad. ac y mae dy was yng nghanol dy ddewis bobl, sy�*n rhy niferus i'w rhifo na'u cyfrif. felly rho i'th was galon ddeallus i farnu dy bobl, i ddirnad da a drwg; oherwydd pwy a ddichon farnu dy bobl luosog hyn?�* bu'n dderbyniol yng ngolwg yr arglwydd i solomon ofyn y peth hwn, a dywedodd duw wrtho, "0herwydd iti ofyn hyn, ac nid gofyn i ti dy hun flynyddoedd lawer, na chyfoeth, nac einioes dy elynion, ond gofyn deall wrth wrando achos, gwnaf yn ol dy eiriau. rhoddaf iti galon ddoeth a deallus, fel na bu dy fath o'th flaen, ac na chyfyd chwaith ar dy ol. rhoddaf hefyd iti yr hyn nis gofynnaist, sef cyfoeth a gogoniant, fel na bydd dy fath ymysg brenhinoedd, dy holl ddyddiau di. ac os bydd iti rodio yn fy ffyrdd, a chadw fy neddfau a'm gorchmynion, fel y rhodiodd dy dad dafydd, estynnaf dy ddyddiau hefyd. deffrodd solomon, a sylweddoli mai breuddwyd oedd. dyma air yr arglwydd. diolch a fo i dduw. a reading about what it takes to be a good leader, the story of mentor imparting wisdom to king solomon in age ream. —— the story of god. the next meeting will be the lord lieutenant of south glamorgan, mulford mr farage. —— the lord lieutenant of south glamorgan, morfudd meredith. a reading from the gospel according to st matthew. when jesus saw the crowds, he went up the mountain; and after he sat down, his disciples came to him. then he began to speak, and taught them, saying: "blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. "blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. "blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. "blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, "for they will be filled. "blessed are the merciful, for they will receive mercy. "blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see god. "blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of god. "blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, "for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." you are the light of the world. a city built on a hill cannot be hidden. no one after lighting a lamp puts it under the bushel basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all in the house. in the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory this is the word of the lord. all: thanks be to god. # almighty god, whose faithfulness is like the mountains # and whose mercy like the rain # whose wisdom ordained # that the lines should fall for us in delightful places # almighty god, whose faithfulness is like the mountains # and whose mercy like the rain # whose wisdom ordained # that the lines should fall for us in delightful places # grant us a spirit of thanksgiving and give us strength to serve # that when you call on us we shall be ready # to answer for this corner of the earth. # grant us a spirit of thanksgiving and give us strength to serve # that when you call on us we shall be ready # to answer for this corner of the earth. # almighty god, whose faithfulness is like the mountains # and whose mercy like the rain # whose wisdom ordained # that the lines should fall for us in delightful places # almighty god # grant us a spirit of thanksgiving and give us strength to serve # that when you call on us we shall be ready # to answerfor this corner of the earth. # # that when you call on us we shall be ready # to answer for this corner of the earth dear friends, we have come together this morning to give thanks to god for the life of queen elizabeth ii. here in wales, wejoin with the whole united kingdom, the commonwealth and with people across the world, to grieve her passing. we remember her service and dedication. this was truly a life of grace and wisdom. today we recognise too the sorrow of our new king and his family. in their grief, we assure them of our love and care for them and of our prayers. your majesties, it is an honour to welcome you here and to have been invited to host this service. wrth inni fyfyrio ar ei bywyd, rydym yn ymestyn yn ol ar draws yr oesoedd. ei theyrnasiad o 70 mlynedd a 214 diwrnod oedd yr hiraf o unrhyw monarch brydeinig a'r ail hiraf a gofnodwyd o unrhyw monarch mewn gwlad sofran. anrhydeddwn heddiw etifeddiaeth ryfeddol o wasanaeth a defosiwn sydd heb gyfartal yn hanes ein cenedl. across the country many have recognised the impact our late queen had on our public life as well as in the lives of individuals; on how, from the earliest days, she transformed the monarchy bringing an accessibility to a country still emerging from the ravages of war. her skills of diplomacy are well known but she had the ability to relate to the man or the woman on the clapham 0mnibus or here the merthyr tydfil 0mnibus — to the person on the street, with an attentiveness that made you feel you were valued, you were understood. born, perhaps, of her experience as a mother, grandmother and great grandmother as much as queen, this kind of skill is learned over the decades, by interacting with life in all its joys and sorrows. when matched with the dignity of her office, it is lifted to a higher level still. a christian word for this is grace. the queen shaped her role within a constitutional monarchy with its boundaries and responsibilities. her ability to influence, to utilise soft power, no less significant, no less authoritative, illustrates the wise and careful thought she brought to her role. parhaodd yr arweinyddiaeth hon ar draws cyfnod o newid aruthrol — diwylliannol, gwleidyddol a thechnolegol — ond i ni, chynigiodd sail i hyder drwy ganolbwyntio ar bethau a barhaodd. roedd ei chysondeb mewn cyfnod o her genedlaethol yn rhoi sicrwydd. nid oedd hyn erioed yn fwy felly na phan ddarlledodd neges i'r genedl yn ystod y pandemig. but we also saw a monarch who could surprise and delight us. we will never look at a jar of marmalade in the same way again, nor watch mr bond without remembering 2012 and that extraordinary leap into the void. her late majesty was also a towering figure on the world stage, embodying a stability and continuity but perhaps more than that, values — values which are shared across nations and cultures. she received countless heads of state as well as innumerable prime ministers. and it was her abiding trustworthiness as well as her hospitality which kindled friendship and confidence. in her role as head of the commonwealth she presided over a growing fellowship of nations and she embraced our diverse histories, cultures and languages, delighting in the sheer variety of this unique assembly. and at times when countries threatened to walk threatened to forsake each other, she displayed the skilful use of that soft power which i mentioned earlier, that way of exercising power that has reach and depth. in wales that skill was never more evident than when she visited aberfan in 1966. that community finding her presence deeply consoling and her majesty would return four more times to that community. in one of our bible readings we heard of solomon's request for the gift of wisdom at a time of significant change and transition: solomon following david as king. as wales gains an even stronger sense of nationhood and our place within the world, we should still remember that shared traditions count. on st david's day in 2006, the queen marked a new chapter in the life of our country when she opened our senedd. mae ein gwreiddiau fel pobl yn ddwfn, mae ein diwylliant a'n iaith, ein straeon a'n chwedlau yn ein gosod mewn treftadaeth unigryw ond hefyd yn ein harwain ymlaen at ddyfodol ag addewid a photensial. mae arnom angen y gras a'r doethineb a ddangoswyd gan y frenhines wrth inni gydweithio i adeiladu cymdeithas lewyrchus a thosturiol. finally, many of us will recall with gladness her deep and committed christian faith which shaped her sense of duty and public service from as early as 1947 when she pledged her life to the service of god and the people. in celebrating her 90th birthday she reaffirmed the importance of faith saying: "i have and remain very grateful to god for his steadfast love. i have indeed seen his faithfulness." hers was a personal faith: she spoke ofjesus christ and her relationship with him as well as his teachings and the way that his life, death and resurrection opened the possibility for new life, for restored relationships and a commitment to a kingdom not of this world. and so i end with her own words, as she reflected on the meaning of christmas for what turned out to be the last time. having lost her beloved husband and yet found consolation in the love and support shown to her from across the world she said: "it is this simplicity of the christmas story that makes it so universally appealing, simple happenings that formed the starting point of the life ofjesus — a man whose teachings have been handed down from generation to generation and have been the bedrock of my faith. his birth marked a new beginning. as the carol says: �*the hopes and fears of all the years are met in thee tonight.”' we thank god for this faith and this life, so full of grace and wisdom. amen. # god is love: let heav�*n adore him # god is love: let earth rejoice # let creation sing before him, and exalt him with one voice # he who laid the earth's foundation, he who spread # the heav�*ns above # he who breathes through all creation # he is love, eternal love # god is love: and he enfoldeth all the world in one embrace # with unfailing grasp he holdeth every child of every race # and when human hearts are breaking under sorrow�*s iron rod # then they find that selfsame aching deep within the heart of god # god is love, and, though with blindness sin # afflicts our human hearts # god's eternal loving—kindness # holding, guiding, grace imparts # sin and death and hell shall never o'er us final triumph gain # god is love, so love for ever o'er the universe must reign. # the apostle paul, writing to the christians in philippi, encouraged them with these words: "have no anxiety; but in everything, by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to god. and the peace of god which passes all understanding, will keep your hearts and minds in christjesus. let us, seeking that peace, pray to the lord. lord god, we give thanks for the life and reign of your servant, our most gracious sovereign, queen elizabeth. anointed by you to be both sovereign and servant of others, she governed and graced the life of wales with love, dignity and courage, rooted in a living faith in you as her guide and strength. grant to her the peace and life promised to your faithful servants. lord of life and promise. lord, give us your peace. we hold before you, our most gracious king charles iii. may your wisdom inform him, your illumination guide his heart and your truth inspire his words and actions. may he serve in righteousness and truth, doing justice. rabbana, grant us peace. lord of the call to serve. lord, give us your peace. yr ydym yn cydnabod cyflwr drylliedig cenhedloedd a chymunedau aneirif ar draws y byd a bywydau chwilfriw lliaws o'u gw ra'u gwragedd a'u plant ac, wrth gydnabod, gweddiwn dros bawb y mae grym a dylanwad yn eu dwylo. boed iddynt eu defnyddio i sefydlu heddwch ymysg y cenhedloedd a phlannu heddwch ym mhob calon. newidier a throer, er gwell, feddyliau a gweithredoedd y rhai sy�*n diystyru'r ymgais am heddwch. arglwydd pobloedd a chenhedloedd. arglwydd, dyro i ni dy dangnefedd. we pray for those whose lives are troubled by sorrow, suffering, abuse or neglect, we pray for the marginalised and persecuted, for refugees and victims of natural disasters. may their needs be seen, may their cries be heard and, in the recognition and answering of their needs, may they find strength and peace, and a sure knowledge of the love which you have for them. lord of healing and wholeness. lord, give us your peace. we pray for ourselves and the lives we live day by day. give us a deep knowledge of that peace which is your gift and, too often, beyond human understanding. by thought, word and deed may we be your instruments for that peace in our time and in your world. lord of hope of truth. lord, give us your peace. heavenly father, your son, jesus christ, has promised that, when we meet in his name and pray according to his mind, he will be among us and will hear our prayer. in your love and mercy, fulfil our prayers, that all for whom we have prayed will know your peace in heart and mind and being. we pray through christ our lord. amen. # guide me, 0 thou great redeemer # pilgrim through this barren land # i am weak, but thou art mighty # hold me with thy powerful hand # bread of heaven, bread of heaven # feed me till i want no more # agor y ffynhonnau melys sydd yn tarddu o'r graig i maes # �*r hyd yr anial mawr canlyned afon iachawdwriaeth gras # rho i mi hynny # dim i mi ond dy fwynhau # when i tread the verge ofjordan # bid my anxious fears subside # death of death, and hell's destruction # land me safe on canaan's side # songs of praises, songs of praises # i will ever give to thee.# almighty father, we bless your holy name for all who have completed their earthly course and are now at rest. we remember before you this day your servant queen elizabeth, rendering thanks for the gift of her friendship and for her life of service and devotion and we pray for our king and all of the royal family. # mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn annwyl i mi # gwlad beirdd a chantorion enwogion o fri # ei gwrol ryfelwyr # gwladgarwyr tra mad # dros ryddid collasant eu gwaed # gwlad, gwlad # pleidol wyf i'm gwlad # tra mor yn fur i'r bur hoff bau # 0 bydded i'r heniaith barhau.# fanfare # god save our gracious king # long live our noble king # god save the king # send him victorious # happy and glorious # long to reign over us # god save the king.# that concludes the service of prayer and reflection for the life of her majesty queen elizabeth ii. poignant, uplifting, even humorous at times, a celebration of a long life well lived and well loved. for all of those here, and undeniable excitement at getting to see and even to meet the new monarch and the queen consort. sounds very familiar hymns, thy great redeemer, message of a pilgrimage through life, bringing us safely to heaven. a poignant and very popular choice. the royal couple now making their way to the visitors' book which they will sign. way to the visitors' book which they willsign. plenty way to the visitors' book which they will sign. plenty of royal significance here. signed by prince william in 1991 on st david's day when he was just eight years old, his first official royal engagement. 0ne his first official royal engagement. one of those nonverbal insights into william, he signed the book with his left hand. the pain clearly worked which is a relief —— the pen clearly worked which is a relief. warm words from the king for the bishop of llandaff. so too for andrewjohn, archbishop of wales. they will remember this day. a nod to the modern face of the monarchy with his stories of the queen, having sandwiches with paddington bear, jumping out of a helicopter before the olympics with james bond. laughter again. before the olympics with james bond. laughteragain. i before the olympics with james bond. laughter again. i think he will tell the story many times about how he managed to make the king chuckle at the marmalade reference in the reading. and this is a lovely moment coming up. the little girl who you can see is young kira at the sunday school, she will present the queen consort with the posy. she was born in wales to american parents, that is her mum. she has onlyjust become a british citizen and she received her british citizen and she received her british passport on the morning of the queen's death. she was really excited yesterday and this morning too. favourite shoes and dress on for the occasion, apparently. what a moment for that little girl as the king and queen consort come out into the sunshine after rousing renditions of the national anthems, so from one archbishop of wales to one former archbishop of wales, barry morgan, what did you make of the service? i barry morgan, what did you make of the service?— the service? i thought the service was absolutely _ the service? i thought the service was absolutely splendid. - the service? i thought the service was absolutely splendid. it i the service? i thought the service i was absolutely splendid. it covered all the bases. the three hymns, i think, where well chosen. 0ne all the bases. the three hymns, i think, where well chosen. one by a nonconformist minister who won a prize for his hymn singing and the queen spoke about her personal relationship tojesus queen spoke about her personal relationship to jesus and queen spoke about her personal relationship tojesus and that hymn reflects that. the other hymn, godet is love, written by previous bishop of land off, he was a monk, a community of the resurrection, and that hymn is lovely, god is love, human hearts are breaking and they find that selfsame aching deeper than the heart of god, in other words when we are going through desperate times ourselves we are assured through jesus desperate times ourselves we are assured throuthesus christ desperate times ourselves we are assured through jesus christ that god is their too and the last verse about sin and death and hell shall never all the universe reign but love will have the last word, again reflected in the queen's faith and guide me like great redeemer sang both in english and in welsh. yes and some with _ both in english and in welsh. yes and some with a lot of gusto. emily, the archbishop of wales court quite a contemporary outlook, gareth alluded to it, talking about how the queen transformed the monarchy, appealed to the man and woman on the merthyr tydfil 0mnibus. xtegh appealed to the man and woman on the merthyr tydfil omnibus.— merthyr tydfil omnibus. yeah and i think that's absolutely _ merthyr tydfil omnibus. yeah and i think that's absolutely right. i merthyr tydfil omnibus. yeah and i think that's absolutely right. she i think that's absolutely right. she in life. _ think that's absolutely right. she in life. as — think that's absolutely right. she in life, as she has done in death, really— in life, as she has done in death, really unified people and brought people _ really unified people and brought people together from all walks of life and _ people together from all walks of life and i— people together from all walks of life and i think that the sermon really— life and i think that the sermon really reflected that. it was very touching — really reflected that. it was very touching but also humorous, as we heard _ touching but also humorous, as we heard there, with the talk of marmalade sandwiches. yeah, indeed, we saw a lightness _ marmalade sandwiches. yeah, indeed, we saw a lightness of _ marmalade sandwiches. yeah, indeed, we saw a lightness of touch _ we saw a lightness of touch throughout that service as well as events marking the solemnity of the occasion. let's go back to gethin jones, who is outside the cathedral. yes, some lovely light touches as was mentioned there, especially with little kira as she approached camilla the queen consort, a lovely moment. your thoughts, reflections on that service, tim? i moment. your thoughts, reflections on that service, tim?— on that service, tim? i thought it was beautiful. _ on that service, tim? i thought it was beautiful. it _ on that service, tim? i thought it was beautiful. it really _ on that service, tim? i thought it was beautiful. it really showed i was beautiful. it really showed wales, lovely to hear so much welsh language in there, three great welsh hymn tunes and the choir and the performance of the work by paul mealor showed a contemporary side of music in wales as well. we mealor showed a contemporary side of music in wales as well.— music in wales as well. we en'oyed watchin: music in wales as well. we en'oyed watching and — music in wales as well. we en'oyed watching and it i music in wales as well. we en'oyed watching and it was i music in wales as well. we en'oyed watching and it was hard i music in wales as well. we en'oyed watching and it was hard not i music in wales as well. we enjoyed watching and it was hard not to - watching and it was hard not to start singing as well, the three of us started singing with those hymns, and you mentioned at the time it was the togetherness that you see in the cathedral this morning that was special. cathedral this morning that was secial. �* , ., cathedral this morning that was secial. v . , , special. it's the warmth, everybody seems to feel _ special. it's the warmth, everybody seems to feel so _ special. it's the warmth, everybody seems to feel so privileged - special. it's the warmth, everybody seems to feel so privileged to - special. it's the warmth, everybody seems to feel so privileged to be i seems to feel so privileged to be here and — seems to feel so privileged to be here and to enjoy the occasion and i think_ here and to enjoy the occasion and i think that's — here and to enjoy the occasion and i think that's what's so special. when you have _ think that's what's so special. when you have these occasions you have to really _ you have these occasions you have to really enjoy _ you have these occasions you have to really enjoy it because they don't happen— really enjoy it because they don't happen in— really enjoy it because they don't happen in too many lifetimes, that is for— happen in too many lifetimes, that is for sure — happen in too many lifetimes, that is for sure. i�*m happen in too many lifetimes, that is for sure-— is for sure. i'm hoping we will be 'oined b is for sure. i'm hoping we will be joined by catrin _ is for sure. i'm hoping we will be joined by catrin finch _ is for sure. i'm hoping we will be joined by catrin finch who - is for sure. i'm hoping we will be joined by catrin finch who was i joined by catrin finch who was performing in the cathedral, i know you are good friends with catrin, you are good friends with catrin, you can talk about her before she gets here. how do you think she will have been feeling during that service? i have been feeling during that service? . , , have been feeling during that service? ., , , ., , service? i happened to be with catrin last _ service? i happened to be with catrin last night _ service? i happened to be with catrin last night and _ service? i happened to be with catrin last night and we - service? i happened to be with catrin last night and we were l catrin last night and we were talking about this. she is an extremely experienced professional but when you are performing any occasion of this stature, there is always going to be those nerves and any professional musician wants to do a greatjob. thejob is to control the nerves. there would have been a frisson despite however many years she's been playing for. i can tell ou years she's been playing for. i can tell you can _ years she's been playing for. i can tell you can see _ years she's been playing for. i can tell you can see in _ years she's been playing for. i can tell you can see in your— years she's been playing for. i can tell you can see in your periphery, she is about to join us now. tell you can see in your periphery, she is about tojoin us now. come and join us, catrin she is about tojoin us now. come andjoin us, catrin, lovely she is about tojoin us now. come and join us, catrin, lovely to see you. you are under pressure, tim talking about you. lovely to see you. how was it in there? are you able to enjoy the experience whilst concentrating on the job able to enjoy the experience whilst concentrating on thejob in hand? yeah, i mean, youjustabsorb concentrating on thejob in hand? yeah, i mean, you just absorb it. you _ yeah, i mean, you just absorb it. you are _ yeah, i mean, you just absorb it. you are there _ yeah, i mean, you just absorb it. you are there and _ yeah, i mean, you just absorb it. you are there and it's— yeah, i mean, you just absorb it. you are there and it's such - yeah, i mean, you just absorb it. you are there and it's such a - you are there and it's such a privilege. _ you are there and it's such a privilege, isn't— you are there and it's such a privilege, isn't it, _ you are there and it's such a privilege, isn't it, to- you are there and it's such a privilege, isn't it, to be - you are there and it's such a privilege, isn't it, to be part| you are there and it's such a . privilege, isn't it, to be part of such— privilege, isn't it, to be part of such an — privilege, isn't it, to be part of such an important _ privilege, isn't it, to be part of such an important event. - privilege, isn't it, to be part of such an important event. heir, such an important event. yeah. heir, and it's something _ such an important event. yeah. heir, and it's something that _ such an important event. yeah. heir, and it's something that i _ such an important event. yeah. heir, and it's something that i will- such an important event“! heir, and it's something that i will end - and it's something that i will end everyohe — and it's something that i will end everyone here _ and it's something that i will end everyone here probably- and it's something that i will end everyone here probably will- and it's something that i will end everyone here probably will look| everyone here probably will look back on— everyone here probably will look back on in— everyone here probably will look back on in many— everyone here probably will look back on in many years _ everyone here probably will look back on in many years to - everyone here probably will look back on in many years to come. | everyone here probably will look. back on in many years to come. it back on in many years to come. [i was back on in many years to come. was so beautiful, such a back on in many years to come.- was so beautiful, such a wonderful performance. we are seeing the king make his way up towards land performance. we are seeing the king make his way up towards [and off village, where he may greet a few people. you would have been there before. what kind of experience would that be like for people meeting the king, king charles? i’m meeting the king, king charles? i'm 61, what the nine or ten—year—olds i'm 61, what the nine or ten—year—olds i'm going — 61, what the nine or ten—year—olds i'm going to— 61, what the nine or ten—year—olds i'm going to be feel like i couldn't tell you _ i'm going to be feel like i couldn't tell you but for anybody else who -ets tell you but for anybody else who gets to _ tell you but for anybody else who gets to meet the royal family, it's an incredibly special moment. people turn out _ an incredibly special moment. people turn out for— an incredibly special moment. people turn out for these things and they remember— turn out for these things and they remember them turn out for these things and they rememberthem for turn out for these things and they remember them for the rest of their lives _ remember them for the rest of their lives i_ remember them for the rest of their lives. i rememberthe first remember them for the rest of their lives. i remember the first time remember them for the rest of their lives. i rememberthe first time i ever— lives. i rememberthe first time i ever saw— lives. i rememberthe first time i ever saw royals, it was princess margaret — ever saw royals, it was princess margaret opening the water board and i rememberthat margaret opening the water board and i remember that from margaret opening the water board and i rememberthat from being margaret opening the water board and i remember that from being a child so i i remember that from being a child so i think— i remember that from being a child so i think these will remember it for the _ so i think these will remember it for the rest of their days as well. him, _ for the rest of their days as well. hinr. so— for the rest of their days as well. him, so many people preparing for today will stop it would have taken over life for the last week or so, wouldn't it? fih over life for the last week or so, wouldn't it?— over life for the last week or so, wouldn't it? , ., ., ,, i. wouldn't it? oh my goodness, you can't lan wouldn't it? oh my goodness, you can't plan for— wouldn't it? oh my goodness, you can't plan for a — wouldn't it? oh my goodness, you can't plan for a royal _ wouldn't it? oh my goodness, you can't plan for a royal death - wouldn't it? oh my goodness, you can't plan for a royal death with i can't plan for a royal death with despite the preparations that do go, there is going to be that short period of time, so to turn everything around and get performers like catrin, it's a hugejob of logistics for site catrin, can i ask what you think will be going through his mind now? you with a royal harpist in 2004, the prince of wales' harpist back then, you know him quite well. how do you think you will be feeling today? i’m him quite well. how do you think you will be feeling today?— will be feeling today? i'm sure he is in very mixed _ will be feeling today? i'm sure he is in very mixed emotions, - will be feeling today? i'm sure he is in very mixed emotions, isn't l will be feeling today? i'm sure he i is in very mixed emotions, isn't he? he's lost his mother so... and yet he has such great and huge role to fill and so, but as you can see, he is a very friendly and warm person and i'm sure the crowds there will be feeling that from him and yeah, i'm sure he is thinking about the path and hisjourney i'm sure he is thinking about the path and his journey ahead. of course, as broadcasters we have of course, as broadcasters we have been making plans throughout the week but one thing we have seen with king charles is the amount of time he has spent around the four nations with the crowds. he has been keen to speak to people and carry out his duty. speak to people and carry out his du . ., ., , , speak to people and carry out his du. ., , 4' duty. yeah, absolutely. ithink that's very _ duty. yeah, absolutely. ithink that's very typical— duty. yeah, absolutely. ithink that's very typical of _ duty. yeah, absolutely. ithink that's very typical of the - duty. yeah, absolutely. ithink| that's very typical of the person duty. yeah, absolutely. ithink- that's very typical of the person he is, actually, — that's very typical of the person he is, actually, in— that's very typical of the person he is, actually, in my— that's very typical of the person he is, actually, in my years _ that's very typical of the person he is, actually, in my years of- that's very typical of the person he i is, actually, in my years of knowing him and _ is, actually, in my years of knowing him and being— is, actually, in my years of knowing him and being around _ is, actually, in my years of knowing him and being around him - is, actually, in my years of knowing him and being around him and - is, actually, in my years of knowing l him and being around him and being at events— him and being around him and being at events he— him and being around him and being at events he has— him and being around him and being at events he has been— him and being around him and being at events he has been at. _ him and being around him and being at events he has been at. he - him and being around him and being at events he has been at. he has. at events he has been at. he has always— at events he has been at. he has always behaved _ at events he has been at. he has always behaved in— at events he has been at. he has always behaved in that _ at events he has been at. he has always behaved in that way - at events he has been at. he has always behaved in that way and i always behaved in that way and wanted — always behaved in that way and wanted to — always behaved in that way and wanted to be _ always behaved in that way and wanted to be with _ always behaved in that way and wanted to be with the - always behaved in that way and wanted to be with the people . always behaved in that way and i wanted to be with the people and, you know. i— wanted to be with the people and, you know, i think especially- you know, i think especially here in wales, _ you know, i think especially here in wales, obviously as the _ you know, i think especially here in wales, obviously as the prince - you know, i think especially here in wales, obviously as the prince of. wales, obviously as the prince of wales, _ wales, obviously as the prince of wales, he — wales, obviously as the prince of wales, he had _ wales, obviously as the prince of wales, he had a _ wales, obviously as the prince of wales, he had a certain - wales, obviously as the prince ofi wales, he had a certain fondness wales, obviously as the prince of- wales, he had a certain fondness for welsh _ wales, he had a certain fondness for welsh culture, — wales, he had a certain fondness for welsh culture, for— wales, he had a certain fondness for welsh culture, for our— wales, he had a certain fondness for welsh culture, for our heritage - wales, he had a certain fondness for welsh culture, for our heritage and i welsh culture, for our heritage and for our— welsh culture, for our heritage and for our language _ welsh culture, for our heritage and for our language and _ welsh culture, for our heritage and for our language and a _ welsh culture, for our heritage and for our language and a great- welsh culture, for our heritage and i for our language and a great respect for our language and a great respect for that, _ for our language and a great respect for that, so— for our language and a great respect for that, so i— for our language and a great respect for that, so i think— for our language and a great respect for that, so i think he _ for our language and a great respect for that, so i think he has _ for our language and a great respect for that, so i think he has embraced| for that, so i think he has embraced that over— for that, so i think he has embraced that over the — for that, so i think he has embraced that over the years. _ for that, so i think he has embraced that over the years. i _ for that, so i think he has embraced that over the years.— that over the years. i think he's auoin that over the years. i think he's going away _ that over the years. i think he's going away with _ that over the years. i think he's going away with a _ that over the years. i think he's going away with a few- that over the years. i think he's| going away with a few souvenirs that over the years. i think he's - going away with a few souvenirs from some local schoolchildren who look like they've made a mug with some photos on and he makes his way to meet schoolchildren from all over cardiff, actually. simon, you mentioned his sense of humour like his mother before him. inter?r mentioned his sense of humour like his mother before him.— mentioned his sense of humour like his mother before him. very much so. his father and — his mother before him. very much so. his father and his _ his mother before him. very much so. his father and his mother, _ his mother before him. very much so. his father and his mother, very - his father and his mother, very funny— his father and his mother, very funny people, the wonderful twinkle and a _ funny people, the wonderful twinkle and a bit _ funny people, the wonderful twinkle and a bit of devil, so he carries that— and a bit of devil, so he carries that sense _ and a bit of devil, so he carries that sense of humour. he is an incredibly— that sense of humour. he is an incredibly personable man. he does like people and he does always have something funny to say. he always does have — something funny to say. he always does have something very pertinent to say— does have something very pertinent to say about things and yeah, different— to say about things and yeah, different occasions, different stories— different occasions, different stories to tell.— different occasions, different stories to tell. what does he do now, stories to tell. what does he do now. tim. _ stories to tell. what does he do now, tim, there _ stories to tell. what does he do now, tim, there is _ stories to tell. what does he do now, tim, there is so _ stories to tell. what does he do now, tim, there is so many - stories to tell. what does he do i now, tim, there is so many people here today who have come out to pay their respects and get a glimpse of their respects and get a glimpse of the new king. he could be there for quite a while?— quite a while? absolutely, but with all the formality, _ quite a while? absolutely, but with all the formality, eight _ quite a while? absolutely, but with all the formality, eight days - quite a while? absolutely, but with all the formality, eight days ago i all the formality, eight days ago this man lost his mum and he has visited every nation, he has sat through so many ceremonies, that 40 minute walk from buckingham palace to westminster hall, i'm sure the comfort that he is getting from the love that he is being shown today by meeting people must be a huge sense of comfort to him at this difficult time. . the mood has changed quite a bit, hasn't it, simon, during the past week? of course, initially it was sad, sombre, a lot of reflection, but the last couple of days around the uk, actually, with people queueing to see her majesty lying in state especially in london, a real sense of camaraderie and more talk of the celebration of the life? this is what happens — of the celebration of the life? this is what happens when people have a bereavement. the initial shock and sadness _ bereavement. the initial shock and sadness that comes with all of that and then— sadness that comes with all of that and then you start to remember the -ood and then you start to remember the good times — and then you start to remember the good times. you remember people, you remember— good times. you remember people, you rememberfamily, good times. you remember people, you remember family, friends, and moments — remember family, friends, and moments when they were much happier times and _ moments when they were much happier times and i_ moments when they were much happier times and i think this is what eventually the king and the queen consort _ eventually the king and the queen consort will have had time to do, to remember— consort will have had time to do, to remember the happier times and remember the happier times and remember the happier times and rememberthe fun times remember the happier times and remember the fun times they had together — remember the fun times they had together. you know, the sadness has .one together. you know, the sadness has gone for— together. you know, the sadness has gone for that part, but now you have to move _ gone for that part, but now you have to move on. — gone for that part, but now you have to move on, and there's still a whole — to move on, and there's still a whole heck— to move on, and there's still a whole heck of a lot to go, they have a heck— whole heck of a lot to go, they have a heck of— whole heck of a lot to go, they have a heck of a — whole heck of a lot to go, they have a heck of a lot to actually go through, what with the coronation and the _ through, what with the coronation and the investiture of the prince of wales— and the investiture of the prince of wales and — and the investiture of the prince of wales and probably the most sombre thln- wales and probably the most sombre thing which is the funeral of the queen, — thing which is the funeral of the queen, which is not something i suspect— queen, which is not something i suspect they are looking forward to too much _ suspect they are looking forward to too much stop. too much lots suspect they are looking forward to too much ., , ., , ., , too much lots of phones, little babies, too much lots of phones, little babies. people _ too much lots of phones, little babies, people of _ too much lots of phones, little babies, people of all _ too much lots of phones, little babies, people of all ages, - babies, people of all ages, handshakes, a few fist pumps as well. fit. handshakes, a few fist pumps as well. �* , ., handshakes, a few fist pumps as well. . , ., , all the generations covered as he makes his way towards llandaff village, walking away from the cathedral towards the hill of llandaff village before he makes his way to the senedd. of course, everyone here to pay their respects to her majesty the queen and, tim, someone you met a few times. i queen and, tim, someone you met a few times. . , , queen and, tim, someone you met a few times. ., , , , ., few times. i was very privileged to meet the queen _ few times. i was very privileged to meet the queen on _ few times. i was very privileged to meet the queen on several- few times. i was very privileged to i meet the queen on several occasions with performances and when i got my mbe at buckingham palace. that occasion really sticks in my memory because it was an opportunity to take my nanna to buckingham palace and thejoy she take my nanna to buckingham palace and the joy she got from that day and the joy she got from that day and as we were leaving the palace some tourists came up and said, we are from japan and they said, please can we have a photo with the queen, they thought my nanna was the queen! i love the thought there is a photo of my nanna on a mantelpiece somewhere! it was a great honour to meet her and todayjust shows that the sense of admiration, love and gratitude that people have for everything she brought to the country. everything she brought to the count . . , everything she brought to the count . ., ., , everything she brought to the count . ., ., country. that is actually a sentiment _ country. that is actually a sentiment we _ country. that is actually a sentiment we have - country. that is actually a sentiment we have seen i country. that is actually a - sentiment we have seen quite a lot this week, various messages i've seen, that she felt like everyone's grandmother, didn't she?- grandmother, didn't she? yeah, i think so, grandmother, didn't she? yeah, i think so. and _ grandmother, didn't she? yeah, i think so, and just _ grandmother, didn't she? yeah, i think so, and just by _ grandmother, didn't she? yeah, i think so, and just by the - grandmother, didn't she? yeah, i l think so, and just by the outpouring of emotion— think so, and just by the outpouring of emotion and _ think so, and just by the outpouring of emotion and the _ think so, and just by the outpouring of emotion and the way— think so, and just by the outpouring of emotion and the way the - think so, and just by the outpouring of emotion and the way the country| of emotion and the way the country has responded, _ of emotion and the way the country has responded, it— of emotion and the way the country has responded, it is— of emotion and the way the country has responded, it is proof, - of emotion and the way the country has responded, it is proof, i- of emotion and the way the country has responded, it is proof, i think, | has responded, it is proof, i think, to her— has responded, it is proof, i think, to her legacy— has responded, it is proof, i think, to her legacy that _ has responded, it is proof, i think, to her legacy that she _ has responded, it is proof, i think, to her legacy that she will - has responded, it is proof, i think, to her legacy that she will leave i to her legacy that she will leave behind — to her legacy that she will leave behind and _ to her legacy that she will leave behind and to— to her legacy that she will leave behind and to the _ to her legacy that she will leave behind and to the person - to her legacy that she will leave behind and to the person she i to her legacy that she will leave i behind and to the person she was. what _ behind and to the person she was. what a _ behind and to the person she was. what a great — behind and to the person she was. what a great and _ behind and to the person she was. what a great and remarkable - behind and to the person she was. . what a great and remarkable woman she was _ of course, these events are meticulously planned, but i'm getting the feeling that even his majesty's own staff are not really quite sure how long he will be there for and it must be, simon, without doubt, one of the nicest parts of what he does, which is getting to meet the people he serves? absolutely, absolutely, but it is for them — absolutely, absolutely, but it is for them as well. he is meeting all the people — for them as well. he is meeting all the people that have come out to see him and _ the people that have come out to see him and the _ the people that have come out to see him and the queen consort, but, you know, _ him and the queen consort, but, you know. they— him and the queen consort, but, you know, they are all loving this. they will talk— know, they are all loving this. they will talk about this for the rest of their— will talk about this for the rest of their lives — will talk about this for the rest of their lives. it's a logistical and security— their lives. it's a logistical and security nightmare for all the staff that are _ security nightmare for all the staff that are around him, but, you know, that's— that are around him, but, you know, that's one _ that are around him, but, you know, that's one of— that are around him, but, you know, that's one of the joys, isn't it, that— that's one of the joys, isn't it, that he — that's one of the joys, isn't it, that he is— that's one of the joys, isn't it, that he is so personable and he does care and _ that he is so personable and he does care and he — that he is so personable and he does care and he does want to meet people and he'll— care and he does want to meet people and he'll will have his own stories and he'll will have his own stories and memories of this as well. | and he'll will have his own stories and memories of this as well. i do en'o his and memories of this as well. i u enjoy his relationship with the queen consort camilla, just watching today, a little aside, a little joke, a little smile. they are very much experiencing this together, aren't they? it was lovely when they arrived by helicopter — it was lovely when they arrived by helicopter and went to get in that car and _ helicopter and went to get in that car and he — helicopter and went to get in that car and he was talking to the corporat— car and he was talking to the corporal and the queen consort pulled _ corporal and the queen consort pulled his— corporal and the queen consort pulled his arm and said, we have got to go _ pulled his arm and said, we have got to go how— pulled his arm and said, we have got to go. how normal. at pulled his arm and said, we have got to go. how normal.— pulled his arm and said, we have got to go. how normal. at least someone is keeina to go. how normal. at least someone is keeping him _ to go. how normal. at least someone is keeping him to _ to go. how normal. at least someone is keeping him to time. _ to go. how normal. at least someone is keeping him to time. how - to go. how normal. at least someone is keeping him to time. how normal l is keeping him to time. how normal that was in — is keeping him to time. how normal that was in these _ is keeping him to time. how normal that was in these incredible - is keeping him to time. how normal that was in these incredible times. | that was in these incredible times. flowers, _ that was in these incredible times. flowers, even a mug to take with him from llandaff cathedral this morning. of course, his first visit to wales in his new role as king. and for camilla, queen consort, who also has some flowers. the nerves gone, are you able to enjoy this as a viewer and relax? i can take a deep breath. however many times you have played and performed, there is always a certain degree of nervousness before an event like this. of course. yeah, it makes you smile, to see these scenes. trier? smile, to see these scenes. very stranue smile, to see these scenes. very strange for _ smile, to see these scenes. very strange for me — smile, to see these scenes. very strange for me as _ smile, to see these scenes. very strange for me as a _ smile, to see these scenes. very strange for me as a local- smile, to see these scenes. very strange for me as a local boy - smile, to see these scenes. very strange for me as a local boy as well. i was brought up 200 yards away from here and i have never seen away from here and i have never seen a procession like this truth llandaff village and i am sure it will be a day that so many will remember —— through llandaff village. the motorcade will eventually make its way to fund cardiff castle. now they make their way to the senedd for a motion of condolence. but as they make their way in front of a massive crowd here that has come out to sea than today, a memory i am sure they will cherish —— to see than today. thank you for your company. diolch. thank you. some lovely contributions from simon and catrin finch. emily nash, oil editorfor from simon and catrin finch. emily nash, oil editor for hello from simon and catrin finch. emily nash, oil editorfor hello magazine. familiar sight, this, this very tactile approach he has got —— royal editor. i tactile approach he has got -- royal editor. . , tactile approach he has got -- royal editor. ., , ., ., , editor. i have seen it on many occasions- _ editor. i have seen it on many occasions. he _ editor. i have seen it on many occasions. he is _ editor. i have seen it on many occasions. he is now- editor. i have seen it on many occasions. he is now under. editor. i have seen it on many| occasions. he is now under the spotlight- _ occasions. he is now under the spotlight. that _ occasions. he is now under the spotlight. that is _ occasions. he is now under the spotlight. that is right. - occasions. he is now under the spotlight. that is right. people i spotlight. that is right. people for: et spotlight. that is right. people foruet he spotlight. that is right. people forget he is — spotlight. that is right. people forget he is obviously - spotlight. that is right. people forget he is obviously very - forget he is obviously very experienced but now he is in the full glare of the world's media and people are noticing the way he interacts with people, very warm and very funny. he has a way of connecting with people. i am sure there were lots ofjokes to the school children about getting the morning of school, i have heard him say that in the past. he has a good way of reaching out. i think it goes back to what we said in the sermon about the way the queen was able to connect with depth and reach and he has learnt from her.— has learnt from her. simon touched on it for the — has learnt from her. simon touched on it for the schedules _ has learnt from her. simon touched on it for the schedules and - has learnt from her. simon touched on it for the schedules and the - on it for the schedules and the people planning his day, it will make it difficult. ads, people planning his day, it will make it difficult.— make it difficult. a tight rope walk. make it difficult. a tight rope walk- they — make it difficult. a tight rope walk. they have _ make it difficult. a tight rope walk. they have a _ make it difficult. a tight rope walk. they have a strict - make it difficult. a tight rope - walk. they have a strict schedule. he has to be at a vigil later today at westminster hall with his siblings. he has two other locations to visit in cardiff this morning. yet he wants to give people his time. they have two gauge the situation and move him on as they need to. �* . , situation and move him on as they need to. 1, , a, ., ., ,., need to. barry morgan, to get your final reflections _ need to. barry morgan, to get your final reflections on _ need to. barry morgan, to get your final reflections on the _ need to. barry morgan, to get your final reflections on the day, - need to. barry morgan, to get your final reflections on the day, the - final reflections on the day, the service and the recollections of the late queen. service and the recollections of the late queen-— late queen. absolutely splendid service. ithink— late queen. absolutely splendid service. i think it _ late queen. absolutely splendid service. i think it was _ late queen. absolutely splendid | service. i think it was archbishop robert, — service. i think it was archbishop robert, the archbishop of canterbury in the _ robert, the archbishop of canterbury in the 1980s, who said monarchy puts a human— in the 1980s, who said monarchy puts a human face on the operations of government and that is precisely what _ government and that is precisely what charles did this morning i think— what charles did this morning i think and — what charles did this morning i think and that is what his late mother— think and that is what his late mother did as well. people can identify— mother did as well. people can identify with that. it humanises the institution — identify with that. it humanises the institution and makes people feel that they— institution and makes people feel that they belong to a country and that they belong to a country and that they— that they belong to a country and that they are important. dr that they belong to a country and that they are important.- that they are important. dr barry moruan, that they are important. dr barry morgan, former— that they are important. dr barry morgan, former archbishop - that they are important. dr barry morgan, former archbishop of i that they are important. dr barry i morgan, former archbishop of wales, emily nash, thank you for your contributions. as we know, queen elizabeth was the longest reigning british monarch making her son the longest serving prince of wales. let's take a look at charles' long established relationship with wales. the tradition of the monarch's eldest son becoming prince of wales dates back to the 14th century. and charles held that title for longer than any other prince of wales in history. what an ovation for prince charles. it was his first public visit to the principality since he was given the title prince of wales. prince charles was just nine years old in 1958, and at school when the news went public. we were all watching television and i remember being acutely embarrassed when it was announced, for a little boy of nine, it was rather bewildering. the official investiture was to take place 11 years later. as part of the ceremony would be in welsh, prince charles was enrolled at aberystwyth university to learn the basics of the language. it's quite a heavy syllabus, he will have his plate quite full. tutor and well known republican teddy millward was charged with teaching the young prince. he was quite easy to get on with, i must say. he learned quite quickly and quite well. 1969, the year of the investiture was a time of rising welsh nationalism, and there were fierce protests across the country. but for many in wales it was a thrilling occasion and the anticipation reached fever pitch. hello and good evening from caernarfon. you can just about cut the atmosphere with a knife as the excitement builds up to the climax which will be reached here at three o'clock tomorrow afternoon. it was the biggest royal event since the coronation. i, charles, prince of wales, do become your liege man of life and limb. millions around the world watched as the queen formally presented her son to the welsh people. for me, it is a way of officially dedicating one's life, or part of one's life, to wales. in the half—century which has followed, this dedication has developed into a very personal connection. as well as championing existing ventures, he's also inspired new projects, including the restoration of gwrych castle in north wales. i used to pass gwrych castle every day to and from school, so i saw it fall into dereliction. i was shocked by the level of disrepair and vandalism. so in a moment of desperation i wrote to the prince of wales and he wrote back wanting me to try and save the castle for the nation. i ended up meeting the prince about a year or so after the first letter. that meeting led mark to set up a trust to rescue the castle. it's all come from that initial passion that he had for history and architecture. the prince's strong views on architecture were well known. when he bought a home in wales in 2007, llwynywermod was restored in a way which would reduce its environmental impact with a focus on traditional welsh materials. emlyn morgan is one of his neighbours. you know, he's one of us. when i greet him now i always greet him, "welcome home." and i think that's very important. he has been a powerful advocate forfarming, helping wales's beleaguered rural communities through his charities. and a long—time patron of welsh arts, charles also revived the role of royal harpist for the first time since the 18705. the prince specifically asked if it could be for a young welsh harpist, so it was his way of giving some support to a young musician coming out of wales. it's clear his majesty holds in deep affection the country he has served for so long. doesn't matter if you are young, old, black, orwhite, he's got time for everybody, and people like that in this part of the world. the royal couple make their way to the senedd. different perspectives now on the new king. i am joined by professor sir deian hopkin and former labour and government minister, kim howells. aberystwyth formed part of that piece, you were at aberystwyth at the same time, what was it like? i at aberystwyth at the same time, what was it like?— what was it like? i wasn't envisioned _ what was it like? i wasn't envisioned but _ what was it like? i wasn't envisioned but i - what was it like? i wasn't envisioned but i was i what was it like? i wasn't| envisioned but i was there what was it like? i wasn't i envisioned but i was there for what was it like? i wasn't - envisioned but i was there for that clip when he arrived. it was quite a moment because, to be honest, we could not quite understand why we had been chosen but we were delighted the university was being recognised in this way. there was a lot of excitement. i cannot recollect any protest but maybe saw —— someone saw something i didn't. he became a student, he mixed with the other students. there were no lectures, it was the summer term. therefore, he had his tutor. we in the department did not teach him. he had his own tutor and he was taught by teddy who you saw in the film to speak welsh. it was a very light visit in the sense there was no security guards around, you could not see police wandering around, and they were a lot of well—wishers every day hoping to see him. but generally speaking, it was quite low—key until then came the investitu re. low-key until then came the investiture.— low-key until then came the investiture. , ' ., ., investiture. very different era and, kim howells. _ investiture. very different era and, kim howells, people _ investiture. very different era and, kim howells, people may- investiture. very different era and, kim howells, people may not- investiture. very different era and, | kim howells, people may not know this, but you have developed a relationship through art with the king. i relationship through art with the kinu. . relationship through art with the kin. _ ., , ., , relationship through art with the kinu. ., , ., ,., king. i made some very controversial comments about _ king. i made some very controversial comments about the _ king. i made some very controversial comments about the turner - king. i made some very controversial comments about the turner prize i king. i made some very controversial| comments about the turner prize one year and _ comments about the turner prize one year and out — comments about the turner prize one year and out of the blue i got this handwritten letter from the prince saying. _ handwritten letter from the prince saying. i— handwritten letter from the prince saying, i agree with every word. we started _ saying, i agree with every word. we started to _ saying, i agree with every word. we started to talk about art and about what he _ started to talk about art and about what he liked and what i liked, not exactly _ what he liked and what i liked, not exactly the — what he liked and what i liked, not exactly the same things. i realised he was _ exactly the same things. i realised he was actually a very passionate painter— he was actually a very passionate painter and a he was actually a very passionate painterand a gifted he was actually a very passionate painter and a gifted painter. he was actually a very passionate painterand a gifted painter. he really— painterand a gifted painter. he really works at it. over the years, we actually — really works at it. over the years, we actually exchanged paintings. he has one _ we actually exchanged paintings. he has one of— we actually exchanged paintings. he has one of mine and i have one of his. has one of mine and i have one of his at_ has one of mine and i have one of his. �* ., ., , , has one of mine and i have one of his. ., ,,, his. a relationship presumably never thouaht. .. his. a relationship presumably never thought- -- my _ his. a relationship presumably never thought... my father _ his. a relationship presumably never thought... my father was _ his. a relationship presumably never thought... my father was a - thought... my father was a communist. _ thought... my father was a communist. my _ thought... my father was a communist. my mother. thought... my father was a - communist. my mother described as chapel— communist. my mother described as chapel but— communist. my mother described as chapel but was even more radical. there _ chapel but was even more radical. there was— chapel but was even more radical. there was certainly not... they were republicans — there was certainly not... they were republicans in every sense. deep down. _ republicans in every sense. deep down, i_ republicans in every sense. deep down, i think i have republicans in every sense. deep down, ithink i have been republicans in every sense. deep down, i think i have been a republican until quite recently. now i republican until quite recently. now i have _ republican until quite recently. now i have a _ republican until quite recently. now i have a philosophy which says, this is a great _ i have a philosophy which says, this is a great country, a wonderful country. — is a great country, a wonderful country. it— is a great country, a wonderful country, it works, and if it works, don't _ country, it works, and if it works, don't fix — country, it works, and if it works, don't fix it — country, it works, and if it works, don't fix it i_ country, it works, and if it works, don't fix it. i have become a bit of a royalist~ — a royalist. laughter in your dealings, you have met the king as well, how did you find him? i have to say, we saw earlier how in fact scheduling his visits is a bit of a problem because he does want to break ranks and meet people. we had a very clear example of that in the centenary when he came to the welsh memorial and of course it was the centenary of a death as well and it was moving and he spoke and in welsh as well, lovely moment. when the time came for him to leave, do you think he would? he kept on mixing with the audience, and i could see the security guards tearing out their hair, saying, please, move along. he wanted to talk to people. i suspect, had they said, do you want to stay on? he would have said yes. but he had to move onto the big eventin yes. but he had to move onto the big event in the evening. that is the kind of tactile, engaging with people, people have now seen it. we saw at the very first day. that has a ways been the case. i think that approachability will probably serve him very well. whatever people might say about republicanism, monarchy, although i am very surprised kim has become a royalist, but that is another story... the truth is we now recognise there is a new relationship to be built with wales. it is interesting. what we saw today in front of, coming out of the cathedral, nothing new, in terms of the relationship with the public. it has been there for a while. now moving into a different phase of the visit today. on his way to the senedd. just to talk to you about the relationship with politics. you were not involved in devolved politics, you are an mp at westminster, but do you think people have talked about the new relationship as the king, a lot of us know what his views are in his time at the prince of wales, to what extent will he have to change things? could it pose problems? it will be a problem because he is very much _ will be a problem because he is very much involved in... he has a great sense _ much involved in... he has a great sense of— much involved in... he has a great sense of curiosity. so he is interested in politics, like he is interested in politics, like he is interested in politics, like he is interested in a lot of other subjects. but politics, that relationship between royals and british— relationship between royals and british politics in general has a ways— british politics in general has a ways been very important to him. my worry— ways been very important to him. my worry about _ ways been very important to him. my worry about the fact he is now the kin- worry about the fact he is now the king and _ worry about the fact he is now the king and everybody is saying he has to change. — king and everybody is saying he has to change, step back, not going to come _ to change, step back, not going to come out — to change, step back, not going to come out with opinions, he is going to find _ come out with opinions, he is going to find that — come out with opinions, he is going to find that very difficult, i think _ to find that very difficult, i think. and in many ways, i hope he doesn't _ think. and in many ways, i hope he doesn't step — think. and in many ways, i hope he doesn't step far back. i know that when _ doesn't step far back. i know that when he — doesn't step far back. i know that when he meets horrible dictators, he has to _ when he meets horrible dictators, he has to say— when he meets horrible dictators, he has to say hello to them through gritted _ has to say hello to them through gritted teeth. but i hope we can sense _ gritted teeth. but i hope we can sense those gritted teeth. because i think his _ sense those gritted teeth. because i think his views on liberty and on the need — think his views on liberty and on the need for democracy and freedom are very— the need for democracy and freedom are very important. i want to see that in— are very important. i want to see that in a _ are very important. i want to see that in a king. are very important. i want to see that in a king-— are very important. i want to see that in a king._ i l that in a king. briefly, 'ust... i think moi that in a king. briefly, 'ust... i think also we i that in a king. briefly, 'ust... i think also we are i that in a king. briefly, 'ust... i think also we are in i that in a king. briefly, 'ust... i think also we are in a i that in a king. briefly, just... ii think also we are in a devolved world and that was not the case when he became prince of wales. things have changed in his own lifetime and i think he understands and i hope he understands the relationship between wales and england, scotland and ireland, it is notjust a question of one nation. yes, one country, but we are four different nations and we have to recognise that.— we are four different nations and we have to recognise that. deian, thank ou. sor have to recognise that. deian, thank you- sorry to — have to recognise that. deian, thank you- sorry to cut _ have to recognise that. deian, thank you. sorry to cut it _ have to recognise that. deian, thank you. sorry to cut it short. _ you. sorry to cut it short. professor sir deian hopkin and kim howells, thank you. as the king continues to cardiff bay and the senedd, we canjoinjason mohammad who is there for us. good afternoon, prynhawn da, welcome to cardiff bay, lots of people gathered outside the senedd and now the beating heart of political democracy here in a very modern wales and it was back in 1999, when her majesty the queen accompanied by the duke of edinburgh and the prince of wales officially opened the very first session of the newly created national assembly for wales, as i say, now known as seluk cymru and today, his majesty the king and queen consort camilla will be here to receive a motion of condolence in the building behind me —— now known as senedd cymru. there will be mark drakeford, alanjones and the senedd members who are gathering inside the building as we speak ahead of the ceremony. to discuss what's going to happen this afternoon is professor laura mcallister from cardiff university. good afternoon to you. this building is a magnificent symbol of a very modern wales that the king is about to say. i modern wales that the king is about to sa . ~ , �* , modern wales that the king is about to sa . ~' , �* , ., to say. i think it is, it's a fantastic _ to say. i think it is, it's a fantastic emblem - to say. i think it is, it's a fantastic emblem of i to say. i think it is, it's a! fantastic emblem of how to say. i think it is, it's a i fantastic emblem of how much to say. i think it is, it's a _ fantastic emblem of how much wales has changed over the past 23 years since we've had devolution here. this fantastic building designed by lord richard rogers is many ways is meant to encapsulate all that is new about the welsh democracy, transparent building using natural light, a consensually designed debating chamber but in many respects the building itself shows how different wales is now of course to the time when her majesty the queen acceded to the throne back in the 19505, when wales had no effective democracy of its own. find. effective democracy of its own. and, laura, a effective democracy of its own. and, laura. a very — effective democracy of its own. and, laura, a very welsh _ effective democracy of its own. and, laura, a very welsh building, but the people of wales are very, very proud of. i the people of wales are very, very roud of. ~ , . , , the people of wales are very, very roud of. ~' , ., , , ., proud of. i think they are, yes, a buildin: proud of. i think they are, yes, a building designed _ proud of. i think they are, yes, a building designed by _ proud of. i think they are, yes, a building designed by lord - proud of. i think they are, yes, a| building designed by lord richard rogers but built entirely out of welsh materials, wood, steel, slate, and anything about the building is meant to represent the new, modern wales. the people of wales are clearly proud of this place, it's used for celebrations and on days like today less about celebration and more about respect and gratitude to the queen and a recognition of the new king was like you and i were here in 2006, when the senedd was opened by her majesty, and i remember we had a studio for bbc wales today, i was doing the evening news, i think you are here too and a studio on the water and the atmosphere here is quite similar, because what you've got here is a very respectful crowd, lots of schools have travelled over from penarth, just across the water, because they wanted to be part of this historic occasion. i think so, the mood is very sombre, clearly, a great deal of sadness after the death of the queen, but also people wanting to be part of an historic moment and king charles' first visit to wales as part of his tour, of course, around all the nations of the united kingdom, and i think it is significant that wales features so prominently on that tour because for king charles and indeed for queen elizabeth, their recognition of devolution and the new political apparatus of wales has been constant since devolution began and the national assembly was established backin national assembly was established back in 1999, always present at every official opening and indeed as you say, jason, at the opening of this magnificent building too back in 2006. r , in 2006. absolutely, right, the ro al in 2006. absolutely, right, the royal cars _ in 2006. absolutely, right, the royal cars are _ in 2006. absolutely, right, the royal cars are arriving - in 2006. absolutely, right, the royal cars are arriving as i in 2006. absolutely, right, the royal cars are arriving as the i royal cars are arriving as the motorcade with the royal party comes around the corner, approaching the senedd. to signify the arrival of his majesty the king. in fact we can go now to sian lloyd, who will be leading us through proceedings in the senedd today. yes, a huge... yes, a huge crowd gathered here in front of the senedd, waiting for the cars to arrive. they are just around the corner. cheering proceeding along the side of the senedd building. cheering many people have their cameras up, waiting to take a photograph, as the horses arrive. cheering a cheer going up from the crowd, a huge cheer. a5 a cheer going up from the crowd, a huge cheer. as the car pulls up in front of the building. and we can see the royal party now being met from their car by the lord lieutenant of south glamorgan, morfudd meredith, and a huge cheer from the crowd is there. they will be heading up the steps of the senedd building, past members of the armed forces leading and lining the way, and representatives of the navy, raf and army, here today. the sun really beaming down on those crowds. 0n the sun really beaming down on those crowds. on this very modern building, which has become part of the landscape of cardiff bay. they wave their from the king. the landscape of cardiff bay. they wave theirfrom the king. —— and a wave theirfrom the king. —— and a wave there, from the king. reaching the top of the steps. and, waiting there to greet them, we can see llywydd, the presiding officer, alanjones, shaking hands, and mark drakeford, the first minister of wales. they are officially welcoming their majesties. fanfare a trumpet fanfare there to herald his majesty the king's arrival into the neuadd, that main entrance we can see the king talking to adam price, leader of plaid cymru. he represents carmarthen east and the senedd and waiting in line to be presented are the leaders of the political parties, represented here in the senedd. this is a very light and airy part of the building. and now meeting jane dodds, the leader of the welsh liberal democrats. senedd regional memberfor mid and west liberal democrats. senedd regional member for mid and west wales. and also being formally presented, the deputy presiding officer, david rees. harp plays and all along beautiful music, accompanying them, from the harp. this area surrounded by glass and it is a fantastic view out to cardiff bay and there the king dates manon antoniazzi, the chief executive and clerk of the senedd —— meets manon antoniazzi. she was a senior private secretary in the office of the prince of wales. now she has responsibility for running the machinery of the senedd, staffing and the property. the llywydd leading the way. and the first minister escorting the king and queen consort downstairs to the court. and there we see the harp being played beautifully by clare jones, former royal harpist. she was harpist to the prince of wales from 2007, until 2011, and now waiting for them in the court, two people who will play a key role in the more ceremonial elements of this motion of condolence. the wales herald of arms extraordinary, thomas lloyd, who we see there, is actually an expert on the historic buildings of wales. he has been wales herald since 2010 and also in front of him we see is a mace bearer, shahzad khan. they will be approaching the siambr, the main debating chamber of the senedd. leading the procession there, the mace bearer, shahzad khan, actually he is a member of the security team here at the senedd. of course the historic function of a mace bearer was to protect the monarch by beating off potential attackers, so quite a fitting role that he is playing here today. you can see the queen consort walking alongside the first minister, mark drakeford. a5 first minister, mark drakeford. as they make their way through the court. and now they enter the siambr. 60 senedd members already waiting in here for them. it is the only completely round debating chamber in any of the parliaments of the uk. the mace bearer now making his way to place the mace in its scones. —— sconce. and the royal party waiting there. the macy's made of gold, silver and brass. your majestys, senedd, and guests. we welcome your majesty i5 we welcome your majesty is today and offer our sincere condolences on the death of your mother, the queen. many have been saddened and shaken by their loss and hold you and your family in their hearts and prayers at this time. as we meet here today to offer our motion of condolence it's poignant for us to think that the queen's final visit to wales was merely 11 months ago at the official opening of our six senedd. the queen was on fine form that day. many members shared their anecdotes of that visit when we met to pay tribute to the queen and discussed our motion of condolence in the senedd on sunday and as she left us that day, 11 months ago, i hope that her majesty carried with her the beaming smile of the last person she met that day in wales, the young actor from verna and lynette lee, who smiled broadly as she handed the queen a posy. the stories and tributes paid by members to the queen when we convened on sunday were warm and witty. a5 queen when we convened on sunday were warm and witty. as you may imagine, there were many mentions of corgis, her constant lifelong welsh companions. corgi, a welsh word, literally small dog, and of course the members here representing pembrokeshire were particularly keen to champion her preference for the pembrokeshire corgi and the member for ceredigion me, was silent and ever so slightlyjealous of the queen's choice of the pembrokeshire corgi over the cardiganshire corgi. she speaks in welsh the queen was with us in 1999 for the opening of our first fledgling assembly. she shared ourjourney of devolution. she partook in each of our six openings commenting each time in the development of our powers and becoming a national parliament, senedd cymru. the queen respected this parliament because she respected the democratic choices of the people of wales, she saw us come of age and was interested in our next steps. from the first senedd of the 15th century, to the one in which we are gathered today, our story is old but our democracy is young and ambitious. it is my sincere hope that the modern relationship between this country, this senedd and the royal family will be rooted in respect and mutual understanding. she speaks in welsh a5 as we remember today the queen's enduring commitment to our parliament, we also look forward to the future association with the senedd and our work on behalf of the people of wales. i now invite the first minister to present the motion of condolence to his majesty the king. he speaks in welsh personal reflections, as you said, llywydd, often focusing on the queen's many visits to the senedd, encounters and conversations with members here. historical reflections focusing on the many changes which have taken place in wales over the last 70 years and constitutional reflections too, emphasising the commitment showed by the queen to this democratic institution and its place in a devolved united kingdom. many of the contributions were sombre, they reflected a sense of grief, of loss, and of national significance. butjust as many were human stories, of a life devoted to service and to duty, but interviewed by the keen sense of interest the queen always showed in the people she met and in all those things which in our case make wales what it is in the 215t —— but embued. we know because we saw it here in this chamber less than a year ago. today there is a sense of transition in wales. this morning we came together in a service of reflection at llandaff cathedral to look back over a reign unrivalled in its length and reach. latertoday, people in a reign unrivalled in its length and reach. later today, people in wales will have the chance to meet the new king at cardiff castle for the first time. the start of a new era. he speaks in welsh. he speaks in welsh iam i am deeply grateful for the addresses of condolence which so movingly paid tribute to our late sovereign, my beloved mother, the queen. he speaks in welsh. to all the years of her reign, the land of wales could not have been closer to my mother's heart. he could not have been closer to my mother's heart.— could not have been closer to my mother's heart. ,, ~ ,, . ,, mother's heart. he speaks in welsh. i know she took _ mother's heart. he speaks in welsh. i know she took immense _ mother's heart. he speaks in welsh. i know she took immense pride - mother's heart. he speaks in welsh. i know she took immense pride in i i know she took immense pride in your many great achievements, even as she also felt with you deeply in time of sorrow. it must surely be counted the greatest privilege to belong to a land that could inspire such devotion. i am resolved to honour that self such devotion. i am resolved to honour that sel— such devotion. i am resolved to honour that self selfless example in the sirit honour that self selfless example in the spirit of — honour that self selfless example in the spirit of the _ honour that self selfless example in the spirit of the words _ honour that self selfless example in the spirit of the words by _ honour that self selfless example in the spirit of the words by which i i the spirit of the words by which i have _ the spirit of the words by which i have always _ the spirit of the words by which i have always tried _ the spirit of the words by which i have always tried to _ the spirit of the words by which i have always trie— the spirit of the words by which i have always tried to lead my own life, i have always tried to lead my own life. i serve- _ he speaks in welsh. i take itake up i take up my new duties with immense gratitude for the privilege of having been able to serve as prince of wales. that ancient title dating from the time of those great welsh rulers, whose memory is still rightly honoured. i now pa55 rulers, whose memory is still rightly honoured. i now pass to my son, william, whose love for this corner of the earth is made all the greater by the years he himself has spent here. he speaks in welsh having visited the senedd regulate since it was founded, having heard your heartfelt words today, i know we all share the deepest commitment to the welfare of the people of this land and that we will all continue to work together to that end. thank ou, your to work together to that end. thank you. your majesty. _ to work together to that end. thank you, your majesty, for _ to work together to that end. thank you, your majesty, for your - to work together to that end. thank you, your majesty, for your words l to work together to that end. thank you, your majesty, for your words to the senedd and to wales. you and yourfamily will be in our hearts over the next few days. the queen's final words to us in this chamber, but also yourfirst final words to us in this chamber, but also your first words today, her words in welsh, diolch... heartfelt thanks. to the queen, therefore, our heartfelt thanks for a lifetime service. she speaks in welsh. that brings our proceedings to a close for today. harp plays the wales herald leading the procession from the siambr, the motion of condolence having been made and responded to by his majesty the king in welsh as well as english. and we heard from the king, he said that wales could not have been closer to the heart of the queen. and now alongside the llywydd, his majesty the king is meeting 12 representatives of wales's youth parliament, senedd ieuenctid cymru. they are made up of elected representatives of young people aged from 11 up to 18 from right across wales. some lovely smiles there. they debate and discuss issues of importance to young people. and it is an opportunity for them to work with those in power to reflect the views of their generation, their needs, as well as their achievements. interestingly, they now meet in the building behind the senedd, ty hywel, where assembly members meet and conduct sessions before the assembly building was officially openedin assembly building was officially opened in 2006. his majesty the king, of course, has a long association with youth organisations. now taking the opportunity to have a good chat with these members of the welsh youth parliament. among the group today we know iestyn jones parliament. among the group today we know iestynjones i5 parliament. among the group today we know iestynjones is being presented from carmarthen. i am sure this is going to be an occasion that really will stay with these young people, as they journey through will stay with these young people, as theyjourney through their lives. also today, leola being presented. the king really taking time to chat to these members of the welsh youth parliament and the queen consort, camilla. this taking place just after that reading of the motion of condolence. a ceremonial role. this now really just a chance to chat, as we have seen the king doing already this morning in llandaff as he met the crowds. harp plays the king seeming to enjoy, and again, big smiles that we can see. the first minister mark drakeford there also having a chat with these members of the welsh youth parliament. and there, a partner elected member. one of the 12 young people being presented today. other members of the welsh youth parliament also here today, they've been able to follow proceedings. the other members up in the public gallery, where they've been able to watch enfield park of this significant occasion —— where they've been able to watch, and feel part of, this significant occasion. it was in 2014 that the senedd signed up for the youth engagement charter aware young people's opinions were listened to, acted upon, and respected. and now the royal party, with the senedd llywydd, moving through the building. jason mohammad macro so the motion of condolence made, a ceremony a ceremony full of tradition despite the very modern setting. professor laura mcallister from cardiff university alongside me. your thoughts?— from cardiff university alongside me. your thoughts? fittingly i think there was a — me. your thoughts? fittingly i think there was a very _ me. your thoughts? fittingly i think there was a very nice _ me. your thoughts? fittingly i think there was a very nice blend - me. your thoughts? fittingly i think there was a very nice blend of- me. your thoughts? fittingly i think there was a very nice blend of the l there was a very nice blend of the old and the newcomer with the pageantry and heraldry of the entrance but then some more informal anecdotes communicated by the llywydd of the speaker of the senedd, and i think some nice representation of the next generation as well. we saw the new king meet with some members of the senedd ieuenctid cymru, the future generation of let's hope future politicians in wales and i'm sure they communicated their wishes for they communicated their wishes for the future of wales to the new king, so i think overall it was a powerful representation of wales as a distinctive nation with an identity of its own, particularly in the use of its own, particularly in the use of both of our official languages, of both of our official languages, of course, and the king himself, who learnt welsh whilst he was studying at aberystwyth, used some of that welsh in the siambr, the debating chamber, and it reflects in many ways what we are about as a modern nation in wales.— nation in wales. indeed, there is one we word _ nation in wales. indeed, there is one we word we _ nation in wales. indeed, there is one we word we use _ nation in wales. indeed, there is one we word we use in _ nation in wales. indeed, there is one we word we use in the i nation in wales. indeed, there is| one we word we use in the welsh language which means the importance, very important, a very powerful hearing the new king using the welsh language board. i hearing the new king using the welsh language lhoard-— language board. i think so, yes, particularly _ language board. i think so, yes, particularly for — language board. i think so, yes, particularly for viewers _ language board. i think so, yes, particularly for viewers who i language board. i think so, yes, particularly for viewers who are i language board. i think so, yes, i particularly for viewers who are not from wales, it might surprise them that the two languages, two historic languages, have the same status here in wales by law and of course this institution, the senedd, operates entirely bilingually with the same status for welsh has four english and i think hearing the king use welsh in the siambr is hugely significant because it's such an important part of our national life. he is very interested in the welsh language, having spoken to him when he formally opened the bbc to us at the new central square buildings at bbc cymru wales, he asked me about my learning of welsh and you get the feeling he is fascinated by the language. i feeling he is fascinated by the lan . ua . e. ~ feeling he is fascinated by the lanaauae. ~ ., feeling he is fascinated by the lanaauae. ~' . , language. i think so and it will be interesting _ language. i think so and it will be interesting to _ language. i think so and it will be interesting to see _ language. i think so and it will be interesting to see how— language. i think so and it will be interesting to see how the - language. i think so and it will be interesting to see how the new i interesting to see how the new prince of wales, prince william, takes that forward, of course, somebody who has very close association with wales throughout his life and his father suddenly embraced the welsh language board must some would say it's not easy language to learn but in fairness to the king he spoke clearly and well in welsh and that reflects well i think on his engagement with everything that makes wales a distinctive nation. find everything that makes wales a distinctive nation.— everything that makes wales a distinctive nation. and here we can see his majesty — distinctive nation. and here we can see his majesty now— distinctive nation. and here we can see his majesty now chatting - distinctive nation. and here we can see his majesty now chatting to . distinctive nation. and here we can | see his majesty now chatting to the members of the senedd and we know, hearing the professor in the studio today, he is in politics. at hearing the professor in the studio today, he is in politics.— today, he is in politics. of course the monitor _ today, he is in politics. of course the monitor remains _ today, he is in politics. of course the monitor remains politically i the monitor remains politically neutral but that's different to saying thatjust like his mother there is a real engagement with a different politics of each of the nations of the united kingdom and in many respects it's that continuity that has a real contribution to protecting the union, perhaps the monarch's is more respectful of that than some politicians, dare i say, because there is a different politics in scotland, wales, northern ireland than in england and the king will be mindful of that and will be respectful of that in terms of how he operates. you will be respectful of that in terms of how he operates.— of how he operates. you are absolutely — of how he operates. you are absolutely right, _ of how he operates. you are absolutely right, laura, - of how he operates. you are - absolutely right, laura, because it's a very different political time, across the united kingdom, and there we can see the queen consort camilla talking to vaughan gething, who was pivotable during the covert pandemic here —— the covid pandemic here. pandemic here -- the covid pandemic here. _, ., . , , ., here. the economics minister and we've seen _ here. the economics minister and we've seen a _ here. the economics minister and we've seen a few _ here. the economics minister and we've seen a few members - here. the economics minister and we've seen a few members of - here. the economics minister and we've seen a few members of the i we've seen a few members of the welsh cabinet who during covid were elevated in terms of their profile because they were making decisions on day—to—day matters that affected the people of wales so much more well known in welsh public circles. under very different political situation in wales and it's worth describing this to our viewers across the uk and around the world of how wales is now politically compared to when her majesty the queen opened the senedd building in 2006. i queen opened the senedd building in 2006. “ queen opened the senedd building in 2006. 4' , ., ., 2006. i think there is no real comparison- _ 2006. i think there is no real comparison. if _ 2006. i think there is no real comparison. if you _ 2006. i think there is no real comparison. if you go - 2006. i think there is no real comparison. if you go back i 2006. i think there is no real comparison. if you go back a | 2006. i think there is no real- comparison. if you go back a little bit further, to 1999 when this institution was established as a national assembly then, it had very few powers. it merely had powers over the secondary legislation. now it's a fully fledged parliament with primary lawmaking powers. it controls aspects of taxation and scrutinises the welsh government, so the status of the senedd is really entrenched in welsh public life now and i'm sure the king will be respectful and mindful of that because this institution is very much part of the fabric of the new wales. �* ~' ., much part of the fabric of the new wales. �* ~ ., ., wales. one thing i'd like to mention as well, wales. one thing i'd like to mention as well. laura. _ wales. one thing i'd like to mention as well, laura, we _ wales. one thing i'd like to mention as well, laura, we are _ wales. one thing i'd like to mention as well, laura, we are very - wales. one thing i'd like to mention as well, laura, we are very much i wales. one thing i'd like to mention as well, laura, we are very much in| as well, laura, we are very much in the heart of bute town, wales' most multicultural part of our country, our gorgeous country, and how wonderful that at llandaff cathedral todayit wonderful that at llandaff cathedral today it was a multi—faith service and that is also a sign of how wales is changing both politically and culturally. i is changing both politically and culturall . .. is changing both politically and culturall . ~' is changing both politically and culturall . ~ , , ., culturally. i think so, yes, and where we _ culturally. i think so, yes, and where we are _ culturally. i think so, yes, and where we are now _ culturally. i think so, yes, and where we are now is _ culturally. i think so, yes, and where we are now is right - culturally. i think so, yes, and where we are now is right in i culturally. i think so, yes, and i where we are now is right in the heart of multicultural wales, and i think one of the really important aspects of this fantastic building has been its inclusivity. it was designed as such by lord richard rogers, of course, and it was meant to bring the communities and the people of wales together. we have a circular debating chamber, the only one of its kind in the united kingdom, which was meant to create a less confrontational environment, and i think that notion of equality and i think that notion of equality and inclusivity runs through the fabric of everything that we are trying to instill in our welsh democracy. figs trying to instill in our welsh democracy-— trying to instill in our welsh democracy. trying to instill in our welsh democra . r , democracy. as you can see, the king there talking — democracy. as you can see, the king there talking to _ democracy. as you can see, the king there talking to plaid _ democracy. as you can see, the king there talking to plaid cymru's - there talking to plaid cymru's representative and taking time, laura. i representative and taking time, laura. .. representative and taking time, laura. ~' h, representative and taking time, laura. ~' . representative and taking time, laura. ~ ., ., �*, , laura. i think so and that's very important _ laura. i think so and that's very important to — laura. i think so and that's very important to show _ laura. i think so and that's very important to show that - laura. i think so and that's very important to show that the - laura. i think so and that's very i important to show that the king understands the pivotal role that these politicians play in affecting these politicians play in affecting the lives of the people of wales. the senedd and the welsh government has authority over education, over health, over transport, has authority over education, over health, overtransport, over health, over transport, over economic health, overtransport, over economic to, agriculture, so everything that's touches the lives of the most people are scrutinised here in the senedd under significant change, i move away from the centralised westminster sense to a devolved system and that's entrenching itself now in the minds of the most people as well. aha, entrenching itself now in the minds of the most people as well. a quick word if i may _ of the most people as well. a quick word if i may go — of the most people as well. a quick word if i may go back— of the most people as well. a quick word if i may go back to _ of the most people as well. a quick word if i may go back to the - of the most people as well. a quick word if i may go back to the motion of condolence, the fact the king talked about her majesty and how she held wales very close to her heart was yellow i think most people recognised that. the queen attended every single one of the official openings of the senedd or the national assembly. this openings of the senedd or the national assembly.— openings of the senedd or the national assembl . �* , ., national assembly. as we mentioned earlier she came _ national assembly. as we mentioned earlier she came to _ national assembly. as we mentioned earlier she came to the _ national assembly. as we mentioned earlier she came to the opening - national assembly. as we mentioned earlier she came to the opening of. earlier she came to the opening of this magnificent building as well so as there was no question in the queen's mind and her allegiance to welsh culture, her understanding of the distinctiveness of our language really played a part in that.- really played a part in that. we've talked about _ really played a part in that. we've talked about political— really played a part in that. we've talked about political life, - really played a part in that. we've talked about political life, but - talked about political life, but also, wales has very much changed as also, wales has very much changed as a country in general terms, laura, from when the prince of wales was made prince of wales? bier? from when the prince of wales was made prince of wales?— from when the prince of wales was made prince of wales? very much so. if we look back _ made prince of wales? very much so. if we look back to _ made prince of wales? very much so. if we look back to the _ made prince of wales? very much so. if we look back to the 1960s, - made prince of wales? very much so. if we look back to the 1960s, there i if we look back to the 1960s, there were very few artefacts, if you like, of a welsh state, whereas most of those are now very present and very visible. there is a civic society and a civil society with organisations that train their interests on a rant about wales and we might have a fairly young democracy here in wales but it's one that's growing up pace and gaining more confidence and belief in itself is a distinctive part of the fabric of the united kingdom. find is a distinctive part of the fabric of the united kingdom. and also what is ke , of the united kingdom. and also what is key. we've — of the united kingdom. and also what is key, we've heard _ of the united kingdom. and also what is key, we've heard this _ of the united kingdom. and also what is key, we've heard this throughout i is key, we've heard this throughout the morning and the afternoon, is the morning and the afternoon, is the king knows wales, he has got his house in wales, and he knows the institutions and the way welsh people think and of course he is completely au fait with the workings of the senedd.— of the senedd. yes, i think that's ri . ht. of the senedd. yes, i think that's right- the — of the senedd. yes, i think that's right. the prince _ of the senedd. yes, i think that's right. the prince of— of the senedd. yes, i think that's right. the prince of wales - of the senedd. yes, i think that's right. the prince of wales as - of the senedd. yes, i think that's right. the prince of wales as wasi right. the prince of wales as was served for a long time in that role of course and had very close allegiances with a whole range of wales institutions and some of that of course has already been put in train for the new prince of wales, prince william. prince william is a patron of many organisations in wales including the welsh rugby union and i think that apprenticeship is very important for his engagement now with the next phase of this work. i think it's fair to say too, jason, the announcement of prince william as prince of wales wasn't met with complete acceptance by the people of wales. some people feel that that was inappropriate in terms of timing. but nevertheless i think we wait to see now whether prince william follows in the same footsteps as his father did in that role. , r, , footsteps as his father did in that role. , .,, ,, footsteps as his father did in that role. , role. yes, as you say, constitutionally - role. yes, as you say, constitutionally it - role. yes, as you say, constitutionally it was i role. yes, as you say, - constitutionally it was never a given, but how inevitable do you think it was in reality, laura? the prince of wales _ think it was in reality, laura? iia: prince of wales title think it was in reality, laura? i““ia: prince of wales title itself has no official constitutional status but i think it was fairly clear that this would be bestowed on prince william. i think the timing might have surprised a few people, as it was done very quickly, of course, but i think if you look at prince william's own engagement with wales, it gives you a fairly strong steer that this was going to happen. he was based in and is more with his wife and small child when serving with the welsh raf and has been involved in most institutions, not as long an apprenticeship as his father had in that role but let's see now what happens next. in fact durin: see now what happens next. in fact during that — see now what happens next. in fact during that motion _ see now what happens next. in fact during that motion of— see now what happens next. in fact during that motion of condolence i see now what happens next. in fact during that motion of condolence the king mentioned that the now prince of wales has a deep affection also for wales, of wales has a deep affection also forwales, given of wales has a deep affection also for wales, given the time he spent working at valley.— working at valley. yes, i think that's right — working at valley. yes, i think that's right hand _ working at valley. yes, i think that's right hand prince - working at valley. yes, i think| that's right hand prince william came to wales during thejubilee celebrations and has always actively engaged with welsh organisations, so i think there was a degree of inevitability about that title being bestowed on prince william. the first minister _ bestowed on prince william. the first minister mark drakeford said on bbc radio last week, now is not the time for public debate. those debates will happen, won't they, laura, in the forthcoming days? i think they will, we are in a period of mourning and we must be respectful and that's what the people of wales would want but i think the debate about the monarchy andindeed think the debate about the monarchy and indeed about the title prince of wales will happen and i think it's right that it happens because we are a mature democracy now. we want people's voices to be heard. there will be different opinions on this, of course, and they should be heard, but i think that happens after this period of respect for mourning for the queen. just period of respect for mourning for the queen-— period of respect for mourning for the queen. . , ., ,., ., ., the queen. just how important would ou sa the queen. just how important would you say this — the queen. just how important would you say this visit _ the queen. just how important would you say this visit has _ the queen. just how important would you say this visit has been _ the queen. just how important would you say this visit has been at - the queen. just how important would you say this visit has been at the - you say this visit has been at the heart of welsh democracy today? i think it's been significant. i think just displaying some of the distinctive characteristics of our nation, which of course is an ancient nation but with a new democracy, showing that we have two official languages here, some of the culture and music of wales and the status of this institution i think it's important notjust within wales but for the rest of the united kingdom, because sometimes we can be seen as the invisible part of the united kingdom and today has been about showing why and how wales is different. find about showing why and how wales is different. �* ., ,., , about showing why and how wales is different. �* ., , , ., about showing why and how wales is different. �* ., , ., different. and also, whilst you are lookin: at different. and also, whilst you are looking at these _ different. and also, whilst you are looking at these magnificent - looking at these magnificent pictures inside the senedd, i can tell you what this beautiful day here in the heart of cardiff bay that the crowds are still here watching on big screens, seeing the king, and also there was a huge round of applause for him once he delivered that speech in the senedd. yes. it was impromptu, people were watchin: yes. it was impromptu, people were watching and — yes. it was impromptu, people were watching and broke _ yes. it was impromptu, people were watching and broke into _ yes. it was impromptu, people were watching and broke into applause. i watching and broke into applause. there is a natural affection for the king because the people of wales know him from his role as prince of wales. it will be interesting over time to see if it's cements as solidly as it did for queen elizabeth. the crowd today have come to see the historic occasion, the new king's first visit to our nation. it new king's first visit to our nation. , .. , new king's first visit to our nation. , ~ , ., , new king's first visit to our nation. , ., , . nation. it is key many children were brouaht nation. it is key many children were brought across _ nation. it is key many children were brought across from _ nation. it is key many children were brought across from penarth - nation. it is key many children were brought across from penarth and i brought across from penarth and other schools inside the city centre to witness this historic moment. yes, i think so. i think the children will want to see the new king and queen consort and understand that this moment is a symbol of a new dawn in terms of the monarchy�*s relationship with wales. absolutely. interestingly, people are not leaving. ila. absolutely. interestingly, people are not leaving.— are not leaving. no, i think they are not leaving. no, i think they are waiting _ are not leaving. no, i think they are waiting to _ are not leaving. no, i think they are waiting to see _ are not leaving. no, i think they are waiting to see the _ are not leaving. no, i think they are waiting to see the king - are not leaving. no, i think they| are waiting to see the king leave the senedd building. i think at the moment the king is talking to some other assembly members... i moment the king is talking to some other assembly members. . .- moment the king is talking to some other assembly members... i think it is julie other assembly members... i think it isjulie morgan- _ other assembly members... i think it is julie morgan. yes, _ other assembly members... i think it is julie morgan. yes, deputy - is julie morgan. yes, deputy minister. — is julie morgan. yes, deputy minister, and _ is julie morgan. yes, deputy minister, and the _ is julie morgan. yes, deputy minister, and the sport - is julie morgan. yes, deputy minister, and the sport and | is julie morgan. yes, deputy - minister, and the sport and culture minister. he is spending quite a lot of time with them, clearly to hear their views and two i am sure accept their views and two i am sure accept their condolences on the loss of his mother. we have four parties represented here, iam not mother. we have four parties represented here, i am not sure people in the rest of the uk know that. there are four parties. we have a cooperation agreement between two, plaid cymru and labour. we have a different kind of politics operating. i am sure the king would want to meet as many of them as he can. ~ , ,., y want to meet as many of them as he can. ~ , ,., , , ., want to meet as many of them as he can. absolutely. let us not forget the kina can. absolutely. let us not forget the king is _ can. absolutely. let us not forget the king is very — can. absolutely. let us not forget the king is very familiar _ can. absolutely. let us not forget the king is very familiar with - can. absolutely. let us not forget the king is very familiar with this| the king is very familiar with this building because he attended all of the official opening is with her majesty. the official opening is with her ma'es . . , .. majesty. that is right. thinking back to 23 _ majesty. that is right. thinking back to 23 years _ majesty. that is right. thinking back to 23 years ago, - majesty. that is right. thinking back to 23 years ago, the - majesty. that is right. thinking back to 23 years ago, the first | back to 23 years ago, the first opening of the first national assembly as was, we saw her majesty the queen with prince philip and prince charles attend and looking at documents that have since emerged, it was against some of the advice they were given because the model of devolution we had in 1999 was not as strong as the model in scotland. the fact her majesty chose to attend was a very important decision on her part as well because it showed the legitimacy of every part of the uk and particularly the legitimacy of a very fledgling institution which of course has changed out of all recognition in the last 20 years. would you say that has grown in the past five years laura? 25er would you say that has grown in the past five years laura?— would you say that has grown in the past five years laura? very much so. we know it — past five years laura? very much so. we know it has _ past five years laura? very much so. we know it has only _ past five years laura? very much so. we know it has only been _ past five years laura? very much so. we know it has only been called - we know it has only been called senedd, the welsh word for parliament, in the past two years, reflecting a significant change in authority. this institution makes its own laws, collects its own taxes, scrutinises the finance and policy of welsh government and therefore touches the lives of every single welsh citizen. that is very important and i think a significant move from the very mature democracy we had back in 1999. == move from the very mature democracy we had back in 1999.— we had back in 1999. -- the very immature _ we had back in 1999. -- the very immature democracy. _ we had back in 1999. -- the very immature democracy. it - we had back in 1999. -- the very immature democracy. it looks i we had back in 1999. -- the very. immature democracy. it looks like the royal party will be heading off very shortly. queen consort camilla talking to a few more members of the senedd before departing. it really feels very, very respectful moment. i think so. i think it is an important moment because it is so soon after the death of her majesty the queen, a very sombre environment, but also people wanting to see a new era with king charles iii taking the throne. this to see a new era with king charles iii taking the throne.— iii taking the throne. this is an 11-year-old — iii taking the throne. this is an 11-year-old who _ iii taking the throne. this is an 11-year-old who attends - iii taking the throne. this is an 11-year-old who attends a - iii taking the throne. this is an | 11-year-old who attends a local ii—year—old who attends a local primary school, waiting by the door ever so patiently, well done. to present the queen consort with a p°5yr present the queen consort with a posy, as the royal party leave, bringing the formal elements of today's visit to a close. applause magnificent building at senedd cymru, welsh parliament. now an opportunity for the king to meet some of the local school children. yes, and i am sure he will be very keen to pay tribute to the young people particularly who have stood here macro for quite a few hours. they did indeed.— they did indeed. waiting very atientl they did indeed. waiting very patiently to — they did indeed. waiting very patiently to see _ they did indeed. waiting very patiently to see a _ they did indeed. waiting very patiently to see a glimpse - they did indeed. waiting very patiently to see a glimpse of| they did indeed. waiting very i patiently to see a glimpse of the king and queen consort. they will want to pass on their condolences and also wish him all the best in his new role.— and also wish him all the best in his new role. ., ~ i. , . his new role. thank you very much, laura. diolch. _ laura. diolch. jason and laura, thank you very much indeed. pretty in—depth analysis of some of the changes that we have seenin some of the changes that we have seen in the political structures in wales, reflected in this royal visit. very different type of element of the visit that we saw earlier at the cathedral, but some things do not change. he is now going out to meet some schoolchildren. cheering applause outside the senedd. i have to say, i have covered developments here for many years, huge crowd, something that you were struck by. i think this is a historic moment in a very real sense because look at the size of the crowd, i do not think i have seen a crowd, i do not think i have seen a crowd of that size and i think it is a reflection of this moment where it is so public. a reflection of this moment where it is so public-— a reflection of this moment where it is so ublic. ,, ,., is so public. seeing something never seen before- — is so public. seeing something never seen before- i— is so public. seeing something never seen before. i also _ is so public. seeing something never seen before. i also think— is so public. seeing something never seen before. i also think it _ is so public. seeing something never seen before. i also think it is - seen before. i also think it is historic in another sense. i thought the speech was not only fascinating because of its use of the welsh language, alternating, but also, the fact there was a continuum offered. when he talked about the prince of wales, for example, he did not say, edward the first is prince of wales, he went back earlier, he talks of the princess of wales before the conquest. the princess of wales before the con . uest. the princess of wales before the conauest. , .., . ., the princess of wales before the conauest. , . ., , conquest. the significance of this, not au fait with _ conquest. the significance of this, not au fait with welsh _ conquest. the significance of this, not au fait with welsh history, - not au fait with welsh history, going back to the native welsh princes defeated by the english, of course, and since then, the prince of wales has been in the gift of the english monarch to give.— english monarch to give. strictly s-ueakin , english monarch to give. strictly speaking, prince _ english monarch to give. strictly speaking, prince william - english monarch to give. strictly speaking, prince william would l english monarch to give. strictly l speaking, prince william would be the 23rd, starting with edward the first�*s son. many people say, that was not the first prince of wales, there were lots of earlier ones. this is almost the first time i have heard someone say, there is a continuum going back to pre—conquest and that will raise interesting debates. , , ., debates. interesting bit of history. to brina debates. interesting bit of history. to bring you _ debates. interesting bit of history. to bring you in. — debates. interesting bit of history. to bring you in, kim, _ debates. interesting bit of history. to bring you in, kim, there - debates. interesting bit of history. to bring you in, kim, there we - debates. interesting bit of history. i to bring you in, kim, there we see the king again meeting the public, we talk about the change in political structures in wales, some things do not change from the days you were an mp, labour still the dominant force in welsh politics, an indication, another use of the word continuum. to what extent do you think the welsh public, their relationship with the royal family, how much has changed over the years? i don't think it has changed a great deal at _ i don't think it has changed a great deal at all~ — i don't think it has changed a great deal at all~ i— i don't think it has changed a great deal at all. i am old enough to remember, sitting on my father's when _ remember, sitting on my father's when the — remember, sitting on my father's when the queen and the duke of edinburgh on the coronation tour went_ edinburgh on the coronation tour went past— edinburgh on the coronation tour went past and people were applauding and waving in great numbers. i think we have _ and waving in great numbers. i think we have got— and waving in great numbers. i think we have got to differentiate between the way _ we have got to differentiate between the way most people in wales feel about— the way most people in wales feel about this — the way most people in wales feel about this whole business of the relationship with the royal family and the _ relationship with the royal family and the way in which the political class _ and the way in which the political class feels about it. and the professors of history, and those who comment— professors of history, and those who comment on— professors of history, and those who comment on this sort of relationship. they are fascinated by this, is— relationship. they are fascinated by this, is it _ relationship. they are fascinated by this, is it a — relationship. they are fascinated by this, is it a continuum or isn't it? the _ this, is it a continuum or isn't it? the way— this, is it a continuum or isn't it? the way most _ this, is it a continuum or isn't it? the way most people feel is... there is also _ the way most people feel is... there is also great — the way most people feel is... there is also great affection. let the way most people feel is. .. there is also great affection.— is also great affection. let us -ause is also great affection. let us pause and — is also great affection. let us pause and reflect. _ is also great affection. let us pause and reflect. you - is also great affection. let us pause and reflect. you can i is also great affection. let us - pause and reflect. you can almost hear a bit of interaction going on. the familiar scenes with the mobile phones. no gifts this time. he was handed a variety of gifts in llandaff. there you go, you get a sense of the crowd. we are in cardiff bay, on the southern tip of the city. the new political institution. been there forjust over 20 years. as mentioned already, the queen, more often or not accompanied by as he then was the prince of wales for the official opening. with both of you, get a sense of the future of how william will now approach the role of the prince of wales because he talked about it in his address in welsh, talked about the love william has for wales. talked about the love william has forwales. kim, kicking off talked about the love william has for wales. kim, kicking off with you, now we have a prince and princess of wales, a modern couple on the world stage. aha, princess of wales, a modern couple on the world stage.— on the world stage. a power couple on the world stage. a power couple on the world stage. a power couple on the world _ on the world stage. a power couple on the world stage, _ on the world stage. a power couple on the world stage, very _ on the world stage. a power couple on the world stage, very famous i on the world stage, very famous people now. very new people. in the public eye, in so many ways. don't forget, prince charles, as was, now his majesty the king, he has been there for a very, very long time and inherited a great deal of the politics of the late 1960s and 1970s and all of that controversy. this new couple, they are very, very different. in a way, i can see that continuing that everyone has been talking about, but also, it is a new page entirely. talking about, but also, it is a new page entirely-— talking about, but also, it is a new page entirely-_ l- talking about, but also, it is a new page entirely._ i think i page entirely. absolutely. i think there is an _ page entirely. absolutely. i think there is an important _ page entirely. absolutely. i think there is an important difference i there is an important difference because — there is an important difference because when king charles was prince of wales, _ because when king charles was prince of wales, he was the heir to the throne, — of wales, he was the heir to the throne, therefore he had a role as heir to _ throne, therefore he had a role as heir to the — throne, therefore he had a role as heir to the throne. william and kate have not— heir to the throne. william and kate have not been in the position, therefore _ have not been in the position, therefore they have had more freedom to develop— therefore they have had more freedom to develop their personas, to make their presence felt on a much wider scale _ their presence felt on a much wider scale. therefore, they have had quite _ scale. therefore, they have had quite a — scale. therefore, they have had quite a normal life, some people would _ quite a normal life, some people would say, — quite a normal life, some people would say, when he was working in the services... something king charles— the services... something king charles did not actually have. to that point. — charles did not actually have. to that point, they associate themselves perhaps with the way a lot of— themselves perhaps with the way a lot of people live in the way members of the royal family don't. i think that _ members of the royal family don't. i think that will prepare him better for it _ for it. cheering 0k, we have got some final goodbyes to the large crowd outside the welsh parliament. cheering and again, this glorious sunshine, royal car leaves the senedd. applause on that point, i would like to thank you, sir deian hopkin, kim howells, both of your contributions this afternoon, thank you very much indeed. now the next stop for the royal party is cardiff castle, originally a roman fort built and famously extended by one of the wealthiest men in the world at the time, coal baron 3rd marquess of bute who engaged the architect william burgess to design his ideal castle. at the castle for us this afternoon, my colleaguejennifer jones. afternoon, my colleague jennifer jones. , , , , , jones. yes, this castle is steeped in 2000 years — jones. yes, this castle is steeped in 2000 years of— jones. yes, this castle is steeped in 2000 years of history - jones. yes, this castle is steeped in 2000 years of history and - jones. yes, this castle is steeped in 2000 years of history and it i jones. yes, this castle is steeped i in 2000 years of history and it was right here six days ago when the wales herald proclaimed charles the new king and today this castle in the heart of the welsh capital will honour and welcome the new monarch. there will be echoes of queen elizabeth ii's first visit to cardiff castle shortly after her coronation in 1953. today feels like just such a historic day. it all started relatively noisily here at cardiff castle this morning with a royal gun salute fired by reservists from 104 regiment royal artillery. following that, they opened the castle gates and visitors and well—wishers flooded in, all eager to welcome the royal party. we spoke to welcome the royal party. we spoke to those at the front of the queue who arrived at 4:45am this morning. slightly colder than they were expecting but they stuck it out to be the first in through the gates and into the castle grounds. i don't know if you can see behind me, the regimental band of the royal welsh entertaining the crowds for the last hour. there will be a god of owner when they arrive made up of young cadets —— a guard of honour. following that very moving service at llandaff cathedral and the more formal events at the senedd, it is expected the proceedings here will be a little bit more relaxed and personal. the king will hold a private audience with the first minister mark drakeford and the llywydd presiding officer elinjones and that will be followed by a reception where the king and queen consort will meet representatives from local charities, from the prince of wales's charities and the queen's patronage us and they will meet faith leaders of all faiths from across wales. a slightly more informal relaxed feel at the castle. the royal party will make its way up st mary street, thousands of well—wishers lining the streets. we cannot see them yet, obviously, but we will keep an eye out and let you know as soon as they get here. thank ou. a know as soon as they get here. thank you- a sense — know as soon as they get here. thank you- a sense of _ know as soon as they get here. thank you. a sense of the _ know as soon as they get here. thank you. a sense of the final— know as soon as they get here. thank you. a sense of the final chapter i know as soon as they get here. thank you. a sense of the final chapter of i you. a sense of the final chapter of their visit in wales of the new king. some of the grand old streets, st mary's street, and inside the castle, it's a magical place, it could be the setting for a film or a drama, and someone who would know only too well is my next guest, the actor owen teale. good afternoon, great to see you, thanks for coming in. ., ., ., great to see you, thanks for coming in. ., ., . tell great to see you, thanks for coming in.— nu l in. thanks for having me. tell us, ou have in. thanks for having me. tell us, you have a _ in. thanks for having me. tell us, you have a relationship _ in. thanks for having me. tell us, you have a relationship with i in. thanks for having me. tell us, you have a relationship with the i you have a relationship with the king, you've known him a number of years. how did it come about as yellow it still sounds very strange when you say i have a relationship with the king. a friendship. yes. with the king. a friendship. yes, with the king. a friendship. ia: no, ijust mean he is still a bit of a surprise to me and i'd like to thank you, the bbc and everyone for giving me this chance to say diolch a gallon —— diolch o galon, to his majesty, in their roles as the prince of wales. we met some time ago at the royal shakespeare company. i was a member of the company and prince charles as was was president, still is, i think, i'm not sure how that changes, of the company, and the play was henry iv part one, which takes on the story of the prince of wales and how his wayward life is changed by becoming king, and so there was some sense of, i don't know, prophecy, but i'm not really sure, but he definitely said to me on occasion, how did he know, how did shakespeare know how this would feel? there was insight that he wasn't really prepared for and how he loved that. and from that we, over the years, have spent some wonderful times discussing poetry, performance, and he has asked me to be part of that and very much with the story of, it was the 100th birthday of the dylan thomas and i was doing under milk wood on a nationwide tour and i was invited tojoin him because he had chosen fernhill, a wonderful poem by dermot —— by dylan thomas, to commemorate this wonderful occasion, but the point was, he was going to be the one recording it, not me, so i've done many times where i'd go along to venues sing for my supper, and on this occasion i had to come to clarence house and come in through the back, through the warm offices, then into the cold house is famously he doesn't like the central heating and the windows open, and i was deeply grateful because i tend to get a bit overheated, and with that i am in a sitting room, you know, his sitting room, and i'm fully loaded with a cup of tea and cucumber sandwich and i'm very, very happy, and he has put me at my ease, he is so kind as we are watching him greeting people, his empathy, and at that moment i realised, no, i'm not going to have to perform, you are. what if this is terrible? this could go so wrong. he what if this is terrible? this could go so wrong-— what if this is terrible? this could uuosowron. ., ., , ., go so wrong. he was going to perform for ou? go so wrong. he was going to perform for you? yes. — go so wrong. he was going to perform for you? yes. he _ go so wrong. he was going to perform for you? yes, he said, _ go so wrong. he was going to perform for you? yes, he said, i'd _ go so wrong. he was going to perform for you? yes, he said, i'd better- go so wrong. he was going to perform for you? yes, he said, i'd better do i for you? yes, he said, i'd better do it, and for you? yes, he said, i'd better do it. and then — for you? yes, he said, i'd better do it, and then he _ for you? yes, he said, i'd better do it, and then he said, _ for you? yes, he said, i'd better do it, and then he said, i— for you? yes, he said, i'd better do it, and then he said, i could - for you? yes, he said, i'd better do it, and then he said, i could do i for you? yes, he said, i'd better do it, and then he said, i could do it. it, and then he said, i could do it in a welsh accent, i said, no, sir, please, don't do that, then i noticed he was twinkling. it was that wonderful humour you've heard people talking about. he was putting me at my ease. he was wonderful. he did it, isaid, that gives me at my ease. he was wonderful. he did it, i said, that gives me such on did it, i said, that gives me such joy because it's a poem that is overwrought and often done to the hilt and there he was, in his own way, it was broadcast on radio four. i respect his bravery, it must have been intimidating to perform in front of you. aha, been intimidating to perform in front ofyou— been intimidating to perform in front of you-— been intimidating to perform in front of you. a welsh actor, yes. and we can _ front of you. a welsh actor, yes. and we can now— front of you. a welsh actor, yes. and we can now see _ front of you. a welsh actor, yes. and we can now see the - front of you. a welsh actor, yes. and we can now see the king's i front of you. a welsh actor, yes. i and we can now see the king's car going through the centre of cardiff. no doubt a part of the world you will know well, owen.— will know well, owen. yes, for different reasons, _ will know well, owen. yes, for different reasons, really, i will know well, owen. yes, for different reasons, really, yes! | will know well, owen. yes, for i different reasons, really, yes! more pubs, i would different reasons, really, yes! more pubs, iwould imagine. i different reasons, really, yes! more pubs, iwould imagine.— pubs, iwould imagine. i don't know the geography _ pubs, iwould imagine. i don't know the geography here. _ pubs, iwould imagine. i don't know the geography here, a _ pubs, iwould imagine. i don't know the geography here, a lot _ pubs, iwould imagine. i don't know the geography here, a lot of- pubs, iwould imagine. i don't know the geography here, a lot of people i the geography here, a lot of people will have gone to cardiff to visit the principality stadium or the millennium stadium as it was, this is the main street thatjust runs parallel to that, very compact city, the castle, the rugby stadium, all within a matter of yards of each other. sorry to bring in the cliches of the welsh there, but great scenes here, owen, isn't it? it of the welsh there, but great scenes here, owen, isn't it?— here, owen, isn't it? it is, look at these people. _ here, owen, isn't it? it is, look at these people, that _ here, owen, isn't it? it is, look at these people, that is _ here, owen, isn't it? it is, look at these people, that is what - here, owen, isn't it? it is, look at these people, that is what he i here, owen, isn't it? it is, look at these people, that is what he can| here, owen, isn't it? it is, look at. these people, that is what he can do and they do is bring focus to people and they do is bring focus to people and with that, as i say, there is this great sense of empathy that he has with the people. iitrut’e’ii this great sense of empathy that he has with the people.— this great sense of empathy that he has with the people. we'll hear from ou in a has with the people. we'll hear from you in a minute. _ has with the people. we'll hear from you in a minute, as _ has with the people. we'll hear from you in a minute, as he _ has with the people. we'll hear from you in a minute, as he enters i has with the people. we'll hear from you in a minute, as he enters the i you in a minute, as he enters the castle let's go back tojennifer jones. yes, nick, the royal party isjust arriving. let's have a quick word with colin jackson, arriving. let's have a quick word with colinjackson, a son of cardiff, a historic day for your home city. cardiff, a historic day for your home city-— cardiff, a historic day for your homeci . ., home city. it's a massive day for us, home city. it's a massive day for us. especially — home city. it's a massive day for us, especially with _ home city. it's a massive day for us, especially with the _ home city. it's a massive day for us, especially with the national. us, especially with the national anthem just beginning. national anthem plays cheering well, now, she is therefore the arrival of the new king at cardiff castle. there is a large crowd here, they are obviously very excited to see him. it’s they are obviously very excited to see him. �* , , they are obviously very excited to seehim. h , , ,, see him. it's very impressive, the amount of— see him. it's very impressive, the amount of people _ see him. it's very impressive, the amount of people who _ see him. it's very impressive, the amount of people who have i see him. it's very impressive, the l amount of people who have turned see him. it's very impressive, the i amount of people who have turned out and been waiting for some time. there's been a really good positive vibe, as you look around there so many people from all walks of life here and really enjoying and celebrating this occasion. well, the kin . celebrating this occasion. well, the kim and celebrating this occasion. well, the king and the _ celebrating this occasion. well, the king and the queen _ celebrating this occasion. well, the king and the queen consort - celebrating this occasion. well, the king and the queen consort have i celebrating this occasion. well, the i king and the queen consort have been received by the vice lord lieutenant of south glamorgan, brooke boothby, and they are being introduced to representatives and civil leaders from cardiff city council, the councillor hugh thomas, the leader of cardiff city council, the chief executive of the city council, paul orders, and the manager of cardiff castle, chris hadfield. cheering now, the lord lieutenant is expected to escort the royal couple into the castle apartments. well, colin, lots of cheering, lots of clapping, people are clearly very excited to welcome the new monarch. is this what you expected from cardiff? , , .,. , is this what you expected from cardiff? , , , ., cardiff? this is exactly what i was ho - inc cardiff? this is exactly what i was hoinr for cardiff? this is exactly what i was hoping for from — cardiff? this is exactly what i was hoping for from cardiff, _ cardiff? this is exactly what i was hoping for from cardiff, we i cardiff? this is exactly what i was hoping for from cardiff, we are i cardiff? this is exactly what i was| hoping for from cardiff, we are the capital city, the eyes are on is that this particular moment and the royal family has residents across this planet so you can see it's a really important opportunity for the city of cardiff council and break the fact that our new monarch has arrived but like there are dozens of people waiting inside the castle apartments, eagerly awaiting to meet king charles and the queen consort. you have met them several times, you are a cbe, obe, mbe, an impressive list. what's it like to meet senior men's of the royal family? it was alwa s a men's of the royal family? it was always a pleasure. _ men's of the royal family? it was always a pleasure. they _ men's of the royal family? it was always a pleasure. they always i men's of the royal family? it was. always a pleasure. they always had men's of the royal family? it was i always a pleasure. they always had a smile on their face. always a pleasure. they always had a smile on theirface. their always a pleasure. they always had a smile on their face. their energy and enthusiasm really was a very positive for me and i may —— i myself received my obe hear from king charles himself when he was prince of wales and that was such an exciting moment because he spent so much time with us after the award, just to chat, so he was very much a normal, everyday person. you just to chat, so he was very much a normal, everyday person.— just to chat, so he was very much a normal, everyday person. you met the queen for the — normal, everyday person. you met the queen for the first _ normal, everyday person. you met the queen for the first time _ normal, everyday person. you met the queen for the first time when - normal, everyday person. you met the queen for the first time when you i queen for the first time when you werejust 22. i queen for the first time when you were just 21— queen for the first time when you were 'ust 22. .,, ., , i. ., were 'ust 22. i was really young and i'd were just 22. i was really young and i'd literallyiust _ were just 22. i was really young and i'd literally just finished _ i'd literallyjust finished representing wales at the commonwealth games and i was awarded the mbe, so to meet the queen for the mbe, so to meet the queen for the very first time, as you can imagine i was very nervous as a young man. imagine i was very nervous as a young man-— young man. you are telling me earlier she _ young man. you are telling me earlier she always _ young man. you are telling me earlier she always put - young man. you are telling me earlier she always put you i young man. you are telling me earlier she always put you at i young man. you are telling me i earlier she always put you at ease and made you laugh a lot. fin and made you laugh a lot. on numerous _ and made you laugh a lot. ©“i numerous occasions, i rememberat and made you laugh a lot. ©“i numerous occasions, i remember at a private lunch and she had i was leaving buckingham palace and heading down to brixton and she asked me where i was left and i said to her, i'm heading to brixton now, and she said, it's going to be a bit of a culture shock now, leaving buckingham palace and going there, i was, like, you are right, always made me smile.— was, like, you are right, always made me smile. one extreme to the other and your _ made me smile. one extreme to the other and your relationship - made me smile. one extreme to the other and your relationship with i made me smile. one extreme to the other and your relationship with the l other and your relationship with the new king, how many times have you met him? {in new king, how many times have you met him? ., , ., , met him? on numerous occasions because he _ met him? on numerous occasions because he is— met him? on numerous occasions because he is a — met him? on numerous occasions because he is a huge _ met him? on numerous occasions because he is a huge sports i met him? on numerous occasions because he is a huge sports fan, i because he is a huge sports fan, you've got to remember that. his father was really passionate about sport, so what was exciting that he has really ta ken sport, so what was exciting that he has really taken that mantle on in his own way. has really taken that mantle on in his own way-— his own way. colin, don't go anywhere. _ his own way. colin, don't go anywhere, hopefully - his own way. colin, don't go anywhere, hopefully we'll i his own way. colin, don't go i anywhere, hopefully we'll come his own way. colin, don't go - anywhere, hopefully we'll come back to you later on. that's all from the castle for now, back to you, nick. owen, we heard from colinjackson that the king loves sport but his friendship with you, he loves the arts as well, doesn't he? istern;r friendship with you, he loves the arts as well, doesn't he? very much, es, in arts as well, doesn't he? very much, yes. in my — arts as well, doesn't he? very much, yes, in my experience _ arts as well, doesn't he? very much, yes, in my experience he _ arts as well, doesn't he? very much, | yes, in my experience he understands and has a great passion for theatre and has a great passion for theatre and what it does in its role in society, that it's where we go to find ourselves, to see ourselves, whether it's by entertainment, by comedy, or really at the heart of it is where we see each other and he is devoted. ., ., , ., ~' is where we see each other and he is devoted. ., ., , ., ~ , devoted. how do you think he will be askin: ? devoted. how do you think he will be askinu? i devoted. how do you think he will be asking? ithink— devoted. how do you think he will be asking? i think he _ devoted. how do you think he will be asking? i think he will— devoted. how do you think he will be asking? i think he will continue i devoted. how do you think he will be asking? i think he will continue as i asking? i think he will continue as we see now _ asking? i think he will continue as we see now in _ asking? i think he will continue as we see now in his— asking? i think he will continue as we see now in his great _ asking? i think he will continue as we see now in his great belief i asking? i think he will continue as we see now in his great belief in l we see now in his great belief in what the monarch can do and that will be a wonderful thing, as i say, to be present, to bring focus to things that are deserving and whilst doing that to have great empathy with the people he leads. do doing that to have great empathy with the people he leads.- doing that to have great empathy with the people he leads. do you see him as a moderniser, _ with the people he leads. do you see him as a moderniser, or— with the people he leads. do you see him as a moderniser, or a _ with the people he leads. do you see him as a moderniser, or a continueri him as a moderniser, or a continuer of traditions? i him as a moderniser, or a continuer of traditions?— of traditions? i think there will be both. i of traditions? i think there will be both- ithink— of traditions? i think there will be both. i think he — of traditions? i think there will be both. i think he realises - of traditions? i think there will be both. i think he realises his i of traditions? i think there will be | both. i think he realises his place, he's had a long time to prepare for that transition which is now fully under way and i think he has hit the ground running and he has started as he means to go on. i think the thing today, the amount of wealth he spoke at the senedd, was wonderful —— the amount of welsh he spoke at the senedd promote was wonderful. fiwen senedd promote was wonderful. owen teale he obviously _ senedd promote was wonderful. owen teale he obviously took _ senedd promote was wonderful. owen teale he obviously took on _ senedd promote was wonderful. owen teale he obviously took on the tips from you when he performed that poem in front of you in very good advice in front of you in very good advice in terms of the speeches and addresses he shall do in future as king, of course, owen teale, thank you very much indeed for your time. that is the end of a momentous week across the nations, king charles and his queen consort now spend the next few hours in wales within the privacy of the castle apartments. today, the people of wales have had the chance to witness a prince becoming a king. goodbye. harp music music king charles visits wales for the first time since coming to the throne. in bright sunshine, crowds of well—wishers lined the streets of cardiff to greet the king and the queen consort. god save the king! it is the final stage of the king's tour of the four nations of the united kingdom. the land of wales could not have been closer to my mother's heart. roedd lle arbennig i gymru yn ei chalon. this is the scene in westminster hall where tonight the king willjoin his sister and brothers in standing vigil at the coffin of their mother, the late queen. we're closed now.

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