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it may be a little bit grey and gloomy first thing but it looks single reaches number one. like for most of us there will be once again some strong april sunshine on offer. good morning. it looks like another dry day for most parts of the uk. it it's saturday april the 25th. our top story. a huge drop in the number of patients seeking urgent treatment may be a little bit grey and gloomy for conditions unrelated to coronavirus is fuelling concerns that serious problems are being missed. the nhs is launching a campaign to encourage anyone with health concerns to seek help as the number of a&e patients fell by half in the last month. first here'sjon donnison with the latest. much of the fight against covid—19 it's saturday april the 25th. our top story: a huge drop has been about trying to keep people in the number of patients seeking urgent treatment for conditions safe and out of hospital. unrelated to coronavirus is fuelling concerns that serious problems are being missed. but today the nhs is encouraging the nhs is launching a campaign to encourage anyone with health people not to be afraid concerns to seek help as the number of seeking treatment for non—coronavirus conditions. of a&e patients fell by half it could cost lives. in the last month. we'll be getting reaction from the gp sarahjarvis, who has been warning of this we've known for a long time potential problem for weeks. we'll also talk to the medical director of nhs england, and there have been many campaigns professor stephen powis. first, here's jon donnison with the latest. in the past about the number of people going into a&e or contacting much of the fight against covid—19 their gp when they did not have to be seen and i am very surprised. has been about trying to keep people i never expected in my professional safe and out of hospital. but today lifetime to be saying the opposite. it comes as figures from public health england show the nhs is encouraging people not to the number of people going to a&e be afraid of seeking treatment for over the past month is down around 50% compared non— coronavirus conditions. it with the last period last year. that's1 million fewer visits. comes as figures from public health england showed the number of people we are here for going to a&e over the past month is non—coronavirus patients too. so if you're worried about chest pain, maybe you might be having down around 50% compared with the a heart attack or stroke, same period last year. that is1 or you feel a lump or you are million fewer visits. we are here worried about cancer, for non— coronavirus patients too. or you're a parent concerned so if you are worried about chest about your child, please come forward and use the health service pain, maybe you might be having a in the way that you normally would. heart attack or a stroke, or you it's going to be better to sort feel a heart attack or a stroke, or you feela lump, oryou those problems out now rather heart attack or a stroke, or you feel a lump, or you are worried about cancer, or you are a parent than leave them for later. concerned about your child, please come forward and use the health service in the way that you normally meanwhile, the new government website on which key workers would. it is going to be better to and theirfamilies can book coronavirus tests reopens this morning, after it was inundated sort those problems out now rather than leave them for later. meanwhile with requests yesterday. almost 50,000 people in england tried to book a testjust hours the new government website on which after the website was launched. key workers and their families can book coronavirus tests reopens this 16,000 people did manage to get morning after it was inundated with a drive—through appointment requests yesterday. almost 50,000 or a home testing kit. in terms of the number of people people in england tried to book a dying, figures released yesterday test just hours after the showed 768 more reported coronavirus people in england tried to book a testjust hours after the website was launched. 16,000 people did deaths in the uk since the day before. manage to get a drive—through appointment, or a home testing kit. it takes the total number in terms of the number of people to more than 19,500. dying, figures released yesterday it could well reach 20,000 today and because that does not include deaths in care homes show that showed 768 moore reported or the community, the realfigure is likely to be much higher. coronavirus deaths in the uk than the day before. it takes the total number to more than 19,500. it could well reach 20,000 today. and because let's talk to our political correspondent nick eardley in our london newsroom. that does not include deaths in care nick, a number of newspapers are carrying stories homes or the community, the real suggesting they have some idea of figure what relaxing the lockdown might be. they were angels on earth and now what is the situation? the government has been careful so far not to go to into the specifics of how the lockdown might be lifted in england. slightly different in england. slightly different in england and wales were the first they were angels on earth and now ministers have been talking about it. the uk government wants to stick they are angels to its message just it. the uk government wants to stick to its messagejust now, the it. the uk government wants to stick to its message just now, the stay at home message but we are kind of they are soulmates, getting some hints about what it might look like. about how social—distancing will become a much bigger part of our lives, perhaps that's obvious. 0ne bigger part of our lives, perhaps that's obvious. one thing that we do know that the government is looking let's talk to our political at is how to get sport back up and correspondent, nick eardley, in our london newsroom. nick, a number of newspapers are carrying stories running. behind closed doors but about the easing of lockdown getting things like the premier restrictions, including when and how premier league football might return. how might that work? league back on the airwaves to get some resemblance of normality over 0fficials officials in the government are looking at the idea that games could the next few weeks. that could be played behind closed doors. there happen pretty soon, potentially as soon as would be a bunch of restrictions in happen pretty soon, potentially as soon as next month. the government says it's looking back to that —— place, players would have to be tested and things like that, but the looking into that and wants to make it happen although there would be idea is it would get some elements things like tests brought in for of normality back to normal and give players and minimum standards to us of normality back to normal and give us all something to do on a saturday make sure those taking part were safe. attract such an important part afternoon. as i say, it would only of what politicians are saying is what they are told by sage, the be behind closed doors, there is no realistic prospect of stadiums scientific advisory group for emergencies. independent, the advise opening any time soon but the government is hoping it can get this government and then decisions are up government is hoping it can get this up and running in the next few weeks provided it can meet some pretty taking, questions about who is part strict criteria. of sage? that's right. it's made up that aside, we were also talking mostly of scientists but we have about government meetings and government has often said it is found out that dominic cummings who is the prime chief political adviser following the scientific advice, that's where its policy is coming from, but there is the scientific has been taking part and some of the advice group that meets, conference calls. number ten said independent, but concerns about who that not particularly controversial. is also in attendance when those meetings happen. this is sage, the it's to make sure the pm's team know exactly what's going on and they can scientific advisory group for emergencies, and as the name help where necessary. there have suggests, it is made up largely of been some concerns raised about scientists, some of those we see in whether that means politics is also pa rt whether that means politics is also part of these conversations. about daily press conferences discussing the latest day and evidence when it whether it's completely scientific comes to the fight against when it comes to that advice. we had coronavirus. some controversy that nhs england talking about this the pm's chief adviser, dominic cummings, has been listening in on those meetings. number 10 say he is morning, that it's a scientific group and its those experts who are being listened to. number ten not a member, it's not like he goes to all of these meetings, but now insisting that it is still taking they are on zoom, he will sometimes that scientific advice at face value but as i say, some slightly dial in to make sure the number 10 tea m dial in to make sure the number 10 team are totally across what's going concerned that the political voices on. that's because lots of taking part in those calls too. controversy and some are suggesting thank you. that by having some of the pm's advisers on that group, it loses a leading disinfectant manufacturer has issued a strong warning not to use its products on the human independence and rather than just being about the science and telling body, after president trump suggested that coronavirus patients could be treated with injections the prime minister and all his other of the chemical. ministers about what scientists mr trump has since said that he made link, it will also have potentially the comments "sarcastically". he refused to take questions some political input. number 10 are at yesterday's white house press briefing, after his suggestion saying that's not the case but a bit was widely criticised and ridiculed. of controversy. thanks for taking us the belgian government has announced through that, see you soon. a detailed plan to gradually lift coronavirus restrictions. all shops will be allowed to re—open the us president donald trump is facing a continued backlash over his suggestion that coronavirus patients could be treated from the 11th of may and children with injections of disinfectant. he ended his latest white house news will return to school conference without taking any the following week, questions from journalists, but with a maximum of ten after he was widely condemned for the remark. students per class. yesterday, mr trump insisted nearly 7,000 people he was being sarcastic have died in belgium. when he made the suggestion. that's europe's highest death rate 0ur north america correspondent per head of population. david willis reports. president macron has promised to support french restaurants through the coronavirus crisis, thank you, mr president. thank you saying they represent part very much. and it would not, they of "the art of being french". we re very much. and it would not, they were gone. a daily press briefing which routinely stretches over 2a he held a video conference call with figures from the hospitality industry, including celebrity chefs hours over in 22 minutes. donald — some of whom have start to offer takeaway services. it is not yet clear when businesses trump's reluctance to face further will be allowed to reopen. questions seemingly a response to getting through lockdown means a lot the backlash over comments made to of people are getting closer the backlash over comments made to the co—ordinator of his coronavirus to their neighbours. task force the day before. and i see the disinfectant knocks it out in a and if your neighbour happens be to a professsional musician, you could be in for a treat. minute. 0ne the disinfectant knocks it out in a minute. one minute. and is there a way we can do something like that, this is the violin soloist by injection, inside, or... almosta alexandra conunova cleaning. because you see, it gets treating her neighbours to a rather in the lungs and it does a special performance in the town tremendousjob. it will in the lungs and it does a of lausanne, in switzerland. tremendous job. it will be interesting to check. that prompted a torrent of ridicule and condemnation, government officials warning of the health problems that ingesting household disinfectant could cause, and a stark reminder from mr trump's democratic rivaljoe biden, "don't drink bleach". president trump hasn't said he wasn't being serious, even though he appeared so at the time. wasn't being serious, even though he appeared so at the timelj wasn't being serious, even though he appeared so at the time. i was asked appeared so at the time. i was asked a very sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about i would love that. those neighbours disinfectant on the inside. but it must be in rapture. does kill it, and it would kill it here's helen with a look on the hands. meanwhile, more than at this morning's weather. 50,000 people here have now died from the coronavirus, but in georgia we have had weather where you could be standing on a balcony if you're and some other southern states, lucky enough to have won?” hairdressers, tattoo parlours and nail salons have already started to be standing on a balcony if you're lucky enough to have won? i wasjust thinking my 11—year—old isjust reopen. despite warnings from health about to have her violin lesson over social media and she is pretty good officials that it is too early for them to do so safely. but not as good as that. the belgian government has announced a detailed plan to gradually weather—wise, we have got some fog lift coronavirus restrictions. all shops will be allowed to reopen around this morning, really quite from the 11th of may and children grey and gloomy if you are, this is will return to school the following week, but with a maximum of ten pembrokeshire. but also across many students per class. nearly 7,000 people have died in belgium. eastern areas. signs of changes in that's europe's highest death rate the settled pattern of weather this week, still plenty of sunshine and per head of population. necessary it looks away while ago in the coronavirus pandemic is likely shropshire. this is a satellite to be the most expensive event picture this morning. this is the in history for the insurance industry, according to the boss extensive low cloud we have, grey of lloyds of london. initial estimates from the association of british insurers suggest it could cost £1.2 billion. intellectually and gloomy. some of that low cloud across the south and the government says it's encouraging insurance firms to do everything they can to support west coast of england and wales. at struggling companies. our business correspondent this time of year, the sunshine is as strong as it is in august so that will lift and melt that cloud. it katie prescott reports. will lift and melt that cloud. it will take a couple of hours so that is the change in yesterday but once it gets to work it will reveal the sunshine for most places as we go like so many businesses, this clinic in cheshire has seen its revenue into the afternoon. cloud bubbling fall 20 since the lockdown. they had up into the afternoon. cloud bubbling up in the south and our producer shower and there's an outside risk bought business interruption of the north and west but for most it's dry with some sunshine once insurance to pay out if they ever again and it will feel pretty warm. had to stop trading. but their claim temperatures above—average for this for closure due to be coronavirus time of year but not as high as they was rejected. it is a bit galling to we re time of year but not as high as they were yesterday for example and it realise that we have, over the will feel a little bit cooler in the yea rs, realise that we have, over the years, spent over £10,000 in insurance, which wasn't valid. and north coast of northern ireland. when we finally came to claim, we changes afoot but not for the we re when we finally came to claim, we were told we can't. i think all pollen, we are entry pollen season businesses thought that they had at the moment. it is high for many inoculated themselves by buying this parts away from the north of insurance, and they have found that scotland. through this evening and this financial vaccine doesn't work. overnight i mention the chance of a shower. that still with us for the south—western wales. this low sonia rishi's now empty clinic. she had a business interruption policy which close to closure —— due to pressure is approaching the north of scotla nd pressure is approaching the north of scotland so an increased chance of contagion. her insurer is disputing showers here and a largely her claim is coronavirus was not frustrating night what it will be directly on her premises. we have called a crusty sangria within a paid a premium, always paid it on degree or two of freezing particularly time, have done the right thing, there is a clause in that document which is, in my view, really clear. this pressure approaching from the north will drop the temperatures. it i think we're going to close. without that payment, we can't continue. the bbc has been inundated will feel colder as time goes on with emails from business owners tomorrow and the showers will be sonia who feel unfairly treated by heavier tomorrow. across northern and western parts of scotland and their insurers. the treasury select don't forget i talked about some of committee of mps and the financial the showers and central areas, they watchdogs are all looking at this issue. but insurers argue that this will tend to reactivate tomorrow with the warmth and there could be sort of cover widely available and affordable for people would require some showers, even thunderstorms government subsidies, given the scale of the unprecedented around. disruption that it has caused. most it's hard to believe that it's just business interruption policies, that two weeks since captain tom moore most businesses have up and down the first appeared on bbc breakfast. country, are very much designed to protect them from standard things like fire and flood. they are not designed to cover, and they were not at that stage he was aiming to raise priced, either, to coverfor a £1,000 for the nhs by walking global pandemic. insurance pay-outs a hundred laps of his garden. 15 days later, he's a household name for floods are already covered by a with a fundraising tally ofjust under £29 million and, government backed fund which all as of yesterday, a number one insurers contribute to. and the single under his belt. let's have a quick reminder of speculation that another such scheme can be created for pandemics. but that will not help those who are the captain's fantastic fortnight. looking for pay—outs today. the time 110w looking for pay—outs today. the time now is 11 minutes past six. we are going to bring you some sunshine this morning. the value go, the view story coming up. a 99—year—old war veteran outside our studios this morning. who has decided to walk 100 the sun is rising. we will get the lengths of his back garden. why did you decide to do this? weather a little bit later. there i know your deadline is your 100th birthday. why? i have had such marvellous service from the national health service. are times when being up early in the i think of the nurses. tom, we have got another morning and being able to see sites surprise for you. we have got a special guest with us. like that, and probably this morning, we will find out later in we have got michael ball with us the weather later on, but this may who i know whose company be replicated in quite a few places you enjoy very much. across the uk at the moment. it is a # walk on through the wind... glorious one. absolutely lovely. we will stick with the sunshine. the charity fundraiser # walk on through the rain... captain tom moore has become the oldest person ever to score a number one single in the uk charts, at the impressive age of 99. captain tom's birthday is on thursday, meaning he will still be number one when he turns 100. and we can say good afternoon to captain tom moore. the previous record—holder, hello! sir tom jones, was 68 when he topped hello, how are you? the charts with a 2009 cover lam good. ijust need to say congratulations of islands in the stream. because you are the uk's official number one. that really is truly captain moore, from one tom to amazing, isn't it? # you'll never walk alone.# another, congratulations on beating my chart record. if i was going to lose to anybody, it is an honour to have lost to you. for all that you've done raising money for the nhs. congratulations, all the best. we're joined now by captain tom moore and his daughter hannah, as well as the singer very gracious! we are going to be and broadcaster michael ball. talking to tom and hannah, his good morning everyone and captain, daughter, and michael ball later on in the programme. it's anzac day today, which has marked the sacrifices made may i on behalf of everyone watching by service personnel from australia and new zealand since the first world war. us congratulate you on your number this year's commemorations, however, one the single? thank you. i tell will look very different as a result of the coronavirus pandemic. phil mercerjoins us now from sydney to tell us more. you again how pristine you are looking each morning as you usually good to see you. it is not surprising to see you —— to see, is do but now to have such an honour and having michael on the programme, it, that so many commemorations and celebrations will look very different in 2020? this anzac day has been like no other for millions thatis and having michael on the programme, that is just absolutely mind blowing of australians and new zealanders. because he is such a magnificent many were up before dawn, marking singer and that record he produced this very sombre day on their has had such enormous benefits. i balconies, on their driveways, in very small groups that are socially say again thank you michael very, a cce pta ble very small groups that are socially acceptable distances away from each very much. captain tom, michael can other on the street, all large—scale events were cancelled. they were hear you. michael, how counselled quite a few weeks ago. very much. captain tom, michael can hearyou. michael, how are very much. captain tom, michael can hear you. michael, how are you doing? i'm overwhelmed. we spoke the national memorial service did ta ke the national memorial service did take place in the australian la st doing? i'm overwhelmed. we spoke last thursday or friday, had the capital, canberra. there were only a idea and here we are. tom has a handful of politicians and military numberone idea and here we are. tom has a vetera ns handful of politicians and military veterans there. that was broadcast number one record. it sort of the on national television. as for those perfect storm in the worst of times, people who gathered on their isn't it? it has been a beautiful driveways, they were listening to moment ina isn't it? it has been a beautiful radio broadcast of various services moment in a really difficult couple of weeks. and i'm so proud to be too. so australians and their kiwi just a tiny part of this. hannah, a- cousins across the tasman sea have had to be very adaptable during this to say to you as well because you time of crisis, during this time of have always accompanied captain tom covid—19. which is change the face whenever we have spoke to him so you of anzac day for millions of people. —— has changed the face. couldn't have imagined it would of anzac day for millions of people. -- has changed the face. lots of gather this momentum. you have been conversations here, phil, looking at the front pages of one lockdown on television all around the world, you have been helping and restrictions will ease in the uk. 0bviously restrictions will ease in the uk. obviously this conversation is happening all over the world. new communicating 41. how has it been? zealand and australia, significantly lower death rates? we never imagined our small family story that we shared because we knew we had something that we thought in australia we have around 6600 might bring everyone a bit ofjoy known cases of the new coronavirus, but never could we ever have 80 people have died across the tasman sea in new zealand. they know imagined we would embark on this journey which has been extraordinary for all of us and i speak on behalf about 11100 cases of covid—19, and around 18 people have died. some of captain tom and the whole family very severe lockdowns in new zealand who have remained humble by will be restricted from next week. everything that has happened around the world. if we can add a little in australia, the lockdowns vary bit ofjoy to everyone's lives and from state to state and we know in raise money at the same time, we new south wales, the most populous feel like we have done some good. state in australia, authorities have been very angry at many australians cani feel like we have done some good. can i ask, tom, what was it like using anzac day to go to the beach, doing that according? because you had to record the song that home. so some using anzac day to go to the beach, so some popular beaches have had to what was that like for you? —— doing be closed because too many people have been going down. it has been the recording? i have never had anything like that happen to me unseasonably warm here in eastern australia. its about 26 celsius before. michael's voice is so super. today, and the authorities are could anything be better than him slowly working their way through here in australia as to how and when and to be able to sing along with various restrictions will be lifted, him, that was really something. you such as when children can go back to could never imagine things like that school and when cafes and would happen. i will say this restau ra nts ca n school and when cafes and restaurants can be opened, but the process here is very slow because cautiously michael, what could be better than michael ball singing? authorities say they've got to get maybe it would be sir tom jones it right because they've seen what's happened in other parts of the world if the restrictions are lifted to singing? we have a little moment early, and that's a mistake and a here because sir tom has been situation both australia and new zealand don't want to be in. thanks talking about captain tom because very much, phil mercer. we know that the coronavirus sir tom jones had the previous is causing huge changes to the way record for the oldest person to have we live our lives, and that includes tight restrictions on the way a number one record. that has been we mourn the dead. funeral directors say that increased blown out of the water so let's hear demand and social distancing rules are making it harder than ever for them to care what this sir tom had to say. for grieving families. james waterhouse has spent time with one family, as they prepare to say captain moore. from one tom to another, goodbye to a loved one. congratulations on beating my chart record. if i was going to lose to anybody, saying goodbye to a wife, mother, it's an honour to have lost to you. for all you have done, sister and friend. tamsin sutton raising money for the nhs. congratulations. all the best. died three weeks ago from leukaemia. she was 52. she was always upbeat, how does it feel knowing tom jones a lwa ys she was 52. she was always upbeat, always there for other people, a lwa ys always there for other people, always had a smile even through all this. her funeral was expected to be is congratulating you ? how does it feel knowing tom jones is congratulating you? tom jones of family left you a message to say that you this. her funeral was expected to be offamily and this. her funeral was expected to be of family and friends but to day's service is very different. knocked him off the spot of the i'm sad it can't be a proper oldest person but he was happy to funeral. there's nothing i can do have been knocked off by you. what about it, i've got to put on the british stiff upper lip and get on would you say to him? tom jones, a with it. super welshman, you really have, you this funeral director's would normally conduct around 35 services we re super welshman, you really have, you were the top for so long, i am ever a week. now that's doubled. they don't believe the increase is all so sorry. were the top for so long, i am ever so sorry. we did not mean any harm down to covid—19, however, but its at all tom. you are still a super impact is clear. there are now tight restrictions on services and the tea m restrictions on services and the team feel a big reason for why they do theirjob as been taken away. singer. i have watched and listened to be told that first for your loved to you with pleasure. that's so one has died, second you can't lovely for you to say to him. i actually see them again and you don't think he minds to much. are you a tom jones fan? are you and the can't attend the funeral. in greenwich, there's five people allowed at tamsin‘s funeral — a familya you a tom jones fan? are you and the family a tom jones fan? yes, i have husband, greg, her mum, june, her a lwa ys family a tom jones fan? yes, i have always been a fan of tom jones. some sister and her sons, matthew and of them which have been going on for philip, but the rules differfrom council to council and can change a long, a number of years but i daily. uk governments have urged anywhere that holds involves the still absolutely enjoy those. i a lwa ys opportunity for mourners to attend, still absolutely enjoy those. i always listen, enjoy listening to evenin opportunity for mourners to attend, even in lockdown. as tamsin‘s family tom jones. michael, ice you're lay her to rest, they hope they will giggling there. it's $0011 lay her to rest, they hope they will soon be able to celebrate her life again once quarantine is over. james hearing captain tom talking about waterhouse, bbc news. and we'd like to say thank sir tom jones. hearing captain tom talking about sirtom jones. extraordinary hearing captain tom talking about you to gregg and the sutton family for inviting us to tell sir tom jones. extraordinary times. their story at such a personal they are and how long will it be and difficult time. until it is sir tom talking to sir it isa it is a point a lot of people are tom? tom has brought us so much making, because we are often on this focus and joy and something to feel programme and other news programmes proud about over the last couple of talking about numbers and statistics, and we are often very weeks and the record is still there. mindful that real people are behind you can still buy it and help raise every story and equally these money for the nhs charities. it's funerals, which are difficult at the just a brilliantly beautiful story moment, are part of that story, at this time. i love the bones of which we will try and tell. that man, i really do. and let's here's helen with a look at this morning's weather. have a chat about how this has been we showed you the view outside for you and the family. you have salford this morning, the sun is allowed us to share your affection rising, beautiful sunrise! i'm for tom. and i think everyone is salford this morning, the sun is rising, beautifulsunrise! i'm not sure if everyone is going to get it very grateful for that. you shared but looking at helen's screen, she what was initiallyjust going to be has a bit of fog in the background. a moment for you and the family and morning, helen. hello, good morning everything has changed so much. to you. everything has changed and as i said this is the view from one of our weather watchers, buxton in at the risk of repeating myself, we came up with a lovely family derbyshire, rather grey, rather misty and the mist and low cloud has familial idea and we knew we were rolled in from the east coast overnight and even though we have sharing something. we set out to dry weather this weekend, subtle share something but we really did changes and the increased chance of think it would just be a lovely showers and it is set to get cooler. local story. and once we saw you on because the pressure pattern over the uk is slack, all these changes will take place slowly. a little the friday and we spoke to michael area of low pressure to the south on the sunday, everything changed. and we as a family have tried to may spark showers today, we already have mist and fog here and a touch make sure we are giving as much back of frost in the scottish glens but to all of you and the british public this cloud on the chart is the misty and everyone around the world, as low cloud, thicker than yesterday, much love as we can back for all the so low cloud, thicker than yesterday, so grey and gloomy first thing and incredible support and graciousness low fog as well as fog over the we have had received.” hills but by lunchtime it will have incredible support and graciousness we have had received. i have to ask, tom, how did you celebrate when you turned back to the north sea coast and we will see sunshine. cooler on found out you were number one? and also i think you probably had two the coast but inland, not as warm as weeks of celebrations really. because you have your birthday on it has been, a bit cooler on the thursday coming up but you have had north coast of northern ireland today as we just start to feel the so thursday coming up but you have had so much to celebrate? when i heard effects of a northerly breeze. even about the number one i said hurray! so, the pollen levels are predicted to be high once again. there could be raina to be high once again. there could be rain a few showers in the south—west of wales through the afternoon into the evening and they will continue overnight. 0ne that's absolutely brilliant. how are you celebrating your birthday next afternoon into the evening and they will continue overnight. one or two, perhaps a few for the western isles, week? there were plans for a big increasing risk here and for the party with lots of family. that northern isles through the night as low pressure closes in from the can't happen now but i am hoping we north as well. quite a chilly night, will see you on your birthday and get to wish you happy birthday? we especially for east anglia, a couple of degrees from freezing here, but can't have the big family party we generally not as cold as it has we re can't have the big family party we were expecting, so what are your been. cooler by day because this low plans for your birthday?” pressure from the north will introduce more of a north, north—easterly breeze, so that's the were expecting, so what are your plans for your birthday? i think plans for your birthday? i think plans might be made for me, but i su btle north—easterly breeze, so that's the subtle change for tomorrow, just isolated showers for today but the think we will probablyjust have a chance increases tomorrow. plenty of very little local family party fine, dry, warm sunny weather in southern areas and the east coast because of course people cannot come from a distance and we will all have features more dominant but clearing. this line of showers becoming more to heat keep so far apart so i will sparky today than those in the have a lovely little party and maybe north. thicker cloud, deeper when everything is clear we can have instability and heavy showers, some thunder and cooler for scotland and a much bigger party. i'm sure a lot of people want that. tom, have you northern ireland tomorrow but still high levels of pollen at this time had many cards? i think that would of year, the tree pollen we are concerned about. subtle changes on the way but cooler air sets in be an understatement. the last count across northern ireland and scotland we had 90,000 cards and they are for the second half of the weekend and on monday, it will gradually filter south. everywhere will notice still coming in. it is actually over a gradual decrease in the temperatures. 20 or 21 in the 100000 and can we extend a huge south—east, but the showers feed in thank you to the volunteers, about a northerly breeze coming into the warm air with hefty showers once 60, opening the cards. they are again. there could be wintry over coming thick and fast, we thank everyone and may ijust say thank the tops of the scottish mountains, you for some cards that we have had but still approaching 22 in the to, we have all been crying. we south—east. you can see the contrast, a slow change to this picked outjust a predominantly settled spell towards to, we have all been crying. we picked out just a few of the most the end of april. back to you to. amazing one. this is from harvey, aged six who calls tom his hero. helen, thank you very much. tommy aged eight is making a time good morning, mike. saturday capsule and is putting his letter to morning. lots of stories around this tom in it. amelia put her pocket morning. lots of stories around this morning related to football and what might happen in the future. talk us money in, £10, she is aged nine and through what's been said. this one that made us sob all day is yes, you were hearing from nick early a little while ago about the from lloyd, aged seven who took the money from his box, 52 p. you can front page of the sun, its coming home, football is going to be back for too long. but before anything imagine what this is doing to us. restarts, the season, they would have to have something like three thank you very much everybody. weeks of training anyway, so this has to be treated with some caution 100,000 cards, thank you for doing because it's raising the hopes of football fans, it has been six long that. michael, you have been an emotional wreck and you watch that. weeks since the premier league finished, and a government source has told the premier league you helped do this. i absolute have. officials have been working hard to i have been a small part of it. a get back on the tv, including lovely idea. i had one goal which matches played behind closed doors was to make tom number one on his —— told the bbc. there's lots of 100 birthday and the people of this caveats. it won't happen before the country got behind him and made it next review of the lockdown on may the seventh, and the go—ahead would happen. and it isjust a beautiful depend on the government meeting its story. it's a beautiful story, they key five tests for easing those are such a lovely family. hannah is restrictions. they include seeing death and infection rates so consistently falling, and clubs are such a lovely family. hannah is so gracious and it is all good and would have to meet additional stop it i am going to get emotional. criteria including the regular testing of players and ensuring the you would be forgiven. have a lovely security and safety of staff. a government source said watching live day. i can see the sun shining sport on tv would give the country a behind you, enjoy that. i know you huge left. lots of parties keen for it to happen. love tom and will stay in touch and we will speak again. look after it's hoped royal ascot could still take place injune, as plans are being drawn up yourself. i will say goodbye because to resume horse racing. we have a little surprise for but it would be unlikely that spectators would be allowed captain tom miller as well. we have and the number of runners would be limited to 12 per race, with only seniorjockeys riding the veterans minister, johnny mercer to reduce potential injuries joining us now from plymouth. that would require medical treatment. captain tom moore, i will handover now, people are used to seeing joseph parker in the boxing ring — remember he fought anthonyjoshua tojohnny mercer. a couple of years ago — but the new zealander captain tom moore, i will handover to johnny mercer. captain tom moore, just a huge thank you for what you and former world heavyweight champion has become an unlikely star of the lockdown with his videos have done. it really is remarkable. on social media. i had a chat with him yesterday. my generation of veterans always looked to your generation, ina in a kitchen in new zealand, a star is born. but was this talent always particularly in recent wars. you have shown right into, i can't hiding injoseph is born. but was this talent always hiding in joseph parker is born. but was this talent always hiding injoseph parker and the rest believe you are 100 next week. if i of the world just didn't know it until it came out during lockdown? am in as good a shape as you at 100 i will be happy. we will do something to celebrate your i think with the boxing and talking birthday. you have done a remarkable toa i think with the boxing and talking to a lot of people and doing press thing for the nation. you have conferences and this and that, it's continued that spirit in that ethos that we all aspire to. just a huge given me confidence within myself and confidence to come out and thank you and i am in all of what myself and everything i've done leading up to this point has been... you have done. i hope tom can hear i thank boxing for it. some of that. if not can you pass that on for us? i will. do we have and now his talents have been unleashed, there is no stop him... time now? yes please. the veterans 0rthem. a choirof unleashed, there is no stop him... 0r them. a choir ofjoseph parkers minister has said how extraordinary ina carshowing you are and everyone is looking up 0r them. a choir ofjoseph parkers in a car showing a level of production and editing skills to you and if he is as good a shape involved in the movies, while it's as you at 100 he will be very happy also bringing his family closer. and commending you on the extraordinary work you have done imagine if! inspiring people around the world to also bringing his family closer. imagine if i did this before a fight, people would think he's do good things. that's very kind of mucking around and not taking this you to say that, thank you very much seriously but having this lockdown has given me time to build indeed. hannah and tom we will thank you for now, we will speak again, i relationships with my daughters, my partner, but also given me time to really hope we will speak to you be myself and also have fun. next thursday because it's a bit of his musical talents and his a moment. thank you very much. thank heavyweight cloud have persuaded parker to get his boxing rivals to you. that would be lovely. thank join in, but tyson fury didn't need you. that would be lovely. thank you. just lovely. you saw we have to much persuading. the first person johnny mercer there, the veterans minister. we will talk to him again but we want to highlight something to much persuading. the first person to agree and the first person to that has been happening. send me a video was tyson fury. we are very close friends but he's all about having fun and encouraging others and giving people to smile at first let's see this and have a laugh at, and all of us report by jj chalmers, who went to meet some of the 4,000 retired service personnel came together to achieve that goal. who answered the prime minister's plea for help. we must act like any wartime but when lockdown is over, parker, government and do whatever it takes who became heavyweight champion in to support our economy. so who better to ask to step up 2016, will be back in the ring and he's already challenged dillian than those that have already whyte to a rematch. i know we had a been to war themselves? great first fight, he won, he was the better fighter on the day but i enter team rubicon uk, noi the better fighter on the day but i no i can't beat him. i know he's a charity that asks armed forces veterans to help respond to natural chasing champion of the world but if disasters across the world. and now its efforts have turned no—one else wants to fight him, i'm on the uk's battle with covid—19. here, always keen and ready so i would love to have a rematch. after three years of civilian life, charles broadford stepped forward beyond that, parker wants to unify to serve his country again. the world heavyweight divisions, taking on the lights of tyson fury he's now leading operations at an nhs supermarket, or anthonyjoshua before at guy's and st thomas's hospitals taking on the lights of tyson fury or anthony joshua before he taking on the lights of tyson fury or anthonyjoshua before he retires. in london, handing out donated food that fight would be awesome, eve ryo ne that fight would be awesome, everyone wants to one person ruled to front—line staff so they don't the division and it's a no—brainer, have to face empty shelves it should happen, but it comes down at the end of their shifts. to everyone involved hopefully i was a quartermaster, coming to terms and make it happen. so i was involved in logistics, logistics management, on a bigger scale than this, to be honest. i mean, this is nothing and when parker does finally hang up compared to what has gone his gloves, will a career in the musical is back in and can he around, to be honest. what i've been asked to do actually sing? i wish i could, i can is minimal, organising a little supermarket. play the guitar, the piano, i'm going to the shops three or four times a day. learning the drums, i can play the albeit some long hours, every now and then, but nothing triangle, but i can't sing stop like these guys and girls. so my new superhero has a steely—eyed determination, normally a bit bloodshot, right what are you doing now? a bit of line across the hair, cleaning the car. a little bit of salt down the side of here, nothing wrong with singing while cleaning the car but i love how in some lines, more prominent than mine, i might add. but theirs is this because of masks lockdown all these new talents have come to light and also one of my and protection and ppe. over 4,000 veterans have signed up, favourite things is been the return of the green goddess, also diana but they estimate they could need as many as 40,000 to sustain the operation. moran. she has been helping to keep us fit they have delivered over one million and active over the last few weeks. items of ppe and assisted with the construction of london's here she is with another workout nhs nightingale and cardiff's dragon's heart hospital. to kick—start the weekend. good morning, everybody. well, here former army officer holli kimball is helping to lead a team of over 40 we are, another weekend, so we're veterans who are converting the vip going to do a short, sharp warm up suite at the principality stadium into a covid ward. this morning to get you ready to get i found that the communication out there to enjoy your weekend. i and leadership skills that the army start every day with this, my monkey training brought have made a massive stretch. feet a little bit apart and impact on my ability to lead teams, literally just end down stretch. feet a little bit apart and literallyjust end down and up and because it doesn't matter if you're stretch throughout the body. down we in rural mozambique or cardiff, 90, stretch throughout the body. down we go, up, stretch. it's such a good just being part of an organisation of such diverse individuals, feeling. it really re—energise is from all different walks of life, some with a military background you, re—oxygenates the body because you, re—oxygenates the body because you have to breathe quite deeply and and others from a completely different walk of life, stretch right the way through the and i found that bringing those together has been an amazing opportunity and is one of my favourite parts body. right, we've been taking some of being in team rubicon. as well as supporting the nhs, stresses and strains on our body they are also working in the heart over the last few weeks, and so of communities across the uk. former aircraft engineering officer let's just rid ourselves of some of stuart edmonson has helped to ensure that 22,000 vulnerable people the stress. that's it, just work in his county can still access food, medicine and other essentials. those shoulders, work the upper back. pull the shoulders back as you there are people out there who've run out ta ke back. pull the shoulders back as you take them back. that's really good. or are running out of food, and don't have, for various reasons, and breathe nice and deeply as family or friends' support. you're working out. and then just but the support that is already let's climb up as if we're climbing out there is massive. there are lots of volunteers out there. a rope to the heavens. up you go! they just need co—ordination, you know? there is that need to co—ordinate the huge swathes of wonderful that's it! lovely! working out the volunteers we have got out there. whole of the body again. that's the man behind the whole operation is former really, really good. and now, royal marines captain richard sharp. finally, let's stretch the body. so we are lucky that we have a cohort ta ke finally, let's stretch the body. so take a nice, deep breath and as you of people that walk towards trouble. they chose to do it when theyjoined breathe out, over yugo. the military, they then did that as their paid career, and they've left, but they still want to do it. take a nice, deep breath and as you breathe out, overyugo. feel that stretch all the way down that side and yes, this is a very different situation, of your body. hold the stretches for we can't see the threat in the way that you can see a physical threat, about five to ten seconds. that's and we have to balance that risk. but at the end of the day, good. excellent. back to centre. if we don't do what we're doing, there are human beings in the uk who will suffer. take a nice deep breath again and as rich, you've worked you breathe out, up stretch and over with rubicon all over the world and you and i were in afghanistan. yugo. 0h, are we at war right now? this is like a war campaign because it's so relentless. you breathe out, up stretch and over yugo. oh, that's made me feel alive and it needs the level this morning. that's a really good of dedication and focus and other commitments that it takes feeling. just shake it out and then to fight operations abroad. you know what you've got to do — for those of us who are out there and all those organisations, keep fit and carry on! but of course, the nhs, i can't say enough about them, absolutely, this is as close to war as i hope to the uk will ever come to again on its own shores. so while the enemy in this war is very different, and the front line is much closer to home, the skills, it makes you feel so much better and experience and mindset needed you can even do it on your sofa to to tackle it is very similar. start the day. stay with us, headlines coming up. now let's go back to veterans ministerjohnny mercer, who is in plymouth this morning. there are two parts to this. i find it very moving. to see what all sorts of people, in this case vetera ns a re sorts of people, in this case veterans are doing to step up to help out. but these are people who have very practical skills that they can bring back into a different environment. can bring back into a different environment. iam i am trying to change the narrative about veterans and how much they contribute to this country whether there is a crisis on or not. team rubicon have absolutely stepped up and been hugely proactive in terms of reaching into local resilience forums and making sure, just quietly in the background, that is at resilience and bank of people with skills who can act and carry on in a crisis and use their logistical skills like you saw, the core master sergeant who is usually in charge of the stores in a military running a hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga supermarket in london, it is munchetty. good morning. fantastic, the veteran commitment to here's a summary of today's main this has been extraordinary, we have stories from bbc news. been trying to facilitate it as much a huge drop in the number as we can design the scenes and of patients seeking urgent treatment for conditions unrelated to coronavirus is fuelling concerns that serious problems yeah, it has been great to are being missed. contribute to the national effort. the nhs is launching a campaign to encourage anyone with health we are learning more about how the concerns to seek help, as the number of a&e patients fell military more generally is involved, because that is an ongoing thing,. by half in the last month. the official government guidance says that getting medical help is one of the four reasons people but, former people from the military also getting involved, there must be can safely leave home. quite a big pool of talent on whose services could be called upon look, a leading disinfectant manufacturer has issued a strong warning not to use its products on the human body, after president trump i have always tried to get across suggested that coronavirus patients the immense bonuses that come to could be treated with injections of the chemical. mr trump has since said that he made this nation from those who serve in the comments "sarcastically. " he refused to take questions the military and then obviously at yesterday's white house press leave, we spend a lot of time and briefing, after his suggestion rightly so anyway, looking after those and talking about those who have really struggled after service, was widely criticised and ridiculed. but the vast majority come out and they contribute so much to this the belgian government has announced nation, to society, to communities a detailed plan to gradually across the country and in times like lift coronavirus restrictions. all shops will be allowed to re—open this, you see it come to the fore from the 11th of may and children with people getting stuck in, will return to school the following week, but with a maximum of ten volunteering and that sense of duty students per class. and service that you saw in your nearly 7,000 people have died in belgium. film, people that could just be sat that's europe's highest death rate at home letting other people do it, are actually standing up, putting their name down and going and per head of population. getting stuck in and helping our heroes in the nhs and those on the front line of the crisis so it is the coronavirus pandemic is likely great to watch and we are the mod in to be the most expensive event in history for the insurance industry, according to the boss the office of veterans affairs are of lloyds of london. doing everything we can to initial estimates from the association of british insurers facilitate that national effort. suggest it could cost £1.2 billion. the government says it's encouraging now, sadly of course, one of the insurance firms to do everything things that the military is getting they can to support better and better at helping struggling companies. vetera ns better and better at helping veterans with its post—traumatic stress disorder, things that stay the charity fundraiser captain tom moore has become with them after they have done their you're watching time in the military, lots of people breakfast from bbc news. time now for a look at the newspapers. looking at nhs staff working on a let's look at the front pages. very different kind of front—line, concerned about the impact on them. are there lessons, are there things that have been learned, again interesting to look through the pages today. there are a number of crossing over of skills? yes, absolutely there are and actually i stories about captain tom. we are have had meetings this week and we delighted to say he is on many of have had meetings this week and we have talked about how we take some the front pages this morning. he of the lessons we have learned about along with michael ball number one continually exposing people to a level of trauma that they are not on the charts. his hundredth used to on operations and how we can birthday is on thursday next week. that'll be quite an occasion. he is learn those lessons and impart and going to be 100 years old that he help our nhs colleagues with that and actually, charities like help will be number one on his birthday. the heroes who have a bank of it is an amazing thing. a couple of knowledge built up over many years lines from the papers. as it is and have opened up all their told, time to get back to work. resources to the nhs so it really is scientists tell us this lifting of the lockdown could get under way by a team effort and there will the lockdown could get under way by the middle of may. we are trying to get clarity on this without undoubtedly be a mental health challenge after this period and i political correspondence this morning, because a number of the think we know so much more about it, papers appear to have different we are so angles on the same story, which is think we know so much more about it, we are so much better configured to meet a mental health challenge then to with when and if things will be we are now from when we were ten yea rs we are now from when we were ten years ago, we all work together, we returning to any kind of semblance of normality. well, we're going to have all come through this, life be talking tojonathan ashworth from will return to normal, hopefully we the labour a bit later. we can put can learn lessons and be better configured to deal with this in that to him, what the labour party future if we need to. thank you for would consider doing. it is also on yourtime, future if we need to. thank you for your time, veterans minister speaking to us there. the front page of the times, covid secure offices to get britain back to work, a treasury blueprint which you're watching breakfast. ease lockdown for staff, and it says we're on bbc one until ten o'clock this morning, when matt tebbutt takes over that trains will be almost full time again in three weeks. we'll be in the saturday kitchen. morning matt, what do talking about transport changes as well, when it comes to certain services like light rail. have views on that. this is something mike has you have in store today? (0s been covering this morning. another thing that could come back, this is is that good for you, are you making very speculative at the moment, the me uncomfortable? i'm looking at these words, i am desperate to read sun is cleaning it has an exclusive that there is a plan for the premier them. today our guest as mel league to be playing again. —— claiming. it could be behind closed doors, but it would be shown on giedroyc, good morning, how are you? television. and all games will be on lovely to be here, it is really nice tv because of course the grounds will stay shut. michael had a lot to be amongst folk isn't it? lovely. more on but a bit later on. and just looking on the front page of the i feel like i am there, i feel like daily mail, have we got that one? i'm right there in the room with yes, so, the daily mail, we will you. the head is massive now, i have to say. is it too big? that is much meet again, the minister ‘s plans. we at the bbc are not position to better. good to see you have your say this is part of any official pinny on, you have your gloves on, government guidance, but what is clearly happening as many of the you have add a bit of a rummage newspapers are, if you like, jumping through the cupboards haven't you?” ahead of the curve is talking about what those plans might be. we will have, i have also, this is very sad, try to get some clarity on a couple you can see i have been in lockdown these stories for you. professor for many weeks as we all have, i stephen pass from nhs england will be talking to us from a little later have alphabetised my spice rack. on this morning. we will try to get well, these are dark times. if that some clarity onjust on this morning. we will try to get some clarity on just what is being said, officially, in relation to some of these issues. yes, there has is entertainment. asked me for any been no confirmation of that. spice and i will know where it is. now it is time for a bbc news what ingredients did you find and special on coronavirus, with anita what do you want inspiration for? ok mcveigh. i have rooted in my cupboards and i have this little thing which was very cheap, 199 for all of this. it isa very cheap, 199 for all of this. it is a hot pepper paste, i have got too much ground coriander, never hello, and welcome to the special programme. i'm anita mcveigh. since know quite what to do with ground the start of this outbreak, scientists have been trying to coriander, my daughter makes face a nswer scientists have been trying to packs out of it, i don't know. answer the question, where did this virus come from? as the lockdown in the chinese city of wuhan has eased, mackerel. loads of tinned mackerel. forensic research is other investigators can restart their i went crazy on the mackerel, i do investigations into the origins of love macro. and customers. right, the virus. scientists say finding clues as to how it started is but not much of it? no, i thought i crucial to stop a similar crisis happening in the future, asjim reed had loads and loads but that was all reports. i could find this morning. will that be enough? am i going to be doing it for decades, there have been fears with you? you or no, you can do if that a global pandemic could be you like, you look like you are geared up for it. you're not good to caused by zoonotic transmission. that is a disease thatjumps from animals to humans. the more we interact with these new wildlife know. theo randall, good to have you species that we haven't done so, the here keeping me company. theo more roles of the dice we are randall, you are doing two dishes. throwing. the greater the opportunity there is for a pathogen to then jump into opportunity there is for a pathogen to thenjump into a human. in green that i am making spaghetti january, researchers published the genetic code of coronavirus. it using port. i am making spaghetti with pork cheek and tomato. and then shows a close match to a disease found in horseshoe buts in western china. they fly and roost in huge lam doing with pork cheek and tomato. and then i am doing a chicken, like a one put numbers, so easily spread disease. to wonder, a chicken leg roasted red but the level of virus and our body is low, which is why some think that this, the pangolin, or another potatoes and fennel with tomatoes animal, may have caught it and and thyme, a bit of white wine and i passedit animal, may have caught it and passed it on to other humans.“ finish off its out of their day. it animal, may have caught it and passed it on to other humans. if the virus has gone through an isa dish intermediate host, it is quite finish off its out of their day. it is a dish you put in the middle of a table and everybody helps himself. likely to change in some way, which delicious. 0llie, you are putting a may enable it to be easier to infect drinks trolley around at home today? a human being. how, then, could that my drinks trolley around at home today? my wine glass is alarmingly empty at the moment but we will put that virus spread to wuhan, a huge city right later on. last week, helen was of 11 million people? the first suspect was this place, a live surrounded by empty bottles. i will animal market at the first 41 hospital patients in wuhan, 28 had a be making pizza and speaking to the connection to this place. we think winner of masterchef. we will see the evidence is pretty compelling you at ten o'clock. i thought that an animal that was being sold in that market was infected with everybody alphabetised their spice this virus in fairly large amounts rack, personally. ido, everybody alphabetised their spice rack, personally. i do, why wouldn't and unfortunately, some of that you? the time now is 38 minutes past virus spread into humans quite rapidly, quite efficiently. but it is not clear—cut. even though there is not clear—cut. even though there is evidence of the disease, 13 of nine. the government's new website for tests for key those first 41 patients had no link workers in england and their families to the place. 0ne link is that who have symptoms of the coronavirus has opened again for covid—19 is the result not of a bookings this morning. but how does the test actually work? single virus, but often are virologist doctor chris smith joins combining. it may well be that the us now from cambridge. a ncestor of combining. it may well be that the ancestor of the current coronavirus how are you? i haven't alphabetised was in fact two different viruses that recombined in animal host stop my spice rack yet, i might do that it is an incredibly efficient way of today. you should have seen my face gaining new characteristics, new biological behaviours. the genetic drop at the thought that that someone drop at the thought that that someone hadn't done that, but we can talk about that another time. chris make—up of the virus makes it very smith, tell us about these new unlikely it was engineered deliberately by man. but there have tests, how the actual testing will still been persistent rumours it work. ok, the whole point of testing could have escaped from a laboratory accidentally. does that correspond is to tell people either whether they have got the infection right with what you have heard from officials? well, i don't want to say now or whether they have had the that, john, but i will tell you that infection in the past. the tests we more and more we are hearing the story. at the centre of the claims have had say whether they have a is this institution, a 30 minute drive from the market. it was studying infectious diseases. the test —— virus right now. we take a sample from the nose and throat and scientist in charge has said any what we are hoping to pick up is see accidental leak is impossible, and the us military has said it is more if there are sales there which have likely the virus was spread virus particles in them and those naturally. all these rumours, then, cells are busted open and the about how the virus started, how genetic information extracted, copied with the lab equivalent of a much of that is going to concern the chinese authorities?” photocopierfur copied with the lab equivalent of a photocopier fur genetic material and much of that is going to concern the chinese authorities? i think it is then we read the sequence of the important for beijing to manage it very carefully. china has to genetic information and if you read the sequence corresponding to the virus genetic code, you know it must be there. this tells you that the person is either just be there. this tells you that the person is eitherjust been infected protect, and the coronavirus clearly and is brewing up the virus concerns this, china's honour and infection, they are currently dignity. in china itself, that actively infected, or they are question of where this virus came coming down the other side of the from is a sensitive one. this month, hill, they are recovering but they have virus in them. lets pick up on scientists and there were told any how you have broken that down. it studies about its origin must first can tell you what stage of infection be cleared by the government. you are at? not very well. the controlling information about how the virus started, and why the amount of virus we recover can be an chinese government was not in a position to do something quicker indicator to how infectious someone is and a person who is recovering becomes very important. and for a will probably have a lot less virus than a person who is brewing up the 1—party system this means infection and has recently been infected and their symptoms are everything. but this is about more about to peak because we think when than just politics. it is about our about to peak because we think when a person is symptomatic, that the future. scientists agree that we amount of virus corresponds to the must better understand the origins intensity of the symptoms but it is of this virus to better protect not always a given so one can't rely ourselves from the next global on that 100% of the time but it pandemic. tells you you are infected and as the search for the origin of the potentially infectious, what it can't tell you is whether you had it virus continues at pace, so does three weeks ago. just on that, the another for virus continues at pace, so does anotherfor a virus continues at pace, so does another for a possible vaccine. virus continues at pace, so does anotherfor a possible vaccine. here amount of virus, how do you compare is the bbc‘s laura foster. every day it? surely, we all deal with the we're getting closer to having a vaccine can stop coronavirus. but it has to be safe and it has to work. virus differently, so we would have that doesn't happen overnight. what different levels, isn't that how it is related in terms of why some exactly is a vaccine? so, they are people are more sick than others when they get it? or it's not like a exactly is a vaccine? so, they are likea training exactly is a vaccine? so, they are like a training course for our body's immune systems. they necessarily a given but when we take ha rmlessly body's immune systems. they harmlessly show viruses or bacteria a sample of for instance blood. when we ta ke a sample of for instance blood. when we take a sample of blood, it is to our bodies. 0ur immune systems recognise them as an invader and much easier to standardise amateurs learn how to fight them. it means there, that is called the viral next time, when we encounter be load, you can say there is this much virus in this much blood and you can disease for real, our bodies already know how to fight it. what research make a direct comparison from one person to another. it is more difficult with respiratory samples is being done? the world health because of course, if you swap the 0rganization says more than 70 right place which is a hot spot different teams are currently working on a vaccine. it has quickly where the viruses, you might report lots and lots of virus there and if become the most important piece of scientific research in the world, you swap the place next to it, you might miss it and report a very low with some universities pausing other projects to work on it full—time. level, so one has to be very cautious when making these interpretations but they can be with trials being done with a number informative if you see lots and lots of animals, as well as in humans. of virus there, this is a strong pointer towards the fact that this will it be ready? scientists at the person almost certainly is infected and they are probably infected at a university of oxford have said it could be as early september 2020. high level and they are probably but that is if everything goes more infectious than someone who has a lower level, but it is not a given according to planet every single stage. if something goes wrong, that and you have to interpret this with can push everything back. most think caution. is a virologist, where do it will be more like a year, 18 you see the biggest benefit in months from now. so the second half people being tested ? of 2021. why so long? well, making you see the biggest benefit in people being tested? individually, it is pretty obvious, you have it, you isolate for seven days, but on a it manufacturing a virus takes a lot bigger scale, how is this of time. there is a lot we don't beneficial? well, in the short term, understand about this coronavirus. we have had a problem in some cases but we know it's genetic code. this code is like a blueprint. some where people have had to isolate scientists are lifting parts of it where people have had to isolate where either they or members of and combining it with an existing theirfamily have where either they or members of their family have had symptoms, which could be coronavirus virus to create something that looks infection, but they could be a whole like the coronavirus. the idea is this can then be given to animals or raft of other things, there are lots humans. 0thers of respiratory infections still this can then be given to animals or humans. others are injecting the raw around at this time of year that code straight into test subjects. produce very similar symptoms and when researchers think they have found something that works, it has you don't know which of those it is. to be tested again and again and a rapid test that tells a person again, and go through so many what the diagnosis is means that clinical trials to make sure it is they are either isolating along with theirfamily for a effective and that there are no they are either isolating along with their family for a good reason unintended side—effects. even after they are either isolating along with theirfamily for a good reason or it is not coronavirus and they can get back to business as usual as soon as that, you have to make this vaccine their symptoms have subsided. you ona that, you have to make this vaccine on a massive scale, and deliver and don't want to go out and infect distribute it to people all over the people with anything, let alone coronavirus, but once you're world. questions are still being symptoms are better, you can rest asked about how easily transmissible assure that it is not something that covid—19 is. a recent study in the will put you on the family out of business by a long period of time. us found that coughs and sneezes especially if you are a front line worker doing an essential job, outdoors by someone infected with especially if you are a front line worker doing an essentialjob, you can return to work more quickly and coronavirus may travel much further that means that workforce and than two metres, be who recommends therefore the general public and the whole effort against the virus we keep between us for effective benefits from that. longer term, we social distancing. —— the distance will need a different kind of test which the government are beginning to put in place, the building blocks the who recommends. so how safe is to put in place, the building blocks to do that, and that is an antibody test which will tell us whether or it to be exercising outdoors? michael fallon reports. much of our not you have had coronavirus, world is in lockdown, a movement because at the moment, a lot of our severely restricted. we are allowed estimates as to how many people have out for one form of exercise a day. had this, where it is bred to and what we are going to do to get out across the globe, countries have taken different approaches to of the present situation, they are exercise. in paris, authorities have based on destination. we are taking stopped exercise outdoors apart from how many cases we know have happened walking between 10am and seven p.m. because we have tested people or hammy people have ended up in hospital or died, and we are working backward saying, how many people do in spain, all exercise outside the home is banned, unless you have a we think had this to work out what dog, in which case you can take it we think had this to work out what we think had this to work out what for a walk. japan's prime minister we think the incident has been. with says it is ok to exercise outdoors antibody tests, because once you have bought this off and put as long as you are alone. and in antibodies into the bloodstream, they are like a flag, a market that australia, exercise is permitted in persists in the long term saying i your neighbourhood, and you are allowed to work out with one other have been exposed to this infection, person. scientists agree that spread so have been exposed to this infection, so they are there, it tells us that this person has caught, fought off, through droplets expelled when an recovered from an probably been made immune to coronavirus and therefore infected person coughs or sneezes. what they still don't know is how we can use that to indicate how wide easily the virus can spread through spread the infection is bin which is breathing. when we exercise, we inhale and exhale much more. so helpful in terms of the escalating a could you be putting yourself and lot down. briefly, just because others at risk from exercising there are antibodies present or outdoors? to help answer that immunity, there is still no firm question is professor bert broken. idea as to how long immunity lasts? he has been researching how droplets this is an important question to from your nose and mouth travel a nswer this is an important question to answer because if a vaccine is going during exercise. his research has to work, we don't want to be in a not been officially published in a position where we provoke people to journal yet, meaning other have lots of antibodies, but then scientists haven't evaluated it. can find that either the virus doesn't you tell us, professor brockman, what your research found? yes, our provoke enough antibody response for long enough to protect you again or the vaccine doesn't do that. at that moment, as far as we can tell, research actually looked into the social distance, the distance that people make a robust immune response you need to keep when you are when the fight to soften recover and running fast or cycling behind those antibodies persist. but another person. and we found that because we have only known about this virus for a matter of months, we only know whether the immunity persist for a matter of months as we two metres is plenty if you're cycling or running next to each follow people up, so those experiments are ongoing. there is other, or in single formation, more than enough. but if you are directly every reason to be optimistic that it will produce some degree of long—term protection, but an absence behind each other, or cycling behind of evidence that it doesn't do that is not the same as evidence that it each other, then the two metres is does, so we are having to do the not enough. tests to find out for sure whether you get long term and in the immunity because it is not a given. professor blochen's research suggests there is no wind in the air and when you exercise you have a you are always clear. thank you so slipstream that typically forms much doctor chris smith are taking behind you. if you came into contact us through that, take care. the time with droplets from an infected person, you could catch the virus. is 945, mike is here with the sport. professor blochen says exercising side—by—side or in formation is safer than walking behind someone. regular exercise is an immune like all football fans, there is booster. it protects you against a some excitement. this story on the whole load of chronic as easy as front page of the sun about football associated with chronic coming back sooner rather than inflammation, it's also thought to later. we understand the government help reduce the ageing of your is planning to set up the first immune system as well, and that all of a series of regular meetings, involving the senior medical makes a lot of sense with a lot of directors of major sports, the epidemiological evidence out this week, in a bid to return to action as soon as possible..now the move has been described there. it's a risk—benefit analysis, as a "quickening of the pace" so if you don't exercise you and intended to help sport resume increase your risk of getting a lot of diseases long—term. if you go within weeks if progress was made. outside, obviously you have the potential to be exposed to the virus that would include premier league matches being played behind closed doors. but at the same time, you are boosting your immune system so that is helping to protect you against but there are lots of caveats the virus. academics we've spoken to to any possible return. firstly, it won't happen before said there's no convincing that the next review of the lockdown, you're at a heightened risk from due on may the 7th. exercising outdoors, but research the go ahead would depend, on the government meeting its key into this pandemic is still in its five tests for easing restrictions. infancy. if you're going to exercise those tests include seeing outdoors, you shouldn't do so if you death and infection rates have a cough or a fever and you must fall consistentently. clubs would then have to meet additional criteria including observe the world health 0rganization guidance of keeping a the regular testing of players two metre distance from others. and ensuring the safety of staff. as muslims celebrate the holy month a government source said watching live sport on tv, of ramadan, summed as our expressing and they hope free to air tv, concern that the official advice about social distancing isn't would give the country a huge lift. reaching many in the community. our running 26.2 miles may fill you with fear — religion editor martin bashir has been speaking to one gp in greater but imagine taking on that distance, manchester in england to hear her atjust five years old. views about fasting, faith and that's what henry edwards decided to do, after the postponement whether public health messages are of this year's london marathon. getting through. the event was supposed to be with afternoon surgery over, doctor taking place tomorrow. but instead —a new type saima x bile is on the school run. of challenge, has been set up in it's place. she and her husband are key workers and at the start of ramadan, she we're joined now by henry and his mum katey from their says she is concerned about whether home in south wales. the government message on the coronavirus is getting through. the government message on the coronavirus is getting throughlj don't understand how it would get through to the muslim community, a lovely to see you. it is the 2.6 lot of the messaging coming out from challenge where we are all being the government is in english, it's on radio stations and tv channels encouraged to do something 2.6 times that they may not necessarily be or 26.2 times may be running round listening to or watching. even the the garden 26 times. well done to henry for showing us how it's done, letters we send out advising patients to steel themselves for 12 how has it been going? good! so have weeks are all in english. these are real, specific challenges that this you always been a good runner? yes. community in particular is facing. 46% of the muslim community lives in why do you love running? because i 10% of the most deprived parts of like it. how does it feel to be the uk, that surely plays a part. we also have increasing rates of famous because a lot of people are poverty, ill—health and we have a lot of the community doing more of following you there in south wales and you get recognised, there you the precarious roles, so they may be are look, i think you do 40 to 50 working as cleaners, bus drivers, minutes a day, that's incredible. frontline workers. a promotional video prepares british muslims for ramadan during the katie, tell us how it's going, how pandemic. no prayers at the mosque. far has he gone so far? so we are and without communal meals, iftars just about to set off on our ninth run. tomorrow, we will be going on like this one held in london last tenth run to complete 26 miles, so year that break the daily fast. it has been absolutely fantastic, it really has. we started off in the how significant is the gathering of 2.6 challenge raising money for a muslims together at that time? wish upon a star and we just wanted we found that actually people's to go round the block and do a perception of muslims in this little run and we just aimed at getting £100 and nanna and granddad country has improved through simply coming together to have a meal. for sponsoring etc and it isjust gone crazy. everyone in the family us, seeing the many thousands of stories we've heard from people who sponsored me. and it is quite a have come to our events have left heartbreaking family story about how you got started with the feeling more optimistic, feeling a sense of belonging, is incredibly fundraising? yes, sadly we lost my difficult to accept the fact that we will not be able to reach out to those in the same way. but the sister's son suddenly. before i was challenges of ramadan this year may born. we have been supported by to yet resent an opportunity. i'm always apprehensive about wish upon a star, a charity in fasting and will i be able to get wales, for a long time and it was through the day? how angry will i just a great opportunity to get get when i'm hungry? how much am i henry involved, to get outside in going to shout at the children? i lockdown and just to support the think the pandemic has actually brought me closer to religion and charity, to support the mums and my made me more spiritual. i can't sister and her husband and just go imagine how awful it would the two out and enjoy life. henry, we have do iftar on your own, but i think it seen out and enjoy life. henry, we have seen pictures of a new running will bring us back to the true there, on your own because i presume essence of fasting. martin bashir, has been left behind, you keep leaving her behind on his runs, bbc news. don't you? i know. because it's all hundreds of thousands of people about me. so ijust have to run already die every year from preve nta ble already die every year from preventable diseases in developing world where resources are scarce, but the added burden of covid—19 behind you don't i? henry, do you cases could stretch some health wa nt to behind you don't i? henry, do you want to be a runner when you grow up services to breaking point. the for a living? no, bbc‘s secunder kermani and and soy want to be a runner when you grow up fora living? no, iwant want to be a runner when you grow up for a living? no, i want to be a compare how prepared some countries in asia and africa are. pilot. fantastic. well, you've shown coronavirus has left the healthcare systems of some of the world's richest countries barely able to is how it can all be done and we cope. so what would happen in the have to be inspired by you henry, developing world, where tens of congratulations, amazing effort and millions of people already face a good luck for your run this morning struggle just to survive? and katie, thank for joining good luck for your run this morning and katie, thank forjoining us, you here, medicalfacilities are havejoiner struggle just to survive? here, medical facilities are often and katie, thank forjoining us, you have joiner delay and katie, thank forjoining us, you havejoiner delay might and katie, thank forjoining us, you berserk. people are far poorer and have joiner delay might shown us what you need to be doing. this is living conditions are more crowded. just some way of replicating the money generated by the london marathon so parodies don't lose out. henry, you are an inspiration. don't leave mum behind! i'm inspired now, in italy, one of the countries with the highest death toll in the world, maybe i will do who were looping for they started with about 80 20 minutes over the course of the ventilators for everyone million weekend. look forward to seeing people, and they‘ re ventilators for everyone million people, and they're trying to increase that number. here in kenya, that, mate. i could do it for a minute but over 20 six minutes over it's thought to be around five for the weekend it could be a challenge. eve ryo ne it's thought to be around five for everyone million people, but it's even worse elsewhere in africa. in i feel like i have nigeria, it's about 0.8 for every 1 the weekend it could be a challenge. ifeel like i have seen the weekend it could be a challenge. i feel like i have seen that before somehow. maybe it wasjust i feel like i have seen that before somehow. maybe it was just a i feel like i have seen that before somehow. maybe it wasjust a bad million people. dream. ithink in south asia right now, countries somehow. maybe it wasjust a bad dream. i think he has hula hoops, he has done everything has anti—? it is are racing to try and buy more ventilators. at the moment in nine minutes to ten, we need to pakistan and afghanistan, there are bring you up—to—date with the less tha n pakistan and afghanistan, there are less than ten per million people, weather across the weekend and the coming week, good morning helen, you while in india there are around 11 are the person to do that. morning, per million. italy struggle to find nice to see the sunshine, you can enough ventilators for coronavirus patients, but these countries have see across wales in the western side far fewer. of the country, we have sunshine, so far, the number of confirmed this is a low cloud that is rolled in off the north sea, it is quite coronavirus cases in the developing world is low when compared to those grey and gloomy, misty low cloud and in europe and america. hill fog, some of that around the but so is the number of tests that south wales coast in the south, this have been carried out. many more time of year with the april sunshine as strong as it is in august, that cases are likely to be simply will gradually start to lift and undetected. what we don't know is melt away, it will take its time so how many. it might be the other side of new and before we see that clearing away from eastern counties completely but it is on its way and it will warm up with some sunshine, the north sea in the uk, there are around 28 coast as of yesterday lingering at doctors per 10,000 people. what's in 12 to 14 degrees but temperatures elsewhere inland, away from the the democratic republic of the congo coast, high teens and low 20s, not is not even one doctor per 10,000 of quite as high as they were the population. in afghanistan, yesterday. the outside chance and 12 there are less than three. while in showers, we are already seeing some across the channel islands creeping nigeria, close to four. india and closer to the south—west of england, perhaps one or two across the welsh pakistan have a slightly better ratio, but still around three times mountains and also with low pressure this evening and overnight creeping fewer doctors per capita than the close to the western isles, a few showers here as well but by and uk. you get a sense of the challenges large, still drive the most, just a coronavirus presents here, well, it few showers around overnight, quite ta kes coronavirus presents here, well, it takes something as simple as hand chilly in east anglia, close to washing. in the western world, this frost limits tomorrow morning so a is something everyone has access to chilly start again, almost two seasons in one day but another 11 but here community groups have come together to set up hand washing for many parts tomorrow, facilities and even in africa's particularly southern areas as sunshine gets to work. now, sunshine largest economy, nigeria, only four will get to work but there are out of every ten people have access su btle will get to work but there are subtle changes tomorrow. this line to basic hand washing facilities at of showers could turn thunder into the afternoon across central areas home. while in pakistan and india, only and this area of low pressure will six in ten do, that's around 600 bring some heavier showers, again with thunder risk as we go into the million people without access to basic hand washing facilities at afternoon and call of scotland and home in those two countries alone. northern ireland, notably tomorrow still that warm hanging on. more on there's been some suggestion the warmer climate here will mean coronavirus won't spread so quickly, that tomorrow. enjoy the rest of but there is no conclusive evidence of that yet. 0thers hope because the your weekend. the time now is 952. population in the developing world there's a new drama being launched is generally younger, people here won't be as badly affected by it. on the bbc this weekend — and it could be the last one for a while, as the coronavirus the average age in pakistan is 22, outbreak brings a halt to productions. it's called while in nigeria, it's around 19. "normal people" and it's based on the best—selling book by sally rooney about an unlikely compare that to around 47 in italy romance between two irish teenagers. and 41 in the uk. but people can be let's take a look. vulnerable for different reasons. you have a lot of posters. here in south asia, there are high rates of diabetes and lung disease you don't. and there are plenty of other factors to bear in mind too. too cool. like overcrowding in urban areas, i don't think cool it's common here for poor families is the first word most to live in a single room. people would associate with me. what would that be then? malnutrition rates are also among i don't know. the highest in the world. a lot of annoying. this comes down to a lack of 0bnoxious. spending in healthcare. argumentative. self—righteous, arrogant, frigid. in nigeria and the drc, they spend under 4% of in nigeria and the drc, they spend under4% of gdp, in nigeria and the drc, they spend under 4% of gdp, while in india, its no stop it, nobody says that about you. people do say i'm annoying. 3.5%, and bangladesh, a little over so what? 296. people probably say 3.5%, and bangladesh, a little over that about me too. 2%. compare that to around 9% in no they don't. places like italy or the uk. no one finds you annoying. shy people aren't annoying. you think i'm shy? just because i don't give my opinion on everything all the time. you never give an opinion about anything. ever. you just always know what you think. i'm not like that. you must know what you feel though. so, africa is scrambling to minimise no. the impact of the coronavirus on its i struggle with that actually. health system, economy and its we can now speak to people, and those people include the the stars of the show, most vulnerable, the homeless and. daisy edgar—jones and paul mescal, who are both in london good morning. how we got a across the country, homeless people have been moved into temporary shelters, like this one, rounded up connection, and we established? can you see me? yes, always a good from street corners, parks and underneath the country's highways. while many now don't have to worry start. daisy, there's a lot of noise about this, people are really about where their next meal will looking forward to seeing this come from, they are exposed to other adaptation and what a time to be bringing it to people, just when so risks. many people are looking for things this is usually one of the busiest to watch. it is such a surreal time, parts ofjohannesburg and come evening, these pavements become beds for those without homes. while the it is odd to even talk about it well government's efforts have been commended at getting people off the this is all going on but i suppose we are very lucky that we got the streets, experts warn that for those show done in time and that it is a battling addiction,. 0pioids and tv show so people can still watch it alcohol abruptly can be during this kind of whole thing. life—threatening. so what's the paul, for those unfamiliar with the solution? some centres are now book, can you give a synopsis of it, providing methadone, a replacement drug to help the body cope with what is the beauty of the story? yes, i think to put it very simply, withdrawals. opioid withdrawal is it isa yes, i think to put it very simply, really extremely uncomfortable. it it is a story about the teenagers growing up through secondary school and their lives into college and it is also showing some of the similar is about their relationship both in and out of it. tell us both, daisy, symptoms that covid—19 shows. you need to manage the withdrawal and tell us about the filming process. the craving in all the to stabilise it must feel so odd now because i was just saying before we saw the the craving in all the to stabilise clip, production houses are pretty the lockdown of homeless people. much ground to a halt so i suppose you are looking back thinking, oh they were brilliant days, but being able to go to work and be around people like this man stop he has lived on the streets for ten years other people. definitely, if we had and has been on heroin for nine of known that when this show was coming those years. without methadone, we out, this kind of would have been are nothing. without methadone, if the landscape, it's just out, this kind of would have been the landscape, it'sjust as mad to think about it but we had the best you have no methadone here, i don't think there's going to be people in time on the show and we all knew here. they are going to run away, that it was very loved story so i all of us. guess early on into filming, there homelessness is a long established issue in south africa. because of was a bit of a buzz about it but we the coronavirus, the government has are such a family and it was so much moved fast, but what happens after fun that we kinda forgot about it the lockdown? is it back to the and it is only really now that the streets for people like this? is coming out that we are kind of i'm hoping collectively as a government, because this is notjust like, gosh, lots of people of the story and it feels strange for us to about social development, it's about be showing it on sunday.” housing and it is about policing, it story and it feels strange for us to be showing it on sunday. i imagine the pressure when a book is so is about health, it is about popular, people have an image, it is education. this is a time for us to like for example, harry potter, co—ordinate with everyone, so let's everybody had an image for exactly pull our resources together and make how harry potter should look. so, sure it remains high on the agenda with this character, with marianne, so we can literally move the numbers how did you feel, you needed to of people off the streets. portray her and look...” concerns have been raised about a lack of social distancing and how did you feel, you needed to portray her and look... i was a fan of the book as well and i often erratic food supply and some centres. the minister accepted the watch adaptations and hold on to my criticism but says covid—19 is a idea of a story and sally rooney learning curve for everyone. when i writes in such an amazing way that when you read the book you feel like look at what we've done from the you own those characters and they beginning to now, and the fact that are yours, so we saved the provinces, please don't you own those characters and they are yours, so definitely, i think adapting it i did just have that in my mind that people love this character but i guess we are so heard them like cattle into someplace because we need to sort lucky that we have the book because this. the weeks ahead are uncertain sally has written such a detailed idea of their inner lives so you for all south africans, but amongst always knew exactly where your the homeless, there is some relief characters head was out when you that for the time being, they too came to scenes. but you also had to wait your character is perceived, so have not been forgotten. 0ver have not been forgotten. over to australia now, where the i knew how marianne comes across as government recently announced its well as how she feels inside. so for stimulus package, valued at more than 46 billion us dollars to help example, there was a bit where protect jobs and than 46 billion us dollars to help connell talks about marianne's eyes protectjobs and businesses. from burning into his head. we were lucky sydney, phil mercer has more on how the outbreak is affecting the australian economy. hanging on, but onlyjust. this in we had such a wonderful team behind it. paul, can i aska syd ney hanging on, but onlyjust. this in sydney is closed, closed, and its staff sent home. its owner hopes it we had such a wonderful team behind it. paul, can i ask a slightly different question and forgive me this is a silly question. we have seen can survive the covid—19 lockdown this is a silly question. we have seen lots of people like footballers trying to keep their skills up that has forced businesses across australia to shut. it's definitely during the lockdown or keeping fit. now, you are an actor, so do you hard, we werejust australia to shut. it's definitely practice acting at home during hard, we were just starting to pick up hard, we were just starting to pick up after a couple of months of people starting to understand what lockdown? what you do to keep being it was and get into it, and i think an actor? well, it is actually a that momentum has been completely killed. you jump from being really strange time in most professions, we happy with how everything is going to scared and a little bit worried are trying to adapt in some ways, we about what will happen once it all do this thing called self taping comes back. where you audition for something and legions of australians are you record yourself at home and i am unemployed and need government currently isolating by myself so support. welfare offices have been swamped. economic collapse has been trying to read opposite you is now sudden. in march, 1 millionjobs happening via skype and zoom, it is an odd thing but i wouldn't say i am we re sudden. in march, 1 millionjobs were lost in a single week. it's horrible actually to be quite acting in front of a mirror 95 to honest. i'm nearly 60 and i've never try and keep the skills up, no. that been unemployed in my life ever. would be a little odd. it is lovely talking to you about this morning i'm devastated but i'm sure there's and in such strange times, a lot of people in a lot worse situations than i'm in. we have four adults in people are very happy to see your work coming to our screens, thank ourfamily and than i'm in. we have four adults in our family and three of us are unemployed as of this week. you. thank you thank you. normal covid—19 is causing economic calamity and many businesses simply people begins... also available on won't survive. australia is usually such a vibrant, iplayer tomorrow. do you practice optimistic place but in so many ways presenting in the mirror when you you can feel its confidence ebbing are not here? 95. can't you tell? away. real estate agents are trying to goodbye, have a lovely day. soldier on. social distancing rules mean that online auctions are the only way to sell houses, but the market is in deep trouble. our armageddon plan is if we see 50% reduction in our income in property management and zero sales income. is almost unfathomable that that will happen. if it gets to that point, the world will have ended stop help is on its way with an historic $80 billion rescue package aiming to help secure the jobs of 6 million australians, half the workforce. it will pay wages to staff in businesses that are in lockdown. it will take several weeks before they get that money. we know the number of businesses registering and ultimately how many are paying the this is bbc news with the latest jobkeeper component, but how long headlines for viewers in the uk they can endure that for is the next and around the world. question, how long can the europe pursues options to end the lockdown, government endure the pavements? as belgium sets out a detailed plan some sectors including supermarkets to relax restrictions. will continue to operate during the pandemic, but many businesses are people needing medical care facing the fight of their lives to are urged not to be put off by the coronavirus pandemic, survive. phil mercer, bbc news, as visits to uk a&e departments drop by almost half. sydney. and that's it for now. a reminder, you can always keep up—to—date on the bbc news website, or you can follow me on twitter. thanks for you should not be afraid of accessing health care services. watching. we want you to call 111, call your gp or call 999 first but the nhs is there for you. the premier league holds talks with ministers about how football matches could resume with televised matches played behind closed doors. three us states allow some businesses to reopen as the number good morning. welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. 0ur headlines today: people needing medical care from the nhs are urged not to be put off by the coronavirus pandemic, as visits to a&e drop by almost half. more virus tests will be offered today, after online bookings were suspended in the face of overwhelming demand. plans are being drawn up to see the return of the premier league. the government tells us it's "working hard to get live sport" back behind closed doors, but only when lockdown restrictions can be eased. the oldest person to reach number one — captain tom moore's charity single with michael ball tops the charts. good morning. looks like another dry day for most parts of the uk. it might bea day for most parts of the uk. it might be a bit grey and gloomy first thing, but it looks like for most of us thing, but it looks like for most of us they will once again be some strong sunshine on offer. —— there will. it's saturday, april the 25th. our top story. a huge drop in the number of patients seeking urgent treatment for conditions unrelated to coronavirus is fuelling concerns that serious problems are being missed. the nhs is launching a campaign to encourage anyone with health concerns to seek help as the number of a&e patients fell by half in the last month. we'll be getting reaction from the gp sarahjarvis, who has been warning of this potential problem for weeks. we'll also talk to the medical director of nhs england, professor stephen powis. first, here's jon donnison with the latest. much of the fight against covid—19 has been about trying to keep people safe and out of hospital. but today the nhs is encouraging people not to be afraid of seeking treatment for non—coronavirus conditions. it comes as figures from public health england showed the number of people going to a&e over the past month is down around 50% compared with the same period last year. that is 1 million fewer visits. we are here for non—coronavirus patients, too. so if you're worried about chest pain, maybe you might be having a heart attack or a stroke, or you feel a lump, or you're worried about cancer, or you're a parent concerned about your child, please come forward and use the health service in the way that you normally would. it's going to be better to sort those problems out now rather than leave them for later. meanwhile, the new government website on which key workers and theirfamilies can book coronavirus tests reopens this morning after it was inundated with requests yesterday. almost 50,000 people in england tried to book a testjust hours after the website was launched. 16,000 people did manage to get a drive—through appointment, or a home testing kit. in terms of the number of people dying, figures released yesterday show there were 768 more reported coronavirus deaths in the uk since the day before. it takes the total number to more than 19,500, and it could well reach 20,000 today. and because that does not include deaths in care homes or the community, the realfigure is likely to be much higher. two of those to lose their lives are 37—year—old twin sisters katy and emma davis, both had worked in nursing in southampton. both succumbed to the virus this week. two of those to lose their lives 37—year—old twin sisters katie and emma davis. they were angels on earth and now they're angels in heaven. best friends. they were my best friends as well. they always said that they came in the world together, so they'll go out together. that's what they've done. sisters and soulmates, their lives dedicated to caring for others now cut short. jon donnison, bbc news. let's talk to our political correspondent nick eardley, in our london newsroom. nick, a number of newspapers are carrying stories about the easing of lockdown restrictions, including when and how premier league football might return. many people are looking forward to the easing of restrictions. lots of speculation from football to offices. yeah, i think we have got used to the idea that the lockdown is going to take a while to fully remove itself from our lives, if you like. but one thing that might be a glimmer of hope for getting back to something that looks like normal is the idea that premier league could be back in a few weeks, games being played behind closed doors. there would be pretty strict rules like testing for players and making sure that members of staff and things could socially distance from each other, but that is something the government has been briefed on, something officials are looking at, and it is possible football could be back pretty soon. and also, of course, other things to be thinking about is the government coming under scrutiny, and obviously we are trying to hold them to account throughout our coverage, but looking at these scientific meetings, of course they have been saying they are following the science, but how independent these meetings are? yeah, we heara independent these meetings are? yeah, we hear a lot of that, the government saying all its decisions are meeting that are guided by science. it has this body, sage, which meets a couple of times a week and looks over the latest evidence to give the government advice on what happens next. it has emerged a prime minister's top adviser, a man called dominic cummings, has been taking part in those meetings. they are all done remotely, he has been dialling in. number ten are all done remotely, he has been dialling in. numberten say are all done remotely, he has been dialling in. number ten say that he is not actually actively on the group, he is just is not actually actively on the group, he isjust offering some help whenever he can about how to get government to work. there are some concerns that having a political advisor on that advisory group means that its independence is compromised, and potentially politics is playing a part in making those decisions on that group as well. thank you so much. the belgian government has announced a timetable for lifting its lockdown restrictions from may the 11th, despite having europe's highest coronavirus death rate per head of population. other countries, including denmark and germany, have already started to reopen some schools and businesses. 0ur europe correspondent damien mcguinness joins us now from berlin. damien, it seems that continental europe is preparing for a return to some sort of normality? give us a sense of what they are doing in belgium now, and how the changes are playing out across the rest of europe? yeah, so, we have just had the announcement that on monday, belgium will reopen some businesses, pupils will start to go back to school, and this is really about getting the economy going. 0ther about getting the economy going. other countries such as italy might, over the next day two, also announced a plan for coming out of the lockdown throughout may. it is really what we're looking across europe, even those countries which have been incredibly hard—hit, such as italy, with around 25,000 people dead from coronavirus so far, the highest, apart from the us, in the world, they are still looking now at trying to get the economy back to work. of course it is a difficult challenge, because how do you do that without sparking another wave of infections? and that is what governments across europe are really trying to tackle. we have seen in germany, and also denmark, and other scandinavian countries, they are getting things moving again. but what we are seeing is, especially here in germany, it is almost harder to come out of the lockdown than to go in. because when you went into these restrictive measures, everybody thought they were in it together, there were these terrific reports coming out of spain and italy so there was a sense of fear about what could happen. now that the numbers say that in germany, for example, it is relatively positive, across europe, as well, that curve is starting to flatten, what that means is that the fear is ebbing away to a certain extent, so people are getting more relaxed which makes it more difficult. there is some competition between different sectors about who should get the restrictions lifted first. we are seeing football versus schools, for example, that is a classic debate we are having here in germany. it is looking quite difficult to come out of the lockdown. probably what we are looking out across europe is that in may we will start to see more restrictions being lifted. for just a couple of moments that the sound dropped out, apologies for that, sometimes happens with those things. us president donald trump is facing a continued backlash over his suggestion that coronavirus patients could be treated with injections of disinfectant. he ended his latest white house news conference without taking any questions from journalists, after he was widely condemned for the remark. yesterday, mr trump insisted he was being sarcastic when he made the suggestion. 0ur north america correspondent david willis reports. thank you, mr president. thank you very much. and with that, they were gone. a daily press briefing which routinely stretches over an hour over in 22 minutes. donald trump's reluctance to face further questions seemingly a response to the backlash over comments made to the co—ordinator of his coronavirus task force the day before. and i see the disinfectant knocks it out in a minute. one minute. and is there a way we can do something like that, by injection, inside, or..? almost a cleaning. because you see, it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendousjob. it will be interesting to check. that prompted a torrent of ridicule and condemnation, government officials warning of the health problems that ingesting household disinfectant could cause, and a stark reminder from mr trump's democratic rival joe biden: "don't drink bleach." president trump has said he wasn't being serious, even though he appeared so at the time. i was asking a very sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside. but it does kill it, and it would kill it on the hands. meanwhile, more than 50,000 people here have now died from the coronavirus. but in georgia and some other southern states, hairdressers, tattoo parlours and nail salons have already started to reopen — despite warnings from health officials that it is too early for them to do so safely. the coronavirus pandemic is likely to be the most expensive event in history for the insurance industry, according to the boss of lloyds of london. initial estimates from the association of british insurers suggest it could cost £1.2 billion. the government says it's encouraging insurance firms to do everything they can to support struggling companies. the charity fundraiser captain tom moore has become the oldest person ever to have a number one single in the uk charts, at the impressive age of 99. captain tom's birthday is on thursday, meaning he will still be at the top of the chart when he turns 100. the previous record—holder, sir tom jones, was 68 when he had a number one with a cover of islands in the stream in 2009. captain moore, from one tom to another, congratulations on beating my chart record. if i was going to lose to anybody, it's an honour to have lost to you, for all that you've done raising money for the nhs. congratulations, all the best. from one tom to another. from one tom to anotherlj from one tom to another. i like that. 31 years, that is how much that. 31 years, that is how much that record has been broken by. we will be catching up with captain tom later in the programme. looking forward to that. key workers and their families will have another chance to book coronavirus tests this morning after the government website was inundated by applications yesterday. labour says ministers should have been prepared for that level of demand and is calling on the government to produce an effective testing strategy. let's speak now to the shadow health secretary, jonathan ashworth, who joins us from leicester. good morning. thank you very much for joining good morning. thank you very much forjoining us this saturday morning. so, let's talk about this testing website, shall we? the idea of this is that it will help the government get to its 100,000 target, goal, by the end of the month. that is the hope of the government. but the website has come under, has been inundated, hasn't it? so it has got these technical problems. is that really so big a problem? well, i think what it shows is that there is huge demand for this test. up until yesterday ministers were suggesting that there has not been enough demand for the test, which is why a smaller number of tests have been carried out. of course, the goal, the commitment, is 100,000 tests per day by next thursday. we hope the government can meet that goal. but we also know that there are many care workers, who work and care homes and nursing homes, who had not been able to get the test. we know that many healthcare workers, they have not been able to get the test even though they are supposed to be able to get the test because the system has been, well, overly bureaucratic, i think is the best way of describing it. a lot of people clearly went on the website yesterday because they wanted a test, the website crashed, i hope that doesn't happen today because the fundamentals of infectious disease control are testing people, isolating people if they have got the virus, and then tracing, tracing everybody who has been in contact with that person. that is what we needin with that person. that is what we need in place now in order to break the chains of transmission. we should just say, the website will be reopening or going back live online at eight o'clock today, for anybody who needs to use it. when you talk about your testing, i know you just touched upon it, what is different touched upon it, what is different to the strategy that the labour party would propose, or would have put in place, if it were in power, compared to the test, track and trace that was highlighted this week in the press conferences by the government? well, we used to do testing, isolating and tracing, until march 12, then the government abandoned it because they didn't have the capacity to do it. they are now saying they will invest in recruiting tracing staff, 18,000 staff are coming online. which is welcome. we have been calling for tracing for weeks now. in fact, when we went into this lockdown over a month ago, the first thing i said is, yes, we were pleased about a lockdown and we welcomed it, but a lot is essentially a blunt tool u nless lot is essentially a blunt tool unless you have a contact tracing strategy testing strategy in place alongside it. it has taken over a month for the government to start getting ready for that. while we are in this lockdown, it buys us time, a lockdown is not a strategy in itself. it is just part of our strategy. but we have got to be using this time, because it is expensive time. as we have been hearing, the lockdown has other, far reaching implications for health. people are avoiding going to hospital. people's operations are cancelled. so this is valuable time we have to be using and making the best use of, so let's really invest ina best use of, so let's really invest in a tracing strategy, let's recruit those people, if we need more manpower, perhaps we could use some of the volunteers that signed up to help throughout this crisis, and of course we can also look at digital apps as well, other countries are using apps on phones, let's invest and understand what is possible and what is impossible. what would be possible? because until a vaccine, we're possible? because until a vaccine, we' re pretty possible? because until a vaccine, we're pretty much all understanding that until there is a vaccine, physical distancing is going to remain in place, it will be a change to the way we live. this is going to be the way we live until we have a vaccine. so by tracing, what does that do, what does that change? that's right. until a vaccine is developed, which could be 18 months away, we have to learn and live and cope with this wretched, horrible, dangerous virus. the other possibility is drugs come along that mean if you get the virus, it isn't as serious as it could be, so there's a lot of research going into antiviral drugs, but again, they're not ready yet. you've got two options — you're either in lockdown for 18 months, that's clearly unsustainable, unsustainable for the economy and as we just heard, other health issues dolled up, people avoid going to hospital and treatment is cancelled and people with cancer don't get the treatment they need, so we have to do something. if you move to testing and contact tracing, you're asking people who have got the virus to get tested and you're asking anyone in contact with that person to isolate themselves, to quarantine themselves, to quarantine themselves, but you need a process where everyone who has been in touch with the original person knows they've been in touch with someone who has the virus and cooperates and goes and isolates. it's a big process but it's the only option facing us, or we stay in lockdown for months and months and months and months. isn't that what the proposed app is? that's in place then, isn't it? no, it's not ready yet. but it's being put in place. we have to accept, don't we, we want to hold the government to account, the labour party wants to, journalists wa nt labour party wants to, journalists want to, but it's being put in place and rolled out now? it's being tested at the moment, but you've got to look at... there's two options now, other countries, asian countries, have a mandatory app. i don't think we are proposing a mandatory app and we're not proposing for you to get on the bus or to go to the shop and you have to have the app and show whether you have the app and show whether you have got coronavirus or not on an app. we're making that compulsory. we wa nt app. we're making that compulsory. we want everybody in the population to download this app onto their phones and how do we encourage them to do that? how do we encourage 60 or 70% of the population to have the app on their smartphone? we know lots of people have smart phones these days but there's still some who don't, so these are the things we need to explore to make sure an app is actually effective. you also have to combine it with actual people, actual staff also doing the contact tracing work as well. 0k, contact tracing work as well. ok, i contact tracing work as well. 0k, ijust contact tracing work as well. ok, i just wanted contact tracing work as well. 0k, ijust wanted a quick question, sorry to interrupt, on a report on the front page of the sun that the premier league is coming back, and you have said it is unsustainable to have lockdown for 18 months, steps are reportedly being made, would you support the premier league behind closed doors? i think if it can be done in a safe way, then of course, but we need to understand what the thinking is behind it and what the medical evidence is. if our medical advice and scientific is these games can go ahead behind closed doors safely, of course i would support it. jonathan ashworth, thank you for talking to us this morning on brea kfast. here's helen with a look at this morning's weather. good morning. good morning. hello. a rather murky nectar in saltash in cornwall, some mist and fog around because it's been so still. but the weekend sta rts been so still. but the weekend starts with subtle changes to this predominantly dry spell of weather, so it will start to turn a bit cooler. we will still see plenty of sunshine, this was a bit earlier at hannebery in worcestershire, so thanks to the weather watchers for sending those in. rather grey for eastern scotland and north—east england, all low cloud drifting in through the night in east anglia, pockets of fog elsewhere, but at this time of year, the april sunshine is strong and it will melt away the cloud and it becomes much brighter and sunnier by lunchtime. we could have a future sparked off later in the day in the south—west moors and the welsh mountains, a few in the north, that a bit cooler here and for most, warm again. 23 yesterday and probably 21 today, but that won't affect the pollen levels, again forecast to be high in many areas as you can see through today. the potential for isolated showers in the afternoon. possibly drifting into northern england and the midlands. here is the increased risk of showers in the western and northern isles. a bit more cloud around, not especially cold, except eastern england, we could see close to freezing in east anglia. feeling colder all north tomorrow, that's where we will see major changes. for many in the south, another warm day with morning mist and fog, sea fog for the east coast. probably not as extensive as today. again, we have got showers and they will be heavier with the risk of thunder and lightning tomorrow and a band of showers around northern england, parts of north wales, the midlands and they too could be on the sharp side. notice the difference in temperatures, 20 four the central lowla nds temperatures, 20 four the central lowlands and parts of northern ireland, 1a tomorrow, the warmth holds on in the south and the pollen levels remain high in many areas. su btle levels remain high in many areas. subtle changes and a lot of dry weather this weekend, but chillier for all parts and we will all feel the influence of the north, north—easterly breeze through the day on monday and the cloud gradually goes south. the extreme south and east will hang onto the warmth, but more showers around in the forecast into the early part of next week. welcome rain for the gardens. lots of gardeners will be pleased about it and lots of people are doing more gardening at the moment. helen, thank you. the nhs is launching a campaign today to urge us to seek medical help when we need it, amid concerns that people are avoiding hospitals due to coronavirus. that's something which the gp sarahjarvis has been warning about for several weeks. we can talk to her now from her home in london. good morning, sarah. so, i know have been talking about this for some time, and there a lot of focus on it today, what are you seeing in practice in terms of people coming to you or other gps? we are all saying that it's much less busy than we expected. there's lots of facilities in place, for instance five weeks ago now gps we re for instance five weeks ago now gps were advised by the nhs that they shouldn't be allowing patients to book online appointments and go straight in and see their gp so instead we've set up a service whereby people can have a phone consultation or video consultation in many parts of the country and if they do need to be seen, they can be directed, and we've got this in place pretty much everywhere now, either to a cold hard, where seeing people not at high risk of coronavirus, or where there is any specialism of someone having coronavirus, a hot pub, where the doctor will have the relevant ppe, or the nurse will have the same thing, and after they have left, the room can be decontaminated every time they have been seen. is that someone time they have been seen. is that someone at the door? it is, but don't worry, i don't have to answer it! the joys of talking to people in their homes! this is an important issue, isn't it? in their heads, the thinking... it may be that i don't want to trouble the doctor because there's bigger stuff going on, i don't want to go into a&e, for example, because they already busy and in a way it is a laudable thought process but there is real risks attached —— they are all really busy. it could cost lives. we've known about the number of people going into a&e and contacting their gp when they didn't need to be seen, there's been campaigns about it, and i'm very surprised, i never expected in my professional life to say the opposite because we know a lot of people worry and they may contact theirgp people worry and they may contact their gp inappropriately. in the past we've pushed for people to their pharmacist. they are very highly qualified professionals. these days, we're saying if you don't want to anybody, then your pharmacist may be an amazing person to stop inpatient access has just launched an telephone and video consultations and so you can deal with a range of minor elements. importantly with a range of minor elements. importa ntly they can with a range of minor elements. importantly they can tell you if you do need to be seen as an emergency. we've seen about 2300 people, a reduction, every month of people being referred under the so—called fast track two—week wait for cancer referrals, and those are people whose cancers could be missed and another 400 people who are not being referred because screening programmes have dropped off. if you do get a screening invitation, please contact your practice or go infor please contact your practice or go in for it. if you're told by your gp that you need to go to hospital, that's because the risk to you of not going is much higher than the risk of going. sara, have you had occasion so far, obviously you're not going to divulge personal details, but have you had occasion where you've had contact recently with someone and you said you really should have come in sooner? i can only imagine that that must be happening sometimes. absolutely, no question. there's many cases where i've seen people and i told them they should have come in sooner and i've had a couple of cases where i've had a couple of cases where i've said to people you ought to be going to the hospital and they've said i'm not going, i'm too scared. what happens then? they have a right not to go, but all i can do as a healthcare professional is have a discussion and try to explain that hospitals likewise are divided into areas with low risk and higher risk of coronavirus, and we will very much try to keep you away. we've communicated this quite successfully for women, for instance, who are pregnant, because obviously they're going to need to go in and the royal situations and gynaecologist has worked hard to make sure women know if they go in, every care has been taken to minimise their risk but also if they have symptoms of coronavirus then if their partner has symptoms, they won't be allowed m, has symptoms, they won't be allowed in, all the visiting arrangements have been changed and you can have your partner in with you when you go into labour but they won't be able to stay afterwards, all hospitals have pretty much banned certainly all routine visiting, so we've done everything we can to reduce this risk of contracting it while you're there. this is... a lot of what you're saying today chimes with a wider campaign about this, how do you concentrate people's minds on this. these are hard statistics to come up with, and i know this is awful because we are talking about people ‘s false health and lives, but is there some way of quantifying the number of people who are dying that otherwise wouldn't. we know up to 5000 people a month aren't going to 5000 people a month aren't going to a&e and filing 999 as a result of chest pain, not all of those are going to have a heart attack but a significant proportion will —— dialling. the statistics we had in the last two weeks from the 0ns on the last two weeks from the 0ns on the number of people dying show there's an extra 6000 people for the week before last that we have statistics for, of whom about 3500 we re statistics for, of whom about 3500 were diagnosed with coronavirus, have that on their death certificate, and 2500 didn't and the most certificate, and 2500 didn't and the m ost rece nt certificate, and 2500 didn't and the most recent week we've got is about 8000 extra deaths, of which at least half did not have coronavirus on the death certificate. in some cases, they may have had it but it wasn't on the death certificate that actually that means a significant proportion, and that's just the people dying immediately. if we have 2700 people a week not being referred as a result of cancer symptoms or as a result of screening, that is going to start adding up. dr sarah jarvis, thank you for your time this morning, good to speak to you today, as always. later on this morning, in an hour, professor stephen powers, medical director of nhs england, will be with us and if you've got questions you want to pass through to us that we can ask on your behalf, please do that. spoke to jonathan that. spoke tojonathan ashworth earlier and during the interview i said the new web, the key worker testing website opens at 8am, it appears it has opened at 7am. we were reporting it was overwhelmed with users, it has crashed, i can tell you now that the appointments have gone for the tranche that was let out this morning. they stagger the appointments available through the day so there may be some later but at the moment we understand all the appointments offered at 7am when it came up have appointments offered at 7am when it came up have gone. appointments offered at 7am when it came up have gone. we will keep you updated on that. headlines coming up injust a moment. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. good morning. here's a summary of today's main stories from bbc news. a huge drop in the number of patients seeking urgent treatment for conditions unrelated to coronavirus is fuelling concerns that serious problems are being missed. the nhs is launching a campaign to encourage anyone with health concerns to seek help, as the number of a&e patients fell by half in the last month. the official government guidance says that getting medical help is one of the four reasons people can safely leave home. a leading disinfectant manufacturer has issued a strong warning not to use its products on the human body, after president trump suggested that coronavirus patients could be treated with injections of the chemical. mr trump has since said that he made the comments "sarcastically. " he refused to take questions at yesterday's white house press briefing, after his suggestion was widely criticised and ridiculed. the belgian government has announced a detailed plan to gradually lift coronavirus restrictions. all shops will be allowed to reopen from the 11th of may and children will return to school the following week, but with a maximum of ten students per class. nearly 7,000 people have died in belgium — that's europe's highest death rate per head of population. the coronavirus pandemic is likely to be the most expensive event in history for the insurance industry, according to the boss of lloyds of london. initial estimates from the association of british insurers suggest it could cost £1.2 billion. the government says it's encouraging insurance firms to do everything they can to support struggling companies. it is 7:32am. helen will have the weather for us today. there it is 7:32am. helen will have the weatherfor us today. there is it is 7:32am. helen will have the weather for us today. there is some rain on the way for any of those gardeners who are keen, because it has been quite dry. let's go straight to mike, who has the sport. just imagine saturday afternoons with some live football on free tv to watch. wouldn't that be a dream for all football fans? still potentially a few weeks or even months away, but there is talk about, like in germany, some sort of premier league action behind closed doors, may be in a month or two. there is lots of caution with the story as well. what could we see the return of live football soon? a government source has told the bbc, that officials are working hard to get live sport back on the tv. that would include premier league matches being played behind closed doors. but there are lots of caveats. firstly, it won't happen before the next review of the lockdown, due on may the 7th. the go—ahead would depend on the government meeting its key five tests for easing restrictions. those tests include seeing death and infection rates fall consistentently. clubs would then have to meet additional criteria, including the regular testing of players and ensuring the safety of staff. a government source said watching live sport on tv would give the country a huge lift. more than 40,000 runners, should have been making theirfinal some clubs in the english football league have been called for the tra nsfer league have been called for the transfer window to be open until at least the end of january 2021 to alleviate all the financial pressures on them. discussions are ongoing to extend the window. governing body fifa would make the final decision, though. this is what is needed at this time. i would be amazed and surprised if fifa do not agree to it. this is what the clubs are calling for, this is what is required to give clubs that flexibility. do not hamstring us at the end of august, but that is fixed, your planned budget is fixed untiljanuary. fixed, your planned budget is fixed until january. i just fixed, your planned budget is fixed untiljanuary. i just think we need that flexibility both in the loan market and the transfer market for clu bs to market and the transfer market for clubs to be able to trade their way out of difficulties. more than 40,000 runners, should have been making theirfinal preparations today for the london marathon, which was due to take place tomorrow. that's no longer happening, of course, but we can all get involved in a different way. the athlete laura muir, who holds the british record for the 1500 metres, can tell us more. hello, laura. great to see you this morning. now, being a middle—distance runner, you have never actually run a marathon before, the 26.2 miles, but you have still been running around the garden 26 times! tell us more? yeah, ijust kind of thought, what can i do at home? you know, as part of the 2.6 challenge. we thought, 26 laps, it isn't a marathon, but it is the start of something. so that was good fun. tell us more about the 2.6 challenge that we can all get involved in to help raise some of the money that would have been raised by the london marathon tomorrow. we can see running around the chairs in the garden, that's pretty impressive pace. yeah, i thought it wasn't too bad. this weekend obviously was meant to be the london marathon, which is such a shame for everybody involved. not just the athletes, but all the people going along to support it and all the charities as well. the 2.6 challenge is trying to do something, whether it is 2.6, 26, 260 or something to help raise money for this charity, for those charities who would have been benefiting from this weekend. you live with jemma reekie, another middle distance runner. have you been challenging each other on this? yes, i have challenged her. we had to come up with something for her to do. i think that is the great thing about it, that anybody can get involved. and it is good to see you still in training there in the garden, because it must be really hard and frustrating on you this week, we found out that the european athletics in paris in august has been called off as well, as well as the olympics. you are preparing for both. how heart has it been for you to adapt to this? yeah, i think it is tougher everybody. the olympus was going to be a huge event this year. —— 0lympics. and now! was going to be a huge event this year. —— 0lympics. and now i find out the europeans won't be happening either. i think it is something we'll just have to either. i think it is something we'lljust have to take in our stride, and ultimately it is for everybody‘s public health and safety which is the most important thing, so they are the right decisions. absolutely. how have you been keeping fit apart from running around the garden 26 times? well, lucky i got quite a lot of gym equipment in the house. i havejust been doing gym workouts in the garden and behind the house u nfortu nately we ca n garden and behind the house unfortunately we can still run as well. it has been great. and also, the london marathon, which was due to ta ke the london marathon, which was due to take place tomorrow, is now going to take place tomorrow, is now going to ta ke to take place tomorrow, is now going to take place tomorrow, is now going to take place in the autumn. the race director even suggesting it could be an elite runners only race due to the coronavirus. do you think that could work? i guess it is better than nothing. the london marathon is something so many people are involved in, but i thinkjust as it is now, things are changing so rapidly, we willjust have to see how things play out down the line. and what is possible, for the event to be held as safely as possible. and it is really important for people to get involved, because the london marathon raises so many millions every year the charity and this is a way of keeping that going, this is a way of keeping that going, this 26, the 2.6 challenge. yeah, of course. so much money. so much awareness as well, for charities, is created from this event. it is so important to try to get so many people involved to help. so to continue that a little bit and try to raise awareness for the charities and try to raise as much money for them as we can, you know, we all benefit from this usually, notjust at any benefit from this usually, notjust atany time, benefit from this usually, notjust at any time, most especially just now. laura, congratulations on getting involved. thank you indeed for joining getting involved. thank you indeed forjoining us this morning. and say hello to jemma reekie, forjoining us this morning. and say hello tojemma reekie, as well. will do. but was laura muir in glasgow, the british record holderfor the 1500 metres. that has me thinking, what can we do 26 times 2.6 times? let's get creative, charlie and naga. i've got a skipping rope and of all loop at home. and it all has to be done by... well, today or tomorrow. we can think of some creative ideas. maybe some suggestions from the viewers to help us. suggestions from the viewers to help us. well, it is up to you. you have laid out your own gauntlet, mike. we have a couple of hours now. you can come up with something. have a couple of hours now. you can come up with somethinglj have a couple of hours now. you can come up with something. i did think about, and it is a bit of a boring one, ijust about, and it is a bit of a boring one, i just thought about, and it is a bit of a boring one, ijust thought i would run 26 minutes. that's good. yeah. well, if you can do it, that is about five kilometres. yes, five kilometres. it might be a bit of a push for me, i am usually about 28 minutes for five kilometres. skipping for 26 minutes? i don't think that can be done.“ you are going to do that, mike, i would like to watch. what about walking lunges for 26 minutes? yes, or burpees, that would be even worse. see you, mike. we've heard a lot in recent weeks about retired doctors and nurses who have returned to work in the fight against coronavirus. but they're not the only ones. around 4,000 former servicemen and women have also volunteered to bring their valuable skills to a new type of frontline. jj chalmers went to meet some of those who have answered the prime minister's plea for help. we must act like any wartime government and do whatever it takes to support our economy. so who better to ask to step up than those that have already been to war themselves? enter team rubicon uk, a charity that asks armed forces vetera ns to charity that asks armed forces veterans to help respond to natural disasters across the world. and now its efforts have turned on the uk's battle with covid—19. after three yea rs of battle with covid—19. after three years of civilian life, charles broa dford years of civilian life, charles broadford stepped forward to serve his country again. he is now leading operations at an nhs supermarket, at guy's and st thomas ‘s hospitals, in london, handing out donated food to front—line staff so they don't have to face empty shelves at the end of their shifts. i was a quartermaster, soi their shifts. i was a quartermaster, so i was involved in logistics, logistics management. 0n so i was involved in logistics, logistics management. on a bigger scale than this, to be honest. i mean, this is nothing compared to what has gone around, to be honest. what i've been asked to do is minimal, organising a trip to the supermarket. going to the shops three orfour times a supermarket. going to the shops three or four times a day. albeit some long hours, every now and then, but nothing like these guys and girls. so my new superhero has a steely eyed determination, normally a bit bloodshot, a bit of line across the hair, a little bit of salt down the side of here, some lines. more prominent than mine, i might add. but there is this because of masks and protection and ppe. 0ver of masks and protection and ppe. over 4000 veterans have signed up, but they estimate they could need as many as 40,000 to sustain the operation. they have delivered over 1 million items of ppe and assisted with the construction of london's nhs nightingale and cardiff's dragons heart hospital. former army officer holly kimball is who —— is helping to lead a team of over 40 vetera ns helping to lead a team of over 40 veterans who are converting to vip suite at the principality stadium into a covid ward. i found that the communication and leadership skills but the army training brought have made a massive impact on my ability to lead teams, because it does not matter if you are in rural mozambique or cardiff, just being pa rt mozambique or cardiff, just being part ofan mozambique or cardiff, just being part of an organisation of such diverse individuals, from all different walks of life, some with a military background and others from a completely different walks of life, and i found a completely different walks of life, and ifound that a completely different walks of life, and i found that bringing those together has been an amazing opportunity and is one of my favourite parts of being in my team rubicon. as well as supporting the nhs are also working in the heart of communities across the uk. former aircraft engineering officer stuart edmonson has helped to ensure that 22,000 vulnerable people in his cou nty 22,000 vulnerable people in his county can still 22,000 vulnerable people in his cou nty ca n still access 22,000 vulnerable people in his county can still access food, medicine and other essentials. there are people out there who have run out or are running out of food, and don't have, for various reasons, family orfriends don't have, for various reasons, family or friends support. but the support that is already out there is massive. there are lots of volu nteers massive. there are lots of volunteers out there. theyjust need co—ordination, you know? there is that need to co—ordinate the huge swathes of wonderful volunteers we have got out there. the man behind the whole operation is former royal marines captain richard sharp. we are lucky that we have a cohorts of people that walk towards trouble. they chose to do it when theyjoined the military, they then digitise their paid career, and they have left, but they still want to do it. and yes, this is a very different situation, we can't see the threat in the way that you can see a physical threat, and we have to balance that risk. but at the end of the day, if we don't do what we're doing, there are human beings in the uk who will suffer. rich, you have worked with rubicon all of the world and you and were in afghanistan. are we at war right now? this is like a warcampaign we at war right now? this is like a war campaign because it is so relentless. and it needs the level of dedication and focus and other commitments that it takes to fight operations abroad. for those of us who are out there and all those organisations, but of course, the nhs, ican't organisations, but of course, the nhs, i can't say enough about them, absolutely, this is as close as i hope to award the uk will ever come to again on its own shores. so while the enemy in this war is very different, and the frontline is much closer to home, the skills, experience and mindset needed to tackle it is very similar. it is very impressive, seeing how people are adapting, and using the skills they learned somewhere else and putting it into practice somewhere else. and those skills, it is amazing, you don't think you have these brilliant transferable skills, but it just shows. these brilliant transferable skills, but itjust shows. there is a skill are bringing sunshine to us every day, and helen, you get to do that with the latest weather, don't you? yes, it looks like a fairly decent weekend for many, but there are su btle weekend for many, but there are subtle changes afoot. so we have had this prolonged spell of settled weather, but there is always a greater chance of a few showers around today, but also tomorrow when it turns cool in the north. this morning we have been played by misty low cloud, rather great and the cloud. —— grey and the cloud. the cloud. —— grey and the cloud. the cloud is getting stronger and it will work away and clear out as we had towards lunchtime. could be a bit of mist and fog elsewhere. could bea bit of mist and fog elsewhere. could be a few showers triggered late in the day across the mountains of wales and the moors of the south—west. again, it is warm. i think a notable difference is that it will be cooler for the north coast of northern ireland in north—west scotland, where they could be just a few showers as well. those will continue to become more prevalent, i think, those will continue to become more prevalent, ithink, through those will continue to become more prevalent, i think, through this evening and overnight. there will still be a few showers across the walsh mountains drifting into the midlands and perhaps northern england. more cloud, again not too cold, but in east anglia under southeast we could get temperatures down within a degree two of freezing. and what about tomorrow? well, as you can see, it is looking mostly fine and dry. i'll tell you more about that later. the green goddess, also known as diana moran, has been helping to keep us fit and active over the last few weeks. here she is with another workout to kick—start the weekend. good morning, everybody. well, here we are, another weekend, so we're going to do a short, sharp warm—up this morning to get you ready to get out there to enjoy your weekend. i start every day with this, my monkey stretch. feet a little bit apart and literallyjust roll down and up and stretch throughout the body. down we go, up, stretch. it's such a good feeling. it really re—energises you, re—oxygenates the body because you have to breathe quite deeply and stretch right the way through the body. right, we've been taking some stresses and strains on our body over the last few weeks, and so let's just rid ourselves of some of the stress. that's it, just work those shoulders, work the upper back. pull the shoulders back as you take them back. that's really good. and breathe nice and deeply as you're working out. and then just let's climb up as if we're climbing a rope to the heavens. up you go! that's it! lovely! working out the whole of the body again. that's really, really good. and now, finally, let's stretch the body. so take a nice, deep breath and as you breathe out, bend that knee a little bit... 0ver you go. feel that stretch all the way down that side of your body. hold the stretches for about five to ten seconds. that's good. excellent. back to centre. take a nice deep breath again and as you breathe out, up, stretch and over you go. oh, that's made me feel alive this morning. that's a really good feeling. just shake it out and then you know what you've got to do — keep fit and carry on! it is 748 a.m.. time now for a look at this week's click. welcome to click. the days are getting longer, and so is the hair, but we are still here. hope you're 0k. look, lara's in the house. well, hers. hello, spencer! good to see you spencer, how are you? what have you been doing apart from growing your hair? i've been quite busy watching a lot of tv, actually. we are big fans of doctor who here, so on social media, thousands of fans have agreed to hit play on the same episode at exactly the same time, at seven o'clock. and what then happens is we all watched together but the director, the script writer and some of the actors are all tweeting along while we are watching so you get this live director's commentary on a second screen. i love it, it's a kind of communal feel, we are all watching these great programmes. that sounds really fun! in this house, we've been very busy making television. downstairs my husband has been making his tv show, it's a good job i'm good with tech because he's needed a bit of help. yes, i've seen. and this sign has become a bit controversial, because when his sign arrived for his show, it's huge! so there's now been a competition. next week this may have to move closer to the camera. 0k, whatever you need to do to stay sane during lockdown, you have your logo wars. that's absolutely fine. anyway, let's move on, let's talk dating! dating apps have seen a rise in interaction since we've all been an isolation. you know, i found that weird as well, because i wondered why people would start the dating process when they know they can't then meet in the flesh anytime soon. that was my first thought, but actually, if you're single and you're looking for love, you might as well get on the case as soon as possible. and 0mar mehtab has been putting one of them to the test. with dating apps exploding in popularity over the past years, a generation learned a new way of finding love. but, with social isolation now in place, the dating game is being reinvented once again. also innovating are two roommates from new york, they are rance nix and thi lam. they've come up with loveisquarantine, a dating format that's broadcast as a sort of live reality show on instagram. after giving a few details on their google sheets, six people are then manually sorted by nix and lam into pandemic pods and paired up to go on phone dates with each other. so, i'm actually going to give this a go myself, and even though it's a phone date, i do have to look my best, so i'm going to get ready. as the evening goes on, i'll have to send a video to loveisquarantine after each date talking about how it went, so that the audience on instagram watching this reality show unfold can keep up with the action. and for the purposes of this online show, i have to provide a short intro video. hey there. my name is 0mar mehtab, i'm 29... during the round—robin dates, those involved don't know what each other looks like. in all the videos uploaded, fingers obscure faces. only if a couple hits it off are they finally revealed. the creators wanted to get right away from the normal obsession with image that you find on most dating sites to get to what they say is important. ‘cause anything is possible! for me personally, i happen to have achondroplasia, which is the most common form of dwarfism. now, a lot of girls, not all girls, but a lot of girls are looking for the 64", attractive, "he's got the beard, he's got the good hair, the muscles and all the things," so for me to go on a dating app like hinge or tinder, the numbers just aren't great because i don't get that opportunity... people go, "oh, nah — swipe left," but for something like loveisblind and loveisquarantine, like i said, we're allowing people the opportunity to get to know people, and who knows? right, it's 2am here, making it evening time in the us. and before the first date has even begun, excitement is building up in the comment. so, must admit, bit nervous. let's see how this goes. hey, 0livia. how are you? and as i'm talking away, i realise that there's little to worry about, largely in part because i'm not focusing on anything except the conversation. 0k, i've just had my first date and it kind of feels like the ‘90s, where if you had a penpal via letter or via e—mail, you wouldn't see them until you actually met them in real life, but it's refreshed for a social media generation. right now i'm about to send a video talking about the date and how it went for everyone to see. we're excited, so keep us posted. let's go! we believe in love! but after this lockdown is over, will there still be a place for loveisquara ntine? for others that do consistently use dating apps, i feel like something similar to loveisquarantine actually is a better option — it's just a lot more of an intentional, ifeel like, sort of approach. it's hard because i know that when i am using an app and i have all this information about somebody, i know what they like, i know that i can be more particular about it. i was way more nervous on loveisquarantine than i was in person, because i get scared of what i'm going to say, but when they're in person there is a connection and there's more back—and—forth. for better or worse, when dating apps came in, they changed our culture. in this time of isolation, we're still relying on technology but re—learning how to connect with people, so maybe the art of conversation isn't dead after all. hello and welcome to the week in tech. it was the week that netflix added 16 million new subscribers in the first quarter of the year. nintendo said it's increasing switch production by 10% and facebook released its gaming app ahead of schedule, a move they said was directly in response to the lockdown. facebook also launched a coronavirus survey in the uk this week asking select users if they had'd symptoms of covid—19. it's a part of a joint effort with carnegie mellon university to help track the illness. the uk surveyjoins an online heat map to track where people in america are feeling ill, county by county. people can report any covid—19 or flu—like symptoms they had had in the past 24 hours. a device made from a raspberry pi minicomputer is being tested to remotely monitor vital signs in coronavirus patients. engineers at the university of toronto designed the device which attaches to a fingertip probe. it feeds patient data back to nurses via wi—fi. 60 more satellites were launched into orbit by elon musk‘s spacex starlink mission, joining 360 that are already up. spacex says it will eventually have 12,000 satellite in space with the aim of providing global internet coverage. and finally, it was the 50th anniversary of earth day this week, with celebrations taking place mainly online. the european space agency beamed a powerful message of human unity from stephen hawking out across the planet. when we see the earth from space, we see ourselves as a whole. 0k, school is back and that means for parents at home, we have to start helping our children with their lessons. there is a lot of homeschooling content online, but it's pretty overwhelming for any parent to work out where to go for what. so here's kate russell with a round—up of what's around. you know, it's ok to admit that this shutdown is sending you a little bit doolally. like these parents who posted these brilliant memes about homeschooling. and with schools going back, but the kids remaining at home, here is my tech survival kit. many of the resource hubs that teachers already use have put up special sections to guide parents through this stressful period. twinkle has daily activities for primary age. a search for live lessons brings up tons of pre—made classes with qualified teachers. and if your kids' teachers are emailing worksheets in a confusing array of file formats, zamzar can quickly convert stuff so you can open them with ease. you are not going to become a first—class teacher overnight, so try not to be too hard on yourself. and don't give out too many detentions, it'll punish you more than it will them. parentkind is full of straightforward advice for the shutdown, including what to expect from your kids' school and some tips to create a good learning environment for all ages. lessons aside, keeping the kids focused with all the distractions of home will be tough, so don't be afraid to use the bells and whistles of educational apps to help keep their attention. sign up to easypeasy for a guide to playful learning, including daily game ideas and tips. you can also track progress to help see the difference you are making. phonicsplay teaches reading skills using phonics. the parents' section can help with understanding the teaching process. this is usually a paid site, but the makers are offering everything free during the shutdown. carol vorderman became famous doing quickfire maths on a tv show, and her video classes for kids are now also being enjoyed free of charge for the duration of the shutdown. good science begins with thinking like a scientist, and that's the focus of this site full of lessons and activities. when you're feeling like it's about to spin out of control, set the kids a brainpop quiz. with fun, colourful videos, they'll forget they're learning. if you want to dig deeper there are challenges, worksheets and vocabulary tests you can set. and i wouldn't be doing myjob as a tech evangelist if i didn't suggest that now is a really good time to learn coding. it's something you can do together, and teaches logic and problem—solving skills too. raspberry pi projects and codeacademy are two old favourites that have fun, interactive projects for all stages of learning. for primary age, bee—bot is a fun app that teaches the principles of coding and develops computational thinking in a playful way. and if all else fails, restore peace and tranquility with some mindful meditation — cookie monster style. head over to the sesame street channel on youtube kids where they will be publishing two new monster meditation cartoons each week, to help younger kids deal with the stress of having you teaching them at home. me smell with me little nose, cookies! oh boy oh boy oh boy! that was kate, and i have to say to every single parent that is trying to juggle a job and be teacher now, hats off to you — it's a really tough gig and i am sure you are doing absolutely brilliantly. and i am afraid that is all we have got time for on this, the short cut of click for this week. as always, the full—length version can be found on the bbc iplayer. thanks so much for watching, and we'll see you soon. bye bye. good morning welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. 0ur headlines today... people needing medical care from the nhs are urged not to be put off by the coronavirus pandemic, as visits to a&e drop by almost half. more virus tests will be offered today, after online bookings were suspended in the face of overwhelming demand. plans are being drawn up to see the return of the premier league. the government tells us it's "working hard to get live sport" back behind closed doors, but only when lockdown restrictions can be eased. the oldest person to reach number one, captain tom moore's charity single with michael ball tops the charts. good morning. it looks like another dry day for most parts of the uk. it may be a little bit grey and gloomy first thing but it looks like for most of us there will be once again some strong april sunshine on offer. it's saturday april the 25th. our top story. a huge drop in the number of patients seeking urgent treatment for conditions unrelated to coronavirus is fuelling concerns that serious problems are being missed. the nhs is launching a campaign to encourage anyone with health concerns to seek help as the number of a&e patients fell by half in the last month. we'll also talk to the medical director of nhs england, professor stephen powis. first, here's jon donnison with the latest. much of the fight against covid—19 has been about trying to keep people safe and out of hospital. but today the nhs is encouraging people not to be afraid of seeking treatment for non—coronavirus conditions. it could cost lives. we've known for a long time and there have been many campaigns in the past about the number of people going to a&e or contacting the lg p when they did not have to be seen and i am very surprised. i never expected in my professional life tend to be saying the opposite. it comes as figures from public health england show the number of people going to a&e over the past month is down around 50% compared with the last period last year. that's1 million fewer visits. we are here for non—coronavirus patients too. so if you're worried about chest pain, maybe you might be having a heart attack or stroke, or you feel a lump or you are worried about cancer, or you're a parent concerned about your child, please come forward and use the health service in the way that you normally would. it's going to be better to sort those problems out now rather than leave them for later. meanwhile, the new government website on which key workers and theirfamilies can book coronavirus tests reopens this morning, after it was inundated with requests yesterday. almost 50,000 people in england tried to book a testjust hours after the website was launched. 16,000 people did manage to get a drive—through appointment or a home testing kit. in terms of the number of people dying, figures released yesterday showed 768 more reported coronavirus deaths in the uk since the day before. it takes the total number to more than 19,500. it could well reach 20,000 today and because that does not include deaths in care homes or the community, the realfigure is likely to be much higher. let's talk to our political correspondent nick eardley in our london newsroom. nick, a number of newspapers are carrying stories about the easing of lockdown restrictions, including when and how premier league football might return. how might that work? watch the official line on these stories? the government isn't really going into detail at the moment about what lifting lockdown would look like for the simple message that they want to keep the message pretty simple at the moment which is you have murdered many times, stay home, save lives, protect the nhs. there have been some movements in scotla nd there have been some movements in scotland and wales but at uk level not much discussion about exactly what it will look like. however, on that story about the premier league potentially being backed up and running ina potentially being backed up and running in a few weeks behind closed doors, it is something the government officials are talking about, something that is being taken seriously. a government source saying that it is something that overnight would not be the same as stadiums being open but it is something they hope to get going to bring something resembling normality back to our lives. we have learned some new phrases, some new organisations very important in the government thinking. the scientific advisory group for emergencies, sage, they meet all the time and advise politicians about the science and the medicine. there are questions about who is involved in that. that's right. we have said the government say over and over again that all the decisions that are being made are being made with science in mind. really interesting that it turns out that dominic cummings who is the prime ministers chief adviser has been taking part in some of these sage meetings. number ten say he is there to listen and to help when he can, to talk about what goes on in government and how it works. some are raising concerns that it might mean politics is playing a part in how those decisions are being made or that dominic cummings might be taking those messages back to the prime minister himself rather than the chief scientific adviser. number ten totally denying that saying it does not change anything, those scientists are still the most important people making the advice and available to government. but some concerns being raised there. thank you. if you have tried to request a home test, tell us about it. at 8.30 we'll be talking to the medical director of nhs england, professor stephen powis. the us president donald trump is facing a continued backlash over his suggestion that coronavirus patients could be treated with injections of disinfectant. he ended his latest white house news conference without taking any questions from journalists, after he was widely condemned for the remark. yesterday, mr trump insisted he was being sarcastic when he made the suggestion. 0ur north america correspondent david willis reports. thank you very much. and with that they were gone. a daily press briefing which routinely stretches beyond two hours, all over in 22 minutes. donald trump's reluctance to face further question seen as a response to the backlash he has faced over comments made to the coordinator of his coronavirus task force the day before. and then i see the disinfectant...that knocks it out in a minute. one minute. and is there a way we can do something like that? by injection, inside or... almost a cleaning? because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check. that prompted a torrent of ridicule and condemnation. government officials warning of the health problems that ingesting household disinfectant could cause. and a stark reminderfrom mr trump's democratic rivaljoe biden. "don't drink bleach." president trump has since said he wasn't being serious, even though he appeared so at the time. what i was asking a sarcastic, in a very sarcastic question, to the reporters in the room, about disinfectant on the inside. but it does kill it and it would kill it on the hands. meanwhile, more than 50,000 people here have now died from the coronavirus, but in georgia and some other southern states, hairdressers, tattoo parlours and nail salons have already started to reopen. despite warnings from health officials that it's too early for them to do so safely. the belgian government has announced a detailed plan to gradually lift coronavirus restrictions. all shops will be allowed to re—open from the 11th of may and children will return to school the following week, but with a maximum of ten students per class. nearly 7,000 people have died in belgium. that's europe's highest death rate per head of population. president macron has promised to support french restaurants through the coronavirus crisis, saying they represent part of "the art of being french". he held a video conference call with figures from the hospitality industry, including celebrity chefs, some of whom have been forced to start takeaway services. it is not yet clear when businesses will be allowed to reopen. australians and new zealanders have marked their annual day of remembrance for the two countries' war dead with private vigils at home. anzac day has been celebrated for the last 105 years but this year's events have been cancelled or curtailed because of the coronavirus. the time is 8:10am. it's no surprise that the number ofjourneys being made on public transport has dropped dramatically during the lockdown. but now there are warnings that fewer people will be willing to use buses, trains and tubes even after we return to business as usual. yesterday, the government pledged to bail out some transport services so they can survive the pandemic. let's talk now to the greater manchester mayor, andy burnham, who has previously warned that his region's metrolink trams could be mothballed next week without help. good to have you on the programme. good to have you on the programme. good morning. good morning. you made the warning about services being mothballed. does this government announcement help? it certainly helps and i welcome the commitment to help us with funding going forward. two issues. firstly, the government are saying they will not cover a ll government are saying they will not cover all of the costs we are losing which is a challenge because i'm not sure where we will get the money to make up the difference, but secondly, it will only run until june and as you are indicating in your introduction, transport will change for some months, even years ahead of us. because if we are running public transport with social—distancing that means far fewer people are allowed on trams run buses and that means less revenue coming in so it is an appeal to the government, we will need your help here. i have been trying to help here. i have been trying to help the government on the response phase but they will really need to help cities like manchester with a long journey towards recovery on transport. with sounding callous, this is business. supply and demand. if there is no demand, there is no need for supply so all businesses are having to adapt and change. surely this is just the way it has? i think the clue is in the name. it is public transport. businesses depend on this transport system to get their workers into the office or into the factory. this is something that helps us all and in london, the tube that helps us all and in london, the tu be syste m that helps us all and in london, the tube system has always had a public subsidy. that is not the case with our transport system. in many ways it has run as a business. it has made its money from fare revenue sort has not run with a subsidy but now the world has completely changed on us now the world has completely changed on us and there is just no way we have the money to run a full metrolink system when there is just five or 10% of people using it. even if that recovers to 20 or 30% we have a massive shortfall. i have been trying to help the government through this, but you are going to need to support cities like manchester as we kind of make the slow journey towards a full recovery. it's interesting in these times businesses are adapting in many ways. remote working, working from home, more conference call, video conference calls. 0nce from home, more conference call, video conference calls. once upon a you would have been sitting with us in the studio talking face—to—face. is that changes, how have you accounted for that because it seems inevitable that many businesses will continue with this way of working as it has proved to be sustainable. yes, there could be some real benefits from the changes we have all been making an error lives. i would have made a journey to your studio in the past and that's one less car on the road. in the future perhaps we can all do some more home—working. so not everyone going into the office every single day and that of course might help, maybe. maybe more of us will cycle or walk more as part of our commute and that would be a good thing. 0n the other side i think there is a potential negative and many people might think i don't trust public transport any more or you can't get on because they're limiting the numbers so i will just they're limiting the numbers so i willjust go back to the car. so thatis willjust go back to the car. so that is a risk running out of this that is a risk running out of this that we see high levels of congestion on our roads so you have to work with the government on all of these things and it is going to bea of these things and it is going to be a very, very complicated task and i have to say, there is going to be no immediate return to normality, certainly not this year. talking about returns to normality, manchester famed for its two large football teams here. you would have seen football teams here. you would have seen the front page of the sun newspaper this morning talking about premier league matches returning, being done behind closed doors. what is your view on that? how would it benefit manchester? of course, with our two great clubs, the city benefits so much from premier league football. the talk of it returning will lift a lot of people at this morning but there may be some mixed reviews i think on the completion of the last premier league season. i think some people might be hoping that, the people hoping to be champions might actually not finally get there but let's leave that one to one side. the serious point as eve ryo ne to one side. the serious point as everyone will want to see the return of premier league football but but how do you practically do that if we we're talking about social—distancing? we're talking about social—distancing ? is that we're talking about social—distancing? is that having a crowd that's quarter of the size with empty seats around? i don't know practicality is of that. it seems to me to be massive as well, yes it is nice to have some talk of football returning but i don't think it will be anytime soon if i am honest. we will be talking to former chief constable of greater manchester. i wondered if you wanted to give a view on what has been going on in manchester. reports of police having to break up large gatherings, parties, finds have been issued. what's your feeling about how greater manchester is approaching locked—in and the measures and restrictions that have been put in place? i have to say the people have been brilliant to be honest. the vast majority of people have observed the rules and what the government has been saying and it's only a small minority but the police we re only a small minority but the police were honest about that, there was a problem with some people having house parties. we have been working ha rd house parties. we have been working hard with our councils to identify the repeat offenders and those numbers are coming down thankfully. i think they have been getting the balance right if i'm honest. i don't think it would have been right to have a very heavy—handed approach to this but where problems, particularly with parties they have focused on that and have used legislations and have charged them, prosecuted somebody who was holding those parties and that was right to so those parties and that was right to soi those parties and that was right to so i think the chief constable and greater manchester police have got the balance right. andy burnham, good to see you even if you are not in the studio with us this morning. joining us now is the former chief constable of greater manchester police, sir peter fahy. i wonder if you could pick up more widely across the uk. what's your ta ke widely across the uk. what's your take on how people have responded and how police forces have responded? you talked earlier about president macron about the art of being french. perhaps the art of being french. perhaps the art of being british is british people don't like the power of the state never had a national police force so on the whole the approach in the british way of people complying because they want to, they see the sense behind it. and actually there has been a very low level of enforcement. but the police have had to concentrate on a relatively small group of people, often a different way of life, disregard the law anyway, live on the edges of criminality and the police have been able to concentrate on those as andy burnham was describing. what do you do when people are determined to float what is you quite rightly point out people are effectively consenting to the restrictions put on them. but for those people who consistently carry on floating those rules, what does a police force to? there is a challenge because there's not a power of entry for the premises to break up a house party but on the hand police are used to dealing with noisy parties, they know the areas and characters that will be involved so as andy has said they will be working with local authorities using legislation, working with housing authorities and other agencies to concentrate on those people using other forms of legislation. and that is really what the police want to concentrate on. a lot of the forces have seen a big increase in complaints from the public, complaining about neighbours, about what they see as breaches of the regulations. and the police will struggle to deal with that. they want to concentrate on the bigger gatherings on making sure that rules are observed in the parks and the parks can be open for everybody to take exercise but overall, as has been said, there has been an incredible level of compliance by the british people and that will be really important that that will be really important that that continues over the next few weeks. wind government advice at this stage is very clear they are not putting a timetable on relaxing they lockdown. criteria will be looked at in the future but i guess ina way looked at in the future but i guess in a way as and when that happens it will present another challenge for police forces, individually, who we re police forces, individually, who were trying to determine how they go about dealing with things as they change, as he advice changes?” think this is really important. i think this is really important. i think police will be very nervous about things like more and more shops opening or even i have heard suggestions that gatherings will be limited to ten people from two households. the police do not want to have to get into the game of having to count how many people rna house. the police do not want to be called to have to deal with anything like that. i it's really important that businesses and organisations police themselves and the public can see the sense in that and feel they can use the services without feeling in anyway at risk of other people not observing the rules. interesting to speak to you. here's helen with a look at this morning's weather. we will see more sunshine today but it is subtle change taking place. some fog behind me in pembrokeshire, extensively for the east coast counties. that will go today but gradually we are seeing an increased chance of showers over the weekend and it will turn cooler from the north but yes we will see plenty more sunshine as well. that is already evident this morning as you can see this swathe of low cloud shrouded in the lincolnshire walls, the pennines, some of south—east scotland. it clears away, some low level mist and fog the course of the south—west and south wales for example but clutching at straws there is enough a lot of fine weather to be had with strong april sunshine coming through it will clear and we're looking at a warm day. 23 yesterday, probably 21 the high today. i need to mention the pollen levels. high for many areas of england and wales and parts of northern ireland and scotland and also a chance later this afternoon of one or two showers bring up over the moors of south—west england and the moors of south—west england and the mountains and hills of wales. they will continue into the evening, perhaps drifting further east, the same time this curl of cloud and showery rain, low pressure moving into the western isles of scotland. here there will be a chance of showers but mostly frost free just a bit on the chilly side for east anglia. even though we are going to see these slow changes in the weather, they well be slow because it's a very slack whether pattern as you can see. that low pressure coming to the north introducing colder air so that will be the notable difference tomorrow. we talking about those sharp showers that will invigorate that line of showers, they could be heavier tomorrow with under around and also as well the shower will get heavier is that low—pressure approaches in the north tomorrow with hail and thunder and it will be colder for most parts of scotland and northern ireland. 20 today, possibly belfast and glasgow about 13 or 14 tomorrow. slightly lower pollen levels but still high for much of england and wales. we're still just still high for much of england and wales. we're stilljust about holding onto that warmer, still sunshine into monday but those northerly winds are with us so we will see quite big changes as we head into next week because it will feel colder than it has. there will still be some sunshine around, particularly across southern areas but you can see showers coming from the north, possibly from the south so the north, possibly from the south so it looks distinctly more u nsettled so it looks distinctly more unsettled but again not a wash—out. showers much—needed for many gardens at the moment and those will become more of a feature of our weather. probably somewhat longer spells of rain and winds as well but for the weekend, for many, still a lot of dry quite sunny weather, feeling more in that strong april sunshine with light breeze. we'll be talking to captain tom moore injust under an hour. he's the second world war veteran who walked a hundred laps of his garden to raise nearly £30 million for nhs charities. unbelievable. £30 million for nhs charities. he only set out to raise unbelievable. he only set out to raise 1000. but how much of that cash will the charities actually get? paul lewis has been looking into this for radio 4's money box. he joins us from london. good morning to you. no one is in dispute about what a brilliant achievement this is by captain tom moore. and we had the big night in which raised £27 million but it has been an ongoing conversation about how the money is used once the charities get this? yes, it's more about the platform too. captain tom moore goes through a platform called just giving which is the biggest, £4 billion of charity money has gone through it over the years and things have changed. they used to take 5% of what you gave plus another couple of what you gave plus another couple of percent for processing fees and things like that. that has changed now. instead of taking 5%, they ask you to make a voluntary contribution towards their costs and in captain tom moore's case they ask you to give another £2 if you give £20 so that's on top of the money, not out of the money. so, what is the contribution that is being asked for actually used for? what they say reasonably enough as they pay for the infrastructure and making sure it works and all that has to be paid for and it's a private company, it does, in theory, make profit as well. it's not clear quite how much it has made in the last couple of yea rs it has made in the last couple of years but it is a private company. there is an alternative, virgin money giving which is not—for—profit. they charge about 4.5% of what you give it again if you want to, you can pay that yourself on top of what you give to make sure that the £20 you give all those the charity and the extra to give it to virgin money giving to be able to... for them to carry on doing the work they do. we are struggling slightly for some of the sound but i will persist for a moment. i remember saying at some point when we were looking at the fundraiser that just giving point when we were looking at the fundraiser thatjust giving dead wave some amount of the money it was taking —— justgiving wave some amount of the money it was taking -- justgiving what justgiving tell me is they normally take about a percent that's before the extra money you're asked to contribute. it's about 3%. it says that out of that money which i reckon without getting complicated is about £800,000 it has given back 100 thousand pounds to the fund so it has made that back but it still taking the money for the processing fees and etc 10% and that's the sort of... if you want there is a drop—down box you can pay nothing if you choose to. pay, five, ten or 15% and other has an option to pay nothing if you want to their costs. if everybody paid 10% they would make 10% of that £30 million which is nearly £3 million. thank you very much. apologies for the slight drop out and sound. i will tell you that paul is back at midday today with money box and also the money box podcast. the team will look at the general rules with how it comes to raising money other charges related to it. some of the first british people to be affected by the coronavirus outbreak were those who were stuck on board cruise ships. the government says the last of them has now been flown home, but elsewhere it's estimated that there are as many as ten thousand uk citizens in india, as jagdip cheema reports. rural punjab, known as the breadbasket of india, is usually a bustling state. but with the lockdown into a fifth week, the north—western state, like much of india, is at a standstill. that's left many uk citizens in limbo. as many as 10,000 people are desperate to return home. the majority of them are in the punjab. initially i was here for a family wedding. i was due back to be in the uk on the 22nd of march. i'm still here. i've tried my best to get in touch with the fco, the ctm and my mp but i'm not getting any luck, whatsoever. so i feel like i'm being kept in the dark. hello. families back in the uk are also struggling with the situation. this woman's 85—year—old mother who has a chronic heart condition and asthma urgently requires a blood test. she just wants to be home. and despite numerous e—mails to the foreign office, i've heard nothing back. just radio silence. i haven't slept properly, i have neglected the kids, and for the first time in my life i am on anti—anxiety medication. last month, foreign secretary dominic raab pledged £75 million to put on special flights to bring nationals home. officials in the indian capital say it's a very complex operation. india is 12 times the size of the uk, sojust moving people huge distances is quite a challenge and on top of that, we have a very strict lockdown here. it's effectively a curfew operating across india so it's very difficult to get the clearances and permission to move people around in what is, i guess, the world's largest lockdown. with many countries in lockdown and no scheduled passengerflights, getting people back is proving to be challenging. so far, over 30 special flights have left india, bringing home some 7000 passengers. however, with thousands still trapped, it's going to take weeks for the backlot to clear. we will be speaking to the medical director of nhs england injust a moment. the headlines coming up. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. coming up before nine we have the sport and weather but first, today's main story. let's speak now to professor stephen powis, who is the medical director for nhs england. good morning, thank you for your time. many issues to get through this morning and we would like to get through as many as we can if possible. i know first of all, we would like to talk about these figures in relation to a&e emissions. they have fallen by half ina very emissions. they have fallen by half in a very recent period of time, much concern about that. so of course the nhs has been pulling out the stops to manage the surge in coronavirus patients that we have seen over coronavirus patients that we have seen over the past month and of course, all of my colleagues in the nhs have done a fantasticjob, we have not seen the health service overwhelmed the way it has been in other countries so i think that has been a superb effort. of course, the nhs is always open for emergencies for non—covert 19 conditions. we are really encouraging people who have symptoms that aren't related to coronavirus, chest pain, facial weakness, pregnant women perhaps whose baby's weakness, pregnant women perhaps whose ba by‘s movements weakness, pregnant women perhaps whose baby's movements have reduced. the things that you always have access to the nhs for, calling 111, 999 in emergencies, calling your gp. don't forget to do that, speeders of the essence in these conditions and you must remember that nhs is open for those conditions as well and we wa nt for those conditions as well and we want you to access our services. professor, can you quantify how many lives may have been lost because i think the terminology is for indirect deaths, is there any way of quantifying that? you or i think it will be some time before we can quantify deaths. the chief medical 0fficer quantify deaths. the chief medical officer on a number of occasions has explained that there are deaths due to the direct effects of coronavirus infection, we have been seeing those deaths, the deaths that occur when health services are overwhelmed and asi health services are overwhelmed and as i say, that hasn't happened here which is good news. there are deaths because the nhs and health services had to focus on coronavirus and that is exactly why we have that campaign this weekend to ensure that people don't forget to come to the nhs if they have emergencies. then, there is the economic effects in the long term so probably it will be some time, perhaps many years before we can have an estimate here and in other countries of the harm that has occurred. but don't forget, this is a global pandemic, it is a once in a century, pandemics cause harm to individuals, and calm in populations and it will, as i say be some time before we know how this pandemic has affected the population. would it be true to say that lives are being lost and will be lost because people are not presenting themselves as they would have done it at other times? well, it would be true to say that we are concerned that clearly we have seen a reduction in a&e attendances, there will be some conditions we see less of, fewer people on the roads, fewer accidents, less major trauma. people on the roads, fewer accidents, less majortrauma. if everybody is self isolating and staying at home, there may be less infections being transmitted, other than coronavirus. but, it is clear that we have seen that reduction and what we absolutely want people to do, as i've said is remember that if you do have a condition, particularly an emergency that is not coronavirus, you should not be afraid of accessing health care services, we want you to call 111, call your gp or call 999 first but the nhs is there for you. can you bring us up—to—date with the situation in relation to the new government website that is open for testing. i know there were problems yesterday, the system was overwhelmed by that demand. this morning, it has reopened. what has been happening? so, i have not caught up with it this morning but as you say yesterday it opened and there was clearly a large demand, thatis there was clearly a large demand, that is of course good because the government has been aiming to ensure that it expands testing, particularly ski workers, we have been testing key workers in the nhs, particularly in hospitals, particularly in hospitals, particularly who are symptomatic in order to get them back to work but quite rightly that is now extended toa quite rightly that is now extended to a greater variety of key workers, so to a greater variety of key workers, soiam to a greater variety of key workers, so i am pleased that people are accessing the website and i'm sure as the days go on and more appointments are available, people will be able to access the tests that they need but... if i'm a professor, can i just that they need but... if i'm a professor, can ijust share one e—mail we have, it is interesting hearing from people who are trying to access the service, sandy says, trying to get an appointment for testing at atm this morning due to being a front line key worker. unable to as it appears to have reached capacity. how can this be within seconds of opening? does that make sense, what does that mean? well, capacity is expanding all the time, so clearly there aren't many people accessing the website, as i said it is important, it is a test of whether you have the virus, not whether you have had it in the past and of course, access it if you have symptoms, a cough, fever, it is important that you access it. but, more capacity is coming so i would urge people who fit in those criteria, key workers, to go back onto the website is more appointments become available. how many appointments become available. how ma ny tests appointments become available. how many tests are available today? so, we are going at capacity of 50,000, the aim is to get to over 100,000 by thursday and the nhs, in particular, we have committed to a capacity of 25,000 within nhs laboratories and we are on a trajectory for that capacity to be in place. can i ask, i want to run through a couple of other issues and largely reported in the papers today in relation to specific things to do with relaxation of social distancing, for example, the front page of the sun is talking about how football may start next month behind closed doors. i appreciate the official government position is that there is no guidance on that now, but can you establish from a medical and scientific point of view, is it possible for footballers to play football and be safe? well, i think the first thing to say is that it is really important that currently, we are ina really important that currently, we are in a position where it is really important that people keep to the current social distancing guidance that the government has given, that is clearly having a benefits, the rate of transmission has reduced, the number of hospital admissions has reduced and we are beginning to see a fall in people on intensive ca re see a fall in people on intensive care units and we will start to see a fall care units and we will start to see afall in care units and we will start to see a fall in deaths shortly, i am confident of that. so, i absolutely understand why people want to speculate for the weeks and months ahead but i think we should really focus on the here and now, we are still in the early stages of this disease and managing this disease and it is really important that people don't forget, especially on a weekend when the weather may be good for parts of the country that we need to comply and stay at home as much as possible. looking forward, of course there will be many options, combinations for the government to look at, it is ourjob as scientists and medics to advise government but it is for government to decide what those combinations of measures should be going forward and thatis measures should be going forward and that is quite right. i appreciate that is quite right. i appreciate that that decision is a political one, i wasjust that that decision is a political one, i was just curious as to the specifics of football for example, whether it could be possible for a football match to be played in terms of those individuals playing? well, at some point in the future i am sure it will be possible for football to be played, i wouldn't wa nt to football to be played, i wouldn't want to comment on whether that would be in a few weeks' time or months' time. understood. one last thing, iam months' time. understood. one last thing, i am very careful, as i know you are, when we talk about numbers in relation to the number of deaths because these are individuals and families and every statistic we talk about is a harrowing story for someone, about is a harrowing story for someone, but there is a quote from you which dates back to march which is four weeks ago, and you said that if the uk could keep deaths under 20,000, we would have done very well in this epidemic. now, clearly, circumstances have changed and time has passed, and we are very close to those numbers, tragically. how do you reflect now on what you were hoping for then as compared with where we are today? well as you say, that was a number of weeks ago and i was quoting a quote from patrick vallance. i think what patrick and i we re vallance. i think what patrick and i were both trying to say or trying to highlight when we said that was that this is a new virus, this is a com pletely this is a new virus, this is a completely new virus and it is going to be incredibly challenging, as we have found, as many countries have found, it is going to be incredibly challenging to deal with it. i think we have done very well in the nhs and ensuring that capacity as i was been there and the health service has not been overwhelmed, but at the time, it was really emphasising just what a challenge it is. this is a once ina what a challenge it is. this is a once in a hundred years pandemic, probably we haven't seen anything like this since the 1918 spanish flu epidemic. the fact of the matter is that, as i have said, global pandemics cause harm in they cause harm in all sorts of ways as i described. so, what! harm in all sorts of ways as i described. so, what i was setting out, what patrick was setting out was just to be honest about the challenge of what was going to be heard. we have seen that challenge over the past month, the nhs has done fantastically in coping with it, but it is not over, as the chief medical officer says, we are going to have to continue to keep fighting, keep combating this virus, we are going to have to have some degree of social distancing measures for some time, until hopefully a vaccine or medication comes along. this is not a short sprint, this is going to be a longer term fight against this virus. stephen powis, thank you. it is 80 minutes to nine, we we re thank you. it is 80 minutes to nine, we were talking about the story of premier league football perhaps taking place behind closed doors. mike, you are listening intently to his answers there. yes, at the moment, football fans will cling to any kind of hope whether it be weeks or months away that saturday afternoons will be full of football again albeit on tv, the government hopes that its free to air tv as well. but, talks are taking place, could we see the return of live football soon, a government has told... that would include premier league matches but being played behind closed doors. it's been six long weeks before we last saw any premier league action, that was when the league was suspended in the middle of march but there are so many caveats to any kind of return. firstly, it wouldn't happen before may the 7th with a next review of the lockdown, the go—ahead would depend on the government meeting the key five tests, a fall of infection rates, clubs would then have to meet additional criteria, including the regular testing of players and ensuring the safety of staff, but a government source said that watching live sport on free tv would give the country a huge lift and earlier we heard from the shadow health secretary on this as well. we need to understand what the medical and scientific advices, but if that is that it could go ahead is behind closed doors in a safe way, of course we would support it. now this might worry liverpool and leeds fans..in dutch football, they've decided to end the season — but nul and void it — so no champions, promotion or relegation so there will be no repeat of last season's champions party for ajax and they were top on goal difference again however if uefa ratify the decision, they would still qualify for next season's champions league there's no suggestion this could happen in england yet. players would need around three weeks training to get ready when the season does resume , maybe less if you're the machine that is james milner the liverpool star has been showing off his ability to plank. football focus have a done an interview with the midfielder conducted entirely, while he and the reporter asking questions, were in full plank. you can guess who struggled most. lam iamso i am so ready. what is your last meal? tempi pure prawns to start, main course... why are you going into three courses? just one meal james. temp your prawns, desert would be apple crumble and let's say toad in the hole. i am sorry, but your core is a joke. that was just one question ...see how long they lasted ..the full feature is on football focus, with dan, here on bbc one, at midday. the world record for planking was set this year by a 62 —year—old american. . .8 hours. .15 minutes 15 seconds... now while people are used to seeing joseph parker in the boxing ring, — remember the former heavy weight champion, was beaten by anthonyjoshua, a couple of years ago. now the new zealander has become, an unlikely star of the lockdown, with his musical videos on social media. i had a chat with him yesterday. in a kitchen in new zealand, a star is born. but was this talent always hiding injoseph parker and the rest of the world just didn't know it until it came out during lockdown? i was shy growing up. i think with the boxing and with talking to a lot of people and doing press conferences and this and that, it's given me confidence within myself and it's given me confidence to come out and be myself, and everything i've done leading up to this point, you know, has been... i thank boxing for it. all sing. and now his talents have been unleashed, there is no stop him... 0rthem. a choir ofjoseph parkers in a car showing the level of production and editing skills involved in the movies, while it's also bringing his family closer. leading into fights, you know, i'm very serious. imagine if i did this before a fight, people would think, "ah, you know, he's mucking around and not taking this seriously," but having this lockdown has given me time to build relationships with my daughters, my partner, but also given me time to be myself and also have fun. his musical talents and his heavyweight clout have enabled parker to persuade his boxing friends and rivals to join in too, although world heavyweight champion tyson fury didn't need too much persuading. the first person to agree and the first person to send me a video was tyson fury. we are very close friends, but he's all about having fun, he's all about encouraging others and giving others something to smile at and have a laugh, and i think all of us coming together actually achieved that goal. but when lockdown is over, parker, who became heavyweight champion in 2016, will be back in the ring and he's already challenged dillian whyte to a rematch. i know we had a great first fight. he won, he was the better man on the day, but i believe i can't beat him. i know he's chasing champion of the world, he wants to be champion of the world, but if no—one else wants to fight him, i'm here, always keen and ready, so i would love to fight him and have a rematch. beyond that, parker wants to unify the world heavyweight divisions, taking on the likes of tyson fury or anthonyjoshua before he retires. that fight would be awesome. i think everyone wants to one person rule the division, and i think it's a no—brainer really, it should happen, but itjust comes down to everyone involved hopefully coming to terms and make it happen. and when parker does finally hang up his gloves, will a career then in the musicals beckon and can he actually sing? i wish i could! i can play the guitar, the piano, i'm learning the drums, i can play the triangle, but i can't sing. what are you doing now? cleaning the car. we have all unearthed our little talents during lockdown, mine would have to be diy skills, what about you? absolutely none. what diy did you? absolutely none. what diy did you do mike? put up a picture and planted some seeds. they have grown, they haven't dried. don't belittle that, i put up a bat through hawk on the door the other day and i was —— i put the door the other day and i was —— iput upa the door the other day and i was —— i put up a bathroom hook on the door. i was impressed with it. thank you mike, we will see you later on. have you found the talent? helen, what have you discovered about yourself that you didn't already know? quite good at cleaning, my husband is digging a terrace in our garden so i am good at watching and making cups of tea. and instructing helen, iam bet making cups of tea. and instructing helen, i am bet you're good at that. and providing the weather forecast as well. he is building a terrace? yes, he is building a terrace in our garden. it is good to have a project in these times. yes, he has been going at it since september but it has accelerated over the last couple of weeks. weather—wise, a real contrast, this is saint david's in pembrokeshire, underneath a blanket of misty low cloud but that will clear away and the sunshine will come to eventually but there is a chance of showers this weekend although as you can see, there will bea although as you can see, there will be a good deal of sunshine as well. let me show you the satellite picture, ourfirst look at let me show you the satellite picture, our first look at satellite picture, our first look at satellite picture across the uk, you can see the extensive low cloud there right the extensive low cloud there right the way down across eastern england, it is made it's way and across the midlands and the home counties. misty low cloud in southern and western areas as well but there is sunshine in the west. at this time of year, sunshine in april is as strong as the sunshine in august so that cloud will slowly continue to lift and melt away so by lunchtime, we should see it clear away from eastern counties although here it will be a bit cooler. the most, some sunshine, a few showers may be developing across the mothers of the south—west and wales, just starting see an increase in stability in the atmosphere, temperature is not quite as high as yesterday by a degree or so, it will feel cooler today for the north coast and northern ireland as well, but warm again, in the strong sunshine with high levels of pollen still in the tree pollen season at the moment but we are nudging towards grass as we head towards may. through this evening, we will still have a few showers potentially around across the welsh mountains, the south west moors, possibly drifting further eastwards on this scale of showers in the north, so a subtle change bringing some showers this evening in the western northern isles. more cloud around there and more breeze but it will still be chilly across east anglia, could be close to freezing in some areas. the reason for that low pressure in the north of this area of low pressure coming down from the north is the reason that things are slowly starting to change but with such a slack weather pattern, whether pressure pattern, it is just pattern, whether pressure pattern, it isjust a pattern, whether pressure pattern, it is just a slow process so tomorrow, i think again, quite a good deal of dry, sunny, warm weather across the south, low cloud and mist around the coast and in the east but not exclusively. the band of showers may well reinvigorate in central areas and there will be heavy and thundery further north but notice the difference in temperature, 18, 19, 24 that the central and lowlands of scotland, significantly lower tomorrow but the pollen levels are still pretty high tomorrow. sharper showers tomorrow and that is because you have this cold air diving southwards coming right the way down from the polls and obviously things have been warm so and obviously things have been warm soa and obviously things have been warm so a bit more energy around so sharp showers continuing on that same weather system, that same weather band on monday, triggered by the warmth in the south, much chillier further north, in fact cold and potentially thought there were showers right on the top of the mountains to be falling asleep on snow but in contrast, warmth and the south but also showers gathering to the south, so just this gradual change to more unsettled conditions, a greater chance of some rain for the gardens and less of the prolonged sunshine that we have seen through this past week. helen, thank you very much. charlie is in a judgmental mood today, he was talking about how long your husband has been taken to make that terrace. but he is only doing it at the weekends, and we have got a steep garden, shall we say. he measures every weekend but it is coming on and the kids are helping as well which is great to see. that is it thatis which is great to see. that is it that is a great defence of your husband. i put a bathroom hook and i was pleased, i just husband. i put a bathroom hook and i was pleased, ijust had a message from donna, she is very cheese because she has used an electric screwdriver to tighten the hinges on her door and she is pleased with herself. new forms of robot deliveries are proving popular during the lockdown. the government has approved a trial which will see drones carrying medical supplies from hampshire to the isle of wight. the secretary of state for transport, grant shapps said a planned trial of the technology would be brought forward and begin next week. just before we start, talking about new skills, my wife has been watching youtube videos about cutting hair, so i am nervous. so, does that mean we will come back to you in the next hour and we will see that happen? no, she needs more practice. tells about the drones. well, this is quite an interesting experiment, people have been talking about using drones. the thing is, there's been a plan to do this in there's been a plan to do this in the uk, allow it to happen, and of course now it is being accelerated, this is not the kind of drone that we are used to seeing, the sort of small battery—powered drone, this is a big fixed wing affair, it is called a wind races ultra drone, it is petrol powered, it looks like a small plane and can carry quite substantial loads. the trial will see equipment taken from hampshire across to a hospital on the isle of wight, we would normally go by ferry, the ferry services disrupted, it can do this in just ten minutes so it can do this in just ten minutes so you it can do this in just ten minutes so you can see it can do this in just ten minutes so you can see why it would be useful, but it is a kind of cautious go—ahead for a trial of something that could be quite common in the future. have you seen these up close ? future. have you seen these up close? i have not seen them up close, i have seen a video of them, they are quite substantial machines, they are quite substantial machines, they are quite substantial machines, they are very different from the hobby drones that we see that are used for all sorts of things, used a lot forfilming used for all sorts of things, used a lot for filming obviously, used for all sorts of things, used a lot forfilming obviously, for surveillance of power lines and so on, this is a particular kind of drone. this is the kind of thing that has been experimented with around the world, particularly in remote places, i have seen schemes in africa are getting blood supplies across in africa are getting blood supplies a cross very in africa are getting blood supplies across very difficult terrain to remote places and there's been a lot of talk about this coming to the uk and so for not a lot of action and what we have seen promised, by amazon in particular, is that we might get parcels delivered by drone, they have got an experimental station in cambridge which has been trying that out, i have always thought that looked a bit unlikely, i can't quite imagine a drone hovering over my terraced home in west london and dropping a parcel, but over long distances, it might become practical and, these circumstances are seeing a lot of innovation suddenly accelerating. on the face of it, the way you explain it, getting things across water and areas that might be quite difficult, there doesn't seem to be it a downside, it is all about whether it works, simple as that. yes, if it is practical and economic and the other question is when we get back to normal, will this be seen as economic, when all the transport links are working properly, but there is great faith in the industry around drones that they can be used in all sorts of inventive ways. rory, i know that technology is your thing, it is a time when in all sorts of different spheres of life, in peoples homes but also in technology, innovation and industry, there are a lot of things being rethought, isn't there? yes, another service that i've been looking at, people in milton keynes trundling along the pavements, that is a service that has been around for a couple of years, again i thought it was very clever, i went to see the company that was behind it, an estonian company and i never thought it really stood up, tiny plastic crates on wheels, trundling around the pavements, you always thought there was a danger of vandalism, a danger of them not getting there, but that service, in these sort of extraordinary times is apparently absolutely booming, people ordering absolutely booming, people ordering a takeaway or a few groceries via an app, the robots trundling down the streets, arrives at their door, no contact with the delivery person, no sort of dangerous contact but you just unlock it with an app and off you go, so a just unlock it with an app and off you go, so a lot of innovation suddenly accelerating. rory, can i just pick up on the youtube, would you message charlie the youtube video that your wife is watching because you know we enjoy conversations about charlie's hair and wejust conversations about charlie's hair and we just wondering about how big it will get before he succumbs a haircut. i will do some research, my wife bought some clippers a few weeks ago and she is getting more and more excited and i'm getting more and more frightened. i am also hoping to raise money for parkinson's uk, a charity i am supporting, we were talking about the 26 challenge earlier, i am going to be doing that as well so, good to see you earlier rory, thank you. 03:00:18,525 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 headlines are coming up.

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