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2—0 against wigan athletic. in one against wigan athletic. good afternoon and welcome to bbc news. us vice president mike pence, who's on a visit to south korea, has warned that his country's "era of strategic patience" with north korea is over. it comes as south korea and the united states agreed to speed up a defence system designed to intercept north korean missiles, something china views as a threat to its own military. stephen evans reports. the american vice president went to the front line, the demilitarised zone between north and south korea, what he called the frontier of freedom. for him, the visit was personal because his father fought in the korean war. from the other side today, north korean guards looked back and took pictures. vice president pence‘s mission today, to affirm support for the alliance between the us and south korea. we will defeat any attack and we will meet any use of conventional or nuclear weapons with an overwhelming and effective response. over the past 18 months, north korea has conducted two unlawful nuclear tests and an unprecedented number of ballistic missile tests, even conducting a failed missile launch as i travelled here for this visit. the era of strategic patience is over. on saturday, north korea displayed row upon row of missiles. on sunday, a day later, they fired a dud, anotherfailure, and some experts wonder how many of the missiles on display would actually work. in the far north of the country, the ground is ready for another nuclear test. debris can be spotted from the air after tunnelling. the us has started installing an anti—missile system in south korea. mr pence said all options were now on the table, implying that attacking north korea remains possible, despite warnings that that could spark war. what remains unclear is how the trump administration is going to persuade or force kim jong—un to renounce his nuclear ambitions. everything is on the table, we are told, but they are starting to talk now about the military option not being quite to the fore. north korea fires off missiles frequently. sometimes they succeed and sometimes they fail. would the us attack north korea if it thought a long—range missile launch was about to happen? nobody knows. mr trump says his policy is tougher than those of his predecessors, but that assertion is yet to be proven. stephen evans, bbc news, south korea. rear admiral and former nato commander chris parry is in portsmouth. mid—afternoon. good afternoon. what is your interpretation of mike pence‘s comments? is your interpretation of mike pence's comments? i think the united states is indicating it has a comprehensive strategy in place for dealing with north korea. it has probably been agreed with the chinese. that the time has come now to put some disk trains on this regime. interested in what you say about probably agrees with the chinese. that potentially takes things quite a long way forward, does it not? yes. i think the groundwork was laid when their present went to florida. it is inconceivable the united states would have acted without clearing some of what it is doing with the chinese in advance. after all both the chinese have the americans have an interest in restraining north korea and making sure that what is essentially a regional conflict does not become an international one. there is a further point as well and thatis there is a further point as well and that is china will not want a vast amount of american firepower in its local area for the considerable future. it has its own interests in the asia—pacific and it will want to keep the americans themselves at arms length. you talk about restraint and that that will happen. what form do you think it will take? looking at the way things are building, andi looking at the way things are building, and i suspect there will bea building, and i suspect there will be a combination of diplomatic, economic... inaudible for give me, inaudible forgive me, i'm inaudible for give me, i'm afraid we will have to try to re—establish some link later on. as you saw, the line gave up later on. as you saw, the line gave up on us, sadly. we will try to go back to that later on. prince harry has revealed that he has had counselling to help him come to terms with the death of his mother, princess diana. the prince told the daily telegraph that he spent 20 years not thinking about the death of his mother when he was 12 — but eventually sought help after two years of "chaos". mental health charities have welcomed the prince's decision to speak so candidly. our royal correspondent peter hunt has more. this is a senior royal as we've never seen or heard them before. prince harry is the most high—profile person yet to talk personally about his mental anguish. in doing so, he's hoping to break the taboo that still surrounds mental health. as a child, harry, with his brother william, had a close, fun relationship with diana, princess of wales. she was, according to the prince, quite simply the best mum in the world. in 1997, with quite literally the world watching, harry walked behind his mother's coffin after she'd been killed in a car crash in paris. as an adult, 20 years on, he is now talking about the impact of his bereavement. i can safely say that losing my mum at the age of 12 and therefore shutting down all of my emotions for the last 20 years has had a quite serious effect on not only my personal life but also my work as well. my way of dealing with it was refusing to ever think about my mum, because why would that help? it's only going to make you sad. it's not going to bring her back. growing up, not confronting his mother's death, prince harry suffered anxiety and came close to a breakdown. eventually, after being encouraged by william, he saw a counsellor. all of a sudden, all of this grief i'd never processed started to come to the forefront. i was like, there's actually a lot of stuff i need to deal with. it was 20 years of not thinking about it and then two years of total chaos. as i'm sure you know, some of the easiest people to speak to are shrinks — i know the americans call them shrinks — someone you've never met before. you sit down and say, listen, i don't actually need your advice. can you just listen? just listen to me. and you just let it all rip. you've done that, have you? i've done that a couple of times, more than a couple. it's great. to have someone of his profile talking so openly about stuff in his head is so important. i can't even begin to tell you how important. if, when i was 12 and i first got ill, if members of the royals were standing up and talking about their mental health, i think how different the subsequent decades could have been. kate, william and harry are behind a heads together campaign that is being supported by the london marathon. the racing royals with influence hope it will be a mental health marathon. peter hunt, bbc news. earlier my colleague julian worricker spoke to paul farmer, the chief executive of the mental health charity mind, and asked him how significant it was that prince harry had spoken out. lee for a member of the royal family to be open about is own personal struggles, to say he sought help, we know this will go a long way to reducing the stigma but also encouraging other people to seek help as well. and how typical was the experience he described, of losing someone as close as in this case his mother, and thenjust trying to not think about it for such a long period of time? we have already heard from a lot of people just two day about how his comments have resonated with people. because grief as a result of bereavement is an incredibly common emotion. it is something almost all of us will experience at some point in our lives and still we don't necessarily have the equipment to know exactly what the right thing to do is. some people find it natural, they are able to talk openly about it, others will bottle it up, use the old british stiff upper lip and say they cannot cope orjust not know the language of the right person to talk to. so this is a very common issue being brought to the fore by someone who lives in a very extraordinary environment. and even many years on something can trigger the need to suddenly react in a different way.|j think that is right. one of the things we know about grief and about loss is that if you don't talk about it, if you are not open about it, it will never completely be boxed away u nless will never completely be boxed away unless you have the opportunity to pull it out again. it might be another event in your life or something like that that has an impact. of course, the stigma built inside you, so that is why the work of the heads together campaign and the times change campaign are so important. it means he can say these things now and people will say it is a normal thing to do. and when someone a normal thing to do. and when someone is— profile as him says the things he has said, what impact scam that have on someone who has been perhaps on the brink of talking about it but has not yet?|j perhaps on the brink of talking about it but has not yet? i think we have seen with the heads together campaign, this is a huge build—up to the start of the marathon, but every time someone in the public eye speaks openly about their own mental health problems, it encourages ordinary people to talk openly but secondly and most importantly it might encourage that person to then seek help from mind or their gp or doctor or whoever they might need in terms of help and support. it is helping more people to talk but it is also encouraging more people to seek help and that is an important first step. paul farmer of mind reacting to what prince harry has said. chelsea fc have just released a statement thatjohn terry and chelsea fc, that john statement thatjohn terry and chelsea fc, thatjohn terry will leave at the end of the season and eve ryo ne leave at the end of the season and everyone at stamford bridge wishes him the rest. president erdogan of turkey has pledged to press ahead with sweeping changes to the country's political system — after narrowly securing support for plans to increase presidential powers in a referendum. the main opposition party in turkey says it will challenge the result. our correspondent mark lowen reports from ankara. victory, but not as sweet as they'd hoped. government supporters partied into the night, confident they'd won this referendum. it was though with a narrow margin. the opposition cried foul but, for those celebrating, a chance to assert their win and warn it's irreversible. translation: we are the winners, the people have won, and that's the best. god willing, we'll have better days to come. president erdogan believes he has a mandate for the biggest political change in modern turkish history. he told supporters everybody must accept the result, which would concentrate huge power in his hands. he even proposed another referendum on restoring the death penalty. that would end turkey's last remaining hopes ofjoining the eu. opposition parties won't fall silent, claiming massive irregularities. they say 1.5 million invalid ballots without an official stamp were counted, and have vowed to contest the result. translation: a wrong decision, an illegal decision made this referendum controversial. we don't find this appropriate and we will pursue this until the end. what was president erdogan‘s pet project has made this country more polarised than ever. pro—government headlines today hailing a revolution of the people. the other side talking of an overshadowed ballot. this vital western ally in a volatile region, still desperately seeking stability. translation: i don't think this is enough, because the result of the referendum is 50—50. it's obvious that a large part of society does not accept this referendum. translation: i don't know what the new system will bring but i am happy, because a person i support has become an executive president. turkey has lost its way. a contested referendum, deep splits, terror attacks, freedom of speech eroded. just a few years ago, this country was held up as a model of a muslim democracy. how far and fast it has fallen. mark lowen, bbc news, ankara. international observers have highlighted serious concerns about turkey's referendum, saying that the ‘yes' campaign had an unfair advantage, including the mis—use of administrative resources. tana de zulueta is the head of the limited election observation mission. we also noted a significant imbalance in the campaign, due among other things to the active involvement of the president, several leading national officials and many local public officials in the yes campaign. our team observed the misuse of administrative resources and the obstruction of efforts by parties and civil society organisations supporting the no campaign. the campaign rhetoric was tarnished by some senior officials equating no supporters with terrorist sympathisers. in numerous cases, no sympathisers faced police interventions and violent scuffles at their events. these events contravene osc commitments, council of europe standards and other international obligations regarding freedom and equality in the campaign. earlier, our correspondent in istanbul, selin girit, gave us this update. the opposition challenging the vote, the governing party and president erdogan saying, let's move on. and the people, on the one hand, jubilant, chanting president erdogan‘s name and celebrating their victory, as they call it and, on the other, shouting and banging pots and pans in protest at what they call the rigging of the vote. it's very difficult to tell what might happen next. there have been criticisms from the international observers as well. they have said the referendum process took place on an uneven, not a level playing field. there were criticisms against the media. the media was labelled as biased towards the government. there were criticisms towards state resources being used by the government and the president unevenly. campaign restrictions were criticised, and the high electoral board's decision to accept unstamped ballot papers as valid was regarded as a late procedural change that was seen as an obstruction and unlawful as well. so these are damning verdicts coming from international this is the scene, live outside the presidential palace. there is the presidential palace. there is the president outside his palace. let's listen in. we have a translation. translation: we want to frank the grand unity party and all the staff and members and all supporters of those political parties and i also would like to thank all our citizens who voted yes in this referendum, irrespective of their political parties. and i also would like to thank ngo's who stood firm in favour of them vote yes and i would like to thank turkey's citizens living abroad. translation: if there is any citizen who voted against the will of the political party, i really understand them. probably this is because we couldn't express ourselves in the appropriate manner. this is definitely because we could not explain the importance of this constitutional amendment in the right manner. as i always say, what matters to us is the manifestation of the will of our nation. thanks, alaa. 25 million people of this country said yes to this constitutional amendment and we accepted this amendment with 25,200,000 votes. therefore, about this issue, this is no longer a controversial issue. —— thank allah. and this constitutional amendment will bring novelties to this country and all these novelties will bring service of our country. it is time for us to show our faith, to direct out for us to show our faith, to direct our face to the future. as the president of the republic of turkey, within our capacity, we will be at the service of our nation, we will continue to work nonstop with it, continue to work nonstop with it, continue to work nonstop with it, continue to walk this path. so far we have always served to our nation with full dedication and love, and similarly from now on we will continue our path with the same determination. my dear brothers and sisters, with this constitutional amendment we now have a new government system. we have made the decision to have the presidential government system of course there will be some circles who will complain about this. you know those circles. and now there will not be any ambiguity in turkey about the elections. there will not be any area of coalitions or any negotiations to form a government. starting from the next elections in november 2019, and before that election we have local elections, in march 2019, and from now on the decision is the decision of the nation. there will not be any word of anyone which is higher than yours. the decision is yours. my dear brothers and sisters, in this square, in this presidential complex, after the 15th ofjuly we we re complex, after the 15th ofjuly we were here together with year 29, we we re were here together with year 29, we were here together with year 29, we were here with you for 29 consecutive nights and on the final night we were here and you were shouting, about bringing back the death penalty, and i responded to you in this way, and i said, after the 16th of april, and the 16th of april is the indication that you have given to us, and i said, if you say yes to this referendum and you know, several people say yes to the death penalty. the leader of the main opposition party also said yes. if it is adopted by the parliament, and if it comes before me i will approve it. but if it does not come that way, we can make another referendum for that as well. so that is a flavour of the president is talking to supporters who voted yes in a referendum. the majority going down on the president's side of the debate, thanking those who voted for him, saying it was a clear decision, the issueis saying it was a clear decision, the issue is no longer controversial he said. interesting reference at the end to the death penalty but, because there is now speculation that there might be a referendum on that there might be a referendum on that in turkey and if they were to vote in favour of a return to the death penalty that would take them significantly further away from any prospect ofjoining the eu at some point in the future. so those are the scenes in turkey. we will bring you more from their, during the evening. some other stories for you 110w. at least 12 people have suffered burns after a suspected acid attack at a nightclub in london. around 600 people were at the venue in hackney, which had to be evacuated. sarah corker reports from outside the club. it was just after 1am this morning when police say acid was sprayed inside this club in east london. we do know that emergency services sent down a hazard response unit. the fire brigade were also there. as you say, 12 people were injured and later treated in hospital. two men, both in their 20s, are in a serious but stable condition and others have been treated for minor burns. the metropolitan police have said they believe there was some kind of dispute between two groups of people. that resulted in one man throwing acid directly at another. 600 people were in the club at the time. it was evacuated. roads in the area were closed off. witnesses have described some scary scenes, in their words. they said they saw people pouring water over one person. police have said they haven't yet identified what this substance was, but they did do a ph paper test which showed it was strongly acidic. there was one officer here earlier in a protective suit, taking pictures and collecting evidence. police have said there have been no arrests but there was nothing to suggest this was gang—related. they have asked anyone for any information about what happened here to contact hackney cid on the 101 number. brighton & hove albion will be promoted to the premier league today for the first time ever they are effectively up. after beating wigan today their promotion could be confirmed tonight if the result of had goes their way. our correspondent simonjones is at the amex stadium in brighton. lots of happy fans as you can see after a 2—1victory, means brighton are after a 2—1victory, means brighton a re pretty after a 2—1victory, means brighton are pretty much in the premier league. they do have to wait a little longer for results will stop i cope you can hear me! let's try to talk to a couple of the fans. our you feeling? fantastic, unbelievable. we were so nervous at the end, it should have been three, four, 5—0. and they scored right at the end. so now it looks like it will be big—time football. the end. so now it looks like it will be big-time football. yeah, premiership! we are up, we are going | premiership! we are up, we are going up! what will this mean? it's the first time, it will be fantastic, i'm sure they will really enjoy it. will they be good enough? what do you think? cheering you are live on bbc news, what you make of the game? good game. the main thing was the result. please fit tony, pleased for chris. fantastic result. why has it gone so right this season? we are a great club, we have done a lot, moved forward , club, we have done a lot, moved forward, you win some, you lose some. fair play to everybody at the club, we deserve it. we still have to wait for the final results of the huddersfield match to make sure. are you worried about that? not at all. we're just going to win the league go to the premiership. as you can see, a lot of happy faces. because the goal difference at brighton is so much different than huddersfield it is pretty much impossible for them not to be promoted. fans are enjoying the moment. it has been a difficult time in recent years, they did not have a ground when it was sold to developers. i will leave you with some of the scenes of the people enjoying their moments after today's victory, it takes right up. mathematically they have to wait for the certainty, but in all, up to the big leagues. simonjones, coping simon jones, coping with simonjones, coping with it all, very admirably. as he was saying, there is still a slight mathematical element to it because huddersfield could reach the same number of points as brighton but their goal difference is far inferior. so we think brighton are pretty much up. let's ta ke let's take a look at the weather. whether looking pretty good this evening for most of us. there is still some cloud out there. he was a picture from shetland. and a sharp frost on the way across the north of the country tonight. just outside of town temperatures will be below freezing and really cold in rural spots. the weather is not clear everywhere, there will be some showers across the east. other than that, it is clear, cities and it averages will be around three or 4 degrees. three or 4 degrees below that outside of time. tomorrow, beautiful weather. hardly a cloud in the sky. north—western parts will be a little cloudier. they will maybe have some spots of rain. but very little rain on the way this week. watch out for the night frosts. this is bbc news, the headlines: us vice president mike pence tells north korea neither the united states nor south korea would tolerate further missile and nuclear tests. the era of strategic patience is over. the era of strategic patience is over. prince harry reveals he's had counselling, after spending nearly 20 years not thinking about his mother's death. turkey's president erdogan has said he'll press ahead with new sweeping powers, after narrowly winning the constitutional referendum. police are investigating an incident in which acid was sprayed inside a london nightclub in the early hours of this morning. now for a look at the sports news. chelsea captainjohn terry has announced he's to leave the club at the end of the season. terry has been at stamford bridge for 22 years and in that time has made the third highest number of appearances for the club. he's won 1a major honours, including four premier league titles, five fa cups and one champions league. in a statement, he said he'll decide on his future in due course, but he's ‘committed to helping the team achieve success this season. it's been a crucial day in the championship. brighton are on the verge of a return to the top flight of english football for the first time in sa years. they beat wigan 2—1, which means they are all but mathematically up, they have a vastly superior goal difference on huddersfield and would have to lose all of their remaining matches which means huddersfield would need a near perfect end to their season if they fail to beat derby in the tea—time kick—off. brighton will be promoted, so far huddersfield have taken an early lead. ipswich beat second placed newcastle 3—1. if huddersfield can win their two games in hand, they will bejust huddersfield can win their two games in hand, they will be just two points behind rafael benitez‘ side. will have maintained their championship play—off hopes with a win over aston villa at craven cottage. leeds united lost at home to wolves. they are in seventh place, but level on points with fulham, but with a worse goal difference. champions league qualification is at stake later when middlesbrough take on arsenal. the hosts are six points from safety while arsene wenger‘s cycle into the game in seventh. he has responded to some criticism that his players lack character. these players have the character, but under difficult circumstances your confidence can go up circumstances your confidence can go up and it can be a bit contagious, therefore it is important and the energy in the team can change in three days. it can come back as well very quickly. we had a good game against west ham and five days later we had a bad game at crystal palace. it can come back quickly and we have to focus on that. manchester city women are still on course for a domestic treble after reaching the final of the women's fa cup. they beat liverpool ladies 1—0 in their semifinal this afternoon. melissa lawley with the goal. while an 88th minute equaliser from chelsea ladies has taken their semifinal against birmingham city into extra time. dundee have sacked boss paul hartley after a run of seven straight defeats. saturday's 2—0 defeat to hamilton left the club in relegation position in the scottish premiership. the chairman of world snooker, barry hearn has responded to accusations of bullying directed at him by ronnie o'sullivan calling them unfounded. the five—time world champion made allegations after his first round win at the world championship yesterday. hearn realesed a statement today saying: this is not the first time ronnie o'sullivan and barry hearn, who has made radical changes, had been in public conflict. jason ferguson, the director of snooker‘s governing body is confident these issues can be sorted out. let me tell you from the chairman of the governing body's point of view and a former player, nobody loves watching ronnie o'sullivan playing snooker more than me. he is a total genius. let's hope we can resolve these issues. i am more than happy to sit down with ronnie and discuss these issues and ta ke ronnie and discuss these issues and take them with barry as well. to today's action then on this the third day of the championship. they're well into the afternoon session at the crucible and shaun murphy, who won this title 12 years ago now, has just taken an 8—5 lead against yan bingtao of china, who's just 17 years old. the world number five the world numberfive had the world number five had a co mforta ble the world number five had a comfortable seven century breaks. you can follow the conclusion of the match on the bbc sport website. earlier the 2015 champion stuart bingham secured his place in the second round, beating another former winner peter ebdon. he was leading 5—4 coming into this morning's session, but won all but one frame today for a comfortable win in the end, by 10—5. he'll face kyren wilson next. castleford tigers suffered just their second defeat of the season as they were beaten 26—22 by st helens who bounced back after their derby defeat on saturday. wycombe wanderers had victory at wakefield. the four—day weekend has a very different meaning in super league circles while fans can put their feet up. wigan and wakefield had to contest their second match in that period. buoyed by friday's victory, captain sean o'loughlin ensured they started well against the wildcats. but four minutes later they responded with a try of their own. wigan extended their lead through morgan —esque array. they could not pull clear. ben jones morgan —esque array. they could not pull clear. benjones bishop's try reduced the deficit to just two at half—time. with leaden legs and battered bodies, to get over the line became a battle. invention was beaten by tension and tilia marshall's short run gave wigan their second win over the weekend. kyle edmund won the all—british clash in the first round of the monte carlo masters, beating his davis cup team—mate dan evans in straight sets. andy murray, who plays his first round match on wednesday, was courtside to watch the british number two and three in action. it's the first time the pair have met on the atp tour. he's ranked one place below evans at 45 in the world, but eased through the second set 6—1, to set up a second round match against nine—time monte carlo champion rafa nadal. that's all sport for now. i'll have more in the next hour. a specialist squad of police and prison staff has been formed to tackle the use of drones flying things like drugs into prisons. they will try to catch those operating the drones which are trying to deliver contraband the drones which are trying to deliver contra band to sell. wandsworth prison last year and a delivery direct to a cell window of a package containing drugs and mobile phones. the parcel was being carried by the cheap quad copter drone. the invention of these easy to fly, remote—controlled aircraft has caused a huge security headache. suddenly prison walls are not much ofa suddenly prison walls are not much of a barrierfor suddenly prison walls are not much of a barrier for those wanting to smuggle contraband into jails. the prison service's response has been to set up a national squad of police and prison officers across england and prison officers across england and wales who will pool intelligence. they will forensically examined captured drones, like this one found near pentonville prison in london, to try and find out who was flying them. though the prison service could give few details about how many officers would be involved in the drones squad or how big the budget was, even before the squad was set up there were recent su ccesses was set up there were recent successes with three men receiving jail sentences of over four years for their roles in flying drugs and phones over prison walls. this year alone over 1.2 million tonnes of raw sewage has been dumped into the river thames. but work has now started on a super sewer that is going to deal with the increased population of the city. around once a week, the river thames becomes a toilet. thousands of tonnes of raw sewage are flushed into the water because the old victorian sewers can't cope. here we go. we all use them, don't we? now, i don't quite know what i'm going to find down here. i've got a fair idea. designed in the 1860s by engineerjoseph bazalgette, these sewers saved countless lives by helping to stop the spread of cholera. this whole area is like the overflow on your sink but on a massive scale. when it rains, all the rainwater and the sewage comes down here and out into the river thames. joseph bazalgette built the sewers to cope with 4 million people. 8 million people live in london today. it means just a couple of millimetres of rain is enough to swamp the sewers. i'm trying not to look down, for obvious reasons, but talk me through it. when it rains a lot in london, does this tunnel just fill up? this tunnel will be absolutely full. there is no treatment. it's gone straight from a shower or a toilet and goes straight through here, straight into the river, but the quantity is up to 50 tonnes per second so it is really high volumes. huge amounts. i'm getting in my head a scene from a film with the water and everything else coming piling down towards us and out of the river. absolutely. this is not somewhere you want to be in any kind of storm event. so now they have begun building a new super sewer. there's not much to see yet but that circle will eventually become one of many shafts. huge tunnelling machines will be lowered down to bore out a 16—mile sewer under the thames. instead of sewage going into the river, it will go along the new tunnel. the scheme costs £4.2 billion. thames water customers will see bills go up for years to help foot the cost. critics say it is too big and too expensive, denied by the boss. there are now 8 million people in london and we are talking about 11, 12, goodness knows what, in the next decade, so i think i would put it the other way — that if we did half the job now and then found in 20, 30 years that that wasn't enough, that wouldn't look like a clever decision. the super sewer will not be finished for seven years and by that time, a quarter of a billion tonnes of raw sewage will have been dumped into the thames. we've got to go out now because the tide is coming in and at high tide, this tunnel gets full. should older drivers be made to retake their test? nearly a quarter of a million people have backed a petition asking for a change in the law. it was started by ben brooks—dutton, whose wife was killed after an elderly motorist hit his accelerator pedal instead of the brakes. it's expected that the number of drivers over 85 will double to1 million by 2025, so is there more we can do to improve safety on the roads? holly hamilton reports. frank has been driving for most of his life. know where you are relative to as much traffic as you possibly can... but despite 56 years of experience behind the wheel, he feels he benefits from an appraisal from time to time. none of us gets sharper as we age. i can see i'm not as sharp as i was ten or 15 years ago and that must apply when i'm driving a car. ijust think it's a good idea. this driver skills scheme in hampshire for the over 60s assesses around 50 people each month. the aim is to keep people driving safely for longer. it's delivered from their own home in their own car. we get one of our assessors to go along and sit with them and offer advice, really. and then we can monitor how their driving is going so they don't have to give up too early before they're ready but they don't go on too long and they become unsafe. there's no legal age to stop driving in the uk but under the current dvla system, drivers have to renew their licence every three years from the age of 70. to do that, you will simply need one of these. a self—assessment form. you decide whether or not you are fit to drive based on your health and eyesight. there are no mandatory checks on your eyesight, hearing or even driving and reaction times. that is well into old age. for most drivers, this is not a problem but not disclosing a medical issue can have devastating consequences. you drew that when you were a baby. you drew that with mummy. in 2012, ben's wife was killed while walking with their two—year—old sonjackson. a car came speeding around the corner, skimmed my son's pushchair but then struck my wife and she died at the scene. when the pressure was on, when the driver had to choose between an accelerator and a brake, he wasn't able to make that decision, he wasn't able to react. he was driving in an automatic vehicle and he thought he was braking and as he broke harder, he was actually accelerating faster. ben is campaigning for drivers to be retested every three years after the age of 70. so far, an online petition has received over 200,000 signatures. i think there needs to be some sort of test to check that we are well enough to drive, that we can react in time to drive safely and regulate our own behaviour. at the moment, the self—assessment system doesn't do that. last year, leading road safety experts published a report setting out a national strategy for safe driving into old age. it made a number of recommendations including increasing the age of licence renewal to 75 if proof of an eye test is made compulsory. older drivers, at the age of 70, are no more likely to be involved in a collision. but obviously, as we do get older and start to suffer from frailty, eyesight and hearing, yes, problems can arise if we don't address them at an early stage. ben's petition is set to be discussed by a cross party transport committee after getting the support from his local mp. meanwhile, ben is hoping his campaign will highlight the issue for thousands of families. no—one wants to take someone's life. no—one wants that hanging over them for the rest of their life but a car is a powerful weapon, you need to make sure you are capable and that is notjust about sticking to your guns and saying, i'm fine. this is about checking that you definitely are. now on bbc news it's time for meet the author. oklahoma in the 1920s and the true story of a murder conspiracy that absorbed and shocked america, and epitomised the darker side of the wild west and all its lingering lawlessness. native americans being herded into reservations and dismissed as inferior red indians. then the oil gushes sprouting out of the prairies and changing everything. and eventually a conspiracy fuelled by greed and jealousy that became one of the obsessions of the young j edgar hoover and his new fbi. david grann's book killers of the flower moon is a trip into the story of the osage people, a journey into a part of american's past that's closer than we sometimes think. welcome. david, this is a fabulous melodrama, but it's also a human story that is full of tragedy. when you lifted the lid on this series of murders in oklahoma in the early 20s, apart from knowing you had stumbled across a wonderful story, how did it affect you? i've written so many stories, this was the one that was probably the most emotionally draining. i worked on it for nearly half a decade and i began to collect victors, photographs, of the victims. pictures, photographs, of the victims. and i would keep those photographs by my desk as i worked on the project. the real tragedy was, as i began the project, i thought there were, you know, so many victims, a dozen, and then a dozen grew to two dozen and by the end of the project i was looking at scores of victims who were caught up in this incredibly sinister conspiracy. and of course, they were native americans. red indians, as we grew up to call them in an earlier age. and they faced the most terrible problems in their lives. the land was removed, the discrimination was at a level that we can barely imagine. and then they discovered that black oil was coming up through their land and they became rich. the way the story begins it's extraordinary, it takes you to another planet. yes. i mean, it's amazing. so, the osage suffered the same fate as so many native american communities and tribes and nations in the united states, which is that they were driven off their land. they once controlled most of the midwest. thomasjefferson referred to them as that great nation. and then within a few years, they had to cede millions and millions of acres. and eventually they were driven to this little corner of north—east oklahoma. they went there because they thought the land was rocky and fertile and they said the white men will finally leave us alone. so they go there, and lo and behold they are sitting on some of the largest deposits of oil in the world. and overnight they became millionaires. they became the richest people per capita, not only in the united states, but in the world. and they lived in mansions. it was said at the time that each american might own one car, each osage owned 11 cars! the car had come, it was within the 20th century, this story, but it is the wild west! it is the last remnants of the wild west. its lawless, its outlaws... power hungry... pistol shooters... and because of the oil, this area drew, it was like a magnet for every kind of outlaw. getty arrived on the train. all the great oil men made their fortune in the osage. getty, sinclair... all the great names we associate with oil barons, they all made their fortune in the osage. and in the midst of it, you tell the story of a real set off you tell the story of a real set of murders, a conspiracy, what we would now call a cover—up, and a target for the nascent fbi, hoover the new director sitting in washington, sending his men in undercover to try to sort this out. yes. and yet it's a story that is, it's better than fiction. yeah, it is crazier than fiction. it was hard to believe. what's amazing about this story is it has been almost excised from history, partly because of racial prejudice. i had known nothing about this story when i started writing it. and yet it was huge. across america. it was big in its day, yeah. it was big in its day. it became the nascent fbi's first major homicide case. it becamej edgar hoover at age 29 doing hisjob, believe it or not, insecure about his security and holding onto hisjob. it became his first big case. and after they badly bungled the case and, just to give one example of that, they recruited an outlaw, appropriately named blackey, to go in undercover to use as an informant. instead, he slips away, robs a bank and killed a police officer. j edgar hoover is sitting in washington petrified that he might actually lose hisjob, that his streams of that he might actually lose his job, that his dreams of a bureaucratic empire might end. he turns the case over to an old frontier lawman, an agent named tom white. tom white puts together an undercover team and it is like something out of oceans 11. texas rangers come in. yeah, texas rangers. they have one guy pose as an insurance salesman. he used to sell insurance. he actually opens an insurance store in town. he's selling real policies. the most amazing thing is, too, that the undercover team included an american indian agent, and this was remarkable because there was so much prejudice at the time, he was probably the only american indian or native american in the bureau at the time. and in the midst of this, you uncoverfor us a conspiracy, the nature of which we won't reveal because it would spoil it for readers, and subsequently a sensational trial. the that i think goes deep into the american story and the sense that you can see through this prison, with all its melodrama and bloodstained detail, the emergence of a real system of laws and order. in the 1920s, it took that long. yes, this was really the emergence of what i would call professionals, an effort to professionalise law enforcement. one of the things that shocked me was just how lawless the country was, how untrained sheriffs office was, how widespread corruption was. so this was an attempt to professionalise the art of detection. the amazing thing about tom white is, he began his career riding on a horse when justice was meted out by the end of a barrel of a gun and by the 1920s he was working this case, he's wearing a suit and a fedora, trying to work out how to study fingerprints, handwriting analysis, and he has to file paperwork, which he can't stand. this is a magical story. but as you said when we began, it's also a very painful story. what did you learn about your country in the 1920s that you hadn't really thought of? you know, i was shocked, even though you grow up hearing about racial prejudice, the degree of racial prejudice that allowed these crimes to go on. these were crimes of greed and avarice but they were carried out without consciousness because the targets and the victims were native americans, and in their minds and many of the killers, these were seen as sub humans. and because of that, these crimes are covered up. i guess the thing that shocked me most is we tend to think about murder stories with a singular evilforce, right? you have one really bad man and the whole kind of concept of a mystery, both in fiction and in nonfiction, is you capture that badman, you'd expunge it and you feel better about society. what happens when you have a crime story where the whole of white society, the whole town, is possibly complicit in it? finally, how have the osage people you have been in touch with reacted to the telling of the story and the fact that it will now be read by millions of people? yeah, i mean, i didn't know when i began the project how people would receive me and the desire to tell the story, and i was struck that the osage were remarkably generous, because they carried the story inside them for so many years. and so for them i think the chance to share the story, that it might receive its place in history in a wider audience, at least so far my experience has been extremely positive. david grann, author of killers of the flower moon, thank you very much. thank you so much. we have got a chilly night on the way, quite a sharp frost tonight and tomorrow night as well in different parts of the country. but tonight it is in the north where it really will be quite sharp, especially across scotland. a bit of cloud on the satellite picture, but this cloud is breaking up and the temperatures will be dipping away fairly rapidly. clear skies but a few showers affecting northern areas, the east into east anglia and maybe a few in london in the early hours of tuesday morning. this is the frost from the la ke morning. this is the frost from the lake district northwards. towns and cities will not be as cool as rural areas. not a surprise to get a frost this time of year, but it could be damaging to some of our tender pla nts damaging to some of our tender plants and even some of the crops given the severity of the frost in the north. in the south in the morning it is a chilly and a sunny start. the further north we go, the cold it is. freezing in eastern and central scotland even at eight o'clock in the morning. this is a week whether frontier, with light rain which is getting into the western isles of scotland on tuesday morning. probably not much rain getting into northern ireland. it is a very sluggish moving weather front. by four o'clock it has hardly moved. in the south it is a beautiful day with sunshine. on tuesday night into wednesday there is high pressure across the south. it comes all the way from the south of scandinavia stretching out to the azores almost. that means sunny skies will prevail across the south. temperatures between 12—14. in the north a bit more cloud. not much change on thursday. variable amounts of cloud, the warmest place will be in the south. the further north you are, the breezy and it will be and a little rain will fall this week. most of it will be in northern areas. daytimes will be pleasant enough, it is the knights that will be frosty. tonight there is frost in scotla nd be frosty. tonight there is frost in scotland and tomorrow night it is the southern half of the uk that gets the frost. weight this is bbc news. the headlines. the warning from north rio. all out war and a pre—emptive nuclear strike if they are a tract, a senior official says. prince harry says he has had cancelled and to help him come to terms with the death of his mother. turkey's president erdogan promises to press ahead with new powers after narrowly winning the constitutional referendum. translation: with this amendment we now have a new government system. 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