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currents in us politics but in a country deeply divided, the christian right has found a new voice. ~ , ., ., voice. we desire to live in a judaeo-christian _ voice. we desire to live in a judaeo-christian nation - voice. we desire to live in a | judaeo-christian nation with judaeo—christian nation with judaeo—christian nation with judaeo—christian values. it judaeo-christian nation with judaeo-christian values. it claims christianity _ judaeo-christian values. it claims christianity is _ judaeo-christian values. it claims christianity is under _ judaeo-christian values. it claims christianity is under attack - judaeo-christian values. it claims christianity is under attack and i christianity is under attack and that god belongs in government. with pastors preaching its message in churches and its beliefs guiding ultraconservative candidates in the mid—term elections. i’m ultraconservative candidates in the mid-term elections.— ultraconservative candidates in the mid-term elections. i'm a christian, i sa we mid-term elections. i'm a christian, i say we should _ mid-term elections. i'm a christian, i say we should be _ mid-term elections. i'm a christian, i say we should be christian - i say we should be christian nationalists.— i say we should be christian nationalists. ., , ' :: nationalists. the movement is 90 minutes christian _ nationalists. the movement is 90 minutes christian nationalism - nationalists. the movement is 90! minutes christian nationalism and the far right is taking it to the extreme. ~ ., the far right is taking it to the extreme. ~ . , ., extreme. we are the christian taliban. some _ extreme. we are the christian taliban. some ward _ extreme. we are the christian taliban. some ward this - extreme. we are the christian taliban. some ward this is - taliban. some ward this is fundamentally _ taliban. some ward this is i fundamentally undemocratic. taliban. some ward this is - fundamentally undemocratic. it was amlified fundamentally undemocratic. it was amplified by — fundamentally undemocratic. it was amplified by donald _ fundamentally undemocratic. it was amplified by donald trump. - fundamentally undemocratic. it was amplified by donald trump. we - fundamentally undemocratic. it w; amplified by donald trump. we are going to protect christianity and i can say that, i don't have to be politically correct.— can say that, i don't have to be politically correct. powered by his election loss, _ politically correct. powered by his election loss, it _ politically correct. powered by his election loss, it broke _ politically correct. powered by his election loss, it broke cover- politically correct. powered by his election loss, it broke cover at. politically correct. powered by his| election loss, it broke cover at the storming of the capital onjanuary the 6th last year. you storming of the capital on january the 6th last year.— the 6th last year. you can't diminish — the 6th last year. you can't diminish what _ the 6th last year. you can't diminish what happened i the 6th last year. you can't! diminish what happened on the 6th last year. you can't - diminish what happened on january diminish what happened onjanuary the 6th from what's happening in some centuries on sunday morning. their crusader starting from the ground up and education is the front line. , . ., ., ground up and education is the front line. ,. , , ground up and education is the front line. ,. , ., line. our school board meetings are olice line. our school board meetings are police officers _ line. our school board meetings are police officers at _ line. our school board meetings are police officers at the _ line. our school board meetings are police officers at the meetings - line. our school board meetings are police officers at the meetings to i police officers at the meetings to escort_ police officers at the meetings to escort people out if they get too out of _ escort people out if they get too out of control. to escort people out if they get too out of control.— escort people out if they get too out of control. to understand this moment in _ out of control. to understand this moment in us — out of control. to understand this moment in us politics _ out of control. to understand this moment in us politics you - out of control. to understand this moment in us politics you have i out of control. to understand this| moment in us politics you have to understand this movement. i met people across the country who fail they are battling for the soul of america. —— you feel. tarrant tarra nt county, known tarrant county, known for conservative churches, wealthy white neighbourhoods and good schools. it is america's largest republican urban community and it helped elect donald trump. but in 2020, joe biden won here by a hair. this politically crucial corner of texas has become a testing ground for how conservatives can maintain their grip. it is 6:30 in the morning. like every parent, laney is rushing to get her children ready for the day. but in the past few months, she has spent more and more of her time focused on schooling, fighting back against what she believes is a growing conservative and christian influence in the classroom.— in the classroom. when we first got here everything _ in the classroom. when we first got here everything is _ in the classroom. when we first got here everything is mild, _ in the classroom. when we first got here everything is mild, school- here everything is mild, school board meetings were boring. then everything ramped up to this and this is where we are now. it is a fight. our school board meetings have police officers at the meetings to escort people out who get too out of control. ., ., , , ., to escort people out who get too out of control, ., ., , , ., ., of control. school boards are ground zero of the — of control. school boards are ground zero of the culture _ of control. school boards are ground zero of the culture wars _ of control. school boards are ground zero of the culture wars taking i zero of the culture wars taking place across the country. in tarrant county, they are churning with disputes over what children are taught about sexuality, gender identity, the history of racism and of what they should be allowed to read. ., ., , ., , ., read. there are only two genders and they shouldn't _ read. there are only two genders and they shouldn't allowed _ read. there are only two genders and they shouldn't allowed to _ read. there are only two genders and they shouldn't allowed to use - they shouldn't allowed to use fantasy — they shouldn't allowed to use fantasy pronouns.— they shouldn't allowed to use fantasy pronouns. fight like hell! this is censorship, _ fantasy pronouns. fight like hell! this is censorship, it _ fantasy pronouns. fight like hell! this is censorship, it is _ fantasy pronouns. fight like hell! this is censorship, it is much i fantasy pronouns. fight like hell! i this is censorship, it is much more than _ this is censorship, it is much more than politics — this is censorship, it is much more than politics. this— this is censorship, it is much more than politics. this is— this is censorship, it is much more than politics. this is about - this is censorship, it is much more than politics. this is about lives. i than politics. this is about lives. there _ than politics. this is about lives. there is— than politics. this is about lives. there is a — than politics. this is about lives. there is a higher— than politics. this is about lives. there is a higher rate _ than politics. this is about lives. there is a higher rate for- than politics. this is about lives. i there is a higher rate for suicide. having _ there is a higher rate for suicide. having support _ there is a higher rate for suicide. having support from _ there is a higher rate for suicide. having support from your - there is a higher rate for suicide. having support from your home, | there is a higher rate for suicide. i having support from your home, your peers _ having support from your home, your peers and _ having support from your home, your peers and your— having support from your home, your peers and your school— having support from your home, your peers and your school means - having support from your home, your peers and your school means adversei peers and your school means adverse mental _ peers and your school means adverse mental health — peers and your school means adverse mental health effects _ peers and your school means adverse mental health effects and _ peers and your school means adverse mental health effects and eventuallyl mental health effects and eventually suicide _ mental health effects and eventually suicide attempts. _ mental health effects and eventually suicide attempts.— suicide attempts. transforming low-profile _ suicide attempts. transforming low-profile elections _ suicide attempts. transforming low-profile elections into i low—profile elections into high—stakes political conflicts and high—sta kes political conflicts and central to high—stakes political conflicts and central to that is christianity, but not through the pews. remember when america stood — not through the pews. remember when america stood for— not through the pews. remember when america stood for things _ not through the pews. remember when america stood for things like _ america stood for things like honour, freedom, personal responsibility and faith? enter a texas cell phone _ responsibility and faith? enter a texas cell phone company i responsibility and faith? enter a texas cell phone company on i responsibility and faith? enter a texas cell phone company on a | texas cell phone company on a mission to protect conservative christian values. it spent nearly half $1 million supporting 11 candidates in four districts. all of them won. 11 candidates in four districts. all of them won-— candidates in four districts. all of themwon. , ., ,. , them won. 11 seats on school boards. it is art them won. 11 seats on school boards. it is part of — them won. 11 seats on school boards. it is part of a — them won. 11 seats on school boards. it is part of a new _ them won. 11 seats on school boards. it is part of a new effort _ them won. 11 seats on school boards. it is part of a new effort by _ it is part of a new effort by republicans to take over politics from the ground up. backed by political operatives like former trump adviser steve bannon. fine political operatives like former trump adviser steve bannon. one of the ke s is trump adviser steve bannon. one of the keys is these _ trump adviser steve bannon. one of the keys is these school— trump adviser steve bannon. one of the keys is these school boards, i the keys is these school boards, they are the key that picks the lock. tell us about what you did in tarrant county.— tarrant county. since then those schoolboys _ tarrant county. since then those schoolboys have _ tarrant county. since then those schoolboys have begun - tarrant county. since then those schoolboys have begun to i tarrant county. since then those schoolboys have begun to put i tarrant county. since then those i schoolboys have begun to put new restrictions on books and gender identity issues. —— those school boards. the owner of patriot mobile recruited long—time political operator to help mobilise the country —— the christian message. every mother of school age kids, it's really— every mother of school age kids, it's really quite concerning. we have _ it's really quite concerning. we have never— it's really quite concerning. we have never in the city is that we were _ have never in the city is that we were dealing with had christianity so attacked. were dealing with had christianity so attacked-— were dealing with had christianity i so attacked._ look so attacked. what do you mean? look at some of the — so attacked. what do you mean? look at some of the public— so attacked. what do you mean? look at some of the public comments i so attacked. what do you mean? look at some of the public comments in i at some of the public comments in school— at some of the public comments in school boards, bill calling christianity a terrible racist negative thing. and the reason we started _ negative thing. and the reason we started with school boards is because _ started with school boards is because that is the level of government that is most impacting the future — government that is most impacting the future of our country. what we were _ the future of our country. what we were seeing is the indoctrination instead — were seeing is the indoctrination instead of— were seeing is the indoctrination instead of education. do were seeing is the indoctrination instead of education.— were seeing is the indoctrination instead of education. do you have a responsibility _ instead of education. do you have a responsibility back _ instead of education. do you have a responsibility back into _ instead of education. do you have a responsibility back into the - instead of education. do you have a responsibility back into the schools| responsibility back into the schools in some way? h0 responsibility back into the schools in some way?— responsibility back into the schools in some way? responsibility back into the schools in some wa ? ., , ., . ., in some way? no question. we need to have a little _ in some way? no question. we need to have a little bit — in some way? no question. we need to have a little bit more faith _ in some way? no question. we need to have a little bit more faith in _ have a little bit more faith in schools in the sense of, we have to remove what i feel is ungodly stuff out of the school.— out of the school. recently, texas astor out of the school. recently, texas pastor has — out of the school. recently, texas pastor has said _ out of the school. recently, texas pastor has said schools _ out of the school. recently, texas pastor has said schools had - out of the school. recently, texas pastor has said schools had to i pastor has said schools had to display posters of the national motto if they were donated. patriot mobile delivered hundreds. lainey and other parents saw an opportunity to take a stand. this man has two children in school, he asked students to design signs that would include them. these were the voices he felt were unhurt. arabic speakers, transgender and gay kids. the school board initially rejected the signs, the issue has gone to court. the signs, the issue has gone to court, , the signs, the issue has gone to court. , , ., �* the signs, the issue has gone to court. ,, ., �* , ., court. schools shouldn't be a place where ou court. schools shouldn't be a place where you have — court. schools shouldn't be a place where you have people _ court. schools shouldn't be a place where you have people competing| where you have people competing about which is the best card. but that's where _ about which is the best card. but that's where we are. it _ about which is the best card. but that's where we are. it should i about which is the best card. but i that's where we are. it should never be that. that's where we are. it should never be that- your _ that's where we are. it should never be that. your religious _ be that. your religious institutions, temples, houses. fir institutions, temples, houses. 0r accept all gods. 0r make it a place for everything, absolutely. the si . ns for everything, absolutely. the signs may _ for everything, absolutely. the signs may have _ for everything, absolutely. tia: signs may have been a political stunt that they see something more sinister at work. we stunt that they see something more sinister at work.— sinister at work. we see the republican _ sinister at work. we see the republican party _ sinister at work. we see the republican party who i sinister at work. we see the republican party who have l sinister at work. we see the i republican party who have decided one of the goal is to bring god into schools. that is the plan long term, to bring god also into the government. to me, it is anti—american, to try and bring christian ideology into our schools or our government. our country is based on allowing people to make that choice for themselves. i raised the sin that choice for themselves. i raised the sign controversy _ that choice for themselves. i raised the sign controversy with _ that choice for themselves. i raised the sign controversy with patriot i the sign controversy with patriot mobile. it the sign controversy with patriot mobile. . , . . the sign controversy with patriot mobile. ., , . ., ., the sign controversy with patriot mobile. . ., ., ., mobile. it has created a great uroar mobile. it has created a great uproar because _ mobile. it has created a great uproar because folks - mobile. it has created a great uproar because folks hate i mobile. it has created a great uproar because folks hate the concept _ uproar because folks hate the concept. my response is, it's the national— concept. my response is, it's the national motto, we are not doing anythingm — national motto, we are not doing anything... if you don't like it, take _ anything... if you don't like it, take every— anything... if you don't like it, take every go out of your pocket and threw _ take every go out of your pocket and threw it _ take every go out of your pocket and threw it away because every ball and every _ threw it away because every ball and every coin _ threw it away because every ball and eve coin. ., ., �* ~' threw it away because every ball and eve coin. ., ., �* ~ every coin. you don't think it was an issue of _ every coin. you don't think it was an issue of who _ every coin. you don't think it was an issue of who is _ every coin. you don't think it was an issue of who is god _ every coin. you don't think it was an issue of who is god do - every coin. you don't think it was an issue of who is god do we i every coin. you don't think it was i an issue of who is god do we trust? because the alternatives brought forward or an arabic and, you know... it forward or an arabic and, you know... . , forward or an arabic and, you know... ., , ., forward or an arabic and, you know... ., ., know... it was more political than 'ust the know... it was more political than just the word _ know... it was more political than just the word god. _ know. .. it was more political than just the word god. for— know. .. it was more political than just the word god. for all- know... it was more political than just the word god. for all parents here, this boils _ just the word god. for all parents here, this boils down _ just the word god. for all parents here, this boils down to _ just the word god. for all parents here, this boils down to the i just the word god. for all parents| here, this boils down to the future of their children. and who gets to shape what that will become. the concerns i found in texas echo resoundingly through the conservative christian establishment. this fear of a cultural takeover by what they labelled the radical left. the southern baptist theological seminary in lewisville kentucky is one of the largest in the world. training leaders who are shaping the future of the evangelical church. have you and other christian leaders taken on a more overtly political role? . , , taken on a more overtly political role? ._ , , , ., role? inevitably, because christian reachers role? inevitably, because christian preachers didn't _ role? inevitably, because christian preachers didn't have _ role? inevitably, because christian preachers didn't have to _ role? inevitably, because christian preachers didn't have to preach i preachers didn't have to preach about lgbtq issues in any sense as we do now because it does not issues of the country, nobody was talking about them. this of the country, nobody was talking about them-— about them. this shift has been a fundamental _ about them. this shift has been a fundamental change _ about them. this shift has been a fundamental change for - about them. this shift has been a fundamental change for both i about them. this shift has been a fundamental change for both the | fundamental change for both the country and the church. for conservative _ country and the church. fr?" conservative christians there has been a dawning awareness of the fact that whereas the society basically agreed with us in almost every important issue, i mean, the overlap, if you take a venn diagram, was so overwhelming that outsiders would hold the united states a christian nation. something has clearly changed and conservative christians in this country are now in a paradox or a predicament, i think that's why you see such, you know, it would be called by those who don't look at the rise of the new christian right, or the awakening of the christian vote in the united states, well, there is a reason for that. the the united states, well, there is a reason for that.— the united states, well, there is a reason for that. the rise of the new christian right _ reason for that. the rise of the new christian right is _ reason for that. the rise of the new christian right is called _ reason for that. the rise of the new christian right is called christian i christian right is called christian nationalism by some. a belief that america was founded as a christian nation and that the government should keep it that way. blurring the line between church and state. christian nationalism is a new term for a very old phenomenon. it privileges a religious identity with citizenship in its most virulent form it turns out also have an racial component to it. in the us that component has been round of european descent or whiteness, as it has developed in the country. when i talk about christian nationalism in the us, usually talk about white christian nationalism.— the us, usually talk about white christian nationalism. donald trump was seen as — christian nationalism. donald trump was seen as defending _ christian nationalism. donald trump was seen as defending their- christian nationalism. donald trump was seen as defending their cause i was seen as defending their cause when he entered the white house. we are going to protect christianity and i_ are going to protect christianity and i can— are going to protect christianity and i can say that i don't have to be politically correct. and and i can say that i don't have to be politically correct.— be politically correct. and it was the storming — be politically correct. and it was the storming of— be politically correct. and it was the storming of the _ be politically correct. and it was the storming of the capitol i be politically correct. and it was the storming of the capitol that| the storming of the capitol that showed just how much religious and political identities had begun to emerge on the right. funded by believe the election had been stolen. , , , , believe the election had been stolen, , , , , , stolen. jesus christ, we 'ust broke in! many reject h stolen. jesus christ, we 'ust broke in! many reject the i stolen. jesus christ, we just broke in! many reject the christian i in! many re'ect the christian nationalist i in! many reject the christian nationalist label _ in! many reject the christian nationalist label as - in! many reject the christian nationalist label as a - in! many reject the christian nationalist label as a leftist| nationalist label as a leftist smear. but a few right—wing politicians are embracing its rhetoric. ~ ., ., , , politicians are embracing its rhetoric. ., ., , , ., rhetoric. we have to be the party of nationalism — rhetoric. we have to be the party of nationalism and _ rhetoric. we have to be the party of nationalism and i'm _ rhetoric. we have to be the party of nationalism and i'm a _ rhetoric. we have to be the party of nationalism and i'm a christian i rhetoric. we have to be the party of nationalism and i'm a christian and | nationalism and i'm a christian and i nationalism and i'm a christian and i say— nationalism and i'm a christian and i say we _ nationalism and i'm a christian and i say we should be christian nationalists.— i say we should be christian nationalists. . . , , , nationalists. the church is supposed to direct government _ nationalists. the church is supposed to direct government not _ nationalists. the church is supposed to direct government not the - to direct government not the opposite. the church is supposed to influence government. and we need to be so involved in what is going on in our government.— in our government. online, extremists _ in our government. online, extremists have _ in our government. online, extremists have taken i in our government. online, extremists have taken it i in our government. online, i extremists have taken it even further. ~ ., , ., further. we are the christian taliban, this _ further. we are the christian taliban, this is _ further. we are the christian taliban, this is the - further. we are the christian taliban, this is the era i further. we are the christian taliban, this is the era of. taliban, this is the era of christian— taliban, this is the era of christian nationalism. what's different now _ christian nationalism. what's different now is _ christian nationalism. what's different now is that - christian nationalism. what's different now is that the i christian nationalism. what's i different now is that the country is no longer a majority white christian. as easily as 2008 when barack obama was first running for president, the country was actually 54% white and christian so comfortably majority. that number todayis comfortably majority. that number today is 1m. i think that threat that white christians are no longer in control, demographically, culturally or politically, is why we are seeing it come to the fore in the current context.— are seeing it come to the fore in the current context. dominant voices in black church _ the current context. dominant voices in black church are _ the current context. dominant voices in black church are also _ the current context. dominant voices in black church are also sounding i in black church are also sounding the alarm about the racial implications of the movement and they warn that the spirit of the january the 6th attack was not contained in the capitol. you can't diminish what _ contained in the capitol. you can't diminish what happened on i contained in the capitol. you can't| diminish what happened on january diminish what happened onjanuary the 6th from what's happening in some sanctuaries on sunday morning. you can't separate this passion to overthrow the nation plasma capital with violence injanuary overthrow the nation plasma capital with violence in january the overthrow the nation plasma capital with violence injanuary the 6th from the rhetoric that we hear on christian radio. you can't separate this desire to pull down elected officials and make —— maybe even call for their murder, versus what we hearfrankly from people call for their murder, versus what we hear frankly from people all across the nation, even elected officials, who are praying for the death of the president.- officials, who are praying for the death of the president. many pastors were at the capitol _ death of the president. many pastors were at the capitol that _ death of the president. many pastors were at the capitol that day. - death of the president. many pastors were at the capitol that day. i - were at the capitol that day. i travelled to tennessee, deep in the bible belt, where one of them continues to preach. so the pastor has asked me to meet him here on this overpass to watch him waving flags. seems a bit of a patriotic stunt, i think he does it a lot. hello, pastor. how are you? i'm doing good, thank you, god bless you. doing good, thank you, god bless ou. �* , , , doing good, thank you, god bless ou. , ., you. and god bless america, and god bless donald — you. and god bless america, and god bless donald trump. _ you. and god bless america, and god bless donald trump. ken _ you. and god bless america, and god bless donald trump. ken peters i you. and god bless america, and god bless donald trump. ken peters has i bless donald trump. ken peters has denounced the violence of the capitol right but still defines what he sees as a patriotic mission. brute he sees as a patriotic mission. we do feel he sees as a patriotic mission. - do feel like god has a special plan for this country and he still has a plan for this country. fin for this country and he still has a plan for this country.— plan for this country. on january the 6th you _ plan for this country. on january the 6th you thought _ plan for this country. on january the 6th you thought that - plan for this country. on january the 6th you thought that was i plan for this country. on january i the 6th you thought that was under threat? ~ , ,., , the 6th you thought that was under threat? ~ ,,., , ~ the 6th you thought that was under threat? ~ , ,., , ~ ~' threat? absolutely. we felt like the enem , threat? absolutely. we felt like the enemy. meaning — threat? absolutely. we felt like the enemy, meaning leftists, _ threat? absolutely. we felt like the enemy, meaning leftists, who i threat? absolutely. we felt like the j enemy, meaning leftists, who don't like christians, had stolen our nation. f . . . , ., nation. peters' petric church is one of a growing _ nation. peters' petric church is one of a growing number _ nation. peters' petric church is one of a growing number of _ of a growing number of nondenominational starter congregations that say they want to take back the country for god. i was a little unsure of what to expect. as someone who grew up in the church, what i heard he was not the gospel and new. political activism is an act of worship. the gospel and new. political activism is an act of worship.— gospel and new. political activism is an act of worship. the lgbtq on the left are — is an act of worship. the lgbtq on the left are saying, _ is an act of worship. the lgbtq on the left are saying, you _ is an act of worship. the lgbtq on the left are saying, you are - is an act of worship. the lgbtq on | the left are saying, you are church, separation of church and state, get in the stands, you can't play in the game. church, preachers, you stand up game. church, preachers, you stand up in the stands, separation of church an aggressive response to a sense of being under siege stop missions will have to get feisty. brute missions will have to get feisty. we will have to get the fight a little bit. will have to get the fight a little bit you — will have to get the fight a little bit. you can stick your head in the sand _ bit. you can stick your head in the sand when— bit. you can stick your head in the sand when it — bit. you can stick your head in the sand when it comes to politics. for him, that sand when it comes to politics. fr?" him, that means a crusade against abortion. hf him, that means a crusade against abortion. ,., .., ., ., abortion. if god can overturn roe v wade, he abortion. if god can overturn roe v wade. he can _ abortion. if god can overturn roe v wade. he can do — abortion. if god can overturn roe v wade, he can do anything. - abortion. if god can overturn roe v wade, he can do anything. and i abortion. if god can overturn roe v - wade, he can do anything. and ending same-sex marriage. _ wade, he can do anything. and ending same-sex marriage. yes, _ wade, he can do anything. and ending same-sex marriage. yes, i _ wade, he can do anything. and ending same-sex marriage. yes, i want - wade, he can do anything. and ending same-sex marriage. yes, i want to - same-sex marriage. yes, i want to exclude certain — same-sex marriage. yes, i want to exclude certain types _ same-sex marriage. yes, i want to exclude certain types of _ exclude certain types of relationships, sexual relationships, from marriage, it is special to us. it is in _ from marriage, it is special to us. it is in the — from marriage, it is special to us. it is in the bible, it is something we really— it is in the bible, it is something we really care about. you it is in the bible, it is something we really care about.— it is in the bible, it is something we really care about. you want a government _ we really care about. you want a government that _ we really care about. you want a government that would - we really care about. you want a government that would impose i we really care about. you want a i government that would impose that quickly i want a government that keeps marriage what it has always been. what he preaches from the pulpit is meant to be taken to the polls. pulpit is meant to be taken to the olls. ~ ., , ~ ., polls. we endorse monte fritz, we endorse him- _ polls. we endorse monte fritz, we endorse him. and _ polls. we endorse monte fritz, we endorse him. and his— polls. we endorse monte fritz, we endorse him. and his message - polls. we endorse monte fritz, we - endorse him. and his message seems to be the patrick _ endorse him. and his message seems to be the patrickjudges _ endorse him. and his message seems to be the patrickjudges have - to be the patrickjudges have expanded to several locations for the peters says they are attracting followers from more liberal states. to me this isn't anything new, it is just how i even grew up in a country. just how i even grew up in a count . just how i even grew up in a country-— just how i even grew up in a count . , ., ., country. there is nothing wrong with that. and some _ country. there is nothing wrong with that. and some try _ country. there is nothing wrong with that. and some try to _ country. there is nothing wrong with that. and some try to shame - country. there is nothing wrong with that. and some try to shame us - country. there is nothing wrong with that. and some try to shame us for. that. and some try to shame us for loving our country, this is what god raised us to do. we loving our country, this is what god raised us to do.— loving our country, this is what god raised us to do. we wanted to find a lace that raised us to do. we wanted to find a place that wasn't _ raised us to do. we wanted to find a place that wasn't afraid _ raised us to do. we wanted to find a place that wasn't afraid to _ raised us to do. we wanted to find a place that wasn't afraid to take - raised us to do. we wanted to find a place that wasn't afraid to take a - place that wasn't afraid to take a stand. _ place that wasn't afraid to take a stand, that wasn't afraid to speak out if— stand, that wasn't afraid to speak out if there — stand, that wasn't afraid to speak out if there were issues that they thought— out if there were issues that they thought needed to be spoken about. we are _ thought needed to be spoken about. we are definitely a christian nation, _ we are definitely a christian nation, we _ we are definitely a christian nation, we should _ we are definitely a christian nation, we should be. - we are definitely a christian nation, we should be. so i we are definitely a christian nation, we should be. so to| we are definitely a christian i nation, we should be. so to try we are definitely a christian - nation, we should be. so to try to separate — nation, we should be. so to try to separate politics— nation, we should be. so to try to separate politics from _ nation, we should be. so to try to separate politics from the - nation, we should be. so to try to separate politics from the churchl nation, we should be. so to try to. separate politics from the church is asinine. _ separate politics from the church is asinine. it— separate politics from the church is asinine, it cannot _ separate politics from the church is asinine, it cannot be _ separate politics from the church is asinine, it cannot be done. - separate politics from the church is asinine, it cannot be done. if- asinine, it cannot be done. if you are doing — asinine, it cannot be done. if you are doing it. _ asinine, it cannot be done. if you are doing it, you're _ asinine, it cannot be done. if you are doing it, you're probably- asinine, it cannot be done. if you. are doing it, you're probably doing something — are doing it, you're probably doing something wrong. _ something wrong. i wanted - something wrong. i wanted to - something wrong. i wanted to knowl something wrong. i i wanted to know if something wrong. - i wanted to know if other something wrong. — i wanted to know if other churches in tennessee felt the same way, so i continued the journey to the city of franklin, south of nashville anna place that has become the new frontier for evangelical christianity. i joined an frontier for evangelical christianity. ijoined an early morning meeting of community activists work with the homeless, led by pastor kevin riggs. he grew up led by pastor kevin riggs. he grew up as a conservative evangelical and had dreams of becoming a mega— church pastor. but a close reading of the bible convinced him god cared more about social justice. of the bible convinced him god cared more about socialjustice. there of the bible convinced him god cared more about socialjustice.— more about social 'ustice. there is division within — more about social 'ustice. there is division within the— more about socialjustice. there is division within the church - more about socialjustice. there is division within the church that - more about socialjustice. there is division within the church that i . division within the church that i haven't— division within the church that i haven't seen. i have had friends who are pastors— haven't seen. i have had friends who are pastors because they spoke out against _ are pastors because they spoke out against the religious right or against _ against the religious right or against president trump, and then they were — against president trump, and then they were asked to leave their church — they were asked to leave their church. ~ ., , they were asked to leave their church. ~ . , ., ., , ., church. what is the danger, do you think? you — church. what is the danger, do you think? you hear— church. what is the danger, do you think? you hear the _ church. what is the danger, do you think? you hear the term - church. what is the danger, do you think? you hear the term a - church. what is the danger, do you think? you hear the term a lot - church. what is the danger, do you think? you hear the term a lot in i think? you hear the term a lot in evangelical _ think? you hear the term a lot in evangelical circles _ think? you hear the term a lot in evangelical circles that _ think? you hear the term a lot in evangelical circles that we - think? you hear the term a lot in evangelical circles that we are i evangelical circles that we are fighting — evangelical circles that we are fighting a cultural war. you could very easily— fighting a cultural war. you could very easily replace the word culture with civil _ very easily replace the word culture with civil and that's kind of where we are, _ with civil and that's kind of where we are, it's — with civil and that's kind of where we are, it's been a called civil war, — we are, it's been a called civil war. it's — we are, it's been a called civil war, it's been about ideology and fighting _ war, it's been about ideology and fighting for these things but it could — fighting for these things but it could quickly become violent. it could _ could quickly become violent. it could become, you know, the right will have _ could become, you know, the right will have a — could become, you know, the right will have a tendency to take up arms to protect _ will have a tendency to take up arms to protect their rights.— to protect their rights. there are astors to protect their rights. there are pastors who _ to protect their rights. there are pastors who seem _ to protect their rights. there are pastors who seem to _ to protect their rights. there are pastors who seem to court - pastors who seem to court controversy, even thrive on it. greg locke burned catholic rosaries and harry potter books on halloween night, objects of sorcery and witchcraft, he called them. we don't have to be so _ witchcraft, he called them. we don't have to be so careful— witchcraft, he called them. we don't have to be so careful with _ witchcraft, he called them. we don't have to be so careful with what - witchcraft, he called them. we don't have to be so careful with what they| have to be so careful with what they say... i have to be so careful with what they sa ., , ., ., say... i met him in a studio near nashville _ say... i met him in a studio near nashville where _ say... i met him in a studio near nashville where he _ say... i met him in a studio near nashville where he films - say... i met him in a studio near nashville where he films his - say... i met him in a studio near- nashville where he films his webcast about faith and politics. social media, that's _ about faith and politics. social media, that's the _ about faith and politics. social media, that's the biggest - about faith and politics. social| media, that's the biggest part, about faith and politics. social- media, that's the biggest part, it's about 4.6 million people across all facebook and all the platforms, and at the end of the day we have millions of people that watch, and that brings a lot of people to the church. ,., ., ., ., ., church. good evening! he made a name for himself as — church. good evening! he made a name for himself as a — church. good evening! he made a name for himself as a trump _ church. good evening! he made a name for himself as a trump pastor— church. good evening! he made a name for himself as a trump pastor but - church. good evening! he made a name for himself as a trump pastor but he - for himself as a trump pastor but he really took off by challenging the covid shutdown. and yes, he was also at the capitol right. you covid shutdown. and yes, he was also at the capitol right.— at the capitol right. you ain't seen in insurrection _ at the capitol right. you ain't seen in insurrection yet! _ at the capitol right. you ain't seen in insurrection yet! he _ at the capitol right. you ain't seen in insurrection yet! he preaches i in insurrection yet! he preaches olitics in insurrection yet! he preaches politics to _ in insurrection yet! he preaches politics to his — in insurrection yet! he preaches politics to his following - in insurrection yet! he preaches politics to his following that - in insurrection yet! he preaches politics to his following that can sound like extremist rants. you got hit in communist, _ sound like extremist rants. you got hit in communist, you _ sound like extremist rants. you got hit in communist, you will - sound like extremist rants. you got hit in communist, you will find - sound like extremist rants. you got| hit in communist, you will find what insurrection — hit in communist, you will find what insurrection is, we are not playing garbage, — insurrection is, we are not playing garbage, my bible says that the church _ garbage, my bible says that the church of— garbage, my bible says that the church of the living god! you also said in your _ church of the living god! you also said in your church _ church of the living god! you also said in your church that _ church of the living god! you also | said in your church that democrats are demons, do you really believe that? �* , , are demons, do you really believe that? ~ , , ., . that? absolutely. the democratic pa is that? absolutely. the democratic party is demonically _ that? absolutely. the democratic party is demonically energised, i that? absolutely. the democratic party is demonically energised, ifj party is demonically energised, if you believe in butchering babies, you believe in butchering babies, you celebrate stolen elections and you celebrate stolen elections and you don't— you celebrate stolen elections and you don't want freedom and you're against _ you don't want freedom and you're against the — you don't want freedom and you're against the second amendment riven first, then _ against the second amendment riven first, then leave. it is against the second amendment riven first, then leave.— first, then leave. it is one thing to be tired _ first, then leave. it is one thing to be tired of _ first, then leave. it is one thing to be tired of a _ first, then leave. it is one thing to be tired of a party, - first, then leave. it is one thing to be tired of a party, another i first, then leave. it is one thing l to be tired of a party, another to say they are evil and demonic. but i'm not saying that. could - say they are evil and demonic. but i'm not saying that. could this - say they are evil and demonic. but i'm not saying that. could this not| i'm not saying that. could this not be a way of _ i'm not saying that. could this not be a way of inciting _ i'm not saying that. could this not be a way of inciting to _ i'm not saying that. could this not be a way of inciting to violence, i be a way of inciting to violence, those people who listen to you either in your church or online? they might take it a step further, if this is evil, go after it. people have been saying that for years, if you followjesus, that means you will nick a weapon and go to the church and run people down. you are calling fellow americans evil and putting it in the context of an apocalyptic battle between good and evil. , ., apocalyptic battle between good and evil. _, ., i, . evil. there is an apocalyptic battle. that — evil. there is an apocalyptic battle. that is _ evil. there is an apocalyptic battle. that is the - evil. there is an apocalyptic battle. that is the kind - evil. there is an apocalyptic battle. that is the kind of l evil. there is an apocalyptic- battle. that is the kind of language that could be _ battle. that is the kind of language that could be used _ battle. that is the kind of language that could be used to _ battle. that is the kind of language that could be used to incite - that could be used to incite violence against such that could be used to incite violence against such people. could be a desire to _ violence against such people. could be a desire to derry _ violence against such people. could be a desire to derry -- _ violence against such people. could be a desire to derry -- my - violence against such people. could be a desire to derry -- my very - be a desire to derry —— my very ditferent— be a desire to derry —— my very different things. are not inciting violence. — different things. are not inciting violence, and preaching the bible. he is— violence, and preaching the bible. he is now— violence, and preaching the bible. he is now preaching the bible with a growing emphasis on deliverance from demons. there is not the political rhetoric tonight. you can see that greg locke definitely knows how to draw a crowd. it is emotional, powerful, dramatic. he knows how to develop a following. after the service, people gathered at the front seeking prayer to be freed from their demons. this kind of mass deliverance service is tapping into an old tradition of pentecostal revival in the united states. it breaks through into new ways when people are hungry for the experience of a living and mighty god. for those here, the spirit of god was moving. but how is this mix of charismatic evangelism, right—wing politics and trumper�*s and playing out in the mid—term elections? i out in the mid—term elections? i think we are seeing a test run of some of this rhetoric in the midterms and i think it is dipping their toe in the water to see how this plays in the campaign trail with a rev up to 2024. {line this plays in the campaign trail with a rev up to 2024.- this plays in the campaign trail with a rev up to 2024. one of the best examples — with a rev up to 2024. one of the best examples of _ with a rev up to 2024. one of the best examples of a _ with a rev up to 2024. one of the best examples of a candidate - with a rev up to 2024. one of the . best examples of a candidate backed by this new religious right is the republican contender for pennsylvania governor, doug mystery honour. a former military man campaigning as a christian warrior, framing the selection is spiritual warfare. �* , framing the selection is spiritual warfare. , _ warfare. don't be bonded by those lies of the enemy. _ warfare. don't be bonded by those lies of the enemy. we _ warfare. don't be bonded by those lies of the enemy. we stand - warfare. don't be bonded by those lies of the enemy. we stand at - warfare. don't be bonded by those lies of the enemy. we stand at a l lies of the enemy. we stand at a crossroads right now in pennsylvania and this is our time, we are taking our country back and it starts right here. i our country back and it starts right here. ., _ ., ., ., here. i went to pennsylvania to find out what voters _ here. i went to pennsylvania to find out what voters were _ here. i went to pennsylvania to find out what voters were thinking, - out what voters were thinking, travelling deep into amish country. i had metjeff and janice at a campaign event, and theirfriends were visiting from out of state. i’m were visiting from out of state. i'm rroin to were visiting from out of state. i'm going to be — were visiting from out of state. i'm going to be voting conservative, not necessarily— going to be voting conservative, not necessarily republican. i look at lnoth— necessarily republican. i look at both sides. but most of what i hear from _ both sides. but most of what i hear from the _ both sides. but most of what i hear from the democratic side is not something i align with.- from the democratic side is not something i align with. what about mastriano? l _ something i align with. what about mastriano? i am _ something i align with. what about mastriano? i am well— something i align with. what about mastriano? i am well behind - something i align with. what about mastriano? i am well behind him. l something i align with. what about i mastriano? i am well behind him. to believe that — mastriano? i am well behind him. to believe that mastriano _ mastriano? i am well behind him. to believe that mastriano has _ mastriano? i am well behind him. to believe that mastriano has been - believe that mastriano has been called by god?— believe that mastriano has been - called by god?_ what called by god? yes, absolutely. what ou think called by god? yes, absolutely. what you think god — called by god? yes, absolutely. what you think god has _ called by god? yes, absolutely. what you think god has called _ called by god? yes, absolutely. what you think god has called them - called by god? yes, absolutely. what you think god has called them to - called by god? yes, absolutely. what you think god has called them to do? j you think god has called them to do? to get involved politically. iii you to get involved politically. if you read the stories _ to get involved politically. if you read the stories in _ to get involved politically. if you read the stories in the _ to get involved politically. if you read the stories in the bible, - to get involved politically. if you read the stories in the bible, he| read the stories in the bible, he uses _ read the stories in the bible, he uses people _ read the stories in the bible, he uses people to _ read the stories in the bible, he uses people to move _ read the stories in the bible, he uses people to move on- read the stories in the bible, he uses people to move on to - read the stories in the bible, he uses people to move on to do . read the stories in the bible, he - uses people to move on to do things in god's_ uses people to move on to do things in god's will— uses people to move on to do things in god's will and _ uses people to move on to do things in god's will and god _ uses people to move on to do things in god's will and god is _ uses people to move on to do things in god's will and god is calling - uses people to move on to do things in god's will and god is calling for. in god's will and god is calling for many— in god's will and god is calling for many people _ in god's will and god is calling for many people to _ in god's will and god is calling for many people to take _ in god's will and god is calling for many people to take back - in god's will and god is calling for many people to take back this - in god's will and god is calling for. many people to take back this world. are they— many people to take back this world. are they going — many people to take back this world. are they going to _ many people to take back this world. are they going to take _ many people to take back this world. are they going to take back- many people to take back this world. are they going to take back america i are they going to take back america now? he are they going to take back america now? . , are they going to take back america now? ., , , ., , �* , now? he did appoint trump. but this is rroin to now? he did appoint trump. but this is going to be — now? he did appoint trump. but this is going to be long-term. _ now? he did appoint trump. but this is going to be long-term. it's - now? he did appoint trump. but this is going to be long-term. it's going l is going to be long—term. it's going to take _ is going to be long—term. it's going to take a _ is going to be long—term. it's going to take a while to get this country back the — to take a while to get this country back the way it was. it took 30 or 40 years— back the way it was. it took 30 or 40 years to — back the way it was. it took 30 or 40 years to turn it around. but i think— 40 years to turn it around. but i think it — 40 years to turn it around. but i think it may— 40 years to turn it around. but i think it may take 20,24. 40 years to turn it around. but i think it may take 20, 24. 22 will be a bigm _ think it may take 20, 24. 22 will be a bigm it _ think it may take 20, 24. 22 will be a bigm it will— think it may take 20, 24. 22 will be a big... it will definitely set the pace _ a big... it will definitely set the pace on — a big... it will definitely set the pace on what's going to happen. but i pace on what's going to happen. but ithink— pace on what's going to happen. but i think god _ pace on what's going to happen. but i think god is going to come down and he's _ i think god is going to come down and he's going to make things change — and he's going to make things chance. �* , ., and he's going to make things chance. . i. ., ., ,, change. and you have taken the country back. — change. and you have taken the country back, what _ change. and you have taken the country back, what will- change. and you have taken the country back, what will that - change. and you have taken the | country back, what will that look like? i country back, what will that look like? ~' country back, what will that look like? ~ �* , ., ., country back, what will that look like? ~ �*, ., ., like? i think it's going to look rood. like? i think it's going to look good- you — like? i think it's going to look good. you have _ like? i think it's going to look good. you have got _ like? i think it's going to look good. you have got back- like? i think it's going to look good. you have got back in i like? i think it's going to look. good. you have got back in the government, you have god back in the schools. _ government, you have god back in the schools. you _ government, you have god back in the schools, you have the ten commandments, think about living by the ten _ commandments, think about living by the ten commandments. none of our kids even— the ten commandments. none of our kids even know them. sifter the ten commandments. none of our kids even know them.— kids even know them. after we spoke they headed — kids even know them. after we spoke they headed to _ kids even know them. after we spoke they headed to an _ kids even know them. after we spoke they headed to an event _ kids even know them. after we spoke they headed to an event where - kids even know them. after we spoke they headed to an event where the i they headed to an event where the christian right is finding a new voice. ~ . ., , ., voice. where am i a christian nationalist _ voice. where am i a christian nationalist at _ voice. where am i a christian nationalist at in _ voice. where am i a christian nationalist at in this? - voice. where am i a christian nationalist at in this? thank. voice. where am i a christian - nationalist at in this? thank you! this is— nationalist at in this? thank you! this is the — nationalist at in this? thank you! this is the reawakened _ nationalist at in this? thank you! this is the reawakened tour, - this is the reawakened tour, travelling roadshow attracting tens of thousands of people as it crisscrosses the nation. you cannot se arate crisscrosses the nation. you cannot separate god _ crisscrosses the nation. you cannot separate god from _ crisscrosses the nation. you cannot separate god from politics. - crisscrosses the nation. you cannot separate god from politics. you - separate god from politics. you cannot take it out of our government. it cannot take it out of our government.— cannot take it out of our government. cannot take it out of our rovernment. , . , government. it is -- the attendees are anti-vaccination _ government. it is -- the attendees are anti-vaccination and _ government. it is -- the attendees l are anti-vaccination and anti-masker are anti—vaccination and anti—masker and they are invoking god to stop this deal. 0n the sidelines, hundreds of people queued to be baptised, by water and by the spirit. it feels like a church service. and it has felt like a church service several times a day but then again, it felt too a political rally, so it is both. i have never really seen such a mixture of religion and politics. top billing was shared by a handful of trump loyalists. the general who served two presidents ten convicted of lying to the fbi. the political operative convicted of lying to congress. collecting money for his legal fees. congress. collecting money for his legalfees. and congress. collecting money for his legal fees. and the congress. collecting money for his legalfees. and the man himself dialled in while his son was on stage. dialled in while his son was on stare. ~ . dialled in while his son was on stare. . ., ., dialled in while his son was on stare. ~ . ., ., , dialled in while his son was on stare. . ., ., ., , , stage. we are going to bring this country back _ stage. we are going to bring this country back because _ stage. we are going to bring this country back because our - stage. we are going to bring this| country back because our country stage. we are going to bring this - country back because our country has never been in such bad shape. it is never been in such bad shape. it is a carnival of— never been in such bad shape. it is a carnival of chaos. _ never been in such bad shape. it is a carnival of chaos. those who are preaching fraud and conspiracy is in christ, that's the power of the message. the mid—term election will be the first test of how this plays out at the polls. this new christian right is out of step with the direction of the country, fighting against changing moral values, framing that is a battle against evil. ~ . , framing that is a battle against evil. . . , , ., , evil. what it ends up doing is turnin: evil. what it ends up doing is turning political— evil. what it ends up doing is turning political opponents i evil. what it ends up doing is l turning political opponents into enemies. and that is a kind of threat to the whole democratic project. i threat to the whole democratic ro'ect. ., , , , threat to the whole democratic ro'ect. .,, , , ., , project. i hope it ends up on us findinr a project. i hope it ends up on us finding a way — project. i hope it ends up on us finding a way to _ project. i hope it ends up on us finding a way to have _ project. i hope it ends up on us finding a way to have our- project. i hope it ends up on us finding a way to have our own l finding a way to have our own regions — finding a way to have our own regions of— finding a way to have our own regions of the nation and living peacefully together. it is regions of the nation and living peacefully together.— peacefully together. it is a minority — peacefully together. it is a minority but _ peacefully together. it is a minority but backed - peacefully together. it is a minority but backed by - peacefully together. it is a - minority but backed by powerful politics and if republicans win big could be an outsides influence, pushing the party in the church further to the right. —— the party and the church. hello there. it's been very wet for some of us this weekend. this unsettled theme does continue into the start of the new week, with low pressure nearby, rain and gates followed by sunshine and blustery showers. but then by around mid—week, wednesday into thursday, high pressure starts to build in. it'll settle things down. it'll also turn very mild with our air source coming in from the south. but at the moment we've still got low pressure with us, quite a few isobars on the chart, so blustery showers, sunny spells through the afternoon and that theme continues into the evening and overnight with clear spells, blustery showers, even longer spells of rain pushing from south to north, and the winds picking up — gale force across the south west. southern areas seeing temperatures in double figures. we could see mid single digits across the north east of scotland. so for monday, then, it's an unsettled start, blustery showers, longer spells of rain spreading from the south to the north and the winds picking up, touching gale force across many southern and western coasts, in excess of 50 miles an hour, maybe up to around 60 miles an hour near coasts and over hills. but a blustery day for all areas, but mild for the time of year. the mid—teens for many. but it might not feel like that because of the strength of the wind and also all the showers around. then through monday night, a band of heavy rain and gates spreads across the country. so for tuesday, we're in the same theme of blustery showers and sunny spells. most of the showers again affecting southern and western areas. some of them will be heavy, some rumbles of thunder, the strongest of the winds around southern and western coasts cnce again. probably the greater chance of staying drier will be towards the north and the east. but again, very mild, 15 to 16 celsius in the south, low teens further north. some subtle changes into wednesday — high pressure beginning to build across the south west, pushing this area of low pressure northward. so i think the windiest, wettest weather will tend to be across the north and the west of scotland. further south, fewer showers around, one or two around, mind you, but a greater chance of staying dry with some sunshine. again, mild in the south, low teens across the north. and then as we move into thursday, that area of high pressure over the near continent builds in, pushes these weather systems out at bay, and we start to draw our air in from the azores and the subtropics. so it really will be very mild through thursday and friday with temperatures well above the seasonal norm. now, it's not going to be completely sunny and dry. there will be still a few showers in the northwest of the uk. quite a bit of cloud around, but noticeably mild. this is bbc news. i'm ben brown. the headlines at five. union leaders say nurses are likely to take their first ever national strike action before christmas. downing street says the prime minister believes "abusive" text messages sent by the cabinet minister gavin williamson were "unacceptable. 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currents in us politics but in a country deeply divided, the christian right has found a new voice. ~ , ., ., voice. we desire to live in a judaeo-christian _ voice. we desire to live in a judaeo-christian nation - voice. we desire to live in a | judaeo-christian nation with judaeo—christian nation with judaeo—christian nation with judaeo—christian values. it judaeo-christian nation with judaeo-christian values. it claims christianity _ judaeo-christian values. it claims christianity is _ judaeo-christian values. it claims christianity is under _ judaeo-christian values. it claims christianity is under attack - judaeo-christian values. it claims christianity is under attack and i christianity is under attack and that god belongs in government. with pastors preaching its message in churches and its beliefs guiding ultraconservative candidates in the mid—term elections. i’m ultraconservative candidates in the mid-term elections.— ultraconservative candidates in the mid-term elections. i'm a christian, i sa we mid-term elections. i'm a christian, i say we should _ mid-term elections. i'm a christian, i say we should be _ mid-term elections. i'm a christian, i say we should be christian - i say we should be christian nationalists.— i say we should be christian nationalists. ., , ' :: nationalists. the movement is 90 minutes christian _ nationalists. the movement is 90 minutes christian nationalism - nationalists. the movement is 90! minutes christian nationalism and the far right is taking it to the extreme. ~ ., the far right is taking it to the extreme. ~ . , ., extreme. we are the christian taliban. some _ extreme. we are the christian taliban. some ward _ extreme. we are the christian taliban. some ward this - extreme. we are the christian taliban. some ward this is - taliban. some ward this is fundamentally _ taliban. some ward this is i fundamentally undemocratic. taliban. some ward this is - fundamentally undemocratic. it was amlified fundamentally undemocratic. it was amplified by — fundamentally undemocratic. it was amplified by donald _ fundamentally undemocratic. it was amplified by donald trump. - fundamentally undemocratic. it was amplified by donald trump. we - fundamentally undemocratic. it w; amplified by donald trump. we are going to protect christianity and i can say that, i don't have to be politically correct.— can say that, i don't have to be politically correct. powered by his election loss, _ politically correct. powered by his election loss, it _ politically correct. powered by his election loss, it broke _ politically correct. powered by his election loss, it broke cover- politically correct. powered by his election loss, it broke cover at. politically correct. powered by his| election loss, it broke cover at the storming of the capital onjanuary the 6th last year. you storming of the capital on january the 6th last year.— the 6th last year. you can't diminish — the 6th last year. you can't diminish what _ the 6th last year. you can't diminish what happened i the 6th last year. you can't! diminish what happened on the 6th last year. you can't - diminish what happened on january diminish what happened onjanuary the 6th from what's happening in some centuries on sunday morning. their crusader starting from the ground up and education is the front line. , . ., ., ground up and education is the front line. ,. , , ground up and education is the front line. ,. , ., line. our school board meetings are olice line. our school board meetings are police officers _ line. our school board meetings are police officers at _ line. our school board meetings are police officers at the _ line. our school board meetings are police officers at the meetings - line. our school board meetings are police officers at the meetings to i police officers at the meetings to escort_ police officers at the meetings to escort people out if they get too out of _ escort people out if they get too out of control. to escort people out if they get too out of control.— escort people out if they get too out of control. to understand this moment in _ out of control. to understand this moment in us — out of control. to understand this moment in us politics _ out of control. to understand this moment in us politics you - out of control. to understand this moment in us politics you have i out of control. to understand this| moment in us politics you have to understand this movement. i met people across the country who fail they are battling for the soul of america. —— you feel. tarrant tarra nt county, known tarrant county, known for conservative churches, wealthy white neighbourhoods and good schools. it is america's largest republican urban community and it helped elect donald trump. but in 2020, joe biden won here by a hair. this politically crucial corner of texas has become a testing ground for how conservatives can maintain their grip. it is 6:30 in the morning. like every parent, laney is rushing to get her children ready for the day. but in the past few months, she has spent more and more of her time focused on schooling, fighting back against what she believes is a growing conservative and christian influence in the classroom.— in the classroom. when we first got here everything _ in the classroom. when we first got here everything is _ in the classroom. when we first got here everything is mild, _ in the classroom. when we first got here everything is mild, school- here everything is mild, school board meetings were boring. then everything ramped up to this and this is where we are now. it is a fight. our school board meetings have police officers at the meetings to escort people out who get too out of control. ., ., , , ., to escort people out who get too out of control, ., ., , , ., ., of control. school boards are ground zero of the — of control. school boards are ground zero of the culture _ of control. school boards are ground zero of the culture wars _ of control. school boards are ground zero of the culture wars taking i zero of the culture wars taking place across the country. in tarrant county, they are churning with disputes over what children are taught about sexuality, gender identity, the history of racism and of what they should be allowed to read. ., ., , ., , ., read. there are only two genders and they shouldn't _ read. there are only two genders and they shouldn't allowed _ read. there are only two genders and they shouldn't allowed to _ read. there are only two genders and they shouldn't allowed to use - they shouldn't allowed to use fantasy — they shouldn't allowed to use fantasy pronouns.— they shouldn't allowed to use fantasy pronouns. fight like hell! this is censorship, _ fantasy pronouns. fight like hell! this is censorship, it _ fantasy pronouns. fight like hell! this is censorship, it is _ fantasy pronouns. fight like hell! this is censorship, it is much i fantasy pronouns. fight like hell! i this is censorship, it is much more than _ this is censorship, it is much more than politics — this is censorship, it is much more than politics. this— this is censorship, it is much more than politics. this is— this is censorship, it is much more than politics. this is about - this is censorship, it is much more than politics. this is about lives. i than politics. this is about lives. there _ than politics. this is about lives. there is— than politics. this is about lives. there is a — than politics. this is about lives. there is a higher— than politics. this is about lives. there is a higher rate _ than politics. this is about lives. there is a higher rate for- than politics. this is about lives. i there is a higher rate for suicide. having _ there is a higher rate for suicide. having support _ there is a higher rate for suicide. having support from _ there is a higher rate for suicide. having support from your - there is a higher rate for suicide. having support from your home, | there is a higher rate for suicide. i having support from your home, your peers _ having support from your home, your peers and _ having support from your home, your peers and your— having support from your home, your peers and your school— having support from your home, your peers and your school means - having support from your home, your peers and your school means adversei peers and your school means adverse mental _ peers and your school means adverse mental health — peers and your school means adverse mental health effects _ peers and your school means adverse mental health effects and _ peers and your school means adverse mental health effects and eventuallyl mental health effects and eventually suicide _ mental health effects and eventually suicide attempts. _ mental health effects and eventually suicide attempts.— suicide attempts. transforming low-profile _ suicide attempts. transforming low-profile elections _ suicide attempts. transforming low-profile elections into i low—profile elections into high—stakes political conflicts and high—sta kes political conflicts and central to high—stakes political conflicts and central to that is christianity, but not through the pews. remember when america stood — not through the pews. remember when america stood for— not through the pews. remember when america stood for things _ not through the pews. remember when america stood for things like _ america stood for things like honour, freedom, personal responsibility and faith? enter a texas cell phone _ responsibility and faith? enter a texas cell phone company i responsibility and faith? enter a texas cell phone company on i responsibility and faith? enter a texas cell phone company on a | texas cell phone company on a mission to protect conservative christian values. it spent nearly half $1 million supporting 11 candidates in four districts. all of them won. 11 candidates in four districts. all of them won-— candidates in four districts. all of themwon. , ., ,. , them won. 11 seats on school boards. it is art them won. 11 seats on school boards. it is part of — them won. 11 seats on school boards. it is part of a — them won. 11 seats on school boards. it is part of a new _ them won. 11 seats on school boards. it is part of a new effort _ them won. 11 seats on school boards. it is part of a new effort by _ it is part of a new effort by republicans to take over politics from the ground up. backed by political operatives like former trump adviser steve bannon. fine political operatives like former trump adviser steve bannon. one of the ke s is trump adviser steve bannon. one of the keys is these _ trump adviser steve bannon. one of the keys is these school— trump adviser steve bannon. one of the keys is these school boards, i the keys is these school boards, they are the key that picks the lock. tell us about what you did in tarrant county.— tarrant county. since then those schoolboys _ tarrant county. since then those schoolboys have _ tarrant county. since then those schoolboys have begun - tarrant county. since then those schoolboys have begun to i tarrant county. since then those schoolboys have begun to put i tarrant county. since then those i schoolboys have begun to put new restrictions on books and gender identity issues. —— those school boards. the owner of patriot mobile recruited long—time political operator to help mobilise the country —— the christian message. every mother of school age kids, it's really— every mother of school age kids, it's really quite concerning. we have _ it's really quite concerning. we have never— it's really quite concerning. we have never in the city is that we were _ have never in the city is that we were dealing with had christianity so attacked. were dealing with had christianity so attacked-— were dealing with had christianity i so attacked._ look so attacked. what do you mean? look at some of the — so attacked. what do you mean? look at some of the public— so attacked. what do you mean? look at some of the public comments i so attacked. what do you mean? look at some of the public comments in i at some of the public comments in school— at some of the public comments in school boards, bill calling christianity a terrible racist negative thing. and the reason we started _ negative thing. and the reason we started with school boards is because _ started with school boards is because that is the level of government that is most impacting the future — government that is most impacting the future of our country. what we were _ the future of our country. what we were seeing is the indoctrination instead — were seeing is the indoctrination instead of— were seeing is the indoctrination instead of education. do were seeing is the indoctrination instead of education.— were seeing is the indoctrination instead of education. do you have a responsibility _ instead of education. do you have a responsibility back _ instead of education. do you have a responsibility back into _ instead of education. do you have a responsibility back into the - instead of education. do you have a responsibility back into the schools| responsibility back into the schools in some way? h0 responsibility back into the schools in some way?— responsibility back into the schools in some way? responsibility back into the schools in some wa ? ., , ., . ., in some way? no question. we need to have a little _ in some way? no question. we need to have a little bit — in some way? no question. we need to have a little bit more faith _ in some way? no question. we need to have a little bit more faith in _ have a little bit more faith in schools in the sense of, we have to remove what i feel is ungodly stuff out of the school.— out of the school. recently, texas astor out of the school. recently, texas pastor has — out of the school. recently, texas pastor has said _ out of the school. recently, texas pastor has said schools _ out of the school. recently, texas pastor has said schools had - out of the school. recently, texas pastor has said schools had to i pastor has said schools had to display posters of the national motto if they were donated. patriot mobile delivered hundreds. lainey and other parents saw an opportunity to take a stand. this man has two children in school, he asked students to design signs that would include them. these were the voices he felt were unhurt. arabic speakers, transgender and gay kids. the school board initially rejected the signs, the issue has gone to court. the signs, the issue has gone to court, , the signs, the issue has gone to court. , , ., �* the signs, the issue has gone to court. ,, ., �* , ., court. schools shouldn't be a place where ou court. schools shouldn't be a place where you have — court. schools shouldn't be a place where you have people _ court. schools shouldn't be a place where you have people competing| where you have people competing about which is the best card. but that's where _ about which is the best card. but that's where we are. it _ about which is the best card. but that's where we are. it should i about which is the best card. but i that's where we are. it should never be that. that's where we are. it should never be that- your _ that's where we are. it should never be that. your religious _ be that. your religious institutions, temples, houses. fir institutions, temples, houses. 0r accept all gods. 0r make it a place for everything, absolutely. the si . ns for everything, absolutely. the signs may _ for everything, absolutely. the signs may have _ for everything, absolutely. tia: signs may have been a political stunt that they see something more sinister at work. we stunt that they see something more sinister at work.— sinister at work. we see the republican _ sinister at work. we see the republican party _ sinister at work. we see the republican party who i sinister at work. we see the republican party who have l sinister at work. we see the i republican party who have decided one of the goal is to bring god into schools. that is the plan long term, to bring god also into the government. to me, it is anti—american, to try and bring christian ideology into our schools or our government. our country is based on allowing people to make that choice for themselves. i raised the sin that choice for themselves. i raised the sign controversy _ that choice for themselves. i raised the sign controversy with _ that choice for themselves. i raised the sign controversy with patriot i the sign controversy with patriot mobile. it the sign controversy with patriot mobile. . , . . the sign controversy with patriot mobile. ., , . ., ., the sign controversy with patriot mobile. . ., ., ., mobile. it has created a great uroar mobile. it has created a great uproar because _ mobile. it has created a great uproar because folks - mobile. it has created a great uproar because folks hate i mobile. it has created a great uproar because folks hate the concept _ uproar because folks hate the concept. my response is, it's the national— concept. my response is, it's the national motto, we are not doing anythingm — national motto, we are not doing anything... if you don't like it, take _ anything... if you don't like it, take every— anything... if you don't like it, take every go out of your pocket and threw _ take every go out of your pocket and threw it _ take every go out of your pocket and threw it away because every ball and every _ threw it away because every ball and every coin _ threw it away because every ball and eve coin. ., ., �* ~' threw it away because every ball and eve coin. ., ., �* ~ every coin. you don't think it was an issue of _ every coin. you don't think it was an issue of who _ every coin. you don't think it was an issue of who is _ every coin. you don't think it was an issue of who is god _ every coin. you don't think it was an issue of who is god do - every coin. you don't think it was an issue of who is god do we i every coin. you don't think it was i an issue of who is god do we trust? because the alternatives brought forward or an arabic and, you know... it forward or an arabic and, you know... . , forward or an arabic and, you know... ., , ., forward or an arabic and, you know... ., ., know... it was more political than 'ust the know... it was more political than just the word _ know... it was more political than just the word god. _ know. .. it was more political than just the word god. for— know. .. it was more political than just the word god. for all- know... it was more political than just the word god. for all parents here, this boils _ just the word god. for all parents here, this boils down _ just the word god. for all parents here, this boils down to _ just the word god. for all parents here, this boils down to the i just the word god. for all parents| here, this boils down to the future of their children. and who gets to shape what that will become. the concerns i found in texas echo resoundingly through the conservative christian establishment. this fear of a cultural takeover by what they labelled the radical left. the southern baptist theological seminary in lewisville kentucky is one of the largest in the world. training leaders who are shaping the future of the evangelical church. have you and other christian leaders taken on a more overtly political role? . , , taken on a more overtly political role? ._ , , , ., role? inevitably, because christian reachers role? inevitably, because christian preachers didn't _ role? inevitably, because christian preachers didn't have _ role? inevitably, because christian preachers didn't have to _ role? inevitably, because christian preachers didn't have to preach i preachers didn't have to preach about lgbtq issues in any sense as we do now because it does not issues of the country, nobody was talking about them. this of the country, nobody was talking about them-— about them. this shift has been a fundamental _ about them. this shift has been a fundamental change _ about them. this shift has been a fundamental change for - about them. this shift has been a fundamental change for both i about them. this shift has been a fundamental change for both the | fundamental change for both the country and the church. for conservative _ country and the church. fr?" conservative christians there has been a dawning awareness of the fact that whereas the society basically agreed with us in almost every important issue, i mean, the overlap, if you take a venn diagram, was so overwhelming that outsiders would hold the united states a christian nation. something has clearly changed and conservative christians in this country are now in a paradox or a predicament, i think that's why you see such, you know, it would be called by those who don't look at the rise of the new christian right, or the awakening of the christian vote in the united states, well, there is a reason for that. the the united states, well, there is a reason for that.— the united states, well, there is a reason for that. the rise of the new christian right _ reason for that. the rise of the new christian right is _ reason for that. the rise of the new christian right is called _ reason for that. the rise of the new christian right is called christian i christian right is called christian nationalism by some. a belief that america was founded as a christian nation and that the government should keep it that way. blurring the line between church and state. christian nationalism is a new term for a very old phenomenon. it privileges a religious identity with citizenship in its most virulent form it turns out also have an racial component to it. in the us that component has been round of european descent or whiteness, as it has developed in the country. when i talk about christian nationalism in the us, usually talk about white christian nationalism.— the us, usually talk about white christian nationalism. donald trump was seen as — christian nationalism. donald trump was seen as defending _ christian nationalism. donald trump was seen as defending their- christian nationalism. donald trump was seen as defending their cause i was seen as defending their cause when he entered the white house. we are going to protect christianity and i_ are going to protect christianity and i can— are going to protect christianity and i can say that i don't have to be politically correct. and and i can say that i don't have to be politically correct.— be politically correct. and it was the storming — be politically correct. and it was the storming of— be politically correct. and it was the storming of the _ be politically correct. and it was the storming of the capitol i be politically correct. and it was the storming of the capitol that| the storming of the capitol that showed just how much religious and political identities had begun to emerge on the right. funded by believe the election had been stolen. , , , , believe the election had been stolen, , , , , , stolen. jesus christ, we 'ust broke in! many reject h stolen. jesus christ, we 'ust broke in! many reject the i stolen. jesus christ, we just broke in! many reject the christian i in! many re'ect the christian nationalist i in! many reject the christian nationalist label _ in! many reject the christian nationalist label as - in! many reject the christian nationalist label as a - in! many reject the christian nationalist label as a leftist| nationalist label as a leftist smear. but a few right—wing politicians are embracing its rhetoric. ~ ., ., , , politicians are embracing its rhetoric. ., ., , , ., rhetoric. we have to be the party of nationalism — rhetoric. we have to be the party of nationalism and _ rhetoric. we have to be the party of nationalism and i'm _ rhetoric. we have to be the party of nationalism and i'm a _ rhetoric. we have to be the party of nationalism and i'm a christian i rhetoric. we have to be the party of nationalism and i'm a christian and | nationalism and i'm a christian and i nationalism and i'm a christian and i say— nationalism and i'm a christian and i say we _ nationalism and i'm a christian and i say we should be christian nationalists.— i say we should be christian nationalists. . . , , , nationalists. the church is supposed to direct government _ nationalists. the church is supposed to direct government not _ nationalists. the church is supposed to direct government not the - to direct government not the opposite. the church is supposed to influence government. and we need to be so involved in what is going on in our government.— in our government. online, extremists _ in our government. online, extremists have _ in our government. online, extremists have taken i in our government. online, extremists have taken it i in our government. online, i extremists have taken it even further. ~ ., , ., further. we are the christian taliban, this _ further. we are the christian taliban, this is _ further. we are the christian taliban, this is the - further. we are the christian taliban, this is the era i further. we are the christian taliban, this is the era of. taliban, this is the era of christian— taliban, this is the era of christian nationalism. what's different now _ christian nationalism. what's different now is _ christian nationalism. what's different now is that - christian nationalism. what's different now is that the i christian nationalism. what's i different now is that the country is no longer a majority white christian. as easily as 2008 when barack obama was first running for president, the country was actually 54% white and christian so comfortably majority. that number todayis comfortably majority. that number today is 1m. i think that threat that white christians are no longer in control, demographically, culturally or politically, is why we are seeing it come to the fore in the current context.— are seeing it come to the fore in the current context. dominant voices in black church _ the current context. dominant voices in black church are _ the current context. dominant voices in black church are also _ the current context. dominant voices in black church are also sounding i in black church are also sounding the alarm about the racial implications of the movement and they warn that the spirit of the january the 6th attack was not contained in the capitol. you can't diminish what _ contained in the capitol. you can't diminish what happened on i contained in the capitol. you can't| diminish what happened on january diminish what happened onjanuary the 6th from what's happening in some sanctuaries on sunday morning. you can't separate this passion to overthrow the nation plasma capital with violence injanuary overthrow the nation plasma capital with violence in january the overthrow the nation plasma capital with violence injanuary the 6th from the rhetoric that we hear on christian radio. you can't separate this desire to pull down elected officials and make —— maybe even call for their murder, versus what we hearfrankly from people call for their murder, versus what we hear frankly from people all across the nation, even elected officials, who are praying for the death of the president.- officials, who are praying for the death of the president. many pastors were at the capitol _ death of the president. many pastors were at the capitol that _ death of the president. many pastors were at the capitol that day. - death of the president. many pastors were at the capitol that day. i - were at the capitol that day. i travelled to tennessee, deep in the bible belt, where one of them continues to preach. so the pastor has asked me to meet him here on this overpass to watch him waving flags. seems a bit of a patriotic stunt, i think he does it a lot. hello, pastor. how are you? i'm doing good, thank you, god bless you. doing good, thank you, god bless ou. �* , , , doing good, thank you, god bless ou. , ., you. and god bless america, and god bless donald — you. and god bless america, and god bless donald trump. _ you. and god bless america, and god bless donald trump. ken _ you. and god bless america, and god bless donald trump. ken peters i you. and god bless america, and god bless donald trump. ken peters has i bless donald trump. ken peters has denounced the violence of the capitol right but still defines what he sees as a patriotic mission. brute he sees as a patriotic mission. we do feel he sees as a patriotic mission. - do feel like god has a special plan for this country and he still has a plan for this country. fin for this country and he still has a plan for this country.— plan for this country. on january the 6th you _ plan for this country. on january the 6th you thought _ plan for this country. on january the 6th you thought that - plan for this country. on january the 6th you thought that was i plan for this country. on january i the 6th you thought that was under threat? ~ , ,., , the 6th you thought that was under threat? ~ ,,., , ~ the 6th you thought that was under threat? ~ , ,., , ~ ~' threat? absolutely. we felt like the enem , threat? absolutely. we felt like the enemy. meaning — threat? absolutely. we felt like the enemy, meaning leftists, _ threat? absolutely. we felt like the enemy, meaning leftists, who i threat? absolutely. we felt like the j enemy, meaning leftists, who don't like christians, had stolen our nation. f . . . , ., nation. peters' petric church is one of a growing _ nation. peters' petric church is one of a growing number _ nation. peters' petric church is one of a growing number of _ of a growing number of nondenominational starter congregations that say they want to take back the country for god. i was a little unsure of what to expect. as someone who grew up in the church, what i heard he was not the gospel and new. political activism is an act of worship. the gospel and new. political activism is an act of worship.— gospel and new. political activism is an act of worship. the lgbtq on the left are — is an act of worship. the lgbtq on the left are saying, _ is an act of worship. the lgbtq on the left are saying, you _ is an act of worship. the lgbtq on the left are saying, you are - is an act of worship. the lgbtq on | the left are saying, you are church, separation of church and state, get in the stands, you can't play in the game. church, preachers, you stand up game. church, preachers, you stand up in the stands, separation of church an aggressive response to a sense of being under siege stop missions will have to get feisty. brute missions will have to get feisty. we will have to get the fight a little bit. will have to get the fight a little bit you — will have to get the fight a little bit. you can stick your head in the sand _ bit. you can stick your head in the sand when— bit. you can stick your head in the sand when it — bit. you can stick your head in the sand when it comes to politics. for him, that sand when it comes to politics. fr?" him, that means a crusade against abortion. hf him, that means a crusade against abortion. ,., .., ., ., abortion. if god can overturn roe v wade, he abortion. if god can overturn roe v wade. he can _ abortion. if god can overturn roe v wade. he can do — abortion. if god can overturn roe v wade, he can do anything. - abortion. if god can overturn roe v wade, he can do anything. and i abortion. if god can overturn roe v - wade, he can do anything. and ending same-sex marriage. _ wade, he can do anything. and ending same-sex marriage. yes, _ wade, he can do anything. and ending same-sex marriage. yes, i _ wade, he can do anything. and ending same-sex marriage. yes, i want - wade, he can do anything. and ending same-sex marriage. yes, i want to - same-sex marriage. yes, i want to exclude certain — same-sex marriage. yes, i want to exclude certain types _ same-sex marriage. yes, i want to exclude certain types of _ exclude certain types of relationships, sexual relationships, from marriage, it is special to us. it is in _ from marriage, it is special to us. it is in the — from marriage, it is special to us. it is in the bible, it is something we really— it is in the bible, it is something we really care about. you it is in the bible, it is something we really care about.— it is in the bible, it is something we really care about. you want a government _ we really care about. you want a government that _ we really care about. you want a government that would - we really care about. you want a government that would impose i we really care about. you want a i government that would impose that quickly i want a government that keeps marriage what it has always been. what he preaches from the pulpit is meant to be taken to the polls. pulpit is meant to be taken to the olls. ~ ., , ~ ., polls. we endorse monte fritz, we endorse him- _ polls. we endorse monte fritz, we endorse him. and _ polls. we endorse monte fritz, we endorse him. and his— polls. we endorse monte fritz, we endorse him. and his message - polls. we endorse monte fritz, we - endorse him. and his message seems to be the patrick _ endorse him. and his message seems to be the patrickjudges _ endorse him. and his message seems to be the patrickjudges have - to be the patrickjudges have expanded to several locations for the peters says they are attracting followers from more liberal states. to me this isn't anything new, it is just how i even grew up in a country. just how i even grew up in a count . just how i even grew up in a country-— just how i even grew up in a count . , ., ., country. there is nothing wrong with that. and some _ country. there is nothing wrong with that. and some try _ country. there is nothing wrong with that. and some try to _ country. there is nothing wrong with that. and some try to shame - country. there is nothing wrong with that. and some try to shame us - country. there is nothing wrong with that. and some try to shame us for. that. and some try to shame us for loving our country, this is what god raised us to do. we loving our country, this is what god raised us to do.— loving our country, this is what god raised us to do. we wanted to find a lace that raised us to do. we wanted to find a place that wasn't _ raised us to do. we wanted to find a place that wasn't afraid _ raised us to do. we wanted to find a place that wasn't afraid to _ raised us to do. we wanted to find a place that wasn't afraid to take - raised us to do. we wanted to find a place that wasn't afraid to take a - place that wasn't afraid to take a stand. _ place that wasn't afraid to take a stand, that wasn't afraid to speak out if— stand, that wasn't afraid to speak out if there — stand, that wasn't afraid to speak out if there were issues that they thought— out if there were issues that they thought needed to be spoken about. we are _ thought needed to be spoken about. we are definitely a christian nation, _ we are definitely a christian nation, we _ we are definitely a christian nation, we should _ we are definitely a christian nation, we should be. - we are definitely a christian nation, we should be. so i we are definitely a christian nation, we should be. so to| we are definitely a christian i nation, we should be. so to try we are definitely a christian - nation, we should be. so to try to separate — nation, we should be. so to try to separate politics— nation, we should be. so to try to separate politics from _ nation, we should be. so to try to separate politics from the - nation, we should be. so to try to separate politics from the churchl nation, we should be. so to try to. separate politics from the church is asinine. _ separate politics from the church is asinine. it— separate politics from the church is asinine, it cannot _ separate politics from the church is asinine, it cannot be _ separate politics from the church is asinine, it cannot be done. - separate politics from the church is asinine, it cannot be done. if- asinine, it cannot be done. if you are doing — asinine, it cannot be done. if you are doing it. _ asinine, it cannot be done. if you are doing it, you're _ asinine, it cannot be done. if you are doing it, you're probably- asinine, it cannot be done. if you. are doing it, you're probably doing something — are doing it, you're probably doing something wrong. _ something wrong. i wanted - something wrong. i wanted to - something wrong. i wanted to knowl something wrong. i i wanted to know if something wrong. - i wanted to know if other something wrong. — i wanted to know if other churches in tennessee felt the same way, so i continued the journey to the city of franklin, south of nashville anna place that has become the new frontier for evangelical christianity. i joined an frontier for evangelical christianity. ijoined an early morning meeting of community activists work with the homeless, led by pastor kevin riggs. he grew up led by pastor kevin riggs. he grew up as a conservative evangelical and had dreams of becoming a mega— church pastor. but a close reading of the bible convinced him god cared more about social justice. of the bible convinced him god cared more about socialjustice. there of the bible convinced him god cared more about socialjustice.— more about social 'ustice. there is division within — more about social 'ustice. there is division within the— more about socialjustice. there is division within the church - more about socialjustice. there is division within the church that - more about socialjustice. there is division within the church that i . division within the church that i haven't— division within the church that i haven't seen. i have had friends who are pastors— haven't seen. i have had friends who are pastors because they spoke out against _ are pastors because they spoke out against the religious right or against _ against the religious right or against president trump, and then they were — against president trump, and then they were asked to leave their church — they were asked to leave their church. ~ ., , they were asked to leave their church. ~ . , ., ., , ., church. what is the danger, do you think? you — church. what is the danger, do you think? you hear— church. what is the danger, do you think? you hear the _ church. what is the danger, do you think? you hear the term - church. what is the danger, do you think? you hear the term a - church. what is the danger, do you think? you hear the term a lot - church. what is the danger, do you think? you hear the term a lot in i think? you hear the term a lot in evangelical _ think? you hear the term a lot in evangelical circles _ think? you hear the term a lot in evangelical circles that _ think? you hear the term a lot in evangelical circles that we - think? you hear the term a lot in evangelical circles that we are i evangelical circles that we are fighting — evangelical circles that we are fighting a cultural war. you could very easily— fighting a cultural war. you could very easily replace the word culture with civil _ very easily replace the word culture with civil and that's kind of where we are, _ with civil and that's kind of where we are, it's — with civil and that's kind of where we are, it's been a called civil war, — we are, it's been a called civil war. it's — we are, it's been a called civil war, it's been about ideology and fighting _ war, it's been about ideology and fighting for these things but it could — fighting for these things but it could quickly become violent. it could _ could quickly become violent. it could become, you know, the right will have _ could become, you know, the right will have a — could become, you know, the right will have a tendency to take up arms to protect _ will have a tendency to take up arms to protect their rights.— to protect their rights. there are astors to protect their rights. there are pastors who _ to protect their rights. there are pastors who seem _ to protect their rights. there are pastors who seem to _ to protect their rights. there are pastors who seem to court - pastors who seem to court controversy, even thrive on it. greg locke burned catholic rosaries and harry potter books on halloween night, objects of sorcery and witchcraft, he called them. we don't have to be so _ witchcraft, he called them. we don't have to be so careful— witchcraft, he called them. we don't have to be so careful with _ witchcraft, he called them. we don't have to be so careful with what - witchcraft, he called them. we don't have to be so careful with what they| have to be so careful with what they say... i have to be so careful with what they sa ., , ., ., say... i met him in a studio near nashville _ say... i met him in a studio near nashville where _ say... i met him in a studio near nashville where he _ say... i met him in a studio near nashville where he films - say... i met him in a studio near nashville where he films his - say... i met him in a studio near- nashville where he films his webcast about faith and politics. social media, that's _ about faith and politics. social media, that's the _ about faith and politics. social media, that's the biggest - about faith and politics. social| media, that's the biggest part, about faith and politics. social- media, that's the biggest part, it's about 4.6 million people across all facebook and all the platforms, and at the end of the day we have millions of people that watch, and that brings a lot of people to the church. ,., ., ., ., ., church. good evening! he made a name for himself as — church. good evening! he made a name for himself as a — church. good evening! he made a name for himself as a trump _ church. good evening! he made a name for himself as a trump pastor— church. good evening! he made a name for himself as a trump pastor but - church. good evening! he made a name for himself as a trump pastor but he - for himself as a trump pastor but he really took off by challenging the covid shutdown. and yes, he was also at the capitol right. you covid shutdown. and yes, he was also at the capitol right.— at the capitol right. you ain't seen in insurrection _ at the capitol right. you ain't seen in insurrection yet! _ at the capitol right. you ain't seen in insurrection yet! he _ at the capitol right. you ain't seen in insurrection yet! he preaches i in insurrection yet! he preaches olitics in insurrection yet! he preaches politics to _ in insurrection yet! he preaches politics to his — in insurrection yet! he preaches politics to his following - in insurrection yet! he preaches politics to his following that - in insurrection yet! he preaches politics to his following that can sound like extremist rants. you got hit in communist, _ sound like extremist rants. you got hit in communist, you _ sound like extremist rants. you got hit in communist, you will - sound like extremist rants. you got hit in communist, you will find - sound like extremist rants. you got| hit in communist, you will find what insurrection — hit in communist, you will find what insurrection is, we are not playing garbage, — insurrection is, we are not playing garbage, my bible says that the church _ garbage, my bible says that the church of— garbage, my bible says that the church of the living god! you also said in your _ church of the living god! you also said in your church _ church of the living god! you also said in your church that _ church of the living god! you also | said in your church that democrats are demons, do you really believe that? �* , , are demons, do you really believe that? ~ , , ., . that? absolutely. the democratic pa is that? absolutely. the democratic party is demonically _ that? absolutely. the democratic party is demonically energised, i that? absolutely. the democratic party is demonically energised, ifj party is demonically energised, if you believe in butchering babies, you believe in butchering babies, you celebrate stolen elections and you celebrate stolen elections and you don't— you celebrate stolen elections and you don't want freedom and you're against _ you don't want freedom and you're against the — you don't want freedom and you're against the second amendment riven first, then _ against the second amendment riven first, then leave. it is against the second amendment riven first, then leave.— first, then leave. it is one thing to be tired _ first, then leave. it is one thing to be tired of _ first, then leave. it is one thing to be tired of a _ first, then leave. it is one thing to be tired of a party, - first, then leave. it is one thing to be tired of a party, another i first, then leave. it is one thing l to be tired of a party, another to say they are evil and demonic. but i'm not saying that. could - say they are evil and demonic. but i'm not saying that. could this - say they are evil and demonic. but i'm not saying that. could this not| i'm not saying that. could this not be a way of _ i'm not saying that. could this not be a way of inciting _ i'm not saying that. could this not be a way of inciting to _ i'm not saying that. could this not be a way of inciting to violence, i be a way of inciting to violence, those people who listen to you either in your church or online? they might take it a step further, if this is evil, go after it. people have been saying that for years, if you followjesus, that means you will nick a weapon and go to the church and run people down. you are calling fellow americans evil and putting it in the context of an apocalyptic battle between good and evil. , ., apocalyptic battle between good and evil. _, ., i, . evil. there is an apocalyptic battle. that — evil. there is an apocalyptic battle. that is _ evil. there is an apocalyptic battle. that is the - evil. there is an apocalyptic battle. that is the kind - evil. there is an apocalyptic battle. that is the kind of l evil. there is an apocalyptic- battle. that is the kind of language that could be _ battle. that is the kind of language that could be used _ battle. that is the kind of language that could be used to _ battle. that is the kind of language that could be used to incite - that could be used to incite violence against such that could be used to incite violence against such people. could be a desire to _ violence against such people. could be a desire to derry _ violence against such people. could be a desire to derry -- _ violence against such people. could be a desire to derry -- my - violence against such people. could be a desire to derry -- my very - be a desire to derry —— my very ditferent— be a desire to derry —— my very different things. are not inciting violence. — different things. are not inciting violence, and preaching the bible. he is— violence, and preaching the bible. he is now— violence, and preaching the bible. he is now preaching the bible with a growing emphasis on deliverance from demons. there is not the political rhetoric tonight. you can see that greg locke definitely knows how to draw a crowd. it is emotional, powerful, dramatic. he knows how to develop a following. after the service, people gathered at the front seeking prayer to be freed from their demons. this kind of mass deliverance service is tapping into an old tradition of pentecostal revival in the united states. it breaks through into new ways when people are hungry for the experience of a living and mighty god. for those here, the spirit of god was moving. but how is this mix of charismatic evangelism, right—wing politics and trumper�*s and playing out in the mid—term elections? i out in the mid—term elections? i think we are seeing a test run of some of this rhetoric in the midterms and i think it is dipping their toe in the water to see how this plays in the campaign trail with a rev up to 2024. {line this plays in the campaign trail with a rev up to 2024.- this plays in the campaign trail with a rev up to 2024. one of the best examples — with a rev up to 2024. one of the best examples of _ with a rev up to 2024. one of the best examples of a _ with a rev up to 2024. one of the best examples of a candidate - with a rev up to 2024. one of the . best examples of a candidate backed by this new religious right is the republican contender for pennsylvania governor, doug mystery honour. a former military man campaigning as a christian warrior, framing the selection is spiritual warfare. �* , framing the selection is spiritual warfare. , _ warfare. don't be bonded by those lies of the enemy. _ warfare. don't be bonded by those lies of the enemy. we _ warfare. don't be bonded by those lies of the enemy. we stand - warfare. don't be bonded by those lies of the enemy. we stand at - warfare. don't be bonded by those lies of the enemy. we stand at a l lies of the enemy. we stand at a crossroads right now in pennsylvania and this is our time, we are taking our country back and it starts right here. i our country back and it starts right here. ., _ ., ., ., here. i went to pennsylvania to find out what voters _ here. i went to pennsylvania to find out what voters were _ here. i went to pennsylvania to find out what voters were thinking, - out what voters were thinking, travelling deep into amish country. i had metjeff and janice at a campaign event, and theirfriends were visiting from out of state. i’m were visiting from out of state. i'm rroin to were visiting from out of state. i'm going to be — were visiting from out of state. i'm going to be voting conservative, not necessarily— going to be voting conservative, not necessarily republican. i look at lnoth— necessarily republican. i look at both sides. but most of what i hear from _ both sides. but most of what i hear from the _ both sides. but most of what i hear from the democratic side is not something i align with.- from the democratic side is not something i align with. what about mastriano? l _ something i align with. what about mastriano? i am _ something i align with. what about mastriano? i am well— something i align with. what about mastriano? i am well behind - something i align with. what about mastriano? i am well behind him. l something i align with. what about i mastriano? i am well behind him. to believe that — mastriano? i am well behind him. to believe that mastriano _ mastriano? i am well behind him. to believe that mastriano has _ mastriano? i am well behind him. to believe that mastriano has been - believe that mastriano has been called by god?— believe that mastriano has been - called by god?_ what called by god? yes, absolutely. what ou think called by god? yes, absolutely. what you think god — called by god? yes, absolutely. what you think god has _ called by god? yes, absolutely. what you think god has called _ called by god? yes, absolutely. what you think god has called them - called by god? yes, absolutely. what you think god has called them to - called by god? yes, absolutely. what you think god has called them to do? j you think god has called them to do? to get involved politically. iii you to get involved politically. if you read the stories _ to get involved politically. if you read the stories in _ to get involved politically. if you read the stories in the _ to get involved politically. if you read the stories in the bible, - to get involved politically. if you read the stories in the bible, he| read the stories in the bible, he uses _ read the stories in the bible, he uses people _ read the stories in the bible, he uses people to _ read the stories in the bible, he uses people to move _ read the stories in the bible, he uses people to move on- read the stories in the bible, he uses people to move on to - read the stories in the bible, he uses people to move on to do . read the stories in the bible, he - uses people to move on to do things in god's_ uses people to move on to do things in god's will— uses people to move on to do things in god's will and _ uses people to move on to do things in god's will and god _ uses people to move on to do things in god's will and god is _ uses people to move on to do things in god's will and god is calling - uses people to move on to do things in god's will and god is calling for. in god's will and god is calling for many— in god's will and god is calling for many people _ in god's will and god is calling for many people to _ in god's will and god is calling for many people to take _ in god's will and god is calling for many people to take back - in god's will and god is calling for many people to take back this - in god's will and god is calling for. many people to take back this world. are they— many people to take back this world. are they going — many people to take back this world. are they going to _ many people to take back this world. are they going to take _ many people to take back this world. are they going to take back- many people to take back this world. are they going to take back america i are they going to take back america now? he are they going to take back america now? . , are they going to take back america now? ., , , ., , �* , now? he did appoint trump. but this is rroin to now? he did appoint trump. but this is going to be — now? he did appoint trump. but this is going to be long-term. _ now? he did appoint trump. but this is going to be long-term. it's - now? he did appoint trump. but this is going to be long-term. it's going l is going to be long—term. it's going to take _ is going to be long—term. it's going to take a _ is going to be long—term. it's going to take a while to get this country back the — to take a while to get this country back the way it was. it took 30 or 40 years— back the way it was. it took 30 or 40 years to — back the way it was. it took 30 or 40 years to turn it around. but i think— 40 years to turn it around. but i think it — 40 years to turn it around. but i think it may— 40 years to turn it around. but i think it may take 20,24. 40 years to turn it around. but i think it may take 20, 24. 22 will be a bigm _ think it may take 20, 24. 22 will be a bigm it _ think it may take 20, 24. 22 will be a bigm it will— think it may take 20, 24. 22 will be a big... it will definitely set the pace _ a big... it will definitely set the pace on — a big... it will definitely set the pace on what's going to happen. but i pace on what's going to happen. but ithink— pace on what's going to happen. but i think god _ pace on what's going to happen. but i think god is going to come down and he's _ i think god is going to come down and he's going to make things change — and he's going to make things chance. �* , ., and he's going to make things chance. . i. ., ., ,, change. and you have taken the country back. — change. and you have taken the country back, what _ change. and you have taken the country back, what will- change. and you have taken the country back, what will that - change. and you have taken the | country back, what will that look like? i country back, what will that look like? ~' country back, what will that look like? ~ �* , ., ., country back, what will that look like? ~ �*, ., ., like? i think it's going to look rood. like? i think it's going to look good- you — like? i think it's going to look good. you have _ like? i think it's going to look good. you have got _ like? i think it's going to look good. you have got back- like? i think it's going to look good. you have got back in i like? i think it's going to look. good. you have got back in the government, you have god back in the schools. _ government, you have god back in the schools. you _ government, you have god back in the schools, you have the ten commandments, think about living by the ten _ commandments, think about living by the ten commandments. none of our kids even— the ten commandments. none of our kids even know them. sifter the ten commandments. none of our kids even know them.— kids even know them. after we spoke they headed — kids even know them. after we spoke they headed to _ kids even know them. after we spoke they headed to an _ kids even know them. after we spoke they headed to an event _ kids even know them. after we spoke they headed to an event where - kids even know them. after we spoke they headed to an event where the i they headed to an event where the christian right is finding a new voice. ~ . ., , ., voice. where am i a christian nationalist _ voice. where am i a christian nationalist at _ voice. where am i a christian nationalist at in _ voice. where am i a christian nationalist at in this? - voice. where am i a christian nationalist at in this? thank. voice. where am i a christian - nationalist at in this? thank you! this is— nationalist at in this? thank you! this is the — nationalist at in this? thank you! this is the reawakened _ nationalist at in this? thank you! this is the reawakened tour, - this is the reawakened tour, travelling roadshow attracting tens of thousands of people as it crisscrosses the nation. you cannot se arate crisscrosses the nation. you cannot separate god _ crisscrosses the nation. you cannot separate god from _ crisscrosses the nation. you cannot separate god from politics. - crisscrosses the nation. you cannot separate god from politics. you - separate god from politics. you cannot take it out of our government. it cannot take it out of our government.— cannot take it out of our government. cannot take it out of our rovernment. , . , government. it is -- the attendees are anti-vaccination _ government. it is -- the attendees are anti-vaccination and _ government. it is -- the attendees l are anti-vaccination and anti-masker are anti—vaccination and anti—masker and they are invoking god to stop this deal. 0n the sidelines, hundreds of people queued to be baptised, by water and by the spirit. it feels like a church service. and it has felt like a church service several times a day but then again, it felt too a political rally, so it is both. i have never really seen such a mixture of religion and politics. top billing was shared by a handful of trump loyalists. the general who served two presidents ten convicted of lying to the fbi. the political operative convicted of lying to congress. collecting money for his legal fees. congress. collecting money for his legalfees. and congress. collecting money for his legal fees. and the congress. collecting money for his legalfees. and the man himself dialled in while his son was on stage. dialled in while his son was on stare. ~ . dialled in while his son was on stare. . ., ., dialled in while his son was on stare. ~ . ., ., , dialled in while his son was on stare. . ., ., ., , , stage. we are going to bring this country back _ stage. we are going to bring this country back because _ stage. we are going to bring this country back because our - stage. we are going to bring this| country back because our country stage. we are going to bring this - country back because our country has never been in such bad shape. it is never been in such bad shape. it is a carnival of— never been in such bad shape. it is a carnival of chaos. _ never been in such bad shape. it is a carnival of chaos. those who are preaching fraud and conspiracy is in christ, that's the power of the message. the mid—term election will be the first test of how this plays out at the polls. this new christian right is out of step with the direction of the country, fighting against changing moral values, framing that is a battle against evil. ~ . , framing that is a battle against evil. . . , , ., , evil. what it ends up doing is turnin: evil. what it ends up doing is turning political— evil. what it ends up doing is turning political opponents i evil. what it ends up doing is l turning political opponents into enemies. and that is a kind of threat to the whole democratic project. i threat to the whole democratic ro'ect. ., , , , threat to the whole democratic ro'ect. .,, , , ., , project. i hope it ends up on us findinr a project. i hope it ends up on us finding a way — project. i hope it ends up on us finding a way to _ project. i hope it ends up on us finding a way to have _ project. i hope it ends up on us finding a way to have our- project. i hope it ends up on us finding a way to have our own l finding a way to have our own regions — finding a way to have our own regions of— finding a way to have our own regions of the nation and living peacefully together. it is regions of the nation and living peacefully together.— peacefully together. it is a minority — peacefully together. it is a minority but _ peacefully together. it is a minority but backed - peacefully together. it is a minority but backed by - peacefully together. it is a - minority but backed by powerful politics and if republicans win big could be an outsides influence, pushing the party in the church further to the right. —— the party and the church. hello there. it's been very wet for some of us this weekend. this unsettled theme does continue into the start of the new week, with low pressure nearby, rain and gates followed by sunshine and blustery showers. but then by around mid—week, wednesday into thursday, high pressure starts to build in. it'll settle things down. it'll also turn very mild with our air source coming in from the south. but at the moment we've still got low pressure with us, quite a few isobars on the chart, so blustery showers, sunny spells through the afternoon and that theme continues into the evening and overnight with clear spells, blustery showers, even longer spells of rain pushing from south to north, and the winds picking up — gale force across the south west. southern areas seeing temperatures in double figures. we could see mid single digits across the north east of scotland. so for monday, then, it's an unsettled start, blustery showers, longer spells of rain spreading from the south to the north and the winds picking up, touching gale force across many southern and western coasts, in excess of 50 miles an hour, maybe up to around 60 miles an hour near coasts and over hills. but a blustery day for all areas, but mild for the time of year. the mid—teens for many. but it might not feel like that because of the strength of the wind and also all the showers around. then through monday night, a band of heavy rain and gates spreads across the country. so for tuesday, we're in the same theme of blustery showers and sunny spells. most of the showers again affecting southern and western areas. some of them will be heavy, some rumbles of thunder, the strongest of the winds around southern and western coasts cnce again. probably the greater chance of staying drier will be towards the north and the east. but again, very mild, 15 to 16 celsius in the south, low teens further north. some subtle changes into wednesday — high pressure beginning to build across the south west, pushing this area of low pressure northward. so i think the windiest, wettest weather will tend to be across the north and the west of scotland. further south, fewer showers around, one or two around, mind you, but a greater chance of staying dry with some sunshine. again, mild in the south, low teens across the north. and then as we move into thursday, that area of high pressure over the near continent builds in, pushes these weather systems out at bay, and we start to draw our air in from the azores and the subtropics. so it really will be very mild through thursday and friday with temperatures well above the seasonal norm. now, it's not going to be completely sunny and dry. there will be still a few showers in the northwest of the uk. quite a bit of cloud around, but noticeably mild. this is bbc news. i'm ben brown. the headlines at five. union leaders say nurses are likely to take their first ever national strike action before christmas. downing street says the prime minister believes "abusive" text messages sent by the cabinet minister gavin williamson were "unacceptable. 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