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Transcripts For BBCNEWS 100 Days 20170606



hello, i am katty kay in washington, christian fraser is in london. brits go to the polls in just over 2a hours and an election that was all about brexit has suddenly veered into security and policing in the wake of manchester and london. today third attacker was named as rachid redouane. reports in the italian press suggest he tried to travel to syria last year, but was stopped by italian police. uk officials say youssef zaghba was not on their watch list. authorities in the uk are reviewing their intelligence. so are we doing enough? one man who thinks authorities are going about it in the wrong way is nazir afzal. up until 10 days ago he was the chief executive of the association of police and crime commissioners. he was stopped from speaking after the manchester attack and so he resigned so he could have his say. he is in our salford studio. do you think muslim communities in your view are taking enough ownership of this problem? obviously they're doing as much as they can, but there is more they could do. that is what i have been trying to say. it is also an issue about the state, by that i mean local authorities and local government, are not doing. when it comes to the engagement, as you probably know there is a deradicalisation programme, where people are referred when they become aware of issues about a person and that is being undermined and often deliberately by people. as a result people are being deterred from reporting or signposting people for support and assistance. there is an issue around community leadership, this is where the problem lies with the state, the state tends to talk to the same people and expect a different result and the communities, particularly the muslim community is very young, the muslim community is very young, the majority is under 25, female and from low income backgrounds, all the leaders the government want to talk to are male, middle class and over 40 to are male, middle class and over a0 or50. so to are male, middle class and over a0 or 50. so they have no real understanding of what is going on in muslim youth or teenagers or young people and yet they are the ones who are allegedly coming up with solutions to help the government. the problems are complicated and police and authorities have to triage, because so many people are suspects, but talk about the solutions, you have ideas about who authorities should be talking to in communities, they always say they're talking to community leader, who could they talk to? the best work thatis could they talk to? the best work that is happening in the united kingdom is muslim women's groups and muslim women generally. the groups operate with very little funding and they have access to families and are engaged in communities and not only working on this, but other issues. when they come across a young man or woman who might be being radicalised or questioning their identity, they sit down and work with that person for nothing and ensure the person has support. to my mind, as a doctor i know who works as a gp and in the evening he will spend time working with young girls, maybing them understand what they can —— making them understand what they can achieve in this country. that work is happening under the radar and being done for nothing. but we are expending millions on so—called community leaders who are very good at talking the talk and i have spent many afternoons wasted sit around ta bles many afternoons wasted sit around tables with them and at the end we feel very much better, but the point is the solutions are not there. feel very much better, but the point is the solutions are not therem you tell your children that it is haram to wear skirts or wrong to go to concerts or to stand with women in mosques, should we be surprised that young people adopt some of these more mill ta nts that young people adopt some of these more mill tants attitudes. —— militant attitudes. most of this information is not coming from pa rents, information is not coming from parents, but from peers or online. but yes the whole of this, it is not just one issue, i remember one pa rent after just one issue, i remember one parent after three children disappeared to syria, said he had done his duty and made sure his daughter didn't go out clubbing, didn't go partying, studied and she was up stairs. he had no sense of the fact she was in more danger online than if she had been doing the other things. there is a conversation that has to be happening. that isn't happening. it is not as challenging as it could be around the rights of the female. i'm in favour of a rights—based society, rather than a multicultural society. why weren't you allowed to speak out. do you think there is self—sensor ship going on or political correctness. if you ask the police commissioner, the board who stopped me speaking, i live in manchester, the atrocity was very close to hand, i drop my son there all the time. it is a very personal thing to me. a lot of people were saying to me, i prosecuted terrorism cases and i have ex—— experience of terrorism. people said, we don't wa nt terrorism. people said, we don't want you to say anything, they were justify that on the basis we are in an election campaign and what i would say might be miscontrued party politically. but nothing i'm saying is party political. but it is about the bigger picture of protecting our society and communities and for whatever reasons they were ru' —— relu cta nt to whatever reasons they were ru' —— reluctant to let me speak and i walked out of day. the conversations we are now having reflect what needs to be had. thank you veryjoining us. to be had. thank you veryjoining us. having walked out the door, you walked into your studio. we are glad you did. french police have shot and injured a man outside the cathedral of notre dame, after he attacked police using a hammer. the french prosecutor's office says it is being treated as a terrorist incident. the area around the cathedral has been cleared of tourists and sealed off. french media reports say the attacker was injured in the chest. translation: a person came up behind a policeman armed with a hammer and started hitting him. another policeman immediately reacted and shot at him. the policeman is recovering in hospital and the aggressor is injured. the incident is being looked into by a prosecutor, as while the aggressor was attacking the policeman, he said, "this is for syria. " interesting, i was watching the us network respond to this and there is focus on europe at the moment with the terror attacks in the uk and the point i was making on twitter, i was surprised how much attention that incident in paris and i'm not belittling it, but it happens where the police are targeted by these people, i was surprised how much attention was on that and how little on the shooting of five people at a factory in florida. yes, that was a disgruntled worker and there was almost no coverage and almost no coverage of the fact that 150 people we re coverage of the fact that 150 people were kimmed in a bomb —— killed in a bombing in kabul. it does seem to be, we don't know if it is terror related, but these incidents, it is worth asking in the media how much attention we should give these stories. that story has been wrapped up stories. that story has been wrapped up and it is being investigated. i think we can draw a line under that one. more stories have been emerging of people in london bridge on the night of the attacks. many people tried to fight off the attackers, as they worked their way through borough market. our special correspondent, lucy manning has been hearing some of their stories. well scratches to the arms and hands. stabbed in the side of me stomach and chest. i have got slashes on me neck. head. and ear hole. roy larner, football fan, a man who took on the the terrorists with shouts of, "i'm millwall!" i don't know why i did it, but i went bleep back. you're not getting in here. millwall. he had an arsenal top on. and i was stopping them getting into the restaurant to stop them attacking the children and families in there. it happened about 20 seconds. as i got him out the black and blue the police were firing on him straightaway. so... the police stopping him getting, hurting any more people and from being shot around me. i feel quite bad myself doing what i did. spaniard, ignacio echeverria, also fought the three attackers with his skateboard. he is still missing. shocking, you didn't know what to do. his friend, will, was with him. spaniard, ignacio echeverria, also fought the three attackers with his skateboard. he is still missing. shocking, you didn't know what to do. his friend, will, was with him. he didn't want to be fully identified. he didn't even think of anything, he just jumped there with the skateboard and started to fight with them. he was hitting the terrorist with the skateboard. several times like that. then the next thing i remember i was trying to approach the group, but i realised they were having massive knives and one of them stabbed my friend. ignacio is a hero. he is a cracking man. i saw the policeman running to tackle them. but as soon as he got, as soon as he got to the group, he got knocked. if the policeman in that moment had a gun, everything would be solved. nobody... would have been injured. ignacio's family say they're in pain. they're appealing to british and spanish authorities for information. i'm with geoff ho and this guy's a real hero. you know why? geoff ho with friends sitting up in his hospital bed. the stab wound on his throat still visible. the journalist who used his martial arts skills to tackle the terrorists chatting about boxing. i'm confident he is going to do a lot better than he did no in no i, but rj ward has the skills and he is going to prevail. in a statement, mr ho described how he took on the the attackers. terrible injuries for many, the scars from fighting back. lucy manning bbc news. we remember the victims and the people who behaved so bravely. brits go to the polls in just over 2a hours and an election that was all about brexit has suddenly veered into security and policing in the wake of manchester and london. but on thursday the decision that is made by the british voters will have a huge impact on britain's future relationship with europe. will theresa may get the mandate she wants? or will labour take enough seats to deny her the thumping majority she's demanded. today there has been a frenetic pace to the campaigning. jeremy corbyn has been in london and shropshire and tonight he's in ladywood in birmingham, a safe labour seat. the prime minister has been in lancashire, north wales and in the past few minutes she has arrived, closer to home, in slough. our political correspondent ben wright has been following the prime minister on the campaign trail today hejoins us now from slough. slough has a labour majority. not a seat you would expect theresa may to be targeting? true. but this is a campaign that is quietly very confident. there has been a closing in the polls in the last couple of weeks, it feels and probably is a tighter race than it was six weeks ago when theresa may surprised the uk and called the snap general election. but i feel within the tory camp they're sure this is going to be all right for them and they're going to be returned with a bigger majority. how big is the question. but last night i was up in a city called bradford, a constituency bradford south, that the conservative party last won in 1918. but a century later, theresa may thinks she could take it and a big reason is that even though there is a labour majority of 6,500 there was a labour majority of 6,500 there was a very large vote for brexit, for leaving the eu. and a partly called ukip leaving the eu. and a partly called uupdm leaving the eu. and a partly called ukip did well in 2015 and the conservative are confident in other seats they can scoop up a lot of the ukip votes, because brexit is going to happen. i know i have ukip votes, because brexit is going to happen. i knowl have asked ukip votes, because brexit is going to happen. i know i have asked you that a and you won't tell me how many seats you needs or the it to be a real victory. she is playing offence and labour seem to be playing defence, jeremy corbyn in safe labour seats today, what are they looking, is it internal numbers they looking, is it internal numbers they have or different polls from what we are seeing, something is giving them that confidence. all parties do their own private polling, i think private polling in labour when i last checked with them looked dire tatlower end of their —— at the lower end of their predictions and the conservatives remain confident, although the national swing may not look fantastic that, individual seats will deliver the majority they're looking for and that made this gamble worthwhile. your question remainsa pertinent gamble worthwhile. your question remains a pertinent one and it is being asked. there is a big difference between her winning by 20 and winning by 90. there is a big difference for her personally and what it gives her going into the brexit negotiations in a few days. she hasjust brexit negotiations in a few days. she has just appeared brexit negotiations in a few days. she hasjust appeared behind me. between 20 and 90, you have given yourself a lot of latitude. that is quite a sweep stake. what is going on, in these last couple of days, why is the tory party in offence and labour on defence. offence and defence, you have been in washington too long, they're on attack mode. i'm playing american football. they're targeting labour seats in the north—west and the north in places like leeds and manchester and perhaps in the north east which has been traditional labour heartland. in the last election, they were not expected to get a majority. they got a majority of 12. that was a big surprise. now at the start of the election they were a long way ahead in the polls and you could understand why the prime minister called the election. but she was probably thinking at about probably up probably thinking at about probably up around 80 to a hundred majority. that is the concern, will she have that majority to limit the role of some of the more hardline backbenchers in her party. for labour, they're focussing on safe seats and some of the feeling in westminster is they're trying to increase the share of the vote and jeremy corbyn in particular, because he does want to be forced to resign, rather than going after a hundred seats from the conservative to try and win. that is the feeling. we will get an idea on friday whether or not he has been successful. will get an idea on friday whether or not he has been successfulm will be interesting. we will have to sthee. some of the labour labour critics looking at how much of a margin he gets with some scepticism. i will get you a sweep stake on how many seats she will get in private. the white house has been really unhappy about leaks ever since trump took office. now they've cracked down with their first arrest of a suspected leaker. a 25—year—old woman who worked as a contractor for the national security agency. the information reality winner has admitted leaking is that it suggests russia was trying to interfere with the actual voting procedure — the machines and the software, not just the campaign. you might remember president obama had expressed concerns that the poll itself was a target for the hackers. ms winner was arrested on saturday. we are joined by new york times reporter adam goldman. we wa nt we want to talk about the content of what was leaked and the white house's reaction. the content, how critical is the information that reality winner put out? you know, i don't think it necessarily is a game—changer in terms of information. it provided important contacts and we know the russians continue to hack and interfere with the election after president obama had warned russia to stop. but it was useful. there is no surprise is there that this white house would have as soon as it had the opportunity to find somebody leaking information to the press arrest them and after all president obama prosecuted leakers as well? sure, president obama prosecuted twice the number who had ever been prosecuted in its totality before him. so you know, it is not a surprise that the justice department under the leadership ofjeff sessions and ross rosenstein will go after leake rs leadership ofjeff sessions and ross rosenstein will go after leakers and the president has made it clear it isa the president has made it clear it is a priority. the question is how farand is a priority. the question is how far and how many do they do? there is no indication that they tilted the election towards trump, but there is evidence they tried if you believe this leak. but would the administration have told us the nsa had proof of these russian attempts to hack had she not leaked the information? well, i mean, let's not for get the former director of intelligence, who was in charge of the department of homeland security put out a statement suggesting russian interference and there was a report in january that russian interference and there was a report injanuary that blamed the russians for interfering in the election. so you know, what she put out doesn't on a 20,000 foot level change our understanding of what the russians did. thank you very much. we get some good guests in london and that is great. sometimes i feel and that is great. sometimes i feel a bit left out. i'm not part of washington club and i don't have the access to the high fliers. so you what i have done? i have invited ron christie here to london. you have lured him away. ron, you traitor! i'm part of washington fraternity. he has been to rome and to now he is in london and is right here in the studio. good the see you. he'll come back to me. don't worry. you're out of it. what do you think about this leak? is there any moral ambiguity to this? no, having top security clearance there is no excuse for releasing materials, particularly when you're a contractor, you take a special oath not to disclose information and the fact she did and sent it to the mails, she is in trouble. ron, i insist on being part of conversation. you have noticed the president has been tweeting and today put himself in the the row between arab nations and qatar. why is the president wading into something that is incredibly diplomatically sensitive and you have 11,000 us military personnel posted to qatar, is this sensible? no, it is baffling to me. given the fa ct no, it is baffling to me. given the fact that he likes to conduct business via twitter as we always talk about, but to do something of this magnitude and don't forget, the united states has its largest military presence in qatar. and we have the fifth fleet which has the american navy in bahrain, one country over. and for him to take these sort of steps via twitter to isolate the united states is foolish. it is not smart. not wise and now i don't understand how this white house will pull itself out of this. the thing is, we had a load of people yesterday who were close to the president saying you have got to ignore what the president is saying on social media. it is not policy. have a look at what the wall street journal put its editorial today. which is the point we have made cou ntless which is the point we have made countless times on this programme. no yes about it. if is were working in the white house and i'm not going anywhere, i'm staying here, but if you were an aide, you to worry every time the boss picks up his hand—held device that could up end the policies. this is supposed to be about infrastructure. yes but we are talking about twitter. do you detect a difference this week, it seems the tone of the tweets since the weekend and the london bombings, the frequency of them, has stepped up. it smacks of a real sense of grievance in the white house in the office of the president. no question, having been here on saturday and sunday when the events took place and see my president sending out those tweets, i thought it was tone deaf at best and my friends in the administration threw theirarms up and friends in the administration threw their arms up and there was an article saying the president has a difficult time getting legal counsel and people to represent him not knowing what the president may say or tweet. it comes down to the idea of... ina or tweet. it comes down to the idea of... in a way his paranoia about the popular vote. he is trying to justify why he is there. he keeping sending out these tweet, he started again on the fake media. it comes to his own insecurities. what else can you say? if my wife was the only one there for my inauguration, i would be happy, iwouldn't there for my inauguration, i would be happy, i wouldn't look at any other numbers. we know who is in charge and it is not me. christian andi charge and it is not me. christian and i would turn up. you know where the love is by the way. i'm. .. just come back to me. i'm coming back on thursday. ron good to have you. you're watching 100 days on bbc news. we have been battered and bruised after today's weather. strong winds and heavy rain. here is the good news, tomorrow, it is looking a lot better. but on those winds, in some areas they were gusting at over 60mph. not far off 50 even in london. that is very windy. but the rain will continue to fall tonight and in eastern parts of scotland. by the time this rain clears away, some time tomorrow, we perhaps will have seen even time tomorrow, we perhaps will have seen even 100 millimetres of rain in some spots. so very wet. you can see many southern and eastern areas clearer skies by wednesday morning. tonight's lows of around 10 degrees. so the low pressure is a real slow mover. in fact there is another one on the way. but we are in between systems on wednesday morning. so across many southern parts of the uk we are waking up to a fine day. still a bit of a breeze around the coasts and still windy close to that north sea coast. perhaps not gale force winds, but blustery. but lots of sunshine and fresh weather. not eastern scotland. and in the north. still heavy rain and windy. it will ta ke still heavy rain and windy. it will take time for this weather to clear away and blow itself out. but that lois a very slow—moving one and ta kes lois a very slow—moving one and takes time for the weather to improve. while many of us are enjoying a fine afternoon and you can see how much bright weather there is, there is the next system coming in and that will bring some at least light rain in the afternoon and tomorrow evening some of the rain will splash across mostly the southern two thirds of uk. looks like scotland gets away with it on thursday. so heavy rain comes into maybe parts of wales, northern england and it could be stuck around here on thursday. could be wet further south it could be the rain is lighter and northern scotland may stay dry. beyond that, on friday, still some showers and another window of better weather before... this is saturday. that arrives. that is it for me. hello and welcome to the election wrap, your guide to all the election news of the day. now put down the game console, and listen up. your country needs you. yes you, dear young voters, aged 18 to 25. you could be key to who wins the election. well tonight the seven main parties face questions from a youthful newsbeat audience, in manchester, in the final tv debate of the campaign. we'll be in bradford west, one of the youngest constituencies in the country, to find out the issues that matter to the under 25s, dear oh dear, the most apathetic group of voters in the country. with crucial brexit talks due to startjust 11 days after the election, it's claimed the debate surrounding leaving the eu has hardly figured in the campaign. we'll have the view from brussels on our election. and we should do more of this — bring together in peace and harmony voices usually hoarse from shouting at each other. gina miller, the woman who took the government to court over article 50 and won, talks brexit, with the former ukip politician godfrey bloom. can't wait. ido i do not understand the inflexible way we're going towards negotiations. why notjust leave, why negotiate.

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