juan reported technical fault believed to be battery related before it went missing there's been no contact with the crew since wednesday there are forty four people on board those are the headlines on al-jazeera but do stay with us and sad story is coming up next thank you for watching. who's in charge of zimbabwe and the embattled president robert mugabe is clinging to power and faces impeachment everyone but him seems to agree his time is so what's next for zimbabweans desperate for change this is inside story. hello there and welcome to the program i'm laura zimbabwe's president robert mugabe has ignored a deadline to resign his posse had told him he must step down or be impeached now it says that process will begin the parties accusing mugabe of being responsible for political instability and an unprecedented economic tailspin and that frustration is spilling on to the streets with hundreds of students out protesting demanding mugabe get out of office a powerful war veterans association is also demanding mugabe step down and threatening high court action to have him removed. we want the war population to send up on our it in giving an unmistakable message that we want to see mugabe is back the country has to start on a new bridge is the rule is the desires of us but the reality of the last fifteen years no country has been reduced to the level of deeply dition which is what with going through with the only country which is going to war it is totally or believe just the damage which has been doing to the lives in mobile who played with the we with indulging this. in the dirty way that's what has been his business in parliament nothing else the crisis started earlier this month when mugabe fired vice president emerson milan ghagra putting his wife grace in prime position to take over as president when god was dismissal was the last straw for the army chief who was his long time ally the military seized power wednesday surrounding government buildings and putting the gobby under house arrest that led to extraordinary scenes in harare on saturday hundreds of thousands of them bob when's flooded the streets to celebrate the apparent end of his thirty seven year grip on power on sunday the rulings on m.p.'s dismissed mugabe as party leader and expelled his wife grace but on gagra was promoted to president of the party i was told he must step down or be impeached embattled leader was widely expected to resign hours later during a live t.v. address instead he provoked anger and disbelief flanked by army generals who vowed to stay on until zanu p.f. party congress next month the congress if you. live a few weeks from now preside over its dresses which must not be pre-positioned by any acts calculated to undermine it or to compromise the outcome in the eyes of the public. well let's bring in our discussion panel now and joining us from harare bright matonga a former government spokesman and deputy information minister under president mugabe and from new york a professor of law and constitutional expert at cornell north school welcome both of you thank you very much for joining us here on inside story bright matonga you are a former spokesman for president robert mugabe can you give us some insight into what's going through his mind at this point in time he didn't resign in that speech on sunday took many people by surprise what happened. is a must of the art of politics. he wants to be in control of a lot of things but i suppose if you have to be president that's how it has to be but the issue now is. power for thirty years. in power for ninety three now next year when we have elections you can ninety four so you have if a few to him. by the time that term finishes. he'll be ninety nine excuse me that's what people are saying what is it that he wants to to prove is. this no one can. live. to be a president so. look it's not a question of what goes into his mind but again it's about you want to control everything he thinks in his mind because he's been so much in control before independence after independence that's more than forty something years so that wasn't that is lifestyle so i think is to find it very difficult to comprehend beyond that but the people of zimbabwe look i think thank you mr mugabe you've done a lot of good things you've done a lot of bad things who doesn't so it's time to hand over the button so again nieces know i'll be there but bright who is supporting him i mean who is that telling him encouraging him to stay the course. right. right now it's very difficult to because we don't know who it is ouse. we don't know we. advise him but i think he comes to market loss come on top all the time yes to fight all the time but i think now things are different people are so special last night people expected more we expected him to do the right thing to say guys i've had you a video loud and clear i think i need to take a break and to give someone you know you know the opportunity to take zimbabwe forward you know we don't even have our own. public debt is forty percent of g.d.p. we don't you know we people are suffering in this today and again much poverty what this does is families young girls are forced to go into person to get money for their level would so things are getting bad after now who is going to come in division is about which is. a very unstable economy so people just hold back in these five more years of suffering and. we think you're taking us right then we want to prove to you that you can do all the kinds of the ransom and people tomorrow coming back again in their millions. i think you better move out in the parliament. about ten or so senior party members has been working with the idea what is going to come in and a lot more to you before we go over to there in new york just one more because you're talking about the people having had enough and coming out onto the street but it wasn't the people who finally moved to remove mugabe it was the army the people have put up with a decade of economic stagnation and human rights abuses so why did the army choose now to move. look the me noticed that there was a vacuum the police was in so is the services they were not working in the for the best interest of the country so they spoke to him they asked him to intervene he didn't listen to them they made a public announcement and when the chief of the army said that he also wanted to arrest him and fame unfortunately that couldn't happen. commander you know we respect you we've been with you in this trenches so high time you you have to listen to us there's no police force but the funny thing is now the interesting thing at the moment is you can't see any policemen along the streets in this sort of peaceful nor looting no crimes you know recorded and we were just happy if people saw united so i think the army said we custody and of of the security of this country it's better for you to do the right thing control your people if you can and then we have to tech the role of the police that's why the word vigilance today approached the high court to say they support the actions of the army so that they feel that give that has been left by the by the political and otherwise there's going to be. people who write lessoning and moon are now going to want to make a way that the army is going about removing mugabe that very keen to say this is not very keen not to have any bloodshed but is it constitutional what's happening in zimbabwe. i think that the army has read them or the other people rightly. so but when people mean the problem over mugabe has been there for quite some time and things were deteriorating and i think what you see the army trying to do is of course to try to use course constitutional ways rather than go into a straight forward corps and i think this is really in order to promote stability so that you know institutions remain in place and i think what has happened is that for various reasons that have been a number of dead by many people is about where the no longer able to breathe under the regime now so i think that the to me what. to do now is to really do to save as to the country for him to step down so that there can be a new beginning this is an opportunity to go forward and resolve the country's problems clearly move as a as yesterday's speech where he didn't step down there's not much hope that he is now going to end zanu p.f. is x. policy now is talking about impeachment proceedings beginning on tuesday just give us an idea of what needs to happen to get those proceedings underway i think the resignation that would have been the easiest way out. and this is provided for and to go into six of the constitution so he would have resigned and that would have been much much easier i think the impeachment process is the party said just. the next process that can go on the difficult way that is that there is a process to it in that you have to look at it and got to cause one to six one to seven to ninety nine and you find then that there would have fests to table motion before a joint sitting. over senate and the assembly and then get. a majority of the members are supporting the. motion and after that deliver top point to a committee that would have to look into the. impeachment. and as specified grounds on which he has to be no you can impeach him and then you would have the committee of nine i think that's what he's provided for reporting. back. to the joint sitting and then you would need a two thirds. majority to remove him ok and i think there's also a complication and i'm just i'm just going to jump and say let's just listen to i'm going to get some i am happy and pleased to be able to bring in also from harare an estimate saying gays a political commentator and director of the zimbabwe media center and us we're just talking this hearing from mena the process that needs to happen to get impeachment proceedings underway against robert mugabe on what grounds do you think mugabe could be impeached all of the usual. issues. being discussed it with the design of the or so of course the what they are saying is that the mugabe should be peace because he he sat in the executive for thirty two years wife saying that yes roasts a couple city to make good decisions and years instead to be kept up. specially use wife and the other people around the years wife from a tanga vice president went on god well let's take a look at him he's been named as the new policy leda he is known as the crocodile the in zimbabwe what do we know about him. he is you was sentenced to death when you was eight years old for carrying out good activities the only thing that spurred him death was because he was under age then from there or i mean he took part in the liberation struggle. then from one thousand nine hundred eighty seven he was a prison assistant in good a good sort of speak he's a lawyer. of securities been minister of defense has been minister of justice he's been. head of parliament. and is now the. president so he's got a vast experience in terms of money meant finance finance. law all those things so i think at the moment. people we're looking forward to. to him taking over. next presidency people are looking for like you say to him thanking average that's. not right but worries that he's just going to bring them more of the same that mugabe did. or sometimes bitter deal would been a tickle you know but i think for my job it was a bubble is not a question of whether it's emerson or whatever they just want to see a different president. you know that's what people are looking forward to i know you as my other colleague of impeachment the ordinary men doesn't understand the process is the order of men for example now you know that president was fired get into his mind this impeachment is the footing that caused ordinary men was the m.p.'s there voted to impeach people don't care about the process the process is all follow was you know you somewhere out this is the mood on this not my views but it's what i've picked up from from the street they say ok we don't understand this legal jargon but what we know is that impeachment is you know you have to go on a minor is that is that true or might bright be during the zimbabwean people is like to serve as the saying they don't care about the processes and the intricacies of impeachment well i think that you know the processes you know would have to be followed if you're dr wade. call. and i think that's the issue at hand and i think also as the you know the process of removing more gary begins they also have to remember that you also have i think you have to jointly start the process of removing the vice president because if you look at the constitution or find that when the president is removed the vice president will be acting so i think that you have to deal with both in terms of war and in the constitution is provided for that you can proceed against the president and you can also impeach the vice president. just picking up mina says that if you impeach the president you also have to impeach the vice president does that mean that we're not going to see what i'm guy coming up to the president. having to the people of zimbabwe right now. so tired and they are blaming everything on the garbage that is in terms of the economy cut jobs and they would want to see someone else that the that is the truth on the surface but when you go deep down the people. are saying no to a system the tea in both very system they are saying no to a system that the abuses human rights so that's what the people are looking at deep down so it is the end of the day we have a comes must to deal with the economy got to she must make sure that the economy is mend it must make sure that the people are able to work at least two or something must be like you other people get. which is they work for you right now people are worried that in order that the cars in the bank so that's what people want there wouldn't mind the number of the person there wouldn't mind whew the person is coming from what do they want is someone who can at least better their lives this was going on that situation of the people is but so what is wanted is someone who is coming with us that is a reform in terms of the economic front and form also in terms of the political front in terms of human rights so if that is what they want they can then forgive when god weighs alleged past his past ways leslie involved in a crackdown on opposition and independents he is where more than ten thousand people were killed they can forgive that can they if he can bring about the economic reforms that they want. yeah the people are willing to forget that badly this is not to say that those issues may totally be buried just by the stroke of change of a leader there will be a need for process is done he will use the nation because there are people as we speak you. wouldn't even know their relatives who don't know their father those who don't know their mother who don't live birth certificates so i think the kind of a truth commission will probably be needed if this is why civil society yes been talking of a nation now peace and reconciliation commission we write the song just picking up there and what ana said just before we lost contact with him he said that there needs to be a truth commission i'm talking further down the line there are way immediately he said there needs to be reforms that need to be economic reforms in zimbabwe how quickly can they be put in place this is a process that has to be taken there's a lot of anger on the ground. is people can't afford the basic amenities electricity. you know. you know the basic things so it's very difficult so we have a it's going to be the next president has got a lot to do it's a process that will take some time and it's it has to be an inclusive process i don't think rushing to this is a might this is our my personal view i don't think rushing to have elections will solve things no definitely not we need a healing process that needs to be done doesn't the way but i'll just jump in there and then if you're talking about a healing process does this open the way for a unity government for the opposition to come back in to sit in parliament you know we need if there has to be a government i think it is prudent to involve everybody because the whole thing has been a mess. unfortunately at the moment there was very strong in which you live a roof was an appeal of to win again. scale but i don't know who after this that is going to happen but he or she is going to take over they have to include everybody they have to you know zimbabwe is becoming like north korea you know no one wants to come to suburban. so very bad tag you need investment you need if you invest in zimbabwe or in a country you want to be sure that you know the return on investment you can really put it your dividends in zimbabwe is not clear because there is. no money. for exert you want you can get it but for some reason if you go in the streets you can find your u s dollars and that's not the way to run an economy is only the few privileged who are accessing. the for the foreign currency sold invest in such an environment where people say you know you the people don't trust you and we don't trust you enough to trust you your neighbors don't trust you anymore. so catch twenty two asian twenty two situation. big miss put it that way when we do you mean that you are in a basement bob ways and if they can mess pots and there is an opening now for a sense of optimism yes things can be put right and yes i would agree that. i would agree that you know the question is about ways very difficult it was about weapons and i think that this is really a big lesson in terms of african states that you cannot have a monarchy style kind of government that you cannot you have to have read your. inferences or. this would not have happened if in fact mugabe did not stay in power for all these years and also agree that going forward of course it would be necessary to look at the past in terms of trying to deal with the. issues that. are down whether your is a member of for truth commission or. does something else or prosecutions that is up to it is involved ones to decide but they have to deal with the past and then after that i think they have to focus on creating institutions that are going to ensure that in fact human rights are respected and that that is participation by or in governance and that's when of course you begin to or. to come out we did the correct but he says that the my my colleagues are missing him and that are necessary to grow your. economy and it's just got a minute left last word to you mugabe is still commands a level of respect in zimbabwe doesn't his father of the nation do you think it's legacy is going to be more hero or villain. i think. yes yes yes done a lot for this country we cannot do wish you my way just like that you contributed a lot to live but as you know this country you did some work i think is soon after independence you know the source accord on the guy gender in terms of education and you know the building of the cleaning the building of schools and if you look at the zimbabwe to do obviously we are now losing out but we had a very good believe that god did something. with a notion but to some while i've been good to the turn of the ninety's there were problems these problems moved on to kind of dent you guys so you did something deserves to be recognized. they found inside that one of the founding fathers was a bob despite his mistakes so what is important to draw when looking at that. is that he should be symbolised down bore down aggressively so that people will not be in a flipped so ok we're going to have to leave it as we're going to have a delay jump in that we're going to be on topic we will be revisiting an interesting times indeed for zimbabwe thank you very much all of you for joining us bright matonga. and ernest. and thank you to very much for watching you can see the program again any time by missing our website is al-jazeera dot com and further discussion to go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com for slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter our handle is at a.j. inside story from me norah kyle and the whole team here by. witness documentaries that open your eyes at this time on al-jazeera. december on al-jazeera we look back at twenty seventeen through the eyes of five families have been affected by some of the big stories of the year in an increasingly polarized world people in power sheds light on the darkest abuses of authority ten days of comprehensive coverage about nuclear arsenals around the globe and the impact they have on the diplomatic stage a special program dedicated to this year's nobel peace prize laureates i can and their pursuit of a nuclear weapon free world and we look ahead to the big stories that could dominate the headlines in twenty eighteen. december on al-jazeera. what began as a small extremist group in africa's most populous country we didn't get out and back to from the government to just shoot him soon turned into a battle front for the nigerian government tried out yet why. the tories for abducting more than two hundred schoolgirls the killing and displacement of thousands of people al-jazeera investigates the origins and bloody rise of oku iraq at this time on al-jazeera. and all of the brought in and out of the headlines on al-jazeera u.s. .