>> so we will get right to the program. it's my pleasure to introduce the director of the department of building inspection tom hui who will welcome you all. >> good afternoon everyone. first of all i would like to say thank you for the quick introduction brief. also i would like to say that few of the building official here and also we would like to welcome the california accessible commission to come over here and also it's proud to convene to welcome them because the disability is one of the top things in my department for the public to comply and i would like to extend my appreciation to the chair and also steve and he spent extensive time and also he's the chair to do the check lease to make it public to make sure people comply and understand the check list itself. also our access appeal panel to go out to the public to make sure they all comply to this requirement, and also i want to quickly appreciate former supervisor tom ammiano and former congressmen for the state. he spent lots of time to create this commission to serve the public, and also i want to say our supervisor katy tang. she also spent this time to improve on the ordinance for accessibility requirement. both of them will join us later on this afternoon. also we are doing a little bit early celebration on the 25th anniversary for the commission for the state. we are happy. 25 years is a long time. a young man stills has lots of energy. we're going to move forward and make people understand and especially san francisco is a tough city, lots of challenge because of the physical condition. we're not trying to penalize the owner or anything. we just want to encourage them and help out for the public to make sure they comply to the law, and further to spend too much time to talk about it i would like to introduce steven to come up and then start the program. thank you. >> well thank you very much for that introduction and it's a pleasure to be here. i appreciate san francisco inviting us to join today. my name is steve dolim. i'm commissioner with the ccda and presently serving as vice chair to the commission. i think i also served in the purpose of our discussion is i served as the chair for our sub-committee on the accessibility check list project, and to give you a little history the accessibility check list sub-committee was formed in july of 2014. the purpose was in response with what the legislature tasked in senate bill 1608 which became government code, and several years before july of 2014 we -- this task was to create a check list a master check list for disability access compliance that maybe used by the building inspectors, and this was the mission as defined by the california legislature in preparing that law. the check list committee was formed with 11 members, and then the ccda executive director. the listen committee members made -- 11 members came from a very diverse background. we had five members of the aia. we had six registered architects. we had four certified access specialist institute members that are active practitioners of kasp. we had three members of a northern building officials organization. we had members from the division of state architect that was involved specifically with disability matters within the organization. we had three current building officials. we had two commissioners who also were serving on the ccda itself. we had one member from the california building standards commission office. we also had another member from the housing and community development group, and we have one general contractor, so you add up all those things it was a lot more than 11 people because these people often shared diverse backgrounds and multiple experiences so we counted each and every one of those. we initially commencedda a check list committee and getting samples of check lists that were published and commercially available including the san francisco department of public works, quick sheets developed by the disability access coordinator. it included a restaurant accessibility field guide prepared by designing accessible communities and several other wases accessibility specialists that worked with them and we saw examples of bifold and trifold products published by a local book store. we have the department of general services check list used for state leased facilities. we look at a cal bo sample check list. we looked at private party check lists such as e van terry associates, code master and lastly to kind of enlighten us out of our specialty we looked at a restaurant association food prep check list because of their style and diverse usage we thought that would be good too. we concluded after looking at these as a committee the shorter style check lfs the most important easily carried guide that could be taken on the job site by building inspectors opposed to a thicker compendium that was like buying the code so what was the point? all building inspectors were trained with the code. they have it available to them if they need it but often a quick tickler is important to all of us when walking the field so as a committee we concluded that would be the most easily portable and easily assimilated product. it would be short, easy to carry. it could be put in a three ring binder or carried about. our second task was related to how do we develop this check list in the manner that isn't a repetition of other documents that are out in the field? and we concluded that today probably one of the hardest short coming is a major construction job is finished and the knowledge fortunately -- building official shows up and it's terrible to hear this floor needs to be changed because the toilet is in the wrong decision. we need to move it over 3 inches so we reflected on that and concluded that many of the agencies are already at the site multiple times so we did a quick survey. we found out that sacramento county had eight stages of inspections already where the inspectors were on the site but only one time did they look for accessibility at the end. we looked at the dsa inspection card has 52 sign offs and of the 52 sign offs they're at numerous stages depending on the complexity of the project and there were three times that anybody checked accessibility out of the 52. we concluded sampling many others from smaller cities to other agencies like fire agencies that it's probably not the best use of everybody's time to just check it once or twice at the end. maybe we should integrate it in a process to inspect it over time and that way we can incorporate any shortcoming with corrections. if the plumbing is in the wrong position we can catch that before the finishes are set and the concrete is pored -- i am sorry i said that backwards and with the toilet on top. that's the painful time so we developed our thought process of this tickler form of check list would have phases that integrates what goes on in the natural construction project and when officials are on site so we concluded there are good opportunities for example for site walkways and surfaces at the rough grading stage or the form work stage before your foundations are pored or before the walkways and ramps are pored. we determined there were opportunities during rough framing. do we have the necessary clearances for the doors and rough plumbing and rough electrical. lastly during the final stages many things happen before the last sign off such as elevators get checked, restrooms get checked and cabinets and counters, dinking fountains and alarms and signages and all have multiple opportunities to integrate any necessary corrective step so we geared our check list highlighting those natural progressions, and i'm happy to show it and hold it up, and show you the fold out formats, but what we have is a topic at rough grade. here is where you may look. at a rough electrical you maybe over here, and you can see the progression of lists does get bigger and longer, but it gives us an opportunity to have it -- parking for example in the code sections, what you would look at during each of the stages so i am very happy to show this and share it. we posted it in numerous locations. we have it available in a trifold. we have it on the ccda website which we can pull up and illustrate here. i don't know how the technical side works, but -- there you go. we have it available in a finish document stage. and it's also available as a multiple document for each agency as a word document if we so choose, so this is a tool. it's a working tool, and we just first welcome the usage, the molding because this is our first crack and we're here to reflect what works. if there are suggestions or for example a situation in san francisco maybe different than a situation in a smaller municipality. this maybe crafted by each agency for its usage. it's not meant to be a static document. we will attempt to keep it up-to-date for each of the code cycles. for example in the 2013cbc that was issued january 1, 2014 and effective date we also have the addendum -- sorry, is that the right therm? but the july 1 changes issued in 2015 so we again go back. we will augment any code changes or any other issues in this so that we keep it as a living and breathing document. again we're very proud of the efforts that went into this, and the kinds of surveys and feedback and data. we had help along the way from cal bo in running surveys with its membership. we had help with building standards commission surveying their membership. we had input from a lot of organizations, and there is much time and energy that went into this. there's a lot of pats on the back that are due, and it's my point in the meeting to turn over this to one of the commissioners, betty wilson and chris downey to help recognize all of the efforts and further this meeting so thank you very much. [applause] >> okay. now this is an example of accessibility because here we are being that i'm using a wheelchair today and my fellow commissioner mr. downey is walking with his cane, and we're now going to provide you with some information that you might not have known. many of our commissioners really did take great part in developing this checklist and it's an unique document. it's one they consider as a living document. as we get new information we plan to keep it updated and at this time i would really would like very much if our vice chair would bring -- i guess bring up to our dais here, or bring up to me or whatever. i want to recognize the members of the committee, of the checklist committee who put in many long hours to making this a reality, and i want you to know that we as commissioners are committed to working on universal or actually access for all. we want everyone to have an opportunity to get and be involved in community life as well as take part in the government process, take part in all of the things that are allowed us as american citizen exercise those who are tourists that come from. >> >> countries. we prevery pleased to say that and chris downey commissioner -- chris downey has been the chair of this whole under taking, and i would like to -- of the education and outreach committee. we're a standing committee of the commission and it's our charge also to try to get the word out all over the state as well as the country and anywhere else, anyone that is going to listen. we need to have the word state wide so this is why the checklist committee is one good document and a very good start so commissioner downey if you have more to add go right ahead. >> thank you betty, commissioner wilson. it's a pleasure to be here and part of this event and especially it's exciting to be part of an effort to improve the process for getting things built properly in the environment to catch things at the appropriate times so when it's finally completed that that things have been caught along the way in the most efficient manner as possible to everyone's benefit, the business owner, the client, and the department and the people at large, so it's an exciting day and a pleasure to be part of this and thanks for the work of the checklist committee. >> so at this time i would like to ask our vice chair to acknowledge the members of the committee who have really worked hard and have produced such a successful and extraordinary document. i think it's one of a kind frankly. >> well, i will read the list and hopefully you can still hear me but we had on the check list committee mike brinkman building official and consultant. [applause] and ida claire with the division of state architect. she couldn't be here today. we had sue mo with the division of state architect who couldn't be here. we have stoyan [inaudible] of housing and community development. [applause] and we had participant from american institute of architects, california council kirk [inaudible] and gary [inaudible] [applause] we have one of our other commissioners michael pairvana. looks like he is in sacramento at this point and we got more envelopes. who am i leaving out? myself. [laughter] [applause] [inaudible] with that i hope i didn't omit anybody. thank you very much for all the hard work and the group [inaudible] and product and look forward to evolving this thing and making sure it is working for everybody. thank you. [applause] >> just to conclude our section we look forward to all of you continuing the work on making california one of the most -- the most accessible state in the union because believe me i travel a lot and we are better than most, but we have a long way to go, and thank you so much for being here, and witnessing this historical moment actually. okay thank you. [applause] >> now at this point in our meeting i have great pleasure to introduce the next person on the agenda. yoni fong manages the disability access compliance program for the coastal region of sutter health. she works closely with facility planners, architects, contractors and -- i'm sorry, architects and contractors that are responsible for completing barrier removal projects on existing sites. prior to joining sutter health she was the executive director of the california berkeley based center for independent living whose mission was to promote inclusion of all people with disabilities so at this point it gives me pleasure to turn the meeting over to yomi to run the balance. >> thank you. can everybody hear me okay? great. so it's a great honor to be here. i am not a building inspector or an architect but i work with them and i appreciate all of the hard work and the focus and the attention to detail that goes into what it is that you do, and as a person with a disability i also know what it feels like when we miss the mark, and we miss opportunities to catch things, so i think that this is an exciting moment. it is a historic moment and i think it falls in line nicely with the 25th anniversary of the americans with disabilities act which is what our country is celebrating this summer so congratulations to the commission and to the sub-committee that put this together. it looks like a lot of work went into it. i mean it's just a couple of pages when you fold it out but i know it's a lot of detail involved so we're going to spend about the next 40 minutes or so having a discussion with people who work in the field who are going to talk about the checklist and about some of the challenges and opportunities that they see today, so as i call your name and start to interviews -- introduce you make your say up to the stage. gary lehman has developed surveys and inspections in california and nevada since 1987 and in construction for over 35 years, building inspection, plan review since 1987 and a california licensed contractor since 1995. he holds a bachelor's degree in construction management and masters in public administration. he is a certified accessibility specialists who has performed more than 500 accessibility evaluations for public accommodations and public facilities so welcome gary. jeff bytheway and has experience as a licensed contractor and serving the city of los angeles since 2006. he is a senior building inspector with the city of los angeles. has served as the training officer for the los angeles building residential and energy and zoning codes and a certified access specialists. welcome jeff. randy goodwin. randy has 30 years of experience in building architecture and open space development. he earned his degrees in architecture from montana state university and randy works for the city of west sacramento as the architectural projects manager and city architect and building official. it's a lot of job and a commissioner serving on the seismic safety commission. welcome. arnie lerner. here we go. hi arnie. he earned his bachelor's degree from the university of kansas in design and has been a architect in the preservation and accessibility committees for the last 30 years and became a specialists with the california division of the state architect. in addition mr. lerner has served on the board of directors of the san frapt -- san francisco architects board and on the access appeals commission serving as the president for the next year. elizabeth rider. she is a constant advocate for the building code and its proper use. most especially to ensure that accessibility is followed through both on plan review and in the field. mrs. rider currently serves as examiner for commercial and residential projects and done numerous inspections of accessible features in commercial facilities and served as building official, plan examiner and building inspector in numerous jurisdictions and she is currently employed by csg consultants and serves as the building official for the city of pacifica. jeff james is the chief building inspector for the county of fresno and spent the last 17 years working for public agencies as a plans examiner and building official and holds a bachelor's degree in architect and you are a master's degree in eek logical design and certified plan inspector and building official and jeff is a director with the california department of building officials so welcome to the panelists so i'm going to just throw out an open ended question and whoever would like to lean in and answer the question feel free so kind of two fold. what are some of the challenges you face to improve compliance with accessibility regulations, and how might this new checklist might improve your efforts? go ahead randy. >> sure. i am in a small jurisdiction -- first of all i want to thank the commission for inviting me. i'm humbled and i am surrounded by people who are much more knowledgeable than i am and i hope i can share something today, and one of those things is my appreciation for the checklist. in my jurisdiction we are in a building boom as in many jurisdictions and we see high rise buildings coming into a small jurisdiction that hasn't had them before and we had one 19

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