at the touch teach you how not to discriminate you don't get that in a regular schools regular schools let them talk about each other and at the success stare your taught how to act i feel if you guys don't notice they're doing more and until like to get back less i feel like this is kind of like you know taking kids who are supposed to be delinquents and their graduating i don't see that is a problem but that's pretty much my opinion. >> that's 10 minutes how many - two speakers okay too speakers. >> good evening i'm sorry with the uk sf our program we deal with ages 10 to thirty victims of gunshot trauma that come from the hospitalized our program we collaborative with the success center myself and the other case managers we refer clients to the success center for ged to complete their ged education and also for employment services as well our clients are extremely high-risk and clients come if a community in the city sunnyvale and the worker and sfobt part of why i'm able to send our clients that are extremely high-risk to the success center to focus on completing their case plans and needs it is a neutrality zone an off limits zone where young men who are involved in this lifestyle they focus and feel safe at the success center it is a neutrality site and safe with the staff and feel thank they're around family my concern is from a violence prevention standpoint they're offering is somewhere where the civic center in the w you're asking those men and women to cross zones and place themselves in safety to come to the we work and probably place themselves in possible danger and harm's way i ask you reconsider the offer and come up with something a little bit more tampa tomb to the spaces to serve the youth and the wonderful team they have you know over at the success center otherwise we're looking at complications. >> speaker please. good evening. i'm vicky the chair of the board of success in san francisco i know you've pretty much heard what we do and who we are we've taken on the toughing job the most vulnerable youth under the limp of lloyd's jackson their surrendered but this requires extra staff and extra programming we bring 3 times as much money into the program as we get from the san francisco unified school district we said that you're in a crutch for space right now and we appreciate the offer you've made but we very specific needs including spates safety, the things how kids needs to be successful and if you can't do that we understand you've got space crunch if i can't do it right now work with us to give us more time and we know find the right place thank you. >> (clapping). >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry one minute really one minute. >> i was formal chief counselor in hunters point and provided legal services and served as a commissioner on the probation commission and worked closely with the san francisco unified school district superintendant we reformed criminal justice i'm asking to reconsider the space allocations one the perks of jewel hall to create an environment where kids kids can feel safe what the nonprofits create the safe haven experts on the board you know what environment means we're talking about creating pathway you're trying to create opportunity for people that feel outside of the system to be included liz has created an exemplar program i went to oakland and came back this is important and you all make it a happy space you've got it you've god got to find it i seen this department work miracles those kids are the same kids whether in the juvenile system or here in our schools i ask you to reconsider find that space and make this program something you can reciprocate thank you very much (clapping.) >> i'd like to ask ms. liz jackson to give her contact information to mr. steel. >> okay. it closes. we've move on to item k the advisory committee report by board members do board members have admitted appointments together >> seen we'll move on to item l special order of business i called a public hearing with the service plan may i have a motion and second on the deposition of the plan. >> so moved and mr. superintendant read the resolution into the record. >> thank you madam president tiled invite our sfrunt for special education dr. liz to come forward from the special presentation. >> good evening g y irvine is join me in case you have questions regarding the service plan so we are requesting that you consider the deposition of the annual service and annual budget plan we're required by assembly bill 602 to present this to you it outlines the description of the services and location of the services and provides access for students to receive a free and appropriate education so did you have any questions regarding the plan. >> so we'll have discussion 3 public speaker cards (calling names) and if you could come to the podium one minute per person. >> hi, i'm katie raul the inner coming chair for the special education i wanted to introduce myself and say that i'm hopefully that the crack can continue our positive partner with the board of education superintendent carranza and dr. and dj is one of our favorite guys he brings the numbers and statistics in a manner in which makes it comprehendible we have many, many things on the agenda but in particular we will be doing the highlighting of the issues around reading special education students that are diagnosed with specific learning disabilities and ref their classrooms in a special setting issues with reading and they have disabilities really a difference we're hoping to - we're - we were asked to do i and others putting together a revenue ray research paper hoping to present this to the cca in the fall and pass this on the board of education when finished thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hello, i'm lee the first chair in coming from the advisory committee in special education i have 4 kids in the district mission and mira loma one in special ed, i heard a story on all things considered about school district in the european suicidal michigan i'm a horrible multi articulateer but all about the school district made up mostly of native and african-american students masonic the locals reservation no tax basis so it is a federally funded school but their test scores and all their achievement put them into the highest per actually, in the state of michigan because their federally fund their average funding is $2,000 per below the standard district and they choose to use that money on early intervention surrounding reading and paraprofessional support because this is a very socioeconomically disadvantaged group that led me to know think about the african-american initiative a lot of work done among the african-american community and the tack away for special education i think we have important smaller class sizes to train those teachers we've talked about sorry i'm wrapping i promise the educator focus in-laws block guatemala as part of el cap no credentials for special education retention is a big problem right now a teacher that started in ucsf a counterpart in san raphel is working on the incredibly we don't have a way she can move there and get a $6,500 raise after we've spent a lot of money training here in san raphel and parse we need more paris and thank you those are my takeaways thank you for your time. >> susan solomon i want to take some of my time so is how valuable to get to know the special ed cca i'm really glad that katie and lee will be there and couple of things to follow up i'm glad that staffing is related to i e p it is important for the paraprofessionals i think we've built capacity to do professional in house services that means less money spent on outside consultant similar as we build skill sets in our staff in i think we need a non-public setting that's where a lot of the funding goes if we can keep the students here to it would be great for the district and families i've heard rumors that good set is coming and it spiels the first year teachers coming in this year can hold out this year and part of next they'll have the basic support i hope someone can clarify that rumor. >> rumor verified. >> that concludes public comment questions or comments colleagues commissioner norton. >> yeah. i want to first of all thank the members for coming and staying through the long discussions and public comment and dr. block could and others for her hard work i did and you and i dr. block could i wanted to note isn't going because we've recently renewed the contract and i think that there's been great stuff done in the district the landscape is transformed from before i was on the board and in terms of inclusive processes i know our work is a big part of that but note what ms. solomon said i hope we're move to a place we're institutionalized a lot of the work and move to an internal model that will save us money and capacity and add some career pathways for teachers to become coaches of other teachers for example but other than that, i don't have comments thank you, everybody for the work and appreciate you're being here. >> can i respond to that we are we've trained 20 people already our plan was working with this year to train our staff and new staff with our own teachers and be coaching the trainers making sure they can certify them with the models and the sustainability plan is in place that's exactly what we plan on doing much of the money you approve for the training and institutional aids online and it is not only good for them to continue the work but the work is a little bit different. >> commissioner walton. >> just wanted to i'll not making the el cap meeting i'll get there in the next couple of months but in terms of needing more pars i wonder at what level the high school and then if we can get a price tag or figures what that developments in terms of the need moving forward that will be helpful. >> commissioner wynns. >> thank you. >> so i said to kind of follow-up on commissioner fewers question during the budget process i appreciate what the superintendent said but about staff i understand that that is kind of what drives this although i still have serious concerns about the transportation costs and their exponential growth but so when we were engaged in the new design our decision in the recent years includes the practices and the board we talked about a lot about the staffing model is different that we will probably need to have some kind of double staffing for a while but not permanently so i think this is the same question i've asked last year and probably will every year i want to be able to see that we will eventually be drawing down some of the positions if this is not going to happen we need to know that the growth of the programs support of the budget support is urban sustainable i don't think you know think that that according to my back of the envelope of arresting tisk has surpassed 15 hundred and moving towards $2,000 per student we have more money but that's not the purpose of it and anybody thinks that's the purpose that we raise the investments in california and simple a large percentage of that for the support of special ed and particularly because i was convinced and remain convinced i'd like to have assurance we were spending money under the old model we had that was not being well spent so i don't want us to keep on spend that amateur of money to do things you know that the staffing model has us still doing understand we're not doing that but the staff keep on doing the things and - so i could be wrong and ready to be convinced i'm wrong but yet we've had to hire more people and we see that but that isn't an answer to the question in my opinion and mr. superintendent. >> great, thank you madam president and commissioner wynns so again, very insight full i want to be careful when we talk about this particular issue there's a dangerous association between associating increased costs with in any way, shape, or form giving the impression that will result in less services for students so i want to be really up front the, i.e., plan drives what the costs are in a number of areas not only problematic but staffing in terms of resources if there's do you want technology that is a mri i can't do of costs but understanding we're not sacrifice services for students you're absolutely right commissioner when we did our special educations audit 5 years ago now, one the biggest drivers of costs are inefficiencies in the program inefficiencies are part of that how we staffed our schools and our, i.e., p and master schedules in the secondary schools and lefrment and an incredible lack of professional development for our kurntd staff to move from the patriarchs to a service approach who've 345u67bd or maventd a lot of capacity development over the last 5 years but remnants of a model i want to or be direct i'm concerned when i hear about increasing staffing and do not want to point out we don't need more people but better trained as we're training the people that is going to result in us being able to address some of the staffing concerns but i couldn't g we're really about 3 years into that kind of staffing shift and a cultural shift we're taking on in the district the belief that every student that walks into a classroom is a general education student that happens to have an i e p that's a big shift i'm not trying to be disrespect i'm keeping it real keeping it real that's a shift in the district there are places not every student is treat as a general education stated first that's part of the capacity we're undertaking the board of education will see coming from the staff in the fall a proposal to have phase 2 of our evaluation our audit 5 years of our original audit bring in a third partyimpartial where have we come and some suggestions in terms of staffing nevertheless of fiscal management the entire program from soup to bolts what a third party says to drive our strategy working going forward i'm thrilled to here vice president solomon talk about an in house mp s she's absolutely right we can capture students that are sent to non-public schools extraordinarily to the district provide quote/unquote cadillac programs so students won't have to leave and do a great job with that in house that means the prospective that we have lots of vacant property and lots of classrooms available wear hoarding that but no. there's an incredible pressure on real estate and that also effects in the skrukt as well so as we're undergoing the secular can we identify space to spectacular exploring the development of non-public in house in san francisco i'm happy to say that dr. is starting that architecture work and exists about the special education i think the board of education because this semester the board has been had lots of communication from the constituents where we've had to make consolidations of staff at school sites i get it people get close to the people they work with we want that a great culture but from the numbers don't match the needs for staffing we are being i think negligent in our fiduciary responsibility to continue to over staff in places where staffing should be then moved to other places in the exact date where there's a need we recognize that's hard and want to be incentive but that is part of the fiscal responsibility the pragmatic underline about the delivery model ramp a problematic approach to education not alike the cultural competency and the bias training around the students of color but the training for inclusive practices with the students and exclusivity every education student is also a huge cultural shift we're pushing hard i'll say one last thing i'm also very, very supportive of the development of capability internally for us to be able to provide those career lattice, if you will for the teachers to have different kinds of responsibilities there's but something about a third party trainer not in the system that can come in with best practices and take into account our best practices and give us hard feedback about what our doing isn't effective or not aligned with the best practices nationally as we partnered with consultant we've partnered very specific about that in mind we want them to give us the bad news and identify what where we can do better but again commissioner wynns our right. i presenter our bringing up it question that should be the question we consider as we go forward. >> if no further questions ms. casco roll call vote please. thank you ms. fewer i'm sorry she recorded her vote. >> mr. haney ms. mendoza-mcdonnell ms. norton mr. walton ms. wynns dr. murase 7 i's. >> thank you next may i have the next on the agenda is the county office of education for the state may i have a motion and second the approval the fiscal year 2015-2016 adapted budget for sfusd and the san francisco county of education in the standard device count code. >> so moved and second. >> thank you. >> superintendent carranza have your person read into the record. >> i'd like to ask the chief financial officer of the county rita to come forward just a joke please read. >> the first title i'm adding to my job so the requested action is it the board of education approve the fiscal year 2015-2016 adopted budget for the san francisco unified school district and that the county office of education in the official state forms prescribed by the state public instruction a.d. code and