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♪♪ good day to you. i'm peter alexander in for andrea mitchell. president biden is a few hours away from landing in italy for a g7 summit with some of america's biggest allies. ukraine presses the west for more aid and pressure mounts on israel and hamas to end the war in gaza. the secretary of state delivering the first comments on the response by hamas to the latest cease-fire proposal saying in qatar, it's time for the haggling to stop. >> hamas proposed numerous changes to the proposal that was on the table. some of the changes are workable. some are not. if one side continues to change its demands, including making demands and insisting on changes for things that it accepted, you have to question whether they are proceeding in good faith or not. i believe the gaps are bridgeable. doesn't mean they will be bridged. >> president biden departed for the g7 summit with world leaders this morning after quickly rearranging his travel to be by his son's side last night. that visit coming hours after hunter biden was convicted of multiple felonies and faces possible jail time months before his second criminal trial will begin this september, as his father's re-election campaign gets into its final push. we begin with mike memoli is in wilmington, delaware, richard engel is in kharkiv, ukraine, and the host of the show, andrea mitchell, she has been traveling with secretary blinken from equip to israel and qatar. she filed this report moments ago. >> here in qatar, it was clear frustration by secretary blinken that 12 days after president biden unveiled the latest proposal, which the u.s. is backing and which they insist that israel has endorsed, that hamas has come back with new proposals, some he said are workable, some are not workable. now they're going to have to narrow the gap. he said, what they really need is an mediate least temporary cease-fire so that the suffering can end in gaza for a while. they can try to negotiate a perp -- permanent cease-fire and the war can end. the response from the u.s. is, we have work do. they will go back to hamas and try to narrow the gaps. the war continues. there's a new threat in the north of israel from hezbollah. at this point, israel is facing the war in gaza, threats from the north, and there's no desired result as blinken heads to join president biden at the g7 in italy, leaving the middle east. >> andrea mitchell moments ago. richard engel is joining us now. you are in eastern ukraine near the russian border. the war a major focus for the g7. biden expected to meet with president zelenskyy for a second time in as many weeks. i was there with them as they met at the d-day commemorations in france. give us a sense if you can about the crucial nature of this timing, given the fact there's so much pressure to advance the ball as it relates to ukraine, because everyone acknowledges this cannot go without any end. >> reporter: there is an impression it seems that people in the united states are spending money on ukraine, that is having no impact. it's just a river that flows to nowhere. here -- i've been in the city for many times over the last two and a half years since the war began. this was a city that about a month ago looked like it potentially could be falling. there was a russian advance. russian troops were closing in. they were raining bombs on kharkiv every day. over the last two weeks, now that american weapons, american support has arrived here, pressure on kharkiv has eased up significantly. the local officials here, military officials say there has been a palpable change in the city. occasionally, there are still attacks. people are coming out again. there's life in the city again. they say that's because the aid which was delayed, held up by congress, is now starting to arrive. also because thelowed to use th american weapons to carry out strikes inside russia, on russian territory. that's shifted the focus. it has not allowed russia to focus all of its attention on carrying out strikes in ukraine, but it has to protect its own bases, radar stations attacked. ukrainians are looking forward the g7. they want to build on what they believe is a little bit of momentum out here in the east. they want more support, more money for reconstruction. they are hoping that the u.s. can be successful in europe, that president biden can personally be successful in convincing the europeans to use some frozen russian assets and to get some of that money to ukraine, potentially $50 billion. it wouldn't come directly from frozen russian assets. the frozen russian assets would be used as collateral for a loan that european nations, g7 nations would be giving to ukraine. there's no consensus on that. a lot of european countries are nervous about that precedent, nervous about using frozen russian money to pay ukraine. they are concerned it breaks long international traditions. it puts the euro and u.s. dollar at risk as reserve currencies and a bridge too far for some countries to go. >> stunning as we hear from you to think that this is the third g7 since this war between russia and ukraine began. i want to get to mike memoli who had been traveling with the president. he was in wilmington when the president arrived there yesterday. that flight after the verdict, an opportunity to visit very publicly with his son hunter. that relationship so close. his last surviving son after the loss of beau. i want to get a take from you, mike, as we talk about this right now. there is clearly a lot on the president's mind as he prepares for this trip overseas right now. not just as it relates to hunter but with the debate coming up later this month as well. this is a very busy period for him. >> reporter: yeah, that's right, peter. we have some new developments in the last hour that speak to this interesting dynamic of the president setting this tone of business as usual but also what occurred yesterday in the courtroom in wilmington impacting the road ahead as well. jake sullivan briefing reporters on the president's jam-packed agenda during this g7 summit. a trip that now we are confirming via the white house press secretary includes family members traveling with him on this trip. we saw one of his granddaughters joining him as they boarded air force 1 earlier today. that g7 summit includes not just meetings with fellow world leaders but another significant world leader in pope francis who is something of a personal counselor to this president. they have a close relationship. the presence of the family with him on the trip is significant. we have heard from the first lady's office today. the first lady is a regular presence at the trial. she is going to embark on a busy campaign schedule over the next three days. signaling they are preparing as a family to keep fighting together through this difficult moment. >> mike memoli traveling there in wilmington, delaware. richard engel in ukraine. i want to go to richard haas. as you join us, i want to start with ukraine. we are hearing from the top deputy to president zelenskyy announcing on social media that the u.s. has agreed to a new security commitment as it relates to ukraine. it appears to be that's just additional money in terms of military aid. i want to ask you about the options that the g7 leaders face as it relates to ukraine. richard detailed the reporting a significant loan that would be offset by interest earned on the hundreds of billions of dollars in frozen russian assets. is that realistic? >> it's realistic. the question is whether it can actually happen. in order to rebuild ukraine, you have a certain assumption about stability. if not a cease-fire, you can't have russia destroying what you are rebuilding. we are not there. i'm not wildly optimistic, even if this gets approved, about it making that much of a difference. the real question, it hangs over the g7, is going to be the scale of the long-term american commitment to providing military aid to ukraine. we had the interruption. the question is, how long does it stay open? how much will flow through? that's the big question. >> of course. the backdrop to that, on the mind of the western leaders, the g7 leaders as they meet with the president, that there is a former president, donald trump, who is waiting in the wings hoping to return to power again. so this is the last opportunity potentially under a biden presidency if the united states decides to vote on donald trump. i heard that from a lot of european allies. that's a real concern. let me ask you about gaza. if hamas is balking again, as we heard from antony blinken, where is there room for movement? what more can the u.s. do in dealing with hamas' leader who recently told the washington street journal, palestinian deaths are necessary sacrifices? >> when people say things, you have to take them at face value. there's little the united states can do to put leverage on hamas. hamas is not going to agree to a peace plan that gives them no future and no role. secretary blinken called it haggling. it's more than that. the entire premise of the biden peace plan is probably unlikely to fly. hamas only wants a permanent cease-fire coupled with an israeli evacuation of all of its military forces from gaza. zero chance any israeli government will sign up to that. i think we are looking at prolonged fighting in gaza. i think the real problem is the prospect of more intense fighting in the north between israel and hezbollah. >> that's a real risk for the israelis, two fronts they have to fight simultaneously. it's a real threat to that country and netanyahu trying to sort through the situation. i want to pull back and ask you the view from beijing right now. china obviously is on the minds of everybody who is meeting in italy this week. is china effectively taking advantage of the u.s. since western allies are focused on ukraine and gaza? there are issues like artificial intelligence that could define the next generation in terms of this west versus east fight and the chinese are heavily investing in that. >> so are we. what we are doing in the middle east and ukraine is not getting in the way of american innovation. europeans aren't doing much in the way of innovation but the united states is. the real place of china in this is the united states and europe aren't on the same page. the united states wants a more restrictive relationship. europeans are not there. what worries me in the backdrop is down the road we could find the united states and europe at cross purposes which could affect what gets to china. there will be those in the united states that will call for sanctions against europe if they don't agree with certain controls on what goes to -- what can go to china. >> so many moving parts at once right now. richard haas, a pleasure to have you and your expertise. i appreciate you. legal hurdles. a look at the sentence hunter biden may face after his conviction and how that might 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(vo) switch to the partner businesses rely on. hunter biden is expected to appeal the guilty verdict in his federal gun case as he looks at potential jail time and a second trial on tax charges this september. the jury disagreed on the verdict with an even 6-6 split, according to one juror who spoke to nbc news, but asked we conceal his identity. that juror, number 10, spoke to ryan nobles about hunter's sentencing. >> honestly, i don't think putting hunter in jail is going to help anybody. i hope that hunter is clean and i hope that his sobriety is going well. >> another female juror tells "usa today" that the trial was a waste of taxpayer dollars. she didn't want to convict because, in her words, hunter needed help. after the verdict, the special counsel argued his team prosecuted without any political pressure. >> no one in this country is above the law. everyone must be accountable for their actions, even this defendant. >> that's the special prosecuor who was appointed by former president trump as a u.s. attorney. joining me is paul charlton. the judge did not set a sentencing date but said -- we should note it happens four months after a verdict like this, which could put it in the middle of the next trial of the urgent period of time where joe biden is running for re-election and hunter biden is in the middle of another trial. how steep could hunter's punishment be and how likely do you think he is to succeed in an appeal? >> the next thing that's going to happen for hunter biden is he is going to have to sit down with a pre-sentence report writer who will create a matrix that will suggest to the judge the appropriate sentence. those who have done this calculation -- it can be complex at times -- say that the recommended sentence under the guidelines could be in excess of one year incarceration. it's important to remember that the guidelines are just that, a recommendation. the judge is free to impose whatever sentence she thinks is reasonable. while your first juror that we heard from in your piece early on said that he didn't think that hunter biden should go to prison, remember that's the same evidence that this judge has heard. what was used as a sword by the prosecution, hunter biden was an addict addict, it's likely to be used as a shield by the defense. tha narcotics warrants mercy. the prosecution, these charges are unusual but are born out of a failed attempt to enter into a plea agreement last june. that failed attempt to enter that means the prosecution felt an obligation to come forward with these unusual charges. they may similarly feel obligated to seek a term of incarceration. i suspect, peter, if we were going to look at the tea leaves, this judge is unlikely to impose a term of formal incarceration. there are lots of ways to restrict somebody's liberty short of putting them in prison. ankle prison, frequent reports to the probation officer, frequent drug tests, weekend incarceration at a halfway house. >> the tax case that goes to trial this september really the potential to expose damaging details as it relates to hunter's business dealings, potentially some ugly details about his family as well. how serious are those charges in the case? >> federal tax cases, here is what i know to be true, jurors don't like complicated tax cases. they don't like too many deductions, complicated tax laws. they like a simple equation. they will convict often on equations that go something like this. the defendant made a lot of money and he didn't pay taxes. here, unfortunately for hunter biden, that's what the prosecution alleges. they say hunter biden earned $1.4 million and failed to pay taxes. if they can prove that, the likelihood of conviction increases. the fact that he now has prior convictions makes a term of incarceration somewhat more likely. it's also the amount that the treasury didn't receive, $1.4 million, that increases the risk of incarceration. this is the time when defense attorneys will typically sit down with the client and say, it's time to go back to the prosecution and re-visit this idea of a plea agreement. >> to be clear, last question as my time is limited, a plea agreement would address only the next case? there's no way to bundle it into one as they had hoped to do given the first is a guilty conviction? >> you can't erase the guilty conviction. but you can ask the judge to consider a reduced sentence or a sentence of probation on the gun charges and work with the central district of california, where the tax charges are going forward, to try to resolve those as well. >> we will be reporting out to see if there's any conversations about that. that's a focus going forward. paul charlton, thanks for your expertise. next here, money matters. how the federal reserve's decision on interest rates could impact your wallet. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports." this is msnbc. or t-e-d, which may need a different doctor. find a t-e-d eye specialist at isitted.com. ♪ you need t-mobile... ♪ ♪ home internet with 5g. ♪ wait! t-mobile has home internet? ♪ what a feeling! ♪ ♪ to have t-mobile now! ♪ i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are looking up, i've got symptom relief. ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief at 4 weeks with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements. skyrizi is the first il-23 inhibitor that can deliver remission and visibly improve damage of the intestinal lining. and the majority of people experienced long-lasting remission at one year. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine or plan to. liver problems may occur in crohn's disease. ♪ now's the time to ask your gastroenterologist how you can take control of your crohn's with skyrizi. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ ♪ learn how abbvie could help you save. ♪ limu emu... ♪ and doug. 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>> i think what has happened and what we have seen with the hunter biden verdict that came down, the hypocrisy of the republican party. they believe that what they are being held accountable, that the system is rigged against them, and yet when it's a democrat, it's working just fine. to your point, it's actually taking steam away from that talking point that they use. i'm sorry i got a little bit choked up. as you see, president biden was just trying to be a father yesterday and go console his son who is the center of this trial. there were a lot of conversations about the pain and agony the biden family was dealing with at the loss of president biden's other son to addiction. this contrast, i believe, will help democrats as well as help independents and swing voters looking at the trials. >> there's a moment here where americans are going to have to make decisions for themselves, not the least of which is this is a country that has dealt with addiction, the opioid crisis. you are looking at an adult man, the president's son who is still grappling with his own addiction. if you can erase the politics, that's a powerful image for a lot of people. donald trump heads to washington. he will meet with the house and senate republicans. last hour on capitol hill, we heard from mike johnson. he was asked about mr. trump. here is part of what he said. >> i believe president trump in his second term could be the most consequential president of the modern era. i can't wait for that eventuality to come forward. everyone -- almost everyone is projecting that the republicans will retake the senate and grow the house majority and have the white house as well. >> brendan, mitch mcconnell who denounced donald trump, he now backs him for the presidency. this could be an interesting meeting. is there any unease as they get ready for the visit? >> i think mitch mcconnell can have a good poker face. i think he will be okay. on one hand, this is an unremarkable meeting. the nominee talking about what they would like to do together if he were to win. i have been in a few of these meetings. they are more like a campaign rally where he is just sort of riffing on this and that and there's not a lot of focus to it. one thing i will be interested in, particularly in the senate meeting, mitch mcconnell is stepping down as leader. there's a pretty intense fight for the next leader and whether donald trump gives favor to whether it's john thune, rick scott. i think that's an important moment to decide who will follow mitch mcconnell leading that conference. >> you make a really good point. that's going to be one of the things reporters are trying to find out details about when they walk out of there. this is the first time donald trump will have been back at the u.s. capitol since january 6th. he wasn't there on inauguration day. i can't think of another time. that's a unique and powerful image given what we have seen. the first biden-trump debate a couple of weeks away. i think it's the 27th. we know debates are not everything. with so much at stake right now and an election decided on the margins, this is going to be a crucial debate, i think especially for those double haters, who don't care for either one of these guys. what in particular does joe biden need to accomplish there? >> the obvious thing is the contrast between president biden as well as donald trump, the court cases, the chaos, all of that. the american people know that. the most important piece i will say is the accomplishments of the biden administration. this week there was a global economic report that said the global economy is stronger because the u.s. economy is getting stronger. those are things the president must elevate to the american people, the economy, abortion rights. he should talk about the fact that there are promises that he has made to the american people that have been stalled because of the republican party. there have been achievements on student loan debt forgiveness. some of the policies have been restricted because of republican control. he needs to talk about the supreme court. he has a lot of information he can give to the american people. the sheet of what the administration has done and who is blocking that, the republican party led by donald trump. >> brendon, he is not physically at the capitol when he comes tomorrow, but he will be around the corner. for you as we look ahead to the debate, what does donald trump need to accomplish? one of the things democratic advisors say is that in this new system of campaign coverage, you are not seeing as much of donald trump as in the rallies in the past. you may not see the crazy, chaotic comments he may make. >> perhaps. i think donald trump needs to focus more on expectation setting. one of the things that i think they have done poorly is set the expectation joe biden is going to fall on his face in this debate. setting those expectations is usually pretty important. as we saw in the state of the union, the president is capable of completing sentences. i think when that's your expectation, it's setting yourself up for failure if you are donald trump. at the same time, the first debate typically goes poorly for a president because they are not used to getting challenged. i would argue donald trump is probably in the same situation. i would be curious the last time donald trump really had anybody challenging him in a meaningful way. both of these people have not debatd in a long time. we will see who has the political chops to demonstrate they are in control. >> donald trump didn't show up for the republican primary debates. the last time would have been against each other four years ago. we wait to see. next, high hopes. we will have a powerful conversation coming up moments from now. my conversation with a woman whose family has experienced the joy of a family member returning home after being held by hamas but also has had to deal with the pain of a family member who is still being held captive by the terror group. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. ll reports" only on msnbc immune system to attack cancer. but opdivo plus yervoy is the first combination of 2 immunotherapies for adults newly diagnosed with non-small cell lung cancer that has spread, tests positive for pd-l1, and does not have an abnormal egfr or alk gene. opdivo plus yervoy is not chemotherapy, it works differently. it helps your immune system fight cancer in 2 different ways. opdivo and yervoy can cause your immune system to harm healthy parts of your body during and after treatment. these problems can be severe and lead to death. see your doctor right away if you have a cough; chest pain; shortness of breath; irregular heartbeat; diarrhea; constipation; severe stomach pain; severe nausea or vomiting; dizziness; fainting; eye problems; extreme tiredness; changes in appetite, thirst or urine; rash; itching; confusion; memory problems; muscle pain or weakness; joint pain; flushing; or fever. these are not all the possible side effects. problems can occur together and more often when opdivo is used with yervoy. tell your doctor about all medical conditions including immune or nervous system problems, if you've had or plan to have an organ or stem cell transplant, or received chest radiation. your search for 2 immunotherapies starts here. ask your doctor about opdivo plus yervoy. a chance to live longer. my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it's time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider about nurtec odt from pfizer. 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(vo) switch to the partner businesses rely on. as we have been reporting today in qatar, antony blinken said the u.s. is waiting for hamas to accept the cease-fire and hostage proposal that president biden announced nearly two weeks ago. the secretary met with american israeli hostage families. aviva and her husband were kidnapped on october 7th. she was released in november after 51 days in captivity. her husband, an american from north carolina, is still being held. yesterday andrea had a chance to speak with aviva about the rescue of four hostages this past weekend. >> how did you feel when you saw the rescue operation and the four come back and in the firefight? what impact did that have on the you? >> the four people that came back, i was so happy. i was jumping into the air. then two minutes later, it took me to the sad part of the whole story, worrying about all the hostages that they're going to hide them, they are going to be nervous and take it all out on the hostages. because i was there. that's what happened. >> joining me now is hannah. your dad is brothers with keith. i want to get your sense. we heard from your aunt -- you can only fathom her experience having been held hostage, knowing what those people holding them can do and knowing her husband is still there. what are your concerns right now following this raid that saved four hostages but also risks a potential backlash? >> yeah. first of all, thank you for having me here. over the weekend, seeing the four hostages saved, we are so happy for their families. it's heartening to see that. but the truth is, that brings the total rescued hostages to seven out of a couple of hundred. keith has been there for eight months. we worry about everything. we worry he will die of malnutrition, loss of hope, he will die because of idf bombs. we worry because he is being held by terrorists. we are devastated. riding this roller coaster of maybe there's a deal, maybe there isn't, maybe there's a deal, maybe there isn't. >> your experience demonstrates how close this connects to american families. palestinian and israeli jewish families. this is your uncle who is being held in gaza right now. we heard hamas' response or at least via antony blinken saying there's things they are asking for things more than they asked for before. what do you make of this? >> you know, it's really, really hard to tell. i think at the end of the day, this is a negotiation between israel and hamas. on one side you have a terror group. on the other side you have a leader whose political motivations may not mesh with making a deal. it's very, very hard to watch these negotiations happen over and over again and slip away at the last minute, which is how it feels to the families. it's been a surprise what a roller coaster it has been, how many times this has happened. >> you made a smart point to me. like when we do the news, we talk about this community and that community, there are a lot of jewish americans or israelis who have different opinions of netanyahu. doesn't mean -- you can support israel and you can be furious about the way netanyahu has conducted the war. >> absolutely. i think this is more of an american issue than people realize. on the 7th, there were 45 americans killed, 12 taken hostage. these are american lives. my uncle is from chapel hill. he grew up with my dad and their two siblings. we actually talk about as a family when he comes home. we have hope and faith he will come home. we will go to the mountains of north carolina where we went every year, all of us as a family, and celebrate. this is an american life and an american family suffering. >> nbc news has reporting the biden administration is considering perhaps trying to do some deal via qatar directly ha hamas but via qatar. what do you make of that? is that something you think would be successful, or do you just defer to what the administration is willing to do? >> i want to say that the biden administration has been incredible partners to us and to the other families. they've been transparent. they've been accessible. we are incredibly grateful to them and qatar who served as a mediator. because of qatar and the u.s. my aunt is out. i think it's been eight months and at a certain point, i don't think we can keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, so i'm in favor of anything that's going to get my uncle home and if that's an americans only deal, then, yeah, bring him back. >> let me ask you about "the wall street journal" journal reporting on dozens of messages from yahya sinwar, a name americans may not recognize. it is possible he's many stories beneath ground in gaza right now. according to these messages, he described the palestinian deaths saying that they work to his advantage. he called them, quote, necessary sacrifices, that it only sort of strengthened the position of the palestinians or of hamas in the international community right now. your reaction to those words? >> i mean, it's blatant disregard for human life and it's -- and it's devastating to hear, and i do, you know, i hope that this deal comes together because i do think that a cease fire is what's going to be best for everyone, for the hostages, for israelis, for palestinians, and you know, there's no hostage family that is wishing violence and death on anybody. so you know, it's disheartening, but it's not so surprising. >> and just last thought before we let you go. tell us about keith a little bit. you can sort of visualize that day when the whole family is together, hopefully in north carolina and the mountains and can just have some peace and quiet together as a family again. what is it about him that makes him so special to you? >> he's in many ways the most gentle member of our family. he's a grandfather and in some ways sort of seems like he's always been a grandfather. he's just -- he's incredibly special. he's strong. he celebrated his birthday in captivity a few weeks ago. >> how old did he turn? >> 65, 65 underground waiting for a release. so we're praying every day, and hoping we're together soon. >> hannah siegel, it's so important we keep the stories of these hostages, several of them american hostages, at the forefront of people's minds in this conversation as well. thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> appreciate it. >> we're going to be right back. . under, through, down, and any other direction you may need. ♪♪ up to eight available cameras and fourteen views. ♪♪ so you can focus on the view that really matters. don't miss a thing. chevy's got you. chevrolet. together let's drive. 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