federal candidates. that's all. not to do what the majority actually did by officially giving congress the sole authority to enforce the insurrection clause. there's no basis for that in the constitution quote, the majority attempts to insulate all alleged insurrectionists from future challenges to their holding federal office. we're going to explain what this means in plain language and what it means for the supreme court's next big trump case, immunity. because that decision could have bearing on the other cases we're watching on which we also have news. joining us now, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, nbc news senior legal correspondent, laura jarrett and slate senior writer, mark joseph stern. everybody welcome. laura, this case, you know, you read the opinion, the majority opinion and the you see the headline, everyone agrees this is not political at all, and you read the dissent, and other amy coney barrett, threat liberals on the court, it reads like a dissent. not a concurrence. >> it reads like a dissent because they have a sharp break of the court, the court is reaching out for a power grab it didn't need to do. we agree colorado went too far. everyone on the court agrees this was not up to colorado. individual states couldn't unilaterally be deciding the election. again, you could quibble with that but all of the justices seem to agree on that. what they don't agree with was the next step the majority took, saying congress is the one who's going to have to enact new legislation in order to get this done for a future case. if that's what they want to do, that's totally within congress's purview. they would have to go much further. again, that was not at issue here. colorado was interpreting its own law, and they said basically you didn't need to do this. they're invoking bush v. gore for a reason, the ghost of christmas past on that, knowing everyone's ears perk up when you hear about bush v. gore. there's certainly a break here, and i think it explains why the decision took so long, when everyone came out of the oral argument, this might explain why it took a month. >> i keep calling the concurrence a dissent. it reads like a dissent, and i'm getting it wrapped and warped in my mind. when you look at what amy coney barrett said, she was a solo concurrent, she seemed to not only chastise the majority but chastise her other three colleagues for inflammatory language. it seems to imply that there is a lot of tension behind the scenes in this court. >> yeah, it's really interesting, katy, that you say that. a couple of weeks ago, justices sotomayor, and barrett made a joint opinion, they refer to themselves wearing the same black robe. and how justice sotomayor welcomed her kids to the supreme court, and they have movie nights, and everything is happy happy joy joy and if you read justice barrett's concurrence, she wants you to have that impression of the court. but then again, you read the concurrence by the three liberal justices which starts with a quote from chief justice roberts concurrence in the dobbs case, they say if it's not necessary to decide more to dispose of a case, then it's not necessary to decide more. these are the cleavages we have in the court. >> why did chief justice roberts get involved here. here's such an interesting character on the court because sometimes he sides with the liberals, sometimes the conservatives. you can't quite tell. what's the predictable nature in the way the court operates? is there one? >> the overarching principle is that he's conservative and that pervades almost all of the decisions. there have been outliars when it comes to voting and other things when he has ended up siding with the more progressive members of the court. if you were to look at his over arching legacy, i think it's certainly a conservative like minded principle, and i think especially when it comes to something as politically just charged as this, kicking the republican front runner off the ballot, there was nothing at oral argument that made me think there was a chance. >> why go further to say that congress has the sole authority. why define whose the authority in the insurrection claude when the three liberal justices say your reading not supported by what's in the constitution here. >> if you say that states don't have authority under section 3 of the 14th amendment, you have to come up with something to support that view. the text of section 3 says nothing of the sort. section 5 says congress has the power to enact remedial, a hook on which justice roberts and four other justices hung their hat. one possible interpretation is because he's actually not a believer in this idea that states can do what they want resulting in a patch work. he's a pragmatist in large part, and i think he was legitimately scared if a state like colorado could do what it did here, in future elections we could end up with real asymmetry and who could appear on which state's ballots, depending on litigation or decisions of secretary of state. >> i know mark joseph stern you want to jump in on this. please do. i said a concurring dissent at the top. why did it read like a dissent? >> because, it seems, it originally was a dissent. after this opinion came down, i checked the meta data, and that separate opinion that was presented as a concurrence by justices sotomayor, kagan and jackson, that was originally staten island as a partial dissent by justice sotomayor alone. at some point very late in the process the court switched the words on the page to say that it was a concurrence in the judgment new york city longer a partial dissent, and added justices kagan and jackson. that is not how it read in the meta data, and probably not how it read until the last minute. we know the opinion was rushed out. the court only announced it would be handing it down yesterday afternoon. the court didn't even take the bench to announce it as it usually does. the justices hadn't planned on being in d.c. they pushed it out quickly. they made an error, an oversight. while sotomayor was haed toog a dissent, perhaps justices kagan and jackson were making a play to john roberts, to brett kavanaugh, to cobble together a different majority that would have issued a much narrower holding. stopping it where it needed to stop. not adding this overwhelming and overreaching language about how congress can enforce the clause. something fell apart before the decision came down, and we were left with a divide that was very very sharp. >> is it prudent to read into that about what could come with the immunity decision? i know we're reading tea leaves here. it's such a momentous case, moment us oral arguments. can we read into this from that at all? >> maybe. there was a lot of speculation after oral arguments that there would be a grand bargain between this case and the immunity decision, where the liberal justices would agree to keep trump on the ballot in this case, in exchange for votes to simply deny a stay in the immunity decision, allow the trial to move forward immediately. obviously that has not happened. instead the supreme court scheduled oral arguments in the immunity case for two months from now. they are actually walking that case much slower than they did this one. they are giving trump a lot more time than they gave colorado in this case. i think there was a chance there was a stab at a grand bargain behind the scenes. just kagan who is good at horse trading behind the scenes was trying to find the sweet spot where she could put together the votes bs sign on to a narrow decision here, and asylum -- let the trial go forward, let the jury have its say well in advance of november. that has not happened. even though justice amy coney barrett and sonia sotomayor, love to talk about how they share candy and movie nights, there's bad blood behinds scenes. and the liberal judges have not been able to shake a compromise out of the majority. >> he says in a news letter last week, i argued the supreme court's recent decision on diversity in high school admissions offered a reason for americans to be less cynical about the court. on that subject, the justices seem to be following a consistent principle across several cases. sometimes that principle disappointed the political left. sometimes it disappointed the right. last week's decision feels different. when urgent action could help a republican presidential candidate in 2000, the court which was dominated by republican appointee the at the time, acted urgently. when delay seems to help a presidential candidate, court has chosen delay. the combination does not make the court look independent from partisan politics. i think we should focus on what he says about look. it doesn't make the court look independent. even if they are independent, they're operating independently. the appearance of the court certainly continues to be tainted. >> i couldn't agree more. i would add this is a court that's concerned about appearances. you know, the majority in this case went out of its way to say we're unanimous on our bottom line holding. justice amy cney barrett said we agree on this baseline issue. we don't need to snipe at each other across the divide. there was an effort among six conservatives to say we are united and we are friendly and independent. justice barrett said it's a message americans can take home in this frenzies election season. the three liberal justices are not on the same page, and they would lean more in the direction that david was espousing in the piece. the liberal justices are trying to wave a red flag to the public. it doesn't look good because it isn't good. as hard as the majority tries to cover it up with words like unanimity and collegiality, we're reaching dangerously bad decisions for no good reason. dropping the nuclear citation to bush v. gore is as clear as you can get. so if the liberals were going to tell us we should be worried, this is exactly what it would look like. >> i mentioned it at the top, we're waiting for judge aileen cannon to schedule a trial date in the classified documents case. judge mcafee says he will rule on fani willis and whether or not she can continue the georgia election interference case along with her entire office, d.a. in fulton county in the next two weeks. >> thank you very much. coming up next, she voted for donald trump in 2020, and brought a lawsuit to try to keep him off the ballot in 2024, what krista kafer said she was trying to tell americans when she sued to have trump taken off the colorado ballot. what president biden is warning if he himself wins in november. what is benjamin netanyahu's main political rival doing at the white house today, and what it could signal for gaza. we are back in 60 seconds. and get one free. just scan the qr code and enter promo code flbogo. it only works from the other side of the screen, buddy. you still got a land line in your house. order now in the subway app. (man) excuse me, would you mind taking a picture of us? 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(vo) trade-in any iphone in any condition and get a new iphone 15 pro and an ipad and apple watch se all on us. only on verizon. joining us now, the woman i was just speaking with, one of the plaintiffs in the colorado case that tried to keep donald trump off the ballot. she's also a columnist for the denver post, and with us, president of citizens for responsibility and ethics. you know him, noah bookbinder, his group assisted krista and the other plaintiffs in bringing their case. you voted for rump in 2020. what made you want to keep him off the ballot entirely in 2024, and what do you say to those who say that he needs to be on the ballot. this is the voter's choice about who they put into the white house. >> voters are allowed to vote for anyone who is eligible, and not for those who are ineligible, and somebody can be ineligible for residency or not being a natural born citizen, or having been involved in insurrection, and the constitution is very clear on that point. when donald trump decided the day after the election, the day after i voted for him that he wanted to disenfranchise 80 million voters, voters that are my fellow americans. when he decided to do that, and continued to push the false narrative to the point of inciting violence on our capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power, i knew i had to do something. i'm proud of our effort. obviously i'm disappointed with today's rulings but i would have done it again. i would do it again in a heart beat. >> you liken trying to do this, to bring this lawsuit, by putting a bell on a cat. can you explain that metaphor to me, and explain is there another way, in your opinion, to put the bell on the cat now that the supreme court has said no. >> the old fable, which is that the mice get together and decide that because the cat is a danger for them, if they could get bell on the cat and her him coming, they could save lives. no one was willing to put the bell on the cat. i was thinking about among other things, that particular fable. we needed republicans to step up. step up and bell that cat. it wasn't just republicans. it was republicans, independents, litigants and several democrats, an amazing grook group of lawyers that worked for us were republicans, democrats, independents, this was very very bipartisan. my disappointment with the court among others things is they said only congress can be the one that enforces this provision. if you look at congress right now, it is incredibly partisan. they basically handed a very big duty to a very very partisan group of people, who will more often than not act in their own self-interest. in contrast to what we tried to do, seeking good for everyone. >> talk to me about that, there's no federal body or federal judge that can take away the ability of somebody found to be an insurrectionist into office. the only remedy is congress itself. >> obviously that's a distressing place to end up. i think one of the things that was most significant about this decision was what it doesn't have. you had nine justices writing, not a single one in there exonerated donald trump for engaging in insurrection. there's not a sentence in there that said that he don't do it, and donald trump asked them to take that position. they pointedly chose not to do that. so we still are in a place that everybody, every decision making body that has substantively looked at it has found that donald trump engaged in insurrection. what the supreme court did do was essentially take out the enforcement mechanism that would allow states to enforce that, at least if we look at what the concurring justices say. the supreme court may have taken out federal court's ability, and even congress's nonlegislative ability to enforce this. now we're in a situation where as we can very clearly save from everyone who's looked at this, donald trump engaged in insurrection to try to keep himself into power after losing an election, but nobody can do anything about it, and that sends it back to congress. congress could become functional or to the american people to essentially enforce what the constitution mandates. >> do you have confidence in this court? >> you know, i will say that this court, that i was pleased that this court did not go in some of the really dangerous directions they could have gone like to try to find some way to say that donald trump didn't engage in insurrection or excuse presidents, excuse presidents who hadn't served in office, which is basically a donald trump only exception. these are the dangerous paths that donald trump wanted them to take that they didn't. ultimately, institution after institution has been kind of stepping aside instead of using the tools available to protect the democracy from those who could attack it again. i think it's disappoint, this court chose to be the next institution to not step out when it could have. that's disappointing. >> what about you, krista? >> obviously i respect the court. like noah, i'm concerned they sort of dodged their responsibility to uphold the constitution. i think this is -- you know, i've always like the originalest and textualist approach to the constitution that we look at what the words say and what the words mean, not on the potential effect. in departing from that originalist, jurisprudence, this court decided, hey, we're going to rule on the effect, not the actual words of the constitution. in a sense, i'm empathetic, it would have been disruptive. on one hand, in acting not for us, it would no longer be disruptive. i believe it will become more dangerous. this sort of gives a green flag to any would be officer of the law, somebody who holds that high office, who decides they don't like the result of an election, decides to foment insurrection and violence. this decision gives them a bit more of a green light to say, hey, there's no downside, unless congress acts, i can act in this way. >> thank you very much for joining us. and still ahead, what benjamin netanyahu's chief political rival is doing at the white house today with vice president harris. and what it could signal for netanyahu's hold on power in israel. first, though what women are saying about their lives under donald trump, and what president biden is hearing. footlong at subway. just buy any footlong in the app and get one free. just scan the qr code and enter promo code flbogo. it only works from the other side of the screen, buddy. you still got a land line in your house. order now in the subway app. ( ♪ ♪ ) start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand. okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. 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>> reporter: it really leaves the door open for nikki haley to do in her words whatever she thinks is right at the time. that's not something she says she's actively thinking about now because haley's head is still squarely in running this race, and that is still true even though the landscape is a very difficult one for her. it's an up hill climb. the reason she says she's still in it because of voters like these, we met over the weekend in super tuesday states, they don't want trump. they don't want biden. they just want an alternative. watch. >> i'm not comfortable with either of those choices. i don't think it's good for america. >> i will not vote for someone who i don't think is competent or nice. >> i won't vote. >> can you tell me why? >> because i don't feel like my voice will really count. neither side represents, at least neither extreme represents my feelings, my believes, and i just couldn't vote for either one right now. >> reporter: now, look, katy, haley has ruled out running as a third party candidate. she says she's a republican and she's going to continue to run as one. how long is the question, especially with super tuesday tomorrow. haley doesn't have any more public events. this is the last time we expect to see her publicly, at least for right now, and said she's spending tomorrow in and around her hometown of charleston. unclear what happens next. >> when haley is talking about voters that are not welcome at the republican party any longer, you heard ali vitali interviewed, how much of a problem is that going to be. she argues and she argued this to you in an interview, guess what, at the end of the day, you can't win without everybody. what do you make of that? >> well, i think that's where the conversation around nikki haley needs to focus, right, because she's lost all but one primary, the washington, d.c., republican primary and donald trump is on a march to the nomination. the key, though, is what do all of these traditional reagan era republican voters, unhappy with both candidates, but in particular, don't feel welcome in the republican party. i have interviewed over the course of the last several months is a number of haley voters, one of the things they talk about is not just i don't know what to do about voting in 2024, i don't like trump, they don't feel welcomed generally in the party as it's constituted under trump, and that has to do with him and his supporters, at least his most ardent supporters. and look, we know that president joe biden has problems with his coalition, and we see it in polling. this is a very volatile election cycle, and donald trump is also going to need all elements of what we think of as the traditional broad republican coalition, and there's no guarantee right now that he's going to get it, and that could be a problem for him down the line, if in fact, voters don't come home the way they usually do. that's when they feel really good about the candidate at the end of the day, and their policies. these are things they don't feel about trump or his agenda. >> i want to ask you about something i saw in the "new york times" and the new poll over the weekend, "the new york times" sienna poll that showed that former president trump was ahead of president biden. there was an interesting poll out about women. women are 20 percentage points more likely to say trump's policies have helped them despite the fact that mr. trump installed supreme court justices that overturned the right to an abortion and about 2/3 of women in america think abortion should be legal in all or most instances. the biden team seems to be relying on abortion among, you know, democracy, threats to democracy, as a real motivating issue, especially for women. how might that read, and have you had an experience with that in talking to voters on the trail? >> reporter: these numbers were fascinating. i have a hard time believing and frankly democrats and republicans alike have said this to me, i have a hard time to believe trump and biden are tied with women voters because of the abortion issue because we've seen this at the ballot box. it doesn't necessarily show up in polls. we have seen when abortion is on the ballot, pro choice advocates, polls right now are important, instructive, especially when they show trend lines. that's one i have to see more information around. women might be saying that trump's policies might have helped them more, women are the ones who generally control the purse strings of a family. they are usually the economic heads of house. so it strikes me if the economy is the top issue, maybe that's why women voters are saying they prefer the trump era. that being said, and this is incumbent on the biden administration, right, to show, not tell that inflation is getting better, to show not tell that the economy is in a better place in its post covid rebound. all of that is something we know. democrats hem and hau over all the time, and they need to do a better job of it heading into the election cycle. again, i think my consistent thread i'm watching in the election cycle is the way that women, young women and angry women mobilize around abortion. we don't need to see that now but that's something that will come out over the summer. >> ali vitali, david drucker, thank you very much, we appreciate it. and what vice president harris is doing by meeting with a netanyahu rival at the white house right now. ahu rival at the house right now. gland's best. taste so fresh and amazing. deliciously superior nutrition, too. for us, it's eggs any style. as long as they're the best. eggland's best. if you're living with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis or active psoriatic arthritis, symptoms can sometimes take you out of the moment. now there's skyrizi, so you can show up with clearer skin... ...and show it off. ♪ nothing is everything ♪ with skyrizi, you could take each step with 90% clearer skin. and if you have psoriatic arthritis, skyrizi can help you get moving with less joint pain, stiffness, swelling, and fatigue. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine, or plan to. thanks to skyrizi, there's nothing like clearer skin and less joint pain, and that means everything. ♪ nothing is everything ♪ ask your doctor about how skyrizi could help with your skin or joint symptoms. learn how abbvie could help you save. 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>> reporter: that's not something the white house addressed whether this was something that benny gantz didn't, you know, deliberately chose not to make the prime minister netanyahu aware of, and the white house has been pretty certain about not wanting to get involved in any of the politics that are going on inside israel. at the same time, there's been this real push to make sure that the u.s. has been clear on what it wants to see done, particularly as it relates to helping the palestinians who are in gaza right now stuck between the fighting with israel and hamas. >> aaron gilchrist, thank you very much. the atlantic staff writer and msnbc contributor yair rosenberg. it's good to have you. kamala harris's words are in line with what the white house has been saying. her tone was different. she was much more forceful, much angieier. what do you make of the insistence she said the words yesterday, and secondly, the meeting with benny gantz, as we mentioned with aaron, it appears benjamin netanyahu according to the reporting of "the times of israel" is not happy about it, his main political rival. can you give us context about him being here without netanyahu? >> those are two excellent questions. to the first one, kamala harris gets up there and gives a speech and says some new things and says some old things, and a lot of people mistook one for the other. they weren't familiar with the details in the negotiations over the truth and hostage deal for gaza. there has been a deal on the table for some time now that the israelis have agreed to in principle, according to reports but hamas has not, which would get hostages out. some hostages not all, and get aid into gaza, and president biden has said repeatedly that this deal would then allow them to try to build something more lasting and enduring. that's what kamala harris repeated very very explicitly and clearly, when she spoke. that wasn't actually new. what was new is the way she talked in great detail about the suffering of the gazan people and the need for more humanitarian aid, as you said, in a forceful way. and also how she talked about eliminating how israel has a right to eliminate the threat from hamas, which is different than saying, eliminating hamas all together. that was interesting language. i think sometimes people missed what was new and what was interesting in favor of the words immediate cease fire. she was saying an immediate cease fire that hamas needs to agree to. that was slightly different than what people thought. benny gantz, meeting the important officials in the white house, you can't miss the symbolism of him doing a trip, which was not coordinated with netanyahu. for watchers who don't realize, after october 7th, israel did not rally around benjamin netanyahu, in fact, abandoned him in the polls. he's lost like half of his vote share in the polls, and most of it has gone to benny gantz, this centrist lawmaker who's whole thing is we're going to have less extreme politics. gantz joined the government to moderate it and steer the country during a time of emergency. if the elections were held today, he would win them by a significant margin, and so undoubtedly the biden administration wants to talk to the guy who might be the next prime minister of israel and netanyahu wants to prevent gantz from looking like the next prime minister of israel. so you have a lot of these tensions going on underneath the surface of this meeting? >> does it signal anything about what might be to come for israel? i know you mentioned that gantz would win an election if there were one held. does it appear that netanyahu's coalition might be fracturing to soon? arguing in foreign affairs that he needs to go, that he is hopelessly conflicted, that he acquiesces to the biden administration, saying yes, there's going to be a two-state solution and loses the far right coalition that's keeping him in office or he, you know, bends to the far right and continues this campaign in gaza that is rapidly losing the support of the international community. >> so the challenge for israel right now is that if you look at the polls, like 2/3 of israelis want netanyahu to go. some want him to resign. now, some of them want him to resign after the war is done, which is a challenging question when that is. very few people want him to remain prime minister, and as i said in the polls, he would lose an election if held. he has no obligation to hold an election, unless his coalition falling apart, and the paradox, terrible polls for the coalition, and the polls are terrible for the right wing coalition, is that they have every incentive not to break up the coalition. they know if they do and they go into an election, they will end up with far less seats, less power, and they will not be in the government anymore. paradoxically, the fact that the government is toxically unpopular is what's holding it together. there are tensions, there are domestic issues in israel on the ultra orthodox, a certain religious community in israel that doesn't get drafted into the army. and that's causing real tensions inside netanyahu's government, and it could lead to it falling apart for completely different reasons that has nothing to do with the war, but we're a ways from that. i think it's the american administration, if you had them behind closed doors and asked them, they would actually like to see this government fall apart, and they're happy to poke at various sore spots. biden has been publicly criticizing far right politicians in netanyahu's government. he has imposed sanctions on radical violent settlers in the west bank. they are the constituents of netanyahu's far right flank in the government. puts him in a difficult spot that he has to go along with what the americans do. and it raises tensions within it. so i think there's absolutely a desire with israel and outside israel to move on, the question is what the mechanism would be. >> that is the question. i have asked the administration privately f they're preparing for maybe a benny gantz in the future, somebody that they can negotiate with in a two-state solution, and they declined to say that they're preparing for anything other than dealing with benjamin netanyahu. really good to have you. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. and after the break, progressive politics are getting punchy in california. jacob soboroff joins us with what to watch for in the race for dianne feinstein's open senate seat. and what jobs the university of florida just got rid of. 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