headquarters here at 30 rockefeller center. donald trump's eldest son goes under oath in the $250 million civil fraud trial against the former president and his family business. donald trump junior took the stand late today in a new york courtroom, and before he testified managed to do what he loves to do most, crack a joke. >> i should've worn makeup. >> today, prosecutors focused on his job running the trump family business with his younger brother eric, a role his father announced before entering the white house back in 2017. >> my two sons, who are right here, don and eric, are going to be running the company. they are going to be running it in a very professional manner. they are not going to discuss it with me. these papers are just some of the many documents that i've signed turning over complete and total control to my sons. >> donald trump jr. is not just a witness in the case, he is also a defendant, along with his brother and his dad. and we see's laura jarred has more on today's testimony. >> tonight, the former president's eldest son inside a manhattan courtroom. donald trump junior, the first of his siblings to testify in a $250 million civil law fraud lawsuit against the family's real estate business. new york's attorney general accusing the republican front runner, his sons, and his company of inflating assets to get better terms on loans and insurance. pointing to don junior's signature on documents certifying the accuracy of the company's financial statements, which include assets like mr. trump's apartment in manhattan, listed as 30,000 square feet when it is actually a third of that size. today, he was pressed by the state about his role as executive vice president of the trump organization. don jr. saying he relied on outside accountants who prepare the financial statements. he said blasted the suit from the democratic attorney general and the judge, also a democrat, as a partisan kangaroo court. >> it doesn't matter what general practices the business would be, it doesn't matter, they have a narrative, they have an end goal, and they will do whatever it takes to get there. >> the judge has already ruled in the state's favor on the central fraud claim, much of the trial is to determine what, if any, punishment should be handed down. meanwhile, the former president has said he's done nothing wrong, and again slamming the judge, posting, quote, leave my children alone. >> donald trump jr. is expected to return to the stand tomorrow. eric trump is also slated to testify on thursday. the former president is set to appear on monday. and right now, his daughter ivanka is set to testify next wednesday. meanwhile, a federal judge in florida is considering giving trump exactly what he wants, delaying his upcoming assified documents trial. it's supposed to begin on may 20th, but trump, no surprise, wants it postponed until after the 2024 election. with that, let's get smart with the help of our leadoff panel. carol leonig is here, pulitzer prize-winning investigative reporter with the washington post, david fahrenthold, a new york times investigative reporter who won a pulitzer for the truth behind trump's charitable donations. and former u.s. attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. okay, joyce. the judge here in new york has already ruled this is a fraud. the judge ruled in advance of trial that the corporate fraud was established. that is no longer needed to be considered. but there is still six separate charges that involve false statements that were made, when fraudulent statements were submitted to banks. so the judge is evaluating that. but remember, steph, he also has this overarching question of how much of their ill gotten gains the trumps will have to discourage of. new york city tierney generals asking for $250 million. and part of the testimony is evidence the judge can consider when arriving at a number. >> let's say the judge comes up with a number. when will donald trump actually have to write the check and pay it. i want to know, as he written e. jean carroll the check for $5 million? even though, whatever, $10, 000, whatever thousand dollars tied to his gag orders, is he actually writing these checks? is it actually happening? >> so, e. jean carroll first, that's an unusual situation because normally when someone loses in the trial or wants to take an appeal, they have to file an appeal bond. but for whatever reason, donald trump couldn't get one or didn't get one, and he actually wrote a check for that amount that is sitting in escrow, waiting for the outcome of the appeal. something that is similar that would happen, here if you wanted to appeal, this is of course understate procedures, not federal. it is a different bit. who it either have to get on the appeal bond or write a check for the entire amount. so in that sense, steph, there is some immediacy. but of course, in the e. jean carroll case, that money is not sitting in e. jean carroll's bank account yet. >> all right, david, you have covered the family business. better than anyone i know. what did you think was the key part of junior's testimony today? besides his cute joke about makeup, which he may have been wearing, we don't know. >> well, the only real substance they got to today was this question of what his input was into these financial statements that they had been found to be wrong and fraudulent. and what donald trump junior has said was, well, yeah, i signed them, but i didn't know it was in, them i trust that there would be taken care of. that is important to me because there is sort of two totally divergent strands of argument that the trumps are making. on the one hand, donald trump is saying, look, yes, i provided these numbers to the accountants and they passed them on to lenders and other people. but there was a clause saying that they were just my numbers and they should go check them or themselves. some donald trump jr.'s is saying the opposite. but it was the accountants, it was the other people he trusted to provide these numbers, and none of them came from him. i don't think you can argue that both ways, that is the accountants fault or the accountants do nothing for very long. that seems to be what they are trying. >>, okay i'm sorry, i'm gonna run a, time but i have to go back to joyce. joyce, isn't that the reason you sign a document. right? if you didn't have to sign it, then the accountants would just do their things and they would mail it in. but the point of signing on the dotted line, saying i agree that everything here is factually correct and i accept the liability, isn't that the point of signing one's name? >> absolutely, it is. they're trying to have it both ways here. this is not a judge that will let them get away with it. you know, steph, the theme that underlies this whole case is this notion we have a financial system that works because banks can have confidence that when businesses submit these sorts of documents they can be relied upon. the trumps try to turn that on their head and they say everybody does it, everybody knew they were bad numbers, so there's really no harm, no foul here. that's just not how any of this works. >> there is harm. there is foul. they were lying about the law of the business to get more favorable terms from banks, yeah, there's harm. carol, prosecutors in this case revealed evidence that our colleague andrew weissmann said can be hugely important both jack smith and fani willis. what's it mean to their cases? what is he talking about? >> sorry, i could read that fast enough, i think it had something to do with winning the election. try me again, steph. >> so andrew weissmann is saying that the prosecutor put forth that jack smith and fani willis are going to go crazy for, what could it be? >> i really have no idea other than -- >> basically he knew that he didn't win the election. >> right. but i mean, so much other evidence. i usually agree with andrew about so many things. but there's so much other information to let us know that donald trump knew he didn't win the election, not least of which great reporting by the washington post and the new york times, colleagues of mine, including david, talk more about how, you know, when he was speaking with some of his most important advisers after the election, he said could you believe i didn't win pennsylvania? could you believe i didn't win in georgia? i mean, he literally said that to kellyanne conway. so we had some instinct and knowledge and awareness when he was in private that this is not really the way it goes. of course, there's something else jack smith has which is that every single person donald trump relied on to give him advice about -- you know, as donald trump jr. said, that's what we pay him for, that's why we have cpas. well, donald trump paid a lot of people and hired a lot of people to advise him on his campaign. and indeed, every single one of them told him that he had lost. the only person i can think of that didn't tell him, or i should say, that we don't have proof that he told him that he lost was mark meadows. that's the only person i can think of. his campaign lawyers over and over again told him. as attorney general, who had broken precedent to investigate possible fraud in the election before the election was certified, something the department of justice never does, his attorney general told him i'm sorry, sir, this fraud that you're claiming didn't happen, and if there was any election mistake or fraud, it's too small to have changed it in your favor. >> david, donald trump's image and his business are tied together. his children are involved in this case. what's at stake for all of them? >> well, there's sort of two levels of what's at stake. on a practical level, if we've been talking about potentially large fines. justice -- said he actually wants to cancel the business certificates of these businesses trump owns in new york. that would not be an immediate process, but could lead to a process where he'd lose control of trump tower, of the many other office buildings in new york, the golf courses. so there's a practical concern there, they could lose the heart of their business in new york. it wouldn't be a fatal blow to the trump organization but certainly would change it a lot. the other level is the psychological level, which is this idea that all along we saw trump build this career on the apprentice, became an icon of business savvy, that he was lying about a lot of it, that he was making a lot of a top. certainly, there's been a lot of evidence that comes out already. but this would be a regal judgment all in one place when you see how much of trump's empire was basically just imaginary, imagine assets, imagine value that he threw out there and got people to believe for a long time, now we're able to see behind that. i think that's almost as damaging to him as whatever properties he might lose. >> carol, new topic. trump's classified documents case, judge aileen cannon, a trump appointed judge who many people believed it's quite friendly to the former president, she's now weighing a delay in the trial. i mean, if that isn't a grand slam home run for him, i don't know what it is. >> no, i think pretty much every lawyer who's been on your show, and i'm going to have to count a choice in this category, as basically personalist that this would happen. you, know every single person has been watching closely for what judge cannon would do, especially because she leaned so hard against the law, according to every appellate judge who look at this, every prosecutor who looked at it, she leaned against the law to basically stop a criminal investigation in progress involving classified records. just to remind when she did that, classified records are the property of the federal government. she has no role in deciding whether or not classified documents should or should not be reviewed by the government. that's their property. so when she did that, she cast a huge shadow over her reputation as a -- basically as a person that knows the law. does she know the law if she can go that far in donald trump's favor? and i think a lot of lawyers were hoping that she would be somewhat embarrassed by that moment and she would carefully think through whether or not her decisions leaned again and donald trump's favor. yet here in this instance, we don't know her motive, we don't know her intention, but she's leaning hard in his favor. and pushing against the national security division lawyer today, who basically said, you know, we can do this, judge, we have all the records, we've got all the stuff. the defense for trump says it's so voluminous we can't do it. by may 2024, we can do it. and she said i just don't really believe you. >> wow. all right, joyce, you topic, the new york times is reporting that if donald trump were to get the nomination and if he were to win, his allies want him to choose lawyers who will embrace a more radical agenda. and i want to remind our audience here is what some of his former administration lawyers told the january 6th committee about his efforts to overturn the election. watch this. >> i made it clear i did not agree with the idea of saying the election was stolen and putting out the stuff, which i told the president was bowl [bleep]. and you know, i didn't want to be a part of it. that's one of the reasons i went into deciding to leave and i did. >> it's fair to say that agreed with attorney general barr and attorney general barr's conclusion on december 1st, yes, i did, and i supported that conclusion. >> what they were proposing i thought was not. hugo travis in venezuela, gets enough data from someone who says -- was in, something in the philippines, just all over the radar. >> so if those lawyers, if those lawyers were not on board with trump, what kind of people could we see in a second trump white house? >> this is one of the most frightening stories that i've read. and as someone who teaches and works in the area of democracy, i think this is a foundational threat to the future of this country. because donald trump would impose a litmus test for lawyers. it would have nothing to do with confidence or good judgment or even taking an oath to the constitution. this would be the question that he asked of jim comey before he fired him as director of the fbi, what i need from you as loyalty. that is what he would seek from every lawyer in the executive branch. and what this means is that the justice department, the power of prosecution would become a prerogative of president donald trump. he would exercise prosecutions as a way to punish his enemies. he would and prosecutions to reward his friends. nothing is more oppositional to the future of the democratic country then to give over this power to donald trump. it's really interesting that stephen miller, not a lawyer, who worked for jeff sessions, and when he fell out of favor with trump, miller stayed with trump, that he's one of the reported masterminds behind this team. this has nothing to do with supporting good government or the constitution, and everything to do with installing an autocratic leader. >> it just takes me back to jim comey and his book, looking to hide and camouflage himself into the curtains because he did not want to have to answer -- his lawyer, his guy, remember, trump and his generals? carol leonnig, david fahrenthold, joyce vance, great, great to see you all. when we come back, speaker mike johnson's israel aid bill includes cuts to the irs that would add billions to the deficit and hook up super wealthy tax evaders. you know elizabeth warren has a lot to say about this. she's here next. and later, the first civilians leave gaza, crossing the border into egypt. ben rhodes is here on that, and what is next for israel's ground offensive. the 11th hour just getting underway on a busy wednesday night. ♪ ♪ ♪ ther programs i've tried in the past they were unsustainable, just too restrictive. with golo i can enjoy my food and the fear and guilt of eating is gone. c'mon, we're right there. c'mon baby. it's the only we need. go, go, go, go! ah! touchdown baby! -touchdown! are your neighbors watching the same game? yeah, my 5g home internet delays the game a bit. but you get used to it. try these. they're noise cancelling earmuffs. i stole them from an airport. it's always something with you, man. great! solid! -greek salad? exactly! don't delay the game with verizon or t-mobile 5g >> the house is expected to home internet. catch it on the xfinity 10g network. vote this week on the gop's new proposal to fund aid to israel by slashing the irs budget. well, there's a new report from the congressional budget office that said this bill would add 26 police to the deficit. so let's discuss. i am joined now by democratic senator elizabeth warren of massachusetts. senator i am so glad you are here and i want to start on this very subject. because this idea that some of your colleagues have to slash the irs ' budget to pay for funding to israel, according to the irs commissioner, the money they want to take is money that goes directly to studying, to going after tax evaders, the richest tax evaders in this country. and he says that we would be leaving money on the table if we just let them get off. >> exactly right. look, this is nothing more than a cynical plot by the republicans to try to exploit the hamas terrorist bombings. to see if they can hook onto that, their longtime desire to let the wealthiest tax cheats get away free. and we just can't let that happen. the best estimate from the irs is that for every dollar spent on going after those wealthy tax cheats, the american public gets about $6 back in money collected. i don't know many places where you can get that kind of 6 to 1 ratio, but my view is that we need to make the wealthy tax cheats pay their fair share. . and we need the republicans to come with us on a serious plan for the funding that needs to be done in the supplemental bill. >> use the war to hookup tax cheats. then i want to ask about the war in ukraine, because other colleagues of yours that want to pull money from support to ukraine are arguing that we shouldn't spend that money over here, we should be spending it over there and we should be spending it here. do they understand that if putin wins this war against ukraine, he won't be done. he will cost the u.s. significantly more when he goes to expand? >> that is exactly the right way to look at this. this is putin seeing how far he can go. and if he can over run ukraine, he has no intention of stopping their. this is a time when we need to stick with our allies, all across europe, the allies across the world where there to try to support ukraine. we need to be doing our part and that. the ukrainians are on the ground fighting their hearts out. i was just there in august. they make inch by inch by inch progress. they are pushing russia back. and that's exactly what we need to support them to do. that is in their interest. but it is also in our long term interests. >> are you hopeful that there will be a proposal that will get the aid to israel and ukraine that's needed? >> yes. and our plan right now is to keep those married to each other, so that both of them go forward together. and i want to be clear, it's not just democrats who do that, we actually have some republicans that are strong on that in the senate as well. we just need the house to sober up and the house leadership to get serious, stop playing games, let's get an emergency funding bill that is the emergency funding bill that our nation needs. >> i want to ask you about our complicated economy, because the truth is experts predicted that right now we would be in a pretty awful recession. but we're not. the economies actually picked up. unemployment is at 3.8. however, life is not easy here. inflation is still a problem. and life is expensive. people don't feel good about the economy. and saying to them, well, we could've or should've been in a recession doesn't make them feel better. so how should the administration address this, because you know the economy is a top thing that people vote on? >> absolutely. but you know, i want to make a slightly different point here. right now with the very high interest rates that the fed has imposed, jerome powell has made life more expensive for many americans. you have to remember this part of it. the cost of buying a home, the cost of renting, nobody is going to invest in building more housing, all because of high interest rates. it's more expensive to buy a car because of high interest rates, more expensive if you carry a balance on your credit card. so we've got this really high interest rate environment. and today, the fed decided not to raise interest rates more, which i think is the right thing to do. but listen to what jerome powell said. he still talked about that maybe we need more softening of the labor economy, which is just fed speak for saying we need to push people out of work. i think that is the wrong way to approach this economy. here, i want to give big props to the president of the united states. because what he has done is first he has invested in america. that's why this economy is so strong. largest infrastructure package that we have had for decades, a big investment in the climate fight. by the way, paid for by a 15% minimum corporate tax. and then, this president has gone after junk fees. and you know, junk fees sound like a little thing, they're not a little thing. they are something that has taken a bite out of america's middle class working families here, a bite their. so we're talking about everything from fees on concert tickets to fees on check overdrafts to fees on credit cards. the president and his administration are trying to put a koch on the beat, trying to say we're not going to have that stuff going on anymore. what you see is what you're going to pay. the latest on that has been now around retirement. the presidents administration has put forward a new rule, fiduciary rule, that says the retirees are not going to have to pay junk fees. people can roll that money into retirement accounts. >> senator, what mention be done to address inflation. and chair powell doesn't have a lot of other tools. >> let's keep in mind that inflation has come down substantially. but you always have to make sure what tool you're using addresses the problem that you've got. why has inflation come down -- why hasn't inflation gone down so steadily even though unemployment has gone up, as jerome powell try to push this county towards? it's partly because what were the reasons that prices went up. how big one of course was the supply chain kinks. another one has been corporate price gouging. another has been rise in commodity prices, partly with the war in ukraine, which we found ways around it now, partly in energy. so there are a lot of factors that jerome powell has admitted to me in the hearings, that raising the interest rates will not affect, but they do affect inflation overall. as those wind down, we've seen inflation come down. and that is the right thing. you know, we can't just keep raising costs for consumers and saying, as jerome powell has tried to do, he wants to put people out of work, because that's how he wants to bring down inflation. it hasn't worked that way so far, and i don't think it's going to work that way in the future. >> and the good news is, the labor market is very strong right now. we just all through the autoworkers of a deal done, which is good news. senator, thank you for joining me tonight, i appreciate it. >> good to see you. >> great to see you. ♪ ♪ ♪ coming up, the rafah crossing opens for the first time, giving hundreds hope of escaping the war between israel and hamas. we'll talk about the effort to get americans out when the 11th hour continues. ♪ ♪ ♪ cash. you think those two have any idea? 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[sound of gunfire] and israeli ground troops pushing deeper into the strip, closing in around gaza city in their effort to crush hamas. the military says these weapons were used in hamas ' october 7th massacre, where 1400 israelis were killed. assault rifles, machine guns, rocket propelled grenades like this, this is just a hamas has inside gaza. >> [speaking in a global language] >> israel's prime minister repeating his pledge, no cease-fire until hamas is defeated. but as the death toll in gaza rises, so is international pressure on israel. doesn't have a truck did cross into gaza today, but nowhere near enough. and israel still blocking fuel deliveries, saying the gas will be stolen by hamas. and with every hour, fears for the hostages growing, with hamas still refusing to release them. in new york, holocaust survivors holding photos of the hostages. >> so i feel very, very attached to all those innocent people who are being captured. >> survivors of the jewish people's darkest hours sending strength to those being held in darkness in gaza. >> joining me tonight, ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser for president obama. ben, thank you for being here. how significant is it to at least see some people finally getting out of gaza? >> it's significant, in the in the sense that the potential indication of where diplomacy could lead to going forward. so for instance, you saw in the statement that the white house put it about this release of people from gaza, they thank the governments of qatar and egypt. i think that gives you a sense of what the diplomatic processe is behind the scenes, in the sense that qatar does have connections to hamas leadership and can be a conduit for negotiation to get people out of gaza with hamas. egypt mans that border crossing, the rafah border crossing a needs to allow people out by opening it. and they don't want to allow any significant number of palestinian refugees. so therefore, it's a very specific kind of negotiation. what you would hope, stephanie, is that this suggests that we can get all of the americans out, at least, the five hundreds or so americans that are trapped in gaza, and then also is the same channel of negotiation that you would be using to release the hostages, so i think we will see intensified diplomacy in the coming days to see if that same constellation of actors and countries can get from these hostages out, as well as getting some of the americans out. >> i want to talk about that. because tonight the president told a protester he thinks a pause is needed, i want to use his words, give time to get the prisoners out. prisoners meaning hostages. is he saying a temporary cease-fire? >> well, there are diplomatic terms of art here. i think a pause is usually for a minimal amount of time. it can be as little as six, eight hours, to get some aid in our to effectuate the release of some people. i think what people in the arab world want is a more significant pause of several days so that the aid that you can get into gaza is truly significant. i mean, the trucks that are going in now are not even as many trucks as used to go in before the war started. and obviously the needs are much, much greater. so the question is, is it a pause to just allow some pretty modest aid deliveries, and perhaps to allow for the trend for some people out through that rafah crossing? or do you try to have a more substantial pause here for a period of several days to try to negotiate something bigger to get those hostages out and to try to have a more comprehensive aid delivery into gaza? and frankly, also to pause the humanitarian suffering that is taking place. so the scale of what the administration supports in terms of a cessation of hostilities for a period of time, it's still not clear. based on the language they've used, it strikes me that this is more about short term pauses, not something that resembles a cease-fire. >> the idf says they responded to incoming fire from terrorist groups in lebanon. how worried are you about a wider conflict? is it about when or if at this point? >> i am very worried about it, to tell you the truth. i do think that one of the risks of the israeli operation as it goes forward is if you see this continued destruction in gaza and this continued scale of civilian casualties, day by day, hezbollah and lebanon will feel more compelled to get involved in the north, you will see it escalation there. there is also the risk that the west bank explodes in violence. and some of that is frankly being initiated by israeli settlers, as well as palestinians hitting israelis. and you could even see unrest in parts of the arab world, and potentially attacks on embassies and things of that nature. there is a risk for this whole region to become drawn into this conflict. and obviously, the maximum escalation would be of iran and israel end up in some kind of posture as well. iran has proxies in iraq, they have proxies in yemen, as well as lebanon. so we should bear in mind that there is a risk of significant escalation here. i think that is why the administration in trying to get these really govern to be cautious in how it proceeds, to be mindful of issues around civilian casualties, and perhaps to leave some space for negotiation and humanitarian pauses, as the president is saying tonight. then, thank you so much, it's always great to have you here. when we come back, my special one on one, the amazing henry winkler. we talk all about the world as we know it, his life advice, and of course, the fonz, when the 11th hour continues. e 11th hour continues. with cirkul, your water is deliciously flavored at the turn of a dial, with zero sugar and zero calories. and cirkul has over 40 flavors, so your water can be as unique as you are. try cirkul. your water, your way. now with even more flavors. available at walmart or drinkcirkul.com. 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>> the fonz. >> okay. i am a candle. and i, like a moron, look at him with sincerity. i see my name's henry. would you like it if i called you ralph? i am now arguing with a four year old about not being typecast. >> and stacey let you in? >> she was in there getting ready. she was -- she didn't, thank god, she didn't hear it. >> but you change. i mean, you talk about in the book, there is an extraordinary moment where you meet a young woman with autism. and she says fonz! and it was the first time she spoke a word. is that when you realize the power? >> no, i realized it before. but this was a whole other kettle of fish. this little girl said, in the same voices jed, it was amazing, hello fonz. and her mother devolved. i said what happened? i didn't see anything. and she said my daughter just said her first word. >> ever. >> and now part of my profession is be publicly. when i was the chairman, honorary chairman for the special olympics, there was not one athlete who did not surround me at ucla out there, their annual meeting, and they were the fonz. >> they love arthur fawns rally? >> they loved him. and they literally son, they were all the phones. >> [laughter] you just said it, he just did it all for us. >> let me tell you something, stephanie, i tell you, the fonz is not so about you. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> oh, my god, i can't believe that just happened. >> but when i'm lying in bed on 78th street in broadway dreaming will this ever happen, and then i get to play this character. and then this happens because i play the character. remember, i started with six lines. and i get to play a character. and this happens. and then you think, it is, it is bigger than you, this is bigger than you. >> there is something else i want to talk about. the last time we spoke, i talked about politics. how you thought it was important to have a voice. things have taken a turn since we spoke last. >> in this country? >> in this country, in the world. there's not one but two wars going on. >> right. >> your own mother and father escape not see germany. >> right. >> it's so important for you in your life to spread love and positivity and joy. how do you feel about this heat spreading right now? and why is it? >> you know, it almost feels like it is out of our control, it's getting to be out of our control. >> are you scared? >> i am petrified. i am petrified mostly for the, for my grandchildren, for their friends who come to the house for sleep overs. >> there are good people doing great things every single day. >> yes, yes. >> are you surprised by this extraordinary rise in hate in antisemitism? >> no. i, i knew it was just a matter of time. >> when you look back on your life, your career, or even in the present, how do you live your life now? what is your one piece of advice? for people, for young people starting out as they're looking at the world as you once were? >> i now know that the power comes from people being who they are, being authentic. you know, people have asked me over the years, so you play it cool. how are you cool? what's cool? hey, and i don't have an answer. and find a struck me, school is being dynamically you. it is a magnetic but when you meet somebody and you just know that you are meeting the authentic body, person in that body. and if we did that, we wouldn't have to worry about banning books or -- we would teach our children that you will figure it out, you will read it, and you will know, yes, i can do that. >> so your life advice is you do you, and well. wow. henry, thank you so so much, i appreciate this. >> be yourself and eat well. coming up, speaking of the impact of a tv character, we will remembertthew perry, not as chandler bing, but the way he wanted to be remembered, for his message of hope and resilience, when the 11th hour continues. continues. we planned well for retirement, but i wish we had more cash. you think those two have any idea? 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