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it felt like an ambush. >> investigators searched for clues, but what they found, were secrets. a forbidden love affair right in the family. one son sleeping with the other son's wife. >> he said, if i was going to have an affair, he wished it would have been with anybody else except his brother. >> bad blood between brothers -- had that been a motive for murder? and had one kill the other to steal his wife? in court, it all came out, scandalous passions. jealousy, greed, lust. >> he said that he was the black sheep of the family. >> a family saga turns riveting courtroom drama. >> i cried the whole time. >> the time we were saved a call around 3m. >> effingham 9-1-1? >> help, please. >> what's wrong? >> gun. shot. >> you're shot? >> yes. >> where you at? >> the sheriff's office 9-1-1 operator, could barely understand the voice on the other end of the call. >> how did you get shot ma'am? >> i don't know. >> you don't know? >> no. >> andré, get james, 10-18, hurry up. >> the dispatcher, calling for sergeant james to help out. >> where did you get shot at? >> face. >> in your face? >> yes. >> it was difficult to hear what she was saying. you could hear her gargling, due to blood in her throat. >> it sounded as though, she was not the only victim. >> husband. shot. too. >> your husband shot too? >> yes. >> okay, is there anybody else in the house with you besides you and your husband? >> yes. >> who else is in the house with you? >> son. >> your son? >> yes. >> two, possibly, three adult shot in a home, in the middle of the night. >> did he get shot too? or do you not know? >> i don't know. >> you don't know? >> no. >> the female survivor had no idea if the assailant was in the house. >> we weren't sure if it was a home invasion, we weren't sure if it was an accidental discharge of a firearm. >> what is your name sweetie? >> linda. >> linda? >> the sergeant, and other deputies, we're racing to the location. a one storey ranch house, and a heavily wooded area, of side of town. >>there was little to no light outside. it was pitch black. our weapons were already drawn. we weren't sure if the suspect is in the area, still in the woods. we approached the door, and we could hear the sound of a female moaning, what appeared to be pain. >> they could hear her, but were delayed and finding her, because something stop them in their tracks as they entered the kitchen. >> there was an overwhelming smell of gasoline emanating from the house. it was extremely noxious, hard to breathe. the deputy hill slipped on the gasoline, and i had to catch him to prevent him from falling. >> why hadn't the gasoline been torched? was someone trying to lure the cops inside, before striking a match. >> it felt like an ambush. >> they found the woman, slumped on the kitchen floor, behind a table. the woman, linda, still holding her cell phone. the distress call was genuine. and, her injuries were grave. >> she had some sort of, fabric, a towel, on her throat, and it was soaked in blood. i asked her to remove the cloth from her throat so i could get a visual of her injuries. the entire area of her neck here was missing. and she swallowed, you could see her throat moving. >> one victim accounted for. where were the others? >> she didn't know if anyone else was still on the residents. residents. she didn't know if her son, and husband, are still alive. >> with guns drawn, deputies, continued clearing the residents. the information that they yelled back down the hall was as bad as it could get. linda's son, shot dead, in one bedroom. >> he was in the bed, still under the covers. he had an obvious gunshot wound to the face. >> linda's husband, philip, shot dead in their bedroom. >> he had pulled a sheet above his face, and a defensive stance. there was a gunshot wound through the sheet. >> an explosion of horror. three people, gunned down, two fatally, on a quiet road, in a quiet georgia town. now, linda, the lone survivor, was on route to the hospital in grave condition. what had happened in the dark hours of a monday morning in that modest house? peeling back the layers of the mystery would take years. it would leave a family torn apart, and a community devastated but to begin to comprehend what happened, you need to roll back the clock, back to 2008, to a town called springfield, and a family named the heights. >> if i were to ask you what the height family was like, in 2007, what would you say? >> great family. spiritual family. pillars of the community. >> the height family in 2011? >> destroyed. >> what had happened on springfield egypt road? who would want got from people like the heights dead? coming up -- get her, get out and -- >> so, he was a player? >> he was a player. he was going to get the job done. >> the hard charging businessman had had to deal gone bad -- and urgent investigation begins when dateline continues. e continues. ♪ non-drowsy claritin knocks out symptoms from over 200 allergens. without knocking you out. feel the clarity and make today the most wonderful time of the year. live claritin clear. i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. the most wonderful time of the year. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are looking up ♪ ♪ i've got symptom relief ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements at 4 weeks. skyrizi is the first and only il-23 inhibitor for crohn's that can deliver both clinical remission and endoscopic improvement. the majority of people on skyrizi achieved long lasting remission at 1 year. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine or plan to. liver problems may occur in crohn's disease. ask your gastroenterologist how you can take control of your crohn's with skyrizi. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ learn how abbvie could help you save. ♪ it's the most wonderful time of the year ♪ ♪ non-drowsy claritin knocks out symptoms from over 200 allergens. without knocking you out. feel the clarity and make today the most wonderful time of the year. live claritin clear. 1 down, 9 to go. the most wonderful time of the year. hey, what are you doing out here? 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>> he was a player. he was going to get the job done. >> it was a terrific salesman knack he had, even he got the better part of a deal, he left you feeling good about it. >> philip was a guy that loved people, he was a guy that people loved him. he just always made people feel good. he always made you feel like you are special. >> when he wasn't putting in long hours at the office. or serving as president of this board, or director of that bank. he took pure delight in raising the cattle on his land that went back for generations. the property on rural springfield egypt road. but above all, philip heidt like to spend time with his family. linda, his wife of 40 years and his three sons craig, chris and carrie. >> the most important thing is his family. he always wanted his family to be close to each other. he always wanted his family to love each other. >> then came that horrific night in august of 2008, when philip, carrie, and linda heidt were shot in the height home. only linda survived to call 9-1-1 but now she was in serious condition in the hospital. >> i could not believe it, because miss linda and mr. philip, they were really nice people. >> none of the locals wanted to think it had anything to do with the nearby people suspected of cooking meth. and with whom they shared fifth springfield, egypt road. there had been some arrests a while back. residents felt helpless behind crime scene tape, including a cousin. mark. >> it was a horrible day. >> down the road, hundreds gathered for philip and carrie heidt's funeral. cousin mark was a poll bearer for philip. >> it was a full house, we had standing room. but people couldn't get it. it showed how much we were loved, how much people thought of the family. >> double caskets, the tear streaked faces of mourners drawn taught with grief. no one wanted to send the father and son off like this. >> it was terrible, i lost the best friend and a person to talk to. >> james had known carry so well, and for so long. >> he basically was the person that was always worried about everybody else, i reckon. he do anything for you. give you the shirt off his own back. >> family, there were two older brothers. chris. and craig. though carrie would be the one to follow his father into real estate and like his father, carry shared a zest for work and i love a family. >> busy all during the day, meetings at night. running late, watching home. getting the kids baths. but he did looking forward to going home and giving the kids baths. >> he was proud of always being there for his three children, and his wife. robin heidt, someone he had known since high school. >> the only real girlfriend girlfriend he had had was robin. that i'm aware of. >> in high school, robin had been voted class clown. and when the vivaciously girl started dating the quiet, street laced, carrie. some did not see the match. but it worked for them. they got married a year after graduation. >> he loved her from day one. he did everything he could for her. sure did. >> and now carrie and his father phillips violent deaths were a mystery. if only carrie's mother, linda, miss linda to one and all. could help with crucial details. but she could not speak. her lower jaw and neck had been torn up by a shotgun blast. it was questionable whether she would make it. >> based on what we saw on scene, we did not believe that she was going to survive those injuries. they were that serious. >> had she seen the person, or persons who had shot her? would she be able to give a description that could help authorities apprehend the killer, now on the loose? >> coming up. something seemed fishy right from the start. was it obvious what had gone on there to you? >> after looking at the scene, it became obvious. that this scene was staged. >> staged? >> yes. >> when dateline continues. hi. i'd like to tell you about a cashew farmer from mozambique named carlos. carlos used to struggle to provide enough food and education for his family. but then everything changed. technoserve helps farmers like carlos lift themselves out of poverty by building skills, connections and confidence. today, carlos and his family are thriving. and so are his cashews. go to technoserve.org and donate today. it's a different way to make a difference. you're probably not easily persuaded to switch go to t mobile providersd donate for your business. but what if we told you it's possible that comcast business mobile can save you up to 75% a year on your wireless bill versus the big three carriers? 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>> after looking at the scene, it became obvious that the scene was staged. >> staged? >> yes. >> it was meant to look like a robbery. however, nothing was taken of note. there was money left, keys left. >> stuff that would've been easy to grab and get a little money? >> yes sir. >> nothing was disturbed other than the bodies found. >> and the csi team found something else. the way the intruder may have entered the home. the point of entry you found to be? where they wanted you to believe it was where? >> the garage door had a pain glass inside of it. and the glass was broken. and it was made to look like someone had entered the residence through that door. >> it may have looked like the intruders way in, but the curtain on the glass panes was undisturbed. it looked as though no one had pushed inside to grab the door handle. there was a much simpler explanation for how the killer, or killers had gotten in and out. they found the families outside key. it was kept hidden, and was missing from its usual place. >> and there was a key inside the doorway. >> the key that was in the doorway was probably the one that was kept outside? >>one would assume, yes. >> so you're looking at somebody who has at least good working knowledge of that house. >> yes sir. >> strange clues, at a grim scene. in those early morning hours. nothing seemed to be adding up. you have no idea who the shooter is? >> right. >> if they are alone, if there is more than one. >> correct. >> and the one heidt who might know was the wife, linda, who had somehow survived the gunshot to her face. she was recovering, but it would be weeks before investigators could elicit her story. >> her mouth was wired shut due to her injuries. i believe she had some bone graft reconstructive surgeries. skin grafts. it took her a long, long time before she was able to talk to anybody. >> it fell to georgia bureau of investigation special agent john barry to ask the question. are there any cracks? any secrets in the esteemed heidt family? >> at this time we start what we call victimology. and victimology is something where we look at these peoples live, and determine what put them at added risk to -- >> he had to learn more about the patriarch, philip's business in -- the age and started by looking at the core of things, the immediate family. they would be a prime source of information, but something else as well. >> part of the investigation is that everyone is a suspect at this point. >> the detective began his interviews that morning after the family murders, sitting -- chris height. chris told the detective that he had been home with his wife the previous. night she was questioned, and the middle son's story checked out. by then, the crime scene analysts believe the murder weapon was a 12 gauge shotgun, and agent barry search chris home looking for a fire arm. >> he had several guns there. but nothing in my training, or experience, that indicated that any of them had been recently fired. >> next up, the detective. the older brother. craig heidt. >> craig stated that he was watching television shows. hunting and fishing shows. >> he told the gbi man that he had spent the night at himself at a place a half an hour drivers away. a rustic hunting cabin owned by a friend. agent berry drove up to the cabin to search it as well. >> the search of the cabin resulted in not finding any 12 gauge shotguns. >> but investigators did find 12 gauge ammo in the back of craig's truck. three inch magnum shotgun shells. >> he didn't tell me anything because craig heidt was identified as an avid hunter. and was known to turkey hunt. >> two days after the murders, the agent sat down again, with craig heidt at the sheriff's office. >> how is your mama doing? >> she is doing wonderful. >> she is? >> wonderful. >> after the polite formalities, barry posed the difficult question. who would want craig's family dead? >> craig offered this clue. >> the only thing that my father and carey has remotely said anything to me about anything is finances. >> craig may have been referring to the fact that his father philip, and brother carey, like so many others. had recently been spreading the plunging value in the 2008 real estate market. investigators would learn that the father son team of philip and carey ran a business worth millions. but they were heavily invested. land rich? maybe cash poor. had something gone dangerously downhill in philip heidt's empire? there were some complicated partnerships to examine. >> once this happened, there were numerous rumors about who did it. and if the market can do it or was it a professional hit? or did someone local do it. >> and he was a player. he had a lot of interest. how to state money? >> he did. >> and it's not unreasonable for investigators to get a deal to go south there? >> exactly. was this a bad deal that somebody got mad about and came to retaliate for. >> and craig heidt had perhaps another clue to offer detectives. he had been after the family property after the shootings and said that he noticed some of his things missing in the shut out back. including, a 12 gauge firearm. >> the 12 gauge is not there. i have one pair of snakebite boots that are not there. >> could the assailant had stolen those items to commit the crime? but, there was something else gbi agents was starting to get wind of. right rumors around town of a possible skeleton in the heidt family closet. investigators knew it could be nothing or something. but they would have to run down the scuttlebutt before they could move on to other leads. if only one family member would be more candid with them. after all, the rumors were about him. >> have you been totally honest with me throughout this entire investigation? >> yes sir. >> about everything? >> yes sir. >> coming up. >> maybe if i had went in april, to miss london, mr. philip, and carey. this is what's going on. you should do something now. maybe it would not have went to the limit. >> someone who had been keeping a secret. and it was about to come out. when dateline continue. ocks out your worst allergy symptoms including nasal congestion. without knocking you out. feel the clarity and make today the most wonderful time of the year. claritin-d. this isn't charmin! no wonder i don't feel as clean. hurry up dad! i'm trying! this cheap stuff is too thin! here's charmin ultra strong! ahhh! my bottom's been saved! woohoo! with its diamond weave texture, charmin ultra strong cleans better with fewer sheets and less effort. what's everybody waiting for? 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this story that she hadn't told? >> i wish to the stay that i had. maybe they still would be here. >> tina didn't know anything about phillip's financial pressures. or a missing gun from the property. but she did know something about bottled up secrets. some people would later call it, scandalous, what had happened behind the heidt's closed doors. she had began her story with only good things to say about the parents. people she'd known for several years. >> miss linda and mr. philip heidt were very nice people. very carrying people. >> she met the son craig at the veterinarian's office where she worked laid back in 2003. they chatted about the hunting dogs, and she was struck by well mannered he was. >> very nice guy. very polite. just did the yes ma'am, no ma'am, thank you for helping me. that kind of person. >> craig and tina began going out. and when craig went on disability, after hurting his back at work, he had plenty of free time to drive the hour from effingham county, to the town where tina lived. he was there when she needed him, she recalls. came to leave on him for support. because at 42 years of age, tina was battling breast cancer. >> if i had a treatment, and i was very sick, he would be there with me. hold my hair if i was sick. he really was very supportive at that time. >> after nine months of dating, craig and tina started making wedding plans. >> we talked about who was going to stand up with us. and who we wanted to invite. and, just had really set a date. and, we really were serious about having a life together. >> but a month before the wedding day she found out something disturbing. really disturbing. tina was on her way to a chemotherapy treatment when she got a phone call. on the other end of the line, a woman's voice. >> she said, you are seeing my husband. >> and i said no ma'am i'm not, i'm not dating anyone's husband. and she said, yes you are. and i said tell me what your husband is? and she said craig heidt and i said, well wait a minute. i guess maybe i am. >> whoops! a controlled craig soon showed up on her doorstep. professing his love for her and saying that he foolishly hoped that he would get a divorce before she found out he had a wife and two kids back in effingham county. >> and i told him, you need to go home. take care of your business. get your divorce, stay with your wife. do whatever you're going to do. >> craig left tina's house, and within a few months he did get divorced. soon, he and tina were back on course. and he asked her to move up to effingham county. >> you won't have to work and i can take care of you. and, i know your health is bad. and we can have this life. and things will be better. >> but in fact, things were about to get a whole lot worse. and not just for tina and craig. back in effingham, craig's younger brother carey, was having his own relationship problems. carey told his friend james that his wife robbyn wanted a separation. >> it hurt him. he was torn up. he had made the comment to me about, you don't know how it feels live besides someone in the bed that doesn't love you. >> rob had found that carrie was sent too much time at work. so good husband that he, was he cut back his hours and went to counseling. anything he could do to make it work. >> he would do what it took to keep the marriage together. especially for the kids. i mean, he wouldn't want to see his kids grow up like that. >> but just as much as the kids, he didn't want to lose the wife who was his first and only love. the light of his life. >> they still told me that day that he loved robyn. he loved her dearly. last that i work, he still tried to make his marriage work. >> and while they were trying to keep their banged up marriage together, carey's older brother, craig, and his girlfriend tina, we're going through pretty much the same thing. tina had moved in with craig, but then he stopped coming home. and then one day, his stuff was just gone. >> i called him and i said have you moved out? what's the deal? your clothes are gone? and he said, well what do you think? and i said, well where you living? and he said, at a fox pen. and i said, okay. >> a fox pen? he wasn't exaggerating by much. craig had moved into this rustic cabin set deep back on some land, owned by a hunting buddy. tina said that she was left high and dry. no job, no cash. >> there would be days i didn't even eat because i didn't have money to eat. >> come summer, tina was barely early scraping by. and she said she had no idea that around this time, craig went shopping for a new house. he'd contacted realtor, kristen. >> personality? how did he come across? >> he was a little quiet. he was just a nice guy. he was meek. >> craig told christie that he was interested in buying some property. kristie said that she showed him a nice house with acreage. and it was going through for a quarter of a mill. >> and he wanted to move up there. and start behind horses. and training them. >> when she asked craig how he was gonna pay. he says he talked about sending some timberland that he owned. >> the land was being sold, that he would know something in a couple of weeks. and he had also told me that he had a girlfriend. and if they moved to this county, could her kids still go to effingham? >> that girlfriend wasn't tina. she hadn't seen him since he moved out. so who was? a month before, tina had noticed something in the mail that caught her eye. craig's phone bill. who were all those calls to? >> i started watching the cell phone bill, for a couple of months. because i had a suspicion that he was seeing somebody else. >> and what an incendiary story those phone logs would hint at. it was like something out of the bible. taboo behavior, and a game-changer in this murder investigation. and when police figured out what was going on behind those closed doors, they'd have some pointed questions tina's ex-boyfriend. craig heidt. coming up. >> craig. have you've been totally honest with me throughout this whole investigation? >> yes sir. >> about everything? >> yes sir. >> what was the secret that craig heidt was guarding so secretly? as shattering surprise was in store for folks in emington county. >> robin said she was having sex with you? >> when dateline continues. ew tequila lime shrimp. that's seven endless choices for just $20. right now, only at red lobster. welcome to fun dining. 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>> craig. have you've been totally honest with me throughout this whole investigation? >> yes sir. >> about everything? >> yes sir. i've tried to be. i mean, i've been mind boggled. but, what do you think of been dishonest about? >> while, fair one, i think you've been dishonest about your relationship with robyn. >> it being a sexual relationship. >> no, sir. >> craig insisted that there was nothing going on between them. >> i know that it looks bad, but i'm going to tell you something, i couldn't do that to my brother. if i do that to my brother. >> but agent barry knew something that craig didn't. robbyn had already spilled to the illicit relationship with her brother in law. the agents confronted clegg. craig. >> and what if i said robin said that something had happened? >> that's not true. >> please be truthful with me. >> i'm being truthful with you! >> someone's not being truthful with me. >> i am being truthful with you. >> the agent wasn't satisfied with the answers he was getting from craig. and he still had an unsolved murder on his hands. agent barry tried a new tack, till craig that detectives were honing homing in on robin as the prime suspect and killer. >> if she loves you, wouldn't it be for her to just kill carey and you can be with her forever? >> there is no way that robin had anything to do with this. i swear to you on my love mama 's life. she had never said anything like that. never. >> but craig had strong words for whomever did kill his family. >> what do you want me to do. >> i want you to. >> when we catch this person? >> i want you to put them away. >> put them away? >> yes sir. >> that's your wishes? >> yes sir. from the bottom of my heart. put them away. >> even if it's robin? >> even if it's robin. >> telling craig that robin was a lead suspect was actually a fake out. in fact, authorities were zeroing in on craig, not robbyn. due to his inconsistent statements. and while in the interview, craig had not fallen for the ruse and confess to the crimes and protect his lover. the investigators still believe that something was not right about the oldest son's story. and they kept craig on the radar. >> we are keeping tabs on craig at this time. and he began to live with robin at her residence. drive his brother's truck. >> detectives quietly continued their investigation, running down tip line leads. following the money trail of philip and carey's -- business. jittery residents, meanwhile, worried the case would never be solved. but nine months after the deadly break-in at the heidt home on springfield, egypt road, authorities finally made their move. >> at approximately 8:35 this morning, philip craig heidt, 41 of springfield was arrested. >> he was arrested and charged with the murder of his father and brother. and the aggravated battery of his mother. relatives were naturally shocked and distraught. a son and a brother. craig's cousin, -- arms dwarf could not make hills or tails of the investigation. and because craig was as flabbergasted as everyone else. >> i said craig, i never would've thought we would be talking like this through a glass. and he said, i would not have either. craig was really scared. he said, mark when they pulled me over and they arrested me. he said that he could not believe, he was shocked. >> mark says to know craig is to love him. and to know that he could not have done this. >> he was like a data. daddy. when he came into the room he would make a point to speak with you. shake your hand. >> mark and craig grew up like brothers. >> growing up, if he wasn't at my house spending the night or recants. weekends. i was at his house on weekends. always together. >> mark says just like the rest of the heidt, craig was raised to be an actively involved citizen. >> we farmed dreamed about farming together. >> as teens, mark and craig held possessions in the future farmers of america charter. they were involved in the local church. and in school, he says craig was never some wacky loner. >> he had a tremendous amount of friends. he always had a part in school. everyone loved him. >> and they say that craig was close to the family. authorities believe that he had ruthlessly killed. so maybe he wasn't cut out for the family business like his brothers, but nevertheless, he still made his father proud. >> craig was always working. i never remember him not working. >> when we spoke, mark said that he vividly remembered seeing craig for the first time after the horrible murders. and insisted craig's reaction with that of an innocent man. >> he and i held each other and cried. it was a horrible thing. it was killing him. he said, i could see the hurt in his eyes. >> as for mark, there was not a shred of doubt that craig's emotions that day where the real deal. >> that's as genuine as it gets. i'm tearing up. >> mike believes authorities felt pressured to make an arrest. and so they targeted the easiest person in their midst. namely the one relative with a healthy blot on his reputation. the one who was rumored to be having sex with him sister in law. >> definitely, he made some bad decisions. we've all done that. but that has not made him a murderer. >> but investigators were talking evidence, and timeline. just look, they'd tell you. in what craig was doing on the day he was arrested. it was may of 2009. the last day of school before summer vacation in effingham county. when police pulled him over to arrest. he was driving his dead brother's white truck. he had his brother's children's i. d. cards in his wallet. the truck was full of craig's belongings. and when school got out, craig and his brother's wife and kids were all going to move to south carolina. to the cops, this was more than just a fling. this was coveting. biblical stuff. jealousy. anger. lust. and greed. >> he had just stepped right into his brother's life? 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>> hello? >> help. help. help. please. >> officers came in, i think it was about three deputies. and they were flashing the flashlights. and they said ma'am put down the weapon. but i was sitting there, holding my cell phone. and one of the officers went back to the bedroom and they said there's two back here dead. and pretty well after that, i don't remember anything for about four weeks later. >> what, if anything, could she tell authorities about the assailant? >> do you remember giving a description of the person that you saw in -- shoot philippe and yourself? >> a slender man? >> you weren't able to give any other better decisions or more detail than that? >> no. >> linda's son craig hardly look slender in court. but the state said if you put all the pieces of the odd crime scene together, the shadowy figure in the bedroom that night had to have been craig. first, a crime scene analysts concluded only once assailant entered the home. >> i see no evidence in this case of multiple shooters. one person taking three shots is what i see. >> and the analysts said the crime scene did not look like a robbery gone wrong. jurors were shown the jewelry and cash left in plain sight. the key, the undisturbed curtain on the door. signs, said they lead case agent. that the scene was staged to deflect attention away from the intruders real motive. >> it was clear cut designed to break in, and kill every soul in the residence. >> once more, the only things that were supposedly missing from the residents all belong to craig. his boots, his coveralls, and his 12 gauge shotgun. the ammunition likely used in the attack. it was the kind that ammunition that was found in the truck. michael prosecuted the case. >> when they found the shotgun. shells. >> live ammo? >> three live ammo shells. >> winchester? >> winchester. >> and yet, the question remained, what would make read craig heidt even consider putting a shock into his family? what could've driven him? >> the state would call to the stand craig sister-in-law, robbyn. for the first time, she would reveal the full story behind what, until now, had only been rich grist for the effingham county rumor mill. >> state your name for the record please. >> robin heidt. >> all eyes were glued to the witness box the day that robin heidt took the stand. jurors had already heard from the prosecutor about an inappropriate relationship between craig and robin. and now, they were gonna hear from robin herself. about what exactly had been going on in the family behind closed doors. and between brother and sister by marriage. >> are you married? >> no sir. i'm widowed. >> and who are you married to? >> i was married to carey heidt. >> how long were you married? >> 13 years. >> robbyn told the jurors about her life with carey. >> we had a very good, very prosperous living. yes, sir. >> did you ever like -- lack for anything. >> no. >> was he always able to provide? >> yes he was. >> what kind of husband was he? >> a very good husband. >> and how carrie was good with the three children as well. >> he was the best father, a wonderful father. >> but then, she explained, that in 2008. things got rocky between her and a husband. >> he spent a lot of time at work. a lot less time at home. he became very distant with me. i wasn't really sure why, i didn't realize that the real estate business was not going as well as it had been going. and i knew there was some problems but, there was a lot of problems and he didn't discuss them with me. so we became pretty distant. as far as our marriage, and relationship. >> the strain in their union was enough to cause driving to stray from carey. and in a shocking way. >> yes, in april of 2008, i engaged a relationship with his older brother, craig. >> coming up. >> how did he find out about the affair. >> i told him. >> you told him? >> how did he act when you told him? >> he was upset. he said if i was gonna have an affair he wish it would've been with anybody else besides his brother. >> details of the affair laid bare. was that a motive for murder? 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it felt like an ambush. >> investigators searched for clues, but what they found, were secrets. a forbidden love affair right in the family. one son sleeping with the other son's wife. >> he said, if i was going to have an affair, he wished it would have been with anybody else except his brother. >> bad blood between brothers -- had that been a motive for murder? and had one kill the other to steal his wife? in court, it all came out, scandalous passions. jealousy, greed, lust. >> he said that he was the black sheep of the family. >> a family saga turns riveting courtroom drama. >> i cried the whole time. >> the time we were saved a call around 3m. >> effingham 9-1-1? >> help, please. >> what's wrong? >> gun. shot. >> you're shot? >> yes. >> where you at? >> the sheriff's office 9-1-1 operator, could barely understand the voice on the other end of the call. >> how did you get shot ma'am? >> i don't know. >> you don't know? >> no. >> andré, get james, 10-18, hurry up. >> the dispatcher, calling for sergeant james to help out. >> where did you get shot at? >> face. >> in your face? >> yes. >> it was difficult to hear what she was saying. you could hear her gargling, due to blood in her throat. >> it sounded as though, she was not the only victim. >> husband. shot. too. >> your husband shot too? >> yes. >> okay, is there anybody else in the house with you besides you and your husband? >> yes. >> who else is in the house with you? >> son. >> your son? >> yes. >> two, possibly, three adult shot in a home, in the middle of the night. >> did he get shot too? or do you not know? >> i don't know. >> you don't know? >> no. >> the female survivor had no idea if the assailant was in the house. >> we weren't sure if it was a home invasion, we weren't sure if it was an accidental discharge of a firearm. >> what is your name sweetie? >> linda. >> linda? >> the sergeant, and other deputies, we're racing to the location. a one storey ranch house, and a heavily wooded area, of side of town. >>there was little to no light outside. it was pitch black. our weapons were already drawn. we weren't sure if the suspect is in the area, still in the woods. we approached the door, and we could hear the sound of a female moaning, what appeared to be pain. >> they could hear her, but were delayed and finding her, because something stop them in their tracks as they entered the kitchen. >> there was an overwhelming smell of gasoline emanating from the house. it was extremely noxious, hard to breathe. the deputy hill slipped on the gasoline, and i had to catch him to prevent him from falling. >> why hadn't the gasoline been torched? was someone trying to lure the cops inside, before striking a match. >> it felt like an ambush. >> they found the woman, slumped on the kitchen floor, behind a table. the woman, linda, still holding her cell phone. the distress call was genuine. and, her injuries were grave. >> she had some sort of, fabric, a towel, on her throat, and it was soaked in blood. i asked her to remove the cloth from her throat so i could get a visual of her injuries. the entire area of her neck here was missing. and she swallowed, you could see her throat moving. >> one victim accounted for. where were the others? >> she didn't know if anyone else was still on the residents. residents. she didn't know if her son, and husband, are still alive. >> with guns drawn, deputies, continued clearing the residents. the information that they yelled back down the hall was as bad as it could get. linda's son, shot dead, in one bedroom. >> he was in the bed, still under the covers. he had an obvious gunshot wound to the face. >> linda's husband, philip, shot dead in their bedroom. >> he had pulled a sheet above his face, and a defensive stance. there was a gunshot wound through the sheet. >> an explosion of horror. three people, gunned down, two fatally, on a quiet road, in a quiet georgia town. now, linda, the lone survivor, was on route to the hospital in grave condition. what had happened in the dark hours of a monday morning in that modest house? peeling back the layers of the mystery would take years. it would leave a family torn apart, and a community devastated but to begin to comprehend what happened, you need to roll back the clock, back to 2008, to a town called springfield, and a family named the heights. >> if i were to ask you what the height family was like, in 2007, what would you say? >> great family. spiritual family. pillars of the community. >> the height family in 2011? >> destroyed. >> what had happened on springfield egypt road? who would want got from people like the heights dead? coming up -- get her, get out and -- >> so, he was a player? >> he was a player. he was going to get the job done. >> the hard charging businessman had had to deal gone bad -- and urgent investigation begins when dateline continues. e continues. ♪ non-drowsy claritin knocks out symptoms from over 200 allergens. without knocking you out. feel the clarity and make today the most wonderful time of the year. live claritin clear. i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. the most wonderful time of the year. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are looking up ♪ ♪ i've got symptom relief ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements at 4 weeks. skyrizi is the first and only il-23 inhibitor for crohn's that can deliver both clinical remission and endoscopic improvement. the majority of people on skyrizi achieved long lasting remission at 1 year. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine or plan to. liver problems may occur in crohn's disease. ask your gastroenterologist how you can take control of your crohn's with skyrizi. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ learn how abbvie could help you save. ♪ it's the most wonderful time of the year ♪ ♪ non-drowsy claritin knocks out symptoms from over 200 allergens. without knocking you out. feel the clarity and make today the most wonderful time of the year. live claritin clear. 1 down, 9 to go. the most wonderful time of the year. hey, what are you doing out here? 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>> he was a player. he was going to get the job done. >> it was a terrific salesman knack he had, even he got the better part of a deal, he left you feeling good about it. >> philip was a guy that loved people, he was a guy that people loved him. he just always made people feel good. he always made you feel like you are special. >> when he wasn't putting in long hours at the office. or serving as president of this board, or director of that bank. he took pure delight in raising the cattle on his land that went back for generations. the property on rural springfield egypt road. but above all, philip heidt like to spend time with his family. linda, his wife of 40 years and his three sons craig, chris and carrie. >> the most important thing is his family. he always wanted his family to be close to each other. he always wanted his family to love each other. >> then came that horrific night in august of 2008, when philip, carrie, and linda heidt were shot in the height home. only linda survived to call 9-1-1 but now she was in serious condition in the hospital. >> i could not believe it, because miss linda and mr. philip, they were really nice people. >> none of the locals wanted to think it had anything to do with the nearby people suspected of cooking meth. and with whom they shared fifth springfield, egypt road. there had been some arrests a while back. residents felt helpless behind crime scene tape, including a cousin. mark. >> it was a horrible day. >> down the road, hundreds gathered for philip and carrie heidt's funeral. cousin mark was a poll bearer for philip. >> it was a full house, we had standing room. but people couldn't get it. it showed how much we were loved, how much people thought of the family. >> double caskets, the tear streaked faces of mourners drawn taught with grief. no one wanted to send the father and son off like this. >> it was terrible, i lost the best friend and a person to talk to. >> james had known carry so well, and for so long. >> he basically was the person that was always worried about everybody else, i reckon. he do anything for you. give you the shirt off his own back. >> family, there were two older brothers. chris. and craig. though carrie would be the one to follow his father into real estate and like his father, carry shared a zest for work and i love a family. >> busy all during the day, meetings at night. running late, watching home. getting the kids baths. but he did looking forward to going home and giving the kids baths. >> he was proud of always being there for his three children, and his wife. robin heidt, someone he had known since high school. >> the only real girlfriend girlfriend he had had was robin. that i'm aware of. >> in high school, robin had been voted class clown. and when the vivaciously girl started dating the quiet, street laced, carrie. some did not see the match. but it worked for them. they got married a year after graduation. >> he loved her from day one. he did everything he could for her. sure did. >> and now carrie and his father phillips violent deaths were a mystery. if only carrie's mother, linda, miss linda to one and all. could help with crucial details. but she could not speak. her lower jaw and neck had been torn up by a shotgun blast. it was questionable whether she would make it. >> based on what we saw on scene, we did not believe that she was going to survive those injuries. they were that serious. >> had she seen the person, or persons who had shot her? would she be able to give a description that could help authorities apprehend the killer, now on the loose? >> coming up. something seemed fishy right from the start. was it obvious what had gone on there to you? >> after looking at the scene, it became obvious. that this scene was staged. >> staged? >> yes. >> when dateline continues. hi. i'd like to tell you about a cashew farmer from mozambique named carlos. carlos used to struggle to provide enough food and education for his family. but then everything changed. technoserve helps farmers like carlos lift themselves out of poverty by building skills, connections and confidence. today, carlos and his family are thriving. and so are his cashews. go to technoserve.org and donate today. it's a different way to make a difference. you're probably not easily persuaded to switch go to t mobile providersd donate for your business. but what if we told you it's possible that comcast business mobile can save you up to 75% a year on your wireless bill versus the big three carriers? 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>> after looking at the scene, it became obvious that the scene was staged. >> staged? >> yes. >> it was meant to look like a robbery. however, nothing was taken of note. there was money left, keys left. >> stuff that would've been easy to grab and get a little money? >> yes sir. >> nothing was disturbed other than the bodies found. >> and the csi team found something else. the way the intruder may have entered the home. the point of entry you found to be? where they wanted you to believe it was where? >> the garage door had a pain glass inside of it. and the glass was broken. and it was made to look like someone had entered the residence through that door. >> it may have looked like the intruders way in, but the curtain on the glass panes was undisturbed. it looked as though no one had pushed inside to grab the door handle. there was a much simpler explanation for how the killer, or killers had gotten in and out. they found the families outside key. it was kept hidden, and was missing from its usual place. >> and there was a key inside the doorway. >> the key that was in the doorway was probably the one that was kept outside? >>one would assume, yes. >> so you're looking at somebody who has at least good working knowledge of that house. >> yes sir. >> strange clues, at a grim scene. in those early morning hours. nothing seemed to be adding up. you have no idea who the shooter is? >> right. >> if they are alone, if there is more than one. >> correct. >> and the one heidt who might know was the wife, linda, who had somehow survived the gunshot to her face. she was recovering, but it would be weeks before investigators could elicit her story. >> her mouth was wired shut due to her injuries. i believe she had some bone graft reconstructive surgeries. skin grafts. it took her a long, long time before she was able to talk to anybody. >> it fell to georgia bureau of investigation special agent john barry to ask the question. are there any cracks? any secrets in the esteemed heidt family? >> at this time we start what we call victimology. and victimology is something where we look at these peoples live, and determine what put them at added risk to -- >> he had to learn more about the patriarch, philip's business in -- the age and started by looking at the core of things, the immediate family. they would be a prime source of information, but something else as well. >> part of the investigation is that everyone is a suspect at this point. >> the detective began his interviews that morning after the family murders, sitting -- chris height. chris told the detective that he had been home with his wife the previous. night she was questioned, and the middle son's story checked out. by then, the crime scene analysts believe the murder weapon was a 12 gauge shotgun, and agent barry search chris home looking for a fire arm. >> he had several guns there. but nothing in my training, or experience, that indicated that any of them had been recently fired. >> next up, the detective. the older brother. craig heidt. >> craig stated that he was watching television shows. hunting and fishing shows. >> he told the gbi man that he had spent the night at himself at a place a half an hour drivers away. a rustic hunting cabin owned by a friend. agent berry drove up to the cabin to search it as well. >> the search of the cabin resulted in not finding any 12 gauge shotguns. >> but investigators did find 12 gauge ammo in the back of craig's truck. three inch magnum shotgun shells. >> he didn't tell me anything because craig heidt was identified as an avid hunter. and was known to turkey hunt. >> two days after the murders, the agent sat down again, with craig heidt at the sheriff's office. >> how is your mama doing? >> she is doing wonderful. >> she is? >> wonderful. >> after the polite formalities, barry posed the difficult question. who would want craig's family dead? >> craig offered this clue. >> the only thing that my father and carey has remotely said anything to me about anything is finances. >> craig may have been referring to the fact that his father philip, and brother carey, like so many others. had recently been spreading the plunging value in the 2008 real estate market. investigators would learn that the father son team of philip and carey ran a business worth millions. but they were heavily invested. land rich? maybe cash poor. had something gone dangerously downhill in philip heidt's empire? there were some complicated partnerships to examine. >> once this happened, there were numerous rumors about who did it. and if the market can do it or was it a professional hit? or did someone local do it. >> and he was a player. he had a lot of interest. how to state money? >> he did. >> and it's not unreasonable for investigators to get a deal to go south there? >> exactly. was this a bad deal that somebody got mad about and came to retaliate for. >> and craig heidt had perhaps another clue to offer detectives. he had been after the family property after the shootings and said that he noticed some of his things missing in the shut out back. including, a 12 gauge firearm. >> the 12 gauge is not there. i have one pair of snakebite boots that are not there. >> could the assailant had stolen those items to commit the crime? but, there was something else gbi agents was starting to get wind of. right rumors around town of a possible skeleton in the heidt family closet. investigators knew it could be nothing or something. but they would have to run down the scuttlebutt before they could move on to other leads. if only one family member would be more candid with them. after all, the rumors were about him. >> have you been totally honest with me throughout this entire investigation? >> yes sir. >> about everything? >> yes sir. >> coming up. >> maybe if i had went in april, to miss london, mr. philip, and carey. this is what's going on. you should do something now. maybe it would not have went to the limit. >> someone who had been keeping a secret. and it was about to come out. when dateline continue. ocks out your worst allergy symptoms including nasal congestion. without knocking you out. feel the clarity and make today the most wonderful time of the year. claritin-d. this isn't charmin! no wonder i don't feel as clean. hurry up dad! i'm trying! this cheap stuff is too thin! here's charmin ultra strong! ahhh! my bottom's been saved! woohoo! with its diamond weave texture, charmin ultra strong cleans better with fewer sheets and less effort. what's everybody waiting for? 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this story that she hadn't told? >> i wish to the stay that i had. maybe they still would be here. >> tina didn't know anything about phillip's financial pressures. or a missing gun from the property. but she did know something about bottled up secrets. some people would later call it, scandalous, what had happened behind the heidt's closed doors. she had began her story with only good things to say about the parents. people she'd known for several years. >> miss linda and mr. philip heidt were very nice people. very carrying people. >> she met the son craig at the veterinarian's office where she worked laid back in 2003. they chatted about the hunting dogs, and she was struck by well mannered he was. >> very nice guy. very polite. just did the yes ma'am, no ma'am, thank you for helping me. that kind of person. >> craig and tina began going out. and when craig went on disability, after hurting his back at work, he had plenty of free time to drive the hour from effingham county, to the town where tina lived. he was there when she needed him, she recalls. came to leave on him for support. because at 42 years of age, tina was battling breast cancer. >> if i had a treatment, and i was very sick, he would be there with me. hold my hair if i was sick. he really was very supportive at that time. >> after nine months of dating, craig and tina started making wedding plans. >> we talked about who was going to stand up with us. and who we wanted to invite. and, just had really set a date. and, we really were serious about having a life together. >> but a month before the wedding day she found out something disturbing. really disturbing. tina was on her way to a chemotherapy treatment when she got a phone call. on the other end of the line, a woman's voice. >> she said, you are seeing my husband. >> and i said no ma'am i'm not, i'm not dating anyone's husband. and she said, yes you are. and i said tell me what your husband is? and she said craig heidt and i said, well wait a minute. i guess maybe i am. >> whoops! a controlled craig soon showed up on her doorstep. professing his love for her and saying that he foolishly hoped that he would get a divorce before she found out he had a wife and two kids back in effingham county. >> and i told him, you need to go home. take care of your business. get your divorce, stay with your wife. do whatever you're going to do. >> craig left tina's house, and within a few months he did get divorced. soon, he and tina were back on course. and he asked her to move up to effingham county. >> you won't have to work and i can take care of you. and, i know your health is bad. and we can have this life. and things will be better. >> but in fact, things were about to get a whole lot worse. and not just for tina and craig. back in effingham, craig's younger brother carey, was having his own relationship problems. carey told his friend james that his wife robbyn wanted a separation. >> it hurt him. he was torn up. he had made the comment to me about, you don't know how it feels live besides someone in the bed that doesn't love you. >> rob had found that carrie was sent too much time at work. so good husband that he, was he cut back his hours and went to counseling. anything he could do to make it work. >> he would do what it took to keep the marriage together. especially for the kids. i mean, he wouldn't want to see his kids grow up like that. >> but just as much as the kids, he didn't want to lose the wife who was his first and only love. the light of his life. >> they still told me that day that he loved robyn. he loved her dearly. last that i work, he still tried to make his marriage work. >> and while they were trying to keep their banged up marriage together, carey's older brother, craig, and his girlfriend tina, we're going through pretty much the same thing. tina had moved in with craig, but then he stopped coming home. and then one day, his stuff was just gone. >> i called him and i said have you moved out? what's the deal? your clothes are gone? and he said, well what do you think? and i said, well where you living? and he said, at a fox pen. and i said, okay. >> a fox pen? he wasn't exaggerating by much. craig had moved into this rustic cabin set deep back on some land, owned by a hunting buddy. tina said that she was left high and dry. no job, no cash. >> there would be days i didn't even eat because i didn't have money to eat. >> come summer, tina was barely early scraping by. and she said she had no idea that around this time, craig went shopping for a new house. he'd contacted realtor, kristen. >> personality? how did he come across? >> he was a little quiet. he was just a nice guy. he was meek. >> craig told christie that he was interested in buying some property. kristie said that she showed him a nice house with acreage. and it was going through for a quarter of a mill. >> and he wanted to move up there. and start behind horses. and training them. >> when she asked craig how he was gonna pay. he says he talked about sending some timberland that he owned. >> the land was being sold, that he would know something in a couple of weeks. and he had also told me that he had a girlfriend. and if they moved to this county, could her kids still go to effingham? >> that girlfriend wasn't tina. she hadn't seen him since he moved out. so who was? a month before, tina had noticed something in the mail that caught her eye. craig's phone bill. who were all those calls to? >> i started watching the cell phone bill, for a couple of months. because i had a suspicion that he was seeing somebody else. >> and what an incendiary story those phone logs would hint at. it was like something out of the bible. taboo behavior, and a game-changer in this murder investigation. and when police figured out what was going on behind those closed doors, they'd have some pointed questions tina's ex-boyfriend. craig heidt. coming up. >> craig. have you've been totally honest with me throughout this whole investigation? >> yes sir. >> about everything? >> yes sir. >> what was the secret that craig heidt was guarding so secretly? as shattering surprise was in store for folks in emington county. >> robin said she was having sex with you? >> when dateline continues. ew tequila lime shrimp. that's seven endless choices for just $20. right now, only at red lobster. welcome to fun dining. 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>> craig. have you've been totally honest with me throughout this whole investigation? >> yes sir. >> about everything? >> yes sir. i've tried to be. i mean, i've been mind boggled. but, what do you think of been dishonest about? >> while, fair one, i think you've been dishonest about your relationship with robyn. >> it being a sexual relationship. >> no, sir. >> craig insisted that there was nothing going on between them. >> i know that it looks bad, but i'm going to tell you something, i couldn't do that to my brother. if i do that to my brother. >> but agent barry knew something that craig didn't. robbyn had already spilled to the illicit relationship with her brother in law. the agents confronted clegg. craig. >> and what if i said robin said that something had happened? >> that's not true. >> please be truthful with me. >> i'm being truthful with you! >> someone's not being truthful with me. >> i am being truthful with you. >> the agent wasn't satisfied with the answers he was getting from craig. and he still had an unsolved murder on his hands. agent barry tried a new tack, till craig that detectives were honing homing in on robin as the prime suspect and killer. >> if she loves you, wouldn't it be for her to just kill carey and you can be with her forever? >> there is no way that robin had anything to do with this. i swear to you on my love mama 's life. she had never said anything like that. never. >> but craig had strong words for whomever did kill his family. >> what do you want me to do. >> i want you to. >> when we catch this person? >> i want you to put them away. >> put them away? >> yes sir. >> that's your wishes? >> yes sir. from the bottom of my heart. put them away. >> even if it's robin? >> even if it's robin. >> telling craig that robin was a lead suspect was actually a fake out. in fact, authorities were zeroing in on craig, not robbyn. due to his inconsistent statements. and while in the interview, craig had not fallen for the ruse and confess to the crimes and protect his lover. the investigators still believe that something was not right about the oldest son's story. and they kept craig on the radar. >> we are keeping tabs on craig at this time. and he began to live with robin at her residence. drive his brother's truck. >> detectives quietly continued their investigation, running down tip line leads. following the money trail of philip and carey's -- business. jittery residents, meanwhile, worried the case would never be solved. but nine months after the deadly break-in at the heidt home on springfield, egypt road, authorities finally made their move. >> at approximately 8:35 this morning, philip craig heidt, 41 of springfield was arrested. >> he was arrested and charged with the murder of his father and brother. and the aggravated battery of his mother. relatives were naturally shocked and distraught. a son and a brother. craig's cousin, -- arms dwarf could not make hills or tails of the investigation. and because craig was as flabbergasted as everyone else. >> i said craig, i never would've thought we would be talking like this through a glass. and he said, i would not have either. craig was really scared. he said, mark when they pulled me over and they arrested me. he said that he could not believe, he was shocked. >> mark says to know craig is to love him. and to know that he could not have done this. >> he was like a data. daddy. when he came into the room he would make a point to speak with you. shake your hand. >> mark and craig grew up like brothers. >> growing up, if he wasn't at my house spending the night or recants. weekends. i was at his house on weekends. always together. >> mark says just like the rest of the heidt, craig was raised to be an actively involved citizen. >> we farmed dreamed about farming together. >> as teens, mark and craig held possessions in the future farmers of america charter. they were involved in the local church. and in school, he says craig was never some wacky loner. >> he had a tremendous amount of friends. he always had a part in school. everyone loved him. >> and they say that craig was close to the family. authorities believe that he had ruthlessly killed. so maybe he wasn't cut out for the family business like his brothers, but nevertheless, he still made his father proud. >> craig was always working. i never remember him not working. >> when we spoke, mark said that he vividly remembered seeing craig for the first time after the horrible murders. and insisted craig's reaction with that of an innocent man. >> he and i held each other and cried. it was a horrible thing. it was killing him. he said, i could see the hurt in his eyes. >> as for mark, there was not a shred of doubt that craig's emotions that day where the real deal. >> that's as genuine as it gets. i'm tearing up. >> mike believes authorities felt pressured to make an arrest. and so they targeted the easiest person in their midst. namely the one relative with a healthy blot on his reputation. the one who was rumored to be having sex with him sister in law. >> definitely, he made some bad decisions. we've all done that. but that has not made him a murderer. >> but investigators were talking evidence, and timeline. just look, they'd tell you. in what craig was doing on the day he was arrested. it was may of 2009. the last day of school before summer vacation in effingham county. when police pulled him over to arrest. he was driving his dead brother's white truck. he had his brother's children's i. d. cards in his wallet. the truck was full of craig's belongings. and when school got out, craig and his brother's wife and kids were all going to move to south carolina. to the cops, this was more than just a fling. this was coveting. biblical stuff. jealousy. anger. lust. and greed. >> he had just stepped right into his brother's life? >> exactly. >> took the wife, the house, the truck, the kids. >> the money. he had become his brother. >> coming up. a son and brother on trial. >> i see no evidence in this house of multiple shooters. one person taking three shots. >> and a mother takes the stand. the dramatic tale about that deadly night. >> and i heard a very loud blast. and i must have blacked out. i woke up praying. i said god if we're gonna do this then i need your strength. because i have none of my own. >> when dateline continues. of my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now i feel free to bare my skin, thanks to skyrizi. ♪(uplifting music)♪ ♪nothing is everything♪ i'm celebrating my clearer skin... my way. with skyrizi, 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. in another study, most people had 90% clearer skin, even at 5 years. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine, or plan to. thanks to clearer skin with skyrizi - this is my moment. there's nothing on my skin and that means everything! ♪nothing is everything♪ now's the time. ask your doctor about skyrizi, the #1 dermatologist-prescribed biologic in psoriasis. learn how abbvie could help you save. kayaking is my thing. running is awesome. but her moderate to severe eczema would make her skin so uncomfortable. now i'm staying ahead of it. dupixent helps heal your skin from within. so, they can have clearer skin and less itch. serious allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. tell your doctor about new or worsening eye problems such as eye pain or vision changes including blurred vision, joint aches and pain, or a parasitic infection. don't change or stop asthma medicines without talking to your doctor. ask your doctor about dupixent. you know you did it. without talking to your doctor. we know he did it because of his lies, because of his lies, the type of person he is. because of the conflicts that was taking place. >> craig heidt, on trial in a georgia courtroom for shooting to death his father and brother in their beds. and gunning down his mother with the intent to kill. >> the murder, of your daddy, your brother. >> the prosecution called the motive as old as the bible. craig's lust for his brother's wife. and greed fooled by the last. they begin by bringing to the stand, the one witness in the case who asked not to have a face shown on camera, the defendants own mother, linda heidt. >> he came up to the house, who's going to spend the night with us. >> speaking hesitantly after several surgeries to her face, linda told the story of that harrowing night her quiet world was ripped apart by three gunshots. it was august 25th, 2008. she and her husband philip had an extra guest that night. their son carey. >> he and his wife or having problems, and he came to our house. >> they had all gone to bed. but linda had recently become absorbed with puzzles called word find books. she was doing one of the bathroom, off the bedrooms, so as to not disturb her husband. when she heard a sound. >> and i heard a very loud noise, a blast. so i went out and went in the bedroom. and i said philip. and when i said that, i saw a blast. when philip was shot. and then, i saw the blast as i was shot. and i must of blacked out. i remember waking up and i was laying on the floor, and i saw my teeth laying on the floor. and i must of blacked out again. and i, woke up praying. i said god if we are going to do this. i need your strength. because i've none of my own. >> linda tried to call for help on the bedroom phone, but the line was dead. by now, she was bleeding profusely. she grabbed a piece of clothing and held it to her face. she doesn't know how she made it to the kitchen. but she was able to get her cell phone out of her purse to 911 dial. >> effingham, 9-1-1. >> help, someone? >> hello? >> help. help. help. please. >> officers came in, i think it was about three deputies. and they were flashing the flashlights. and they said ma'am put down the weapon. but i was sitting there, holding my cell phone. and one of the officers went back to the bedroom and they said there's two back here dead. and pretty well after that, i don't remember anything for about four weeks later. >> what, if anything, could she tell authorities about the assailant? >> do you remember giving a description of the person that you saw in -- shoot philippe and yourself? >> a slender man? >> you weren't able to give any other better decisions or more detail than that? >> no. >> linda's son craig hardly look slender in court. but the state said if you put all the pieces of the odd crime scene together, the shadowy figure in the bedroom that night had to have been craig. first, a crime scene analysts concluded only once assailant entered the home. >> i see no evidence in this case of multiple shooters. one person taking three shots is what i see. >> and the analysts said the crime scene did not look like a robbery gone wrong. jurors were shown the jewelry and cash left in plain sight. the key, the undisturbed curtain on the door. signs, said they lead case agent. that the scene was staged to deflect attention away from the intruders real motive. >> it was clear cut designed to break in, and kill every soul in the residence. >> once more, the only things that were supposedly missing from the residents all belong to craig. his boots, his coveralls, and his 12 gauge shotgun. the ammunition likely used in the attack. it was the kind that ammunition that was found in the truck. michael prosecuted the case. >> when they found the shotgun. shells. >> live ammo? >> three live ammo shells. >> winchester? >> winchester. >> and yet, the question remained, what would make read craig heidt even consider putting a shock into his family? what could've driven him? >> the state would call to the stand craig sister-in-law, robbyn. for the first time, she would reveal the full story behind what, until now, had only been rich grist for the effingham county rumor mill. >> state your name for the record please. >> robin heidt. >> all eyes were glued to the witness box the day that robin heidt took the stand. jurors had already heard from the prosecutor about an inappropriate relationship between craig and robin. and now, they were gonna hear from robin herself. about what exactly had been going on in the family behind closed doors. and between brother and sister by marriage. >> are you married? >> no sir. i'm widowed. >> and who are you married to? >> i was married to carey heidt. >> how long were you married? >> 13 years. >> robbyn told the jurors about her life with carey. >> we had a very good, very prosperous living. yes, sir. >> did you ever like -- lack for anything. >> no. >> was he always able to provide? >> yes he was. >> what kind of husband was he? >> a very good husband. >> and how carrie was good with the three children as well. >> he was the best father, a wonderful father. >> but then, she explained, that in 2008. things got rocky between her and a husband. >> he spent a lot of time at work. a lot less time at home. he became very distant with me. i wasn't really sure why, i didn't realize that the real estate business was not going as well as it had been going. and i knew there was some problems but, there was a lot of problems and he didn't discuss them with me. so we became pretty distant. as far as our marriage, and relationship. >> the strain in their union was enough to cause driving to stray from carey. and in a shocking way. >> yes, in april of 2008, i engaged a relationship with his older brother, craig. >> coming up. >> how did he find out about the affair. >> i told him. >> you told him? >> how did he act when you told him? >> he was upset. he said if i was gonna have an affair he wish it would've been with anybody else besides his brother. >> details of the affair laid bare. was that a motive for murder? 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