arraignment. trump's lawyers also asked the court to officially separate his trial from several of his codefendants in that case, who had requested his trials beast beta. the trump legal team offered a familiar argument about not having enough time to prepare for a trial in the near future. today, we also got our first look at the full transcript of the former trump chief of staff, mark meadows. after he took the stand for nearly [interpreter] four hours earlier this week. that transcript included meadows explanation for one of the most curious and overtly political incidents in the whole georgia saga. after the 2020 election, meadows made a surprise trip to a civic center in cobb county, georgia, where the states ballot auditing process was taking place. now, no one has really been able to explain what meadows was doing there that day. but during his cross examination on the stand mark meadows told the court that he showed up to that ballot counting facility uninvited. he said no one told him to go there, he just happened to be in the atlanta area at the time, so he thought that he would show up. you know, you are on vacation in atlanta, you visit the coca-cola museum, you taken a ride on the ferris wheel, maybe drive out to the cop county service center and taken a nice ballot audit. a totally normal thing to do. prosecutors also appeared to have caught mark meadows and a lie about his involvement in the alleged plot to organize fake electors in georgia quoting from the transcript, prosecutor says, did you have any role, mr. meadows, in coordinating the various electors in the contested state for the trump campaign? meadows replied snow, i did not. the prosecutor, no role at all? meadows, the only time that i know from the electors point was when somebody raised the issue with me and i referred on to the campaign. prosecutor, so you had no role for the campaign or as chief of staff in coordinating those efforts across contested states? >> meadows, as chief of staff, no i did not coordinate those efforts. >> prosecutor, okay. you've got that? meadows says that he had no role in the fake electors plot. none whatsoever. okay. just a few moments later the prosecution asks mark meadows to read an email that he wrote to trump in 2020, where they discuss a memo laying out the fake electors plot. mark meadows then tells jason miller in the email, quote, we just need to have someone coordinating the electors for the states, and quote. in a new filing fulton county district attorney fani willis made a point of emphasizing the fact that meadows had not been truthful well under oath. here is what fani willis told the court, quote, after insisting that he did not play any role in the coordination of slates of fake electors throughout several states the defendant was forced to acknowledge and a cross-examination that he had in fact given direction to a campaign official in this regard. the court has ample basis not to credit somewhere all of the defense testimony from the evidentiary hearing, and quote. joining us now, former federal prosecutor paul butler and meet rocha. she serves as the district attorney for the westchester county new york. welcome to both of you thank you for being with us. let me just start with you on the meadows stuff. what does that amount to? this was kind of a weird thing because it was a trial before a trial because meadows was trying to not be part of this georgia indictment. but he said something and then they, like everything else in this case, they pull up a document and they have him read it and it turns out that what he just told them moments before was not true. in my world that is not true. in the legal world that is more serious. >> it can be, of course, as you are hinting at. it can be prosecuted as perjury. i think we have discussed in the past that that is a very difficult charge to bring. because you have to really parse, again, as always, the intent. and show that he was intending to deceive and that the question was specific enough that the miss statement, the lie, was material to that particular question. d.a. willis seems, in her papers, to be asserting that it was, in fact, false. false does not necessarily mean perjury, believe it or not. there is more to it than that. but it certainly presents a problem. really, what it shows, is the danger of, you know, mark meadows's strategy here of testifying in a pretrial setting. it is the same reason why we have talked about how it would be problematic for the prosecution if there were multiple trials that end up going here because anytime a witness testifies or a defendants testifies, people get to see a preview of what is going to be said at the next trial, or if it is in a hearing, what is going to be said at the trial. so there is always inherent risk in taking the stand and i think that that has been demonstrated here by mark meadows. >> putting aside whether or not perjury can be proved in this instance, fani willis is using this as an argument not to have meadows's case moved to federal court. what is the relevance one way or another. most of us are not used to seeing these pre trials. it is fascinating, and there is evidence, here like he's actually talking about stuff that is in those indictments. but it is not really the trial. >> it is not directly relevant. it is more i think a tactic to scare mark meadows, that if you go to trial and have the nerve to take the stand like you did at this hearing, i am going to crush you. i am going to impeach you with things that you said on the record that were not true. and in terms of the motion to remove the federal court, that is mainly a legal determination that the judge seems to think maybe there is a case to be made. the judge asked for more briefing under the law if you are a federal official, and you are charged with crimes and you say that what i am charged with his based on my federal responsibilities, you don't get out of jail free but you do get to have the case moved from state court to federal court. the legal questions that the judge has to ask is, what are the things that you are accused of doing and are they actually part of your federal responsibilities? to a lot of us it seemed like the answer was no. first of all, mark meadows says i was just helping donald trump. the president under the constitution has no specific responsibility. really no responsibility with regard to the and ministration a federal elections. so those are mainly legal decisions for the judge and i think that this today is more just to make mark meadows think a little bit about either pleading, or cooperating with d.a. willis. >> and we could talk for an hour about the mark meadows stuff but really the question is if mark meadows succeeds in getting his case removed to federal court, there are others who also want to do that using perhaps not the same argument but similar arguments that they had some sort of responsibility under federal law, dubious as paul says, that those claims might be. maybe jeffrey clark can say that he was going to be the attorney general of america and he has a reason to be doing what he was doing. but what is the consequence, if any of these people succeed in getting out from under fani willis's jurisdiction and tried in federal court. do they get tried? is it automatic if they remove their case they are still actually a federal trial? >> yes. the case would proceed in federal court as if it were in state court. if you remember, donald trump actually tried to do this in new york with the dea in new york's case. that motion was denied. obviously if meadows does successfully get his case removed, that would be a precedent for others to try although i think that it is very individual in fact based analysis, fact and law based as paul says. so one person getting it remove does not necessarily mean all of them. because it is very specific to each person's actions. but ironically, as plenty of people are attacking this dea as being political, and trying to interfere with her independent and independents and discretion, there had been attempts to try to cut funding to her office. there's this movement to create this prosecutorial commission now in georgia with all of these new standards, so they are calling her political and yet it is sort of the height of political interference in the d.a.'s independents. that is hugely important. she is an independently elected official like me, like the aids across the country. the removal to federal court issue is this claim that they are getting out from under this political prosecution but really, the political interference here is coming in the other direction of people trying to interfere with her ability to bring cases that she is entitled to bring. >> let me ask you about the idea that under georgia's fairly expansive rico laws, everything that is alleged in those indictments do not have to be a crime in and of its own right if it is in furtherance of the underlying conspiracy. does it help all of these unindicted conspirators if they get removed from being tried as part of the conspiracy? because then a bunch of things that they did, a particular text message, or mark meadows hanging out of the cobb county elections office, the counting center, if they are not part of a conspiracy perhaps there are not crimes? >> under rico, if you participated in any way in helping the crime go down, then you are culpable. you are liable. that is why prosecutors love to take charge of rico. but in this case we are seeing all of these different kinds of motions from different defendants, so people like sydney powell, and ken cheeseborough, they want speedy trials. donald trump wants an and speedy trial. other defendants want to sever the case, or as we have been discussing, move their case from state court to federal court, and what funny willis loves about this is that it is every defendant for him or herself. so it is not like it is funny we'll is first versus 19 defendants and 19 defense teams. every person is looking out for their own interest. two things will flow from this, one is that almost certainly one of these 19 defendants will plead guilty, the other thing is that almost certainly some of these 19 defendants will implicate the former president. as we saw, mark meadows do when he said that everything he did was directed by the former president, that is not a defense for meadows but it sure is incriminating for trump. >> and we have seen little traces of that showing up with some of the other people who have tried to either get their cases moved to federal court, or severed. thank you to both of you. it is so enlightening. mimi rocha and paul butler. just a reminder that all four indictments against donald trump and his codefendants will be available complete and unabridged in a brand-new book edited and introduced by me, the trump indictments, comes out on september 25th. it is available to be ordered now. we have much more to bring you tonight. senator bernie sanders is here to talk about republican efforts against american workers, and what the biden administration is doing to counter it. but, first the supreme court justice, clarence thomas, finally acknowledging publicly the gifts he received from one of his billionaire republican megadonor friends. senator sheldon white house joins me next to react. ext to react ♪ chevy silverado has what it takes to do it all. with up to 13 camera views. and the z71 off-road package. ♪ you ok? 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>> we are through the judiciary committee, and we are awaiting opportunity for a floor vote in this congress. at the moment republicans have not been willing to participate in this effort. but we only know the very beginning of the mischief between the justices and the right-wing billionaires. as more and more evidence comes out, i think a time will come where the republicans will say, okay, we've got to throw in the towel, we held out as long as we could, but let's look at a bill. even this reporting by justice thomas that we have just seen is still very incomplete and full of maneuver and tricks by his lawyers. >> one of the things that may cause republicans to come to the table, there is a gallup poll august 2nd that showed a record low for support in the supreme court among american people, about 40%. it has touched close to that back in 2006. does that healthier cause,? that's bad for america, that the level of trust so low. >> i think what really helps our cause is how disgusted the american people are with the behavior of these justices. around the country municipal employees, county employees, state employees, federal employees, and other federal judges all operate under codes of conduct. in rhode island you've got 3:25 dollar lunches a year, which have to be reported, and that's it if you're a municipal official. these guys are taking 250,000 dollar secret bag vacations paid for by billionaires who are known to be involved in manipulating the court. in the picture you are showing right now, one of the chief court manipulators, leonard leo, is sitting there looking over at harlan crow and justice thomas. the backdrop to this is an enormous amount of billionaire influence around the court, and this is a story that's going to continue to develop. >> and it is important, the point you just made, that these are people who have some connection to court business. initially when asked about these things and justices either prevaricating about whether or not they took these things are knew about them or why they did it, and then about the fact that these people potentially have business before the court. >> yeah. well, one billionaires hedge fund did have business before the court. other billionaires are the supporters of front groups, that final briefs as -- insert themselves into the business of the court. several of these billionaires are involved in the longer term overarching effort to capture and control the supreme court, to manipulate it and to turn it into a captured weapon for their political influence. >> senator, good to see you. thank you for joining us tonight. senator sheldon whitehouse of rhode island. still, had the right wing effort to ban books and reframe history. look at these empty shelves. libraries across the country. how do we avoid repeating the mistakes of the past while others tried to make america great again? 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to tweet this these men as prevalent terrorists would be the equivalent of the destruction of waco. the lawyer argued that an overly harsh sentence would be, quote, the equivalent of burning waco down. it will create a martyrdom syndrome that will resonate just as waco did among conspiracy theorists in this country, and quote. waco, by the way, than in the siege of the compound of an anti government cult leader 30 years ago has become a symbol of government overreach for the far-right. waco is where donald trump held his first 2020 campaign rally, framing himself as a victim of government overreach just before he was criminally indicted in manhattan. he told his supporters, quote, i am your warrior. i am your justice. i am your retribution, and quote. for the anti government and white supremacist extremists who say she waco is a rallying cry, its implication in defense of insurrectionists is a signal. we've seen this kind of anti government activity before, usually to preserve power 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gutted. books about race, gender, in american history have been banned. there's a right-wing battle to remove our history in the lessons that come with a size. joining us is someone who's been a target of this. abram ex candy, anti racism activist and author of books including how to be an anti racist which is among the most banned books in school libraries across the line the country. imagine that. professor, it's a treat. a couple of times this week you and i have had a chance to talk for all the wrong reasons. i appreciate you being here. couple of nights ago we did, alex did a big piece on new school in florida, and new college. there's a guy involved in that named christopher ruffo. some of our viewers will remember him from a few years ago. you'll remember, he sits on new colleges boards. he has criticized you and your work as critical race theory, and in a tweet from 2021, he said, he indigenous tragedy for turning the brand critical race theory toxic. it will bring it into being through writing and persuasion. he set out to do this. he's the guy who got all crazy about critical race theory. to some degree, it has been effective. >> indeed it has. and to speak to, actually, ruffo's ridiculousness, he actually framed me as one of the fathers or founders of critical race theory. and ali, critical race theory emerged in the late 1970s, some point to its origin in 1981 at hire harvard. i wasn't born until 1982. >> however this is an interests an instance of redefining words. your career has been spent on what words mean and how people communicate, including your burke, how to be an anti racist. this is interesting. it's an interesting republican strategy, taking words and using them against their opponents, the if i'm rubbery or glue argument. if you say they did something racist, they respond, which is what they exactly did to you, vivek ramaswamy did last week, no, you're the racist. you're like a kkk guy. they said that about you. >> indeed, and one of the reasons why they are able to say that is because they actually never defined the termed racism or racist. they refused to defer define those terms. if they were going to define racism as a collection of policies that are leading to racial inequities and are substantiated by ideas of racial hierarchy, they would see that they are supporting policies leading to an equity. they're blaming people as opposed to policies for those inequities. so they just don't define racism. when you don't define anything, you can call anything that. >> so you spent a lot of time actually studying these matters so that you can debate them, and you're prepared to debate them. is it interesting that in the last few years the concept of debating people like you, the idea that somebody disagrees with you doesn't debate you, they just discount you, the insult to, or they diminish you. why not debate ibram x. kendi if i don't agree with him? >> i think part of the challenge is oftentimes many of these individuals aren't really walking in facts and truth. and so when you are seeking to speak from the evidence and speak from truth and you're talking to somebody else who is saying that the earth is flat, who is saying that water is dry, it's hard to engage with. them i think that has been part of the challenge, because even a debate, is this really going to be two people shouting at each other? it's supposed to be constructively dialoguing and figuring out which idea is the best. >> let's talk a little about these structures that you talk about or that you would like us to discuss when we think about racism. in an unrelated matter, we received updated financial disclosures from justice clarence thomas who is justice through good marshals successor on the supreme court. given his concurring opinions indecisions like dobbs and students for fair missions, which ended affirmative action on the basis of race, thomas's legacy may just mean one of dismantling the very liberal policies that worked to get people like justice thomas to the bench. >> and i think that's one of the tragedies. indeed, he largely is doing his job. the only reason why he even was appointed to the supreme court was because he was a blackface who would support the attack on black people. and unfortunately he has done that over the course of his supreme court career. he has been well rewarded for it over the course of his career. and unfortunately people who look like him have suffered as a result of his supreme court career. >> when this country has made progressive strides in the past, we discuss this, there's always a backlash, either crackdown on voting rights in georgia after the state flipped to democratic control in 2020. like the book bans, the education restrictions we keep talking about. this sort of backlash does have disproportionate impact on not just minorities but the people who stories who have not been told, the peoples whose efforts are undertaken to tell these stories. tell me what you see happening. >> i think that's been one of the most difficult aspects of the last three years, i didn't live through the 1960s like my parents did. i did live through the 18 60s like my great great great grandparents did. but i did live through 2020. i was able to witness tens of millions of people in the smallest of towns in the largest of cities collectively recognizing that police violence was a problem, racism was a problem, that it was tearing us apart, that people were needlessly dying because of the color of their skin. and many of those people that shouted that black lives matter, many of those people who decided they were going to strive to be anti racist. so as a result, instead of us coming together as a human community to abolish racism once and for all, like we did chattel slavery, instead those who wanted to conserve racism made anti racism the problem. they made black lives matter of the problem. they made those people who are demonstrating against police violence the problem. >> that book was published in 2019, and before george floyd. and after that the rollout of discussions with people who said it's not my job to educate the public about this. but you took a different view. you had written a book about it. your view was, read the book. you can maybe help sort this thing out for yourself. and still they don't want to do it. your book has been targeted for bans more than most books in this country. the book, how to be an anti racist, if you wrote how to be a racist, i would understand why someone would want to ban it. i would fight it, but i would understand. he wrote how to be an anti racist. >> a book about the importance of racial equality, a book about the importance of valuing people no matter their skin color, a book about ensuring that we as human beings share power, that we eliminate inequity and injustice, that we make sure that a breonna taylor or a george floyd will never be murdered in the way they were in 2020. but unfortunately, an old white supremacist talking point is that anti racism is anti white. that idea goes all the way back to andrew johnson, the president united states in 1866, who vetoed the first ever civil rights act, which granted black people citizenship because he said it was aunties light. it didn't have anything to do with white people. it granted people who were denied citizenship their rights. >> ibram good to see you again. ibram x. kendi is a prolific author with important words we should all read we should all read. he'll be a guest on my new podcast. his episode airs on october, book the first three episodes of the velshi banned book club are out now. when it when we come back, is a summer of strikes transit to labor day weekend, the biden administration rolls out a proposal that could give millions of workers more money. we'll get reaction to the policy and the politics of all of it, with senator bernie sanders, after this. nders, after this. on vacation? it's too expensive. use 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>> i think what's going on now, ali, is that workers are catching on to the fact that in an america we see an unprecedented lever of corporate greed in company after company we're seeing record breaking profits. we're seeing more income and wealth inequality then weaver seen in the history of this country. yet today the average american worker in real inflation accounted for dollars is earning less than he or she did 50 years ago. so workers are saying you know what, hey, maybe in this economy we deserve a fair shake, and we're going to stand up and fight for it. and i think what the teamsters did in a contract negotiations with u.p.s., great step forward. they stood up, they were prepared to strike, they told u.p.s., which is making billions of profits, you know what, treat us like good, decent human beings, and that's what ended up happening. they won that conflict. we got to see that all over the country. >> i want to correct something, it's a flight attendants, and american airlines the devoted to other is a strike, not the pilots. but yeah, you're right, when i spoke to the head of the teamsters and i said u.p.s. is a big part of american gdp. are you worried that a strike can have an impact? and he said to be straight-up, it is what it is. we go on strike and a big chunk comes out of american gdp, we have to do what we have to do. >> look, people are catching online that the inflation that we have gone through really had not all that much to do with the war in ukraine, or a broken supply chain. it had to do with the fact that corporation after corporation, whether it's the oil industry, whether it's the food industry, whether it's those people with housing raising their prices and making huge profits. workers are organizing. they want to join unions. when they're in the union, they're fighting for a decent contract, and that's the right thing to do. what what i want to say to you, ali, in terms of the campaign that's coming, we've got to ask ourselves a very simple question. how does it happen that somebody like donald trump who was impeached twice, indicted four times, is a pathological liar, and i think most americans understand he is corrupt, you know, what he's running even with biden in the polls. what is that about? >> what is that about? >> what's that about? to my mind it's the millions of working class people out there who say i understand trump is a phony, but he claims at least to be standing for us. who cares about us? and we've got to do what the democrats have got to do, is begin to engage in class politics to understand that we have been in a class war now for decades, and the wrong class is winning. they've got to be clear in standing up for the working class of this country. raising the minimum wage, passing labor laws legislation making it easier for workers to join unions, reforming our health care system so that we move to universal health care system, not an 85 million uninsured are under insured. substantially lower the price of prescription diet drugs. build affordable housing. we need to stand up for the working class, not just for the good campaign contributors on the 1%. >> you and i have had talks about the universality of health care and why it's so we are that america doesn't have it. we have made a, certain people say, a very big step in the grand scheme of things it was a small step with a prescription drug discussion, taking these ten prescription drugs and allowing medicare to negotiate for them the same way costco negotiates for a better price on peanut butter because they're a bulk buyer. and everybody's out there calling it communism and socialist price fixing and all this stuff. it's a little stap. it's a meaningful step but it's a small step. >> it's not everybody, it's just the ruling class, it's just the pharmaceutical industry that makes tens of billions of dollars of profit every single year by charging us the highest prices in the world. it's a chamber of commerce. oh my god, imagine the government is actually doing something for working people to lower the cost of prescription drugs. this must be communism! this is awful and horrible! 80% of the american people support medicare negotiated prices. so it's not everybody. the vast majority of the people understand that the pharmaceutical industry is greedy. as you indicate, we have to go further. this is a small step forward. we're gonna reach a legislation which start something very simple. you know what, in america we should not be paying ten times more for the same dogs as canada or europeans are paying. we're gonna pay the same prices. i'm sure the industry will go crazy and put all kinds of 32nd hands on tv. but bottom line is, that's what the american people will want. health care, same thing. our health care system is totally broken. it should not be employer based health care. we've got to do as you and i have shattered about many times, what canada, what other countries do, health care is a human right, not a privilege. we should not be spending $13,000 for every man, woman, in child while 85 million are under insured or uninsured. >> as we gave it gets accused of being communist a lot, how do you explain to people that what this bill is about prescription drugs is causing people who wish to sell into medicare, which is a major distributor of drugs, to negotiate a price, to negotiate a price, not government control of the manufacturer of drugs. and again, if you don't want to negotiate a price, guess, what's a lot on the free market outside of medicare. that's your choice. >> this is such a radical idea, ali, it's wet every other major country in the world does. everybody. it's what the europeans do, it's what the canadians do. we're the only country in the world that says no, you want to charge, and this is really crazy stuff, half of the new drugs now coming on to the market, you know what their treatment is? over $200. it's insane. it's absolutely insane. people can't afford it. medicare is going to go bankrupt or premiums are going to go soaring. so what we have got to tell the pharmaceutical industry is, we want research, we want development, we want to deal with cancer, alzheimer's, davy, this all the stuff. but all you drugs in the world don't mean anything if people cannot afford it. the function of the pharmaceutical industry is to help cure disease, not to make billionaires even richer. >> is it your sense, i've only got a minute here, is it your sense the democrats are doing enough to tell people that they are working for them? i heard from you earlier that you said you don't see there. >> no. of course not. do not. that's why trump is doing as well as he is. i don't think that the average worker out there agrees with trump. let's give more tax breaks to billionaires, or who agrees with those who want to cut medicare, social security, education. but they don't believe that the democrats are standing up and fighting for them and taking on the corporate greed that exists out there. that's what the democrats should be doing. if they do that, biden is gonna win this election in a landslide. >> good to see you, as always. thank you for spending time with us tonight. vermont senator bernie sanders. we appreciated. that's our show for tonight. alex we'll be back next. week you can catch me this weekend on velshi this weekend. time now for the last word with jonathan capehart, in for lawrence o'donnell. jonathan, you and i used to have fun in the old days when my show came before yours, because i would come untied to you and i'd be in the whole thing. that we don't get. this sieler time you and i get to chat. >> i know. and it bums me out. but you know what? i keep hope alive. >> i appreciate that my friend. you have great. so >> all right, ali, thank you very much. the reality of the criminal indictment in georgia is settling in for donald trump after having his mugshot taken for the first time last week, today donald trump waived his right to appear at his arraignment on wednesday at 9:30 a.m., pleading not guilty to the 13 criminal charges against him for trying to steal the 2020 presidential election in georgia. the document he signed acknowledges, quote, i fully

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