political story that also affects your life, maybe your safety. it's the republican slide into extremism which ranges from the cartoonish to the very serious. this is "the beat," so we'll begin on the cartoonish side. republican senators are pushing what they call warning labels that they want to go up on tv in case you might see, run into or meet, say, a gay character or an lgbtq character. normally you might remember what these warnings were used for: violence, swearing, nudity that wouldn't be appropriate to show on tv below a certain age. but now they're saying if someone has a certain identity, that requires a warning for kids. and they point to shows like netflix, "she-ra and the princesses of power," or "danger force" on nickelodeon, and i'll just mention they do have some lgbtq characters or themes. >> the sword has chosen you. the time has come for your destiny. >> hey, sam. >> hi, muna. hi! >> let's try that -- >> that's right. >> my cool face. >> now, you decide whether that is the kind of thing that you have to get a warning about up front. of course, you also have to figure out when you look at stories like this and this kind of politics whether this is serious or just descent into triggering and trolling. what next? is there a worry that characters don't fit the maga dream to get america going again? what about when donald trump lost? do they need a warning about him being a loser? that's the cartoonish and maybe not taken so seriously. on the other end there is the politically grave fallout of a supreme court that according to a confirmed draft is about to overturn roe v. wade. look what's happening in louisiana. this is about actual legislation, not labels. days after that leak, republicans are pushing a formal bill, they want it to become law, that would make abortion treated under the law like homicide. >> we cannot wait on the supreme court to confirm that babies have a right to life in louisiana. the active abortion ends the life of a human being. the taking of a life is murder and it is illegal. >> that is a direct line from overturning roe to people, in this case, what you just heard from, men in government, in power saying they will treat fertilization as life and anything in that process as murder. you go down the road from there and you're way past it. you have men or women or potentially doctors or somebody selling birth control under this type of bill going on trial for murder, for homicide. i want to talk to two guys who understand both the ridiculousness we started with and the seriousness we end with. simone sanders who is now the new host "simone." she is also a democratic strategist. she recently worked for vice president harris and mike. we go from the ridiculous to the seriousness. >> i'm glad you talked about that louisiana bill. i have been saying since last week this is about the criminalization of women, of people who aid those women in getting the health care that they need that is the form of an abortion, the doctors that administer that. this is extreme. not even people who don't personally believe in abortion think that this is okay. and that is exactly what we should be exposing and what we should be discussing. it's not just louisiana. there are trigger laws currently on the books right now that would jail women and doctors and people who aid them, who would fine them if roe is overturned. i'm talking wisconsin, idaho, georgia, alabama. the list goes on. >> michael, when you look at 49 years of history in a row, and we just got back from being in front of the court for a couple days, seeing the reactions pouring out, what do you see in history unfolding in what many people we heard from in front of the court felt was us going backwards? then the line to louisiana, the draft hasn't even come down yet. we'll see what the final ruling is. but you already have this rush to treat women as murderers for something they may do within their own body. >> they're telling us in advance, and may a say welcome, symone, to msnbc. people can't wait to watch at 4:00 tomorrow, can they? >> yes, thank you. >> my pleasure. much of american history has been an effort to marginalize everyone who is not white and male and protestant and straight, and it looks as though it's going back that way again. oftentimes we ever repressive periods in american history and we don't have warnings. what you just showed us, ari, every american should take a warning of the way things are going to be unless we act. it reminds me so much of the speech that ted kennedy gave in 1987 when ronald reagan had nominated robert burke to the supreme court, a nomination that failed in part, because kennedy said, if robert is confirmed, america will be full of back alley abortions by butchers, examine it will be a country where people are not allowed to learn about evolution, and writers are told what to write, and there will be a rogue police going wild. kendi was considered really extreme around that time, but strogingly it's looking as if its predictions are coming to pass unless we act. >> i hear a little bit of that. i want to play a little coming out of minnesota. this is a state that's poor. this is a state that has the highest -- i don't see houfl anyone can call themtsz pro life and put themtsz in this predicament. >> she cited the proclamation for women. latino women, native american women. the numbers nationally in this country. i've seen this tweet a couples times and in this -- people are struggling to put food in their mouths andly aly table are pages. >> many of this is a gateway drug. this is bigger. first they're making a decision for women to prior tie which invariably means you spernlt spends up by os moez some of the other things, you can't just pull out one block and then claim everything else is fine. if there isn't a right to privacy, if there isn't what the court sometimes calls a clumsy phrase, intimate sexual decision making, then you go back to bans on racial marriage, bans on who can marry, which was seen by many as a form of progress in this country which, by the way, included some republican appointees. theyful, what makes anyone that some plamsz take them to other countries. that's what sproemplt to meeting. it's a very high bar to kick someone off the ballot, but she argued that they failed to prove their case with the preponderance. it does clear her to be on the ballot and it's a finding by the judge -- i want to make sure people know it was in the news the other day -- they did not prove she was active enough in an insurrection to be kicked off the constitutional requirement. walk us through your reaction, what this means. i should say, by the way f -- if you're a candidate by office, that is bad. but it is a legal victory for her, michael. >> it is for her and our system goes all sorts of ways. that's the way our process operates. you're the last person i need to mention that to. here's a situation where it's like 1865. did you want people who conspired against the government of the united states to join the confederacy, made war against the north, made the even participated and plans to assassinate abraham lincoln and others, did you want those people running for office and sitting in the congress and being active in political life? 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because its chief at the time said that he would prefer it if american black entertainers did not mention or associate with krystal. this is really true. he was getting shout-out in songs. what can we do? can't forbid people from buyingterm i'm sure dorm pairing, can't forbid black people from buying your champ shane. get out of here. today entrepreneurs are building their own brands and companies instead of coveting french champagne including diddy, rihanna. they have worked with rick ross and lil wayne and many more and that brings to us a figure. when jay-z moved beyond boycotting crystal to competing with his own brand he worked with bearish on his own champagne. he's forged these bonds with artists half his age tapping into what is a rising interest and ownership online and a youth culture and we just down with him for his beat debut on his summit series trying to learn more about his tipsy iconoclasm. >> what did you do that was different say than the old school european mod snell. >> let the brand be past of somebody's culture or personality or part of their life-style or oh, and it works and i just think that you can't overmanage brands. they are like -- i treat them like children. they are kids. >> some of those other groups are almost just trying to have a level of control that doesn't work or that isn't realistic, and you look at it more like if -- if different new folks whoever they want want to play in this sandbox you welcome it. >> 100%, so whether it's -- whether it's currency or wiz or lil wayne or khalid, they are all different. don't run away when people approach you. you've got to embrace the crap out of them because that's a fan. >> that's a lot of the culture side. let's talk about the business side. how do you come into a space like that? that is as old as old can get? >> the hardest part is not listening to everybody because in -- in a normal course your industry, whatever industry you're in, somebody is going to tell you don't do it and for me jesus you're launching rose first. if this was ari, why are you doing rose, i want to do brut. you put it in a black bottle, why did you do it? i want to be different. >> let's pause on that. what type of people were saying don't start with rose? >> everybody. everybody in my industry, the trade, distributors, the retailers. >> most people if they hear from the people with experience and the people with expertise and the people who, again, this is business, who have made money, if they all agree and say don't do it that way, most people say okay. why -- what is it about this that made you do something different? >> it's -- if you -- i'll put it differently. my first six years were complete hell and it's because i listened to everybody i.listened to everybody tell me exactly what to do, and i think it's important for anybody starting a business. if you're going to go do something, you're doing it for your reason. you've got to trust your instincts because it sucks if you make that decision based on somebody else, and -- and why did you do it to begin with? why did you get involved? >> this is part of our summit series where we spend more time in these lengthy interviews, more in-depth, really talking to people who have reached a summit in their field. he talk about the pandemic, being authentic, his views on legalizing marijuana and some of the artists he's worked with. before we end here's some final sizzle highlights. >> normal doesn't live here. >> you've also said don't think too big. what do you mean by that? >> i couldn't step into a multi-billion dollar, you know, giant company, you about i can build one from the ground up. having a plan can be the worst possible thing because if you stick to it you're screwed if you are wrong. if you pivot constantly you can be successful. if i run out of ideas i'll stop. >> one word to describe jay-z? >> fan. >> post malone, i crushed him at beer popping. >> lil wayne. >> he's just so cool. no one knows who the lil wayne. >> i have a drink bar at 3:00 a.m. in germany they can't believe that they heard of me. >> i wish i could hit you back with another bar. it's not about money, there's no quick way to get there, just -- just do what you love, be passionate about it. >> do what you love. tap your passion and don't think too big. a lot of interesting stuff in here, i've got to tell you. never heard of bret bearish, you've heard of him now. you can get that full interview. it runs overhalf an hour. or go to youtube. it's up n.o.w. and you can search melber and berish on youtube and watch the whole in-depth interview. got into the a lot of different stuff and it's been a week and i'm going to end with a question. find me @ari melber and the question is this. what drink do you need to end the week? what drink would you have after a week like this? i will tell you mine. it's only fair that bourbon on the rocks. visit me @ari melber or ari melber.com and let me know what drink you might want going into this weekend. that does it for us. thanks for spending team with me as always. "the reidout" starts now. good evening, everyone. i'm jason johnson sitting in for joy reed. we begin "the reidout" tonight with the battle for ukraine. russian forces continue their brutal and unrelenting assault on the steel company in mariupol where 200 terrorized civilians remain hunkered down and looking for a way out. united nations is racing to rescue more civilians from the labyrinth of tunnels under the besieged steel works factory. with two busloads leaving today. people who were able to flee describe horrifying conditions with little food, water or medicine. roughly 2,000