lie, the other searches for a message that would stick. as the 11th hour gets underway on this friday night. good evening, i'm christiane stepping in for stephanie ruhle. on tonight, and your bunch of text messages between mark meadows and sean hannity revealing just how closely they work together to push trump's big lie. cnn reports they exchanged more than 80 messages between election day in 2020, and joe biden's inauguration. they suggest hannity was at times louis a fox news host, and more a white house advisor. even a researcher. on november 20, ninth 2020, he wrote, i've had my team digging into the numbers. there's no way biden got those numbers. just mathematically impossible. it's so sad for this country that they can pull this off in 2020. we need a major breakthrough. meadows replied, you're exactly right. working on a breakthrough. but about a month later, as it became clear trump's efforts to challenge the election were going nowhere in the courts, and he began to criticize some of the people pushing trump's case. he sent this to meadows on december 22nd. quote, you fighting is fine. the effing lunatic's is not fine. they are not helping him. i'm fed up with those people. nbc news hasn't seen these texts. cnn reports there amongst 2300 messages mark meadows gave the general six committee. the panel is not preparing to interview more witnesses. they will hold hearings in june to reveal the findings of the investigation. >> the information that has been released by the committee and the subpoenas on letters we've issued, things that are coming out of the public and otherwise, it's just the tip of the iceberg. there's so much information having interviewed 8500 witnesses. we have 100,000 documents. i think there is much more that will be of interest as we tell the story from beginning to end. >> the criminal investigation into the riot is also moving forward. today, a second member of the oath keepers, not only pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy. he is now cooperating with prosecutors. as for the former presidents own legal troubles, and you are grand jury considering a potential criminal case expire today. without filing any charges. but a judge rejected trump's request to drop a contempt ruling against them. saying, the former presidents affidavit is, quote, devoid of any useful detail. trump's being fined $10,000 a day for refusing to submit records subpoenaed by the new york attorney general in a civil case. with that, let's bring in our experts. harry lippman, former u.s. attorney. and former deputy assistant attorney general. peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the new york times. and luke broadwater, congressional porter for the new york times. good to see all of you. harry, the committee also asked sean hannity for an interview. so they got these texts. what else do you think that might be open to hear from him? and just these messages, do they reveal enough to help their case? >> definitely filed their case. this is so beyond the pale of a former press relationship, right? he's not even being just a mouthpiece for the government, he's been a policy maker. he is taking advice from meadows, giving advice to meadows. this is the antithesis of what you think an organ of the press i'd be doing. but the real focus now, he probably doesn't have any criminal exposure, but meadows might. so, yes, to the extent that it reveals meadows either knowledge of the violence, or possibly what he's done in these phony slave electors. that could zero in on medals. i think, though, there are mainly looking to tow the story. they're not looking for any dramatic moments, but they want to put one foot in front got there. you will see largely a ground game with a few 20 yard attempts. but, it's really one foot off to the other. and even for meadows, i think they will look lost to him. it doesn't seem there will be time for that. and more people like cassidy hutchinson, as a two did give them from an upper information about him. >> peter, i think terry's point, these show sean hannity the acting almost like a shadow chief of staff. do we know just how far that went? or do we at least know more about how far that went? and can we just talk about how unusual this is? >> yeah, certainly unusual. certainly for a regular journalist, even opinion hosts are generally not supposed to be participating in a politicians operation effects. but the rules of always meant different from the fox news evening co-hosts. and we know this about sean hannity. we know that he was a regular telephone confidant of president trump. the president calling before a show, or call off the show. it's like about what he said on the show. the president literally a one point in 2018 midterm elections called sean hannity on the stage, on a campaign reality, and had to be one of their, and give a campaign speech basically. trashed the press, and those of us on the back of the, room and saying that the enemy, if the big news people, including, by the, way a fox news correspondent happened to be back there. he has really been a member of the team. look at the heat in the texts he sent, he said i'm on the team. in other words, he was participating with manafort and trying to undercut the validity of the moral investigations. so even on this for a. longtime these checks bring home, and a very driven way, just how intertwined sean hannity with the white house. particularly in those final weeks, to be part of a. >> speaking of the fox host, look, there are other texts from fox hosts maria. cnn has one from never internet 2020 just before she interviewed trump. and it seems to start with some advice, quote, high, the public wants to know if you will fight this? they want to hear a path to victory. and he's in control. and then the tech seem seemingly to go on to feed the cost and she is going to ask trump. writing, you've said many times that this election is rigged, and the facts are on your side. let's start there, what are the facts? characterize what took place here. and here's our actual question to trump on the air later that's a morning. >> mister president, you've said many times of this election was rigged. that there was much fraud. and the facts are on your sides. let's start there. please go to the facts. characterize with took place. >> look, is it fair to say, a big takeaway this wave seems to be how all these text messages reveal extraordinary level of cooperation and coordination between the trump white house and these other entities. capitol hill, the trump campaign, and, obviously, conservative media. >> yeah the fox hosts very much for acting as, you know, hand in love with trump white house here. these are normal journalistic practices, no. no one of the new york times is giving the questions to interview subjects well in advance and then coaching them through how to answer them. but, i do think, particularly, the sean hannity talks show at some point, sean hannity becomes concerned about this plan. it was leading on for a while. and then you start to say, well, a very worried about how these 48 hours are gonna go. i don't like what's happening with the vice president. on the whole white house counsel office could've resigned if they went forward with this. and then after january 6th, after the attack on the capitol, he calls trump, and have a conversation. and those meadows, he doesn't like we heard from trump. and that he's got to stop talking about the fake stolen election that he's obsessed with. and so, it's very interesting and sight to see sean hannity, who's one of donald trump's most ardent supporters. realize that this has gone way too far. and, you know, we've crossed some line here. we've got to bring it back. to, me those very revealing to what he actually knows is the truth about what happened on january 6th. >> and, harry, this work later today. marjorie taylor greene's lawyer arguing in your that's aimed at keeping her name on the ballot, argues not only did she not play a direct role in inciting the january 6th insurrection, she is in, fact this is as where, as a victim of the attack on the capitol. that she's been targeted and in political spirit campaign. what do you make of that as a legal argument? she is the victim. >> we are living in an alice in wonderland world where, you know, both the press and here, top's bottom and bottom's top. she certainly showed herself to be not candid in the proceedings last week. and, on paper, she's in a little bit of hot water, even though it's a very exotic kind of plan to keep her off the ballot. but you do, see she's actually in the aftermath of the sixth, along with maybe two others, brooks and go over. the most rabid calling for martial law and the like. so, basically, it's funny, but it's part of the playbook. maybe not so funny that they always retreat to a grievance. first outrage, then grievance. and she's doing the same, on the victim here. and, you know, it's just a label. it doesn't go the facts at all. >> and, look, the committee chairman said today that they will send that more letters are costing interviews, that hasn't happened. should worry that anything into? are they waiting until after the big correspondents dinner tomorrow? what are you hearing about these additional letters going on? >> i suspect they'll come early next week. they weren't quite ready, and they're pushing up against a friday night, and i just made my sense the put them on next week. i do think they will go to new members of congress who have not received letters yet for interviews. so far the committee is asking for interviews from concurrently, jim jordan, and scott perry. we could see that there are at least 11 members of congress who were meeting regularly with the white house the plan all january six objection and potentially even the rallies and potentially much on the capitol. so, i expect some of those names to get letters next week. >> anybody on the senate side to hearing? >> well, we know -- obviously, ted cruz and josh hawley led the elections over there. we know that mike lee showed up in the mark meadows text messages. so, there are some obvious source -- obvious witnesses they want to have interviews from. and, you know, i haven't heard exactly who they sometime to. it is a little bit of the norm for congress for the house to ask questions with senators, that almost never happens. and so, would be interesting to see if they take that step. but then benny thompson the say that senators could potentially be called. >> and, let's talk about -- the concern there would run up against them in terms now. they're really gonna start these hearings really as these midterm campaigns are getting underway in earnest. planning to release a report in the fall. i mean, is this investigation at risk here of getting lost and all of that? getting lost in the election, and getting lost in whatever happens in terms of control of congress? >> well, does it affect the campaign? that is the question, and compel in the front ways. i think democrats in the past have discovered that they won elections that the side not to focus on trump in the thousand 18 during the midterms. and they felt like and virginia lost-year-old al positive, when the focus too much on trump when he wasn't on the bella. the voters punished him for it. they should focus on health care. but, it may be that hearing a lot of democrats say, increasingly, that this election will turn on the, and would they'll say, as you want to hand over the power of the congress then you're gonna handed over to marjorie taylor greene. turning it over to some of the other people have been talking about. therefore, and that sounds, the focus on the dinner six events who were here in a report may point to the strategy. >> peter baker, harry lippman, luke broadwater, thank you esper being with us on a friday. the russians treachery group of the conflicts and ukraine will into 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nation is watching. the other thing that has happened here, chris, in the last 12 hours. the president gave his daily address announced that there was yet another mass grave found somewhere in and around kyiv. his spokesperson updating, saying it was found yesterday. we do not have further details on how many people were in that grave. but just another indication that this war is continuing in the, east and while the cleanup continues where i am, they are still uncovering these atrocities, chris. >> cal perry in kyiv, thank you. barry mccaffrey, a decorated combat -- and ivo daalder, former ambassador to nato, general let me start with where cal perry left off. we had this conversation before. but every day that goes by, the more desperate the situation in mariupol becomes. talk to us about the difficulty of trying to do everything they can to get people out of there. to just somehow save as many lives as they possibly can. >> chris, certainly upfront, we have watched a deliberate 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officials said russia is taking colossal losses. but we know in the eastern part of the country, so our ukrainians. the pentagon says russia's offensive appears stalled. maybe it is several days behind schedule, they say. where do you see this conflict right now? >> well, first of all, putin and his generals cannot fix the russian army in less than a year or so. they can't adopt, they can get less stupid and their tactics, but they are a damaged force. their logistics don't work very well, their battalions are undisciplined, and cruel to civilians. their morale is low. they have taken -- we are saying publicly, 25% of the initial invasion force or casualties. with huge losses of equipment. on the other hand, ukraine is now basically one on one with manpower facing the russian army inside ukraine. and it is a race against time for them to achieve parity in military technology given the magnets fist and support they are now starting to get out of both the u.s., and the 41 nations that 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president, donald trump, continues to talk about the 2020 election. is it time for the republican party to move forward? >> i have discussed with president trump and we cannot move on. >> with us tonight, mara gay, part of the new york times alec editorial board. and tim miller, contributor to the bulwark. his new book, why we did it comes out june 20th. so, tim, i'm not sure we have enough time to enumerate all the controversies developing madison cawthorn. being detained for bringing a loaded gun to an airport, again. charged with driving with a revoked license, again. falsely accusing his colleagues of cocaine fueled orgies. and then of course, marjorie taylor greene, etc. how much do these fringe candidates and the headlines they generate hurt the republican party? >> thanks, chris. and i appreciate the book review. i wrote why we did it because i feel like everyone every time i'm on these shows, somebody is asking me, why are the republicans going so crazy? what happened? what are these guys? doing so, i want to explain it and i did my best in longer than a two-minute segment in the book. here's the thing, these guys, the cawthorn's and the greens, i've got bad news for the democrats, their craziness is not going to be the thing that allows the democrats to control the house and the senate in november. it's just not. voters are not going to vote what somebody in some other districts said that's crazy, when they're concerned about gas prices and other things in their day-to-day lives. here's what could matter though. those second clips. the clips of the candidates that republicans are nominating that are absolutely insane. for secretary of state, governor, senator, across swing states, in places like michigan, pennsylvania. in michigan, just last weekend, they nominated to people who are far right, like my pillow level, qanon conspirators and how much they want to talk about the 2020 election being fraudulent. that is not going to work. and i think when the democrats can do what jamie raskin was doing, if they can read ads about the actual candidates on the ballot -- not donald trump, people in other states -- but the candidates on ballots and their states. and see these people are gonna help you with inflation. all these people want to talk about is donald trump's fantasies and conspiracies about the last election that led to january six, that could have an impact. i think nominating those candidates is a big risk for republicans. in what is otherwise a good political environment for. them >> and yet, mara, many republicans want to label democrats as the radicals. earlier today, matthew dowd said that characterization of this big lurch left a sick simply not accurate. take a listen. >> if you think about the center of the country, let's call it the st. louis suburbs, the center of the country -- let's grant that the democrats might have moved to kansas city. not far away, but might have moved to kansas city. the republicans have left the united states and have moved to hungry, or move to russia. >> he argues, mara, that one party has gotten much more extreme and it's not the democrats. but, and this is about, that republicans are just better at their messaging. is he right? >> i have to completely agree. i would also see that the virginia gubernatorial election last time around, i think, is very instructive as a word of warning for democrats. which is to say that i think democrats need to stop using the language of republican party to defend themselves and to get their message to americans. they seem to be in constant reaction mode to whatever republicans are accusing them of. so, it's like a schoolyard threat. you are a radical. no, no, you are the radical one. and i think that democrats really need to kind of pull back a second and ask themselves what their narrative is. what their story is. what their message is to the american people. and they should really focus on that rather than constantly reacting to whatever message -- >> that the do they have a message? what is that message? >> do they have a message? great question. they have a lot of policies that could help the american people. and they are the only party right now that is deeply committed to democracy, and that's a problem. i certainly don't come on the show's to defend the democratic party or offered them advice. that's not my interest. and yet, there is only one party in the united states right now that is committed to democracy. and so, they really need to turn their policies into a productive message that they can deliver on. and it's a very difficult environment when all politics is local. and in the swing districts, okay, it's not going to be decided on madison cawthorn. it's going to be decided on again, gas prices. on issues closer to home. the pandemic. the inflation crisis. so, i think that the democrats should stop reacting and they should start getting their message straight. >> let's look at one example, tim, that i think a lot of people are examining, to see where this is going. ohio. j.d. vance. of course, his numbers surge with trump's endorsement, but republican challenger matt dolan is keeping the race competitive. and there's still a lot of undecideds. how do you read that race now? and maybe more to the point of this conversation, what will the outcome of that primary tell us about the power of trump and the state of the republican party? >> i don't know that the outcome is going to tell a truth that much. because we know right now that trump has a plurality support within the party. what's happening in ohio is that dolan who is running as maybe your traditional gym bush kind of republican, is one of five candidates. and then there are four candidates that are like maga light, my gut premium, maga extra, extra premium. and then you have j.d. vance, who sucking up to donald trump's kids and campaigning with marjorie taylor greene. he's the one that is the in the league right now. i think it's possible that dolan could sneak through, because it's a five re-race. i think if you're an independent in ohio watching the show right now, i would support dolan's candidacy in that primary. i think it's more likely that vance as the maga extra, extra premium, will end up winning. and then, he's going to be up against tim ryan, who is a center left, kind of old school bill clinton style union democrat. i think that is the kind of contrast that democrats need. for democrats to have a chance they need to attack the republicans as being outside the mainstream. to conspiratorial. to concert about donald donald trump. and run on pocketbook issues there themselves. it is vance versus right, that can be a good example where works out for democrats in ohio. other states not as good. >> before we go, in our closing minute mara, i want to ask about the 30th anniversary about the start of the l.a. riots. your most recent times piece argues that the discourse around race and policing is still stuck in the 90s. there have been so much conversation about moving forward. is this an issue democrats, again, need to have clear messaging on? what, three decades after the crumbling bill? >> i think it is. we do have an issue in cities across america with crime on the rights. >> i voters care about it, they've made it clear, right? >> the problem is, i think, in my view mayors and others need to be talking about getting guns off the street and about professional professionalize in americas police departments. and also holding them accountable so that we can actually have some trust from citizens to the police departments. and vice versa. so, i think the problem here with mayor adam's message is he's defending, he's been defending, some old school policies that really have not been proven to be effective, and have shown extreme levels of collateral damage in black and brown communities across america for generations. so, there's this idea that you have to have aggressive policing, or allow police departments to do whatever they like with no accountability. or we're going to have made him in the streets. and that is both an ineffective way to keep people safe, because it doesn't work. and extremely harmful. so, we have to really get this right. we have to do better. >> mara gay, tim miller, think you both. coming up, the immediate humanitarian needs of ukrainian refugees in poland is one a crisis. the lasting psychological trauma is another. doctor irwin redlener just back from poland, joins us next. when the 11th hour continues. next when the 11th hour continues n boost eye drops for instant moisture. biotrue uses naturally inspired ingredients. and no preservatives. try biotrue cal: our confident forever plan is possible with a cfp® professional. a cfp® professional can help you build a complete financial plan. visit letsmakeaplan.org to find your cfp® professional. ♪♪ you're a one-man stitchwork master. but your staffing plan needs to go up a size. you need to 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sudden we have this indiscriminate, horrendously cruel attacks on civilian communities. regular neighborhoods in suburbia and flattening of towns. we heard the consequence of that directly from the mouths of some of these children. we spent five hours, chris, and a high school, in warsaw. high school number one, that has 50 ukrainian high school kids. i spoke to two of the classes with these kids and i heard stories that were just -- my here stands up. like you said, we've seen all sorts of terrible things. children suffering after major disasters. i've seen children suffering in other refugee situations. but these kids, i'd like to just tell you one of the stories, the principle related to me about a 15 year year old who was stone silent, facial expressions expressionless. he said what happened to her was they were in an apartment building near mariupol, and the bombing started in their apartment building in the middle of the night. she will kick it up, she had two kids. through them in the car. took a few things with her. they were on the road with a few other of their neighbors with other children in the cars, and they got two miles away from where they had lived, and a russian missile hit the car directly in front of them. blew it to smithereens. they had two children in there that her kids knew. so, this kid gets to a high school in poland, in warsaw, very welcoming. that she is stone depressed and nonresponsive, and who can blame her. the question is, what's going to happen to her? >> yes -- and i mean we just saw save the children releasing some pictures that young children were drawing. and they do that as a kind of therapy that, they are drawing pictures that have tanks and bombs and even that people. >> yes. >> what are these detrick where these children go to face and what are we as humanitarians need to know that they're going to need in terms of health? >> first of all, there is the immediate needs that they have. they need shelter. they need safety, they need food, they need water. but immediately after that, for children, comes these other macro worries. how much psychological impact and trauma have they had? what are we going to do about that? and the second thing is that the discontinuity, that interruption up their and education could have lifelong consequences for these children. something that karen and i are both very concerned about. and one of the things we're gonna be focusing on is trying to get people to support the ability of children to get the psychological support that they need. but also, to get back into some sort of educational trajectory, so they don't undermine the opportunities for a successful life later on. but it's a really big problem. and the numbers are massive. the city of warsaw has somewhere between 15 and 20% increase in its population in a matter of a few weeks, from these refugees coming in. and it's tough, and our sieve sympathy, our jim generosity i hopeless. but who knows, there is no end in sight to this nightmare of a war that putin has started. and how long are people in the world going to be able to sustain people who are trying to get to safety? >> an important reminder that the need is going to continue far beyond when it is many maybe top of the newscast every night. and thanks to you and current on all the other people who have gone to see it firsthand and are committed to seeing this through. thank you, irwin, great to see you in person person. >> you too, chris. thanks. >> those mocking moments 11 years ago that may have changed politics in this country for good. when the 11th hour continues. whenhe t 11th hour continues after just 2 doses. skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms such as fever, sweats, chills, muscle aches, or coughs, or if you plan to, or recently received a vaccine. ♪ 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[laughs] >> the last thing before we go tonight, what could go wrong? it's the return of the annual washington weekend event that everyone loves to heat. the white house correspondents dinner is back tomorrow night, after a two-year pandemic break. in fact, that many social events surrounding this so-called nerd prom are already underway. now, to be fair, there's more to this weekend than just letting washington insider smoothed with celebrities. the white house correspondents association says a exists to promote excellence in journalism, as well as journalism education and ensure robust news coverage of the president and the presidency. tomorrow, they will give out scholarships and awards. but it will also mark the first time the sitting president has attended the dinner since 2016. which gets us to the nerd prom moment, 11 years ago, tomorrow, that they will have shifted the political course in washington for good. it all started when the incumbent commander in chief decided to poke fun at the, shall we say, trumped up scandal over his birth certificate. >> donald trump -- [applause] is here tonight [laughs] i know that he's taken some flak lately. but no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest then the donald. [laughs] and that's because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter. like did we fake the moon landing? [laughs] what really happened in roswell. ? and where are biggie and tupac? [laughs] [applause] [laughs] all kidding aside, obviously we all know about your credentials and breadth of experience. [laughs] for example, no, seriously just recently -- in an episode of celebrity apprentice, at the steakhouse, the men's cooking team did not impress the judges from omaha steaks. [laughs] and there was a lot of blame to go around, but you, mr. trump, recognize that the real problem was a lack of leadership. and so, ultimately, you didn't blame little john or meatloaf. [laughs] you fired gary beuse. [laughs] and these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up at night. [laughs] say what you will about mr. trump, he certainly would bring some change to the white house. we see what we've got up there. [laughs] >> those jokes, at the expense of a notoriously thin skin demand, convince many pundits that it was that dinner that convince donald trump to run. from the washington post, quote, trump was humiliated by the experience, they say, that it triggered some deep previously hidden yearning for revenge. so, not only will people be watching tomorrow's event to see if it turns out to be a major superspreader event. they'll also be listening to see if someone says something at the podium that just might once again impact politics for years to come. and on that note, i wish you a good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thank you for staying up late. and have a great weekend. and have a great weekend thank you to you at home for joining us this hour. we start tonight in gettysburg pennsylvania where this happened last week. just see if you can figure out what is going on here. >> oh yeah. thank you. >> you are welcome. bless you. wow.

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