demands by the russians as they defy demands to surrender to putin. mariupol mayor's said if mariupol is hell, azovstal is worse. the u.n. secretary-general was in kyiv wrapping up a meeting with president zelenskyy when russian bombs fell on the capital. the strikes killed at least one person and shook the confidence of tens of thousands of others only just returning home. and we are learning more about a u.s. citizen killed in combat in ukraine. 22-year-old willie joseph died while working with a contract company. a former u.s. marine signed up to fight in ukraine shortly after the war broke out at the end of february. meanwhile, on the front lines of this war, russia is behind schedule in its campaign for the donbas. according to an assessment from u.s. officials. russian forces remain focused on that region where they are targeting infrastructure like railways, bridges, and townhouses. matt, i know you're under curfew right now. you're back inside. i'm struck again by what happened yesterday in kyiv, the fact that city was bombed when the u.n. secretary-general was there. i'm also struck by what's happening in mariupol today. do you have any word on whether anybody has been able to get out? >> as a matter of fact, katy, we just finished speaking with a fighter who is in that azovstal plant. putin said they wouldn't be storming the steel plant, just seal it off. he described several hundred civilians, including many children underground, some of them pretty severely wounded. there was that strike against the field hospital in the plant or around the plant. so it looks as though the russians are continuing to bombard this plant, despite the presence of civilians and despite that fact that vladimir putin had called off any further incursions in there. he said they have infinite amounts of ammunition. hard to believe what they were saying about that. he did say food and water are limited and that this is a problem. he said he personally isn't going hungry, mostly subsisting on mres. he described an environment that was very interesting, one in which the idea of surrender was something he didn't even consider. he heard of some comrades of his who had surrendered to the russians and spoke them in scathing terms, derogatory way. it seems the environment amongst these soldiers is they are making their last stand, they will be fighting to the end. he told me as soon as he wants to, he will walk out of that plant under his own feet, that he feels no need to stay there. his movement is not limited by the russians who say they've surrounded that plant and as vladimir putin had said sealed it off so that even a fly couldn't get inside. he says that there are still ways of getting in and out of the plant but he did say he's hoping to see that civilian evacuation. that's something that's been planned ever since thursday, yesterday, or mentioned by the secretary-general of the united nations. it was mentioned again by president volodymyr zelenskyy of ukraine. we haven't heard anything else about that civilian evacuation but we do know the situation under the plant, inside of it is bad and getting worse. >> so what about this assessment from the u.s. that the russians are behind schedule in the donbas? what exactly does that mean? >> reporter: well, what it means is it looks like the russians haven't learned their lesson. this is the russians' fight to lose. they have a much more superior military, many more people, much more sophisticated technology. and this is favorable terrain in the eastern part of the country. it's open prairie. it's where the step that goes all across russia kind of begins in eastern europe so it should be easier for them to fight, easier for them to deploy, a military that for them really depends on heavy munitions. and also there's a more favorable genuine, more pro moscow sentiment and still don't seem to making much ground. >> tell me about what the pentagon is saying, dan. >> the pentagon is saying exactly that, that the russians are making at best slow, uneven progress in that eastern donbas region. they're launching air strikes. they're launching artillery strikes, but they're meeting stiff resistance from the ukrainian forces and there's no sign of some kind of swift advance there. there are reports of casualties on both sides, significant casualties. the ukrainians claim the russians are suffering even worse casualties. so a heavy bombardment there. it's so heavy that it's very difficult for journalists to get there and document exactly what's going on to give a clearer picture. but the question really remains here, katy, is can the russians organize themselves and flailing and struggling now for more than 60 days? at the same time you have weapons flowing into the ukrainian forces so they'll be able to withstand this russian offensive. a long battle is looming now in that donbas area. >> gentlemen, thank you very much. russian president vladimir putin says any foreign intervention in ukraine will prevent a, quote, lightning fast response from moscow. while the threat was direct, putin was light on details leaving many european countries wondering about his next move. earlier russia turned off natural gas supplies to bulgaria and poland but today the european union announced it is ready to finalize a phased embargo on russian oil imports. what will that mean for russia and the eu. joining us is france's ambassador to the u.s. mr. ambassador, thank you very much for being with us. i am very interested in the tit for tat here. the russians turni the gas in bulgaria and poland, big deal. maybe going to germany next, who knows about france. you can tell me probably. and then the eu not saying, oh no, but instead saying we're going to tighten the screws more against russia. talk to me about that calculation. >> first, thank you for all of the invitation. it is not a surprise that russia uses this blackmailing with gas. we have started to prepare ourselves. france has a chair of the european union. so we had a meeting of the leaders of the european countries in versailles near paris two months ago and we decided to work very hard and very quickly on our independence from imports of russian energy. we already decided a ban on coal and now indeed the question is oil. we, our president, has made clear already some time ago that we are ready for france to advance in oil. it is not as easy for other countries, especially for gas, because we do not depend all to the same extent on import of russian gas. france depends less, much less, because we have our nuclear energy but it is for us a question of principle because we want to act as eu to become independent european union to get stronger. this is the reason why we have convened this monday a meeting and extraordinary meeting of energy minister, to react as an act of solidarity to the ban of russian gas for bulgaria and poland and also we have the six speculative sanctions being prepared. this is a reason why you got some news about oil. >> so the word has been that vladimir putin has been surprised at the unity of the west, the unity of the european union and of nato. and one of the focusses has been on germany because germany does rely so heavily on russian gas and whether germany could withstand russian retaliation, germany is sending heavy a till artillery, heavy weaponry. are there concerns that the union itself would need to prop up germany if they get into a position where they don't have enough heating abilities for their civilians past this next winter? >> it's a good question because for gas, i don't speak about oil but for gas the decisive moment will be the next winter, how to refill our storages of gas. it is clearly the direction to which -- in which we work together with the u.s., with other providers of natural gas and it is not only germany but other countries, germany, including who are very dependent. so we are as the eu, we want to act together. we even envisage that the eu as such of a group of countries could make joint purchases of gas as we have done with vaccines. and in this brutal invasion of ukraine, it provoked an incredible shift in bringing closer the european countries but also the western allies, nato, and we grow through this crisis. we grow also through stepping up the support to the courageous fight of the ukrainian people. >> i know president macron said he couldn't get anywhere with president putin, i'm paraphrasing obviously. when france hears vladimir putin threaten any country who is interfering with his war with lightning fast retaliation, what does france hear? >> well, first france, our president traveled to moscow before the war because we wanted to leave it quite clear that there was a solution, there was a negotiation. and we are not and we don't want to be at war with russia. but then once this invasion has started, of course we support the ukrainian people and we send also france more and more weapons, including heavy artillery. because as your reporter said it is now what has to be done. for the first time the european union as such has spent money and quite a lot of money, $1.5 billion, to buy weapons for ukraine. so again, something with i was absolutely impossible. if nato countries not only eu but nato members are threatened, we are determined to commit to live to our commitments and we have already convenient inforcements to romania, france and baltic countries. >> what if he uses a nuclear weapon on the continent? >> we have our nuclear deterrence policies. we consider that there is absolutely no ground for such an escalation. but we have our policies in this field. >> ambassador, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate your time. >> thank you very much. >> pleased to have you back. >> thank you very much. >> and going public. what the january 6th committee is sharing about plans for a series of open hearings in june. and later dr. deborah burks joins me talking about her time with the administration. and the committee that wants to short i don't know the work week to just 32 hours. they have that in france. what the data tells us about this move. what the data tells us about this move. we are learning more about the january 6th committee's summer plans. there will be eight public hearings, a combination of exhibits, staff testimony and outside witnesses. we already note some of what might be discussed due to a series of unauthorized leaks. those leaks cut what axios reports is a major goal building drama and sparking public interest. joining me is phil rucker. so ali, they do want to build drama for this. they want to hold everything back and unveil it all to the public on their terms. things that passed big public hearings or impeachment or in the mueller report. >> i think the mueller report is instructive for folks on the committee here. they're narrative was stolen by bill barr being automobile to but keep in mind the committee thinks they'll be able to use this moment to communicate to the people who aren't following the news day to day, who may not see the leaks of the meadows text, but when they see it in the dramatic context in a narrative form might become more compelled to pay attention and engage with thegs e material. >>prest, bhe they'vey'ot even y th depositions. from the leaks we've seen, they seem to have a lot of text messages and phone records. what have they been doing behind the scenes that might mean a blockbuster witness might not be necessarily what they need. >> even what we've seen trickling out through court filings. when they filed for more of the marks meadow text messages, they're citing people who were notti high-level staffers but w were always present outside mark meadows office, who my have been in the background. you don't need information from higher echelon. they've had some cooperation but it's not necessarily the big names that you need. they've gotten tens of thousands of documents from people maybe just potentially showing the granularity, the minute by minute in the white house. >> january 6th was scary, scary for someone like me watching in new york, a good deal away. it was very scary for lawmakers when you look at what they were saying in ven the lawmakers that are staunchly behind donald trump right now. marjorie taylor greene was sending a text message saying to stop this. is there a chance to bring those lawmakers back in a way to make them remember at least the fear that they felt on that day and think differently about their position toward it going forward or is this going to be washingtonth politics? >> i think so many members of congress are so kind of hardened with their s positions because the partisan nature of all of this but the hearings might remind them what they really felt as t human beings in that moment and on that day and if they're a republican member who is inclined to dismiss all of this, itss will at least give tm pause in their heart of hearts toea know this was dangerous, their own lives were at risk and what they're doing is for politics and they'll know internally what they experiencee that day and how scary it was. >> is there a motive here? >> i don't know if it's swayable. that's the bigger question we've been asking the committee, do you think you can change minorities? republican leaders are probably baked at where they are and so are democrats. >> you would hope they're talking to somebody not to sway their vote but to present the facts. the american people deserve to know what happenedic that day a this investigation hopefully will unearth the full accounting, the truth of what went on on january 6th. >> someoneua looking in on washington right now, how should they feel about our government? >> well, they should wonder whether their government is serving them andr whether the they choose to send to congress to represent them have their interests at heart or whether they're here to pursue partisan power and kind of play the games a of washington becau i think a lot of americans find what's happening in this town from across the board to be prettyar distasteful and there's a real d apathy out there's in the count and so you just wonder if the country canwo get to a point whe youn have true public service d people connecting and serving the people out in the country. >> phil rucker, ali vitale, thank you. and the government is bringing a lawsuit against paul manafort. his attorney claims the lawsuit is simply ans attempt to embarrass his client. trump's former campaign chair was first investigated for financial crimes back in 2018 during the mueller probe and was convicted on m fraud and obstruction, though he was pardoned by former president trump in december 2020. he still does owe the government for those financial offenses. and coming up, what dr. deborah birx says about her time at the white house and that infamous moment. you know which one. she joins me next.mo one she joins me next. — cut. liberty... are we married to mutual? 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>> that would have been the logical and important thing to do. i was paralyzed in that moment because it was unexpected. >> but dr. birx said you should not reduce her time at the white house to that. behind the scene, she said she focused on the data. she said she pushed back on false narratives meant to downplay the virus and took on president trump despite the impact it had on her national reputation and credibility. joining me here in the washington studio is former white house coronavirus response coordinator dr. deborah birx. she's the author of the new book "silent invasion", the untold story of the trump administration, covid-19 and preventing the next pandemic before it is too late. dr. birx, thank you for being with me. >> glad to be with you. thank you. >> it's got to are hard to hear that or relive that moment over and over again. i know you're doing a lot and we talk a lot in the book about how to look forward and prevent this stuff from happening again. in order to do that, you're going to have to get people to listen to you and there's a good portion of the country that is still very angry about not just that moment but other things you said during your time at the white house and the ways in which it seemed like you were defending a man who was spreading misinformation and putting lives at risk in this country. >> i can understand how people are -- a lot of people are angry. they're angry about the pandemic, they're angry that the pandemic continues. they're angry that we're finishing our fifth surge. they should be angry that we're not prepared for the sixth and seventh surge, which will come and we should be preparing in each of these laws. that's what i try to bring to the white house is a deep understanding of how to integrate data sources to really understand what's going on. so i can see things in the data that really resulted in us being better prepared, better prepared for the summer surge, better prepared for the winter surge. but i think there's still preparation that needs to be done now and we need to be using data and realtime. and i think there were people in the white house, i believe that, because they were using my data for decision making and moving forward. >> why do you think the president wasn't listening to your data and your advice? >> i think i described this in the book. in reflection of going back and going through all the emails i had written and all the memos that had come to me, i had 25 boxes. they're all at the national archives and it goes into great detail. what was in there was a memo from cea, just after we had gotten the president to do the 15 days, the 30 days to slow the spread and i really felt like we were making progress to contain the virus -- now we were in crisis mode. you don't do that kind of lockdown unless you're in crisis. we never had to do that again. but the cea wrote i had misrepresented the data and only 26,000 americans would die rather than the 100,000 i predicted. >> but why do you think they were not listening to the actual data and saying you were misrepresenting the data? what was the goal? >> i think they honestly believed they were right in that moment. >> you think that they think the virus was not a big deal. >> i think they believed they were right. >> and almost a million people have now died from this here in the united states. >> correct. >> i believe there was a group in the white house throughout that entire year who believed the reaction to the virus was overblown the entire time. now, there were things that we overdid and there were things that we underdid as a country, and those are the things that i really want to talk about in the book. but i also wanted people to see what i learned by being on the ground, seeing what governors and mayors were doing. i learned as much from republican mayors as i did from democratic mayors and republican governors and democratic governors. and that was really the important piece of this. just like you send people into the ukraine to know what's going on on the ground, you can't just be sitting here on a computer. you need to go into the states and into the counties and into the communities and listen to people. >> there is a little bit of reporting today. a house panel released emails today from former trump officials that shows them overriding -- part of the spread was happening in churches and places of worship. the administration's lawyers literally changed the medical guidance for political reasons. at the time were aware of this as it's a happening? >> no. there's a separate process that goes through the omb system. at the time i saw the cdc guidance, i would disagree on scientific issues, not on the safety of indoor spaces. i knew there were asymptomatic people. i knew that's where transition was occurring. i certainly wouldn't recommend that people in that moment when we were having -- we had no treatment at that time. so we really -- and we had very few tests. so we needed to get all of these resources available and protect as many americans as we could. >> you know, going back to march 2020, april, the early stages, it was a really scary time. >> yes. >> we didn't know what was going on. we didn't understand exactly how this was transmitted, who it would hurt, who it would not hurt. there was no treatment. the tests that the cdc put out didn't work. there was a lot of scared folks out there washing down groceries. people were dying. the pandemic was politicized, deeply politicized while you were at the white house. it was politicized by donald trump. >> mm-hmm. >> and there were times it felt like you were giving credit to him. there was one moment, i don't need to play it, where you were standing at a white house reporter location and up said he reads a lot and he's really taking it in. for a lot of americans they would see that and say my president knows what he's talking about, i'll listen to him. but he wasn't giving good advice. >> in that moment he was. i wanted people to see, when i arrived at the white house, the white house had this blase the risk to americans is low. i could see even then in the data. that's why i went to africa and convened the african leaders here in january to say this is serious. so when i came back, i came back with a very serious message. i used the data i was getting from around the world to show people how serious this was going to be and how that tsunami wave was headed to the united states. in that moment the president looked at those graphs, first he did the european travel ban, then the 15 days to slow the spread and then the 30 days to slow the spread. i'm thinking that the data is convincing the president and that's why i said that at the time. >> when it became clear the data was not convincing the president, why didn't you stand up and say this is not right, people are at risk, this is dangerous, we have nearly a million people who have almost -- nearly a million people have died of covid. they were dying at a very rapid rate at the time that you were in the white house. >> correct. >> you might not have felt that way when you were saying he was reading the material and really understanding it but what about when it became clear to you that he was dangerous, that he was saying to people inject bleach into your arms to clear out the virus. he said he was joking but that's not the way the american public takes him. the cdc had poison hotlines and people calling in and saying, oh ingested bleach. >> and that's why i asked the fda and cdc to do that. >> why didn't you get out in front of a podium and tell the american public i am a white house health official, i am in charge of the response of the pandemic and you need to listen to doctors, i'm sorry, not the president of the united states. >> so i did that on local media. i was barred from doing that on national media. people said why don't you leave and just do that? i would have had five seconds to do that and then the white house would not have used data for decision making to save american lives and we did do that. >> you're saying it would have been worse had you been fired? >> absolutely. >> why write a book and not just send a report to this next administration and say here's what we need to do. >> i did. of course i did. i was sharing data with the biden administration in november, showing them all the data we were collecting, showing them my interpretation of that data. and before i left, i gave them a multi-page report of the things that needed to be corrected. i've done that with congress. i wasn't seeing the changes needed to occur. we've lost another 450,000 americans since march 1st of 2021. we are still making mistakes we don't need to make. >> i often think about the moment when you talked about your great grandmother and your grandmother and how your grandmother carried the weight of bringing the spanish flu into the house and killing her mom. that resonated with me. i wonder how you feel about everything right now. how are you doing after all this? >> i feel awful every morning when i look at the data and see that we're not acting in realtime. i felt awful the whole time i was in the white house. if you look at the pictures you can see i look exhausted. it's because i'm getting up at 2, i'm going through the data and writing a report every day to the vice president, the task force, cabinet members, i'm writing a weekly report to every governor saying this is what you need to do and i'm going out and doing local media. you have to do what you can to change the needle and the response. i think if you talk to governors, they'll tell you i had that impact. i know that's difficult to see from the national media perspective, but i think if you went in and looked at those local media hits, you would see that i was saying the opposite of what the president was saying. and that was so important to me to be clear about that that i went to the vice president and said those very words in august. i said i am going out and saying exactly the opposite of what the president is saying and he said do what you need to do and that's what i did. >> dr. deborah birx, thank you so much for being with us and congratulations on the book. >> thank you so much. >> appreciate your time. >> and what if your work week was cut from five days to four? 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>> well, i think next we're in the middle of a campaign year and they have committed to doing a hearing with us so we could reintroduce this next year. sometimes the reality is ideas take us more that one try. i've been working on issues for over six years but we had success finally. >> what is your argument for a four-day work week instead of a five-day work week with no pay cut? >> employees as we return back to work, going back to normal is not good enough. we want better, want an improvement. more than 45 million americans have voluntarily left their jobs for better opportunities. they're talking about better. they're not talking about having a better space with more free food or more activities. they want to have a better quality of life. they are talking about mental health, about physical health and so the reality is that a four-day work week would allow us to have more times to do the things that we love. the second thing i'm going to say is that a lot of companies are experimenting with this, including microsoft, who said they've seen a 40% increase of productivity and they are having a better time retaining employees. we need to listen to employees and adjust and do things differently. why shouldn't we share the progress with our employees. why should it only be shared with shareholders or people like jeff bezos, who are seeing their wealth multiply during the pandemic. >> they're doing a pilot program in several countries and 60% of businesses found it easier to attract and retain talent with a four-day work week and 48% of employees found they were happier and less stressed out. let's not beat around the bush. when we go home, we're still on our phone, answering emails, we're still checked in. it feels like we're already past a five-day work week. the chamber of commerce is pushing back. what sort of pushback are you getting from the business community about shortening the work week? >> i think there's a lot of fear. change is hard. we've been doing this for over a hundred years. fear i think keeps us attached to the status quo. but business who is are having a labor shortage are talking about how their profit margins are being affected. employees are sending a clear message they want better as they return. i think it's to the benefit of employers to rethink the workweek and rethink that balance between home and work. it's not just a four-day workweek but how do we actually allow individuals to turn their phone off when their home, how do you sit down and have dinner with your family that allows you to be in a better space when you return to the office and be more productive out there. the pandemic has forced us to have a discussion about what matters and how do we rethink things and move forward to better? while we might have a hard time turning devices off, i think we need to rethink the relationship and create better balance between work and home. >> 35-hour work week and they have banned work e-mail after work. it's illegal there. thank you so much for joining us. >> and coming up next, why louisiana's $50 billion plan to protect the gulf coastline could also destroy the state's black fishing industry. also destrou y the state's blac fishing industry i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer ♪ ♪ yeah, i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin ♪ ♪ yeah, that's all me ♪ ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my skin, that's my new plan ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪ keep your skin clearer with skyrizi. most who achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months had lasting clearance through 1 year. in another study, most people had 90% clearer skin at 3 years. and skyrizi is 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. ♪ it's my moment ♪ ♪ so i just gotta say ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪ skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms such as fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches, or coughs, or if you plan to or recently received a vaccine. ♪ nothing is everything ♪ talk to your dermatologist about skyrizi. learn how abbvie could help you save. grillin', chillin', spillin', dillin'. bec-ing. never brie-ing. smokin', yolkin', flippin', dippin'. if you're not oozing, then you're losing. tater totting, cold or hotting. mealin', feelin', pie-ing, trying. color your spread. upgrade your bread. pair it. share it. kraft singles. square it. what happens if the solution for one problem could mean disaster for an entire community? scientists have a plan to save a state's coastline but it could come at a big cost -- louisiana's black fishing community. joining me now is nbc correspondent trymaine lee. trymaine, i've been there, talked to fishermen in that very parish, they were struggling then. >> the state's plan to save the coastline may mean the devastation and final blow to small black fishing villages. we took a trip down there. let's check it out. >> reporter: on the east bank of the mississippi river, about an hour south of new orleans, there is a small fishing village. >> this place was like no other. >> reporter: it's where this 62-year-old was born and raised. where his father and grandfather taught him how to fish. they depend on the bayou for food on their tables and paychecks in their pockets. >> this was it, man, this was my life. >> reporter: the lifeblood of the black fishing community? >> absolutely. this is the largest black community in plaquemines parish. >> reporter: they've always stood strong but over the decades, manmade catastrophes and natural disasters have slowly chipped away at their way of life and their lucrative businesses. today, the once-booming bayou is mostly silent. what did this marina mean to the vitality of the community? >> this was it, this was the main source of revenue for the community. >> reporter: now the community fears a state plan intended to save louisiana's eroding coastline could deal these fishing villages a final blow. according to state estimates, louisiana lost more than 2,000 square miles of coastline in part because of climate change. in order to reverse the flow, state authorities want to divert fresh river water into areas like this one, hoping the sediment-filled water will deposit nutrients along the coast, rebuilding what was lost. but the problem for oystermen is that it could kill the oysters, a population that depends on salt water to survive, and could drive other species like shrimp further into the gulf where it would be out of reach for shrimp boats like these brothers own. they operate a seafood company. >> our grandfather told us if the moon is right, we start testing. >> reporter: they say naturally occurring diversions have already made it harder to fish here. >> we used to go five minutes from here. >> the canoe right there used to be loaded with shrimp. >> now we have to go two or three hours that way. >> reporter: the state's fresh water program, a 50-year, $50 billion effort, is still in the planning and permitting stage. the state telling nbc news they know in the short term their plans will hit some in the fishing industry especially hard, but that it's the best plan to reverse coastal erosion. the williams brothers disagree. >> they could pump the sand from the bayous back into the marsh. >> reporter: for byron, watching the culture slip away cuts deep. >> it hurts your heart, man, to see so much just disappear. >> you know, they've weathered hurricanes, natural disasters, racist policies, and this may be the final blow. the folks i talked to said, no matter what, we're here for the long term. but the sad reality here is, they may not have that village if things continue to go the way they are. >> trymaine, thank you very much. garrett haake picks up our coverage after this. garrett haake picks up our coverage after this. when you join ihop's new rewards program, the international bank of pancakes, and start stacking pancoins toree food, you get a smile on your plate. download the app and join the rewards program today. when it comes to tech, everyone wants the next best thing. now with xfi complete from xfinity, you can get updated wifi technology with the new tech upgrade program. plus, protection from cyber threats at home and now on the go. so staying up to date is easier than ever. you look great by the way. right? 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