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department. tonight, a new do not travel warning is in effect for ukraine. ordering nonessential staff and family of american personnel to leave the country. we are going to dig into the tensions of eastern europe and how they are preparing if russia does in fact invade. and then in a likely new poll shows us just how many americans believe there is a threat to democracy. congressional progressive caucus chair congresswoman pramila jayapal, is here to discuss it. more and today we learned the investigation for the january six has asked former fbi to explain why we are investigating former president trump. and how it's vital to the future of our democracy. i am ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. yeldin let's get downhill, divisive, negative, struggling, lost and back. those are the top answers americans gave when they were asked, where is america today? this shouldn't be surprising. just take a look at this number. a striking 76% of americans believe there is a threat to democracy. at the majority rule in this country. well, that comes as no surprise when you look at what happened on the senate floor just this week. two democratic senators, west virginia's manchin and, sinema, join for the filibuster. it moved another nail in the legislation voting rights in the country. it's not as if democrats expected anything different from the moderate senators. however, before that vote begin, they were already working on a plan b. here's what he told my colleague on tuesday. >> we have not yet begun to fight. we have a lot more tools in our tool box. i could encourage them to say that we stopped here. but let's teach the provisions of this bill one of the time. and make it even harder for them to vote against some of these things that people on both sides of the political aisle and support. >> senator booker makes a good point here. what are these common sense provisions? allow me to break it down starting with the freedom to vote act. because you should know what is actually being blocked by these republicans and moderates. the bill would make election day a federal holiday. wow. controversial. it would require online, automatic and same-day voter registration. set a minimum of 15 days of early voting. implement no excuse mail voting where people could have ample access to ballot drop boxes and online ballot tracking. restore voting rights to formerly incarcerated people convicted of felonies. prohibit partisan gerrymandering. and prohibit local election officials from being fired or removed without cause. or, while imposing stricter penalties against harassment, intimidation of those election workers. make interfering with a voter registration a federal crime. enhanced transparency in campaign advertisement. and create a federal obligation for companies to report instances of foreign interference. can you imagine that is what the republicans and those two moderate senators are actually blocking? as for the john lewis voting rights advancement act, the bill would reverse the 2013 supreme court decision that struck down portions of the voting rights acts of 1965. require certain states to require clearance from the justice department before changing laws about their voting processes. update the formula used to determine which states must get preclearance. and requires courts to consider history of voting discrimination when hearing challenges to those voting practices. we i don't know. seems like this is pretty common sense to me. in fact, it's not as if mitch mcconnell tried to frame it as the left big lie. so, are the democrats fresh off another failure? are they running out of time of options? heating senator booker's advice to take these items and try to get them done individually. no, they are not. they are once again chasing a bipartisan solution to a partition problem that the republicans are creating. remember, it is 19 republicans left senate states that have passed those 34 laws restricting voter access since 2021. 19 states. and yet, this week of bipartisan senators, including manchin and sinema, claim to be virtually discussing changes to the electoral act. the group of lawmakers also claimed to discuss how to protect election officials from threats and intimidation. that sounds great, right? notice anything missing? oh yeah. no mention of any provision aimed at combatting voter restriction and election subversion efforts at the state level where this is taking place. that is where the threat is. that is what needs attention. that is like trying to build a house and starting with the roof. and without a proper foundation, things are destined to crumble. and without a voting rights bill that addresses federal and state level election threats, our democracy remains vulnerable. let's bring in russell berman, he's a staff writer for the atlantic who has written extensively about the voting rights saga on capitol hill. russell, it's good to see you. let me start with something that you recently wrote in your most recent pete's. you explore some alternative path that biden could've taken on the voting rights. he said none of them would've been easier, in fact more successful. why do you believe this latest failure was predestined? and does that mean that if the easiest path has been shut down, all the others are unlikely to pass? well, simply put, the democrats and president biden have the power to set the agenda in washington. but they don't have the votes to pass it. they have the majority. a very slim majority in the senate. 50 votes, plus the tie breaking vote of kamala harris. but that is not enough. it's really never been enough in modern history to pass big legislation. especially, as you saw in the vote, you know, it starkly revealed this week that they tried to get the filibuster. and they got exactly what everybody needed that they would get. which was 48 votes, the maximum number of votes that the ever had to change the filibuster. so, as simple as it is, it's not just a numbers game. it is hard to see that changing. it's putting them in a political position. they have the power on the responsibility as well as the hope an expectation of having the majority in both houses of congress and the presidency. but they really just don't have a big enough majority tech get what's the need to get done. >> russell, let me share with you something that i hear a lot from a few of my republican friends but i also see it as well in the republican chamber. republicans are claiming it is hypocritical for democrats, who rightfully have served that the last election was the most secure in history, to put forward electoral reforms. they argue, why would you need it if the last election was fine? now we both know, democrats are combatting laws with the gop state legislators after the election. which we outlined there. and that is where the real threat is. but who is winning this messaging fight? because i think that's when it comes down to. do the american people understand where the threat is coming from? >> well, i think that you do see support. i am not sure if this particular issue is a messaging issue. it really just comes down to senator manchin and senator sinema who both support the bill. they just don't supported enough to get rid of the filibuster. and i think on this particular issue, it is -- i guess, if there were thousands of people outside of the capitol protesting this legislation, maybe that would create a different dynamic. it seems like the public generally is on their side. i don't know if they have lost the messaging battle. it is just a simple matter of these two senators. and i think everybody wants to search for other answers to why they haven't gotten this done. and i think the answer is right in front of us. >> i guess the argument from manchin and sinema is that if democrats do succeed in altering the filibuster, what is to stop republicans from using that to their advantage in passing these kinds of voting restriction laws on a federal level if they succeed in the midterms? on anything that the democrats do, wouldn't the republicans, if they do win, make the same changes and reverse those laws within minutes of taking power? >> the argument is probably not as strong when it comes to the voting laws. i think it would be difficult to get rid of a wants unpopular law. republicans couldn't get rid of one when they had power. i think the democrats are more worried about the laws that they could pass that have nothing to do with voting rights. such as, rub portion restriction, gun laws -- rolling back environmental regulation. i'm not sure it's specifically in regards to building laws. but they may certainly try to get the law and get rid of some of the things that may be not as popular as early voting or mail-in voting which are both very popular. you know, we've seen mitch mcconnell. he did do this. when democrats lay the groundwork and took their first step on judicial nominations to get rid of the filibuster for a lower court judicial nomination. they took the next step to get rid of the filibuster for the supreme court and they benefited from that very much. >> yes, you make an interesting point. because ultimately the laws that to be passed by congress had to be signed by president. obviously, this president wouldn't do it if he doesn't fact lose control of either the house or the senate in the midterms. you would have at least two years to combat that. but you do bring an interesting point that they would then have the proactive ability to pass legislation when they have control of both the house senate and the white house. russell berman, great to speak to you. thank you so much for your time. really appreciated. >> thank you for having me. >> my pleasure. let's bring in congresswoman pramila jayapal, she's a democrat from washington. congresswoman, thank you so much. it's great to have you with us tonight. there is a lot to talk about here. as i mentioned, this week a group of bipartisan senators planned to meet virtually to discuss a more modest election overall bill. including changes to the electoral count act. would you support a scaled back piece of legislation like that? do you think that is the right approach right now given no movement on joe manchin and kyrsten sinema? n moveamen, it's great to see you. thank you for having me on. look, i don't think that you can even begin to think that the electoral count act and any changes that we would make there come close to addressing the issues that you've been covering around election subversion and voting rights suppression. and so, i don't think that we should confuse them as the alternative to the john lewis voting rights act nor the freedom to vote act. it is a completely different thing. is their support for it? sure. i think that is a legitimate thing to do. but let's not confuse it and think that it is a substitute. i think that the reality is that the country deserves to have a real debate and vote on these bills. and the filibuster, even if there was a small carve out just for voting rights, which by the way, have been done for so many other issues. that would allow this piece of legislation to move forward. and if the republicans come into power and decide that they are going to change it, now i just heard the reason for why that may not be the case, politic they were, that is the debate that a country should have. we should all get to see what a vote looks like. and we should actually be able to have a real discussion and a vote on these critical pieces of legislation. if we don't do that, aim in, we are going to see the continued suppression of votes across the country. and the things that we can do, we can try to continue to move legislation. we should remember, a year ago this time, there were a lot more than two senators who didn't want to reform the filibuster for voting rights. at least now, there's just too. so we need to keep at it. we need to do the word at the state level. and we need to continue to make the argument to the people about why this is so essential for our depart -- for democracy. >> let me talk to you for a moment about politics. this morning, your colleague elissa slotkin, was asked about the arizona party's decision to censure senator sinema over her support for the filibuster. let me play for you what she had to say. >> we yes. we i don't come from a school where your constantly airing dirty laundry. there are really big divisions in washington right now. period. democrat, republican, within each party. i just don't believe that the way that you get back at other people's by putting that on air, airing that publicly. >> do you agree with congresswoman elissa slotkin? or do you think arizona democrats made the right move to let senator sinema know that there should be a consequence going against the will of the people of arizona who overwhelmingly support it? >> i think it's two things. the arizona party is of the people. that is what the democratic party is. and so people are going to push because they are furious that their senator, who is a democrat, i think it's legitimate. at the same time i think what elissa slotkin is saying, we need to focus on the real things that have gotten done in the last year. and the things that we are going to do in this year. there is a 24/7 news cycle that is constantly talking about the divisions to the exclusion of the things that we've gotten, right? we reduced hunger by 32% last year. just in the last year because of the american rescue plan and a whole bunch of other things we did. we created, 6.4 million new jobs in one year. the most jobs that any new president has created in his first year. we brought unemployment down to just under 4%. and that is two years in advance of one unemployment was going to go down. we just have gone up. yes cost of gone up to. i know that. but people and workers have more choices in the jobs that they're able to take, better wages, better benefits and more choices. these are the things i wish we would cover. and i think for someone like elissa slotkin, was in a tough district, it is frustrating when only the divisions get talked about. and not the actual accomplishments of what we've gotten done in a year of the new democratic president and a democratic congress. yes. >> and not to take away anything about what the democrats have accomplished. but i do want to ask you about a priority from your party. the build back better bill. you and others in the caucus are right and thinking that the human composure would not get past. and senator manchin would find a way to back out of the agreement from the white house which we have seen play out. and here we are. but last week, we also saw some conflicting messages from the president and speaker pelosi. watch this. >> i am confident that we can get big chunks of the build back better law signed in law. i think that we can break the package up. get as much as we can now. and come back and fight for the rest later. >> what the president calls chunks, i hope it would be a major bill going forward. it may be more limited but it is still significant. >> so, as i understand, it this is obviously a reconciliation bill. you don't have many changes to come back and fight later. are the administration and democrats in congress on the same page here about the path forward? >> i think the terminology was confusing. it is not possible to break this up into a lot of pieces. because as you say, there's only one reconciliation bill. i think what the president was saying, i don't want to speak for him, but my understanding of what he was saying and reading the whole transcript is that we are going to get as much as we can get done of build back better done. because you remember, even, there was the framework that senator manchin agreed to. which was significant. it was about 1.5 trillion dollars. and a lot of key priorities for progressives for the presidents agenda. the house then passed an even bigger bill. and we put some things in that weren't in that framework. and what i believe is possible is to pass something that is very close to that framework. and that may be what the president is talking about when he says chunks. he is saying, take a big chunk of that bill that the house passed. and let's try to get that passed. so, that is our strategy now. and really, this is going to rely on the president going back to senator manchin and saying, look, my credibility is on the line as president. you committed to me. i committed to the country that we would get this done. and this is the deal. so i need you to come through now. i believe those conversations are starting to happen now. >> let me just ask you, finally, congresswoman, the chair of the progressive caucus you have been a key negotiator for this whole process. after senator manchin pulled his support from build back better last month, you released a statement and said he, quote, betrayed a statement not only to the president but to the democrats in congress but mostly importantly, to the american people. he can no longer say that. how do you go back to the table after that kind of betrayal? i mean, why would you even and do you even have any faith that senator joe manchin negotiates in good faith from hot. >> well, amy, and we don't have the luxury to give up. we just don't have the luxury to give up. we have to get these things done for the american people. this is what we all ran on as democrats. it's what the president ran on. it is black voters and young voters and poor voters in arizona and across the country came up and voted for. this is the democratic agenda. and so, it is really not an option for us to say, you know what, i am frustrated by the whole thing. i am just going to give up. that is number one. number two, i did have a conversation with senator manchin. and even in that conversation, the day after when he called me, there was so many things that he was still saying he supported. including universal pre-k, universal child care, housing, elder care, climate change. the health care subsidies as well. these are all the things that he said he supported. so, i just have to believe that we can get this done. because it is good for the american people. and it is good for the country to be able to deliver on this. and it's good for joe manchin. and for a state to be able to deliver on this as well >> congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us this evening. i greatly appreciate your time as always, it's good to see you. >> thank you ayman, good to see you as well. >> next, former fbi agent will be here, we're gonna find out what he thinks about trump seizing ballots. plus, richard louis with the headlines. ballots. thank you ayman, we're gonna start with some breaking news. issued a do not travel to ukraine. along the country's border is causing increased concern. nonemergency -- are authorized to depart the country. eligible family members are ordered to evacuate. president biden has warned military action, including invasion, could be imminent. firefighters, saturday, are trying to contain a wildfire that broke out along the california coast. hundreds of residents were evacuated. authorities shut down the stretch of highway one. the cause of this uncommon winter fire is unknown. and, new zealand is facing an omicron covid spike. new safety measures called the red setting were just released. requiring the prime minister herself to postpone her own wedding. the restrictions were put in place after nine omicron cases were detected in the single family household. more with ayman ayman mohyeldin, right after this break. ayman mohyeldin, ayman mohyeldin, right after thistaking a break from all your worries ♪ ♪sure would help a lot ♪ ♪wouldn't you like to get away? 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>> well, i don't know. but if we do or not, it really doesn't matter. it has no legal weight. the department of justice files when they think a crime has been committed. >> could this result in the same outcome as the mueller investigation? which, as we know, nothing legally came from it. which, awell, i think the two is here -- ayman, thank you for having me. it could result in criminal referral from doj. the point to make is that the doj doesn't need to wait for a referral from congress to investigate. but the thing is, people need to understand, much like the mueller report, wrongdoing doesn't necessarily result in prosecution. and i think people fall into the trap of thinking, well, if something is prosecuted then it must be wrong. if it isn't prosecuted, or wasn't prosecuted, therefore, that's fine. but that simply not the case. the standard for bringing a criminal case is very high. and it's much higher certainly than something that is inappropriate. it's certainly higher than something that you give people real pause about whether it's the people we want as elected officials in our government. so when it comes to trump, i think it's very important that he needs to be held accountable for the things that he did in the past administration. because the fact of the matter is, i think a lot of people assumed that when president biden was elected, and he was sworn in, that former president trump was going to go off and never return. but the fact of the matter is, he does remain a kingmaker in politics. and actually, if he did want to run for president in 2024, i think most experts would agree that he would be the clear front runner as the republican candidate. be tyou make a really interestig point about the threat that he still poses to, not only our politics, but our institutions, if he is somehow able to regain control. one of the ways, obviously, that a lot of people are looking for that to be stopped is the january six committee. in terms of what they could potentially uncover in terms of his wrongdoing from the previous time in office. how do you think the january six committee is doing right now based on what you have seen and heard? obviously, it's still early. but how would you grade their investigative work of what has been revealed? >> i think they are moving in a matter i would expect them to move towards. and that is starting at the bottom. looking at all the various players who are involved on the ground. and then from that, starting to move up to understand much like doj is doing separately, who were the groups involved in this activity. where the groups that were funding this activity. and then finally, to what extent with those people and those groups engaged in those conspiracies linked to people higher up. people in the white house, people around president trump whether that is folks like rudy giuliani, roger stone, or others. and certainly other members of congress who might have been involved in this. and then from that, move to the very top to try and get an understanding of who and what was the role of the president in the united states himself in the insurrection. and so, i think that they are following a very logical path of fort. i think that they understand very well that they face a hard potential deadline with the midterm elections. the democrats me no longer maintain the majority. and i expect that throughout the spring and summer, we are going to see an accelerating pace of hearings that the final report. which hopefully will shut a lot of light on what happened on january six. >> yes, and one of the things we learned this week, peter, is the bombshell report. and i wanted to get your thoughts on the reports to send national guard troops to seize voting machines after the 2020 election. the is a creative order was never signed. but the fact that it apparently won't be on the simple discussion was actually drafted into a document that could've been signed by the president of the united states. i have to assume, that is deeply troubling, how do you begin to investigate where that is in the possibility of a plot to overthrow the election? >> well, it's beyond troubling. this is one of the greatest threats that i have seen certainly in our lifetime. and in history, looking back at what our nation is facing -- the fact of the matter is, what is troubling, is that we should look at the people who are in the white house from press reporting at the time the plan was proposed. you had general mike flynn, who is the fighter disgraced former national security adviser who was convicted of lying to the fbi. of lying to me, about his contacts with the russian ambassador. you had sydney powell, his attorney who had worked with attorney general barr to walk back any type of jail time that plan might have faced, and finally had patrick byrne, who had been in a romantic relationship with a woman named maria butina, who had been sentenced to jail and later deported for acted as an unregistered agent for the government of russia. so those folks, that you are sitting in the oval office, in late december, presenting this plan to former president trump. and you can't make this up. if you take a step back, and you look not only at the staggering implications of this plan to use the military or the national guard or federal law enforcement agency to seize voting machines to essentially redo a majority vote that gave over 7 million votes to president biden that were given to president trump, that is simply a staggering act. atop these folks with the foreign connections that they, have in their offices presenting it is deeply troubling. peter strzok, thank you so much for joining us. we greatly appreciate your insight. coming, up we're following the very latest out of eastern europe. we're a do not travel warning is now in effect for ukraine for american citizens. we are going to break down the u.s. russia tensions. the liberty, liberty ♪ with hepatitis c i felt i couldn't be at my best for my family. in only 8 weeks with mavyret i was cured. i worried about my hep c. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret i was cured. mavyret is the only 8-week cure for all types of hep c. before starting mavyret your doctor will test if you've had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b, a liver or kidney transplant, other liver problems, hiv-1,or other medical conditions, and all medicines you take. don't take mavyret with atazanavir or rifampin, or if you've had certain liver problems. if you've had or have serious liver problems other than hep c, there's a rare chance they may worsen. signs of serious liver problems may include yellowing of the skin, abdominal pain or swelling, confusion, and unexplained bleeding or bruising. tell your doctor if you develop symptoms of liver disease. common side effects include headache and tiredness. with hep c behind me, i feel free fearless because i am cured. talk to your doctor about mavyret. learn how abbvie could help you save. nothing like a weekend in the woods. it's a good choice all around, like screening for colon cancer... when caught in early stages it's more treatable. i'm cologuard. i'm noninvasive... and i detect altered dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers... even in early stages. early stages. yep. it's for people 45 plus at average risk for colon cancer, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider if cologuard is right for you. we're in. well, would you look at that? 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how has president biden done. >> you know, i would like to give an incomplete, however, it is kind of looking, with everything going on like a b minus, maybe. it's not. good c+? b minus. will be a little. fair he restored some alliances. but you know, kabul, kyiv, aukus, there's a lot there to unpack. >> so, what is your sense of america's standing right now? you said he wanted america back. he said there could be other signs that the relationships have gotten better to opposed to when trump was in power. but at the same time, just this, week you at the french president say that he is calling on the europeans to think of their own security concerns and to forge their own path when it comes to dealings with russia. i am not saying he's, right i'm just saying is that also a sign that the european allies are not necessarily confident that america's back? >> listen, this is really complicated. because on one hand, president biden went in there with the real opportunity here. to say, america's back, the pelosi's back. and the fact of the matter is that he restored some alliances. the remove some trade restrictions. thanks with the european are certainly better than they were under president trump. but, that doesn't mean that we have to upset them. that things are all that rosy. by the way, they don't see us as flailing and us divided, right? and we can't underestimate what that does around the. world so number one, we have pissed off the french with the caucus deal. that could've been handled a lot better. the germans and the, break certainly unhappy about how we unveiled afghanistan. if you are going to say, that america's, backbone you have to project strength on the world stage. and, that is actually really what i believe what happened a year ago. but i have seen that entirely. now, things with the allies, like i said, their little better. but there are a lot of challenges between the pandemic, locally here with how the appearance of democracy. and the challenges around the world. it's almost like, he's got 99 problems but these ain't one. >> look at you throwing a little jay-z and there. let's talk about one of the major issues that has been unresolved. and it is when i was just talking about. the situation in yemen. and our relationships with saudi arabia and other gulf countries. why has that been such a dismal failure? >> such a failure. i completely agree with you by the way. i think that they are -- listen, they are trying to figure this out. the problem is. you don't have time to figure it out when you are president. i said the same thing when president trump came to office. you don't have time to figure it out. you are the president of the united states, right? and he has a team that is a well seasoned team in foreign policy. they went into office thinking that they could fundamentally change how foreign policy is pursued in washington. and i think that was the right goal. putting human rights at the center. putting corruption at the center of foreign policy. they certainly seem to have been pursuing that when it comes to china. right? but when it comes to everywhere else. saudi arabia, egypt, the uae, right? those arm sales continue. no policy on syria. nobody knows what this administration is going to pursue when it comes to the elusive -- palestinian conflict. libya, we are all waiting what is going on. and that is not what -- we don't have the luxury as the u.s. government to portray like we are just figuring it out. because other countries take advantage of that. right? you and i know this. we know the other side of the world very well. and we know how these dictators behave. and most of them are thugs. and they look at any perceived sign of weakness as a sign that they can harp on. something they can jump off. and i think that they said that they would be this -- project this strength. but they are little afraid. they can't be afraid, but that is what they look like. >> let's talk about one of the issues a little bit closer to home. the crisis in central america and the border countries to the united states. president biden bat to take a humane approach to the issue. has that been the case in dealing with migration across our southern border? >> this is such a mess. for a number of reasons. want, to answer your question, no. his approach has not really been all that more humane. on the flip side, when you have a major increase in migrants. which is what you had as soon as he took office. as soon as he took office. the few months afterwards. you had a huge increase. i think that remains to be the case. right after haiti and all of these issues that we had. you have this huge increase. why? because of migrants abroad. they believe, generally believe, that president biden was going to be softer. not just in terms of how they would would be treated, but that they would be opening borders more to him. the fact that they believe that, even though that is false. the fact that they believe that is the fault of the biden team. i worked in communications. i know how it is. if you don't communicate clearly and know how to reach the audience properly, then that is on you. that is your fault. if you are making speeches. and migrants abroad are not hearing that. that is our fault. and that is the problem. there is no end in sight on that. this is going to remain a problem i think for the first of the rest of the term. >> always a pleasure, good to see you my friend. thank you for that insightful exchange. coming up, one of the largest humanitarian crises in the world. want to help, we will tell you more about it? >> stick around. about it? about it? >> stick in-wash scent boosters. 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department. tonight, a new do not travel warning is in effect for ukraine. ordering nonessential staff and family of american personnel to leave the country. we are going to dig into the tensions of eastern europe and how they are preparing if russia does in fact invade. and then in a likely new poll shows us just how many americans believe there is a threat to democracy. congressional progressive caucus chair congresswoman pramila jayapal, is here to discuss it. more and today we learned the investigation for the january six has asked former fbi to explain why we are investigating former president trump. and how it's vital to the future of our democracy. i am ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. yeldin let's get downhill, divisive, negative, struggling, lost and back. those are the top answers americans gave when they were asked, where is america today? this shouldn't be surprising. just take a look at this number. a striking 76% of americans believe there is a threat to democracy. at the majority rule in this country. well, that comes as no surprise when you look at what happened on the senate floor just this week. two democratic senators, west virginia's manchin and, sinema, join for the filibuster. it moved another nail in the legislation voting rights in the country. it's not as if democrats expected anything different from the moderate senators. however, before that vote begin, they were already working on a plan b. here's what he told my colleague on tuesday. >> we have not yet begun to fight. we have a lot more tools in our tool box. i could encourage them to say that we stopped here. but let's teach the provisions of this bill one of the time. and make it even harder for them to vote against some of these things that people on both sides of the political aisle and support. >> senator booker makes a good point here. what are these common sense provisions? allow me to break it down starting with the freedom to vote act. because you should know what is actually being blocked by these republicans and moderates. the bill would make election day a federal holiday. wow. controversial. it would require online, automatic and same-day voter registration. set a minimum of 15 days of early voting. implement no excuse mail voting where people could have ample access to ballot drop boxes and online ballot tracking. restore voting rights to formerly incarcerated people convicted of felonies. prohibit partisan gerrymandering. and prohibit local election officials from being fired or removed without cause. or, while imposing stricter penalties against harassment, intimidation of those election workers. make interfering with a voter registration a federal crime. enhanced transparency in campaign advertisement. and create a federal obligation for companies to report instances of foreign interference. can you imagine that is what the republicans and those two moderate senators are actually blocking? as for the john lewis voting rights advancement act, the bill would reverse the 2013 supreme court decision that struck down portions of the voting rights acts of 1965. require certain states to require clearance from the justice department before changing laws about their voting processes. update the formula used to determine which states must get preclearance. and requires courts to consider history of voting discrimination when hearing challenges to those voting practices. we i don't know. seems like this is pretty common sense to me. in fact, it's not as if mitch mcconnell tried to frame it as the left big lie. so, are the democrats fresh off another failure? are they running out of time of options? heating senator booker's advice to take these items and try to get them done individually. no, they are not. they are once again chasing a bipartisan solution to a partition problem that the republicans are creating. remember, it is 19 republicans left senate states that have passed those 34 laws restricting voter access since 2021. 19 states. and yet, this week of bipartisan senators, including manchin and sinema, claim to be virtually discussing changes to the electoral act. the group of lawmakers also claimed to discuss how to protect election officials from threats and intimidation. that sounds great, right? notice anything missing? oh yeah. no mention of any provision aimed at combatting voter restriction and election subversion efforts at the state level where this is taking place. that is where the threat is. that is what needs attention. that is like trying to build a house and starting with the roof. and without a proper foundation, things are destined to crumble. and without a voting rights bill that addresses federal and state level election threats, our democracy remains vulnerable. let's bring in russell berman, he's a staff writer for the atlantic who has written extensively about the voting rights saga on capitol hill. russell, it's good to see you. let me start with something that you recently wrote in your most recent pete's. you explore some alternative path that biden could've taken on the voting rights. he said none of them would've been easier, in fact more successful. why do you believe this latest failure was predestined? and does that mean that if the easiest path has been shut down, all the others are unlikely to pass? well, simply put, the democrats and president biden have the power to set the agenda in washington. but they don't have the votes to pass it. they have the majority. a very slim majority in the senate. 50 votes, plus the tie breaking vote of kamala harris. but that is not enough. it's really never been enough in modern history to pass big legislation. especially, as you saw in the vote, you know, it starkly revealed this week that they tried to get the filibuster. and they got exactly what everybody needed that they would get. which was 48 votes, the maximum number of votes that the ever had to change the filibuster. so, as simple as it is, it's not just a numbers game. it is hard to see that changing. it's putting them in a political position. they have the power on the responsibility as well as the hope an expectation of having the majority in both houses of congress and the presidency. but they really just don't have a big enough majority tech get what's the need to get done. >> russell, let me share with you something that i hear a lot from a few of my republican friends but i also see it as well in the republican chamber. republicans are claiming it is hypocritical for democrats, who rightfully have served that the last election was the most secure in history, to put forward electoral reforms. they argue, why would you need it if the last election was fine? now we both know, democrats are combatting laws with the gop state legislators after the election. which we outlined there. and that is where the real threat is. but who is winning this messaging fight? because i think that's when it comes down to. do the american people understand where the threat is coming from? >> well, i think that you do see support. i am not sure if this particular issue is a messaging issue. it really just comes down to senator manchin and senator sinema who both support the bill. they just don't supported enough to get rid of the filibuster. and i think on this particular issue, it is -- i guess, if there were thousands of people outside of the capitol protesting this legislation, maybe that would create a different dynamic. it seems like the public generally is on their side. i don't know if they have lost the messaging battle. it is just a simple matter of these two senators. and i think everybody wants to search for other answers to why they haven't gotten this done. and i think the answer is right in front of us. >> i guess the argument from manchin and sinema is that if democrats do succeed in altering the filibuster, what is to stop republicans from using that to their advantage in passing these kinds of voting restriction laws on a federal level if they succeed in the midterms? on anything that the democrats do, wouldn't the republicans, if they do win, make the same changes and reverse those laws within minutes of taking power? >> the argument is probably not as strong when it comes to the voting laws. i think it would be difficult to get rid of a wants unpopular law. republicans couldn't get rid of one when they had power. i think the democrats are more worried about the laws that they could pass that have nothing to do with voting rights. such as, rub portion restriction, gun laws -- rolling back environmental regulation. i'm not sure it's specifically in regards to building laws. but they may certainly try to get the law and get rid of some of the things that may be not as popular as early voting or mail-in voting which are both very popular. you know, we've seen mitch mcconnell. he did do this. when democrats lay the groundwork and took their first step on judicial nominations to get rid of the filibuster for a lower court judicial nomination. they took the next step to get rid of the filibuster for the supreme court and they benefited from that very much. >> yes, you make an interesting point. because ultimately the laws that to be passed by congress had to be signed by president. obviously, this president wouldn't do it if he doesn't fact lose control of either the house or the senate in the midterms. you would have at least two years to combat that. but you do bring an interesting point that they would then have the proactive ability to pass legislation when they have control of both the house senate and the white house. russell berman, great to speak to you. thank you so much for your time. really appreciated. >> thank you for having me. >> my pleasure. let's bring in congresswoman pramila jayapal, she's a democrat from washington. congresswoman, thank you so much. it's great to have you with us tonight. there is a lot to talk about here. as i mentioned, this week a group of bipartisan senators planned to meet virtually to discuss a more modest election overall bill. including changes to the electoral count act. would you support a scaled back piece of legislation like that? do you think that is the right approach right now given no movement on joe manchin and kyrsten sinema? n moveamen, it's great to see you. thank you for having me on. look, i don't think that you can even begin to think that the electoral count act and any changes that we would make there come close to addressing the issues that you've been covering around election subversion and voting rights suppression. and so, i don't think that we should confuse them as the alternative to the john lewis voting rights act nor the freedom to vote act. it is a completely different thing. is their support for it? sure. i think that is a legitimate thing to do. but let's not confuse it and think that it is a substitute. i think that the reality is that the country deserves to have a real debate and vote on these bills. and the filibuster, even if there was a small carve out just for voting rights, which by the way, have been done for so many other issues. that would allow this piece of legislation to move forward. and if the republicans come into power and decide that they are going to change it, now i just heard the reason for why that may not be the case, politic they were, that is the debate that a country should have. we should all get to see what a vote looks like. and we should actually be able to have a real discussion and a vote on these critical pieces of legislation. if we don't do that, aim in, we are going to see the continued suppression of votes across the country. and the things that we can do, we can try to continue to move legislation. we should remember, a year ago this time, there were a lot more than two senators who didn't want to reform the filibuster for voting rights. at least now, there's just too. so we need to keep at it. we need to do the word at the state level. and we need to continue to make the argument to the people about why this is so essential for our depart -- for democracy. >> let me talk to you for a moment about politics. this morning, your colleague elissa slotkin, was asked about the arizona party's decision to censure senator sinema over her support for the filibuster. let me play for you what she had to say. >> we yes. we i don't come from a school where your constantly airing dirty laundry. there are really big divisions in washington right now. period. democrat, republican, within each party. i just don't believe that the way that you get back at other people's by putting that on air, airing that publicly. >> do you agree with congresswoman elissa slotkin? or do you think arizona democrats made the right move to let senator sinema know that there should be a consequence going against the will of the people of arizona who overwhelmingly support it? >> i think it's two things. the arizona party is of the people. that is what the democratic party is. and so people are going to push because they are furious that their senator, who is a democrat, i think it's legitimate. at the same time i think what elissa slotkin is saying, we need to focus on the real things that have gotten done in the last year. and the things that we are going to do in this year. there is a 24/7 news cycle that is constantly talking about the divisions to the exclusion of the things that we've gotten, right? we reduced hunger by 32% last year. just in the last year because of the american rescue plan and a whole bunch of other things we did. we created, 6.4 million new jobs in one year. the most jobs that any new president has created in his first year. we brought unemployment down to just under 4%. and that is two years in advance of one unemployment was going to go down. we just have gone up. yes cost of gone up to. i know that. but people and workers have more choices in the jobs that they're able to take, better wages, better benefits and more choices. these are the things i wish we would cover. and i think for someone like elissa slotkin, was in a tough district, it is frustrating when only the divisions get talked about. and not the actual accomplishments of what we've gotten done in a year of the new democratic president and a democratic congress. yes. >> and not to take away anything about what the democrats have accomplished. but i do want to ask you about a priority from your party. the build back better bill. you and others in the caucus are right and thinking that the human composure would not get past. and senator manchin would find a way to back out of the agreement from the white house which we have seen play out. and here we are. but last week, we also saw some conflicting messages from the president and speaker pelosi. watch this. >> i am confident that we can get big chunks of the build back better law signed in law. i think that we can break the package up. get as much as we can now. and come back and fight for the rest later. >> what the president calls chunks, i hope it would be a major bill going forward. it may be more limited but it is still significant. >> so, as i understand, it this is obviously a reconciliation bill. you don't have many changes to come back and fight later. are the administration and democrats in congress on the same page here about the path forward? >> i think the terminology was confusing. it is not possible to break this up into a lot of pieces. because as you say, there's only one reconciliation bill. i think what the president was saying, i don't want to speak for him, but my understanding of what he was saying and reading the whole transcript is that we are going to get as much as we can get done of build back better done. because you remember, even, there was the framework that senator manchin agreed to. which was significant. it was about 1.5 trillion dollars. and a lot of key priorities for progressives for the presidents agenda. the house then passed an even bigger bill. and we put some things in that weren't in that framework. and what i believe is possible is to pass something that is very close to that framework. and that may be what the president is talking about when he says chunks. he is saying, take a big chunk of that bill that the house passed. and let's try to get that passed. so, that is our strategy now. and really, this is going to rely on the president going back to senator manchin and saying, look, my credibility is on the line as president. you committed to me. i committed to the country that we would get this done. and this is the deal. so i need you to come through now. i believe those conversations are starting to happen now. >> let me just ask you, finally, congresswoman, the chair of the progressive caucus you have been a key negotiator for this whole process. after senator manchin pulled his support from build back better last month, you released a statement and said he, quote, betrayed a statement not only to the president but to the democrats in congress but mostly importantly, to the american people. he can no longer say that. how do you go back to the table after that kind of betrayal? i mean, why would you even and do you even have any faith that senator joe manchin negotiates in good faith from hot. >> well, amy, and we don't have the luxury to give up. we just don't have the luxury to give up. we have to get these things done for the american people. this is what we all ran on as democrats. it's what the president ran on. it is black voters and young voters and poor voters in arizona and across the country came up and voted for. this is the democratic agenda. and so, it is really not an option for us to say, you know what, i am frustrated by the whole thing. i am just going to give up. that is number one. number two, i did have a conversation with senator manchin. and even in that conversation, the day after when he called me, there was so many things that he was still saying he supported. including universal pre-k, universal child care, housing, elder care, climate change. the health care subsidies as well. these are all the things that he said he supported. so, i just have to believe that we can get this done. because it is good for the american people. and it is good for the country to be able to deliver on this. and it's good for joe manchin. and for a state to be able to deliver on this as well >> congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us this evening. i greatly appreciate your time as always, it's good to see you. >> thank you ayman, good to see you as well. >> next, former fbi agent will be here, we're gonna find out what he thinks about trump seizing ballots. plus, richard louis with the headlines. ballots. thank you ayman, we're gonna start with some breaking news. issued a do not travel to ukraine. along the country's border is causing increased concern. nonemergency -- are authorized to depart the country. eligible family members are ordered to evacuate. president biden has warned military action, including invasion, could be imminent. firefighters, saturday, are trying to contain a wildfire that broke out along the california coast. hundreds of residents were evacuated. authorities shut down the stretch of highway one. the cause of this uncommon winter fire is unknown. and, new zealand is facing an omicron covid spike. new safety measures called the red setting were just released. requiring the prime minister herself to postpone her own wedding. the restrictions were put in place after nine omicron cases were detected in the single family household. more with ayman ayman mohyeldin, right after this break. ayman mohyeldin, ayman mohyeldin, right after thistaking a break from all your worries ♪ ♪sure would help a lot ♪ ♪wouldn't you like to get away? 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>> well, i don't know. but if we do or not, it really doesn't matter. it has no legal weight. the department of justice files when they think a crime has been committed. >> could this result in the same outcome as the mueller investigation? which, as we know, nothing legally came from it. which, awell, i think the two is here -- ayman, thank you for having me. it could result in criminal referral from doj. the point to make is that the doj doesn't need to wait for a referral from congress to investigate. but the thing is, people need to understand, much like the mueller report, wrongdoing doesn't necessarily result in prosecution. and i think people fall into the trap of thinking, well, if something is prosecuted then it must be wrong. if it isn't prosecuted, or wasn't prosecuted, therefore, that's fine. but that simply not the case. the standard for bringing a criminal case is very high. and it's much higher certainly than something that is inappropriate. it's certainly higher than something that you give people real pause about whether it's the people we want as elected officials in our government. so when it comes to trump, i think it's very important that he needs to be held accountable for the things that he did in the past administration. because the fact of the matter is, i think a lot of people assumed that when president biden was elected, and he was sworn in, that former president trump was going to go off and never return. but the fact of the matter is, he does remain a kingmaker in politics. and actually, if he did want to run for president in 2024, i think most experts would agree that he would be the clear front runner as the republican candidate. be tyou make a really interestig point about the threat that he still poses to, not only our politics, but our institutions, if he is somehow able to regain control. one of the ways, obviously, that a lot of people are looking for that to be stopped is the january six committee. in terms of what they could potentially uncover in terms of his wrongdoing from the previous time in office. how do you think the january six committee is doing right now based on what you have seen and heard? obviously, it's still early. but how would you grade their investigative work of what has been revealed? >> i think they are moving in a matter i would expect them to move towards. and that is starting at the bottom. looking at all the various players who are involved on the ground. and then from that, starting to move up to understand much like doj is doing separately, who were the groups involved in this activity. where the groups that were funding this activity. and then finally, to what extent with those people and those groups engaged in those conspiracies linked to people higher up. people in the white house, people around president trump whether that is folks like rudy giuliani, roger stone, or others. and certainly other members of congress who might have been involved in this. and then from that, move to the very top to try and get an understanding of who and what was the role of the president in the united states himself in the insurrection. and so, i think that they are following a very logical path of fort. i think that they understand very well that they face a hard potential deadline with the midterm elections. the democrats me no longer maintain the majority. and i expect that throughout the spring and summer, we are going to see an accelerating pace of hearings that the final report. which hopefully will shut a lot of light on what happened on january six. >> yes, and one of the things we learned this week, peter, is the bombshell report. and i wanted to get your thoughts on the reports to send national guard troops to seize voting machines after the 2020 election. the is a creative order was never signed. but the fact that it apparently won't be on the simple discussion was actually drafted into a document that could've been signed by the president of the united states. i have to assume, that is deeply troubling, how do you begin to investigate where that is in the possibility of a plot to overthrow the election? >> well, it's beyond troubling. this is one of the greatest threats that i have seen certainly in our lifetime. and in history, looking back at what our nation is facing -- the fact of the matter is, what is troubling, is that we should look at the people who are in the white house from press reporting at the time the plan was proposed. you had general mike flynn, who is the fighter disgraced former national security adviser who was convicted of lying to the fbi. of lying to me, about his contacts with the russian ambassador. you had sydney powell, his attorney who had worked with attorney general barr to walk back any type of jail time that plan might have faced, and finally had patrick byrne, who had been in a romantic relationship with a woman named maria butina, who had been sentenced to jail and later deported for acted as an unregistered agent for the government of russia. so those folks, that you are sitting in the oval office, in late december, presenting this plan to former president trump. and you can't make this up. if you take a step back, and you look not only at the staggering implications of this plan to use the military or the national guard or federal law enforcement agency to seize voting machines to essentially redo a majority vote that gave over 7 million votes to president biden that were given to president trump, that is simply a staggering act. atop these folks with the foreign connections that they, have in their offices presenting it is deeply troubling. peter strzok, thank you so much for joining us. we greatly appreciate your insight. coming, up we're following the very latest out of eastern europe. we're a do not travel warning is now in effect for ukraine for american citizens. we are going to break down the u.s. russia tensions. the liberty, liberty ♪ with hepatitis c i felt i couldn't be at my best for my family. in only 8 weeks with mavyret i was cured. i worried about my hep c. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret i was cured. mavyret is the only 8-week cure for all types of hep c. before starting mavyret your doctor will test if you've had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b, a liver or kidney transplant, other liver problems, hiv-1,or other medical conditions, and all medicines you take. don't take mavyret with atazanavir or rifampin, or if you've had certain liver problems. if you've had or have serious liver problems other than hep c, there's a rare chance they may worsen. signs of serious liver problems may include yellowing of the skin, abdominal pain or swelling, confusion, and unexplained bleeding or bruising. tell your doctor if you develop symptoms of liver disease. common side effects include headache and tiredness. with hep c behind me, i feel free fearless because i am cured. talk to your doctor about mavyret. learn how abbvie could help you save. nothing like a weekend in the woods. it's a good choice all around, like screening for colon cancer... when caught in early stages it's more treatable. i'm cologuard. i'm noninvasive... and i detect altered dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers... even in early stages. early stages. yep. it's for people 45 plus at average risk for colon cancer, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider if cologuard is right for you. we're in. well, would you look at that? 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how has president biden done. >> you know, i would like to give an incomplete, however, it is kind of looking, with everything going on like a b minus, maybe. it's not. good c+? b minus. will be a little. fair he restored some alliances. but you know, kabul, kyiv, aukus, there's a lot there to unpack. >> so, what is your sense of america's standing right now? you said he wanted america back. he said there could be other signs that the relationships have gotten better to opposed to when trump was in power. but at the same time, just this, week you at the french president say that he is calling on the europeans to think of their own security concerns and to forge their own path when it comes to dealings with russia. i am not saying he's, right i'm just saying is that also a sign that the european allies are not necessarily confident that america's back? >> listen, this is really complicated. because on one hand, president biden went in there with the real opportunity here. to say, america's back, the pelosi's back. and the fact of the matter is that he restored some alliances. the remove some trade restrictions. thanks with the european are certainly better than they were under president trump. but, that doesn't mean that we have to upset them. that things are all that rosy. by the way, they don't see us as flailing and us divided, right? and we can't underestimate what that does around the. world so number one, we have pissed off the french with the caucus deal. that could've been handled a lot better. the germans and the, break certainly unhappy about how we unveiled afghanistan. if you are going to say, that america's, backbone you have to project strength on the world stage. and, that is actually really what i believe what happened a year ago. but i have seen that entirely. now, things with the allies, like i said, their little better. but there are a lot of challenges between the pandemic, locally here with how the appearance of democracy. and the challenges around the world. it's almost like, he's got 99 problems but these ain't one. >> look at you throwing a little jay-z and there. let's talk about one of the major issues that has been unresolved. and it is when i was just talking about. the situation in yemen. and our relationships with saudi arabia and other gulf countries. why has that been such a dismal failure? >> such a failure. i completely agree with you by the way. i think that they are -- listen, they are trying to figure this out. the problem is. you don't have time to figure it out when you are president. i said the same thing when president trump came to office. you don't have time to figure it out. you are the president of the united states, right? and he has a team that is a well seasoned team in foreign policy. they went into office thinking that they could fundamentally change how foreign policy is pursued in washington. and i think that was the right goal. putting human rights at the center. putting corruption at the center of foreign policy. they certainly seem to have been pursuing that when it comes to china. right? but when it comes to everywhere else. saudi arabia, egypt, the uae, right? those arm sales continue. no policy on syria. nobody knows what this administration is going to pursue when it comes to the elusive -- palestinian conflict. libya, we are all waiting what is going on. and that is not what -- we don't have the luxury as the u.s. government to portray like we are just figuring it out. because other countries take advantage of that. right? you and i know this. we know the other side of the world very well. and we know how these dictators behave. and most of them are thugs. and they look at any perceived sign of weakness as a sign that they can harp on. something they can jump off. and i think that they said that they would be this -- project this strength. but they are little afraid. they can't be afraid, but that is what they look like. >> let's talk about one of the issues a little bit closer to home. the crisis in central america and the border countries to the united states. president biden bat to take a humane approach to the issue. has that been the case in dealing with migration across our southern border? >> this is such a mess. for a number of reasons. want, to answer your question, no. his approach has not really been all that more humane. on the flip side, when you have a major increase in migrants. which is what you had as soon as he took office. as soon as he took office. the few months afterwards. you had a huge increase. i think that remains to be the case. right after haiti and all of these issues that we had. you have this huge increase. why? because of migrants abroad. they believe, generally believe, that president biden was going to be softer. not just in terms of how they would would be treated, but that they would be opening borders more to him. the fact that they believe that, even though that is false. the fact that they believe that is the fault of the biden team. i worked in communications. i know how it is. if you don't communicate clearly and know how to reach the audience properly, then that is on you. that is your fault. if you are making speeches. and migrants abroad are not hearing that. that is our fault. and that is the problem. there is no end in sight on that. this is going to remain a problem i think for the first of the rest of the term. >> always a pleasure, good to see you my friend. thank you for that insightful exchange. coming up, one of the largest humanitarian crises in the world. want to help, we will tell you more about it? >> stick around. about it? about it? >> stick in-wash scent boosters. 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