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in for stephanie ruhle, it is thursday, january 20th and we have a lot to get to. this morning a major loss for former president trump after the supreme court denied his request to block the january 6th committee from seeing hundreds of his white house documents. we will break down what information the kbhe got handed within hours and is now pouring over. also, when could the public see it? plus overnight the senate slamming the door on voting rights legislation. president biden says without it he can't guarantee the midterms will be legitimate. and with the world on edge waiting for president putin's next move the white house now doing damage control after the president seemed to open the door for putin to do a, quote, minor incursion. we will take you inside ukraine. but i want to start with the president officially kicking off his second year in office today after marking that occasion with a nearly two hour long press conference. while he took some criticism for things like the afghanistan withdrawal, his stalled agenda and sky high covid cases, the president made no apologies for his strategy and insists he has made more progress than many people realize. i have an all star panel with me this morning, nbc's mike memoli is at the white house, ali vitali is on capitol hill, ashley parker is white house bureau chief for the "washington post" and onna for the pbs news hour, also heidi heitkamp who served six years as a democratic senator from north dakota. great to have all of you here. mike, big picture, what's your take away from the press conference? did you see the reset the white house had been promising? >> reporter: well, chris, obviously there was a lot made about the fact that that was only the second white house news conference that president biden has had since taking office, but it ended up being twice as long as his first one, a two for one deal. a lot of questions, a lot to unpack from that press conference, especially on foreign policy, but as we look at take a ways from his first year in office and the promises the president has made, those he hasn't fulfilled, you saw a little bit of that reset we've been reporting about for the last few days. the president saying he has been frustrated he's been spending so much time in washington and he wants to get out on the road, talk more directly to the american people. he hasn't been able to look people in the eyes and get a feel for them and them get a feel for what he's doing. part of his message yesterday is that, yes, we have done a lot but there's a lot more to do. let's take a look at that part of that from the president. >> i didn't overpromise. what i have probably outperformed what anybody thought would happen. the fact of the matter is that we're in a situation where we have made enormous progress. >> reporter: and as we look ahead to the midterm elections the president's approval rating in dangerous position for any party that's in power, the democrats want to keep those after the midterms. the president tried to make this midterm elections a choice for voters rather than a referendum on him and the democratic party. he kept asking where are republicans? what do they stand for? what does mitch mcconnell stand for? a preview of what's to come in the year ahead for this president. >> ali, on one hand you have president biden saying democrats need to tell the story of their accomplishments but hours later they get handed dual dee gets that everybody knew were coming. is there a disconnect there? >> reporter: chris, the disconnect didn't even come hours later, it came in some ways as the president was giving his press conference yesterday because several of us up here on the hill ended up having to listen to president biden in one ear and then an address from senator joe manchin on the senate floor on voting rights at the exact same time. again, highlighting that disconnect that even as the president talked about the need to move forward on voting rights, you had senator joe manchin once again standing at the crossroads and ultimately voting with republicans not to change the senate rules in order for democrats to be able to pass that voting rights package that they've been pushing for so many months. that's where the senate stands at this juncture. having to figure out what the next step is on voting rights while also hearing from the president that he wants them to tout the things that they have been able to accomplish. that's going to look like talking more about the infrastructure package that passed, but also it means back to the drawing board on things like build back better. that larger climate and social spending package that once again manchin stood in the way of, now the conversation turns to what pieces of that they're effectively going to chunk up and be able to pass potentially as individual pieces of legislation or as a much smaller more targeted package. we know and manchin has been consistent on the things that he likes and doesn't like that were in build back better, so now it's back to the drawing board in terms of what he can actually pass, but certainly a defeat last night on voting rights as biden tries to turn the page and launch democrats into the midterms. >> so i want to get to both of those things, build back better and voting rights. let me start there. president biden said after those votes he was disappointed but not deterred, but in a practical sense what does that mean? what's the strategy going forward? what hasn't been done that suddenly might change minds? >> i think if you ask the white house oftentimes they point on voting rights specifically to some of the individual actions the president has taken in the past, executive actions that have done things like doubled the numbers of voting enforcement officers in departments of justice, but you're right, legislatively the path ahead is very uncertain. it's clear that that support is not there on the republican side and any support among democrats to change the filibuster rules and push ahead with voting rights legislation isn't there because of senator joe manchin and senator kyrsten sinema. so the question ahead is is there a possibility of breaking up and pulling out pieces of that, campaign finance, the end kind of things in that existing legislation that's not moving forward, they could get republican and all democratic support behind. we don't yet know if that's going to happen. but the president is not backing away from that. he is doubling down on that, they are calling it an existential threat to democracy if these steps don't go forward. he's going to need a lot more support not only from republicans but from his own party if any of that is to happen. >> ashley, it was also notable that the president talked about breaking down some of his big promises, the build back better into smaller pieces. does the rest of the democratic party, though, agree with that approach? essentially what may come down to getting something is better than nothing. >> well, that in some ways also makes things harder, you know, they're trying to has build back better through a process known as reconciliation as you start breaking things down, there then become open questions with the parliamentarian about what you can and cannot get through using that process. another thing related to breaking things down, president biden was asked pretty directly what happens to the child tax credit which is sort of his signature progressive move so far in this first year and he sort of admitted to the political reality that for now he's just going to have to jettison that. when you have a democratic party that's progressives, moderates and some who as yesterday voted with the republicans, no, not everyone is going to be happy with that strategy, but it is a strategy borne out of the tough political reality that this president is currently facing. >> senator heitkamp, to the point of political reality, we are in a very important election year. the president clearly was making an effort to tack back to the center, called himself capitalist multiple times, he went out of his way to put space, say, between himself and bernie sanders. i like the guy, but i'm not bernie sanders. what do you make of that in the context of where the democratic party is right now? >> i think it's part of the reset, but, you know, i think you have to separate the executive agenda now from the legislative agenda and i thought the most telling part of this press conference was when he said the people don't want a president who is also a senator. he's basically signaling i will work with you but i'm on my own track now. on voting rights, you're going to see a very much much more aggressive department of justice, you're going to see the lawsuits that mark ileus has initiated take front row and center, be talked about more. i think on build back better don't count out child tax credit. you are to remember that there are senators who are also going to negotiate it. michael bennet, this is his baby, there are many, many senators who really love the child credit. joe has said i will do the child credit it has to be means tested and not for everybody you say it's for. i think you will see build back better because reconciliation is not a prize that you should ever waste. so you're going to see the legislative agenda turning to build back better, what can we get done? it's got to be paid for in ten years because that's joe manchin's bottom line. and the president is going to become the president and ignore what happens on capitol hill. >> so it's very interesting what the senator just brought up, this whole idea of separating how he operated as a senator and he ran on it frankly, right, on people who can bring both sides together, but as somebody who is president and needs to steer the ship. so i guess my question is -- let me play first what he had to say about the republican side of the aisle. >> i did not anticipate that there would be such a stalwart effort to make sure that the most important thing was that president biden didn't get anything done. think about this. what are republicans for? what are they for? name me one thing they're for. >> so is the strategy let's push back more forcefully, no more mr. nice guy, no more spending lots of time getting people to come over and talk to me or going to the hill? what did you hear in terms of the context of this election year? >> that one moment you played was one of the most striking moments from the press conference for me. for him to say i didn't anticipate that level of push back, because candidate biden was asked about that again and again, it was essentially a part of his campaign that he could unite this country, he could based on his years of experience and relationships working in the senate be able to get republicans to work with him. i remember asking him about that in the december 2019 presidential debate and he doubled down on it. i can get this done. and the disconnect there right now is that he has not been able to get that done. we've seen that time and time again. so moving forward it sounds like if senator heitkamp says he will be sort of separating the executive agenda, spending more time not on capitol hill, negotiating directly with those members of congress, that's a way to kind of carry this forward based on what he didn't anticipate. but i think the surprising thing for a lot of us is that that's the other disconnect that the president was really admitting to and acknowledging publicly yesterday was that people see that, that gridlock that he said that he could break, it hasn't changed, and covid and the economy right now are the two chief things on everyone's minds out there. he is still very much trying to claw back successes on both of those, even for all the remarkable success the administration has made with the millions of people vaccinated, unemployment at an all time low, 6 million jobs back. people don't feel today their lives are remarkably better than they were a year ago and that's what the president has promised. so year one in it's still a bit of a disconnect. >> senator, we are not just out of time, we are over time, but i have to ask you this question. given all of that and knowing that the president intends to get out there and make his case, will democrats who are running for office want him to? >> you know, it doesn't matter because you're going to be a democrat, you're going to run as a democrat. joe biden's success and how he does in your state, how people feel about him, that's going to determine your political fortune. so you're going to do everything you can to make sure that joe biden's favorability in your state increase dramatically or you are not going to get reelected. >> senator heidi heitkamp, mike memory and ashley, thanks to all of you. also this morning russian and ukrainian troops remain locked in a standoff. president biden now predicting vladimir putin will ultimately send troops across the border, but he also raised some eyebrows with this remark about potential consequences for russia. >> russia will be held accountable if it invades, and it depends on what it does. it's one thing if it's a minor incursion and we end up having to fight about what to do and not do, et cetera, but if they actually do what they're capable of doing with the force amassed on the border it is going to be a disaster for russia. >> within an hour administration officials tried to walk that back, insisting that for the purposes of the u.s. response any action would be interpreted as a renewed invasion. the vice president doubled down on that this morning. >> if vladimir putin and russia takes aggressive action, it will be met with a cost that will be severe. >> but the damage may be done. nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel is in kiev. he has more on how the comments are being received in that part of the world. >> reporter: the ukrainian government is clearly upset and rattled by president biden's comments and you can see it in their denials. you can see it in their emphatic insistence that nothing is wrong. you don't insist that nothing is wrong unless there is something wrong. the ukrainian president came out and said that he sees in differences between the u.s. and ukraine and that president biden's speech didn't change u.s. policy. the ukrainian foreign minister said that it's not important to look at the specific language that president biden was using and that u.s. policy remains unchanged. he insisted that there can be no difference between a small incursion or a large invasion, and that is really the heart of the matter here because president biden in his speech seemed to suggest -- strongly seemed to suggest, although it was clarified later by the white house -- that a small russian military incursion would elicit one response, potentially a lesser response, than a major russian invasion, which president biden said would trigger crippling economic sanctions. the ukrainian foreign minister said you can't have half-measures. so the ukrainian government is trying to say no problem here, but the more they say it, the more you realize that they are deeply concerned. chris? >> thanks so much, richard. joining me now ian bremmer, president and founder of the eurasia group and g zero media. let me let you pick up on what richard said and your interpretation of what you heard from the president. >> yeah, two things. first of all, it is very obvious that the americans have strong support from nato allies in how to respond to a russian invasion of ukraine, tanks in, air strikes, cyber and the overthrow of the ukrainian government. that would be met by severe and complete economic breakdown in relations between the americans, the europeans and russia and also a military response in terms of aggressive positioning of forces towards the russian border in the baltics, crimea and the rest. that is very different than how the americans would respond if, for example -- what's a limited incursion? i think this is the question people are trying to understand. putin has said on several occasions now that the ukrainian government is involved in acts of genocide against russian passport holders in occupied dunbas, this is a part of ukrainian territory but has declared itself independent. what if the russians were to roll tanks to defend those russian citizens? that would be a limited incursion. technically it would also be an invasion. i promise you the europeans are not on board with the americans on how strong they should respond to such an intervention, i'm also certain biden's response to putin would be very different than if you had thousands of people dead and a full on invasion. i understand that there are a lot of people that want to jump on the daylight between those two issues but the reality is that the reality is and the russians are also fully aware of this. >> all right. so we have secretary of state antony blinken in germany right now, he is meeting with our european counterparts ahead of the meeting with sergey lavrov tomorrow. how do -- if all in your opinion -- the president's comments impact those negotiations, influence those talks? >> i think they make it clear that we do not have the europeans where we'd like to along the constellation of potential outcomes. in particular the statements made by french president macron in the last 24 hours that basically seem to freelance, said that the eu needs to create their own security arrangements with the russians. that is a fundamentally unuseful thing for macron to say. i mean, of all of the missteps over the course of the last 24 hours on ukraine, macron has done far more damage to the western position than anything biden said in his press conference. now, some of that might be macron still has peek in the way he was treated with the aucus announcement that he wasn't aware: it's possible that biden hasn't managed that relationship as well as he needs to, but there is a problem and the german chancellor of course is a new german chancellor and he has expressed more flexibility in wanting to engage with the russians because of the importance of russian gas delivery to germany, and frankly, that's not exactly in the position that the americans would like them to be in. so i think we have to recognize that not only is ukraine not a first-order issue for the united states in terms of national security, it's not taiwan, it's not mexico, but also the europeans have a lot more at stake economically with the russians than the americans do, and this makes this more difficult to engage with them diplomatically. >> ian, it's always great to have you because you help us to understand the complexities of what's going on, even reminding us of things like the new german chancellor, this is a world without angela merkel. i'm sure we will talk more. up next, big blow to former president trump. the supreme court rejects his request to block hundreds of pages of documents from the january 6th committee. what we might be able to see and what it means big picture for this investigation. t means big t means big this investigationstination. uh, i-i'm actually just going to get an iced coffee. well, she may have a destination this one time, but usually -- no, i-i usually have a destination. yeah, but most of the time, her destination is freedom. nope, just the coffee shop. announcer: no matter why you ride, progressive has you covered with protection starting at $79 a year. voiceover: 'cause she's a biker... please don't follow me in. ♪ life can be a lot to handle. ♪ this magic moment ♪ but heinz knows there's plenty of magic in all that chaos. ♪ so different and so new ♪ ♪ was like any other... ♪ doesn't your family deserve the best? 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>> yes is the answer to that. quickly let me explain how we got here. so january 6th committee asked for these documents, biden says i'm not going to assert executive privilege, president trump sues, he loses in two lower courts, he goes to the supreme court and says, okay, i want to appeal these decisions against me, but in the meantime i want you, supreme court, to block these documents from being handed over until you decide whether to take my case. that's what the supreme court said no to yesterday, it's not going to block the handover, but this is clearly a sign that the supreme court also is not going to hear his appeal. it's going to be moot anyway. any future attempts by the president to go back to court and once again try to block archives are doomed to failure because of this. >> so do we know if these documents will be made public? >> well, the committee can make them public if it wants to. the archives will hand them over to the committee and the committee can make them public. >> we don't know the specifics of what's in every one of these documents, harry, but put them into the context of the overall investigation, what they bring to the table in terms of finding out the whole story about how we got to the point of insurrection. >> we have a pretty good idea, however, because when the committee first moved they laid out the categories and they had to give a legal justification for why they had a right to them. basically they're looking to -- they're pretty basic and looking to put together a whole narrative of a white house just buzzing with different plans to impede the election and stop the count and the different places that trump was trying to apply pressure to. where was he day by day, hour by hour, especially on the 6th, and then a very important point they gave five justifications, one was what was he told about the accuracy of the 2020 election? so does his press secretary's notes or his chief of staff notes indicate that somebody told him, do you know what, this is not a very strong claim? so they're trying to put together a whole picture of a president scheming in any way possible to try to apply pressure wherever pressure points might appear. >> let me ask you a highly nonlawyer question because a word that appeared over and over again as i was looking at the list was draft. this is what they were thinking about not necessarily what they ultimately decided to do. where do drafts fit into narrative? >> yeah, so do you know what, it's a total lawyerly question because the difference between draft and final has all kinds of implications for the presidential records act, whether you save it. draft is the all purpose little stamp that says we don't have to comply with the bigger important procedures. chris, can i make a quick note about the supreme court? >> sure. it's true what pete said about biden having made the decision and you might have thought that would be a weighty question for this supreme court, can biden trump, but they said that we don't have to decide it because the court of appeals said even if -- even under trump's arguments he still loses because these documents are really important. so it does set the stage for a future consideration of document by document. it doesn't just give a total you get everything. nevertheless, as pete says, these documents are going over the barn door is open and no one is going to revisit it. >> harry, pete, great to talk to both of you. thank you so much. up next, president biden's agenda in limbo one year after he was sworn in. so what do voters in a key swing state think and can democrats win them back? 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donald trump a year into his presidency biden is doing a tick better than trump, trump was under 40% approval at this point. you go back to barack obama and you can see obama was actually at 50% approval at this point, the numbers were heading down, but he was still at 50%. biden is in between where trump and obama were, of course, the problem there for biden and democrats, both trump and obama suffered very difficult midterm elections and biden is right within that range obviously where his two predecessors were. if they look closer at that 43% approval rating, you can break it down by race, white voters 60% plus disapprove of biden, one we are keeping an eye on, these are small samples but the hispanic vote we saw indications in the 2020 election it was a little bit more republican, less democratic than expected, there was a bit of a swing there, is that something that's going to continue into the 2022 midterms? obviously that's a number we will be keeping an eye on every poll we see this year. look at this, from two issues, the standpoint of two issues, you can track the trajectory of biden's presidency. number one obviously the economy, here is our polling, here is how biden has been faring as we've polled throughout his first year in office, his performance on the economy started out just over 50%, it ticked down all through 2021 and now it's just a 38% approval rating for joe biden's handling of the economy, but i think the one here, the one issue that sticks out even more, probably sticks out the most is this, chris. covid. biden's handling of covid, this was his strongest spot in polling when his presidency began, you can see in early 2021 nearly 70% approved of biden's handling of covid, you can see how that number came down through 2021 and now for the first time in our polling joe biden is under water almost ten points under water when it comes to his handling of the pandemic. look at that, from 69 to 44. he's lost 25 points on his covid approval rating over his first year in office. >> thank you so much for that, steve corny. dasha, here in luzerne county, pennsylvania, we look at poll numbers and we want to know why. what's going on particularly in those key counties. this is a blue dog democratic stronghold that turned red in 2016. what are voters there telling you? >> reporter: look, chris, to quote mr. james carville who famously said it's the economy, stupid, look, it really, really is here. voters that i talked to say the economy is the reason that democrats lost this county that was once a democratic stronghold, as you say, and right now it's these voters here who say they are being hit incredibly hard by inflation and by these supply chain issues. you can see that just about every corner you turn here in luzerne county. i'm at a locally-owned gas station where they tell me that gas prices at this station have gone up about 90 cents in the last year and this is a region that realize heavily on oil, on gas. a lot of trucking and just about every business here and those trucks are hard to keep on the road, hard to fill up at the tank because of the prices and people are also having a hard time finding basic parts. i have a gentleman down the road here who has a topsoil business, he can't get truck tires for his trucks even if he is willing to pay a higher price for them. and this is what voters say, democrats they feel like have left behind their blue collar base. i want you to hear from a gentleman named ed harry who is pretty representative of the shift that has happened in this county. he was a lifelong democrat, five decades of voting blue and he is now voting republican and take a listen to what he says about the biden administration now. >> for my house heating oil, double from last year. went from 400 and some dollars to almost $1,000. >> wow. >> and that's probably going to be once a month until march or april. i'm a vet. what happened in afghanistan bothers me to no end and i just think the whole economy is a mess and i have to blame that on joe. >> reporter: look, chris, we know there are so many different factors that have an impact on the economy, on inflation, on the supply chain, but the sitting president often takes the heat for the economy and that is certainly the case here, even voters i've talked to who did vote for joe biden are frustrated with what they see as a lack of the administration really talking to the people about these issues directly. i think right now price and politics have perhaps never been more intertwined, chris. >> dasha burns, thank you for that. that leads me to the chair of the democratic national committee jaime harrison. good to see. >> you good to see you. >> we just saw the poll numbers that steve talked about, 38% approving of the president's handling of the economy. look, credit where credit is due, low unemployment, higher wages, the president can talk about all those things, but if people keep going to the gas pump, keep going into the grocery store -- procter & gamble said in the last 24 hours we're going to raise prices again. people need laundry detergent. these are the luxuries. how do you go out and make your case to the american people when they just see their prices going up, up, up? >> two things, chris. one of the things is the president is really saved this economy. think about how things would be right now if we did not pass the american rescue plan. the reason why schools are open right now is because democrats under the leadership of joe biden put money back into those -- into those schools. without any republican support. same thing with many of our hospitals and our cities who desperately needed resources. we were able to stabilize the economy and even grow and add more jobs to the economy because of the investments made in the american rescue plan. but the president also said the other day that we've got to go out and sell these accomplishments. think about all of the things that we have been able to do. we know that covid is still the wet blanket that is really not only here in america, but all over the globe. it is really holding down us starting back and getting back to normalcy but this administration is doubling down on that and they're stressing the urgency for folks to get vaccinated and boosted. if more people can do that then we can get back to normal quicker. and then we will see all of the things that we enjoy and that feeling that we have that things are -- remember how we were going into the summer, a lot of people thought that we were getting back to normal but we still had a lot of americans who were not vaccinated, we saw the covid numbers increase. we need to do our part to get this economy back on track. >> but is that a message, mr. chairman, is that a message that resonates with people? i mean, is that going to work or do people look and say, the buck stops here? do people look at hospitals and say, well, the american rescue plan helped them or do they say i just see hospitals overwhelmed, doctors and nurses leaving the profession in record numbers? i mean, i'm trying to figure out how you make that case looking forward as opposed to looking back. here is what i've done. because you know human nature is what have you done for me lately? >> yeah, well, the democrats are continuing to do things for the american people. the components of the build back better agenda are just that. i mean, we know that right now for a lot of people to get back to work, a lot of women to get back to work, they have to tackle the issue of child care. well, guess what, in joe biden's proposal he has a provision about child care, giving families almost $10,000 back a year on the child care expenses. that's how you make people feel like things are getting better. >> so you think what he talked about which is this approach of putting it in chunks and maybe selling each chunk for lack of a better word individually may work? because it's easier to message that than something big and complicated? >> well, i think -- i think that may have to be the path that we go down, chris, because, you know, sometimes when you look at his big plans, there was a lot in that, and a lot of people just -- it was so big that so many people don't understand the great things that were in there to benefit them and their families and their community. so we need to break it up, make the republicans who don't have an agenda -- remember, chris, this is a party that we are fighting back against who didn't pass a platform in 2020. mcconnell and mccarthy have already said they don't have a policy platform for 2022. so they don't stand for anything, they don't believe in anything other than fear, fraud and fascism. we need to put on the floor every single day a vote on these big provisions that will help and impact the american people and relieve some of the pressure and the tensions that they have dealing with the impact of covid. >> jaime harrison, so much more i want to talk to you about. i hope you will come back again. thank you for taking the time this morning. coming up, the u.s. just saw its worst day for covid deaths so far this year. what a new cdc study just revealed about immunity from the virus. we will dig into this next. the the virus. when you switch to t-mobile and bring your own device, we'll pay off your phone up to $800. you can keep your phone. keep your number. we will dig into this next ed on the largest and fastest 5g network. plus, we give you $200 in facebook ads on us! so you can reach more customers, create more opportunities, and make this the best year for your business yet. visit your local t-mobile store today. subway's eat fresh refresh has so many new footlongs, here's how they line up. we got the new chicken & bacon ranch, new baja steak & jack, and the new baja chicken & bacon, aka "the smokeshow." save big. order through the app. save big. aleve-x. it's fast, powerful long-lasting relief with a revolutionary, rollerball design. because with the right pain reliever... life opens up. aleve it... and see what's possible. nyquil severe gives you powerful relief for your worst cold and flu symptoms, on sunday night and every night. nyquil severe. the nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy head, best sleep with a cold, medicine. >> vo: my car is my after-work decompression zone. ♪ music ♪ >> vo: so when my windshield broke... i found the experts at safelite autoglass. they have exclusive technology and service i can trust. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ i'm greg, i'm 68 years old. i do motivational speaking in addition to the substitute teaching. i honestly feel that that's my calling-- to give back to younger people. i think most adults will start realizing that they don't recall things as quickly as they used to or they don't remember things as vividly as they once did. i've been taking prevagen for about three years now. people say to me periodically, "man, you've got a memory like an elephant." it's really, really helped me tremendously. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. this morning and they're not good. yesterday 3,129 people died from coronavirus, the highest number of deaths so far this year. at the same time there's this new cdc study, it says both vaccination and prior infection help protect against the delta variant, the study points out vaccines still offer the best defense against severe illness, but when you look at prior infections, again, helpful, although this study does not apply to the current omicron surge which of course accounts for the majority of cases, more than 99% in the u.s. right now. let me bring in dr. ashish jha, dean of brown university school of public health. it's interesting, one of the things the president talked about yesterday is how fast this all moves, right, and it has moved quickly. so does this study because it largely deals with delta, give us any guidance about where we are right now? >> first of all, chris, thanks for having me back. the way i would look at it is it's one of many study that have looked at the question of does getting an infection give you immunity going forward? the question is it does, it clearly helps. one of the bigger questions has been is it as good as getting vaccinated and i think most of the evidence suggests that being infect and recovering is not as good as getting vaccinated and obviously you have all the down sides of getting infected. i look at this study in a broad picture and say, yes, infection induced immunity is helpful, not good enough, and we are seeing a lot of people with reinfections in omicron and that's not surprising giving how immune invasive omicron is. >> it also seems because -- well, lots of reasons. people are taking their foot off the gas pedal, boris johnson had his political scandal here, you see more schools lifting mask mandates, starbucks decided to suspend its vaccine requirement. are you concerned whether it's politics or exhaustion or court cases that all of that may be overriding this science, taking the foot off the pedal too soon? >> i would say a couple of things, first of all, i do think we're past the peak of the omicron surge, it does not mean we're done. 3,000 americans died yesterday, 800,000 infections still happening. we have several weeks to go before this infection -- before the infection numbers really get low. i wouldn't do anything differently right now, i would not stop masking right now. the question is what about after that? vaccines are a part of the long term strategy so we've got to keep our foot on the pedal on that. masking, absolutely, when infection numbers get low it's perfectly reasonable to remove mask mandates because we want to have them for surges but not all the time. therefore, i think that's a more reasonable policy, but vaccines and pushing them, that's going to be our long-term ticket out of this pandemic. >> so you just reiterated what we said yesterday was the worst day this year in terms of deaths, the last time we hit 3,000 was december 23rd. you mentioned, you know, we still have a few more weeks at least to this. how bad is it going to get? >> that's a great question and i'm worried, obviously, that we're going to see deaths continue to rise for probably another week or two because that's been pretty much the pattern. deaths always follow hospitalizations. hospitalizations look like they've peaked as well. i hope it's not going to get meaningfully larger than we are. again, much lower than what would have happened. given the infection numbers, thank god that omicron is a little bit less severe and we have a very vaccinated population, but 2,000, 3,000 deaths a day is still a lot of people -- a lot of people losing their lives, a lot of families being devastated. >> dr. jha, always great to see you. thank you so much. coming up, important information on that mysterious havana syndrome. the cia has a new but controversial assessment about whether a foreign power could be behind what made so many foreign diplomats sick. one of the reporters who broke the story joins us next. sick one of the rorepters who broke the story joins us next. ♪ life can be a lot to handle. ♪ this magic moment ♪ but heinz knows there's plenty of magic in all that chaos. ♪ so different and so new ♪ ♪ was like any other... ♪ hey lily, i need a new wireless plan for my business, but all my employees need something different. oh, we can help with that. okay, imagine this. your mover, rob, he's on the scene and needs a plan with a mobile hotspot. we cut to downtown, your sales rep lisa has to send some files, like asap! so basically i can pick the right plan for each employee. yeah i should've just led with that. with at&t business. you can pick the best plan for each employee and get the best deals on every smart phone. henry quellar of texas will fully cooperate in any investigation after reports the fbi raided his home wednesday. a spokesperson says agents were "conducting court-authorized law enforcement activity in the quint of cuellar's home." we'll bring you information as we get it. the mysterious and widespread medical symptoms known as havana syndrome. hundreds of u.s. officials in more than a dozen countries reported memory loss to nausea after hearing bizarre sounds. the cia believes the ill as soon as not the result of a sustained global campaign from a foreign enemy. a conclusion this morning is leaving a lot of people who got sick with it dissatisfied. nbc's ken dilanian broke this story. the cia says this is not a sustained global campaign from a hostile power but at the same time is not ruling out foreign involvement? >> that's exactly the right question, chris. you go right at the complexity and nuance here. i can remember being on set at 30 rock three years ago when u.s. believed russia was a top suspect in what they considered at the time to be attacks on u.s. personnel. in the three years since after an intensive intelligence investigation, they have found no evidence pointing to russia or any other foreign power having a hand in what they call anomalous health incidents and what's more, in about a thousand cases of people who have come forward with symptoms, in the vast majority of the cases, according to this new assessment, they have found other more plausible alternate non-nefarious explanations so they're left with a handful of cases, about two dozen, including many of the original cohort who suffered at the u.s. embassy in havana back in 2016 where they can't explain and they can't rule out foreign involvement but they wanted to dispel the idea that there was this massive campaign by a foreign power, russia or somebody else attacking americans around the globe, because it was having a real effect on the workforce. cia officers, chris, were declining to take overseas asignments because they were worried. when they made a call for symptoms, anybody who has an unexplained headache, vertigo, dizziness, come forward, that created an impression there were far more cases of this than there are. as you said, this is very controversial. the cia in many ways struck out on its own here with this assessment. the department of defense is not on board and many victims are challenging this and saying more investigation needs to happen. chris? 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in for stephanie ruhle, it is thursday, january 20th and we have a lot to get to. this morning a major loss for former president trump after the supreme court denied his request to block the january 6th committee from seeing hundreds of his white house documents. we will break down what information the kbhe got handed within hours and is now pouring over. also, when could the public see it? plus overnight the senate slamming the door on voting rights legislation. president biden says without it he can't guarantee the midterms will be legitimate. and with the world on edge waiting for president putin's next move the white house now doing damage control after the president seemed to open the door for putin to do a, quote, minor incursion. we will take you inside ukraine. but i want to start with the president officially kicking off his second year in office today after marking that occasion with a nearly two hour long press conference. while he took some criticism for things like the afghanistan withdrawal, his stalled agenda and sky high covid cases, the president made no apologies for his strategy and insists he has made more progress than many people realize. i have an all star panel with me this morning, nbc's mike memoli is at the white house, ali vitali is on capitol hill, ashley parker is white house bureau chief for the "washington post" and onna for the pbs news hour, also heidi heitkamp who served six years as a democratic senator from north dakota. great to have all of you here. mike, big picture, what's your take away from the press conference? did you see the reset the white house had been promising? >> reporter: well, chris, obviously there was a lot made about the fact that that was only the second white house news conference that president biden has had since taking office, but it ended up being twice as long as his first one, a two for one deal. a lot of questions, a lot to unpack from that press conference, especially on foreign policy, but as we look at take a ways from his first year in office and the promises the president has made, those he hasn't fulfilled, you saw a little bit of that reset we've been reporting about for the last few days. the president saying he has been frustrated he's been spending so much time in washington and he wants to get out on the road, talk more directly to the american people. he hasn't been able to look people in the eyes and get a feel for them and them get a feel for what he's doing. part of his message yesterday is that, yes, we have done a lot but there's a lot more to do. let's take a look at that part of that from the president. >> i didn't overpromise. what i have probably outperformed what anybody thought would happen. the fact of the matter is that we're in a situation where we have made enormous progress. >> reporter: and as we look ahead to the midterm elections the president's approval rating in dangerous position for any party that's in power, the democrats want to keep those after the midterms. the president tried to make this midterm elections a choice for voters rather than a referendum on him and the democratic party. he kept asking where are republicans? what do they stand for? what does mitch mcconnell stand for? a preview of what's to come in the year ahead for this president. >> ali, on one hand you have president biden saying democrats need to tell the story of their accomplishments but hours later they get handed dual dee gets that everybody knew were coming. is there a disconnect there? >> reporter: chris, the disconnect didn't even come hours later, it came in some ways as the president was giving his press conference yesterday because several of us up here on the hill ended up having to listen to president biden in one ear and then an address from senator joe manchin on the senate floor on voting rights at the exact same time. again, highlighting that disconnect that even as the president talked about the need to move forward on voting rights, you had senator joe manchin once again standing at the crossroads and ultimately voting with republicans not to change the senate rules in order for democrats to be able to pass that voting rights package that they've been pushing for so many months. that's where the senate stands at this juncture. having to figure out what the next step is on voting rights while also hearing from the president that he wants them to tout the things that they have been able to accomplish. that's going to look like talking more about the infrastructure package that passed, but also it means back to the drawing board on things like build back better. that larger climate and social spending package that once again manchin stood in the way of, now the conversation turns to what pieces of that they're effectively going to chunk up and be able to pass potentially as individual pieces of legislation or as a much smaller more targeted package. we know and manchin has been consistent on the things that he likes and doesn't like that were in build back better, so now it's back to the drawing board in terms of what he can actually pass, but certainly a defeat last night on voting rights as biden tries to turn the page and launch democrats into the midterms. >> so i want to get to both of those things, build back better and voting rights. let me start there. president biden said after those votes he was disappointed but not deterred, but in a practical sense what does that mean? what's the strategy going forward? what hasn't been done that suddenly might change minds? >> i think if you ask the white house oftentimes they point on voting rights specifically to some of the individual actions the president has taken in the past, executive actions that have done things like doubled the numbers of voting enforcement officers in departments of justice, but you're right, legislatively the path ahead is very uncertain. it's clear that that support is not there on the republican side and any support among democrats to change the filibuster rules and push ahead with voting rights legislation isn't there because of senator joe manchin and senator kyrsten sinema. so the question ahead is is there a possibility of breaking up and pulling out pieces of that, campaign finance, the end kind of things in that existing legislation that's not moving forward, they could get republican and all democratic support behind. we don't yet know if that's going to happen. but the president is not backing away from that. he is doubling down on that, they are calling it an existential threat to democracy if these steps don't go forward. he's going to need a lot more support not only from republicans but from his own party if any of that is to happen. >> ashley, it was also notable that the president talked about breaking down some of his big promises, the build back better into smaller pieces. does the rest of the democratic party, though, agree with that approach? essentially what may come down to getting something is better than nothing. >> well, that in some ways also makes things harder, you know, they're trying to has build back better through a process known as reconciliation as you start breaking things down, there then become open questions with the parliamentarian about what you can and cannot get through using that process. another thing related to breaking things down, president biden was asked pretty directly what happens to the child tax credit which is sort of his signature progressive move so far in this first year and he sort of admitted to the political reality that for now he's just going to have to jettison that. when you have a democratic party that's progressives, moderates and some who as yesterday voted with the republicans, no, not everyone is going to be happy with that strategy, but it is a strategy borne out of the tough political reality that this president is currently facing. >> senator heitkamp, to the point of political reality, we are in a very important election year. the president clearly was making an effort to tack back to the center, called himself capitalist multiple times, he went out of his way to put space, say, between himself and bernie sanders. i like the guy, but i'm not bernie sanders. what do you make of that in the context of where the democratic party is right now? >> i think it's part of the reset, but, you know, i think you have to separate the executive agenda now from the legislative agenda and i thought the most telling part of this press conference was when he said the people don't want a president who is also a senator. he's basically signaling i will work with you but i'm on my own track now. on voting rights, you're going to see a very much much more aggressive department of justice, you're going to see the lawsuits that mark ileus has initiated take front row and center, be talked about more. i think on build back better don't count out child tax credit. you are to remember that there are senators who are also going to negotiate it. michael bennet, this is his baby, there are many, many senators who really love the child credit. joe has said i will do the child credit it has to be means tested and not for everybody you say it's for. i think you will see build back better because reconciliation is not a prize that you should ever waste. so you're going to see the legislative agenda turning to build back better, what can we get done? it's got to be paid for in ten years because that's joe manchin's bottom line. and the president is going to become the president and ignore what happens on capitol hill. >> so it's very interesting what the senator just brought up, this whole idea of separating how he operated as a senator and he ran on it frankly, right, on people who can bring both sides together, but as somebody who is president and needs to steer the ship. so i guess my question is -- let me play first what he had to say about the republican side of the aisle. >> i did not anticipate that there would be such a stalwart effort to make sure that the most important thing was that president biden didn't get anything done. think about this. what are republicans for? what are they for? name me one thing they're for. >> so is the strategy let's push back more forcefully, no more mr. nice guy, no more spending lots of time getting people to come over and talk to me or going to the hill? what did you hear in terms of the context of this election year? >> that one moment you played was one of the most striking moments from the press conference for me. for him to say i didn't anticipate that level of push back, because candidate biden was asked about that again and again, it was essentially a part of his campaign that he could unite this country, he could based on his years of experience and relationships working in the senate be able to get republicans to work with him. i remember asking him about that in the december 2019 presidential debate and he doubled down on it. i can get this done. and the disconnect there right now is that he has not been able to get that done. we've seen that time and time again. so moving forward it sounds like if senator heitkamp says he will be sort of separating the executive agenda, spending more time not on capitol hill, negotiating directly with those members of congress, that's a way to kind of carry this forward based on what he didn't anticipate. but i think the surprising thing for a lot of us is that that's the other disconnect that the president was really admitting to and acknowledging publicly yesterday was that people see that, that gridlock that he said that he could break, it hasn't changed, and covid and the economy right now are the two chief things on everyone's minds out there. he is still very much trying to claw back successes on both of those, even for all the remarkable success the administration has made with the millions of people vaccinated, unemployment at an all time low, 6 million jobs back. people don't feel today their lives are remarkably better than they were a year ago and that's what the president has promised. so year one in it's still a bit of a disconnect. >> senator, we are not just out of time, we are over time, but i have to ask you this question. given all of that and knowing that the president intends to get out there and make his case, will democrats who are running for office want him to? >> you know, it doesn't matter because you're going to be a democrat, you're going to run as a democrat. joe biden's success and how he does in your state, how people feel about him, that's going to determine your political fortune. so you're going to do everything you can to make sure that joe biden's favorability in your state increase dramatically or you are not going to get reelected. >> senator heidi heitkamp, mike memory and ashley, thanks to all of you. also this morning russian and ukrainian troops remain locked in a standoff. president biden now predicting vladimir putin will ultimately send troops across the border, but he also raised some eyebrows with this remark about potential consequences for russia. >> russia will be held accountable if it invades, and it depends on what it does. it's one thing if it's a minor incursion and we end up having to fight about what to do and not do, et cetera, but if they actually do what they're capable of doing with the force amassed on the border it is going to be a disaster for russia. >> within an hour administration officials tried to walk that back, insisting that for the purposes of the u.s. response any action would be interpreted as a renewed invasion. the vice president doubled down on that this morning. >> if vladimir putin and russia takes aggressive action, it will be met with a cost that will be severe. >> but the damage may be done. nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel is in kiev. he has more on how the comments are being received in that part of the world. >> reporter: the ukrainian government is clearly upset and rattled by president biden's comments and you can see it in their denials. you can see it in their emphatic insistence that nothing is wrong. you don't insist that nothing is wrong unless there is something wrong. the ukrainian president came out and said that he sees in differences between the u.s. and ukraine and that president biden's speech didn't change u.s. policy. the ukrainian foreign minister said that it's not important to look at the specific language that president biden was using and that u.s. policy remains unchanged. he insisted that there can be no difference between a small incursion or a large invasion, and that is really the heart of the matter here because president biden in his speech seemed to suggest -- strongly seemed to suggest, although it was clarified later by the white house -- that a small russian military incursion would elicit one response, potentially a lesser response, than a major russian invasion, which president biden said would trigger crippling economic sanctions. the ukrainian foreign minister said you can't have half-measures. so the ukrainian government is trying to say no problem here, but the more they say it, the more you realize that they are deeply concerned. chris? >> thanks so much, richard. joining me now ian bremmer, president and founder of the eurasia group and g zero media. let me let you pick up on what richard said and your interpretation of what you heard from the president. >> yeah, two things. first of all, it is very obvious that the americans have strong support from nato allies in how to respond to a russian invasion of ukraine, tanks in, air strikes, cyber and the overthrow of the ukrainian government. that would be met by severe and complete economic breakdown in relations between the americans, the europeans and russia and also a military response in terms of aggressive positioning of forces towards the russian border in the baltics, crimea and the rest. that is very different than how the americans would respond if, for example -- what's a limited incursion? i think this is the question people are trying to understand. putin has said on several occasions now that the ukrainian government is involved in acts of genocide against russian passport holders in occupied dunbas, this is a part of ukrainian territory but has declared itself independent. what if the russians were to roll tanks to defend those russian citizens? that would be a limited incursion. technically it would also be an invasion. i promise you the europeans are not on board with the americans on how strong they should respond to such an intervention, i'm also certain biden's response to putin would be very different than if you had thousands of people dead and a full on invasion. i understand that there are a lot of people that want to jump on the daylight between those two issues but the reality is that the reality is and the russians are also fully aware of this. >> all right. so we have secretary of state antony blinken in germany right now, he is meeting with our european counterparts ahead of the meeting with sergey lavrov tomorrow. how do -- if all in your opinion -- the president's comments impact those negotiations, influence those talks? >> i think they make it clear that we do not have the europeans where we'd like to along the constellation of potential outcomes. in particular the statements made by french president macron in the last 24 hours that basically seem to freelance, said that the eu needs to create their own security arrangements with the russians. that is a fundamentally unuseful thing for macron to say. i mean, of all of the missteps over the course of the last 24 hours on ukraine, macron has done far more damage to the western position than anything biden said in his press conference. now, some of that might be macron still has peek in the way he was treated with the aucus announcement that he wasn't aware: it's possible that biden hasn't managed that relationship as well as he needs to, but there is a problem and the german chancellor of course is a new german chancellor and he has expressed more flexibility in wanting to engage with the russians because of the importance of russian gas delivery to germany, and frankly, that's not exactly in the position that the americans would like them to be in. so i think we have to recognize that not only is ukraine not a first-order issue for the united states in terms of national security, it's not taiwan, it's not mexico, but also the europeans have a lot more at stake economically with the russians than the americans do, and this makes this more difficult to engage with them diplomatically. >> ian, it's always great to have you because you help us to understand the complexities of what's going on, even reminding us of things like the new german chancellor, this is a world without angela merkel. i'm sure we will talk more. up next, big blow to former president trump. the supreme court rejects his request to block hundreds of pages of documents from the january 6th committee. what we might be able to see and what it means big picture for this investigation. t means big t means big this investigationstination. uh, i-i'm actually just going to get an iced coffee. well, she may have a destination this one time, but usually -- no, i-i usually have a destination. yeah, but most of the time, her destination is freedom. nope, just the coffee shop. announcer: no matter why you ride, progressive has you covered with protection starting at $79 a year. voiceover: 'cause she's a biker... please don't follow me in. ♪ life can be a lot to handle. ♪ this magic moment ♪ but heinz knows there's plenty of magic in all that chaos. ♪ so different and so new ♪ ♪ was like any other... ♪ doesn't your family deserve the best? 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>> yes is the answer to that. quickly let me explain how we got here. so january 6th committee asked for these documents, biden says i'm not going to assert executive privilege, president trump sues, he loses in two lower courts, he goes to the supreme court and says, okay, i want to appeal these decisions against me, but in the meantime i want you, supreme court, to block these documents from being handed over until you decide whether to take my case. that's what the supreme court said no to yesterday, it's not going to block the handover, but this is clearly a sign that the supreme court also is not going to hear his appeal. it's going to be moot anyway. any future attempts by the president to go back to court and once again try to block archives are doomed to failure because of this. >> so do we know if these documents will be made public? >> well, the committee can make them public if it wants to. the archives will hand them over to the committee and the committee can make them public. >> we don't know the specifics of what's in every one of these documents, harry, but put them into the context of the overall investigation, what they bring to the table in terms of finding out the whole story about how we got to the point of insurrection. >> we have a pretty good idea, however, because when the committee first moved they laid out the categories and they had to give a legal justification for why they had a right to them. basically they're looking to -- they're pretty basic and looking to put together a whole narrative of a white house just buzzing with different plans to impede the election and stop the count and the different places that trump was trying to apply pressure to. where was he day by day, hour by hour, especially on the 6th, and then a very important point they gave five justifications, one was what was he told about the accuracy of the 2020 election? so does his press secretary's notes or his chief of staff notes indicate that somebody told him, do you know what, this is not a very strong claim? so they're trying to put together a whole picture of a president scheming in any way possible to try to apply pressure wherever pressure points might appear. >> let me ask you a highly nonlawyer question because a word that appeared over and over again as i was looking at the list was draft. this is what they were thinking about not necessarily what they ultimately decided to do. where do drafts fit into narrative? >> yeah, so do you know what, it's a total lawyerly question because the difference between draft and final has all kinds of implications for the presidential records act, whether you save it. draft is the all purpose little stamp that says we don't have to comply with the bigger important procedures. chris, can i make a quick note about the supreme court? >> sure. it's true what pete said about biden having made the decision and you might have thought that would be a weighty question for this supreme court, can biden trump, but they said that we don't have to decide it because the court of appeals said even if -- even under trump's arguments he still loses because these documents are really important. so it does set the stage for a future consideration of document by document. it doesn't just give a total you get everything. nevertheless, as pete says, these documents are going over the barn door is open and no one is going to revisit it. >> harry, pete, great to talk to both of you. thank you so much. up next, president biden's agenda in limbo one year after he was sworn in. so what do voters in a key swing state think and can democrats win them back? 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donald trump a year into his presidency biden is doing a tick better than trump, trump was under 40% approval at this point. you go back to barack obama and you can see obama was actually at 50% approval at this point, the numbers were heading down, but he was still at 50%. biden is in between where trump and obama were, of course, the problem there for biden and democrats, both trump and obama suffered very difficult midterm elections and biden is right within that range obviously where his two predecessors were. if they look closer at that 43% approval rating, you can break it down by race, white voters 60% plus disapprove of biden, one we are keeping an eye on, these are small samples but the hispanic vote we saw indications in the 2020 election it was a little bit more republican, less democratic than expected, there was a bit of a swing there, is that something that's going to continue into the 2022 midterms? obviously that's a number we will be keeping an eye on every poll we see this year. look at this, from two issues, the standpoint of two issues, you can track the trajectory of biden's presidency. number one obviously the economy, here is our polling, here is how biden has been faring as we've polled throughout his first year in office, his performance on the economy started out just over 50%, it ticked down all through 2021 and now it's just a 38% approval rating for joe biden's handling of the economy, but i think the one here, the one issue that sticks out even more, probably sticks out the most is this, chris. covid. biden's handling of covid, this was his strongest spot in polling when his presidency began, you can see in early 2021 nearly 70% approved of biden's handling of covid, you can see how that number came down through 2021 and now for the first time in our polling joe biden is under water almost ten points under water when it comes to his handling of the pandemic. look at that, from 69 to 44. he's lost 25 points on his covid approval rating over his first year in office. >> thank you so much for that, steve corny. dasha, here in luzerne county, pennsylvania, we look at poll numbers and we want to know why. what's going on particularly in those key counties. this is a blue dog democratic stronghold that turned red in 2016. what are voters there telling you? >> reporter: look, chris, to quote mr. james carville who famously said it's the economy, stupid, look, it really, really is here. voters that i talked to say the economy is the reason that democrats lost this county that was once a democratic stronghold, as you say, and right now it's these voters here who say they are being hit incredibly hard by inflation and by these supply chain issues. you can see that just about every corner you turn here in luzerne county. i'm at a locally-owned gas station where they tell me that gas prices at this station have gone up about 90 cents in the last year and this is a region that realize heavily on oil, on gas. a lot of trucking and just about every business here and those trucks are hard to keep on the road, hard to fill up at the tank because of the prices and people are also having a hard time finding basic parts. i have a gentleman down the road here who has a topsoil business, he can't get truck tires for his trucks even if he is willing to pay a higher price for them. and this is what voters say, democrats they feel like have left behind their blue collar base. i want you to hear from a gentleman named ed harry who is pretty representative of the shift that has happened in this county. he was a lifelong democrat, five decades of voting blue and he is now voting republican and take a listen to what he says about the biden administration now. >> for my house heating oil, double from last year. went from 400 and some dollars to almost $1,000. >> wow. >> and that's probably going to be once a month until march or april. i'm a vet. what happened in afghanistan bothers me to no end and i just think the whole economy is a mess and i have to blame that on joe. >> reporter: look, chris, we know there are so many different factors that have an impact on the economy, on inflation, on the supply chain, but the sitting president often takes the heat for the economy and that is certainly the case here, even voters i've talked to who did vote for joe biden are frustrated with what they see as a lack of the administration really talking to the people about these issues directly. i think right now price and politics have perhaps never been more intertwined, chris. >> dasha burns, thank you for that. that leads me to the chair of the democratic national committee jaime harrison. good to see. >> you good to see you. >> we just saw the poll numbers that steve talked about, 38% approving of the president's handling of the economy. look, credit where credit is due, low unemployment, higher wages, the president can talk about all those things, but if people keep going to the gas pump, keep going into the grocery store -- procter & gamble said in the last 24 hours we're going to raise prices again. people need laundry detergent. these are the luxuries. how do you go out and make your case to the american people when they just see their prices going up, up, up? >> two things, chris. one of the things is the president is really saved this economy. think about how things would be right now if we did not pass the american rescue plan. the reason why schools are open right now is because democrats under the leadership of joe biden put money back into those -- into those schools. without any republican support. same thing with many of our hospitals and our cities who desperately needed resources. we were able to stabilize the economy and even grow and add more jobs to the economy because of the investments made in the american rescue plan. but the president also said the other day that we've got to go out and sell these accomplishments. think about all of the things that we have been able to do. we know that covid is still the wet blanket that is really not only here in america, but all over the globe. it is really holding down us starting back and getting back to normalcy but this administration is doubling down on that and they're stressing the urgency for folks to get vaccinated and boosted. if more people can do that then we can get back to normal quicker. and then we will see all of the things that we enjoy and that feeling that we have that things are -- remember how we were going into the summer, a lot of people thought that we were getting back to normal but we still had a lot of americans who were not vaccinated, we saw the covid numbers increase. we need to do our part to get this economy back on track. >> but is that a message, mr. chairman, is that a message that resonates with people? i mean, is that going to work or do people look and say, the buck stops here? do people look at hospitals and say, well, the american rescue plan helped them or do they say i just see hospitals overwhelmed, doctors and nurses leaving the profession in record numbers? i mean, i'm trying to figure out how you make that case looking forward as opposed to looking back. here is what i've done. because you know human nature is what have you done for me lately? >> yeah, well, the democrats are continuing to do things for the american people. the components of the build back better agenda are just that. i mean, we know that right now for a lot of people to get back to work, a lot of women to get back to work, they have to tackle the issue of child care. well, guess what, in joe biden's proposal he has a provision about child care, giving families almost $10,000 back a year on the child care expenses. that's how you make people feel like things are getting better. >> so you think what he talked about which is this approach of putting it in chunks and maybe selling each chunk for lack of a better word individually may work? because it's easier to message that than something big and complicated? >> well, i think -- i think that may have to be the path that we go down, chris, because, you know, sometimes when you look at his big plans, there was a lot in that, and a lot of people just -- it was so big that so many people don't understand the great things that were in there to benefit them and their families and their community. so we need to break it up, make the republicans who don't have an agenda -- remember, chris, this is a party that we are fighting back against who didn't pass a platform in 2020. mcconnell and mccarthy have already said they don't have a policy platform for 2022. so they don't stand for anything, they don't believe in anything other than fear, fraud and fascism. we need to put on the floor every single day a vote on these big provisions that will help and impact the american people and relieve some of the pressure and the tensions that they have dealing with the impact of covid. >> jaime harrison, so much more i want to talk to you about. i hope you will come back again. thank you for taking the time this morning. coming up, the u.s. just saw its worst day for covid deaths so far this year. what a new cdc study just revealed about immunity from the virus. we will dig into this next. the the virus. when you switch to t-mobile and bring your own device, we'll pay off your phone up to $800. you can keep your phone. keep your number. we will dig into this next ed on the largest and fastest 5g network. plus, we give you $200 in facebook ads on us! so you can reach more customers, create more opportunities, and make this the best year for your business yet. visit your local t-mobile store today. subway's eat fresh refresh has so many new footlongs, here's how they line up. we got the new chicken & bacon ranch, new baja steak & jack, and the new baja chicken & bacon, aka "the smokeshow." save big. order through the app. save big. aleve-x. it's fast, powerful long-lasting relief with a revolutionary, rollerball design. because with the right pain reliever... life opens up. aleve it... and see what's possible. nyquil severe gives you powerful relief for your worst cold and flu symptoms, on sunday night and every night. nyquil severe. the nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy head, best sleep with a cold, medicine. >> vo: my car is my after-work decompression zone. ♪ music ♪ >> vo: so when my windshield broke... i found the experts at safelite autoglass. they have exclusive technology and service i can trust. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ i'm greg, i'm 68 years old. i do motivational speaking in addition to the substitute teaching. i honestly feel that that's my calling-- to give back to younger people. i think most adults will start realizing that they don't recall things as quickly as they used to or they don't remember things as vividly as they once did. i've been taking prevagen for about three years now. people say to me periodically, "man, you've got a memory like an elephant." it's really, really helped me tremendously. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. this morning and they're not good. yesterday 3,129 people died from coronavirus, the highest number of deaths so far this year. at the same time there's this new cdc study, it says both vaccination and prior infection help protect against the delta variant, the study points out vaccines still offer the best defense against severe illness, but when you look at prior infections, again, helpful, although this study does not apply to the current omicron surge which of course accounts for the majority of cases, more than 99% in the u.s. right now. let me bring in dr. ashish jha, dean of brown university school of public health. it's interesting, one of the things the president talked about yesterday is how fast this all moves, right, and it has moved quickly. so does this study because it largely deals with delta, give us any guidance about where we are right now? >> first of all, chris, thanks for having me back. the way i would look at it is it's one of many study that have looked at the question of does getting an infection give you immunity going forward? the question is it does, it clearly helps. one of the bigger questions has been is it as good as getting vaccinated and i think most of the evidence suggests that being infect and recovering is not as good as getting vaccinated and obviously you have all the down sides of getting infected. i look at this study in a broad picture and say, yes, infection induced immunity is helpful, not good enough, and we are seeing a lot of people with reinfections in omicron and that's not surprising giving how immune invasive omicron is. >> it also seems because -- well, lots of reasons. people are taking their foot off the gas pedal, boris johnson had his political scandal here, you see more schools lifting mask mandates, starbucks decided to suspend its vaccine requirement. are you concerned whether it's politics or exhaustion or court cases that all of that may be overriding this science, taking the foot off the pedal too soon? >> i would say a couple of things, first of all, i do think we're past the peak of the omicron surge, it does not mean we're done. 3,000 americans died yesterday, 800,000 infections still happening. we have several weeks to go before this infection -- before the infection numbers really get low. i wouldn't do anything differently right now, i would not stop masking right now. the question is what about after that? vaccines are a part of the long term strategy so we've got to keep our foot on the pedal on that. masking, absolutely, when infection numbers get low it's perfectly reasonable to remove mask mandates because we want to have them for surges but not all the time. therefore, i think that's a more reasonable policy, but vaccines and pushing them, that's going to be our long-term ticket out of this pandemic. >> so you just reiterated what we said yesterday was the worst day this year in terms of deaths, the last time we hit 3,000 was december 23rd. you mentioned, you know, we still have a few more weeks at least to this. how bad is it going to get? >> that's a great question and i'm worried, obviously, that we're going to see deaths continue to rise for probably another week or two because that's been pretty much the pattern. deaths always follow hospitalizations. hospitalizations look like they've peaked as well. i hope it's not going to get meaningfully larger than we are. again, much lower than what would have happened. given the infection numbers, thank god that omicron is a little bit less severe and we have a very vaccinated population, but 2,000, 3,000 deaths a day is still a lot of people -- a lot of people losing their lives, a lot of families being devastated. >> dr. jha, always great to see you. thank you so much. coming up, important information on that mysterious havana syndrome. the cia has a new but controversial assessment about whether a foreign power could be behind what made so many foreign diplomats sick. one of the reporters who broke the story joins us next. sick one of the rorepters who broke the story joins us next. ♪ life can be a lot to handle. ♪ this magic moment ♪ but heinz knows there's plenty of magic in all that chaos. ♪ so different and so new ♪ ♪ was like any other... ♪ hey lily, i need a new wireless plan for my business, but all my employees need something different. oh, we can help with that. okay, imagine this. your mover, rob, he's on the scene and needs a plan with a mobile hotspot. we cut to downtown, your sales rep lisa has to send some files, like asap! so basically i can pick the right plan for each employee. yeah i should've just led with that. with at&t business. you can pick the best plan for each employee and get the best deals on every smart phone. henry quellar of texas will fully cooperate in any investigation after reports the fbi raided his home wednesday. a spokesperson says agents were "conducting court-authorized law enforcement activity in the quint of cuellar's home." we'll bring you information as we get it. the mysterious and widespread medical symptoms known as havana syndrome. hundreds of u.s. officials in more than a dozen countries reported memory loss to nausea after hearing bizarre sounds. the cia believes the ill as soon as not the result of a sustained global campaign from a foreign enemy. a conclusion this morning is leaving a lot of people who got sick with it dissatisfied. nbc's ken dilanian broke this story. the cia says this is not a sustained global campaign from a hostile power but at the same time is not ruling out foreign involvement? >> that's exactly the right question, chris. you go right at the complexity and nuance here. i can remember being on set at 30 rock three years ago when u.s. believed russia was a top suspect in what they considered at the time to be attacks on u.s. personnel. in the three years since after an intensive intelligence investigation, they have found no evidence pointing to russia or any other foreign power having a hand in what they call anomalous health incidents and what's more, in about a thousand cases of people who have come forward with symptoms, in the vast majority of the cases, according to this new assessment, they have found other more plausible alternate non-nefarious explanations so they're left with a handful of cases, about two dozen, including many of the original cohort who suffered at the u.s. embassy in havana back in 2016 where they can't explain and they can't rule out foreign involvement but they wanted to dispel the idea that there was this massive campaign by a foreign power, russia or somebody else attacking americans around the globe, because it was having a real effect on the workforce. cia officers, chris, were declining to take overseas asignments because they were worried. when they made a call for symptoms, anybody who has an unexplained headache, vertigo, dizziness, come forward, that created an impression there were far more cases of this than there are. as you said, this is very controversial. the cia in many ways struck out on its own here with this assessment. the department of defense is not on board and many victims are challenging this and saying more investigation needs to happen. chris? 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