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flames and smoke tore through a high-rise building in the bronx. 19 dead. nine of them children. >> it was dad. i see kids crying for help, and at that point we couldn't do anything. >> you know about the surge in cases. but also right now in this country, about 138,000 people are in the hospital with covid. that's just short of the all-time high of 142,000, and right now medical professionals don't see an end in sight. >> i'm here to tell you we're tired. we're exhausted. and we're literally on the edge. >> and that is where we are going to start this morning. we are at a testing facility in los angeles, in chicago where classes have been cancelled for the fourth day in a row now. also a physician in chief, is with us. let's start in l.a. that city saying like so many other places, a record number of cases right now. but they're also seeing what's been called flurona. the flu and coronavirus. if you're sick, it's already tough to figure out if it's a cold, covid j something else. how are experts identifying this flurona, and what does it mean in terms of treatment? >> craig, well, we spoke with health experts here in los angeles. we know that last week there was a highly publicized case from a young boy who tested positive for both covid and the flu right here in west los angeles at this testing site. and public officials did tell us that this is something they have seen in the past. it was not the first case, and it was important for the doctor to tell us, or he wantedtous make sure we keep in mind that it's not a new disease. it's both having the flu and covid at the same time. when it comes to treatment, the doctor telling us they have not changed anything. they would give somebody the treatment they would for covid and also for the flu, but he did want to mention to us how important it is to keep in mind about the seriousness of having both diseases at the same time. this is what the doctor told us. >> you have to remember in the united states in an average year 45,000 people die from the flu. it's not like covid. even if omicron is milder, it's not as deadly as omicron, but it's still deadly. >> reporter: the way to know if someone has both viruses is to test for it. that's why it's difficult to know if people have flurona. it's just having both at the same time. it is not any type of new disease or new virus. that's what the doctor wanted to make sure that we communicate to the public. and i should say that yesterday l.a. county also had the highest number of daily infections with more than 45,000. >> all right. at a testing site in los angeles there. i want to bring into the conversation surgeon dr. susana hills. dr. hills, thank you for your time this morning. since the start of this pandemic, there's been a lot of concern about the convergence of the flu and covid according to the cdc, the flu has accounted for up to 52,000 deaths a year between 2010 and 2022. how concerned are you about this now? this convergence of the flu and covid? >> yeah. craig, it's something we see all the time in our pediatric population. kids testing positive for more than one virus at the same time. so it's not surprising. and i agree with exactly what was just said in your earlier report, that we don't necessarily expect more severe illness with testing positive for two viruses. but, again, it's certainly twice as much chance for one of those viruses or both together to have a severe impact. so, again, not uncommon. not surprising. we see it all the time in kids getting positive for two viruses. we'll just have to see how this pans out with the omicron variant in particular. >> meghan fitzgerald, let me come to you in the windy city. chicago public schools out again today as the teachers union and mayor lightfoot continue to fight over the safety of in-person learning. any sign of progress in the conversations? >> reporter: progress, yes, but any indication of when the students will get back into the classroom, no. earlier today we heard from the president of the chicago teacher's union who says that he has not gotten what he needs to be able to go back to his members to reach an agreement here. he went onto call the mayor relentlessly stupid and relentlessly stubborn. a lot of frustration. the teachers union says look, we want better metrics in place to understand when schools aren't safe to then trigger online learning. they want more testing. they want something called opt out testing which means every student would be tested unless their parents opted them out of that. the mayor says that's not happening. i want you to listen to what both sides have to say. >> we are working diligently every single day at the bargaining table to narrow the differences and get a deal done. >> we're going to have to come to some agreement. we're going to have to say yes to some things, and she's going to have to say yes to some things. so far she has refused to say yes to some things. >> now, the mayor has agreed to some of the things the union wants. specifically more masks. more durable, stronger masks like the kn95 mask. she agrees there needs to be more testing but the biggest bone of contention is teachers respect willing to go back to school until january 18th when they suspect the surge will subside. the mayor says that's a nonstarter. she wants teachers and students back in the classroom immediately. she calls this an illegal walkout and says the teachers and the teacher's union is abandoning student here's, but here we are. fourth day classes have been cancelled going into the second week of the negotiations, craig. >> and to be clear, there's no remote learning happening there in chicago either. right? >> yeah. you're right. there's no remote learning. classes have literally been cancelled. >> how do the teachers justify that part of it? even if you're not willing to go into a classroom, why not be willing to teach from your own home, i guess? what's the risk there? >> yeah. you know, it's a good question. there's a lot of confusion. why isn't it as simple as just online learning? well, we're understanding that the students don't have what they need to be able to do that specifically laptops. that's something not doled out to every student. that's why there's this back and forth and this rush to try and get to an agreement so these students can start learning again. >> meghan fitzgerald for us there in chicago. meghan, thank you for your reporting. doctor salazar, you told your local newspaper in connecticut that this is, quote, truly a pandemic proportion of children that we had not seen before. doctor, what's changed? >> yeah. craig, thanks for inviting me this morning. it is correct. we've seen over the past couple of weeks the greatest number of children infected with covid-19. the american academy of pediatrics put a number out the last week in december, about 325,000 children were diagnosed with covid-19. in connecticut we have seen a significant increase in the number of kids that are infected. some of them have ended up in the hospital. we saw last week we had 17 kids here at connecticut childrens in hartford. things have changed. now, i want to make sure we tell this to parents. you know, again, we don't want them to panic. this is a flu-like illness. some kids end up in the hospital. but fortunately, kids for the most part are doing okay. now, parents can help by getting their kids vaccinated. 25% of 5 to 11-year-olds are vaccinated. that means 75% are not in that age group, and about 75% of the 12 to 16-year-olds, that means 25% are not. we want to really change the dynamic for this pandemic. be not afraid. be responsible. get your kids vaccinated. and i think we'll begin to turn this around. >> doctor, omicron also appears to be causing a harsh barking cough known as croup among the children younger than five. experts say it's most likely because it appears omicron tends to settle higher up in the respiratory tract rather than deeper in the lungs. are you seeing that in the children that you are treating as well? >> yeah. that's exactly right. this is different than we had seen even in kids in the older kids in the early pandemic with delta and the other variants. this one resembles more like influenza, with an upper respiratory infection, a croupy cough. sometimes fever alone. it's a little different. it's something that pediatricians are used to seeing with the common respiratory virus. more kids are being infected. hang in there. i know this is tough for the parents and families. we'll get through this. common sense, work with your pediatricians. get vaccinated. get tested when appropriate. and then just keep moving forward with your lives. that's what's important at this point. >> dr. hills we mentioned the number at the start of the program. around 138,000 people hospitalized with covid-19. that's according to our count at nbc news. the pandemic high about 142,000. how are the folks there who work in your hospital holding up? >> it's incredibly challenging, as you might imagine. we're having staffing shortages. over the weekend 40 hospitals across the state of new york were ordered to stop elective surgeries. and that's in an effort to preserve beds, and it's not just new york. oregon over the weekend, too, issued guidance on how to allocate services and resources should they be in a position where they need to, because they had only about 42 icu beds available in the state. so here in new york and now in other places across the country, we're really feeling the crunch of not only staffing shortages but the critical bed shortages as well. >> the folks who are in the hospital, percentage, if you had to guess, what would you say are the percentage unvaccinate who had are hospitalized? >> yes. so clearly we know that the folks who are here for covid, the vast majority, i would say over 80%, overall, they're unvaccinated. and then we're seeing about 50% of folks in the hospital in general being unvaccinated. but a large proportion are people not here with covid symptoms necessarily. but those here with covid symptoms, certainly those in the icu, a vast majority are unvaccinated. >> dr. hills, thank you. dr. salazar, a thanks to you. this morning a key diplomatic meeting between u.s. and russian officials over russia's aggression toward ukraine. can the biden administration convince russia not to invade? we're going to have the latest on those talks. first, though, an absolutely unbelievable tragedy over the weekend in the bronx. 19 people killed in the deadliest fire new york city has seen in three decades. we're going to get the latest on the investigation. how the survivors are coping. here's one father who doesn't know what to tell his kids. >> tomorrow is a school day. and they ask me why they are -- they're going to ask me tomorrow. they go together and come back together. where their friend. what am i going to tell them tomorrow? 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>> hi there, craig. yes, the mayor is expected here in a short time. the shock is really sinking in here. we just spoke with a couple of survivors a short time ago here at the scene. and they described just a frightening escape from the burning building. as you can see behind me, many of the broken windows still evident here as firefighters desperately try to rescue many of the residents here. 120 units in this building. about 200 firefighters here at the scene. and you know, something that's focussed of this investigation, craig, is the door to the second and third floor part, where this fire started. it was left open as the residents got out and left ajar. in any case, it did not close and authorities say that helped the thick black smoke go throughout this building. victims were found on each floor. again, we spoke with several survivors this morning. take a listen at what one of them had to say. >> the smoke was so terrible. i called 9-1-1 three times. i couldn't get to the door. we could have died in there with the smoke. it was really, really bad. it was really bad. i dropped on my knees and started praying and asked god, please help us. help us. >> and again, craig, so much emotion here from those survivors. and as they remember, there's nine children that have lost their lives. the death toll, again, still at 19, but as you mentioned, the mayor says it could likely rise. several people still in critical condition, and there are many displaced residents here that are now staying at local hotels and really wondering where this investigation will go. again, authorities believe a faulty space heater was to blame, and the issue exacerbated by the smoke going throughout the building because the door to that main apartment was left open. >> just an unthinkable tragedy. gabe gutierrez there for us outside the apartment building. an update expected an hour from now on that story. right now, though, one of president biden's top diplomats is meeting behind closed doors with russian officials. they're talking about the growing tensions. we'll have the latest on the talks and what the biden administration wants to get out of those talks, next. t t of those talks, next jerry, you gotta see this. seen it. trust me, after 15 walks... gets a little old. i really should be retired by now. wish i'd invested when i had the chance... to the moon! ugh. unbelievable. looking to get back in your type 2 diabetes zone? 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>> well, this is one of those scenarios where the best case scenario is that you just agree to keep on talking rather than to have talks break down and the potential for some military escalation from the russian side. what's been interesting in watching in is both sides have been specific. russia specific in the unrealist demands about nato pulling back from eastern europe. the u.s. side serious about the consequences russia would face if they move further into ukraine, including export controls that prohibit the kind of technology that they need for military and technology sanctions. and u.s. foreshadowing they're willing to discuss military exercises or the placement of missiles in europe, but not the core issues of nato identity and where they deploy their own forces. there's a gap between the sides. the one thing the u.s. side is trying to do today is just try to determine is russia really serious about having diplomatic talks about european security, or as richard said, is this just a facade to make it look like they're reasonable and open to diplomacy, and then the russian side can pull out and say because our demands weren't met, we may need to take further military action in ukraine? so it's a very delicate balancing act. success would be further rounds of talks and frankly, continuing to talk instead of seeing the military escalation. >> ambassador, i'll pose that question to you. you know this region better than most. ben's question there, is russia serious, or is this all a bit of a farce, a bit of an exercise in futility? >> well, we may not find out today the russians have been talking extremely nastily and harshly about western positions. they've said that the west doesn't understand their point of view. that they're determined to get quick results. they want to see whether the -- whether the west is prepared to be at all serious in responding to their demands, and they've said somewhat threateningly. they said, you know, we want to know whether you'll show any flexibility or else things will get worse for your security. so the russians are definitely not doing a mr. nice guy routine here. and they may have ways of ratcheting up the pressure even if they don't invade. there are cyber attacks that are in there -- in their pocket. they have -- some russian commentators have talked about the possibility that you could have a kind of recognition of the separatist areas in ukraine or even annexation which would bring russian troops directly in larger numbers into ukraine. into the now occupied territories. so there are lots of ways in which this could be worse than the current situation, but without an immediate invasion. >> ambassador, in the simplest of terms for folks who might be watching or listening on serious xm satellite radio, explain to people why we should care about ukraine and what's happening in ukraine, and russian aggression toward ukraine. >> well, this is a sovereign country of 45 million people that -- whose standing has been recognized by all the other states of europe, and the russians are saying basically we don't want you to be a sovereign country anymore. they have said, you know, your status actually matters more to us than it does to you. this was another thing that the deputy foreign minister said last week. there is a kind of wild and crazy talk by russian officials these days, which is pretty disturbing, whatever you think about ukraine. it's the most ukraine is the focus right now, but an awful lot of other european countries are thinking, you know, if the russians act this way, how are they going to treat us? that's why interestingly you suddenly have the fins and the sweeds saying you know, we may need to join nato, too. so for most european countries, and for the united states, ukraine is an important country in itself. but also an indication of the way in which the russians intend to act toward others. >> there are multiple officials told nbc news on friday that if the talks go well, and russia agrees to deescalate, the united states would be open to changes to military posture, including size, scale, scope, and location of exercises. rotational deployments to the region, notifying russians in advance of ship visits and bomber flights. and missile systems and nuclear capabilities in the region as well. again, this is, of course, if the talks go well and russia agrees to its own measures. then if you were advising this administration, is that something you would advise us to do? >> yeah. i think if you look at those measures, what they don't get at is the capacity of nato to make its own decisions about what it's doing and where it's doing it. these are really kind of cold war era arms control type transparency measures where you're just much clearer with the russians about what you're doing when you're undertaking exercises, more military to military channels established. it's the kind of thing that's meant to build trust and transparency. it's not meant to get at some of the fundamental questions about whether ukraine gets to determine its own future, and whether nato gets to determine where it deploys forces. i think the risk here, again, is that the russians are just using these talks to be let down. that the russians will want to walk away from the table and say the americans, nato, they weren't serious about any of our demands, any of the things we wanted to talk about, so we're going to have to take further action in ukraine. the other thing that they could do, again, is instead of that full scale invasion, they do something like annex the eastern parts of ukraine that they currently occupy. so for the united states, what's complicated here is we don't want the conflict in ukraine. joe biden does not want there to be an escalation in further war inside of europe. with all the different elements of a complicated geopolitical circumstance around the world, never mind the issues at home. at the same time, we can't afford to sacrifice the principle that you cannot invade and annex part of the other country and undermine all of european security. it's finding threading the needle so you can continue diplomatic process, try to create transparency between the u.s. and russian side. one of the benefits of this negotiating team is the russian has spent many hours on the american side of the delegation and the iran talks. you want to try to create some predictability and i do dye log between the u.s. and russia to take place on the military buildup. vladimir putin has not shown any interest in wanting to have a predictable and transparent relationship with the united states. he's ultimately the one who is going to make this decision. that's why the most important message that the u.s. is probably delivering today is the consequences that russia will face if they go further into ukraine. it's whether that's a deterrent that's going to matter more than what they're putting on the table in terms of transparency and military exercises. if putin is convinced that those consequences make it not worthwhile for him to go further into ukraine, then perhaps you get the kind of time you want for diplomacy. if he's not, we could be looking at another escalation as we've seen of vladimir putin provoking the west and trying to undermine our interests. >> a big thanks to both of you. enjoyed our conversation this morning. president biden is going to head to georgia tomorrow for what the white house is says is a major speech on voting rights. activists warn don't come without a plan. and turning to remote learning. has it gotten any easier for our children? 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>> well, there has really been a sense and acknowledgment inside the biden white house that time is running out to take action. so we've seen top officials here met meeting with civil rights activists and voices around the country to try to engage with them before tomorrow's speech. and an acknowledgment that they have to do something more. there's been a lot of criticism from the progressive left on the administration both aimed at the president and vice president to do more. what we expect is that the president and vice president who will both be speaking, and they chose to go to atlanta in part because of the civil rights history there, in part because that state gave democrats the senate majority which was the only way they can even be engaged in this in a legislative way. and because of all the work that is being done to both enroll voters and the battle over voter access. it really seems like the perfect place to have this argument. but what can be done specifically? so that is a big question. because of the legislative hurdles. we know the president has said he would be willing to see a change in senate rules related to voting rights. that is still something he doesn't have direct control over. we've also talked in the past about how the president has said this is about a soul of the nation moment, that this is something so essential to not only his presidency but the values that he believes his presidency should stand for. but concrete and specific, that's where it gets more difficult. we expect that the president will try to lay out a path forward. we expect the vice president will try to make that case as well. but there's real frustration on the part of especially people who have been kind of in the ground game of voter access. feeling like there has not been enough done personally by the president and vice president to advance this. and that's where this gets difficult. they have changed up the schedule, putting the president's own build back better agenda on the back burner and saying they're going to try to move this forward with the help of leader schumer and the senate before they even try to get that signature piece of legislation. these are big, big challenges for the biden white house. >> yeah. leigh ann, republicans on the hill, no desire to change voting laws on the federal level. yet, there seems to be this fresh determination among democrats to take action. any new developments on the legislative front? >> well, craig, there's nothing new right now. and that is because democrats are telling me that they are going to wait until after president biden's speech tomorrow night in georgia to lay out any sort of plan to the agenda in order to take up this legislation. generally speaking, taking a step back here, we know what the democrats want to do. leader schumer has outlined multiple times over the past week or so that he is going to put up once again the voting rights legislation that all 50 democrats support, but it's stuck, because they don't have the support of any republican and, of course, they need 60 members. one they put that up and once republicans block it like they are expected to do, that is when democrats have a real question. leader schumer has said that he is going to put up a debate on changing the senate rules. getting rid, perhaps of the 60 vote threshold in order to pass voting rights legislation. but the problem is, still, senator joe manchin, senator kyrsten sinema. they have not shown any direct indication that they are going to go along with that associations and discussions among democrats and their colleagues have been john going for weeks and months. we know those are going to continue this week. leader schumer put forward a self-imposed deadline of martin luther king junior day. that's monday. and there's no clarity on if they're going to be able to accomplish what they set out to do. >> leigh ann caldwell from her perch there on capitol hill. and kelly o'donnell from hers there at the people's house. ladies, thank you both. children across this country are back to logging on for remote classes. parents and those kids feeling a bit of a since of deja vu. how they're cope, our kids, next. >> it definitely creates anxiety. it feels like the same as it was last year. that sort of uncertainty. you don't know what next week is going to hold anymore. g to hold. i'm always up for what's next, even with higher stroke risk due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. so if there's a better treatment than warfarin i'll go after that. eliquis. eliquis reduces stroke risk better than warfarin and has less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis has both. don't stop taking eliquis without talking to your doctor as this may increase your risk of stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. while taking, you may bruise more easily or take longer for bleeding to stop. get help right away for unexpected bleeding, or unusual bruising. it may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. the number one cardiologist-prescribed blood thinner. ask your doctor about eliquis. dry eye symptoms driving you crazy? 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