sacred place democracy was attacked. >> one year later the president attempts to rally a nation. >> i will stand in this breach. i will defend this nation. i will allow no one to place a dagger at the throat of democracy. >> tonight what history will record, a full year since donald trump's failed coup. the fight to stop the slow motion insurrection in the states. what happens next in a country where one of the two major political parties is abandoning democracy. >> we're ashamed of nothing. >> seize the day. >> we are proud of the work we did on january 6th. >> special edition of "all in" starts right now. >> good evening. i'm chris hayes. today is january 6th, 2022, the one-year anniversary of a violent mob storming the u.s. capitol in a deadly insurrection aimed at disrupting the peaceful transfer of power for really the first time in this country's history. on this date january 6th has taken on the sense of power and resonance in the cultural imagination in a way few dates do. it is probably the most infamous date in this country's history since september 11th. today we saw on full display the battle over the meaning of this date. because right now we do not know what january 6th will mean generations down the line. you know, as you travel across the world, you encounter lots of places named after dates. usually marking the occasion of a revolution or a military victory or a hard won battle for independence. that's the case of the city in argentina where the neighborhood in cuba both of which celebrate their nation's independence. or 26th july street in downtown cairo celebrating the revolution that overthrew the monarchy in that country. years from now we could see something similar celebrating january 6th. there could be plazas dedicated to the insurrectionists all over the country. sounds preposterous now but in the aftermath of the civil war it probably sounded preposterous there would be an avenue named after confederate general robert e. lee in brooklyn, new york. general e. lee avenue exists as such to this day. so right now in this very moment there is a fight over how to signify what this date today will mean in our country's collective memory. earlier today president joe biden offered his vision of january 6th as something of a historical inflection point. >> so now let's step up, write the next chapter in american history, where january 6th marks not the end of democracy but the beginning of a renaissance of liberty and fair play. i did not seek this fight brought to this capitol one year ago today. but i will not shrink from it either. i will stand in this breach. i will defend this nation. i will allow no one to place a dagger at the throat of democracy. >> now, probably goes without saying i believe that biden's position is the correct one here. one year ago it appeared as though republicans agreed. republican leadership in both the house and senate condemned the violence even as a majority of house republicans then after the violence went into the chamber to vote to abet the coup voting to refuse to certify the results of the election. but today one year later the response from congressional republicans has been overwhelmingly silence. exemplified starkly by this image of the only two republicans in the house chamber today. on the lower right side of your screen you'll see vice chair of the committee the insurrection congresswoman liz cheney of wyoming in red and to her right her father of all people former vice president dick cheney. that is it. just the two of them. the rest of the republican party it seems has yet to reach a consensus on how to frame the events of january 6th except to agree it really was not all that bad. florida's republican governor drone sanity is decried what he says is the unnecessary politicization of the 6th which of course was, well, an inherently political event perpetrated by one party in response to an electoral loss. >> i think it is going to end up being just a politicized charlie fox trot today. i don't expect anything good to come out of anything that pelosi and the gang are doing. i don't expect anything from the corporate press to be enlightening. i think it is going to be nauseating quite frankly. >> nauseating. fox news played what aboutism with the events of the day with one anchor publicly speculating why speaker of the house nancy pelosi only paid tribute to the police officers who lost their lives and not ashli babitt the insurrectionist killed by law enforcement as she tried to force her way through a door leading to the lobby of the house chamber. >> one went the other went and now it is done. one year later january 6th she recognized the police officers only not the fifth person who was also killed that day. we'll move on. >> yeah, let's move on. republican congressman tom reid of new york who as recently as last may called the insurrection an assault on our democracy put out a statement today saying january 6 was quote the darkest day of my congressional career then turned around and said he l is still supporting donald trump the man who incited the assaults in the first place. >> if president trump is the candidate representing the republican party i will support him because the republican party that i believe in that would put him in that position is the party that's going to see us into the future. >> and speaking of donald trump, the ex-president who fomented the insurrection who watched it unfold, refusing to intervene, indeed, by some accounts watching with excitement released a predictionably unhinged statement today in his own bid to cast the memory and significance of the date lying about the results of the 2020 election again predictably and implicitly endorsing the events of the 6th as a necessary political uprising which has been his position for a while. quote to watch biden speaking is very hurtful to many people. they are the ones who tried to stop the peaceful transfer with a rigged election. america is a laughing stock stock of the world and it's all because of the real insurrection which took place november 3rd. never forget the crime of the 2020 presidential election. never give up. what do you think that means? what do you think people hear when they hear that? what do you think he wants to do again? that position that the real insurrection was the democratic election in which a majority voted him out, that's a position that is shared by, well, articulated at least by trump's most aberrant, antisocial killers the vanguard of the maga movement and the movement to turn this into a day of celebratory occasion like florida republican republican matt gaetz who said he would celebrate their actions today. >> we're ashamed of nothing. >> seize the day. >> we are proud of the work we did on january 6th. >> that's right. >> to make legitimate arguments about election integrity and we'll make those today and walk the grounds patriotic americans walked from the white house to the capitol who had no intent of breaking the law or doing violence. >> that is where the republican party will try to take this. mark my words. and the meaning of january 6th, depends on what comes next. it is just not set. history doesn't decide. it gets made. gaetz will not be the only one pushing ashamed of nothing line. there is a contingent, faction in american life, minority faction but one that has essentially seized one of the two parties that want to turn today into a holiday. an occasion to celebrate. and they could win if everyone who believes in american democracy, who believes as i do the core vision of a multi racial, multi sectarian, self-governing people across all sorts of line of difference commanding our own fate together, collectively for ourselves, if all of those people across those lines of difference do not band together in the face of the people who refuse to be ashamed of their attack on that principle one year ago. then the recollection of this day could look very different in the future. congressman jamie raskin is a democrat from maryland, a member of the house select committee to investigate january 6th. he is the lead impeachment manager for the second trial of donald trump for his role in the insurrection. he has a new memoir about the insurrection and aftermath titled "unthinkable" and he joins me now. congressman, what do you see as the importance of shaping the understanding of this day one year after it happened, one year after you were there with your daughter and your son-in-law? >> well, it is everything. either people are going to understand that this is the expression of a basically fascistic movement that connects the highest reaches in the republican party and donald trump with violent fascistic street criminals or they don't understand that. but we are up against a serious, right wing authoritarian attack on american political democracy. so if we allow it to be swept under the rug or trivialized or minimized by people like matt gaetz then we are in very certain danger of opening the road to right wing authoritarianism to take over american government. >> i thought this image today of dick cheney and liz cheney in that chamber where they are the only two republicans who show up for the sort of commemoration and the moment of silence, i found that stark and worth a thousand words and unnerving. what do you see when you see that? >> well, first of all, there were no republicans in the chamber at all. it was just completely empty, devoid, not as usual just of ideas but devoid of physical presence over on their side of the aisle. and that was chilling. it was a little bit like a sci-fi movie. i was happy liz came and happy that she brought her dad because i've been trying to check out the history of coups around the world and, you know, in greece, argentina, chile, whatever. you can't find an example of an attempted coup and serious fascist push in society where progressives and liberal parties alone defeat facism. you need a coalition of liberals and the center right. and liz cheney has a high burden of hope placed on her as well as adam kinzinger and a handful of others who stood strong because they represent the possibility we will really have a broad coalition of constitutional patriots in america who are resisting what donald trump is trying to do to us. >> i should note kinzinger i think issued a statement saying he wanted to be there but could not today. would have been there if he could have. this question of accountability which haunts the spectrum, i think you have republicans basically en masse not willing to say anything. a few like i said in the vanguard who will celebrate it and go on steve bannon's podcast. but there's also the question of the -- a year later, i mean, who has really paid a price for this? other than hundreds of sort of foot soldiers who have been arrested? >> well, that's an important point to make. there are more than 700 prosecutions that are under way, which should give some comfort to people who feel like the department of justice isn't doing anything but also should be a very important message to donald trump's own followers that he is perfectly happy to send in these foot soldiers to go and essentially ruin their lives and put their families at risk and get people injured and killed. he wouldn't even come to our trial to defend his own conduct. he wouldn't even come and testify or turn anything over. he is a complete snowflake and he is willing to get other people killed and other people hurt including the people who have fallen into his cult. but he is not willing to stand up and to defend his own conduct. it is really disgraceful. >> in fact, you will note that while money has been taken from donors to pay for the president's legal defense and a few people in his inner circle, that larges has not extended to the hundreds and hundreds of people who essentially answered his call to storm the capitol on that day, which goes to your point. >> well, remember, he authorized his lawyers at the senate trial when we pressed them on it to denounce the violence and they said they thought it was disgusting and sickening and nobody would ever utter a positive word for the insurrectionists on their side of the aisle. and, you know, on their defense team. and of course trump now is saying that they greeted the police officers with hugs and kisses and it was basically like the second coming of mlk's march on washington. it is utterliy fraudulent and donald trump refuses to take a stand. you know, either he should denounce his lawyers for denouncing the insurrection or he should, you know, say that he is opposed to criminal violence. but he won't say that, because fascist political tendencies like his are always surrounded by violence and he has egged them on from the beginning. the oath keepers, the three percenters, the proud boys, the aryan nations, the militia groups, everybody who showed up that day he has egged on their violence. >> your book is excellent and i recommend it highly. i read it. we had a conversation about it. you are, you have suffered a tremendous personal loss in the death of your son a year ago, a little more than a year ago obviously living through this day and you remain a fairly hopeful person. what gives you hope as you stare down the barrel of this year, as you do the work on the january 6th select committee, because i think there is a temptation to seccumb to a kind of despair and doom watching just how malformed, how aberrant, how insidious the highest levels of one of our two parties has become. >> thank you for reading my book. that gives me some hope that people are reading my book in a serious way and engaging with it. my dad used to say when everything looks hopeless you're the hope. we don't have time for despair. and we don't have time for despondency, unfortunately. we have to help people who are going through that who have no other choice but we need everybody out here engaging in democracy this year. we need everybody. that's why mental health is such a critical issue. i look also to the past. i look to frederick douglass who was a great marylander and said power exceeds nothing without a demand. it never has and never will. i look to abraham lincoln who i quoted on january 6th a year ago on the floor who said that if doom and downfall ever come to america it will not come from monsters abroad. it will come from the monsters within who are here. by that he meant violent, white supremacy and vigilante violence. he talked about a mob attack on a newspaper editor, mr. lovejoy, who was killed, who was an abolitionist killed by a racist mob. but we also finally have to look, and most importantly, we've got to look, chris, to the future and to the young people. because this generation of young americans are beyond everything that donald trump wants to pump into the blood of america. they are beyond the poisons of racism and anti-semitism and misogyny. they are beyond all that. we just have to galvanize young people to get engaged which is why my whole campaign has been turned over to democracy summer a project sponsored by the d trip now to try to get young people involved integrally and passionately in this election year. we need all hands on deck. because the democratic party today is the democracy party. fdr used to call us the democracy and that is really who we are at this point. >> all right. congressman jamie raskin, the memoir "unthinkable" is out now. we talked about it at length on my podcast "why is this happening" out next week. you're also the subject of a new msnbc films documentary "love and the constitution" premiering here sunday, february 6th. congressman, thanks so much for your time tonight. >> thank you so much for having me, chris. our coverage of what happened a year ago is never truly ended. we cover it every single night, the ongoing assault on democracy. but it can be easier to forget the absolute horror and violence that 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personally responsible? >> are you praying for former president trump? >> the bible tells us that we shall know the truth and the truth shall make us free. we shall know the truth. well, here is the god's truth. about january 6th, 2021. close your eyes. go back to that day. what do you see? >> heave ho! heave ho! >> rioters rampaging. waving for the first time inside this capitol confederate flag that symbolized the cause to destroy america. what else do you see? a mob breaking windows, kicking in doors, breaching the capitol. the american flags on poles used as weapons, as spears. fire extinguisher being thrown at the heads of police officers. we saw it with our own eyes. rioters menaced these halls. threatening the life of the speaker of the house. literally erecting gallows to hang the vice president of the united states of america. >> can i speak to pelosi? yeah. we're coming. oh, mike pence? we're coming for you too you -- traitor. >> hang mike pence! [ chanting ] >> they've got the gallows set up outside the capitol building. it's time to start -- using them. >> start making a list with all those names down and we start hunting them down one by one! >> tear gas in the rotunda. know advised there are masks under your seats. please grab a seat and place it in your lap and be prepared to don your mask in the event -- >> when the order came to evacuate, i stayed behind for a while. until two republicans came up to me, one of them said you can't let them see you. i know these people. i can talk to these people. i can talk my way through these people. >> i remember every moment vividly. i viscerally feel the pounding on the gallery doors. >> we want trump! we want trump! >> it's too late for that. >> i hear the shot ringing out. i replay how i made plans to use my gas mask and my cane newly at my side from a five-week-old knee replacement surgery to fight back if attacked. and i remember not knowing if i would make it out of our seat of democracy alive or if our democracy itself would survive. >> 1776! >> you're afraid of antifa? well guess what? america showed up! >> knock, knock. we're here. >> i think cruz would want us to do this. >> until like many of you with many of you, luckily a former linebacker standing next to me, we had to contemplate actually defending the floor of the house of representatives. at that point i thought about what it meant. was i willing to die for my country? was i willing to die to make sure that democracy continues? and at that time, around this time last year, i said, yes. yes, i would. >> you're out numbered. there's a -- million of us out here. we are listening to trump. your boss. >> what the extremists who roamed these halls targeted was not only the lives of elected leaders. what they sought to degrade and destroy was not only a building, hallowed as it is. what they were assaulting were the institutions, the values, the ideals that generations of americans have marched, picketed, and shed blood to establish and defend. >> one year later the fight for democracy is far from over. i'll speak with a member of congress who lived through the horror of the 6th and is warning of what is to come, next. ♪ ♪ so you won't have a medicare in the world. ♪ ♪ plus, 90-day refills and same day delivery. larry? 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and so now every republican official, secretaries of state, united states senate candidates, have to promise to put trump above democracy itself. and many are doing it. they are now organizing the next coup in plain sight so this week we commemorate the fallen and thank everyone who came to democracy's defense across the country and in our great capital city. we know this was round one. we know authoritarians rarely give up. and we know they aren't doing their preparation for the next coup in hiding. they are doing it all in plain sight and they must be stopped. >> senator brian shotz standing where he was a year ago as rioters stormed the capitol warning american democracy is at stake and joining me live tonight. i talked to congressman raskin on the house side today and i'm curious your reaction today and whether there were a lot of republican senators around. >> republican senators are not around. now my good old friend and colleague johnny isaacson his funeral was today. 30 of the republican senators are in atlanta, georgia for that purpose. 20 are not. and i just think it is noteworthy that there was not a single, republican united states senator in the building. >> i thought as i was watching that speech that there was a chance to do something right afterwards which was the president was impeached a second time the first time in american history. the largest bipartisan vote for conviction but not the threshold. one of the punishments you could have dealt out had he been convicted in the senate was just barred from future office. i wonder if you think about that at all and how devin things might look in america had republicans understood that was their opportunity to sort of cauterize this wound? >> that could have been it. they could have used that opportunity to get rid of trump. they used him as an instrument to get their supreme court justices installed, get their tax cuts done and then they could have thrown him on the ash heap of history having achieved a bunch of right wing goals but basically saying we'll draw the line at democracy itself. they did not draw the line at democracy itself. they have tethered themselves to him. they had the opportunity. that offer was proffered. remember at that time mitch mcconnell was still in charge of the united states senate so those articles of impeachment were not going to be dealt with until we took the gavls several weeks later. that would have been their opportunity and i think looking back on it many of them probably wish they had gone through with it because they wouldn't have had to deal with him ever again. >> that night when everyone came back and reconvened for the vote, i remember thinking that the mood was bizarre. there was a kind of strange jocularity to it. i think people were processing what happened. ben sass did a monologue about how awesome it is to shovel your neighbor's driveway when it snows. i remember thinking it hadn't sunk in. i wonder a year later do you feel it has sunk into the body? >> no. i think it sunk in for many of us, ben sass, mitt romney and others but others are whistling past the grave yard. really dancing on the edge of overturning the american experiment. i don't understand their justification. on a human level, on a moral level. to stay in office in the united states senate it is the greatest on earth of my life professionally. but nothing is worth that. why be a united states senator if you are going to be a party to overturning democracy itself? a lot of these people ran for office. they ran for mayor or secretary of state or lieutenant governor or governor. you know, because they actually wanted to help their community. now they are sitting there all privately telling us this guy is insane. this guy is an autocrat. but if it's not me in office it's going to be someone even crazier and that is why i've come to the very sad conclusion the republican party is no longer devoted to american style democracy. individual republicans still remain committed to american style democracy but donald trump is the indisputable leader of the republican party. there is no way to win a primary without donald trump's endorsement. there is really no way to get his endorsement unless you promise to install him into power regardless of how the votes fall. >> you called out by name two people, two colleagues in that speech josh hawley and ted cruz both of whom led the effort on the senate side to volunteer to object to electors based on nothing, a very tortured, preposterous constitutional theory that states didn't have the -- they weren't allowed to determine their own election provisions. those two basically escaped accountability. like they aided and fomented the coup. josh hawley famously gave them the fist to the marchers that morning. and there was some pressure on them for a while but it seems to have gone away. >> i think you have described the situation accurately. they used their fancy educations, their big brains, and unlimited ambition to at least dance on the edge of if not go over the line and try to overturn the american experiment. these are people who ought to know better but they have been overcome with their ambition. and i think one of the failures of official washington, of pundit washington, of lobbyist washington, is that these guys are back in the fold. they are, you know, ted cruz talking about nord stream 2 and josh hawley treated as a thoughtful person on tech issues. they shouldn't be allowed in the door in terms of public policy if they are not willing to stipulate to the basic premise that whoever gets the most votes gets to take the office. >> that basic premise is really under assault and it's kind of the whole ball game at a certain level. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, chris. one year since the attack just ten months to the midterms. what needs to be done before november? ahead. >> as many of you know for me personally the path forward after january 6th has not been an easy one. it's been made more painful, however, by the fact that most of our colleagues on the other side of the aisle continue to accommodate that big lie that was the predicate for the attack on our country. to truly protect our democracy we need truth. truth is clear as this shard of broken glass that i have carried with me for the last 365 days, glass that i picked up from a broken window in the capitol in the aftermath of january 6th as a reminder, constant reminder in my pocket of the brutality of that day. we must have truth. we must have accountability. ac. 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how abbvie could help you save. it's often the case when people live through violent events or tragedies they come out on the other side with some sort of trauma. the nation right now is living through the enduring trauma of covid. when we look at the images of january it is hard not to feel some pain just as an observer hearing the screams of police under attack and the war crime from the mob creepily hunting down elected officials, watching a rioter get shot, killed trying to break into the house chamber. today members of congress were inside the capitol when it was happening and shared their very personal stories. they were moving and i just want to play a few for you. >> january 6th was my fourth day in office. january 6th was my first time ever to the house gallery. my team had to walk me there because i didn't know how to get through the capitol yet. i'll never forget the buzzing of the escape hoods, the fear when i couldn't open the packaging, the sound of the doors closing and being locked. introducing myself to my colleagues as we were hiding under the chairs. grabbing my hand. fashioning weapons out of stanchions and pens and my high heels. ready to take on the rioters who were banging on the doors behind us. climbing over chairs and under rails not sure where the rioters were and if we were going fast enough to escape them. >> i remember i was laying on the floor and i had just a very little bit of juice left in my cell phone. and i wanted to call my husband. i wanted to call stan. i was afraid to say i love you because it harkened back to september 11th and those last calls. so i just said, i'm all right. tell the kids, i'm all right. they are going to get us out of here. and i hung up the phone. >> i reflect on that day being trapped in the gallery. ultimately praying for all of our safety and peace in our nation. i also reflect on just how close, how close we were to losing it. to losing our democracy. those of us trapped in the gallery, we lived it. ducking, crawling, under, over railings, hands, knees, the sounds, the smells. we had a front row seat to what lies, hate, or plain old misinformation conjures. we went from victims to witnesses and today we are messengers. we reflect on the fact that january 6th was about so much more than an effort to break into a building. it was an effort to break down our institutions. >> later on this sober anniversary the question of what american democracy will be is very much an open one. democrats have ten months until the next election to save it. just two pills for all day pain relief. aleve it, and see what's possible. and also try alevex topical pain relief. for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable. that's when the amount of virus is so low it cannot be 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instigated and incited and those who called on them to do so held a dagger at the throat of america, at american democracy. >> a dagger at the throat of american democracy that president biden invoked at the capitol today is still right there. time is ticking. as election writer mark elias wrote this week, 10 months from the 2022 midterms, it is up to senate democrats to decide whether to advance these pro democracy laws alone or let republicans use the filibuster, if these two voting rights bills fail, our democracy will suffer and never recover. associate under president obama, cofounder of protect democracy, dedicated to fighting efforts to undermine democracy, and board chair of color of change, largest only racial justice organization, and author of the sum of us, what racism costs everyone and how we prosper together. let me start with you, heather, how are you thinking about these next 10 months? towards these midterms which take on these kind of existenial weight that no midterm election i think i ever encountered before i felt took on. >> it does, because it feels like because of the baked-in counter majoritarian weight and structure of the u.s. senate combined with the rules that republicans a the the state level have put into gerrymandering the house and to suppress the vote, we have a situation where we are looking at a question of do we have a pro democracy, not a democratic party, a pro democracy party, because we only have one of those in the two party system right now, sadly, that is doing everything to preserve the american experiment? so i agree with the idea that there are 10 months here that we have. and obviously, the thing that's standing in the way is an arcane senate rule that allows people who represent 41 million fewer people than the democratic party to hold up a set of democracy reforms that have nearly super majority support across the country. and so that is the silver bullet, it is filibuster reform. i was glad to see president biden finally come out and very, you know, full throatedly endorse it and here is where we are. >> yeah, and i will say, i mean, we've been around and around circles obviously on this for a very long time, you know, they're pushing again, there's questions about the conversations and sinema and manchin, you know, people who are closest effort will point out there has been tremendous progress already made in the number of senators who have come offering to the side of rules change for this purpose which is significant and you shouldn't lose sight of. in how are you thinking from your perch about these next 10 months in the context of preserving these bulwarks of democratic representation? >> well clearly, step one next week is the filibuster and we should understand a couple of core facts about it. first, we are the only advanced democracy in the world that now effectively has a super majority requirement for major legislation, second contrary to arguments the filibuster fosters, we did data analysis and for the past 30 years nearly 80% of bills blocked by the filibuster were bipartisan with the average of five senators from the other other party, congress would have been more bipartisan without the filibuster, third, think happening we would see wild swings without the filibuster, we went the first years of this nation without a fill bustinger and were the strongest country in earth, it's only the last five years america has lost and lastly, we have been here before, after the amendment guaranteeing african americans the right to vote, in 1890, republicans in the house passed the lodge act which would created a federal back stop to prevent attacks on democracy, it was filibustered by segregationists in the senate and died and with it, democracy died in the american south for the next 75 years. we cannot let that happen again. >> that is a great precedent to cite there, and i had sort of encountered that before but had forgotten about that specific 1890 fight over this and also, i think it's important heather, my perspective on this is in politics in general, in american politics and democratic struggle, there's no permanent victories, no permanent defeats, and i think it's important for people to understand that in this context because the work's got to continue. like, i mean this idea that people have to be engaged at the ground level, you know, in a state of kind of quasipermanent emergency is a hard one to hear, but i think the truth. >> no, it's absolutely true. i mean this, if you -- i feel like the black community understands this in a very visceral way, because the idea that we have this democracy that has always been so free and fair and it's been snatched away just in the past number of years, obviously not our truth. not the historical truth, not the truth we viscerally have lived and our parents and grandparents have lived, and so that sort of constant vigilance is so necessary. and if you zoom back, i think it's so important, and i wrote about this today in a medium post, i think it's so important to remember that the core logic of january 6th, and of the big lie is a racial one, right? it is the lie of the racial zero sum, president biden alluded to this in his speech today, this idea that there is only so much democracy to go around, that we are in this battle for supremacy, and so if people of color vote, that must be sort of stealing something that is rightfully the province of white people, like that's the core logic, from the university chicago study about the insurrectionists and what is their core ideology, what drove them? was it economic insecurity? one in four were business owners, right, it was this idea of the great replacement, the idea that as people of color gain more rights it will come at the expense of white people. now, obviously that idea is being sold, right, packaged and marketed, the same people who funded the stop the steal movement and were funding on going attacks on our democracy were the ones into win financially when republicans stay in power despite losing the majority of votes, because that is the economic pay off, for the moneyed elite that has been funding this racism as a way to drive their greed. and ultimately, we're at a real inflection point. do we understand that the racial zero sum is, has always been the achilles of our democracy, or not? >> ian bassen and heather mcgee, great to have you this night, rachel maddow show starts now, good evening rachel. >> thank you, much appreciated. joining us this hour the chief federal judge in court in washington dc made a ruling tonight concerning one of the defendants facing criminal charges for his alleged role in the january 6 attack on the u.s. capitol a year

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