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>> both dark-haired, both pretty girls. chillingly similar. >> a case that led to unheard of places. >> in the history of my department that's never happened. >> and then finally, far from the city, the truth, revealed on a quiet country road. >> he got out of the car and let out this scream. >> and an act of courage from a woman who refused to be a victim. >> and i won. the woman in the icu was barely alive. her jaw shattered in a dozen pieces. a once beautiful face unrecognizable after the brutal beating, the rape, the fire, the fall, the massive nearly fatal stroke. someone thought she'd be dead now. someone who fled into the night. someone killing women. and this one deep in a coma at the threshold of death is their only chance to catch him before he does it again. what happened here was spawned in a very dark corner of the human condition. by that terrifying flaw that forces us to admit, yes, virginia, there really is a bogey man. and against him were the only weapons they had. the power of one family. a determined cop. and one remarkable gift in the face of evil. here's where it began, three months before that scene in the icu. this is the nightclub district, denver, colorado. people here call this part of town lodo. short for lower downtown. very trendy. it was the night before april fool's day 2011. a warm spring evening in denver. girls' night out. an attractive 19-year-old named kenia monge was on her way to lodo to party with some girlfriends. >> she was very kind, friendly, outgoing. just a happy person. >> reporter: among the partiers, janet gomez, one of kenia's closest friends. she loved to have fun. >> yeah, she loved to have fun. >> reporter: underage fun. no trouble sneaking in. they charmed the bouncers, flashed fake i.d.s. kenia and her crew had a kind of unwritten safety rule. go together and leave together. look out for each other. but on this particular night things didn't go as planned. >> we had planned to meet at lavish. we went in there, and she wasn't in there. >> reporter: kenia had gotten a ride downtown with two other girls she didn't know very well. her plan was to meet janet and some other friends at lavish, but she didn't show up. >> i started texting her, and no response. and i called her three times. nothing. >> reporter: what janet didn't know is that kenia and the two other girls couldn't get into the club. the bouncers weren't buying their fake i.d. cards. so they went to another club nearby, even took a few pictures. but they didn't tell anyone they were there. >> and i sent her the last message about 11:30, and nothing. >> reporter: so when the clubs closed, janet headed home without kenia, who she assumed was with some other friends. >> i thought okay, they're probably just having fun, she'll call tomorrow. she would always call me in the morning. >> did you ever worry about her when she went out like that clubbing? >> no, she was very smart. >> she wouldn't take chances? >> no. >> no, because though she loved to party, kenia was known as the responsible one. reliable, ambitious, hard-working, not flaky at all. she had recently graduated from one of colorado's top high schools, was now considering careers in tv production or criminology. here she is directing a student film. all the more remarkable because just seven years earlier kenia didn't know more than a word or two of english. >> [ speaking spanish ]. >> reporter: and not a single person in denver. apart, that is, from her mother, maria, who had migrated from honduras a few years before. and when she and kenia were finally reunited -- >> it was the happy day in my life. when i held her, hold her, oh, my god, i was so happy. and we went home and telling her how much i miss her. and she said me too, mom, and now we are together, nothing going to separate us. >> reporter: by the time kenia came to colorado maria was married to tony lee and together they had two children. now kenia made three. >> i remember meeting her for the first time. the first words that she said to me were "thank you, daddy." i'll never forget that. and she hugged me. >> reporter: so connecting with the family took no time at all. >> i always thought about the song from the brady family, how we all came together and became a -- became a family. it was pretty much that was kind of how it worked out. and it clicked from day one. >> and there's all the girls there, all the wonderful women in my life. >> thank you, daddy. >> reporter: and for kenia's little sister, kimberly, it felt like the best thing that ever happened. >> tomorrow kenia makes one whole year in america. >> i thought she was going to be like the big sister everybody dreams of. it was even better than i imagined. >> better? >> mm-hmm. she was very loving and caring. i felt like she was my twin. we'd text each other every day. every morning, every night, throughout school. she would call me sometimes. she'd just want to say i love you. >> what did you have in common, the two of you. >> we liked to watch "csi" together. we liked to pick on my little brother together. >> of course. >> we liked to go shopping together. we liked to get the same outfits. >> reporter: but she was independent, too, was kenia. after high school she moved out to make it on her own. >> she always wanted to be something big. she always wanted to be a ceo of something. that was her goal in life, was to be somebody. >> ah! >> she came from having nothing to being somebody, and on one of her calendars it says like study, study, study, and then it says party on the last day. she was balancing her job, and she was balancing school, and she was balancing like her party life. >> reporter: but on the morning of april fools' day 2011 nothing was balanced. something was wrong. her friend janet gomez desperate to hear from kenia dove for her phone the moment it rang. but it wasn't from kenia. it was another girlfriend. >> she's like, are you with kenia? and i say no. i thought she was with you. and that's when it all started. >> reporter: started? oh, it had more than started for kenia monge. swallowed up by, well, whatever it was. some dark presence haunting the happy dipsy streets of lodo. coming up, kenia's family starts to worry. had that dark presence, whatever it might be, had it come for their own daughter? >> something was wrong. something was wrong. >> that's when i went into high alert. and long-lasting gain scent beads. try spring daydream, now part of our irresistible scent collection. ♪ ♪ at lowe's, with endless ways to organize what you need, you'll find some of the peace-of-mind you want. at prices you'll really want. start the year fresh at lowe's. shop lowe's store & save event now in-store and online. up at 2:00am again? tonight, try pure zzzs all night. unlike other sleep aids, our extended release melatonin helps you sleep longer. and longer. zzzquil pure zzzs all night. fall asleep. stay asleep. when you have xfinity, you have entertainment built in. which is kind of nice. ah, what is happening. binge-watching is in the bag, when you find all your apps, all in one place. find live sports faster just by using your voice... sports on now. touchdown irish! 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and i was like, no. he was like, have you talked to her? i was like, no. he was like, well, she's missing. i was like, shut up. like this isn't funny. tell me the truth. like where is she? and he was like, i'm being serious, you need to call your parents and tell them to call the police and file a missing person report. and then i called my mom. >> i started calling my sisters and my -- all the family. i said maybe it's a joke. and my sister got very worried. she said i don't think so it's a joke. >> when i got the call from my daughter kim and she said that she had not heard anything from her that day, that's when i went into high alert. >> reporter: but when tony called kenia's friends, they weren't exactly straight with him about their underage bar hopping the night before in those lodo nightclubs. >> it was very, very, very confusing because these girls were -- they were not telling me the truth about what they were doing and where they were at because they were covering their asses. >> reporter: so tony turned amateur detective and was finally able to confirm that kenia had spent the evening not with her close friends but with two other girls she barely knew. and -- >> she had left her purse, a phone and her i.d. and all that stuff in the bar. >> reporter: her stuff. kenia never went anywhere without it. especially her cell phone. and she certainly wouldn't just leave it with two people she hardly knew. >> something is really wrong. something is wrong. >> reporter: the night after kenia was last seen here in lodo, one of the girls she was drinking with showed up at the lees' house to drop off her belongings. kenia was happily dancing till about 1:00 in the morning she said with some guy and then she disappeared. they looked for her but couldn't find her, she said. and when the bar closed, they took her purse and cell phone and just kind of assumed that kenia would get home on her own somehow. >> reporter: i was looking through her text messages from the day before and these conversations she was having with her friends, hey, this is where we're going to hook up at. >> reporter: the phone showed that kenia suddenly stopped sending texts right after 11:00 p.m. but of course her phone kept receiving texts, practically all night. >> her boyfriend started texting her asking her, hey, where you at? you being good? hey, you're not contacting me. >> reporter: the next morning the texts continued from kenia's friends, all asking where was she. >> and then there was a dead area, and then the next text that came in was about 7:00 p.m. that night. >> reporter: but this one? this one jumped off the screen, was just plain weird. >> and the message said, "hey, this is travis, the guy in the creepy white van, smiley face. did you get home okay?" >> reporter: travis? who was travis? nobody in kenia's circle of friends and family had ever heard of anybody named travis. >> i kept calling him. i kept leaving these messages. >> reporter: no answer. no calls back. at this point the mysterious travis in the creepy white van was the only possible lead in their daughter's disappearance. they filed a missing persons report. but it was too soon, the police told them, to start an investigation. and so alone, they panicked. >> we were running around like chickens with our heads cut off and we didn't know what to do first. so we were just trying to figure out what have we got to do. >> reporter: and then, one terrifying day later, the mysterious travis finally returned tony's calls. and travis had some rather stunning news about kenia's whereabouts and just who she might be with. coming up, tony on a mission that would leave his wife paralyzed with fear. >> immediately i was so afraid. >> grabbed the 9-millimeter pistol. i packed it in my waist and i told her, i'm on my way to meet this guy. >> when "dateline" continues. ♪“i swear”♪ jaycee tried gain flings for the first time the other day... and forgot where she was. you can always spot a first time gain flings user. ♪“i swear”♪ jaycee tried gain flings for the first time the other day... and forgot where she was. you can always spot a first time gain flings user. 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>> that's what he said. that's the last he saw of her. and i got off the phone, and i thought to myself, that is the most fantastic story i've ever heard. not one word of what he told me made any sense to me. >> reporter: tony called the denver police to report all that but was told, remember, that the cops couldn't open an investigation because kenia hadn't been missing long enough. >> i'm pissed. i'm sitting there, i'm like i can't believe this. so i took matters into my own hands. i called travis back. and i said, travis, i've got some questions i want to ask you. tell me again where you last saw her at. and he says, well, i was at this conoco station. tell you what, why don't you meet me there? i told him i'm on my way. >> immediately i was so afraid. i said, oh, my god. >> i grabbed the 9-millimeter pistol. i packed it in my waist. and i told her, i'm on my way to meet this guy. maria was down on her hands and knees literally begging me, tony, don't do this, don't go down there, this is dangerous, this don't sound right. i told her i've got to go, they're not going to do anything. i've got to go. >> and i grabbed the phone and i called 911. >> reporter: tony roared over to that conoco station nerves on edge, gun close to hand, expecting what? a violent confrontation? a dangerous standoff? a weirdo? but it was none of those things. travis forbes was there, all right. patiently waiting. and he looked just fine. not scary at all. >> he was very thin. blond hair, blue eyes, good-looking guy. my first impression of him was, you know, looks decent enough guy, if you're going to have somebody pick up your kid, you know, and help them out, you know. >> seemed like a nice guy. >> yeah. >> reporter: and because maria called 911, the denver police were at the gas station, too. so the cops, not tony, did most of the talking with travis. >> he told them that same story that he told me on the phone, and it was very consistent. the story that he told them matched exactly. i told the officers, i said man, everything he's told me just don't sound right. it just don't sound right. >> reporter: it didn't sound right to the cops either. but they had nothing to hold travis on. he'd been cooperative, forthcoming, concerned for kenia. so they let him go. as the meeting wrapped up, travis sidled up to tony and started talking. >> he was crying, telling me, i promised i'd take care of her. i wish i could have followed through on what i'd done. i feel responsible for this. wish i could have done more. >> reporter: travis certainly seemed sincere. his story, though strange, was consistent. maybe he was telling the truth and that man kenia met at the gas station had abducted her. >> i stuck my hand out, said appreciate it. and we shook hands. and when i shook his hand, it was as if an earthquake was going on under his feet and it was only in my hand i could feel it. his arm wasn't shaking, his body wasn't shaking, there was no quivering, but i felt that shake. and i looked at him. and i knew i'd shaken the hand of the last person that had seen kenia alive. there was no doubt in my mind. i knew in that instant. >> and you believed as of that moment that she was dead? >> yes. >> coming up -- was he right? they were about to come across a disturbing clue. >> he was determined to erase something. >> everything. everything. >> when "dateline" continues. cs hello. here's what's happening. defense secretary lloyd austin said sunday he's tested positive for covid-19 and was experiencing mild symptoms while quarantining at home. austin is one of the highest ranking officials in the biden cabinet to test positive. harry reid will lie in state in the capitol rotunda this wednesday. the ceremony will be limited to invited guests. reid died at his home after battling pancreatic cancer. now back to "dateline." ♪♪ kenia monge was at a downtown denver nightclub with her friends one week ago. >> reporter: kenia monge's disappearance was big news in denver. >> she was last seen wearing a black skirt, black jacket, and red high-heeled shoes. >> reporter: kenia's family was frantic, desperately hoping she was still alive. >> i couldn't sleep. i'd pray. i'd get on my knees every day, god, please, bring kenia home. please. >> reporter: janet gomez and kenia's other close friends kept looking, hoping someone would come forward with a clue. >> we kept just putting flyers everywhere. we had to do it. you know, she was our friend. >> and got nowhere. >> you just have to be strong and just pray for the best. >> reporter: and now family and friends were not alone in the search for kenia. a veteran denver police detective named nash gurule started looking too. to say detective gurule is imposing is perhaps an understatement. looks more like a character from "the sopranos." but hates when children go missing. >> i wanted to find her. i wanted to give her family closure. i wanted to give the city of denver closure. i was determined to bring her home. i was determined to bring her home. >> reporter: carrie lombardi was the deputy d.a. assigned to the case. >> i felt a lot of pressure personally to give this family some closure. i couldn't stand the thought of having a child out there and not knowing if they were alive or where they were. and i really wanted to be able to give them that information. >> reporter: they focused first of course on the good samaritan, the guy who'd given kenia a ride, travis forbes. he was 31, they discovered, had a rap sheet for theft and drugs. but now he owned a small business in denver, baking and delivering gluten-free granola bars. he was renting a space at a local bakery, owned by monica poole. >> travis was energetic. he seemed friendly. wanted to have a business. he launched into granola bars, which i thought was a great idea. they didn't exist in the marketplace. not the way he was making them. >> reporter: travis could bake. but he wasn't the best businessman. he was often in debt, sometimes missed deliveries and deadlines. and one day he came to work, seemed a little frazzled, and told monica about his odd encounter the night before. >> he said i gave some girl a ride home and she's missing and she's gone. and i thought, wow, that's kind of strange. whatever. >> reporter: then a few days later monica's bakery was crawling with cops. >> when the police showed up, i thought, wow, that must be that missing girl. >> reporter: detectives looked around, even shot this video of the place. but they didn't find much. travis was there. so they took him downtown for questioning. >> travis, this is detective gurule. >> how's it going? travis. >> he's a talker. very, very charming. very manipulative. >> i never met her before then -- >> reporter: and talk travis did. reciting the very same story he told tony lee, about picking up a lost and distressed kenia downtown. then stopping for cigarettes at that gas station. where she met another man, who said he'd take her home. >> she put her arm through his arm. like while they were -- while they were sitting there smoking. and they spoke spanish, and they walked off. and that was it. that was the last -- that was it. then i went home. >> and that's the last you see of her? >> yes. >> reporter: travis was cool, calm, even contrite about leaving kenia with that strange fellow at the gas station. >> if she had made the choice to -- to go back home or to get in my van, i would have taken her home. i would not -- i mean, and if i had felt any sort of -- any sort of weirdness about her walking off with that guy, i would have done something. >> he was really worried about this whole, very about this missing girl. but we believe you. he didn't do anything. >> reporter: in fact there, was no evidence travis did anything wrong. he certainly wasn't a suspect. barely a person of interest. he even had an alibi for his whereabouts after he dropped off kenia. >> he said he'd gone to his girlfriend's house. at the time that we knew that she had disappeared. and then his girlfriend came in. but she supported his statement. >> yeah. >> reporter: of course they let him go. had to. but what about that mysterious man travis said he left kenia with at the gas station? >> we couldn't find him. he was gone. >> wow. >> we send out bulletins. we put it on the news. and we didn't get anybody to come forward and say, yeah, i know this guy. >> reporter: but d.a. lombardi did get a search warrant for travis' white cargo van, to see if it held any clues. and inside it reeked of bleach. >> to the point where when you spray something like on a ceiling, a roof, and you spray it so much it drips down, that's how much bleach he'd sprayed on this van. >> he was determined to erase something. >> everything. everything. so we're going through his van, we're taking off doors, we're vacuuming, we're crawling underneath it. >> reporter: the van for the most part was spotless. except for something odd that caught the cop's attention. >> we found some weeds underneath. we found some dirt. some dust. different things. >> hmm. what'd that tell you? >> he's been on a dirt road. at least that van has. >> reporter: so gurule and lombardi pored through travis' cell phone records to see where he was around the time of kenia's disappearance. and they noticed he made and received several calls from a rural area near a little place called keenesburg, about 40 miles northeast of denver. not exactly one of the stops along travis' granola bar delivery route. was he there for long? >> 3 1/2 hours. >> long enough to do something. potentially dispose of a body. >> absolutely. >> so what did you do about that? >> we sent probably 25 detectives up there, looking at fields, running the gulches, checking the ponds, talking to neighbors, see if they saw a white van. we were checking everything. >> but there was no sign. >> nothing. >> only the trail left by a cell phone? >> correct. >> reporter: but back at the bakery, another clue surfaced. on surveillance video it showed travis forbes doing a lot more than baking granola bars. coming up -- from surveillance video -- >> that seemed really strange. >> to the local news. >> we were all watching, and we lost it. >> when "dateline" continues. >>s and long-lasting gain scent beads. try spring daydream, now part of our irresistible scent collection. i just heard something amazing! one medication is approved to treat and prevent migraines. don't take if allergic to nurtec. the most common side effects were nausea, stomach pain, and indigestion. ask your doctor about nurtec today! the trouble started before kenia monge went missing. trouble at this denver bakery, that is. the one where travis forbes rented space to bake his granola bars. somebody was pilfering money from the bakery cash register. owner monica poole was at first puzzled by the discrepancy, then gradually became sure there was a thief in the shop. fortunately, monica had allowed for the possibility of that sort of thing when she had surveillance cameras installed around the shop. so by now, a couple of days after kenia disappeared, she went to check the tape. to see if that would tell her who took the cash. but for some strange reason the recorder was unplugged. >> i plugged it back in, and i wound it back to the place to see who had unplugged it. >> reporter: it was travis forbes. turning off the system. so monica rewound the tape a little farther. but if she expected to see travis stealing, she got a surprise. it looked like he had been scrubbing. >> so as he's coming into the office with these gloves on his hand, they're not just like little gloves like you wear when you're handling food. they're cleaning gloves. rubber, latex, you know, the kind that -- yellow. go all the way up to your elbows. i thought what in the world's he wearing those for? >> reporter: monica stopped the tape and called the cops. who took a good look at the whole security system and found this intriguing scene of travis, this time with his granola bar cooler. >> he actually unloads the cooler, puts it on a little cart, and it's taped shut with black duct tape. and puts it into the freezer in the bakery. and there's employees walking around. >> reporter: detective gurule consulted monica. >> the police asked me did he store the cooler in the freezer? and i said no. he never puts it in the freezer. it has granola bars in it. >> reporter: all that. the cleaning, the cooler moving, happened two nights after kenia went missing. so detective gurule checked with several of the bakery's employees to see what else travis was up to that evening. >> he burns some stuff in a barrel. we found that barrel down the alley at the other end of the parking lot. and monica poole told one of the detectives, hey, that's my grease barrel. what's it doing down there? >> reporter: travis claimed he was using it to burn some moldy marijuana. the barrel was sent to the crime lab. >> we ran that for dna. we ran that for fingerprints. >> reporter: but nothing turned up. if there were any clues in that barrel, they had been burned. travis forbes, despite all his suspicious behavior and his strange story, was still just a person of interest. >> people do weird things in their normal life. how do we know that he's just not a weird guy? >> reporter: and then a few days later gurule's investigation turned up more surveillance video, which seemed to tell a whole new story because there was kenia with another man entirely. this caught the two of them in the lobby of an apartment building near the club where kenia had been drinking. was she going up to his place? well, if she was, she didn't stay long because a few minutes later kenia showed up in yet another surveillance video, weaving somewhat unsteadily across the lobby of a nearby hotel. and the way kenia was acting caught the attention of d.a. kerri lombardi. >> i think that from all the surveillance she was very obviously intoxicated. it was scary. she was someone that you would look at and think this is a victim waiting to happen. >> reporter: this according to family and good friends was not like kenia. she didn't drink to excess. she would never run off with a strange guy and leave her purse and phone and keys behind. in fact, when tony saw this video, he was convinced. kenia wasn't drunk. something was done to her. >> i absolutely believe 100% that she was slipped a date rape drug because everything that she did in that club that night was against anything that she's ever done before. >> reporter: gurule tracked down the young man from the apartment lobby, and he admitted dancing with kenia at the club and showing her his loft. but she left right away, he said. the video confirmed it. he was cleared. so that left only two possible suspects -- the mysterious man at the gas station and travis forbes. >> i did not. >> reporter: and apparently, travis was feeling the heat. >> i've -- man. >> reporter: so out of the blue he decided to go public. >> you know, the truth is all we have. >> reporter: he went on camera with a denver tv station. >> i mean, it's been two weeks. nobody's heard from her. there's been no trace of her. like it's -- it's surreal. i don't even know what to think of it. >> since you're a person of interest, let me ask you this. did you do something with her? >> no. >> did you kidnap her? >> no. >> did you sexually assault her? >> i did not. >> did you murder her? >> i did not. no. no. and you know, having that on you, you know, having that energy on you is very stressful. >> reporter: detective gurule was watching this, of course. but he focused as much on travis' actions as his answers. >> he lied. it was in his demeanor. it was in his body language. it was -- it was all there. >> man. i'm sorry that i -- that i was indifferent. that i didn't think anything. i didn't think anything. i didn't think she was going to disappear. >> when the reporter asked him -- >> did you murder her? >> i did not. no. >> he says "no." >> reporter: then as the interview was wrapping up, travis, who seemed to remember every little detail that night, had trouble recalling one small but rather critical fact. >> um. what's her name? >> kenia. >> kenia. yeah. >> and we were all watching. and we lost it. that was the only name in town. and i wanted to go talk to him about that interview. that was another time when she got down on her hands and knees and begged me not to go. and this time i didn't go. >> reporter: so tony and his family waited. let the investigation run its course, hoping, praying that kenia would walk in the front door safe and sound. and travis forbes remained free. not even aware, quite possibly, of what the detective and the d.a. were up to. >> we had a lot of conversations, and we did a lot of warrants. you know, we were poring through phone records and, you know, they continued to interview people constantly. we just were waiting for the one thing, something we could arrest him with. >> reporter: but even if they could arrest travis, first they had to find him. because not long after that tv interview travis forbes disappeared. >> coming up -- travis is gone. >> i put out a teletype saying you find any bodies, give me a call. >> and then -- another surprise. >> my lieutenant said, grab your search warrant for his dna. so i hop a plane that night. >> when "dateline" continues. he was the bogey man. and that's what we called him. everybody was looking over their shoulders, looking who was behind them, looking who -- they were afraid of him. as long as he was on the street. >> reporter: the bogey man was travis forbes. the last person known to have seen kenia monge alive before she disappeared. the man whose strange behavior had ramped up detective gurule's suspicions even though the evidence did not warrant an arrest. but now weeks after kenia vanished, gurule had two problems. kenia wasn't the only one who was missing. so was travis. >> he was gone. i couldn't find him anywhere. i was scrambling to find him. i was checking news. i put out a teletype online for law enforcement saying, you know, you find any bodies, give me a call. >> this guy was that dangerous in your mind, that there could be just more -- >> i was calling everybody. i wanted to find out where he was. >> reporter: days passed, then a week. no sign of travis. detective gurule was now working the case almost 24/7. even his wife was involved. >> there was nights where i'd jump out of bed and it would scare her. i'd jump out of bed, grab the phone and she's like, did you hear the phone ring? i'd say i'm leaving myself a message because i need to do this. he she said i'd talk in my sleep about it, kenia's name or travis' name. she said you're dreaming about this. >> you're obsessed. >> tenacious. >> reporter: kenia's family wasn't sleeping much either. >> i thought that she might have been like kidnapped and like put in the basement and like they weren't letting her get any contact with anyone. i had dreams and things i still felt like i had that sister connection, that she was just still here somewhere needing my like -- needing me to come help her, just save her and just bring her back home. >> were you thinking about it all the time? >> yeah. it's hard going from talking to someone every day and then not being able to talk to them anymore. it like breaks your heart. >> reporter: kenia's father tony made himself a public fixture on local media. but privately, he conducted his own very lonely investigation. >> i went dumpster diving. i was looking at trash cans for her body. up and down the alleys, all over. >> and yet you couldn't tell maria. >> i couldn't tell her. i could not share what i was feeling because that early in would have removed the only thing that right now everybody had. and that one thing that everybody had was hope. i was hoping that she would pop up and say here i am. but as time went by and she wasn't contacting anybody and -- i knew it was bad. >> reporter: he also knew that the key to finding kenia was finding travis forbes. the denver police had no idea where travis was, whether he was in hiding here in town or had left the city, left the state, left the country. he was just gone. wasn't much they could do. he was a person of interest but not officially a suspect. and then two weeks later out of the blue detectives got a call from austin, texas. >> and my lieutenant walked into the office and said, okay. i said what? she said austin p.d. just called our fugitive unit. we might have him in austin, texas. i'm like, what? >> reporter: travis, it turned out, had borrowed a car from an old girlfriend in colorado. when he didn't return it, she went to the police and filed a report. which more often than not would have led nowhere at all. except a policeman in austin with a little time on his hands decided to check up on an out of state license plate he just happened to notice. and discovered first the report for the missing car and then travis forbes. >> so my lieutenant said, grab your search warrant for his dna and head to texas. so i hop a plane that night. >> reporter: a few hours later gurule was face to face with travis forbes again. >> you know what? they sent me to texas because they think you're running to mexico. >> what would i do in mexico? >> he'd call me nash, i'd call him travis. it was similar to you and i just talking. i wasn't confrontational with him. if he asked me a question i'd give him an honest answer. one of the question he's asked is, what do you think of me? i said i think you're a creep. i think you're a jerk. i think you're a monster. >> how did he sfond that? >> he just looked at me and said, yeah, you're probably right. >> he said, am i a psychopath or a sociopath? and i was giving him what i thought he was. maybe he was testing me like i was testing him to see if i would give him an honest answer. and i would. >> you didn't fly all it way out here just to ask me some questions. >> well, actually, i did. did you do anything to her? >> no. >> did you hurt her? >> no. we never touched. >> at all? >> not even a hug. and i usually hug people. >> reporter: gurule questioned him for more than three hours. but travis stuck to his original story. >> so does she have sex with you? >> nash, i think at this point i -- my lawyer should be present. >> reporter: so travis refused to talk anymore. but he didn't have a choice about providing his dna. thanks to that warrant detective gurule brought from colorado. >> i'm going to swab the inside of your tongue. >> reporter: and though a stolen car charge seemed hardly enough to warrant extradition, it was in the end just enough. and a few weeks later travis was back in a colorado jail. >> i didn't want him in texas. i wanted him here. i wanted to have access to him. >> where you can continue the conversation. >> absolutely. >> reporter: but detective gurule was in for a big surprise. slippery guy that travis forbes. coming up -- the story moves on to another chapter. a different city. and another young woman. >> fort collins is a college town. and it has a lot of young women there. and they like to party. >> a suspected killer on the prowl and a grisly crime scene. >> we've kicked -- just kicked the door in and we're screaming for somebody. the upstairs is -- we're just calling for somebody to see if there's someone in the apartment. >> when "dateline" continues. you can always spot a first time gain flings user. ♪ ♪ at lowe's, with endless ways to organize what you need, you'll find some of the peace-of-mind you want. at prices you'll really want. start the year fresh at lowe's. shop lowe's store & save event now in-store and online. ♪ this is how we do it.. ♪ turns out, montell jordan knows how to do almost everything. and it turns out the general is a quality insurance company that's been saving people money for nearly 60 years. for a great low rate, and nearly 60 years of quality coverage, go with the general. every day in business brings something new. and nearly 60 years of quality coverage, so get the flexibility of the new mobile service designed for your small business. introducing comcast business mobile. you get the most reliable network with nationwide 5g included. and you can get unlimited data for just $30 per line per month when you get four lines or mix and match data options. available now for comcast business internet customers with no line-activation fees or term contract required. see if you can save by switching today. comcast business. powering possibilities. travis forbes was right where they wanted him, behind bars. they were holding him on suspicion of stealing a friend's car. not for kenya's disappearance. at least he was here in colorado. getting him back, how important was that to you? >> very important. i wanted to know where he was. >> and you wanted him in your town? >> yes. >> detective nashe was hoping to coax travis into telling what happened to 19-year-old kenya monae. by this time kenya had been missing several weeks. >> he was the person. we had eliminated pretty much everybody else. >> but just as detective was closing in on travis, as he geared up to pry out a confession, or at least evidence sufficient to lay a charge, he got a nasty little surprise. >> his friend dropped the charges on the stolen car. she was very adamant that he didn't do anything wrong. >> why did that happen? >> i would talk to her sometimes daily and she was his biggest supporter. >> she wouldn't believe that he was a dangerous guy? >> absolutely not. not the travis forbes she knows. there is no way that he did anything to kenya. >> but here was the problem. without the stolen car charge, there was no way to keep travis in jail. they had to let him go. deputy d.a. carey lombard ee was -- >> nervous. i was worried about what he would do. it was very stressful because i really wanted to be able to find her, and we really wanted to get some evidence that we could hold him on. >> at least vowed detective, they would not lose him, not again. >> we put surveillance on him for a couple days. and he went up to that area in keens burg. >> keens burg, that little town east of denver. >> he used his credit card and i had his bank records, so i saw that he swiped it at this gas station, so we went up there and got the surveillance tape and that's him trying to get gas. >> this was not travis's first trip to keenes burg. remember, he was tracked there soon after kenya disappeared. so what was he doing here? had he brought kenya out here? was there a body hidden somewhere on the high plains? >> deetives scoured the fields again and found nothing. and then he discovered travis was on the move again. this time he headed north 60 miles up the highway to his hometown. a team of under cover cops on his tail. >> we found out he was going to go to fort collins to stay with his dad. fort collins is a college town, and it has a lot of young women there, and they like to party. yeah, i was worried. >> it was now july 1st, exactly three months since kenya disappeared, and he had good reason to worry. >> our detectives are watching. he goes out to the bar district in fort collins and he's acting like a fool, jumping on people's cars, raising, just trying to get a lot of attention. >> so fort collins police, unaware that travis was the subject of a denver investigation, pulled him aside there in the bar district. had a little talk with him. nothing serious, no charges. just conversation. >> after they finished contact with him, our detectives go up and say, hey, we're watching him. he's a person of interest on our case. you might have heard of the case, explained the case to them. okay, okay, i'll let everybody know. >> denver police kept an eye on travis, hoping he might lead them to kenya's body. but he stayed at fort collins, crashed at his grandparents' case. so from an already overstretched police department, a decision. >> he was pretty much keeping a low profile. so we pull our surveillance. >> they couldn't know, of course, couldn't know what was coming. fourth of july, fireworks lit up the fort collins sky. and then early the next morning at an apartment complex, a fire of a different sort altogether. >> we kicked the door in, screaming for somebody upstairs. we're just calling for somebody to see if there is somebody in the apartment. >> oh, yes, there was someone in that building. and this much we can tell you. that someone was not travis forbes. 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>> she had been beaten severely and she didn't have any clothes on. >> lydia, as paramedics discovered, had also been raped. but that was president all that happened. >> once she got to the hospital it was a massive stroke. it was because of her injuries that she suffered the stroke. she was severely beaten. she was stomped. some of her injuries were indicative of a high-speed car crash. >> lydia was airlifted to an intensive hospital in denver. her sister esther got the news and rushed to the hospital. >> she was unrecognizable. when i first saw her, i couldn't believe it was her. i would look at her and nothing looked like her. and then she has a tattoo on her calf. i knew it was her. >> lydia's condition was critical, quite possibly even probably terminal. the doctors induced a coma and attempt to keepary her alive, stabilize her. >> her eyes were crushed in her eye sockets. her wrist was shattered. she had broken ribs, probably more than we even know. >> what's the emotion that comes with that? >> i didn't want to lose my sister. i wanted her in my life. what did we need to do to help her, to get her back to us? >> lydia was single, attractive, very popular. but now here she was raped and beaten, nearly burned to death in her own home. >> when somebody is beaten that severely, it just sounded very personal. so we thought for sure it was somebody that was in her inner circle that was close. it had to be somebody that she knew. >> so for the next two days, detective shackly combed fort collins checking with anybody who knew lydia. >> we had talked to ex-boy friends. we talked to who she dated. her family. crickets were chirping. >> crickets were chirping? >> crickets were chirping. it was who done it. everybody loved her. they couldn't imagine who would have done her. >> the fire scene left few clues. >> it was where the assault, sexual assault took place in her bedroom. it was so burned. could basically make out where the bed was. >> footprints, forensic evidence all up in smoke, or destroyed by something else discovered in the apartment. >> he did a really good job of cleaning up. he did quite the job with the bleach. >> bleach? the apartment still smelled of it despite all the smoke. but in spite of all that bleach, they did find microscopic evidence that the attacker left behind. his dna. >> and the majority of that dna was under lydia's fingernails, so no doubt she put up a fight. >> she was trying to defend herself. >> yeah. now lydia was continuing that fight, odds not good. >> she was not out of the woods is what the doctor kept telling us. every day i would ask him, are we out of the woods yet? no, we're not out of the woods yet, and out of the woods is life or death. the hardest thing is not knowing whether she was going to live or die, and if she was going to live, what kind of life was she going to have? >> and then three days after the attack, still no suspect, no leads, detective shackly heard about the man police talked to just a few days before lydia's attack. the one who was acting up in the fort collins bar district. and wasn't that the man that denver police had under surveillance? >> this possibly could be related. he's wanted for murder and he's in fort collins. i don't know, it could be a long shot, they may want to know about it. >> what did you think when you heard that? >> i thought, thank goodness, we have something we can maybe look into. >> so long shot, she figured, but detective shackly called detective gurule in denver. >> he used bleach. >> he was silent on the other end of the phone. he said, oh, my god. >> she said, what do you think? i think it's him. >> i get chills talking about it because it was quite the moment. >> who was travis forbes? a serial offender hunting women? was he hunting another even now? the due detectives were convinced of it. but as badly as they wanted to lock him away, they just did not have sufficient evidence. so travis was a freeman, roaming fort collins at will, and at night. "dateline" returns after the break. ♪ i'm gonna keep on lovin' you ♪ turns out everyone does sound better in the shower. and it turns out the general is a quality insurance company that's been saving people money for nearly 60 years. for a great low rate, and nearly 60 years of quality coverage, go with the general. hello, i'm cori coffin. thousands more cancellations as winter weather continues to wreak havoc on the industry. flights canceled in the last24 hours. law enforcement officials announced sunday that one other missing person had been found, quote, alive and well. now back to "dateline." on the fourth floor of the denver critical care hospital lydia tillman was still alive, if barely. still in a medically induced coma. still suffering god knew what damage from her massive stroke. but all the while her family sat by her side and talked to her. >> we'd say, lydia, you're doing great, you're healing, you just rest and heal, that's all you have to do. we'd play classical music for her. we'd talk over her so she knew we were there. we just wanted that ever presence for her. >> do you think she was aware of any of that? >> i think deep inside she knew that her family was fighting for her. >> reporter: as if worrying about lydia's fragile condition wasn't enough, her family also feared the attack wasn't over. >> it was really scary. since we didn't know who had done this, i kept looking out of the hospital room and seeing if someone would come to finish the job. and so we had to keep her completely anonymous in the hospital. we had a code that we had to say to go see her. only family members and only ones that were listed. >> you were always kind of looking over your shoulder. >> definitely. >> reporter: lydia's family was quite unaware that police did have a prime suspect, travis forbes, who was also a suspect in the disappearance of a girl lydia's family had never heard of, kenia monge. >> the similarities were definitely the bleach. i don't know what it is about forbes, but he has an obsession with bleach, and we'd actually heard that from his past girlfriends as well, that he would obsessively clean his house with bleach. and there was bleach used in kenia's case as well. the fact they were both dark-haired, both pretty girls, around the same age, it was chillingly similar. >> reporter: but the truly frightening fact was that their suspect was still out there somewhere on the street at large, potentially targeting his next victim, and it would stay that way unless detectives could prove that the attacks were both the work of travis forbes. there was one possibility and really only one. sitting at the denver police crime lab were several swabs of travis's dna, which detective nash gurule had obtained when the two talked in texas. >> we needed that obviously quickly to compare it to what had been collected from lydia tillman when she was transported to the hospital. >> but she'd been sprayed with bleach and every -- and she'd been burned. i mean, was there actually any dna left? >> there actually was. it was pretty amazing. it's amazing how resilient dna is. >> reporter: so on a friday evening just four days after lydia's attack the dna found under her fingernail and the sample taken from forbes were taken to the colorado bureau of investigation for processing to see if they matched. >> i didn't sleep. i couldn't sleep. there was no way. it didn't really matter. i didn't care. and it was amazing because we had technicians at colorado bureau of investigation who had no necessary buy-in into this was but they were working around the clock as well because they knew what a big deal this was. >> reporter: 60 miles away in denver detective nash gurule was also awaiting those dna results, anxiously. but he was also angry. >> at myself. >> at yourself? why? >> thinking to myself, what else could i have done to prevent this? >> what other evidence could i have gathered that would have got him arrested? >> did i miss something that could have kept him there? i could have had something concrete to arrest him on. what did i miss? and i threw that around in my head. >> you take this stuff personally. >> this one i did. and i'm thinking to myself, is he that smart? is he that smart? >> reporter: and now forbes was out here, somewhere. friday night, dark now. it was warm in fort collins. a college town, remember. in the old town bar district young people gathered around favorite watering holes. plenty of young women, carefree, drinking, celebrating a weekend, unaware. unworried. but this time the police were watching because they were very worried. >> we had the surveillance set up on him over the weekend. we were not going to let him out of our sights. so we had teams that were rotating while we were waiting so we could actually make an arrest. >> reporter: all weekend surveillance teams followed forbes as he cruised the nightclub district. >> he had a bottle of whiskey he'd been carrying around with him all night. he didn't go into any of the bars. he basically just walked around and -- >> he was trolling. >> trolling. yeah. that's a good way to put it. >> reporter: late at night the undercover cops spotted travis following a young woman walking home alone. so without revealing the surveillance team one of the cops approached him, and travis gave him a fake name, called him travis kennedy. the officer let him go. but travis did not go home. and before very long began following a second woman. she appeared to be drunk. travis closed in. >> they're like, this guy's too much of a danger, we've got to figure out a way to get him off the street. so they ended up arresting him for false reporting, for giving a false name. >> reporter: in fact detective shaklee's husband was part of that surveillance team and actually put the cuffs on travis. >> what was it like when you two kind of got together to compare notes? >> it was pretty emotional. and it was actually an emotional phone call. he called me to let me know that -- i'm going to get emotional now. that he had taken him into custody and that he was off the streets. just some closure to five days of really scary, really scary for our community and our home. >> reporter: but there was a catch. when the cops arrested forbes for giving a false name, it was only a misdemeanor. without some new charge he'd be out on bail in no time. "dateline" returns after the break. break. . its highly active peroxide droplets... ...swipe on in seconds. better. faster. 100% whiter teeth. shop crestwhitesmile.com. one of the worst things about a cold sore is how it can make you feel. but, when used at the first sign, abreva can get you back to being you in just 2 and a half days. be kinder to yourself and tougher on your cold sores. brown brick building on the outskirts of denver is normally quiet at night and on weekends. but in mid july 2011 the colorado bureau of investigation crime lab was a beehive of activity. a team of technicians were working round the clock, comparing a dna sample of lydia tillman's attacker to that of travis forbes to see if they matched. 60 miles away in fort collins detective jaclyn shaklee couldn't sit still. >> i was high on adrenaline. it was a waiting game. i mean, i kept looking at my phone, hoping for the technician from cbi to call me. >> reporter: especially because travis forbes, who was being held in the fort collins jail, was due to be released soon. very soon. >> he was given a bond and was about to bond out like 10:30 on monday night. >> reporter: the weekend was over. monday ticked by. >> it's a long process. it's not like a tv show where you can -- they do it in 40 minutes and you have a hit. so i knew it was going to take a while. i just kept praying that it would happen earlier. >> reporter: and then, just minutes before travis's release, a call from the cbi. >> we had a hit. >> wow. >> yes. >> reporter: the man who attacked lydia tillman was, the dna confirmed, travis forbes. >> it was the biggest adrenaline dump ever. and of course i called detective gurule in tears. we did it. he's charged. he's in jail. he's not getting out. >> i was relieved that now he's going to be in jail and he won't be able to hurt nobody. now we know where he's at, so i don't have to be searching for him. >> reporter: word of travis's arrest also traveled quickly to kenia monge's family. >> i was shocked. i knew that he would eventually hang himself. but i didn't think he'd go out and try to murder again this soon. and i was shocked. we were shocked. >> yeah. >> reporter: but they still didn't know what happened to kenia. quickly, the lee family called a news conference and delivered a message to travis forbes. >> anybody's going to relay any messages to him, tell him, or if you guys talk to him, tell him we've got just one question. where is kenia? that's it. >> reporter: but travis wasn't talking anymore. so lee offered a radical idea. >> i called assistant d.a. lombardi, and i said make a deal. >> you wanted a deal? >> yeah. i don't care what it is. i said i don't care. you could take it down to manslaughter. i didn't care. just make a deal. let's just -- we just want kenia. >> we really couldn't -- i mean, we were getting there. we were still investigating. what i really wanted was for -- tell us where she was. so we could give closure to this family. >> reporter: but travis was now facing an attempted murder charge for the assault on lydia. and as his case started working its way toward trial, he sat silently, mute in his cell. especially when detective shaklee paid him a visit. >> he was looking at me like a caged animal. his eyes were huge. he -- it was really creepy. obviously, i wanted to talk to him. i wanted to get an interview with him and see if he would tell me something. and he immediately said, i'm not talking to you, get -- get out of here. >> reporter: but across town someone was communicating. after spending five weeks in icu lydia tillman was transferred to a local rehab hospital. a long, slow recovery began. >> hi, lydia. >> i showed her a video of my kids saying hello to her because they missed their aunt lydia. >> i want you to get better soon. >> and she got to the part where my 4-year-old started to talk. and she laughed and said hi, lydia. >> hi, lydia. >> it was the first time i got to see her laugh, and i went, she's got memory, she can laugh. >> reporter: but detective gurule's murder case against travis forbes and his search for kenia monge had both stalled, nearly five months after kenia vanished and still no sign of her. but one day he got a call from the crime lab, requesting another dna sample of travis for the fbi. >> i drove up there to get his dna. i walked in, laid down my recorder. he didn't want to talk to any of the detectives, in fort collins, anywhere. but he always talked to me. >> what's up, nash? why are you here? >> i am here because i have a warrant for you. >> reporter: for the next two hours, like a couple of old college chums, the two shot the breeze about philosophy and books and religion and of course kenia's case, about which travis remained evasive. >> i said, i've been here a long time, travis, i'm done. i'm done playing chess with you. you move one way, i move another way. i said i'm coming for you. i'm telling you that. i said the next time you see me i'll be charging you for murder. i said what do you want out of this? what exactly do you want out of this? >> i want to go to prison without being labeled as a sex offender. >> okay. what else? >> that's it. that's it. >> you'll confess to everything if you go to prison without being labeled a sex offender? is that what you're saying? you're man enough to say that? >> yes. yes. yes. that's what i'm saying. >> reporter: detective gurule was stunned. travis wanted to cut a deal? gurule used a little reverse psychology to make sure he meant it. >> i told him i think you're full of it, i don't think you're going to do this. i think you're going to back out. and i think you're spineless. and i think it's all about you, it's a game. i said i think you're going to pull out. he says, no, i won't. i said, travis, you do what you say you're going to do, i'll be the first one to shake your hand. >> he knew the fort collins authorities would buy in. so all he needed now were the crossed ts and dotted is. the legal formalities. >> i left the jail, went out to my car, and thought to myself, did i just hear this right or am i dreaming? i even played the recording back to myself. and i thought, wow. >> people just don't do that sort of thing. >> right. he's confessing to a murder without a body and without seeing the case. i've talked to my commanders, and they said never in the history of this police department has that ever happened. ever. >> reporter: finally, after frustrating months of knuckle-biting tension, disappearances, dead-end games of cat and mouse, detective gurule was about to get the answers he'd been searching for. and he was exhausted. to celebrate and rest up gurule decided to take a few days off with his wife. >> so we're driving out of town. i get a call and they say he pulled out. >> coming up, will he or won't he? >> i looked at her and i'm crying. i said, there's nothing more i could do. >> then the moment of truth. >> his whole demeanor changed. he let out this scream, just this blood -- it made me jump. i wasn't expecting it at all. >> when "dateline" continues. first time the other day... and forgot where she was. you can always spot a first time gain flings user. we're eating and drinking foods and beverages that are very acidic. it can soften the enamel. pronamel repair, what it's doing is driving more minerals deep into the enamel surface, that's going to help actively repair. pronamel is taking it to another level. 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and i looked at her, and i'm crying. i said, there's nothing more i could do. i got him there. i led him there. i led him to the trough. >> reporter: gurule and his wife went on their trip anyway, and for three long days he was left twisting in the wind once again by travis forbes. kenia's family knew nothing of this, still holding out hope that she was somehow alive. >> every time i was driving down the street and i seen a skinny little black-haired girl, i can't tell you how many accidents i've almost had trying to get around the corner to see who this little skinny black-haired girl is. there was still reports coming in of sightings of her. and you've got to turn in all these sightings because you don't know. >> reporter: but then something happened to travis forbes that weekend. he apparently had second thoughts about his own second thoughts. >> and when i got back on monday, i got a call and they said the deal's back on, it's being finalized, we should be able to be going next week. >> sometimes taking a weekend away is quite profitable. >> yes. the weight of the world just got lifted from me. >> the deal with travis was quite straightforward. no death penalty, no sex crimes charges. and in exchange he would give them a complete confession. what he did to kenia and lydia. and one more thing. he would show them exactly where kenia was. and so on a humid morning in september 2011 forbes found himself in a procession of police cars on a country road northeast of denver. investigators had been here many times before, searching the fields near the farm town of keenesburg looking for kenia. but this day travis had solemnly promised he was going to show them. trailing a car behind travis was d.a. kerri lombardi, nervous, anxious, and pessimistic. >> i was worried he wouldn't follow through. because i felt like he sort of liked this game, i thought. >> so on the way what were you thinking? >> will he do this? will he not? will something spook him? will he change his mind? is this a big farce? you know, i didn't know if, you know, there was even -- if we were even going to the right place. >> reporter: travis was in the lead car, which included detectives nash gurule and jaclyn shaklee. >> it was really quiet for the first five or ten minutes. he was sitting right next to me. i had an air cast on my foot because i had a running injury. he looked down and said what did you do to your foot? i said it's a stress fracture from running. >> reporter: and that got travis talking. about running marathons, movies, food. all sorts of things. >> and obviously we were talking about whatever he wanted to talk about to keep his cooperation. i have to remember that i have a monster sitting next to me and just playing it up. we had to get to that body. we wanted to know where she was and bring her home to her family. >> then we start getting closer, he starts getting a little more quiet. we drive out to the site. next to a little grove of trees. >> reporter: and then quite suddenly, no warning, something came over the cool and breezy travis forbes. >> he got out of the car, and his whole demeanor changed, and he let out this scream. just this blood curdling -- it made me jump. i wasn't expecting it at all. >> reporter: but just as quickly, travis pulled himself together and pointed. >> he says, she's over there. so we walk over there. and he's standing up on top of the hill, there's like a little ravine. he says, you're standing right on top of her. >> reporter: soon the digging began. >> and it was a very, very slow process. there was an anthropologist there. and so then they finally got the dirt off of her. and there she was. and it was pretty awful. i stood there, and of course had i stood there, and of course had seen these beautiful pictures of her. there's this smiling image in your head of her having a good time and smiling. and then to see that. it was very difficult. >> reporter: there was something else perhaps even more difficult that kerri lombardi had to do. >> i called tony lee and said, you know, that they had found a body where he had told us she was, we had found something. >> and i needed to let my family know before any of this hit the news. you can't prepare yourself or practice yourself for write down a speech for that day. and i had to tell her. >> what was that like? >> that was the hardest thing i've ever done. then i -- >> she had been hanging on to hope. >> she had been hanging on to hope. >> you had to finally -- >> i had to snatch that rug out from under her. and she lost it. and there was nothing i could do for her because i had already lost it myself. >> reporter: then tony had to tell his children. kenia's little sister and brother. >> and the first question out of both of their mouths at the different times, is she alive? and i had to tell them no. i couldn't do nothing for them. >> i just don't feel like it's fair that people get to grow up with their sisters but she was only there for a little bit of my life. like she won't be able to see like me grow up and get married or have kids, and i won't be able to see her grow up and get married and have kids. like we'll just never get to have that bond. >> reporter: but this most horrendous of days wasn't quite over. police still needed a complete confession from forbes on tape. >> we're driving back. i look back at him. he goes, hey, nash, i told you i'd tell you where she was. he goes, are you happy you found her? he goes, are you happy? and i said there's some questions that need to be answered. and i said once those questions are -- once those questions are answered, then i'll be happy. "all right, nash. i told you i'd do it. i told you i would do it." and i said, yes, you did. >> reporter: detective gurule sat down with travis for one last interview. after five long months out came the words he needed to hear. >> i killed her. i did not mean to kill her. i didn't pull over to kill her. i didn't pull over to rape her. none of that was in my head. none of it was premeditated. >> reporter: but then it all came out. travis told them how he spotted kenia on the street. how he raped her, how he strangled her, how he stuffed her in his cooler, drove around with the body in his white van for a whole day, then stored it in the bakery's freezer while he cleaned out his van with bleach and burned her clothes. and then early the next morning he buried her body near a clump of cottonwood trees. >> after we were done with our interview i walked up to him and stuck out my hand. i go, thanks. and he stood up, shook my hand, and he said, "i told you i would do it." i said, you did. he says, "you just wouldn't give up." and i looked at him, and i said, you're right. >> reporter: later that day travis also confessed to the attempted murder of lydia tillman. soon he would be sentenced separately for both crimes. but there was one last surprise coming. something no one saw coming. least of all travis forbes. coming up, as travis awaits sentencing, the woman who had beaten the odds made a stunning entry into the courtroom. >> to do what she did, she's a superhero in my eyes. >> when "dateline" continues. it's a thirteen-hour flight, that's not a weekend trip. fifteen minutes until we board. oh yeah, we gotta take off. you downloaded the td ameritrade mobile app so you can quickly check the markets? yeah, actually i'm taking one last look at my dashboard before we board. excellent. and you have thinkorswim mobile- -so i can finish analyzing the risk on this position. you two are all set. have a great flight. thanks. we'll see ya. ah, they're getting so smart. choose the app that fits your investing style. ♪♪ she was home now. after five long, horrible months. kenia monge was given a proper burial. >> we needed her home or we needed to know a place to where we at least could go and be with her every day. and that was either home or in a grave someplace. >> thank god that we have answers. not the answers exactly we want, but we do have answers now. and it still hurts. [ applause ] >> reporter: but as one family mourned, another had something remarkable to celebrate. lydia tillman was coming home. because of the stroke, speech was still practically impossible. but the fact she was walking at all truly amazing. some kind of miracle, said her doctor, rebecca bearden. >> i believe that lydia shouldn't have survived that day. she went through so much. and she probably shouldn't have made it. but she did. and it was because of her determination and her joy. >> reporter: soon after that at travis forbes' sentencing hearing lydia met kenia's family. >> i looked at lydia and wished it was kenia. i hate to say that. but i'm glad she was able to escape the monster. >> yeah. >> it was overwhelming, you know, to see the amount of her strength and her will to live. you know, and what she did during her court proceedings on the day that he was sentenced for what he did to her. >> reporter: what she did that day was simply amazing. hard to believe. sitting just feet away from the man who raped her, smashed her face and body, doused her with bleach, set her on fire, lydia tillman struck a blow against evil. she gave travis a gift. she forgave him. since she was unable to speak herself, her father read her statement for her, saying that to forgive is easier than holding anger. >> there wasn't a dry eye in that courtroom, including the judge. it's freeing for her. and i understand that. and i did the same. because we're not going to live in that hatred, in that -- that >> she's amazing. to do what she did and to endure what she went through, i couldn't imagine. i couldn't imagine. she is -- she's a superhero in my eyes. >> reporter: and then there was one more surprise. no, not travis's sentence, life in prison. that was merely a formality. it was another gift. this time from kenia to lydia. >> i start crying with her. she start crying with me. i felt very strong inside me like kenia was telling me mom, give her the ring, i was wearing it. it was kenia's ring. give it to her. >> it was kenia's favorite ring. >> i gave it to her and she was so happy. she said thank you, and she was holding me. and that moment i was holding her, it's like i was holding kenia. >> we are related in tragedy. we've got a connection with each other unfortunately for the rest of our lives, and -- because of travis. >> reporter: tony and his family built a memorial here on the high plains where kenia was found. and while she continues to live in their hearts, her loss has taken a toll. in 2018 tony and maria divorced, but tony still devotes himself to spreading awareness and warnings, and help. >> the story of kenia is what has created the kenia monge foundation. we go to the families of the missing and reach out to them, and they are very grateful. >> and lydia tillman, we saved this surprise for last. lydia worked very hard to recover. >> try this one. >> and to speak. >> stimuli. >> stimuli. >> nice. try yesterday. lydia has -- she's rocked my world. >> dr. jill armour. >> i think lydia has the ability to make a full recovery, and i think she's tenacious and perseveres enough that she may just well do that. >> and so a proper introduction. just ten months after the attack that nearly took her life, lydia tillman spoke in her own words. people were amazed you survived at all frankly. >> yeah. i am amazed, too. >> what has been, in the long recovery process, the most difficult thing to do? >> re-learning how to speak was still difficult. >> yes. >> i am trying to find a balance between my ambitions and my still-healing body and brain. >> yeah. so, where were you in the process of getting better when travis went to court to plead guilty and be sentenced? >> i am -- was just out of rehab. the hardest day of my life. >> really? >> to forgive him is -- it was super difficult. >> how could you do that after what he did to you? >> to heal myself, rather than being angry -- >> because that would not help you? >> yeah. >> you harbor no bitterness, no -- >> rarely, i get mad. i believe travis forbes was acting out of fear and hatred. i choose love and peace over fear -- fear. and i won. >> so she did. and then she said with that big infectious smile on her face that she brought a gift for me. >> it's a bracelet. it's on -- >> may i open it? >> yes. an acronym for my name. >> ah. >> it says live your days inspired anew. >> which, of course, spells lydia. there is great sadness surrounding the story of travis forbes. unending sadness for kenia's family. for the unknown other families who, as many now suspect, may have been victimized by his past behavior. and then from that darkest place came the indomitable lydia who forgave, who won, who told us, live your days inspired anew. this sunday, january 6th, one year later. it was a violent effort to overturn a free and fair election. >> the deadly siege on congress as an angry pro-trump mob storms the u.s. capitol. >> behind the violence, former president trump's big lie of a stolen election. >> this is a fraud on the american public. we were getting ready to win this election. frankly, we did win this election. >> as he tried to reverse the results -- >> i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.

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>> both dark-haired, both pretty girls. chillingly similar. >> a case that led to unheard of places. >> in the history of my department that's never happened. >> and then finally, far from the city, the truth, revealed on a quiet country road. >> he got out of the car and let out this scream. >> and an act of courage from a woman who refused to be a victim. >> and i won. the woman in the icu was barely alive. her jaw shattered in a dozen pieces. a once beautiful face unrecognizable after the brutal beating, the rape, the fire, the fall, the massive nearly fatal stroke. someone thought she'd be dead now. someone who fled into the night. someone killing women. and this one deep in a coma at the threshold of death is their only chance to catch him before he does it again. what happened here was spawned in a very dark corner of the human condition. by that terrifying flaw that forces us to admit, yes, virginia, there really is a bogey man. and against him were the only weapons they had. the power of one family. a determined cop. and one remarkable gift in the face of evil. here's where it began, three months before that scene in the icu. this is the nightclub district, denver, colorado. people here call this part of town lodo. short for lower downtown. very trendy. it was the night before april fool's day 2011. a warm spring evening in denver. girls' night out. an attractive 19-year-old named kenia monge was on her way to lodo to party with some girlfriends. >> she was very kind, friendly, outgoing. just a happy person. >> reporter: among the partiers, janet gomez, one of kenia's closest friends. she loved to have fun. >> yeah, she loved to have fun. >> reporter: underage fun. no trouble sneaking in. they charmed the bouncers, flashed fake i.d.s. kenia and her crew had a kind of unwritten safety rule. go together and leave together. look out for each other. but on this particular night things didn't go as planned. >> we had planned to meet at lavish. we went in there, and she wasn't in there. >> reporter: kenia had gotten a ride downtown with two other girls she didn't know very well. her plan was to meet janet and some other friends at lavish, but she didn't show up. >> i started texting her, and no response. and i called her three times. nothing. >> reporter: what janet didn't know is that kenia and the two other girls couldn't get into the club. the bouncers weren't buying their fake i.d. cards. so they went to another club nearby, even took a few pictures. but they didn't tell anyone they were there. >> and i sent her the last message about 11:30, and nothing. >> reporter: so when the clubs closed, janet headed home without kenia, who she assumed was with some other friends. >> i thought okay, they're probably just having fun, she'll call tomorrow. she would always call me in the morning. >> did you ever worry about her when she went out like that clubbing? >> no, she was very smart. >> she wouldn't take chances? >> no. >> no, because though she loved to party, kenia was known as the responsible one. reliable, ambitious, hard-working, not flaky at all. she had recently graduated from one of colorado's top high schools, was now considering careers in tv production or criminology. here she is directing a student film. all the more remarkable because just seven years earlier kenia didn't know more than a word or two of english. >> [ speaking spanish ]. >> reporter: and not a single person in denver. apart, that is, from her mother, maria, who had migrated from honduras a few years before. and when she and kenia were finally reunited -- >> it was the happy day in my life. when i held her, hold her, oh, my god, i was so happy. and we went home and telling her how much i miss her. and she said me too, mom, and now we are together, nothing going to separate us. >> reporter: by the time kenia came to colorado maria was married to tony lee and together they had two children. now kenia made three. >> i remember meeting her for the first time. the first words that she said to me were "thank you, daddy." i'll never forget that. and she hugged me. >> reporter: so connecting with the family took no time at all. >> i always thought about the song from the brady family, how we all came together and became a -- became a family. it was pretty much that was kind of how it worked out. and it clicked from day one. >> and there's all the girls there, all the wonderful women in my life. >> thank you, daddy. >> reporter: and for kenia's little sister, kimberly, it felt like the best thing that ever happened. >> tomorrow kenia makes one whole year in america. >> i thought she was going to be like the big sister everybody dreams of. it was even better than i imagined. >> better? >> mm-hmm. she was very loving and caring. i felt like she was my twin. we'd text each other every day. every morning, every night, throughout school. she would call me sometimes. she'd just want to say i love you. >> what did you have in common, the two of you. >> we liked to watch "csi" together. we liked to pick on my little brother together. >> of course. >> we liked to go shopping together. we liked to get the same outfits. >> reporter: but she was independent, too, was kenia. after high school she moved out to make it on her own. >> she always wanted to be something big. she always wanted to be a ceo of something. that was her goal in life, was to be somebody. >> ah! >> she came from having nothing to being somebody, and on one of her calendars it says like study, study, study, and then it says party on the last day. she was balancing her job, and she was balancing school, and she was balancing like her party life. >> reporter: but on the morning of april fools' day 2011 nothing was balanced. something was wrong. her friend janet gomez desperate to hear from kenia dove for her phone the moment it rang. but it wasn't from kenia. it was another girlfriend. >> she's like, are you with kenia? and i say no. i thought she was with you. and that's when it all started. >> reporter: started? oh, it had more than started for kenia monge. swallowed up by, well, whatever it was. some dark presence haunting the happy dipsy streets of lodo. coming up, kenia's family starts to worry. had that dark presence, whatever it might be, had it come for their own daughter? >> something was wrong. something was wrong. >> that's when i went into high alert. and long-lasting gain scent beads. try spring daydream, now part of our irresistible scent collection. ♪ ♪ at lowe's, with endless ways to organize what you need, you'll find some of the peace-of-mind you want. at prices you'll really want. start the year fresh at lowe's. shop lowe's store & save event now in-store and online. up at 2:00am again? tonight, try pure zzzs all night. unlike other sleep aids, our extended release melatonin helps you sleep longer. and longer. zzzquil pure zzzs all night. fall asleep. stay asleep. when you have xfinity, you have entertainment built in. which is kind of nice. ah, what is happening. binge-watching is in the bag, when you find all your apps, all in one place. find live sports faster just by using your voice... sports on now. touchdown irish! 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and i was like, no. he was like, have you talked to her? i was like, no. he was like, well, she's missing. i was like, shut up. like this isn't funny. tell me the truth. like where is she? and he was like, i'm being serious, you need to call your parents and tell them to call the police and file a missing person report. and then i called my mom. >> i started calling my sisters and my -- all the family. i said maybe it's a joke. and my sister got very worried. she said i don't think so it's a joke. >> when i got the call from my daughter kim and she said that she had not heard anything from her that day, that's when i went into high alert. >> reporter: but when tony called kenia's friends, they weren't exactly straight with him about their underage bar hopping the night before in those lodo nightclubs. >> it was very, very, very confusing because these girls were -- they were not telling me the truth about what they were doing and where they were at because they were covering their asses. >> reporter: so tony turned amateur detective and was finally able to confirm that kenia had spent the evening not with her close friends but with two other girls she barely knew. and -- >> she had left her purse, a phone and her i.d. and all that stuff in the bar. >> reporter: her stuff. kenia never went anywhere without it. especially her cell phone. and she certainly wouldn't just leave it with two people she hardly knew. >> something is really wrong. something is wrong. >> reporter: the night after kenia was last seen here in lodo, one of the girls she was drinking with showed up at the lees' house to drop off her belongings. kenia was happily dancing till about 1:00 in the morning she said with some guy and then she disappeared. they looked for her but couldn't find her, she said. and when the bar closed, they took her purse and cell phone and just kind of assumed that kenia would get home on her own somehow. >> reporter: i was looking through her text messages from the day before and these conversations she was having with her friends, hey, this is where we're going to hook up at. >> reporter: the phone showed that kenia suddenly stopped sending texts right after 11:00 p.m. but of course her phone kept receiving texts, practically all night. >> her boyfriend started texting her asking her, hey, where you at? you being good? hey, you're not contacting me. >> reporter: the next morning the texts continued from kenia's friends, all asking where was she. >> and then there was a dead area, and then the next text that came in was about 7:00 p.m. that night. >> reporter: but this one? this one jumped off the screen, was just plain weird. >> and the message said, "hey, this is travis, the guy in the creepy white van, smiley face. did you get home okay?" >> reporter: travis? who was travis? nobody in kenia's circle of friends and family had ever heard of anybody named travis. >> i kept calling him. i kept leaving these messages. >> reporter: no answer. no calls back. at this point the mysterious travis in the creepy white van was the only possible lead in their daughter's disappearance. they filed a missing persons report. but it was too soon, the police told them, to start an investigation. and so alone, they panicked. >> we were running around like chickens with our heads cut off and we didn't know what to do first. so we were just trying to figure out what have we got to do. >> reporter: and then, one terrifying day later, the mysterious travis finally returned tony's calls. and travis had some rather stunning news about kenia's whereabouts and just who she might be with. coming up, tony on a mission that would leave his wife paralyzed with fear. >> immediately i was so afraid. >> grabbed the 9-millimeter pistol. i packed it in my waist and i told her, i'm on my way to meet this guy. >> when "dateline" continues. ♪“i swear”♪ jaycee tried gain flings for the first time the other day... and forgot where she was. you can always spot a first time gain flings user. ♪“i swear”♪ jaycee tried gain flings for the first time the other day... and forgot where she was. you can always spot a first time gain flings user. (swords clashing) -had enough? -no... arthritis. here. aspercreme arthritis. full prescription-strength? reduces inflammation? thank the gods. don't thank them too soon. kick pain in the aspercreme. ah, that's what you got? >> reporter: kenia and kimberly. as close as two sisters could be. always together, always talking and texting, facebooking. at first when the messages suddenly stopped -- >> i didn't really take it seriously, like i didn't think she was going to be gone that long. >> reporter: but after 48 long hours -- >> what's that like? that feeling. >> it's a feeling of being like desperate to know where your sister is. because that was not only my best friend, like that was my sister. that was my other half. that was everything to me. >> reporter: and then that second night after kenia vanished there was this call from a total stranger named travis. >> travis called me back about 8:00 p.m. >> reporter: the guy who left that rather odd text message on kenia's phone to see if she'd gotten home safely from the nightclub. >> and he told me the story. yeah, you know, i seen her out there. asked her if she needed any help because she seemed like she was really drunk and she was really out of it, you know. so i said, well, i'd better help her. so she got in my van. >> reporter: travis told kenia's dad that as he was driving her home, she asked to stop at a gas station for cigarettes. but there something strange happened. she met another guy, who said he'd take her home. and so, said travis, he left them there. >> and that's the last he saw of her? >> that's what he said. that's the last he saw of her. and i got off the phone, and i thought to myself, that is the most fantastic story i've ever heard. not one word of what he told me made any sense to me. >> reporter: tony called the denver police to report all that but was told, remember, that the cops couldn't open an investigation because kenia hadn't been missing long enough. >> i'm pissed. i'm sitting there, i'm like i can't believe this. so i took matters into my own hands. i called travis back. and i said, travis, i've got some questions i want to ask you. tell me again where you last saw her at. and he says, well, i was at this conoco station. tell you what, why don't you meet me there? i told him i'm on my way. >> immediately i was so afraid. i said, oh, my god. >> i grabbed the 9-millimeter pistol. i packed it in my waist. and i told her, i'm on my way to meet this guy. maria was down on her hands and knees literally begging me, tony, don't do this, don't go down there, this is dangerous, this don't sound right. i told her i've got to go, they're not going to do anything. i've got to go. >> and i grabbed the phone and i called 911. >> reporter: tony roared over to that conoco station nerves on edge, gun close to hand, expecting what? a violent confrontation? a dangerous standoff? a weirdo? but it was none of those things. travis forbes was there, all right. patiently waiting. and he looked just fine. not scary at all. >> he was very thin. blond hair, blue eyes, good-looking guy. my first impression of him was, you know, looks decent enough guy, if you're going to have somebody pick up your kid, you know, and help them out, you know. >> seemed like a nice guy. >> yeah. >> reporter: and because maria called 911, the denver police were at the gas station, too. so the cops, not tony, did most of the talking with travis. >> he told them that same story that he told me on the phone, and it was very consistent. the story that he told them matched exactly. i told the officers, i said man, everything he's told me just don't sound right. it just don't sound right. >> reporter: it didn't sound right to the cops either. but they had nothing to hold travis on. he'd been cooperative, forthcoming, concerned for kenia. so they let him go. as the meeting wrapped up, travis sidled up to tony and started talking. >> he was crying, telling me, i promised i'd take care of her. i wish i could have followed through on what i'd done. i feel responsible for this. wish i could have done more. >> reporter: travis certainly seemed sincere. his story, though strange, was consistent. maybe he was telling the truth and that man kenia met at the gas station had abducted her. >> i stuck my hand out, said appreciate it. and we shook hands. and when i shook his hand, it was as if an earthquake was going on under his feet and it was only in my hand i could feel it. his arm wasn't shaking, his body wasn't shaking, there was no quivering, but i felt that shake. and i looked at him. and i knew i'd shaken the hand of the last person that had seen kenia alive. there was no doubt in my mind. i knew in that instant. >> and you believed as of that moment that she was dead? >> yes. >> coming up -- was he right? they were about to come across a disturbing clue. >> he was determined to erase something. >> everything. everything. >> when "dateline" continues. cs hello. here's what's happening. defense secretary lloyd austin said sunday he's tested positive for covid-19 and was experiencing mild symptoms while quarantining at home. austin is one of the highest ranking officials in the biden cabinet to test positive. harry reid will lie in state in the capitol rotunda this wednesday. the ceremony will be limited to invited guests. reid died at his home after battling pancreatic cancer. now back to "dateline." ♪♪ kenia monge was at a downtown denver nightclub with her friends one week ago. >> reporter: kenia monge's disappearance was big news in denver. >> she was last seen wearing a black skirt, black jacket, and red high-heeled shoes. >> reporter: kenia's family was frantic, desperately hoping she was still alive. >> i couldn't sleep. i'd pray. i'd get on my knees every day, god, please, bring kenia home. please. >> reporter: janet gomez and kenia's other close friends kept looking, hoping someone would come forward with a clue. >> we kept just putting flyers everywhere. we had to do it. you know, she was our friend. >> and got nowhere. >> you just have to be strong and just pray for the best. >> reporter: and now family and friends were not alone in the search for kenia. a veteran denver police detective named nash gurule started looking too. to say detective gurule is imposing is perhaps an understatement. looks more like a character from "the sopranos." but hates when children go missing. >> i wanted to find her. i wanted to give her family closure. i wanted to give the city of denver closure. i was determined to bring her home. i was determined to bring her home. >> reporter: carrie lombardi was the deputy d.a. assigned to the case. >> i felt a lot of pressure personally to give this family some closure. i couldn't stand the thought of having a child out there and not knowing if they were alive or where they were. and i really wanted to be able to give them that information. >> reporter: they focused first of course on the good samaritan, the guy who'd given kenia a ride, travis forbes. he was 31, they discovered, had a rap sheet for theft and drugs. but now he owned a small business in denver, baking and delivering gluten-free granola bars. he was renting a space at a local bakery, owned by monica poole. >> travis was energetic. he seemed friendly. wanted to have a business. he launched into granola bars, which i thought was a great idea. they didn't exist in the marketplace. not the way he was making them. >> reporter: travis could bake. but he wasn't the best businessman. he was often in debt, sometimes missed deliveries and deadlines. and one day he came to work, seemed a little frazzled, and told monica about his odd encounter the night before. >> he said i gave some girl a ride home and she's missing and she's gone. and i thought, wow, that's kind of strange. whatever. >> reporter: then a few days later monica's bakery was crawling with cops. >> when the police showed up, i thought, wow, that must be that missing girl. >> reporter: detectives looked around, even shot this video of the place. but they didn't find much. travis was there. so they took him downtown for questioning. >> travis, this is detective gurule. >> how's it going? travis. >> he's a talker. very, very charming. very manipulative. >> i never met her before then -- >> reporter: and talk travis did. reciting the very same story he told tony lee, about picking up a lost and distressed kenia downtown. then stopping for cigarettes at that gas station. where she met another man, who said he'd take her home. >> she put her arm through his arm. like while they were -- while they were sitting there smoking. and they spoke spanish, and they walked off. and that was it. that was the last -- that was it. then i went home. >> and that's the last you see of her? >> yes. >> reporter: travis was cool, calm, even contrite about leaving kenia with that strange fellow at the gas station. >> if she had made the choice to -- to go back home or to get in my van, i would have taken her home. i would not -- i mean, and if i had felt any sort of -- any sort of weirdness about her walking off with that guy, i would have done something. >> he was really worried about this whole, very about this missing girl. but we believe you. he didn't do anything. >> reporter: in fact there, was no evidence travis did anything wrong. he certainly wasn't a suspect. barely a person of interest. he even had an alibi for his whereabouts after he dropped off kenia. >> he said he'd gone to his girlfriend's house. at the time that we knew that she had disappeared. and then his girlfriend came in. but she supported his statement. >> yeah. >> reporter: of course they let him go. had to. but what about that mysterious man travis said he left kenia with at the gas station? >> we couldn't find him. he was gone. >> wow. >> we send out bulletins. we put it on the news. and we didn't get anybody to come forward and say, yeah, i know this guy. >> reporter: but d.a. lombardi did get a search warrant for travis' white cargo van, to see if it held any clues. and inside it reeked of bleach. >> to the point where when you spray something like on a ceiling, a roof, and you spray it so much it drips down, that's how much bleach he'd sprayed on this van. >> he was determined to erase something. >> everything. everything. so we're going through his van, we're taking off doors, we're vacuuming, we're crawling underneath it. >> reporter: the van for the most part was spotless. except for something odd that caught the cop's attention. >> we found some weeds underneath. we found some dirt. some dust. different things. >> hmm. what'd that tell you? >> he's been on a dirt road. at least that van has. >> reporter: so gurule and lombardi pored through travis' cell phone records to see where he was around the time of kenia's disappearance. and they noticed he made and received several calls from a rural area near a little place called keenesburg, about 40 miles northeast of denver. not exactly one of the stops along travis' granola bar delivery route. was he there for long? >> 3 1/2 hours. >> long enough to do something. potentially dispose of a body. >> absolutely. >> so what did you do about that? >> we sent probably 25 detectives up there, looking at fields, running the gulches, checking the ponds, talking to neighbors, see if they saw a white van. we were checking everything. >> but there was no sign. >> nothing. >> only the trail left by a cell phone? >> correct. >> reporter: but back at the bakery, another clue surfaced. on surveillance video it showed travis forbes doing a lot more than baking granola bars. coming up -- from surveillance video -- >> that seemed really strange. >> to the local news. >> we were all watching, and we lost it. >> when "dateline" continues. >>s and long-lasting gain scent beads. try spring daydream, now part of our irresistible scent collection. i just heard something amazing! one medication is approved to treat and prevent migraines. don't take if allergic to nurtec. the most common side effects were nausea, stomach pain, and indigestion. ask your doctor about nurtec today! the trouble started before kenia monge went missing. trouble at this denver bakery, that is. the one where travis forbes rented space to bake his granola bars. somebody was pilfering money from the bakery cash register. owner monica poole was at first puzzled by the discrepancy, then gradually became sure there was a thief in the shop. fortunately, monica had allowed for the possibility of that sort of thing when she had surveillance cameras installed around the shop. so by now, a couple of days after kenia disappeared, she went to check the tape. to see if that would tell her who took the cash. but for some strange reason the recorder was unplugged. >> i plugged it back in, and i wound it back to the place to see who had unplugged it. >> reporter: it was travis forbes. turning off the system. so monica rewound the tape a little farther. but if she expected to see travis stealing, she got a surprise. it looked like he had been scrubbing. >> so as he's coming into the office with these gloves on his hand, they're not just like little gloves like you wear when you're handling food. they're cleaning gloves. rubber, latex, you know, the kind that -- yellow. go all the way up to your elbows. i thought what in the world's he wearing those for? >> reporter: monica stopped the tape and called the cops. who took a good look at the whole security system and found this intriguing scene of travis, this time with his granola bar cooler. >> he actually unloads the cooler, puts it on a little cart, and it's taped shut with black duct tape. and puts it into the freezer in the bakery. and there's employees walking around. >> reporter: detective gurule consulted monica. >> the police asked me did he store the cooler in the freezer? and i said no. he never puts it in the freezer. it has granola bars in it. >> reporter: all that. the cleaning, the cooler moving, happened two nights after kenia went missing. so detective gurule checked with several of the bakery's employees to see what else travis was up to that evening. >> he burns some stuff in a barrel. we found that barrel down the alley at the other end of the parking lot. and monica poole told one of the detectives, hey, that's my grease barrel. what's it doing down there? >> reporter: travis claimed he was using it to burn some moldy marijuana. the barrel was sent to the crime lab. >> we ran that for dna. we ran that for fingerprints. >> reporter: but nothing turned up. if there were any clues in that barrel, they had been burned. travis forbes, despite all his suspicious behavior and his strange story, was still just a person of interest. >> people do weird things in their normal life. how do we know that he's just not a weird guy? >> reporter: and then a few days later gurule's investigation turned up more surveillance video, which seemed to tell a whole new story because there was kenia with another man entirely. this caught the two of them in the lobby of an apartment building near the club where kenia had been drinking. was she going up to his place? well, if she was, she didn't stay long because a few minutes later kenia showed up in yet another surveillance video, weaving somewhat unsteadily across the lobby of a nearby hotel. and the way kenia was acting caught the attention of d.a. kerri lombardi. >> i think that from all the surveillance she was very obviously intoxicated. it was scary. she was someone that you would look at and think this is a victim waiting to happen. >> reporter: this according to family and good friends was not like kenia. she didn't drink to excess. she would never run off with a strange guy and leave her purse and phone and keys behind. in fact, when tony saw this video, he was convinced. kenia wasn't drunk. something was done to her. >> i absolutely believe 100% that she was slipped a date rape drug because everything that she did in that club that night was against anything that she's ever done before. >> reporter: gurule tracked down the young man from the apartment lobby, and he admitted dancing with kenia at the club and showing her his loft. but she left right away, he said. the video confirmed it. he was cleared. so that left only two possible suspects -- the mysterious man at the gas station and travis forbes. >> i did not. >> reporter: and apparently, travis was feeling the heat. >> i've -- man. >> reporter: so out of the blue he decided to go public. >> you know, the truth is all we have. >> reporter: he went on camera with a denver tv station. >> i mean, it's been two weeks. nobody's heard from her. there's been no trace of her. like it's -- it's surreal. i don't even know what to think of it. >> since you're a person of interest, let me ask you this. did you do something with her? >> no. >> did you kidnap her? >> no. >> did you sexually assault her? >> i did not. >> did you murder her? >> i did not. no. no. and you know, having that on you, you know, having that energy on you is very stressful. >> reporter: detective gurule was watching this, of course. but he focused as much on travis' actions as his answers. >> he lied. it was in his demeanor. it was in his body language. it was -- it was all there. >> man. i'm sorry that i -- that i was indifferent. that i didn't think anything. i didn't think anything. i didn't think she was going to disappear. >> when the reporter asked him -- >> did you murder her? >> i did not. no. >> he says "no." >> reporter: then as the interview was wrapping up, travis, who seemed to remember every little detail that night, had trouble recalling one small but rather critical fact. >> um. what's her name? >> kenia. >> kenia. yeah. >> and we were all watching. and we lost it. that was the only name in town. and i wanted to go talk to him about that interview. that was another time when she got down on her hands and knees and begged me not to go. and this time i didn't go. >> reporter: so tony and his family waited. let the investigation run its course, hoping, praying that kenia would walk in the front door safe and sound. and travis forbes remained free. not even aware, quite possibly, of what the detective and the d.a. were up to. >> we had a lot of conversations, and we did a lot of warrants. you know, we were poring through phone records and, you know, they continued to interview people constantly. we just were waiting for the one thing, something we could arrest him with. >> reporter: but even if they could arrest travis, first they had to find him. because not long after that tv interview travis forbes disappeared. >> coming up -- travis is gone. >> i put out a teletype saying you find any bodies, give me a call. >> and then -- another surprise. >> my lieutenant said, grab your search warrant for his dna. so i hop a plane that night. >> when "dateline" continues. he was the bogey man. and that's what we called him. everybody was looking over their shoulders, looking who was behind them, looking who -- they were afraid of him. as long as he was on the street. >> reporter: the bogey man was travis forbes. the last person known to have seen kenia monge alive before she disappeared. the man whose strange behavior had ramped up detective gurule's suspicions even though the evidence did not warrant an arrest. but now weeks after kenia vanished, gurule had two problems. kenia wasn't the only one who was missing. so was travis. >> he was gone. i couldn't find him anywhere. i was scrambling to find him. i was checking news. i put out a teletype online for law enforcement saying, you know, you find any bodies, give me a call. >> this guy was that dangerous in your mind, that there could be just more -- >> i was calling everybody. i wanted to find out where he was. >> reporter: days passed, then a week. no sign of travis. detective gurule was now working the case almost 24/7. even his wife was involved. >> there was nights where i'd jump out of bed and it would scare her. i'd jump out of bed, grab the phone and she's like, did you hear the phone ring? i'd say i'm leaving myself a message because i need to do this. he she said i'd talk in my sleep about it, kenia's name or travis' name. she said you're dreaming about this. >> you're obsessed. >> tenacious. >> reporter: kenia's family wasn't sleeping much either. >> i thought that she might have been like kidnapped and like put in the basement and like they weren't letting her get any contact with anyone. i had dreams and things i still felt like i had that sister connection, that she was just still here somewhere needing my like -- needing me to come help her, just save her and just bring her back home. >> were you thinking about it all the time? >> yeah. it's hard going from talking to someone every day and then not being able to talk to them anymore. it like breaks your heart. >> reporter: kenia's father tony made himself a public fixture on local media. but privately, he conducted his own very lonely investigation. >> i went dumpster diving. i was looking at trash cans for her body. up and down the alleys, all over. >> and yet you couldn't tell maria. >> i couldn't tell her. i could not share what i was feeling because that early in would have removed the only thing that right now everybody had. and that one thing that everybody had was hope. i was hoping that she would pop up and say here i am. but as time went by and she wasn't contacting anybody and -- i knew it was bad. >> reporter: he also knew that the key to finding kenia was finding travis forbes. the denver police had no idea where travis was, whether he was in hiding here in town or had left the city, left the state, left the country. he was just gone. wasn't much they could do. he was a person of interest but not officially a suspect. and then two weeks later out of the blue detectives got a call from austin, texas. >> and my lieutenant walked into the office and said, okay. i said what? she said austin p.d. just called our fugitive unit. we might have him in austin, texas. i'm like, what? >> reporter: travis, it turned out, had borrowed a car from an old girlfriend in colorado. when he didn't return it, she went to the police and filed a report. which more often than not would have led nowhere at all. except a policeman in austin with a little time on his hands decided to check up on an out of state license plate he just happened to notice. and discovered first the report for the missing car and then travis forbes. >> so my lieutenant said, grab your search warrant for his dna and head to texas. so i hop a plane that night. >> reporter: a few hours later gurule was face to face with travis forbes again. >> you know what? they sent me to texas because they think you're running to mexico. >> what would i do in mexico? >> he'd call me nash, i'd call him travis. it was similar to you and i just talking. i wasn't confrontational with him. if he asked me a question i'd give him an honest answer. one of the question he's asked is, what do you think of me? i said i think you're a creep. i think you're a jerk. i think you're a monster. >> how did he sfond that? >> he just looked at me and said, yeah, you're probably right. >> he said, am i a psychopath or a sociopath? and i was giving him what i thought he was. maybe he was testing me like i was testing him to see if i would give him an honest answer. and i would. >> you didn't fly all it way out here just to ask me some questions. >> well, actually, i did. did you do anything to her? >> no. >> did you hurt her? >> no. we never touched. >> at all? >> not even a hug. and i usually hug people. >> reporter: gurule questioned him for more than three hours. but travis stuck to his original story. >> so does she have sex with you? >> nash, i think at this point i -- my lawyer should be present. >> reporter: so travis refused to talk anymore. but he didn't have a choice about providing his dna. thanks to that warrant detective gurule brought from colorado. >> i'm going to swab the inside of your tongue. >> reporter: and though a stolen car charge seemed hardly enough to warrant extradition, it was in the end just enough. and a few weeks later travis was back in a colorado jail. >> i didn't want him in texas. i wanted him here. i wanted to have access to him. >> where you can continue the conversation. >> absolutely. >> reporter: but detective gurule was in for a big surprise. slippery guy that travis forbes. coming up -- the story moves on to another chapter. a different city. and another young woman. >> fort collins is a college town. and it has a lot of young women there. and they like to party. >> a suspected killer on the prowl and a grisly crime scene. >> we've kicked -- just kicked the door in and we're screaming for somebody. the upstairs is -- we're just calling for somebody to see if there's someone in the apartment. >> when "dateline" continues. you can always spot a first time gain flings user. ♪ ♪ at lowe's, with endless ways to organize what you need, you'll find some of the peace-of-mind you want. at prices you'll really want. start the year fresh at lowe's. shop lowe's store & save event now in-store and online. ♪ this is how we do it.. ♪ turns out, montell jordan knows how to do almost everything. and it turns out the general is a quality insurance company that's been saving people money for nearly 60 years. for a great low rate, and nearly 60 years of quality coverage, go with the general. every day in business brings something new. and nearly 60 years of quality coverage, so get the flexibility of the new mobile service designed for your small business. introducing comcast business mobile. you get the most reliable network with nationwide 5g included. and you can get unlimited data for just $30 per line per month when you get four lines or mix and match data options. available now for comcast business internet customers with no line-activation fees or term contract required. see if you can save by switching today. comcast business. powering possibilities. travis forbes was right where they wanted him, behind bars. they were holding him on suspicion of stealing a friend's car. not for kenya's disappearance. at least he was here in colorado. getting him back, how important was that to you? >> very important. i wanted to know where he was. >> and you wanted him in your town? >> yes. >> detective nashe was hoping to coax travis into telling what happened to 19-year-old kenya monae. by this time kenya had been missing several weeks. >> he was the person. we had eliminated pretty much everybody else. >> but just as detective was closing in on travis, as he geared up to pry out a confession, or at least evidence sufficient to lay a charge, he got a nasty little surprise. >> his friend dropped the charges on the stolen car. she was very adamant that he didn't do anything wrong. >> why did that happen? >> i would talk to her sometimes daily and she was his biggest supporter. >> she wouldn't believe that he was a dangerous guy? >> absolutely not. not the travis forbes she knows. there is no way that he did anything to kenya. >> but here was the problem. without the stolen car charge, there was no way to keep travis in jail. they had to let him go. deputy d.a. carey lombard ee was -- >> nervous. i was worried about what he would do. it was very stressful because i really wanted to be able to find her, and we really wanted to get some evidence that we could hold him on. >> at least vowed detective, they would not lose him, not again. >> we put surveillance on him for a couple days. and he went up to that area in keens burg. >> keens burg, that little town east of denver. >> he used his credit card and i had his bank records, so i saw that he swiped it at this gas station, so we went up there and got the surveillance tape and that's him trying to get gas. >> this was not travis's first trip to keenes burg. remember, he was tracked there soon after kenya disappeared. so what was he doing here? had he brought kenya out here? was there a body hidden somewhere on the high plains? >> deetives scoured the fields again and found nothing. and then he discovered travis was on the move again. this time he headed north 60 miles up the highway to his hometown. a team of under cover cops on his tail. >> we found out he was going to go to fort collins to stay with his dad. fort collins is a college town, and it has a lot of young women there, and they like to party. yeah, i was worried. >> it was now july 1st, exactly three months since kenya disappeared, and he had good reason to worry. >> our detectives are watching. he goes out to the bar district in fort collins and he's acting like a fool, jumping on people's cars, raising, just trying to get a lot of attention. >> so fort collins police, unaware that travis was the subject of a denver investigation, pulled him aside there in the bar district. had a little talk with him. nothing serious, no charges. just conversation. >> after they finished contact with him, our detectives go up and say, hey, we're watching him. he's a person of interest on our case. you might have heard of the case, explained the case to them. okay, okay, i'll let everybody know. >> denver police kept an eye on travis, hoping he might lead them to kenya's body. but he stayed at fort collins, crashed at his grandparents' case. so from an already overstretched police department, a decision. >> he was pretty much keeping a low profile. so we pull our surveillance. >> they couldn't know, of course, couldn't know what was coming. fourth of july, fireworks lit up the fort collins sky. and then early the next morning at an apartment complex, a fire of a different sort altogether. >> we kicked the door in, screaming for somebody upstairs. we're just calling for somebody to see if there is somebody in the apartment. >> oh, yes, there was someone in that building. and this much we can tell you. that someone was not travis forbes. 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>> she had been beaten severely and she didn't have any clothes on. >> lydia, as paramedics discovered, had also been raped. but that was president all that happened. >> once she got to the hospital it was a massive stroke. it was because of her injuries that she suffered the stroke. she was severely beaten. she was stomped. some of her injuries were indicative of a high-speed car crash. >> lydia was airlifted to an intensive hospital in denver. her sister esther got the news and rushed to the hospital. >> she was unrecognizable. when i first saw her, i couldn't believe it was her. i would look at her and nothing looked like her. and then she has a tattoo on her calf. i knew it was her. >> lydia's condition was critical, quite possibly even probably terminal. the doctors induced a coma and attempt to keepary her alive, stabilize her. >> her eyes were crushed in her eye sockets. her wrist was shattered. she had broken ribs, probably more than we even know. >> what's the emotion that comes with that? >> i didn't want to lose my sister. i wanted her in my life. what did we need to do to help her, to get her back to us? >> lydia was single, attractive, very popular. but now here she was raped and beaten, nearly burned to death in her own home. >> when somebody is beaten that severely, it just sounded very personal. so we thought for sure it was somebody that was in her inner circle that was close. it had to be somebody that she knew. >> so for the next two days, detective shackly combed fort collins checking with anybody who knew lydia. >> we had talked to ex-boy friends. we talked to who she dated. her family. crickets were chirping. >> crickets were chirping? >> crickets were chirping. it was who done it. everybody loved her. they couldn't imagine who would have done her. >> the fire scene left few clues. >> it was where the assault, sexual assault took place in her bedroom. it was so burned. could basically make out where the bed was. >> footprints, forensic evidence all up in smoke, or destroyed by something else discovered in the apartment. >> he did a really good job of cleaning up. he did quite the job with the bleach. >> bleach? the apartment still smelled of it despite all the smoke. but in spite of all that bleach, they did find microscopic evidence that the attacker left behind. his dna. >> and the majority of that dna was under lydia's fingernails, so no doubt she put up a fight. >> she was trying to defend herself. >> yeah. now lydia was continuing that fight, odds not good. >> she was not out of the woods is what the doctor kept telling us. every day i would ask him, are we out of the woods yet? no, we're not out of the woods yet, and out of the woods is life or death. the hardest thing is not knowing whether she was going to live or die, and if she was going to live, what kind of life was she going to have? >> and then three days after the attack, still no suspect, no leads, detective shackly heard about the man police talked to just a few days before lydia's attack. the one who was acting up in the fort collins bar district. and wasn't that the man that denver police had under surveillance? >> this possibly could be related. he's wanted for murder and he's in fort collins. i don't know, it could be a long shot, they may want to know about it. >> what did you think when you heard that? >> i thought, thank goodness, we have something we can maybe look into. >> so long shot, she figured, but detective shackly called detective gurule in denver. >> he used bleach. >> he was silent on the other end of the phone. he said, oh, my god. >> she said, what do you think? i think it's him. >> i get chills talking about it because it was quite the moment. >> who was travis forbes? a serial offender hunting women? was he hunting another even now? the due detectives were convinced of it. but as badly as they wanted to lock him away, they just did not have sufficient evidence. so travis was a freeman, roaming fort collins at will, and at night. 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>> i think deep inside she knew that her family was fighting for her. >> reporter: as if worrying about lydia's fragile condition wasn't enough, her family also feared the attack wasn't over. >> it was really scary. since we didn't know who had done this, i kept looking out of the hospital room and seeing if someone would come to finish the job. and so we had to keep her completely anonymous in the hospital. we had a code that we had to say to go see her. only family members and only ones that were listed. >> you were always kind of looking over your shoulder. >> definitely. >> reporter: lydia's family was quite unaware that police did have a prime suspect, travis forbes, who was also a suspect in the disappearance of a girl lydia's family had never heard of, kenia monge. >> the similarities were definitely the bleach. i don't know what it is about forbes, but he has an obsession with bleach, and we'd actually heard that from his past girlfriends as well, that he would obsessively clean his house with bleach. and there was bleach used in kenia's case as well. the fact they were both dark-haired, both pretty girls, around the same age, it was chillingly similar. >> reporter: but the truly frightening fact was that their suspect was still out there somewhere on the street at large, potentially targeting his next victim, and it would stay that way unless detectives could prove that the attacks were both the work of travis forbes. there was one possibility and really only one. sitting at the denver police crime lab were several swabs of travis's dna, which detective nash gurule had obtained when the two talked in texas. >> we needed that obviously quickly to compare it to what had been collected from lydia tillman when she was transported to the hospital. >> but she'd been sprayed with bleach and every -- and she'd been burned. i mean, was there actually any dna left? >> there actually was. it was pretty amazing. it's amazing how resilient dna is. >> reporter: so on a friday evening just four days after lydia's attack the dna found under her fingernail and the sample taken from forbes were taken to the colorado bureau of investigation for processing to see if they matched. >> i didn't sleep. i couldn't sleep. there was no way. it didn't really matter. i didn't care. and it was amazing because we had technicians at colorado bureau of investigation who had no necessary buy-in into this was but they were working around the clock as well because they knew what a big deal this was. >> reporter: 60 miles away in denver detective nash gurule was also awaiting those dna results, anxiously. but he was also angry. >> at myself. >> at yourself? why? >> thinking to myself, what else could i have done to prevent this? >> what other evidence could i have gathered that would have got him arrested? >> did i miss something that could have kept him there? i could have had something concrete to arrest him on. what did i miss? and i threw that around in my head. >> you take this stuff personally. >> this one i did. and i'm thinking to myself, is he that smart? is he that smart? >> reporter: and now forbes was out here, somewhere. friday night, dark now. it was warm in fort collins. a college town, remember. in the old town bar district young people gathered around favorite watering holes. plenty of young women, carefree, drinking, celebrating a weekend, unaware. unworried. but this time the police were watching because they were very worried. >> we had the surveillance set up on him over the weekend. we were not going to let him out of our sights. so we had teams that were rotating while we were waiting so we could actually make an arrest. >> reporter: all weekend surveillance teams followed forbes as he cruised the nightclub district. >> he had a bottle of whiskey he'd been carrying around with him all night. he didn't go into any of the bars. he basically just walked around and -- >> he was trolling. >> trolling. yeah. that's a good way to put it. >> reporter: late at night the undercover cops spotted travis following a young woman walking home alone. so without revealing the surveillance team one of the cops approached him, and travis gave him a fake name, called him travis kennedy. the officer let him go. but travis did not go home. and before very long began following a second woman. she appeared to be drunk. travis closed in. >> they're like, this guy's too much of a danger, we've got to figure out a way to get him off the street. so they ended up arresting him for false reporting, for giving a false name. >> reporter: in fact detective shaklee's husband was part of that surveillance team and actually put the cuffs on travis. >> what was it like when you two kind of got together to compare notes? >> it was pretty emotional. and it was actually an emotional phone call. he called me to let me know that -- i'm going to get emotional now. that he had taken him into custody and that he was off the streets. just some closure to five days of really scary, really scary for our community and our home. >> reporter: but there was a catch. when the cops arrested forbes for giving a false name, it was only a misdemeanor. without some new charge he'd be out on bail in no time. 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that's it. >> reporter: but travis wasn't talking anymore. so lee offered a radical idea. >> i called assistant d.a. lombardi, and i said make a deal. >> you wanted a deal? >> yeah. i don't care what it is. i said i don't care. you could take it down to manslaughter. i didn't care. just make a deal. let's just -- we just want kenia. >> we really couldn't -- i mean, we were getting there. we were still investigating. what i really wanted was for -- tell us where she was. so we could give closure to this family. >> reporter: but travis was now facing an attempted murder charge for the assault on lydia. and as his case started working its way toward trial, he sat silently, mute in his cell. especially when detective shaklee paid him a visit. >> he was looking at me like a caged animal. his eyes were huge. he -- it was really creepy. obviously, i wanted to talk to him. i wanted to get an interview with him and see if he would tell me something. and he immediately said, i'm not talking to you, get -- get out of here. >> reporter: but across town someone was communicating. after spending five weeks in icu lydia tillman was transferred to a local rehab hospital. a long, slow recovery began. >> hi, lydia. >> i showed her a video of my kids saying hello to her because they missed their aunt lydia. >> i want you to get better soon. >> and she got to the part where my 4-year-old started to talk. and she laughed and said hi, lydia. >> hi, lydia. >> it was the first time i got to see her laugh, and i went, she's got memory, she can laugh. >> reporter: but detective gurule's murder case against travis forbes and his search for kenia monge had both stalled, nearly five months after kenia vanished and still no sign of her. but one day he got a call from the crime lab, requesting another dna sample of travis for the fbi. >> i drove up there to get his dna. i walked in, laid down my recorder. he didn't want to talk to any of the detectives, in fort collins, anywhere. but he always talked to me. >> what's up, nash? why are you here? >> i am here because i have a warrant for you. >> reporter: for the next two hours, like a couple of old college chums, the two shot the breeze about philosophy and books and religion and of course kenia's case, about which travis remained evasive. >> i said, i've been here a long time, travis, i'm done. i'm done playing chess with you. you move one way, i move another way. i said i'm coming for you. i'm telling you that. i said the next time you see me i'll be charging you for murder. i said what do you want out of this? what exactly do you want out of this? >> i want to go to prison without being labeled as a sex offender. >> okay. what else? >> that's it. that's it. >> you'll confess to everything if you go to prison without being labeled a sex offender? is that what you're saying? you're man enough to say that? >> yes. yes. yes. that's what i'm saying. >> reporter: detective gurule was stunned. travis wanted to cut a deal? gurule used a little reverse psychology to make sure he meant it. >> i told him i think you're full of it, i don't think you're going to do this. i think you're going to back out. and i think you're spineless. and i think it's all about you, it's a game. i said i think you're going to pull out. he says, no, i won't. i said, travis, you do what you say you're going to do, i'll be the first one to shake your hand. >> he knew the fort collins authorities would buy in. so all he needed now were the crossed ts and dotted is. the legal formalities. >> i left the jail, went out to my car, and thought to myself, did i just hear this right or am i dreaming? i even played the recording back to myself. and i thought, wow. >> people just don't do that sort of thing. >> right. he's confessing to a murder without a body and without seeing the case. i've talked to my commanders, and they said never in the history of this police department has that ever happened. ever. >> reporter: finally, after frustrating months of knuckle-biting tension, disappearances, dead-end games of cat and mouse, detective gurule was about to get the answers he'd been searching for. and he was exhausted. to celebrate and rest up gurule decided to take a few days off with his wife. >> so we're driving out of town. i get a call and they say he pulled out. >> coming up, will he or won't he? >> i looked at her and i'm crying. i said, there's nothing more i could do. >> then the moment of truth. >> his whole demeanor changed. he let out this scream, just this blood -- it made me jump. i wasn't expecting it at all. >> when "dateline" continues. first time the other day... and forgot where she was. you can always spot a first time gain flings user. we're eating and drinking foods and beverages that are very acidic. it can soften the enamel. pronamel repair, what it's doing is driving more minerals deep into the enamel surface, that's going to help actively repair. pronamel is taking it to another level. 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and i looked at her, and i'm crying. i said, there's nothing more i could do. i got him there. i led him there. i led him to the trough. >> reporter: gurule and his wife went on their trip anyway, and for three long days he was left twisting in the wind once again by travis forbes. kenia's family knew nothing of this, still holding out hope that she was somehow alive. >> every time i was driving down the street and i seen a skinny little black-haired girl, i can't tell you how many accidents i've almost had trying to get around the corner to see who this little skinny black-haired girl is. there was still reports coming in of sightings of her. and you've got to turn in all these sightings because you don't know. >> reporter: but then something happened to travis forbes that weekend. he apparently had second thoughts about his own second thoughts. >> and when i got back on monday, i got a call and they said the deal's back on, it's being finalized, we should be able to be going next week. >> sometimes taking a weekend away is quite profitable. >> yes. the weight of the world just got lifted from me. >> the deal with travis was quite straightforward. no death penalty, no sex crimes charges. and in exchange he would give them a complete confession. what he did to kenia and lydia. and one more thing. he would show them exactly where kenia was. and so on a humid morning in september 2011 forbes found himself in a procession of police cars on a country road northeast of denver. investigators had been here many times before, searching the fields near the farm town of keenesburg looking for kenia. but this day travis had solemnly promised he was going to show them. trailing a car behind travis was d.a. kerri lombardi, nervous, anxious, and pessimistic. >> i was worried he wouldn't follow through. because i felt like he sort of liked this game, i thought. >> so on the way what were you thinking? >> will he do this? will he not? will something spook him? will he change his mind? is this a big farce? you know, i didn't know if, you know, there was even -- if we were even going to the right place. >> reporter: travis was in the lead car, which included detectives nash gurule and jaclyn shaklee. >> it was really quiet for the first five or ten minutes. he was sitting right next to me. i had an air cast on my foot because i had a running injury. he looked down and said what did you do to your foot? i said it's a stress fracture from running. >> reporter: and that got travis talking. about running marathons, movies, food. all sorts of things. >> and obviously we were talking about whatever he wanted to talk about to keep his cooperation. i have to remember that i have a monster sitting next to me and just playing it up. we had to get to that body. we wanted to know where she was and bring her home to her family. >> then we start getting closer, he starts getting a little more quiet. we drive out to the site. next to a little grove of trees. >> reporter: and then quite suddenly, no warning, something came over the cool and breezy travis forbes. >> he got out of the car, and his whole demeanor changed, and he let out this scream. just this blood curdling -- it made me jump. i wasn't expecting it at all. >> reporter: but just as quickly, travis pulled himself together and pointed. >> he says, she's over there. so we walk over there. and he's standing up on top of the hill, there's like a little ravine. he says, you're standing right on top of her. >> reporter: soon the digging began. >> and it was a very, very slow process. there was an anthropologist there. and so then they finally got the dirt off of her. and there she was. and it was pretty awful. i stood there, and of course had i stood there, and of course had seen these beautiful pictures of her. there's this smiling image in your head of her having a good time and smiling. and then to see that. it was very difficult. >> reporter: there was something else perhaps even more difficult that kerri lombardi had to do. >> i called tony lee and said, you know, that they had found a body where he had told us she was, we had found something. >> and i needed to let my family know before any of this hit the news. you can't prepare yourself or practice yourself for write down a speech for that day. and i had to tell her. >> what was that like? >> that was the hardest thing i've ever done. then i -- >> she had been hanging on to hope. >> she had been hanging on to hope. >> you had to finally -- >> i had to snatch that rug out from under her. and she lost it. and there was nothing i could do for her because i had already lost it myself. >> reporter: then tony had to tell his children. kenia's little sister and brother. >> and the first question out of both of their mouths at the different times, is she alive? and i had to tell them no. i couldn't do nothing for them. >> i just don't feel like it's fair that people get to grow up with their sisters but she was only there for a little bit of my life. like she won't be able to see like me grow up and get married or have kids, and i won't be able to see her grow up and get married and have kids. like we'll just never get to have that bond. >> reporter: but this most horrendous of days wasn't quite over. police still needed a complete confession from forbes on tape. >> we're driving back. i look back at him. he goes, hey, nash, i told you i'd tell you where she was. he goes, are you happy you found her? he goes, are you happy? and i said there's some questions that need to be answered. and i said once those questions are -- once those questions are answered, then i'll be happy. "all right, nash. i told you i'd do it. i told you i would do it." and i said, yes, you did. >> reporter: detective gurule sat down with travis for one last interview. after five long months out came the words he needed to hear. >> i killed her. i did not mean to kill her. i didn't pull over to kill her. i didn't pull over to rape her. none of that was in my head. none of it was premeditated. >> reporter: but then it all came out. travis told them how he spotted kenia on the street. how he raped her, how he strangled her, how he stuffed her in his cooler, drove around with the body in his white van for a whole day, then stored it in the bakery's freezer while he cleaned out his van with bleach and burned her clothes. and then early the next morning he buried her body near a clump of cottonwood trees. >> after we were done with our interview i walked up to him and stuck out my hand. i go, thanks. and he stood up, shook my hand, and he said, "i told you i would do it." i said, you did. he says, "you just wouldn't give up." and i looked at him, and i said, you're right. >> reporter: later that day travis also confessed to the attempted murder of lydia tillman. soon he would be sentenced separately for both crimes. but there was one last surprise coming. something no one saw coming. least of all travis forbes. coming up, as travis awaits sentencing, the woman who had beaten the odds made a stunning entry into the courtroom. >> to do what she did, she's a superhero in my eyes. >> when "dateline" continues. it's a thirteen-hour flight, that's not a weekend trip. fifteen minutes until we board. oh yeah, we gotta take off. you downloaded the td ameritrade mobile app so you can quickly check the markets? yeah, actually i'm taking one last look at my dashboard before we board. excellent. and you have thinkorswim mobile- -so i can finish analyzing the risk on this position. you two are all set. have a great flight. thanks. we'll see ya. ah, they're getting so smart. choose the app that fits your investing style. ♪♪ she was home now. after five long, horrible months. kenia monge was given a proper burial. >> we needed her home or we needed to know a place to where we at least could go and be with her every day. and that was either home or in a grave someplace. >> thank god that we have answers. not the answers exactly we want, but we do have answers now. and it still hurts. [ applause ] >> reporter: but as one family mourned, another had something remarkable to celebrate. lydia tillman was coming home. because of the stroke, speech was still practically impossible. but the fact she was walking at all truly amazing. some kind of miracle, said her doctor, rebecca bearden. >> i believe that lydia shouldn't have survived that day. she went through so much. and she probably shouldn't have made it. but she did. and it was because of her determination and her joy. >> reporter: soon after that at travis forbes' sentencing hearing lydia met kenia's family. >> i looked at lydia and wished it was kenia. i hate to say that. but i'm glad she was able to escape the monster. >> yeah. >> it was overwhelming, you know, to see the amount of her strength and her will to live. you know, and what she did during her court proceedings on the day that he was sentenced for what he did to her. >> reporter: what she did that day was simply amazing. hard to believe. sitting just feet away from the man who raped her, smashed her face and body, doused her with bleach, set her on fire, lydia tillman struck a blow against evil. she gave travis a gift. she forgave him. since she was unable to speak herself, her father read her statement for her, saying that to forgive is easier than holding anger. >> there wasn't a dry eye in that courtroom, including the judge. it's freeing for her. and i understand that. and i did the same. because we're not going to live in that hatred, in that -- that >> she's amazing. to do what she did and to endure what she went through, i couldn't imagine. i couldn't imagine. she is -- she's a superhero in my eyes. >> reporter: and then there was one more surprise. no, not travis's sentence, life in prison. that was merely a formality. it was another gift. this time from kenia to lydia. >> i start crying with her. she start crying with me. i felt very strong inside me like kenia was telling me mom, give her the ring, i was wearing it. it was kenia's ring. give it to her. >> it was kenia's favorite ring. >> i gave it to her and she was so happy. she said thank you, and she was holding me. and that moment i was holding her, it's like i was holding kenia. >> we are related in tragedy. we've got a connection with each other unfortunately for the rest of our lives, and -- because of travis. >> reporter: tony and his family built a memorial here on the high plains where kenia was found. and while she continues to live in their hearts, her loss has taken a toll. in 2018 tony and maria divorced, but tony still devotes himself to spreading awareness and warnings, and help. >> the story of kenia is what has created the kenia monge foundation. we go to the families of the missing and reach out to them, and they are very grateful. >> and lydia tillman, we saved this surprise for last. lydia worked very hard to recover. >> try this one. >> and to speak. >> stimuli. >> stimuli. >> nice. try yesterday. lydia has -- she's rocked my world. >> dr. jill armour. >> i think lydia has the ability to make a full recovery, and i think she's tenacious and perseveres enough that she may just well do that. >> and so a proper introduction. just ten months after the attack that nearly took her life, lydia tillman spoke in her own words. people were amazed you survived at all frankly. >> yeah. i am amazed, too. >> what has been, in the long recovery process, the most difficult thing to do? >> re-learning how to speak was still difficult. >> yes. >> i am trying to find a balance between my ambitions and my still-healing body and brain. >> yeah. so, where were you in the process of getting better when travis went to court to plead guilty and be sentenced? >> i am -- was just out of rehab. the hardest day of my life. >> really? >> to forgive him is -- it was super difficult. >> how could you do that after what he did to you? >> to heal myself, rather than being angry -- >> because that would not help you? >> yeah. >> you harbor no bitterness, no -- >> rarely, i get mad. i believe travis forbes was acting out of fear and hatred. i choose love and peace over fear -- fear. and i won. >> so she did. and then she said with that big infectious smile on her face that she brought a gift for me. >> it's a bracelet. it's on -- >> may i open it? >> yes. an acronym for my name. >> ah. >> it says live your days inspired anew. >> which, of course, spells lydia. there is great sadness surrounding the story of travis forbes. unending sadness for kenia's family. for the unknown other families who, as many now suspect, may have been victimized by his past behavior. and then from that darkest place came the indomitable lydia who forgave, who won, who told us, live your days inspired anew. this sunday, january 6th, one year later. it was a violent effort to overturn a free and fair election. >> the deadly siege on congress as an angry pro-trump mob storms the u.s. capitol. >> behind the violence, former president trump's big lie of a stolen election. >> this is a fraud on the american public. we were getting ready to win this election. frankly, we did win this election. >> as he tried to reverse the results -- >> i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.

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