reporter: for the next two hours, like a couple of old college chums, the two shot the breeze about philosophy and books and religion and of course kenia s case, about which travis remained evasive. i said, i ve been here a long time, travis, i m done. i m done playing chess with you. you move one way, i move another way. i said i m coming for you. i m telling you that. i said the next time you see me i ll be charging you for murder. i said what do you want out of this? what exactly do you want out of this? i want to go to prison without being labeled as a sex offender. okay. what else? that s it. that s it. you ll confess to everything if you go to prison without being labeled a sex offender? is that what you re saying? you re man enough to say that? yes. yes. yes. that s what i m saying. reporter: detective gurule was stunned. travis wanted to cut a deal?
hi, lydia. it was the first time i got to see her laugh, and i went, she s got memory, she can laugh. reporter: but detective gurule s murder case against travis forbes and his search for kenia monge had both stalled, nearly five months after kenia vanished and still no sign of her. but one day he got a call from the crime lab, requesting another dna sample of travis for the fbi. i drove up there to get his dna. i walked in, laid down my recorder. he didn t want to talk to any of the detectives, in fort collins, anywhere. but he always talked to me. what s up, nash? why are you here? i am here because i have a warrant for you. reporter: for the next two hours, like a couple of old college chums, the two shot the breeze about philosophy and books and religion and of course kenia s case, about which travis
breeze about philosophy and books and religion and of course kenia s case, about which travis remained evasive. i said, i ve been here a long time, travis, i m done. i m done playing chess with you. you move one way, i move another way. i said i m coming for you. i m telling you that. i said the next time you see me i ll be charging you for murder. i said what do you want out of this? what exactly do you want out of this? i want to go to prison without being labeled as a sex offender. okay. what else? that s it. that s it. you ll confess to everything if you go to prison without being labeled a sex offender? is that what you re saying? you re man enough to say that? yes. yes. yes. that s what i m saying. reporter: detective gurule was stunned. travis wanted to cut a deal? gurule used a little reverse psychology to make sure he meant it.
i walked in, laid down my recorder. he didn t want to talk to any of the detectives, in fort collins, anywhere. but he always talked to me. what s up, nash? why are you here? i am here because i have a warrant for you. reporter: for the next two hours, like a couple of old college chums, the two shot the breeze about philosophy and books and religion and of course kenia s case, about which travis remained evasive. i said, i ve been here a long time, travis, i m done. i m done playing chess with you. you move one way, i move another way. i said i m coming for you. i m telling you that. i said the next time you see me i ll be charging you for murder. i said what do you want out of this? what exactly do you want out of this? i want to go to prison without being labeled as a sex offender. okay. what else? that s it. that s it.
college chums, the two shot the breeze about philosophy and books and religion and of course kenia s case, about which travis remained evasive. i said, i ve been here a long time, travis, i m done. i m done playing chess with you. you move one way, i move another way. i said i m coming for you. i m telling you that. i said the next time you see me i ll be charging you for murder. i said what do you want out of this? what exactly do you want out of this? i want to go to prison without being labeled as a sex offender. okay. what else? that s it. that s it. you ll confess to everything if you go to prison without being labeled a sex offender? is that what you re saying? you re man enough to say that? yes. yes. yes. that s what i m saying. reporter: detective gurule was stunned. travis wanted to cut a deal? gurule used a little reverse psychology to make sure he meant it. i told him i think you re