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mississippi, and tennessee. one of the strongest tornados potentially traveled over 200 miles. this from arkansas to kentucky. let's give you a look at the absolute devastation in mayfield, kentucky. that is one of the hardest hit areas where at least 70 people are believed to be dead in just kentucky alone. officials say the final figure, though, could end up being closer to 100. we are awaiting an update from kentucky governor andy beshear earlier this morning. he spoke about the damage in mayfield. >> this will be, i believe, the deadliest tornado system to ever run through kentucky. the damage is even worse now that we have first light. a couple of places have been hit incredibly hard, certainly mayfield here in graves county, but everywhere along the line of this tornado that touched down and stayed down for 227 miles, over 200 in kentucky has been severely and significantly impacted. >> here's another look at just how damaging that storm was overnight in mayfield, kentucky. last hour i spoke with a storm chaser who described the scene. >> there's just debris everywhere, and it's going to take a long time to get it cleaned up. it just scatters for miles and miles and across all of the roads there's power lines down everywhere. >> and take a look at this video, it's of a tornado that hit an amazon facility in illinois. the roof of the building was ripped off and a 100 foot portion of a wall collapsed. as of today, here's what it looks like, at least two people have died and multiple others have been injured there in edwardsville. it's about 20 miles or so away from st. louis. damaging and devastating scenes also all across arkansas, missouri, and tennessee with multiple deaths being reported across those states. joining us now, ksdk reporter ryan henson in edwardsville, illinois, and nbc meteorologist michelle grossman with a welcome to you both, ryan, we're going to start with you. what's happening right now where you are? >> reporter: crews still digging through that rubble, digging through the debris trying to find more people who are still unaccounted for. ever since last night, first responders and other crews with heavy machinery have been coming over to the lot where this amazon building or what's left of it still remains looking for people who are still unaccounted for. it's been devastating for this town of edwardsville, illinois, which is a suburb of st. louis, missouri. so all that's missing that you see right there, it's supposed to be a length of a football field. that was knocked down last night. the roof ripped off of that building right there, and what you see here is pretty much the only thing standing because on the other side we're told it's even worse. you can see through some of the building that's still standing are right here. we do have two confirmed fatalities, that's absolutely heartbreaking news. several other people were injured to varying degrees whether they were just checked out here on the scene or flown to the hospital in the st. louis area for more extensive medical coverage right there. so people are still trying to figure out exactly who's missing and those folks who are still unknown. it's hard because some folks did leave on their own accord. they're guesstimating roughly 50 people were in the building at the time. we're going it hear from one amazon employee right now. >> the front corners of the building was still intact. but the back corner of the building onto the right side was caved in. so i waited in my van around like 30 minutes and then they told us to come inside so like a tornado shelter area, and from the tornado shelter area you could kind of see into the warehouse. so from the position i was in, the back corner where i usually check in and grab my bag and stuff like that, keys for the van, all of that was caved in. that bathroom was gone. >> reporter: so here's a statement from amazon. we're deeply saddened by the news that members of our amazon family have passed away as a result of the storm in edwardsville, illinois. our thoughts and prayers are with the victim and their loved ones, and everyone impacted by the tornado. we also want to thank all the first responders for their ongoing efforts on the scene. we're continuing to provide support to our employees and partners in the area. and first responders from across the region still here on scene, whether that be fire, ems or police just trying to conduct traffic. a lot of amazon employees still out here at the scene coming to check on colleagues that they haven't heard from or just look at the destruction themselves. the illinois governor, jamie pritzker has already reached out to the mayor of edwardsville offering state support and the mayor of edwardsville has already told folks this cleanup process could last a couple of days. >> okay. >> some of the obstacles that we've faced, our first responders have faced since the beginning of this initially, there was a large amount of water issues there because of the fire suppression system as well as power lines that needed to be secured before first responders could actually get into the rubble. responded and was able to secure those items, and then we had to also request additional assistance from other companies to secure the concrete and the structure there to make it safe for the first responders to go into the site and conduct their searches. >> reporter: so they're dealing with a lot of hazards out here as you heard. it's still pretty windy out here. they cut the utilities off inside the building. we're supposed to get another update. there's a press conference scheduled for 4:30 central time, and we'll have updates for you then. >> ryan henson from ksdk, thank you so much for keeping track on things there. let's bring in nbc meteorologist michelle grossman. so michelle, what 12 million more still at risk of severe weather today. >> yeah, hi there, alex. the good news with that statement is we're not expecting what we saw last night. we have a really powerful cold front moving through, warm and humid air mass. we could see some strong storms, but mainly it's going to be some winds, it's going to be ferocious rains with flooding. not what we saw last night. this was really unusual. from a meteorology standpoint, it was historical, it was devastating, it was destructive. from a humanity aspect it was so sad and just really, really unusual. unusual in terms of the power, the strength, unusual for this time of year. unusual for the location. it was so far north, normally these places we're talking about snow cover on the ground, not a super cell tornado. let's take a look at the tornado outbreak in terms of numbers. over 30 tornado reports. that doesn't mean tornados. that means reports. so one tornado can cause several reports through cities and towns. this is where the survey team goes in. they look at the damage, and then they're going to issue those statements and numbers for us. it's going to take a long time. in terms of that tornadic super cell we're talking about that moved through mayfield, we're looking at 250 miles it tracked. whether it kind of lifted off the ground, it may not have stayed on the ground the whole time, but it's a long track no matter what. typically we see these storms track a quarter mile, a half, even up to five miles, but 250 miles. it's being called the quad state tornado. it started in arkansas, moved through missouri, tennessee, and eventually into kentucky where it caused all that massive damage. let's talk about the timing because the national weather service did a really good job. they issued reports or notices two days in advance. that included the storm prediction center, you know, kind of saying that there's going to be an enhanced risk of severe storms. that was on thursday. yesterday they bumped it up in the morning hours, the afternoon hours to an enhanced risk, moderate risk, excuse me. that's one of the higher risks, four out of five on the scale. now we saw that first tornado warning at 5:50 p.m., so the sun started to set. we're talking about nocturnal tornados, that super dangerous, the dark of night, you can't see anything until the lightning strikes. then it tracked through missouri, tennessee, and kentucky. in terms of mayfield, we saw that tornado watch issued three hours in advance. there was a heads-up. and then that tornado warning was issued at 9:05. 25 minutes before it actually moved through the town. that's where you hear the sirens, the bells, you get those alerts on your phones. that's where people go to their safe place, and that's hopefully what most people did. then by 9:27, we had a tornado emergency that was issued. we don't see this often. it's very rare, very unusual, and we had eight of those last night, and that's relatively new. these started being issued a few years ago and what it really means is there's a life-threatening weather event headed your way, and that was three minutes before it did make impact. you know what, the unfortunate news is no matter what sometimes an ef-4, which this may end up being, maybe even an ef-5 is unsurvivable no matter where you are in your safe place. and then we continued to watch this over the next several hours, that last warning at 12:20 a.m. this was a really long event, sad to watch all the destruction. you sort of knew when you looked at radar and you saw the debris fields, 30 miles long, even 20,000 feet up into the air where the jets fly, 30,000 feet. that's how high the debris was being sucked up into the air. that's what we watched for four or five or six hours. so in terms of this scale, we don't know yet. this is pure speculation. it's going to take a long time for survey teams to go in. they're going to look at damage. what we do think it could certainly be an ef-4 and maybe an ef-5 because some of the radar returns, the velocity returns were registering at 250 miles per hour. that's what we're going to watch over the next several days. you hear joplin, missouri, they kind of evoke that sadness. you know what happens there. mayfield is going to be one of them. so alex, it has been since 2013 since we've seen that. that was the longest streak of 3,000 days. ere we'll certainly keep you updated on this. >> extraordinary information and perspective. let's go to storm chaser brandon clement south of mayfield in kentucky. that's where the governor says as many as 100 people may have died. we're going to show our viewers the video of devastation that you shot today in mayfield. tell us where you are now and what you've been seeing. >> right now i'm in wingo, which is just south of mayfield. i had to come down here to get some cell data and cell capability. i posted video and different pictures and stuff, but i've been in mayfield most of the morning, and over the early morning hours and late overnight hours, pulling into town was just -- you knew right away even though there was no power, no lights, i could kind of get a little sense of lighting. i knew right away we're looking at at least an ef-4, just the way that the trees are sheared off, right there next to the road, it's a really good indicator. so i knew what we were going to see this morning was going to be really bad, but no matter how much you try and prepare yourself for it, once you do see it and i put the drone up at first light this morning, it just blew my mind the amount of destruction and the way this tornado was able to dissect this town basically right down the middle. couldn't have split it down the middle any specific highway any more than this tornado did. it's catastrophic for the town. >> yeah, yeah, even though you're a professional storm chaser and you've seen this kind of devastation before certainly, how does this compare to what you've previously seen as you've been out chasing storms, and also, tell me about the tornado you saw apparently up close in missouri last night? >> yeah, this is the same storm, most likely the same tornado, picked up along the mississippi river. this was right across interstate 55 along the missouri, arkansas line. it crossed interstate in front of me. i was able to watch it for quite a while, it's a really large tornado. there was a lot of power flashes going on, luckily it avoided some of the more populated areas. it did do a lot of damage in leadsville, arkansas, and then it moved up into kentucky, and then it just really started going wild, especially around mayfield. i know once we get northeast of here there's going to be some similar type damage. when you look at it, right away it reminds me of a lot of the higher end ef-4 tornados, perhaps a little bit stronger. i feel really confident saying that this will end up being a high end ef-4 with consideration going to a 5. >> that certainly -- that's the speculation you might have heard our meteorologist saying that's what they're believing it will be. of course it's not confirmed yet, just speculation, but your professional expertise is adding to that. let me ask you what goes through your mind when you see a tornado that powerful, that massive that is rolling by you. >> i'd like to say it's no big deal, i've done it a ton. it's not. it's just the opposite. no matter how many times you do it, you know that you have to be at the height of your senses, the height of your game to get that close to understand your situation, have a high situational awareness to understand what you're doing. so while i don't feel in danger or didn't feel in danger last night, i knew i was close but i knew i was also safe. the one thing about this storm is it took a remarkably straight path. it was just -- it was no wobbles. it was moving too fast to wobble. it was just going really fast in a straight line. there wasn't any surprises to it. it was well illuminated by lightning, wasn't rain wrapped. the terrain i was in was really flat with no trees. everything's set up to be able to do a close -- at night, which i normally don't do. it was a lot better than a lot of daytime chases. i actually intercept tornados in the daytime and don't get as clean a look at the tornados. >> can i ask you, is there any difference between a daytime tornado and a nighttime tornado other than the terror that must be felt by something coming that you cannot see but for that lightning kind of illumination that you talked about? >> yeah, in the fall and winter time in the deep south we see these high shear, where there's not a lot of energy, but there's a lot of wind, and it doesn't take much to spin up a tornado and you get lightning. that's horrific. it's completely pitch black, you can hear it, all your other senses take over, but you can't see it. and all of a sudden you'll see power flashes to give you an idea where it is. this one was not that way. once it gets into the terrain here in kentucky where they have trees and people don't know what they're looking for and don't really understand exactly where the tornado would be inside the thunderstorm, i know it's truly terrifying for them, especially people that are already scared of weather. i talked to one lady last night who brought her son up to admire the weather and not be scared of it. they huddled together as their house got torn apart and it's just like -- all that training got wiped out in 30 seconds. he's going to be terrified for weather for the rest of his life. >> yeah, well, you know, for good reason given the devastation we're looking at here. brandon clement, thank you so much for your perspective, sharing your video with us. i'm so glad you're safe. that video would lead someone to believe that you might not be. thank you for your time. the growing threat along ukraine's border with russia, if putin invades, how will america react? some insights from a member of congress next. insights from a f congress next. ♪ superpowers from a spider bite? i could use some help showing the world how liberty mutual customizes their 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>> i think he's doing what he needs to do. what we need is we need to make it clear to russia that the consequences of such an invasion will be higher than they want to pay. the only way to do that is work with our allies on economic sanctions. we can sanction russia in a variety of different ways. in particular what we're talking about here is going after the oligarchs, the people who putin is most dependent upon for his support. look, it does not appear that putin cares that much about what happens to the russian people. he does care what happens to the oligarchs who are dependent upon their money and who support him. find ways to cut that off. we need allied support for that. you know, for instance, if germany was willing to say if you go in, the pipeline is dead. that sends a very strong message, and yes, also we need to continue to provide military equipment to ukraine to give them the best support they can to repel that invasion want the key, i think, is the economics and is building that allied support. that is what president biden and his team are focused on right now. >> okay. so economic sanctions, providing support, supplies and the like, but there's no chance of u.s. boots on the ground if they were to invade? >> president biden has said that and we've been very clear, we are not in a position to stop russia militarily head to head, and i would not support u.s. military u.s. intervention in ukraine. i do not support going to war with putin in eastern europe with u.s. troops. i support working diplomatically and with our allies to try to discourage putin from doing that, and i believe that we can. if we were to start sending signals that we're sending troops, in some ways that would prompt putin to act more quickly. there is a fine line between deterrence and provocation. putin's big thing is he believes he should be the one controlling, you know, eastern europe. certainly the former republics of the ussr. it shouldn't be falling to the west. what we support is we support ukraine making their own choice. the degree to which we look like we're sending u.s. military in there that could potentially provoke putin to act more quickly. >> should ukraine become part of nato? vladimir putin has said flat out he does not want that to happen. why should nato listen to him? >> well, that's the reason i said, well, i mean, look, to be practical about this, in america we have this belief we should stand up to people, no one should tell us what to do. you should be able to get along with people in the world. we don't want a full on war in eastern europe. it's not that we have any sympathy for putin or the way he has approached governing russia or interacting with the worl. we don't want a war. like i said, to the extent that it looks like the former, you know, soviet socialist republics and even parts of eastern europe are pushing away from russia ask aligning with the west, that could potentially provoke russia, also said they should be free to make their own choices. nato is a broader issue. right now i think trying to bring ukraine into nato at this point is very dangerous thing to do. we want to discourage warfare. we're trying to figure out how to calm tensions, not to provoke them and escalate them. >> a very tempered statement, which i appreciate. let's move on to the compromise defense authorization bill that was passed by the house this week. 51 of your democratic colleagues voted against that bill, an article in roll call describes the final bill as, quote, in some ways a victory for the gop and a disappointment to progressives. do you see it that way? and what is your message to your democratic colleagues who are disappointed? >> >> first of all, i love statistics. 51 of my democratic colleagues voted against the bill. you know what that means, don't you? that means that 170 of them voted for it. >> clearly you're a glass half full kind of guy. >> forget half, alex, do the math there. how much bigger is 170 than 50? >> 3/4 plus, yeah. >> that's like 80% full. >> yeah. >> look, i mean, there are some folks on the left of our party who don't think we should ever pass the defense bill. they don't want to vote for it. they never do. mostly they're focused on the top line number. i do try to point out to folks that the defense authorizing bill doesn't actually spend the money, that's the appropriate ers. they think we spend too much money on defense, that's fine. frankly, i would prefer a lower top line number myself. we had 170 democrats supporting this bill. i mean, i think it shows clearly that it was a bill that democrats supported, overwhelmingly. you don't get unanimity on much of anything around d.c. as you know, and also, we had truly transformational change on how we deal with sexual assault in the military. we take the prosecution of sexual assault away from commanders and give it to a special victims prosecutor. set up a whole new office that will have all sex crimes, anything related to sex crimes, all crimes against children will now be handled by a special victims prosecutor and outside the chain of command. this is something that progressives have been pushing for for better than a decade. something that republicans have stood up against for a long time. got it passed, got it in the bill. so look, the overwhelming democratic support for this bill shows just how strong it is. >> you anticipated my next question, something that new york senator kirsten gillibrand has been a long advocate of. let's take a listen to what she had to say about this. here it is. >> i watch particularly the good work done by the members on this stage to ensure that provisions on prevention and provisions to help survivors of sexual assault be included in this year's ndaa. while there's no doubt that those are important advances, this bill does not reform the military justice system in a way that will truly help survivors get justice. it does not remove serious crimes out of the chain of command. >> so your response to that, particularly that last part? >> yeah, we took murder, manslaughter, kidnapping, and all sexual offenses outside the chain of command. i think those were pretty serious crimes and we took them out. senator gillibrand and i have talked about this a long time. she favors a different approach. number one, she does not favor or has not favored in my conversations with her setting up a special victims prosecutor for sexual assault crimes. what she favors doing is taking all non-military crimes out of the chain of command. so all of them. and, you know, frankly, we've had these conversations over eight or nine months. i kind of see the wisdom of that approach. i mean, ultimately as i was negotiating with a variety of different other people who have to support this to get it passed, there were two things that really drove my ultimate support for what we came up with. number one, i think there should be a special victims prosecutor. senator gillibrand has articulated a concern about a court that will stigmatize these crimes. personally, i think we need to pay more attention to sex crimes in the military and not less. i think it's important to have a special victims prosecutor. i don't think the stigma will make it worse, i think the focus will make it better. we disagreed on that. that was sort of one of the big things. the second thing was we did not actually have the support to take -- to support to take all non-military crimes out. i worked with my committee. i worked with a variety of different people. i didn't see a path to actually passing a bill to do what it was senator gillibrand was talking about. they couldn't even move a bill off the floor of the senate. this is what we could accomplish, and it's huge for sm victims of sexual assault, and personally i think it's better for victims of sexual assault than the all non-military offenses approach because it gives us a special victims prosecutor and it actually focuses directly on sexual assault. senator gillibrand's approach as she pointed out was just all non-military crimes. okay? and maybe there's a case for that, but i'm really focused on the sexual assault piece of this. we've gotten outstanding support from our approach of a variety of different victims groups including vanessa guillen's family. i think the exact quote was her family's finally sleeping more peacefully knowing that something is being done. >> yeah, as you say it sound like a huge step forward at the very minimum, but even a lot more than that. washington congressman adam smith, always good to talk with you. thank you so much. a new warning from the chief justice of the supreme court about texas abortion law. that story ahead. but first, the former head of the fda joins me with some critical answers about where the pandemic is headed next and how dangerous omicron really is. s o. 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how much is still unknown? >> it is, alex, shaping up to be a hard winter. we've already got a huge number of cases from delta. more than a thousand deaths a day, more than 800,000 people killed by right now in this country, and we've got flu season that appears to be starting, and it is inevitable that omicron is going to spread widely. that that's what's happening in the uk, it's here. it's spreading around the world. what we don't know yet is whether your vaccination can protect you from severe disease with omicron. it does appear likely that that will be the case for most people. get fully vaccinated, get boosted the moment you're eligible, and that is your best protection. we also need to mask up indoors again when lots of people are together. if you're concerned because you're older or your immune system is weaker or you live with someone in one of those groups, then you may want to up your mask game ask use an n95 mask particularly if people around you aren't masking. and finally, alex, it's a risk benefit issue. you have to decide what's important to you, a really important family gathering you're going to go for it. are there things you're going to say not this year. >> absolutely. yes, you can get vaccinated, yes, you can get boosted and all of that. i know that the new york governor kathy hochul, she has said everybody has to be wearing their mask when you go inside. you can have proof of vaccination, but you've got to wear your masks indoors now. there are a lot of people that have mask fatigue, but you're saying now is not the time to demonstrate on that? >> just something as simple as wearing a mask over your nose and mouth could save someone else's life. and yeah, none of us like to wear masks. it's uncomfortable. we'd rather not. but our freedom to breathe indoors in a space where covid is spreading without a mask, really that's not more important than somebody else's freedom to live. >> yeah, absolutely. let me just say when it's cold outside, i personally enjoy wearing a mask. it keeps my face warm, so you know, just think about that, folks. let's talk about cdc director rochelle walensky who said this week that 99% of the cases in the country are from the delta variant. that we are still bracing for omicron, of course, but what's the latest not only on how effective the current set of vaccines and boosters are against omicron? i mean, how much longer is it going to take until we know? is it a time game? is it a numbers game? when will we know? >> we're learning more literally hour by hour, just yesterday, the united kingdom produced some data that shows for omicron, the vaccine that they're using in other parts of the world, the astrazeneca vaccine, doesn't seem to provide protection against infection, whether it provides protection against severe disease still to be seen and the pfizer vaccine, that immunity against infection wanes quickly, within a couple of months. but a booster brings that right back up again. the big unknown is whether the vaccines are going to protect you and how well and who against severe infection and death. and undoubtedly they're going to provide some protection. how much we don't yet know. the more people get vaccinated the safer everyone is, the sooner people get boosted, the safer you will be. >> and just this week, you mentioned astrazeneca, pu but the issue -- the fda did this, issuing that emergency authorization for its covid antibody treatment, and that could provide the long-term prevention for immunocompromised americans. in your mind, how significant is this? >> everything helps, right? we need a multilayered approach. vaccination is the most important. masks next most important, avoiding super spreading events is important. increasing ventilation is important, testing so that you can find out who's infected and treatment. there are treatments that are going to reduce the risk of both infection and disease, and for those at greatest risk or soon after disease comes on, those treatments are going to become more widely available, and they can have an impact. nothing is going to be as effective as the vaccine and masks have a crucial role as well. >> a story came out about chewing gum and how there are proteins within that that might help prevent transmission. what are your thoughts on that story? where did it come from and how legitimate is it? >> i think there's a lot that people want to do to protect themselves, to protect their health. one thing you can do is get regular physical activity. that boosts your immune system. another thing you can do is make sure you're getting enough vitamin d. most people in this country don't. that means getting sun, eating whole milk or other things that have vitamin in it or taking a supplement with 500 or a thousand units a day. there are lots of things you can do to boost your immune system. let's wait for the proven things. we know that vaccines, masks, testing, ventilation this all works. let's focus on what works. >> you're not suggesting pick up a pack of chewing gum at the checkout stand there at the grocery store, not yet? >> not yet. haven't seen the data that would convince us to recommend that as a public health measure. >> thank you so much for your time, sir, appreciate you. more subpoenas, new names, the latest steps being taken by the january 6th special committee. mmittee. 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