>> bombshell reporting from reuters. a kanye west publicist pressured a georgia election worker to confess to bogus election fraud two days before january 6th. >> i cannot say what specifically will take place. i just know that it will disrupt your freedom. >> tonight what this revelation means for the investigation of donald trump's coup attempt and what it means for the ongoing march to undermine democracy. then what we learned from the alarming supreme court decision on the texas abortion ban and why there's genuinely good news on the vaccination drive in a place you might not expect, when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. they attempted a coup. we use that word a lot on this show to describe donald trump's attempts to stay in power following the 2020 election. we use coup. we use it in scripts and graphics and banners that you see on the bottom of your tv. when we first started calling it that, and we made a choice to do so. when we first started after january 6th, it sounded provocative, i think. coup is not a term you throw around lightly when you're talking about the united states of america. by definition, a coup is a sudden, illegal, often violent seizure of power from a government, and it's something that happens all around the world in other countries. some examples, places like chile in 1973 or bolivia in 1971, it's happened in turkey, pakistan and on and on and on. but the way that we think about a coup is that it doesn't happen here. not here in what is supposed to be the beacon of democracy throughout the world. and there was some initial debate about what exactly a coup is. does it need to involve the military and wasn't this technically an auto coup because trump was trying to cement his existing control and stay in power. but all the semantic hair splitting sort of avoids the fact that we don't have a better word. there's no better way to describe what happened. donald trump and his allies did everything they possibly could, tried every possible avenue, to overthrow a democratic election and install an authoritarian ruler in defiance of the people's will. and there is no real precedent for it in american history. i mean even fort sumpter, a violent secession that began the civil war in 1861 in certain ways more violent and more jarring and started an era of horrific violence. but even that isn't quite what this was. what this was has never happened before. and it wasn't a contested election. it wasn't even bush v. gore which you might say was, well, sort of legally purloined. it was an attempted coup. this fact that they tried a coup has not sufficiently sunk into either public or elite consciousness. and that is in part because the people who planned it and carried it out were in many ways incompetent. donald trump, despite his many dangers, is comically inept. but just because he did not succeed in overthrowing american democracy does not mean he did not try. what he and his collaborators and cronies were trying to do at each and every turn had a unified strategic purpose. they weren't just randomly trying stuff, they were trying to find the weakest link in the chain of democratic transfer to break it. and they kept trying each different link in the chain. the most recent one involving an employee of the rapper kanye west who now wants to be known as ye showing at the doorstep of the fulton county, georgia, election worker named ruby freeman to threaten her into confessing to some completely bogus election fraud charges. her outrageous and menacing threats were captured on police body cam. i'm going to play them for you in just a minute. but before that, and before we get to that story, which i honestly can't believe i just said the words that i said, it's just worth stepping back and just looking at all the ways that donald trump previously tried to overthrow the election in just the state where this took place, just one state, georgia. let's just focus on that. so first there was the audit of ballot signatures in cobb county which came after immense pressure from donald trump. in fact in the press conference announcing that audit, georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger conceded it was in direct response to trump's ongoing bogus claims of fraud. quote, now that the signature matching has been attacked, again and again with no evidence, i feel we are need to take steps to restore confidence in our elections. of course the audit didn't find anything nefarious. but that did not stop then white house chief of staff mark meadows from traveling to georgia to oversee it. and it is unclear exactly what expertise meadows would bring to an operation like that other than lending these wild conspiracy theories legitimacy of the white house which was the real objective. an objective that was also on display when trump personally called georgia's republican governor, brian kemp, on december 5th of last year. trump wanted to pressure him to call a special legislative session to override the results of the election in his state. think about that. just throw out the votes of the voters of georgia, appoint new electors that would keep trump in office despite the fact the voters of georgia voted to not do that. and then when that did not work, he moves to the next link in the chain. he made the now infamous call to the georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger, where he threatened him to try to get him to overthrow the will of the voters. >> the ballots are corrupt. and you're going to find that they are, which is totally illegal. it's more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know what they did and you're not reporting it. that's, you know, that's a criminal -- that's a criminal offense. and you can't let that happen. that's a big risk to you and to ryan, your lawyer. that's a big risk. so, look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state. >> you hear that? that sort of weird combination of wheedling and pleading and menace. you're going to be criminally liable and just cough up one more vote than we need. that happened on january 2nd. that's four days before congress was set to certify the election. also notable in that call was this exchange where trump disparages a u.s. attorney that he appointed. >> but nobody can make a case for that, brad, nobody. i mean, look, you'd have to be a child to think anything other than that. just a child. i mean you have your never-trumper u.s. attorney there. >> a little hard to hear there but trump refers to your georgia's never-trumper u.s. attorney. that's reference to a man named b.j. pak. he served as a republican in the state legislature. the day after that phone call to the secretary of state, pak got a phone call from the justice department where an official quote relayed mr. trump remained fixated on the false notion that he won georgia and the president was angry that mr. pak did not support that conclusion. stay with me. he's trying the governor first. first he does the audit. then he tries the governor. he goes to the secretary of state. tries the u.s. attorney, pak. pak said he was told the doj was prepared to fire him for not pushing the ridiculous fraud claims. he resigned the next day. this was set against the backdrop of sort of a shakeup when jeffrey clark, a nondescript doj lawyer schemed to install himself in the position so he could weaponize the department of justice to force lawmakers in georgia to do trump's bidding. right? he's getting nowhere with the audits, he's getting nowhere with kemp, he's getting nowhere with raffensperger, he's getting nowhere with the attorney. so use jeffrey clark. he wrote at this time we have identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states, including the state of georgia. now, just to be abundantly clear, that is a lie. it's all lies. but in the absence of anyone else willing to go along with a lie, he gets jeffrey clark at doj. clark wanted to use the legitimaty of the department of justice to disseminate that lie, to stamp it with doj letterhead, give it to georgia's top lawmaker and say maybe you should call a special session and sending your electors. to pressure them to throw out the results of a democratic election and install the loser over the winner. it's the same scheme trump would mention in that phone call to brian kemp. now, of course none of this works. he tries every link in the chain. and with the clock ticking down to the final 48 hours before the electoral votes will be counted on january 6th, with every court in the land having dismissed the allegations of voter fraud as completely baseless, with every single audit that has been undertaken showing the election was free and fair, with literally nothing to sustain this coup plot, we come to a woman named ruby freeman. she is a georgia election worker who was smeared with false conspiracies and viral videos that she and her daughter helped steal the election by smuggling suitcases of illegal biden ballots on election day. she was smeared by, among others, donald trump who mentioned her name 18 times in that phone call to the secretary of state. >> you know the internet? you know what was trending on the internet? where's ruby? because they thought she'd be in jail. where's ruby? it's crazy. it's crazy. that was -- the minimum number is 18,000 for ruby, but they think it's probably about 56,000. >> ah yes. this individual, this one woman on the viral video that my former caddie must have shown me in the oval office stuffed 56,000 ballots. well, today we learned that ruby freeman experienced a harrowing and what could be called surreal visit just two days before january 6th. remember, that clock is ticking. the clock is ticking. a woman named trevion cote showed up at ruby freeman's doorstep. she said she was representing a high-profile individual who wanted to help freeman, but what she did not reveal is that she was a publicist to kanye west. a trump ally who himself ran a half-hearted campaign for president in 2020. we reached out to her to ask who she appeared on behalf of that day, who was this high-profile individual. we have not heard back. now put yourself in ruby freeman's shoes, okay? at this point she has been harassed to her breaking point by trump allies for weeks. her name, she's been doxxed, they know her address. there are people outside her house. she's calling the cops. this woman shows up. i'm coming to help you from a high-profile individual. so she agrees to meet with kanye's publicist in a local police station where she outlined a threat wherein mysterious figures would show up to freeman's house and put her and her family in jail if she did not publicly admit to stealing the election for joe biden, something she did not do. it would -- it is so ridiculous what i just told you. it's real. it is so ridiculous it would be laughable were it not so dark. but there is real threat and menace here. ruby freeman is scared for her life, okay? she's told that if she does not cooperate, if she does not make this big confession, she and members of her family will lose their freedom. that's the quote. she is told she is a loosened and that federal people are involved. she is then instructed to connect with an associate named, and i'm not making this up either, harrison ford. she is instructed to implicate herself in the imaginary, fabricated claims of voter fraud. and thanks to some truly excellent reporting from reuters, we have video of that meeting. because, remember, ruby freeman is holed up in her apartment, just a random poll worker, facing death threats. so she goes and meets kanye west's publicist at a police station where an officer with a body cam captured the meeting. now, fair warning, this is a little long, about three minutes. but i promise you, it is absolutely worth listening to in full. >> thank you so much for agreeing to meet with us. we didn't want to frighten you, but we had to find you within this time frame. i'm here because i received a call. not that i didn't know about this situation because i had heard that it wasn't a serious concern -- [ inaudible ] . we would like to let you know first and foremost we have put in placement a way to move you, to secure me over what may be -- you have probably 48 hours to move you. i cannot say what specifically will take place. i just know that it will disrupt your freedom and -- [ inaudible ] and more of your family members. i would like to connect now on the phone, harrison ford, who would be taking this situation to a detailed level for you, to let you know exactly what is at stake, what choices you have, whether you would choose or not to go with us, i am not your enemy. this is harrison, he works with me. you are a loosened for a party that needs to tidy up. i work with some of the biggest people. one thing we don't want to do for you is create -- i'm going to call harrison ford, i'm going to put him on speaker. harrison ford -- authoritative powers to get you protection. i want the officer to know this is at this moment a conversation between private citizens. i am hoping that you are trusting that this information doesn't go any further. i have to honestly advise i don't know -- >> i could step over there if you're comfortable. is that fine? >> i want her to be comfortable, but i also want to advise her that there are federal people who are involved here, that i don't know who is connected to who. and i really need for her to be as nonchalant as possible with this conversation that we are going to have so that if she does make a decision, she's protected in her decisions. >> what on earth, right? what on earth. now there's a lot to unpack there. but to put a finer point on it, freeman told reuters that kanye's publicist told her if you don't tell everything, you're going to jail. that's the threat. she shows up at this woman's door with all this crazy conspiracy talk and harrison ford, the black crisis manager who has authority to keep you in safety. you have to confess to this or you're going to go to jail. bad things are going to happen to you and your family. donald trump and his allies tried everything to install him as the authoritarian leader of this country. this episode highlights how increasingly desperate they all were in the days leading up to the insurrection. it's so weak and bizarre but also so menacingly desperate. i think that's why people have a hard time getting their head around what we have been through. it's not like they sent the tanks in. they probably couldn't have. they were grasping at straws. they were shaking every tree they could. a letter from doj to georgia saying we're investigating fraud, you should take that under advisement. ruby freeman coming forward to be it's true, it's true, i stuffed the ballots. but all of those things would have had the effect they wanted. each of those. it would have provided cover, just enough cover to delay the certification of the election. it was not within strategic logic. they failed. and thanks to some work by the committee investigating january 6th, we now know how off the walls desperate trump's allies were. thanks to this powerpoint dated january 5th from the trove of documents provided by mark meadows, and it was beyond yip sane. it includes the debunked claims of voter fraud. it invokes hugo chavez, a leader who had been dead for years. it is impossible to overstate how bananas this all is. if a family member gave it to you, you would be very concerned. trump is so desperate, but all out of options. they have tried everything. every link in the chain. all they have left is force. but they know they don't have the army. they know they don't have the army. so all he has left is to hurl the crowd at the capitol and hope that they can use physical intimidation to disrupt the proceedings. >> and we fight. we fight like hell. and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. we're going to walk down pennsylvania avenue. i love pennsylvania avenue. and we're going to the capitol. and we're going to try and give -- the democrats are hopeless, they never vote for anything. not even one vote. but we're going to try and give our republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. we're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. >> it did not work. trump did manage to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power for the first time in this country's long history. and make no mistake, he's gearing up to run again in 2024. even if he does not, he's already rebuilt much of the republican party in his authoritarian image. what happens when someone a little more competent, who understands the levers of power, tries to run the same playbook? what if the next brad raffensperger caves and finds imaginary votes. what if the next terrified ruby freeman gives in to intimidation and agrees to lie about fraud? in order to be prepared for that moment, we need to acknowledge the gravity of the one we just lived through. they attempted a coup. next, ruby freeman's lawyer joins me. lawyer join s me (vo) for fourteen years, subaru and our retailers have been sharing the love with those who need it most. now subaru is the largest automotive donor to make-a-wish and meals on wheels. and the largest corporate donor to the aspca and national park foundation. get a new subaru during the share the love event and subaru will donate two hundred and fifty dollars to charity. ♪ my name is monique, i'm 41, and i'm a federal contract investigator. as a single parent, i would run from football games to work and trying to balance it all. so, what do you see when you look at yourself? i see a person that's caring. sometimes i care too 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despite that being completely false, remember he mentioned freeman by name 18 times. last week we reported on the story because freeman is suing that far right conspiracy website that allegedly published that false report. today we are learning just two days after trump called the secretary of state, ruby freeman got a visit from a woman she later learned was a publicist for kanye west pressing her to confess to voter fraud. >> thank you so much for agreeing to meet with us. we didn't want to frighten you, but we have -- we have a way to move to you, to secure you, and that we are authorized. you are a loosened for a party that needs to tidy up. >> a loose end for a party that needs to tidy up. ian basten along with other attorneys represents ruby freeman and her daughter in a lawsuit and he joins me now. first let's just talk about, again, there's a strange combination of sort of almost comical ineptness. someone who sounds like they're trying to act like they think someone would in a spy movie and genuine menace. the context, tell us about the context for ruby freeman when this is happening to her, when this woman shows up to talk to her and what has happened to her life after the president and his allies have targeted her for weeks. >> well, what should be quite obvious to anybody watching the video that you showed and the story you told is that it has been terrifying. i think this is why i think everyone should care about what happened to these brave election workers in georgia. it's not just because it's a sign of just how serious the threat to our democracy was and is, but it's also a sign of what life could be like for any of us should an autocrat return to power. chris, this is what i mean. what makes someone on authoritarian, right? it's someone who seeks to control all power and do so corruptly. and lest there be any remaining doubt about whether donald trump has won, just refer to your opening monologue to tonight's show to prove it. but they will also eliminate any barrier to their absolute power, whether that's an election worker or a high-ranking official on the national security council or in another country maybe it's a reporter who walks into a consulate to get a marriage license and never walks out. you know that the video and this situation were weird, right? in countries governed by autocrats, it's not weird, it's normal and it's terrifying. >> yeah, that is part of -- again, it's because of both his ineptness and the fact that, like, the rule of law restraints held that that isn't two fbi agents showing up, that this is some very random person trying to play that role and that is what saved us in the end. but a vision of that in which it is fbi agents, that's like the nightmare stuff. i mean that's what we mean when we're talking -- this was a nightmare for ruby freeman. i'm saying one step past that, that's where we're in something that doesn't -- you know, that's not a free country. >> well, and let's get very clear. it's not just -- it is a nightmare, but it's not just a vision, it is something that is actually in progress, right? you detailed very clearly the attempt to overthrow the election last time. but there is right now happening a four-part effort, and these four parts all interlock, to lay the groundwork so next time the effort to overthrow an election and make sure that donald trump or his allies return to power, whether they win enough votes or not, this is the key, is under way, right? there's four parts. one, there is an informational part. two, there is a legal part. three, there is a personnel part. and four, of course there's violence. there's the big lie. convince people elections are corrupt. the last one was stolen and so will the next one be. use that as groundwork to change laws. people around the country are changing election laws. there's a personnel effort to remove people like brad raffensperger. and of course a recent poll showed today 30% of republicans say violence may be necessary to protect the country. there's a violent effort. last time was practice for the next time unless we do the necessary steps now to protect our democracy. >> well, i want to say in a minute what are those, because i feel like i've -- again, we ending up in this place every night. i feel like -- it feels a little like covid in march of 2020 where it's like just ringing the bell. that's what we have. that's what we have here. we talk to you an ring the bell. what are those steps? >> so ringing the bell is one of them because we have the same four steps in our arsenal of democracy. the informational one, we have to tell the truth, which you are doing here, right? and that is that unfortunately the vast majority of the republican party has become autocratic and we cannot deny that, whether we are politicians, whether we are reporters or american citizens. we have to tell truth. the second is legal, like the brave election workers in georgia are doing now because the law does have 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department of justice is doing its own investigations. so until we know all that can be known and find all that can be found we can't actually say a crime has not been committed. and certainly there are indications that there are many things we can be concerned about, but also that the more we learn, the more steps we learn, we might be able to take in order to prevent this kind of thing in the future. but let me go to the specific story we've been talking about, right, because what we saw on that videotape very much appears to be a violation of georgia criminal law because there is a crime of -- poll workers being told a lie about voter fraud is itself a crime but intimidating pole workers, harassing poll workers falls within the criminal code. one of the reasons why ahmaud arbery's case saw justice is because people organized and made noise about the fact that law enforcement was not taking action against his killers. this is the same situation in the context of poll worker intimidation. we have to also have on the ground organizing that identifies where and how the apparatus of government should be doing its job and there's a real question to me in this reporting and i don't know the facts of whether that's happening. and just one other point because i don't want us to lose that there are things that are happening right now because there is an election protection network of lawyers, so lawyers can volunteer in every state to essentially help with the legal proceedings for poll workers. some of this means defending them against new state statutes that are trying to make it more difficult for them to do their job by criminalizing them. that is also where like in florida they might face fines for, quote, unquote, blocking a poll monitor, which has been completely political in terms of republican legislatures passing these kinds of laws. so there are all kinds of things that are happening now, including the fbi task force on voter intimidation and other things. but we have to do more of these things to make sure that justice is done when laws are violated. >> yeah, and your point, maya, about this individual being intimidated and harassed, brandy, this is -- this is such a story because this is not the only poll worker that's been harassed. as reuters documented, there have been many. a broader campaign of fear waged against poll workers. nearly 800 intimidating messages, more than 100 that warrant prosecution and of course in this situation this is a woman whose plucked from anonymity by the internet and fed through the disinformation mill all the way up to the president of the united states and then has to bear the brunt of it. >> yeah. i think about ruby freeman all the time. my colleague, ben collins, who you know very well, we talk about her all the time because her story is the most egregious example. there's a joke on the internet that you never want to be the main character. someone plucked this 62-year-old grandmother who bedazzled a handbag and seems like a god-fearing lovely woman and just made her the main character for a full month and then beyond. her story went to the president of the united states and his lawyers to gateway pundit, which is one of the trash cans of the internet. and he -- the far right website just like every day there was a new story about how she was a crook and she was stealing. and so when you have that narrative out there through those very powerful pipelines, what it does is emboldens those people who consider themselves digital soldiers who think when they call this 62-year-old grandmother and say we're going to kill you or go down to her house and try to make a citizen's arrest, they think they're doing the bidding of the president, much like we saw on january 6th. it's a terrifying, terrifying, thing and i hope miss freeman is getting some relief now. >> just to ending on a positive note, i want to say this. she is suing and also we've talked a lot about the people that held the line up to and including the fact that mike pence refused to go ahead and say i declare these -- people like ruby freeman and her in particular, she comes out of that meeting. i think she was afraid the devil is a liar and she knew she was being lied to. she holds firm under this tremendous pressure. and she is -- she exhibits exemplary citizenship. we all owe her a debt of gratitude. a random person put in extraordinary circumstances who stood up for american democracy and that spirit, i think, should animate all of us going forward. maya and brandy, thank you both. next, the supreme court's ruling on the texas abortion bill which my next guest says could go down as one of the most disgraceful decisions in supreme court history. what to make of it. and chief justice roberts warning for his conservative colleagues after this. er this. get help managing your money for the life -- and years -- ahead. with fidelity income planning, we'll look at what you've saved, warning for his 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>> well, let me just start with we should think about it as a really disgraceful opinion, as you were saying at the outset. i mean the court is allowing the state of texas to basically nullify the supreme court's guarantee of the right to abortion. and it's done so by this scheme that really the court green lit today. so the effect of today's decision is that the law is still in effect. it goes back to the district court. it is said that we can proceed in this case only against the medical licensing authorities. and while that is important and we'll pursue it, we do not want doctors in the state of texas to lose their medical licenses or the nurses to lose their nursing licenses for providing constitutionally protected services. but that isn't going to stop the lawsuits under sb 8 which are those bounty-hunting lawsuits that are chilling the provision of abortion services in texas because they have $10,000 bounties. anybody can sue in any of these districts in texas. and there's no preexclusive effects. the lawsuits can just keep on coming even if we're winning them by defending under the fact that this is unconstitutional. so it is absolutely shameful. i mean those were strong words by chief justice roberts about how the court is not upholding its constitutional duty to make sure that these rights are not violated. >> i mean sotomayor compared it -- the logic here, she invokes john c. calhoun, one of the great villains of american history that sort of intellectual force behind the confederacy and the slave power, who before the civil war writes wars, writes an anonymous pamphlet essentially laying out theory that states can nullify federal law and in her opinion, says, this looks like nullification. we have a constitutional protected right to abortion in this country, this state says we came up with a clever way to nullify it and this court is going to okay it. >> that's right. and the justice is right. and she was joined by justices kaegan and friar and of course the chief justice's opinion says the same thing, that the state of texas is being allowed to nullify, disregard the decisions of the supreme court, decisions of roe v wade and the constitutional right to abortion the chief justice doesn't necessarily agree with, but he agrees that what the supreme court has ruled about what the constitution protects and has ruled the constitution to protect the right to abortion, states like texas cannot say we don't agree. and they've done this through this bounty-hunting scheme. it has all kinds of reverberations about our really bad history in the united states. so for justice senator mayore to invoke john calhoun, she's absolutely right. >> you know, i'm thinking about process and what happens while something is in effect, used to cover labor a lot, and what happens is you bring a labor claim, the nrb then three years later find you unlawful for organizing and get three weeks pay like six weeks later, like, okay, the damage is done. here amy engstrom miller, for women's health, the plaintiff and your client says staying open doesn't work much long, says her chain operating less than 30% of income since the law come into effect. of course, this is precisely the goal of the entire rude goldburg machine they elected into law to avoid a stay so that they can put them out of business. >> absolutely, and, you know, it's been just amazing the commitment abortion providers in texas and their staffs have been going forward since september 1 even though they can't operate at capacity, it is such a strain, and people making donations to the clinic, to the abortion funds helping people leave the state -- let's just remember, front and center. this is the 100th day this law has been in effect and women have had to leave the state of texas, if they have the means to do so, if they can take time off from work, if they can get childcare and what this is causing in other states, oklahoma, louisiana, far out, there are now backlogs on getting abortion care. people can't get abortion care in other states until, you know, 2022 because of all the influx of texas patient and see that's why, if you live in oklahoma two blocks from a clinic and can't get an abortion until january of 2022 because texas is denying its own citizens their rights. it's an absolute, you know, absolute abomination. >> all right, nancy, thank you for joining us today. the nightmare pandemic beyond, it is easy too feel things are bad and can't get better, but that's not true. when we come back, i promise you, a ray of hope from somewhere you might not expect. t alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh, what a relief it is ♪ so fast! also try for cough, mucus & congestion. feel stuck with credit card debt? 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