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antonia, connecticut has had the highest number of covid cases in all 50 states in the last few weeks. how are the doctors and nurses holding up? >> chris, it has been really hard. you know connecticut has in many ways led the way in vaccinations. they were the first to reach herd immunity and now they're seeing a massive uptick in cases. statewide about 500,000 people. so they're really getting the message out there about the importance of vaccination about folk that's are vaccinated and that doesn't mean just hesitant adults, but those that need fist and second shots. and folk that's have waning immunities. many people got vaccinated months ago, right? now those folks have waning protection. they are trying to get the message out that booster shots will keep them protected. centers like this one, this is the kind of public vaccination site. if you call call pharmacies, they are waiting weeks and months for appointments, but parks like this one are hosting these events to get people their shots right now. listen to my conversation with the mayor about all of the work being done on the ground right now. >> we know 75% of people are at least somewhat vaccinates. get your booster are vaccinated. it is similar to the one that we have in new york city. another element of keeping people say, they say, making sure that employers and venues can understand who is vaccinated and who is not. and what level of protection do they have and the other critical step as we move into these crucial months now. >> yeah, people that did it last year that have been looking forward to this. thank you. so, doctor, let's talk about how bad this could get. half of the total hospitalizations are in six states from illinois to new york. it's getting colder by the day. and stories of places like connecticut, one of the first places that i reported from, that seemed to be doing everything right. but with waning immunity and now they're seeing the surge, what is the message here? dl is still not enough people. they are getting filled up. they're trying to take care of covid patients, but also everything else. heartattacks, strokes, and if they don't have room to do that that is a major concern. states with high levels of vaccinations, if there are pockets of unvaccinated, state that's have a lot of ka as it pi, we're back to where we started in many areas. that is going to be the key for first and second doses getting into people. that is what removes concerns about hospitalizations. talking about going back to where we started, going in the hospitals that have seen the surge, a lot of unvaccinated people are talking to them, they can't believe they're getting sick now even if they're unvaccinated. in some cases they're taking their anger and frustration out on these health care workers and we're seeing the number of health care workers that are leaving the profession continue to go up to be beyond what it was pre-coronavirus. and it makes you wonder what does it mean for people going to the hospital from now until the end of when this is and say for the next five years in the health profession. >> it's a horrible situation. i'm a health care worker and i'm talking to you from a hospital right now. there are unvaccinated patients just behind this door if has really taxed all of us. all of us are burned out if is very difficult to deal with something that is vaccine preventable now nap covid deaths, covid hospitalizations, they can be avoided. if there is a problem again, it is so frustrating and i don't think there is an easy solution. and it is leading to people burning out and leaving the field. moving out of acute care into something outpatient. we're going to have a disruption in the health care industry after covid 19 is the problem that it is because it will change the health care industry. people are so frustrated with the fact that we're still mired in this with a vaccine. >> if you had one message to put out there. we're telling people to get boostered, what are the conversations like behind that door and where you're sitting, what do they wish people would get? >> i wish people would get, and i think all of my colleagues do, when you don't get vaccinated that's one thing, but when you come to your hospital and expect to be cared for, expect to get anti-bodies, an icu bed, a ventilator, that all impinges on your community's ability to care for erin else. you're putting your community hospital, your doctors, nurses, and everyone at the grocery store and school, they're all getting stressed and burned out. and it is an unsustainable process. and you have to realize that a simple vaccine keep that's have happening. and that's another thing that people have to remember. >> it's not just about you, it's about a lot of people and the tentacles of this thing. thank you so much and thank you to all of the folks working behind that door where you're sitting, we appreciate it. an emotional morning today where lawmakers past and present paid tribute to bob dole. president biden who served in the senate with dole for more than two decades said goodbye to a political opponent who also believed that bipartisanship isn't a dirty word. bob and i like many of us here disagreed on a number of things, but not on any fundamental things. we still found a way to work together. we genuinely respected one another as colleagues and fellow americans. it was real, it wasn't fake. may god bless bob dole, and god bless america. may god protect our troops. joining us now is le eerks -- leann caldwell. what else did we hear from the president and other law marks that worked with bob dole through the years. >> the theme of those that spoke about bob dole today was civility and that he was a great man, a creature of the senate, and he loved the senate. those are the words we heard over and over again from speaker pelosi, leaders mcconnell, leader schumer as well. and all of the themes of the speech also tied into his experience and his background and how that influenced his time as a politician. the fact that he came from humble roots in russell, kansas and sometimes did not have access to food. later in his career he was instrumental in creating the modern day food stamp program that we know today. as well as his injuries, his life threatening injuries in world war ii later left him unable to use one of his arms. and a huge advocate in the disability community and that lead him to pass the americans with disabilities act in 1990. and those were things that he continued to fight for. the fact that he was able to reach across the aisle. he has a tremendous amount of respect for departments and republicans and that's what he reflected on today, chris. >> i want to play some of what we heard from mitch mcconnell this morning that also served with bob dole. >> after he became leader, bob described his senate management challenges with his trademark whit. if he knew we would have won control of the senate we would have run better candidates. the real engine behind his remarkable years was his love. his love for elizabeth and for robin. for public service. for kansas, and for america. today we honor the amazing life that that love created. >> you know, i think about bob dole being similar to a president you know well, lyndon johnson in their ability to make things happen in the senate by working with the people on the right side of the aisle. we heard things like civility and love. in terms of the politics of it, what should we know about bob dole. >> you mentioned lyndon johnson, and -- he was conservative. let's not make any bones about that. he was faithful to his party and he opposed much of the legislation that came out of lyndon johnson's great society, but he voted for the civil rights act. the voting rights act. he understood the greater good. one of the greatest members of the greatest generation that understood and fought for the greater good. he was an american first, a partisan republican, second. >> the partisanship that exists today, that escalated in the trump era, what do you think the message is for too. they are there to pay respects for someone like bob dole, who they worked with or at least knew. >> i hope so, there is a huge contrast between bob dole and mitch mcconnell. mcconnell so clearly puts party first. he doesn't think about the greater good to the extent that bob dole did. it was hard not to see the burial of bob dole as the burial of a bygone era in politics where republicans and politics came together at key times. and put partisan bickering aside to get things done nor country if is easy to romanticize him on the day of his burial, but he understood at key times that you need to put it aside to do something bigger for your country. >> the burial of a bygone era. let's hope that we find a way to let that not be the case. mark, leighann, thank you to both of you. >> battle lines, a former chief of staff is suing speaker pelosi and the entire january 6th committee. does it have legs or is it another delay tactic? 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>> well, i think there is two significant things. one is a deposition is a very routine thing that needs to occur in most civil cases. the fact that they're takes his deposition should not be all that news worthy if is because donald trump believes the best defense is a good offense. and i think her dropping out of the race for governor is probably a good development. she is certainly eligible to run for governor, and if she believes she wants to be governor and has the qualifications, she should do that. i think is a distraction in this case. people are saying she just has political ambitions and she will do whatever it takes to score political points. i think by dropping out of the race it's more difficult to impugn political and personal motives to her. this is a necessary step in a civil litigation. >> she said there are a number of important investigations and cases under way, and i intend to finish the job. so let's, garrett, go back to the investigation in the attack on the capitol hill. what is the plan now that meadows is suing them. >> they're going to move forward with where contempt. it will go through the committee, the house floor, and then the d.o.j. will have to make a decision whether or not to criminally charge mark meadows. i'm not a lawyer and i will not play one on tv, but many people wiser than me think that meadows has a stronger case on the privilege claims than he made than has steve bannon in the white house. the current white house says that meadows has no such real claim because the biden administration would like to see his full testimony. even with meadows stonewalling and fighting this in court, the work goes on. today they're organizing a "stop the steal" salesperson testifying saying he turned in a lot of evidence. >> barbara, how legitimate is this lawsuit in your opinion? >> i think it could be, actually. i think in addition to executive privilege, he also exerted the fifth amendment. i think he may have done the committee a favor here. this will tee up the issue civilly. at the end of the day i think the committee wants to hear the testimony of mark meadows. with steve bannon it was easy to charge him with a crime knowing you're likely sacrificing his testimony ultimately, i don't know that he would have been terribly helpful, but you could use that as an effort to deter other people. mark meadows is someone they really do want to talk to. he was a high level advisor and he has a more arguable case for executive privilege. i still think that is a loser, but the fifth amendment is one that cannot be waived by president biden. i think it sees up the issue for the judge to make a finding and they can move from there. either a judge will find no privilege and he should testify, or the judge say there's is a privilege and then they consider granting him immunity if his testimony is worth tainting a future possible charge on him. >> they extremely frustrated and they have seen this movie before. the idea that meadows under investigation would turn around and sue his investigators is kind of a classic trumpian strategy. they're not surprised, but it is frustrating. steve bannon, that case won't even go to trial until july. if you're looking at your political calendar here and you're worried it could last into the midterms, that is frankly not good enough. getting the testimony of household names, able to fill in the blanks, i think it is even more important now giveen the potentially lengthy delays. >> border build up, president biden set to speak with his you -- ukrainian counter part. troops are prepared to hold off a russian advance in is this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. only on msnbc. rea mitchell repon msnbc. only on msnbc. -what's snapshot? 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>> in our language we have some words like hope for the best and get ready for the worst. >> that is richard engel reporting from ukraine. president biden is scheduled to hold a phone call with the president of ukraine in just the next few minutes. on the agenda is russia's military build up on the border two days after his phone call with vladimir putin. so what do we expect in that phone call? >> yeah, it is expected to start in the next few minutes. that president bide listen update zalinski. they will share concerns with the ukrainian president about that military build up, and again, express america's support for ukraine sovereignty and their territorial integrity here. the president is likely to make the case that the effort here is to deescalate through diplomacy, but they recognize there is a lot of variables right now. but it is certainly like that that vladimir will raise his concerns about what is really happening there. in the past senior administration officials made it clear that it is unlikely that will happen even in the next decade. >> the administration is considering unprecedented sanctions if it does that could cripple the access to bond markets. what's the expectation about how the sanctions might act as a deterrent. >> that is the message that president biden gave to president putin. and i'm sure that on his call with president zalinski he will talk about the things he said with president putin, saying he will give them defense weaponry and materials and that they will both the other earn neighbors of ukraine and nato members. i think peter is right that they're probably not going to make any problems about nato member, but the president will have to tell him that he also said there will be an announcement, perhaps by friday, of a meeting between nato, or at least foreign nato members, the united states, and russia to talk about russia's --s about the expansion of nato. those will all be on the table as they were on the call with putin. all things i expect he will want to discuss. >> i want to talk to you about what you're hearing, peter, in terms of the white house watching to see what putin does next. then you have a range of options, right? if he does a the united states responds with b. any word on what they're anticipating? >> i asked president biden on the south lawn yesterday. i said do you feel confident that putin got the message? and he said i'm absolutely confidence that putin got the mess an. so he feels strongly, the white house appears to feel strongly that vladimir putin recognizes that if they're to invade ukraine the consequences will be far more severe and significant economically than they have been in the past. the sanctions involving the individuals, a pinprick of an economic sanction or attack, but now it would be much broader, really harming the wider russian economy in ways that the u.s. has not done in the past. the u.s. feels strongly that that message will be one that will deter vladimir putin. but in terms of his calculus i think that remains anyone's guess. >> thank you so much, guys, appreciate you. up next, the inside scoop, the senate votes to strip the federal vaccine mandate. what that move could foreshadow about the midterms. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. e midterms this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. ♪ and my clothes smell so much fresher than before ♪ ♪ yeah, yeah ♪ ♪ i'm a ganiac, ganiac, check my drawers ♪ ♪ it's a freshness like i've never smelled before ♪ one sniff of gain flings and you'll be a gainiac too! the only detergent with oxiboost and febreze. with relapsing forms of ms... there's a lot to deal with. not just unpredictable relapses. all these other things too. it can all add up. kesimpta is a once-monthly at-home injection... that may help you put these rms challenges in their place. kesimpta was proven superior at reducing the rate of relapses, active lesions, and slowing disability progression vs aubagio. don't take kesimpta if you have hepatitis b, and tell your doctor if you have had it, as it could come back. kesimpta can cause serious side effects, including infections. while no cases of pml were reported in rms clinical trials, it could happen. tell your doctor if you had or plan to have vaccines, or if you are or plan to become pregnant. kesimpta may cause a decrease in some types of antibodies. the most common side effects are upper respiratory tract infection, headache, and injection reactions. ready for an at-home treatment with dramatic results? 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"paper & glue" shows us his mission to give a voice to people who are most often forgotten and how his art transcends rules and borders. the documentary takes the viewer to a supermax prison in california inside the brazilian slums around rio de janeiro and to both sides of the u.s.-mexico border. >> this is the eye of the woman who's a dreamer. a dreamer is someone who had come to the united states when she was very ill with her parents but illegally. her name is mira. i told her not to doubt that there's a big chance we'll get arrested. not only she came, she came with her mother. >> dallas brennan rexner, one of the producers. first of all, congratulations. it is riveting, and i want to start at the u.s.-mexico border because it's so fraught, right, politically. but when you watch this, the images and the feelings it evokes, including this photo of a giant toddler, tell us about why -- first of all, tell us about that photo but also why it was important for him to go to the border. >> thanks for having me on. this project which happened in 2017 because like all j.r. projects, it came out of conversation, ideas, questionings. it was -- he was feeling it out as he went, and when you watch the film, you get to kind of tag along and watch the evolution of it. and he didn't know initially what he wanted to do on the border. he knew the border was a fraught place, a place that people talked about, people had experienced. so he wanted to bring people there and give a visual and give a real grounding of what we're talking about. but he hadn't figured out what the project was until he went there, and it was by happenstance that he met tikito. his mom lives in a house behind the wall. and to him, that image was just naivete, it was the beauty of a small child who's just curious, and i think we all can relate to curiosity and children and the wide-eyed view of the world. >> yes. on the other end of the spectrum, in a way, the documentary goes into a supermax prison in california. i want to play a little clip from that part of the doc. >> i was raised here. i never really imagined that one day you could get out and do something that you're never even going to believe. the more we think like that, the more we'll be able to obtain those dreams. people want to be this big. you know what i mean? we can see it. we want to be that big from way up there. it doesn't take much. just a little hope, a little effort, and some papers. >> the recurring theme i took away from the document is the basic human need to be seen, to feel seen. another time there was a photo of a young boy in a neighborhood in france who saw one of the free throw toes and said, "i saw myself and my friends in it." tell us about that. >> yeah. the big issues, the simple tools to address those. i think, you know, we all live in a difficult time. we're used to seeing kind of horrific things unfold before us. but the simple gestures of a handshake, eye contact, and acknowledging people's existence goes a really long way. the film takes us into that experience, so it's a really uplifting message. >> it is, indeed. dallas, again, congratulations. thank you. i want to let people know that msnbc films will present the world premiere of this award-winning documentary, "paper & glue," tomorrow at 10:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. that's going to do it for this edition of andrea mitchell reports. follow us online. 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