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know. and velshi across america, i travel to window rock. the stunning navajo nation to mark native american month. i'll have a vital discussion on this thanksgiving weekend. "velshi" starts now. good morning. it is saturday, november 27th. i'm ali velshi. new covid variant is causing global alarm as countries enact travel restrictions in the attempt to contain the latest coronavirus threat. the w.h.o. classified the omicron as a highly transmissible virus of concern. that includes the delta that it includes to drive up the hospitalizations and deaths in europe and u.s. many mutations found within the omicron variant are linked to increased antibody resistance which affects how the virus behaves. scientists in south africa first discovered it was driving a spike in cases there on thursday. so far, omicron has been detected in belgium, botswana, hong kong and israel. the u.s. is moving to restrict travel from south africa and several other countries in the region, including botswana, mozambique and zimbabwe and eswatini. those restrictions will go into effect on monday for non-u.s. citizens. dr. fauci joined peter alexander and kristen welker on "weekend today" to discuss the omicron variant. fauci says there are no cases identified in the u.s. right now, he would not be surprised if it is already here. >> we have not detected it yet. when you have a virus that is showing this degree of trans miss built and you are already having travel related cases noted in israel and belgium and other places. when you have a virus like this, it is ultimately going go all over. the issue of blocking travel from a given country is to just give us time to assess it better. that's the reason for doing that. not any reason to panic. >> meanwhile, president biden issued a statement urging americans to get vaccinated. america is leading the world in vaccinating children ages 5 to 11 and has been vaccinated teens for months now. we need more americans in all age groups to get the life-saving protection. if you have not gotten your vaccine or not taken your children to get vaccinated, now is the time. he sent a message to the global community. the united states has donated more vaccines to other countries than every other country combined. it is time for other counties to match america's speed and generosity. joining me is dr. bedehlia. she is a contributor to msnbc and a friend to the show on the topic for far too long. good to see you. dr. fauci talked about the degree of transmissability. are we talking about mortality or infectiinfectiousness? what does this mean with the degree of transmissability. >> the reason omicron is of other than there are over 50 mutations and 30 on the spike protein that the virus attaches to human cells. the nature from what we have seen can do a couple of things. one is increasing transmissability. if you have it, you are likely to pass it on to somebody else. there is concern the way the few mutations look, it is similar to others. there is a concern that none of the other mutations, beta and lambda have taken over is delta is king of the hill. if you all of a sudden are seeing variant that has mutations that may both cause greater transmissability, but also decrease efficacy of the current treatment, it might out-compete delta because cases are starting to go up in south africa. this is something we need to be concerned about. i will caveat this with all of the data is quite early. the next two weeks will help us figure out what is what and what turns out to be the truth with the epidemiology in south africa and lab work. >> it was detected first on thursday. the monitoring seems to be working well. you used two terms in the explanation. you talked about antibody resistance and decreased efficacy of the vaccine. are those two sides of the same coin? the antibodies are not holding off omicron the way they hold off delta? >> there is suspicion it is and there is a concern from the w.h.o. in the population they are seeing. this early. why does it matter? the way vaccines work is that it creates antbodies and has a longer term t-cell response to protect you. when antibodies go down, you may get greater chance of infection, but the t-cell may protect you from severe disease. in these cases, the variants decrease efficacy. the good news is no variant to date, ali, and this is the question of the current vaccine works. no data completely overwhelmed or evaded. they may provide protection which is why i think you are seeing president biden and dr. fauci encouraging everybody to get vaccinated and boosted. >> you give us a lot of information in little time. we are appreciative of it. it is not only important and necessary information, but it can be life-saving information. we are grateful to you and how ready you are to come and talk to viewers. an infectious disease physician. congress reconvenes next week and facing a number of key deadlines and democrats seek to pass the $1.7 trillion build back better plan through the senate where democrats hold a razor thin majority that relies on vice president harris' tie breaking vote to pass anything that doesn't have republican support. it is a consequence kweengs al week for justice. three white men who cased and killed ahmaud arbery were found guilty of murder charges. a virginia jury reached a partial verdict in the unite the right trial. nine individuals are entitled to more than $25 million in compensation for injury sustained during the 2017 charlottesville rally. they could not decide if the organizers engaged in a conspiracy to commit violence under federal law. joining me now is the democratic congress member troy carter of louisiana. a member of the house transportation and infrastructure committee. congress member, i love talking about infrastructure and i want to talk about that, but first let's talk about racial justice in america. we saw the verdict in georgia and on the heels of the verdict in minneapolis. it does seem to suggest that while we may not be at a point where justice is done for killing unarmed black people, but there may be some accountability that is to be had. >> certainly there was a recognition of the need to have justice. clearly, one verdict doesn't change the issue that our country faces. there is a tremendous problem in our criminal justice system. this was a victory, but it was outlandish and clear that the evidence was clear that it would have been difficult to come back with anything but a guilty verdict. however, we have seen this before. denotes we still have a long way to go. we should pause on this victory and recognize the so many others. rittenhouse and others that require the kind of careful attention and recognition that our criminal justice system is severely flawed. >> you said it was outlandish and clear, yet there was a chance it would not result in a conviction. part of the reason it is is because there is a video. in one group says one thing and another group says the other, the population tends to believe unarmed black people don't get killed for just doing nothing. >> that is a fact. the reality is if you reversed the roles that had been three african americans chasing a white gentleman, unarmed and no items suggested he stolen something, there would not have been media. there would have been conviction in the media and court and probably would not have had the level of deliberation. that is the real issue of why the racism and criminal justice reform needs to be fixed. there's no question. when i say outlandish, this was easy. yet, for many people, it wasn't. if it was reversed, it would have been a different day. >> let's talk about infrastructure. you are on the infrastructure committee. how will you and democrats effectively -- this infrastructure bill is massive. it is huge. it's a big deal. it should have been bipartisan from the beginning. it was marginally bipartisan which confuses me. i grew up thinking infrastructure was as republican a thing as democratic. you have to message how big a deal it is and how it improves people's lives. how will you do that? >> we are talking about $1.2 trillion. "t." not "b." for louisiana, $7 billion to come to my state to address clean water and removing lead pipes. like looking at the 25% of critical infrastructure facilities that are in imminent danger if we don't do something about it. these are life changing once in a lifetime opportunities. this is the largest infrastructure impact for the country since the creation of the interstate system under president eisenhower. that is a really, really big deal. when you talk about those saying there is not enough in it or it should have been more. at the end of the day, we all love to have it bigger and more robust and deal with greater issues. we are talking about trillions of dollars and talking about trillions of dollars that not only impact democrats, but impact republicans, democrats, people all over the country. people who voted for me and didn't. people who voted for president biden and didn't. of all things, infrastructure should never been considered partisan. i'm proud of the work that those republicans that did, although all too few, come along with us. cassidy in the senate from my home state who did an incredible job to fashion the final passage of the bill we should all be proud of and will yield great benefits for many years to come. >> congress member, good to see you. we appreciate the time you have taken. democratic representative troy carter of louisiana. still ahead on "velshi" we continue to talk about the build back better bill with representative emanuel cleaver. he joins us at the top of the hour. november is native american heritage month. i headed to window rock. the capital of navajo nation. the issues facing native people. and america is losing out on the best and brightest immigrants the world has to offer and it is costing our nation a great deal. is costing nation a great deal. -had enough? -no... arthritis. here. new aspercreme arthritis. full prescription-strength? reduces inflammation? thank the gods. don't thank them too soon. kick pain in the aspercreme. >> man: what's my safelite story? my truck...is my livelihood. so when my windshield cracked... the experts at safelite autoglass came right to me... with service i could trust. right, girl? >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ ♪ limu emu... & doug ♪ ♪ superpowers from a spider bite? i could use some help showing the world how liberty mutual customizes their car insurance so they only pay for what they need. 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in other words, we are getting more race blind? we're able to see whether or not the case was motivated by race and able to look at justice as justice? >> no, i don't think we made great strides. this is one important step just like the verdict in the derek chauvin trial was one important step to leveling the playing field. opening people's eyes to the injustice that a lot of african american men face on a daily basis. there are thousands of people in jail and killed, african americans. we can't turn back the clock. this is an important step. we have to keep on pushing in the court and through federal legislation and with activism. i think we see a convergence in the derek chauvin trial as in the mcmichael-bryan trial. we see the factors. and the evidence that points to heinuos crimes committed. >> the three men convicted in arbery's murder. they tried to argue they were performing a citizens arrest. following the death, georgia repealed that law. many states across the country have similar legislation. not just citizens arrest, but things that give people impunity if they kill people in a manner that most of us would think extra judicial. do you think those laws can change? if so, who is behind changing them? >> i think those laws can change and those laws must change. the people behind changing them would be the citizens in each state. in state of georgia, for example, the legislature changed the law because of the pressure. the murder of ahmaud arbery, even before the trial, the whole video that the state and country and world saw, was so disturbing and aggravating and so much of a disturbance, in georgia, the legislature repealed the law. it was an 1863 law after all. what happens in georgia happens in the south and northern states and the midwest and west coast. there needs to be a concerted effort. the people in the states are the ones who are responsible for the repeal. >> an 1863 law passed in response to the emancipation proclamation because slaves were trying to get away from their masters. this is a slavery-era law. ck is the former president of the national bar association and veteran trial attorney. we hope you had a great thanksgiving. it is time to burn off the calories and put on the farming hat. the ideas for farming sustain bring in the future. you can listen to the show on the go anytime. listen for free anywhere you get your podcasts. free anywhereou t your podcasts. ♪♪♪ ♪♪it's a most unusual day♪♪ ♪♪feel like throwing my worries away♪♪ ♪♪as an old native-born californian would say♪♪ ♪♪it's a most unusual day♪♪ ♪♪it's a most unusual sky♪♪ ♪♪not a sign of a cloud passing by♪♪ ♪♪if my heart won't behave in the usual way♪♪ experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list event. ♪ when you have nausea, ♪ ♪ heartburn, ingestion, upset stomach... ♪sanctuary ♪ diarrheaaaa.♪ try pepto bismol with a powerful coating action. for fast and soothing relief. pepto bismol for fast relief when you need it most. people with moderate to severe psoriasis, or psoriatic arthritis, are rethinking the choices they make like the splash they create the way they exaggerate the surprises they initiate. otezla. it's a choice you can make. otezla is not an injection or a cream it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. for psoriatic arthritis, otezla is proven to reduce joint swelling, tenderness, and pain. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. like pulsing, electric shocks, sharp, stabbing pains, or an intense burning sensation. what is this nightmare? 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"finding nemo" is in the navajo language. we premiered our third which is "fistful of dollars." we did it because the other two, you know, i would get older folks asking you should do a western. our older generation are holding on to our language. the big number one reason why we push for that is because language is at the core of any culture. our language is -- it's at a tipping point for navajo people. if we don't do anything about it, we will lose it forever. >> can i get a share of hands of who speaks the navajo language? okay. >> the colleagues and panelists here have spoken about the need to preserve language. it all hinges on the difference in that we speak the language. we have a connection to our land and when we speak these words into the universe in prayer, it is how we find our grounding with who we are. >> and my viewer who may not know you refer to the people and culture and language? >> yes, ali. >> i'll talk about politics. the infrastructure bill finally got done. it is uniquely not abstract to you in navajo nation particularly in relation to water. >> for many decades, the issue about water is really been overlooked by the united states. for tribes, not just navajo. for navajo, we had a rolling log of constant need for water development on the navajo nation. today, i just ended health service. they have a listing of almost 10,000 homes that don't have water today. >> this is in navajo nation? >> in the navajo nation, there are almost 10,000 homes that lack water. if there is approximately four family members per home, that is easily 40,000 people. money is one factor in all of this. right now, i -- i -- i see the money that could come. $3.5 billion for water projects. to get water to homes. i know too many of the details about the process to get water to homes. it will be a real struggle. yes, the money is coming, but there's still a long way to see a lot of families get water. >> with native americans in congress, you know, i think we have kind of been gathering more support and dr. jill biden was here a few months ago. we have some allies, i think, in the higher level that sees what he is seeing as far as need for our navajo people. basic needs. on top of water, of course, we need infrastructure. there's still a lot of dirt roads that we have to travel on and our police vehicles are getting torn up. internet. you know, internet. everybody else has internet, but a lot of the navajo people don't have internet. cell service. being optimistic, i think, eventually our leaders see it and they will forecast and say let's help our native people a little bit more and little bit better. they are vested in us. we have treaies with them. it is their agreement with us that they take care of our native people. >> you know, really, when you look at the history in the federal government and then our stance working with them with the government-to-government relationship, often times we don't have a seat at the table. it is other individuals making decisions for us and about us and not having the firsthand knowledge from individuals like myself and the president who knows what is going on here actually on the nation and on the reservation impacting our communities. when i think about representation, i think how the new administration has come in really and wants to gauge what it feels like to be part of the navajo nation or part of other indigenous communities out there. having the seat at the table and making sure that we are heard from our perspective because your perspective and my perspective, i live here and i'm navajo 24/7. this is all i know. you have come to visit or other people are trying to understand the perspective to live on navajo. you heard a little bit about the water issue and the public safety and safety and the health. how it's vastly different compared to western society and the western world out there. so having that ability to know the difference between the two worlds, society that we have to live by is very imperative that we continue to voice our opinions and make sure that we continue to get strong men and women of native heritage in these high positions within d.c. or the states, legislatures or even here within our tribal government, as well. >> it's really one of the best conversations i've had in the last year in "velshi" across america. coming up in the next hour you'll hear part two of the conversation in which we discuss the complexity, and what navajo people want non-native americans to take away from native-american heritage month. all right. it's been seven years since russia invaded ukraine and illegally annexed crimea. according to ukraine, russia is up to something again. if you're washing with the bargain brand, even when your clothes look clean, there's extra dirt you can't see. watch this. that was in these clothes...ugh. but the clothes washed in tide- so much cleaner! if it's got to be clean, it's got to be tide hygienic clean no surprises in these clothes! couple more surprises. 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because as we've mentioned ukraine is not part, it's not a member of the european union. there is a general understanding among nato countries that an invasion or an attack on one is an attack on the other and that doesn't fit when it comes to ukraine either. there have been a lot of noises on ukraine to become more western facing and integrated with the west. it is integrated to some degree with russia. what's the right thing to do if russia may or may not overtly or covertly try to interfere with ukrainian issues again? >> at this point we are in the message-sending part of this face-off. so russia is sending a message by amassing troops on the border. the biden administration is trying to send the message that letting it be known that it is thinking of sending military advisers and it is a very loose definition and thinking of sending military advisers to ukraine to help protect ukrainian territory, their stock up more with nato, nuclear bombers over that territory, and so both sides are, if you like, this is shadow boxing that's going on. the u.s. yesterday the secretary of state for the assistant secretary of state for the european affairs used the language all options are on the table. that is in diplomatic terms very strong and that would have been noticed. the trick for the biden administration, though is to get the europeans behind it. it's not enough. it's not going to be enough if putin only hears from joe biden. he is fully aware that the united states, the american people are not in the mood for a war and he can, putin can keep pressing harder and harder against ukraine without getting a military response from the u.s., but he has to hear from the europeans and the europeans are really divided over this. the french want to take a tough line with putin and the most crucial voice in europe has to come from germany and germany has always been well for the last ten or 12 years has been very dovish on russia in general and think, in germany you have the additional competition right now. if you have a change of leadership, angela merkel, the rock of germany so many years is on her way out. >> right. he's not been tested in this position yet. bobby, always good to see you. editor and columnist with bloomberg opinion. don't go anywhere, much more "velshi, representative emanuel cleaver, i'll ask him how many changes to the build back better act house democrats can tolerate after the senate puts its hands on that bill. another hour of "velshi" begins right now. ♪♪ ♪♪ good morning. it's 9:00 a.m. in the east, 6:00 a.m. out west. i'm ali velshi. govern ams

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"velshi" starts now. good morning. it is saturday, november 27th. i'm ali velshi. new covid variant is causing global alarm as countries enact travel restrictions in the attempt to contain the latest coronavirus threat. the w.h.o. classified the omicron as a highly transmissible virus of concern. that includes the delta that it includes to drive up the hospitalizations and deaths in europe and u.s. many mutations found within the omicron variant are linked to increased antibody resistance which affects how the virus behaves. scientists in south africa first discovered it was driving a spike in cases there on thursday. so far, omicron has been detected in belgium, botswana, hong kong and israel. the u.s. is moving to restrict travel from south africa and several other countries in the region, including botswana, mozambique and zimbabwe and eswatini. those restrictions will go into effect on monday for non-u.s. citizens. dr. fauci joined peter alexander and kristen welker on "weekend today" to discuss the omicron variant. fauci says there are no cases identified in the u.s. right now, he would not be surprised if it is already here. >> we have not detected it yet. when you have a virus that is showing this degree of trans miss built and you are already having travel related cases noted in israel and belgium and other places. when you have a virus like this, it is ultimately going go all over. the issue of blocking travel from a given country is to just give us time to assess it better. that's the reason for doing that. not any reason to panic. >> meanwhile, president biden issued a statement urging americans to get vaccinated. america is leading the world in vaccinating children ages 5 to 11 and has been vaccinated teens for months now. we need more americans in all age groups to get the life-saving protection. if you have not gotten your vaccine or not taken your children to get vaccinated, now is the time. he sent a message to the global community. the united states has donated more vaccines to other countries than every other country combined. it is time for other counties to match america's speed and generosity. joining me is dr. bedehlia. she is a contributor to msnbc and a friend to the show on the topic for far too long. good to see you. dr. fauci talked about the degree of transmissability. are we talking about mortality or infectiinfectiousness? what does this mean with the degree of transmissability. >> the reason omicron is of other than there are over 50 mutations and 30 on the spike protein that the virus attaches to human cells. the nature from what we have seen can do a couple of things. one is increasing transmissability. if you have it, you are likely to pass it on to somebody else. there is concern the way the few mutations look, it is similar to others. there is a concern that none of the other mutations, beta and lambda have taken over is delta is king of the hill. if you all of a sudden are seeing variant that has mutations that may both cause greater transmissability, but also decrease efficacy of the current treatment, it might out-compete delta because cases are starting to go up in south africa. this is something we need to be concerned about. i will caveat this with all of the data is quite early. the next two weeks will help us figure out what is what and what turns out to be the truth with the epidemiology in south africa and lab work. >> it was detected first on thursday. the monitoring seems to be working well. you used two terms in the explanation. you talked about antibody resistance and decreased efficacy of the vaccine. are those two sides of the same coin? the antibodies are not holding off omicron the way they hold off delta? >> there is suspicion it is and there is a concern from the w.h.o. in the population they are seeing. this early. why does it matter? the way vaccines work is that it creates antbodies and has a longer term t-cell response to protect you. when antibodies go down, you may get greater chance of infection, but the t-cell may protect you from severe disease. in these cases, the variants decrease efficacy. the good news is no variant to date, ali, and this is the question of the current vaccine works. no data completely overwhelmed or evaded. they may provide protection which is why i think you are seeing president biden and dr. fauci encouraging everybody to get vaccinated and boosted. >> you give us a lot of information in little time. we are appreciative of it. it is not only important and necessary information, but it can be life-saving information. we are grateful to you and how ready you are to come and talk to viewers. an infectious disease physician. congress reconvenes next week and facing a number of key deadlines and democrats seek to pass the $1.7 trillion build back better plan through the senate where democrats hold a razor thin majority that relies on vice president harris' tie breaking vote to pass anything that doesn't have republican support. it is a consequence kweengs al week for justice. three white men who cased and killed ahmaud arbery were found guilty of murder charges. a virginia jury reached a partial verdict in the unite the right trial. nine individuals are entitled to more than $25 million in compensation for injury sustained during the 2017 charlottesville rally. they could not decide if the organizers engaged in a conspiracy to commit violence under federal law. joining me now is the democratic congress member troy carter of louisiana. a member of the house transportation and infrastructure committee. congress member, i love talking about infrastructure and i want to talk about that, but first let's talk about racial justice in america. we saw the verdict in georgia and on the heels of the verdict in minneapolis. it does seem to suggest that while we may not be at a point where justice is done for killing unarmed black people, but there may be some accountability that is to be had. >> certainly there was a recognition of the need to have justice. clearly, one verdict doesn't change the issue that our country faces. there is a tremendous problem in our criminal justice system. this was a victory, but it was outlandish and clear that the evidence was clear that it would have been difficult to come back with anything but a guilty verdict. however, we have seen this before. denotes we still have a long way to go. we should pause on this victory and recognize the so many others. rittenhouse and others that require the kind of careful attention and recognition that our criminal justice system is severely flawed. >> you said it was outlandish and clear, yet there was a chance it would not result in a conviction. part of the reason it is is because there is a video. in one group says one thing and another group says the other, the population tends to believe unarmed black people don't get killed for just doing nothing. >> that is a fact. the reality is if you reversed the roles that had been three african americans chasing a white gentleman, unarmed and no items suggested he stolen something, there would not have been media. there would have been conviction in the media and court and probably would not have had the level of deliberation. that is the real issue of why the racism and criminal justice reform needs to be fixed. there's no question. when i say outlandish, this was easy. yet, for many people, it wasn't. if it was reversed, it would have been a different day. >> let's talk about infrastructure. you are on the infrastructure committee. how will you and democrats effectively -- this infrastructure bill is massive. it is huge. it's a big deal. it should have been bipartisan from the beginning. it was marginally bipartisan which confuses me. i grew up thinking infrastructure was as republican a thing as democratic. you have to message how big a deal it is and how it improves people's lives. how will you do that? >> we are talking about $1.2 trillion. "t." not "b." for louisiana, $7 billion to come to my state to address clean water and removing lead pipes. like looking at the 25% of critical infrastructure facilities that are in imminent danger if we don't do something about it. these are life changing once in a lifetime opportunities. this is the largest infrastructure impact for the country since the creation of the interstate system under president eisenhower. that is a really, really big deal. when you talk about those saying there is not enough in it or it should have been more. at the end of the day, we all love to have it bigger and more robust and deal with greater issues. we are talking about trillions of dollars and talking about trillions of dollars that not only impact democrats, but impact republicans, democrats, people all over the country. people who voted for me and didn't. people who voted for president biden and didn't. of all things, infrastructure should never been considered partisan. i'm proud of the work that those republicans that did, although all too few, come along with us. cassidy in the senate from my home state who did an incredible job to fashion the final passage of the bill we should all be proud of and will yield great benefits for many years to come. >> congress member, good to see you. we appreciate the time you have taken. democratic representative troy carter of louisiana. still ahead on "velshi" we continue to talk about the build back better bill with representative emanuel cleaver. he joins us at the top of the hour. november is native american heritage month. i headed to window rock. the capital of navajo nation. the issues facing native people. and america is losing out on the best and brightest immigrants the world has to offer and it is costing our nation a great deal. is costing nation a great deal. -had enough? -no... arthritis. here. new aspercreme arthritis. full prescription-strength? reduces inflammation? thank the gods. don't thank them too soon. kick pain in the aspercreme. >> man: what's my safelite story? my truck...is my livelihood. so when my windshield cracked... the experts at safelite autoglass came right to me... with service i could trust. right, girl? >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ ♪ limu emu... & doug ♪ ♪ superpowers from a spider bite? i could use some help showing the world how liberty mutual customizes their car insurance so they only pay for what they need. 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in other words, we are getting more race blind? we're able to see whether or not the case was motivated by race and able to look at justice as justice? >> no, i don't think we made great strides. this is one important step just like the verdict in the derek chauvin trial was one important step to leveling the playing field. opening people's eyes to the injustice that a lot of african american men face on a daily basis. there are thousands of people in jail and killed, african americans. we can't turn back the clock. this is an important step. we have to keep on pushing in the court and through federal legislation and with activism. i think we see a convergence in the derek chauvin trial as in the mcmichael-bryan trial. we see the factors. and the evidence that points to heinuos crimes committed. >> the three men convicted in arbery's murder. they tried to argue they were performing a citizens arrest. following the death, georgia repealed that law. many states across the country have similar legislation. not just citizens arrest, but things that give people impunity if they kill people in a manner that most of us would think extra judicial. do you think those laws can change? if so, who is behind changing them? >> i think those laws can change and those laws must change. the people behind changing them would be the citizens in each state. in state of georgia, for example, the legislature changed the law because of the pressure. the murder of ahmaud arbery, even before the trial, the whole video that the state and country and world saw, was so disturbing and aggravating and so much of a disturbance, in georgia, the legislature repealed the law. it was an 1863 law after all. what happens in georgia happens in the south and northern states and the midwest and west coast. there needs to be a concerted effort. the people in the states are the ones who are responsible for the repeal. >> an 1863 law passed in response to the emancipation proclamation because slaves were trying to get away from their masters. this is a slavery-era law. ck is the former president of the national bar association and veteran trial attorney. we hope you had a great thanksgiving. it is time to burn off the calories and put on the farming hat. the ideas for farming sustain bring in the future. you can listen to the show on the go anytime. listen for free anywhere you get your podcasts. free anywhereou t your podcasts. ♪♪♪ ♪♪it's a most unusual day♪♪ ♪♪feel like throwing my worries away♪♪ ♪♪as an old native-born californian would say♪♪ ♪♪it's a most unusual day♪♪ ♪♪it's a most unusual sky♪♪ ♪♪not a sign of a cloud passing by♪♪ ♪♪if my heart won't behave in the usual way♪♪ experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list event. ♪ when you have nausea, ♪ ♪ heartburn, ingestion, upset stomach... ♪sanctuary ♪ diarrheaaaa.♪ try pepto bismol with a powerful coating action. for fast and soothing relief. pepto bismol for fast relief when you need it most. people with moderate to severe psoriasis, or psoriatic arthritis, are rethinking the choices they make like the splash they create the way they exaggerate the surprises they initiate. otezla. it's a choice you can make. otezla is not an injection or a cream it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. for psoriatic arthritis, otezla is proven to reduce joint swelling, tenderness, and pain. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. like pulsing, electric shocks, sharp, stabbing pains, or an intense burning sensation. what is this nightmare? 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"finding nemo" is in the navajo language. we premiered our third which is "fistful of dollars." we did it because the other two, you know, i would get older folks asking you should do a western. our older generation are holding on to our language. the big number one reason why we push for that is because language is at the core of any culture. our language is -- it's at a tipping point for navajo people. if we don't do anything about it, we will lose it forever. >> can i get a share of hands of who speaks the navajo language? okay. >> the colleagues and panelists here have spoken about the need to preserve language. it all hinges on the difference in that we speak the language. we have a connection to our land and when we speak these words into the universe in prayer, it is how we find our grounding with who we are. >> and my viewer who may not know you refer to the people and culture and language? >> yes, ali. >> i'll talk about politics. the infrastructure bill finally got done. it is uniquely not abstract to you in navajo nation particularly in relation to water. >> for many decades, the issue about water is really been overlooked by the united states. for tribes, not just navajo. for navajo, we had a rolling log of constant need for water development on the navajo nation. today, i just ended health service. they have a listing of almost 10,000 homes that don't have water today. >> this is in navajo nation? >> in the navajo nation, there are almost 10,000 homes that lack water. if there is approximately four family members per home, that is easily 40,000 people. money is one factor in all of this. right now, i -- i -- i see the money that could come. $3.5 billion for water projects. to get water to homes. i know too many of the details about the process to get water to homes. it will be a real struggle. yes, the money is coming, but there's still a long way to see a lot of families get water. >> with native americans in congress, you know, i think we have kind of been gathering more support and dr. jill biden was here a few months ago. we have some allies, i think, in the higher level that sees what he is seeing as far as need for our navajo people. basic needs. on top of water, of course, we need infrastructure. there's still a lot of dirt roads that we have to travel on and our police vehicles are getting torn up. internet. you know, internet. everybody else has internet, but a lot of the navajo people don't have internet. cell service. being optimistic, i think, eventually our leaders see it and they will forecast and say let's help our native people a little bit more and little bit better. they are vested in us. we have treaies with them. it is their agreement with us that they take care of our native people. >> you know, really, when you look at the history in the federal government and then our stance working with them with the government-to-government relationship, often times we don't have a seat at the table. it is other individuals making decisions for us and about us and not having the firsthand knowledge from individuals like myself and the president who knows what is going on here actually on the nation and on the reservation impacting our communities. when i think about representation, i think how the new administration has come in really and wants to gauge what it feels like to be part of the navajo nation or part of other indigenous communities out there. having the seat at the table and making sure that we are heard from our perspective because your perspective and my perspective, i live here and i'm navajo 24/7. this is all i know. you have come to visit or other people are trying to understand the perspective to live on navajo. you heard a little bit about the water issue and the public safety and safety and the health. how it's vastly different compared to western society and the western world out there. so having that ability to know the difference between the two worlds, society that we have to live by is very imperative that we continue to voice our opinions and make sure that we continue to get strong men and women of native heritage in these high positions within d.c. or the states, legislatures or even here within our tribal government, as well. >> it's really one of the best conversations i've had in the last year in "velshi" across america. coming up in the next hour you'll hear part two of the conversation in which we discuss the complexity, and what navajo people want non-native americans to take away from native-american heritage month. all right. it's been seven years since russia invaded ukraine and illegally annexed crimea. according to ukraine, russia is up to something again. if you're washing with the bargain brand, even when your clothes look clean, there's extra dirt you can't see. watch this. that was in these clothes...ugh. but the clothes washed in tide- so much cleaner! if it's got to be clean, it's got to be tide hygienic clean no surprises in these clothes! couple more surprises. 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because as we've mentioned ukraine is not part, it's not a member of the european union. there is a general understanding among nato countries that an invasion or an attack on one is an attack on the other and that doesn't fit when it comes to ukraine either. there have been a lot of noises on ukraine to become more western facing and integrated with the west. it is integrated to some degree with russia. what's the right thing to do if russia may or may not overtly or covertly try to interfere with ukrainian issues again? >> at this point we are in the message-sending part of this face-off. so russia is sending a message by amassing troops on the border. the biden administration is trying to send the message that letting it be known that it is thinking of sending military advisers and it is a very loose definition and thinking of sending military advisers to ukraine to help protect ukrainian territory, their stock up more with nato, nuclear bombers over that territory, and so both sides are, if you like, this is shadow boxing that's going on. the u.s. yesterday the secretary of state for the assistant secretary of state for the european affairs used the language all options are on the table. that is in diplomatic terms very strong and that would have been noticed. the trick for the biden administration, though is to get the europeans behind it. it's not enough. it's not going to be enough if putin only hears from joe biden. he is fully aware that the united states, the american people are not in the mood for a war and he can, putin can keep pressing harder and harder against ukraine without getting a military response from the u.s., but he has to hear from the europeans and the europeans are really divided over this. the french want to take a tough line with putin and the most crucial voice in europe has to come from germany and germany has always been well for the last ten or 12 years has been very dovish on russia in general and think, in germany you have the additional competition right now. if you have a change of leadership, angela merkel, the rock of germany so many years is on her way out. >> right. he's not been tested in this position yet. bobby, always good to see you. editor and columnist with bloomberg opinion. don't go anywhere, much more "velshi, representative emanuel cleaver, i'll ask him how many changes to the build back better act house democrats can tolerate after the senate puts its hands on that bill. another hour of "velshi" begins right now. ♪♪ ♪♪ good morning. it's 9:00 a.m. in the east, 6:00 a.m. out west. i'm ali velshi. govern ams

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