21st. i'm ali velshi. the bipartisan infrastructure bill has been signed into law by president biden and congressional democrats are optimistic about passing the build back better spending package before the end of the year. after passing the house entirely along party lines on friday, the transformative legislation is now headed to the senate for review this week, but it still has a difficult road ahead. its passage in the senate is not guaranteed. it will need all 50 democratic votes, and if it does pass, it might come out looking very different, based on the mercurial moods of joe manchin and kyrsten sinema, but at least it's moving. however, another crucial piece of the biden agenda, the agenda of anyone who cherishes democracy, by the way, has largely stalled, and i think it's voting rights. "the washington post" reports that kyrsten sinema, quote, remains firmly opposed to changing federal election laws on a partisan basis, signaling that a planned last-ditch voting rights push that party leaders and activists are planning for in the closely-divided senate in the coming months, is largely expected to fail. and that may dash any hopes of getting federal voter protections on the books, at a time when that constitutional right is more endangered than ever. across the country, we're seeing overt and covert efforts to roll back access to the ballot box and to undermine elections. and now those anti-democratic efforts have a new focus. state election officials. here's the short version of what's going on. loyalists of the failed former president who have embraced his lies about the 2020 election being stolen appear to have been trying to gain access to voter systems from the inside. they're doing that in order to conduct rogue, highly partisan so-called audits to search for and prove non-existent voter fraud. and in the process, they risk actually come pricing the very voting systems that they are falsely saying are compromised. the whole operation is seating yet more unfounded doubt about our elections. "the washington post" reports, quote, federal and state investigators are examining an attempt to reach an ohio county's election network that bears striking similarities to an incident in colorado earlier this year, when government officials helped an outsider gain access to the county voting system in an effort to find voter fraud. now, the information from both of these instances was distributed at a cyber forum that was held by this guy, the foam pillow salesman, the trump loyalist, mike lindell, who has spent millions of dollars trying to promote false claims about the 2020 election. the election claims are false, but they are ceding doubt in our political system. they are the trojan horse is basically inside the walled gates of our election system right now. and it's going to pose a yet bigger problem in elections to come. joining me now is the secretary of state of colorado, jenna griswald, who has faced this a few months ago, took it to court and is trying to solve this. secretary griswald, thank you for being with us so early from colorado. this is a major problem, so we've seen legislative attempts, we've seen mike lindell and the pillow guy, but now we're seeing these attempts at compromising the elections from inside county election offices like you have in colorado. >> that's right, ali. thank you for having me on. this is a tremendous concern for the nation. i think many states need to prepare themselves. so what happened in colorado is an elected clerk, elected to uphold democracy and execute elections, ended up turning off cameras to voting equipment, allowing an unauthorized person access, and then passwords and server images to voting equipment was leaked online. so i took quick action, we decertified the voting equipment. i asked a judge to bar that clerk. and we just had great elections. but this is coming, as you mentioned, with this newest insider threat being reported out of ohio. >> you -- the republican clerk in mesa county, tina peters, falsely accused you of organizing a raid on her office, and ended up actually threatening you about it, or sending you a threatening message on facebook. >> that's right. there's a lot of misinformation out there, and forces, extremists who want to undermine elections are using disinformation to set the table. you know, the same lies, the same conspiracies that have been fueling this voter suppression across the nation are now leading to these insider threats, and i think it's noteworthy to say that mike lindell appears to be connected to both the insider threats in colorado and ohio and along the same lines, we're seeing extremists like steve bannon encouraging election deniers to take over local election positions. we're seeing in every swing state where there's a secretary of state race, someone who is spreading the big lie, running to oversee elections. so we need to stop the misinformation and really take notice of what's happening. and that's an attempted takeover of elections across the nation. >> so we are seeing in various states, including in michigan, where there is a democratic secretary of state, in arizona, secretaries of state taking these matters into their own hands and trying to solve them, identifying them and solve them, as you've tried to do. again, i worry, i'm pleased that there are people like you doing it, but democracy needs to not just depend on the fact that you are doing the right thing. what infrastructural support do you need and do other states need to ensure that this doesn't happen. is this federal legislation that gets involved and you say you can't just go rogue in your county and decide to filled with the machines? >> that would be a big help. i think states need to look at their election infrastructure right now and recognize that more insider threats are likely come. at this point, over 500 candidates are running at the state level on the republican ticket, who say 2020 was stolen. but to your point, this is part of a coordinated effort to undermine democracy and strip americans of their freedom to vote. and we desperately need to u.s. senate to pass protections to make sure that americans have access to the ballot box, that we're pushing back on those who are trying to destroy democracy from within, and that we are cementing the confidence in elections to make sure that we have democracy for decades to come. and hopefully centuries to come. >> i want to be clear about a point i made. tina peters herself didn't send you a threatening message, someone else did relating to that matter of the raid on the office. your point about democracy is the most important point. is this partisan or are these people who are doing this in ohio and colorado, are they falling for this big lie? are they conspiracy theory believers? because i do know that in your state and in other states where this is happening, there are republicans who have stood up to these conspiracy theorists and these big lie perpetrators and said, that's not democracy. if you don't like the democrats won an election, that's cool. democracy allows you to not like that. but this is a step too far. people who are actually in charge of running our elections, which are generally safe and free of fraud, are now the perpetrators of fraud themselves. >> well, i think it's both. we are seeing republicans stand up and do the right thing. i actually asked a judge to appoint my predecessor, a republican secretary of state, to oversee mesa's election, just a couple of weeks ago. to be but to be extremely clear, the lies are being fueled by extreme republican elected officials, along the lines of ted cruz, president trump. this is coming from the very top of the republican party and they are creating basically a litmus test. either you're with the former president in stating that the election was stolen from him or you will be primaried. money will be spent against you. they're going to try to make you lose. so we are seeing a lack of courage from many republican officials and candidates who are perpetrating these lies, spreading the big lie. and there's real ramifications. the insurrection. 500 bills to take away americans' freedoms. countless death threats against election officials. so we need to push on every elected official to uphold democracy, believe in democracy, and for those who don't, well, i sure hope they are held accountable at the blot box, because in 2022, democracy is on the ballot. >> that is entirely right. and i thank you again. it's very early for you out there, but the fight for democracy does not sleep. jenna griswald, secretary of state of colorado. joining me now is democratic congressman jamal bowman, he represents new york's 16th congressional district. he's a member of the house committee on education and labor. congressman, it's always a pleasure to see you so early in the morning. liz, you got a calm extra hours of sleep, because we're in the same time zone. but i want to start with what secretary griswald was just say. we have fires on every front when it comes to securing democracy, on the right to vote, on the spreading of the big lie, on the january 6th stuff. and now as secretary griswald was talking about, we know that in september, there were incidents in colorado, now in ohio, we're hearing about them in michigan, where there are election officials who are perpetrating nonsense, who are fiddling with machines, who are inserting hard drives and taking out information, both to prove nonexistent fraud and to continue to undermine our faith in our elections. and secretary griswald said she would love federal legislation to help out in the fight that she's having. >> absolutely. and the house has already passed hr-1 and hr-4, which is the john lewis voting rights act. and it's been sitting in the senate for several months. so my hope is we pass build back better as quickly as possible in the senate and pivot directly to voting rights. i mean, this is -- our democracy is hanging by a thread. if january 6th wasn't a clear example of that, i don't know what is. it's being undermined from multiple angles. you mentioned how the republican party is now trump party pushing the big lie. they are mobilizing and organizing across the country to push that lie and suppress the vote in states the country. we need everyone who cares about our democracy and our economy and the future of our country needs to be engaged and involved in what's happening, not just with voting rights, but with all aspects of our nation, because right now, we see lies pushed in education, with critical race theory, we see lies pushed in many other areas. and we have to push back. so, it's legislation, it's also protecting the ballot box in terms of security, from a security standpoint. and it's also just getting engaged and involved in democracy, because we need everyone to be in the game. >> you talk about -- you're right. we're in the era of lies right now, including about education. but that education lie, critical race theory, yesterday on the show, we were talking to nicole hanna jones about the 1619 project, that has been changed and morphed by republicans into something that it's not. so 1619 project just says, hey, let's actually learn about the history that actually existed, that we don't learn in schools. critical race theory is meant for law students and university students. but it is being used effectively as a cudgel. what do democrats do to fight back. saying, i don't want this nonsense being taught in school. how do you fight that back with your constituents? 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>> progressives and moderates need to stop fighting and work together. and progressives are trying to work with moderates and even our more conservative colleagues. we want to work together, we need to work together for the sake of our country and the future of our democracy. enough of the blame game, enough of the infighting, enough of the working in silos. let's come together collaboratively to support whoever runs for president, because guess what? if we lose control of the house and the senate and the white house, god only knows what's going to happen, because as you know, many of my republican colleagues are not only just pushing the big lie, they're pushing violence in certain parts of our country. we cannot normalize violence, we cannot normalize lies, and we have to regain public confidence and public trust, and it's up to us as democrats to regain that public confidence and trust. >> democratic representative jamal bowman of new york, good to see you. thank you. well, a country united at least about the supreme court. the majority of americans believe the high court is too politically motivated. . uh, yeah. but first, a reality check on inflation, supply chain and wage growth with white house economic adviser heather boushey and carlos gutierrez. and. and right after the break, we'll hold big oil accountable. e a mountain of toys to fulfill many wishes must be carried across all roads and all bridges. it's not magic that makes more holiday deliveries to homes in the us than anyone else, it's the hardworking people of the united states postal service. 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what happens if this conservative court doesn't heed your warnings, doesn't heed public opinion, and does away with roe v. wade? what happens? >> well, you know, the court, from the framing, this is in the federalist papers, has no power. it has no army. it has no budget. it has neither sword no purse. so if its public legitimacy disintegrated, it doesn't have a backup plan. it doesn't have a way to enforce its will on the country. so what happens then is if the court does what we think it's going to do, both dismantling roe v. wade and really increasing gun rights, the american public is going to have a catastrophic lack of faith in the court and we're back into the era of, you know, this has happened before, the court has no power. and that is terrifying. >> dahlia, always a pleasure to get your analysis on these important matters. i appreciate your time this morning. dahlia lithwick is a senior editor and legal correspondent for slate. coming up, the fallout from a gun scare inside one of the world's busiest airports. one o world's busiest airports knows everyone's unique. that's why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. 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>> reporter: hey, ali. good morning to you. it is one of the busiest travel weeks of the year, and at one of the busiest airports in the world. an accidental discharge of a firearm sent passengers scrambling. fortunately, things are back to normal this morning, but they are still looking for the man who set off that gun. thanksgiving travel off to a chaotic start at atlanta's hartsfield-jackson international airport. >> you guys, i'm in the airport. and i don't know what's happening. everybody's running. >> reporter: security was inspecting a passenger's bag containing a loaded firearm. the passenger lunged for the weapon, accidentally discharging it before fleeing the airport. sending hundreds running, scrambling, and ducking down for cover. >> get down! >> reporter: panic outside, too. with crowds waiting for updates. the faa issued a ground stop. dozens of flights were delayed. atlanta's airport routinely leads the nation in gun confiscations. a record 450 firearms this year alone. all of this playing out with millions on the move ahead of a busy holiday travel week. >> it's going to feel like that old thanksgiving, where you either sat in traffic or were in line at the airport. >> the tsa screening more than 2.2 million people friday. the biggest volume of passengers since the start of the pandemic. airports in california and florida look more like 2019, with long lines and wait times. this year, aaa estimates roughly 53 million thanksgiving travelers, at least 4 million plan to fly. >> try to get out early, avoid the rush. >> tsa officials say they're prepared to handle the surge, even with monday's looming deadline requiring vaccines for employees. government sources tell nbc news they estimate the vaccination rate amongst screening officers to be around 90%. >> yeah, to the point, we are going to be staffed enough to handle the surge, and i expect to have no impact whatsoever with respect to the vaccine on throughput on times going through the tsa screening checkpoints. >> reporter: atlanta's airport was back to normal operations by saturday afternoon. and people who were at the airport at the time of the incident had to be rescreened. we've also learned that three people sustained nonlife-threatening injuries. ali? 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your position but back then, companies like kellogg dealt with supply chain differently. we were just in time as we were. it was a lot more long-term planning what supplies they needed and things like that. what changed? why do we have the supply chain problem today? >> well, you know, back then we were trying to be just in time at the beginning of the effort but even supply chains were beginning to diverdiversify. a simple product on the shelf could be made with material and ingredients from five or six different companies. it's a fragile supply chain. when covid hit, that supply chain just if you have one chain out of whack then that impacts the whole supply chain so supply chains were impacted but consumers weren't spending as much because they were quarantined and staying indoors. we remember back then we had some shortages of the toilet paper and some items. what's happening today, the u.s. has been one of the first economies to open. so consumers have built up a pretty high savings rate, higher than normal and there is penalty -- pent up demand. they want to spend what they saved but the supply chains are barely getting ready. the increase in demand, that's what we weren't ready for. the goods are arriving but they're stuck in long beach because we don't have enough truck drivers to bring them in so it's been this combination of effects that have just really become a perfect storm at the same time, we're seeing people rethinking their lives during covid. some people quit their jobs and want to start something new, start their own business. above 55 years of age we're seeing more retirements than normal. that could be a factor of the stock market doing well and thinking maybe i can retire now. all these things have come together and that's impacted inflation and inflation is something that once it gets started, you can't turn it off like a light switch. >> as you said, these will problems that will work themselves out in someway. we'll eventually get the stuff we need. it's a slower process with wage. we're getting people into the work force with getting truckers. we had a trucker shortage for a long time in america. it's a growing industry and fewer people do it. is this inflation a temporary matter? will some of it last for longer and frankly, as a former government official what can the government do about supply and wage related causes of inflation. >> you know, that's the big question. i worry a little bit when i hear some economists say it's going to be temporary and that to me sounds like it will be like winter. it comes and it goes. one day it isn't here anymore. inflation tends to feed on itself. so people learn that they might as well buy something now because the prices are going to go up. that causes shortages and that causes price increases. so inflation just doesn't go away. and i believe it's going to be here for awhile and just one way to think about it if inflation is 6%, that doesn't mean that prices are going to go down 6%. we're going to start at a whole new level which is 6% higher. so yes, it may be temporary, it may be transition but how long is the transition and how long will we see a tail of inflation? i think longer than some people expect. some people think it will go away. it's not. it's going to be dribbling for awhile. >> let me ask you about the one part not as easy to remedy and that's oil prices. oil prices are up 59% in the last year. now, obviously, they plummeted last year because people were not driving or traveling on planes but they are up. house delivered natural gas is up 28%, gasoline up 50%. that's real. that's a tax on people. they're paying more money for something, a product they're not getting more of. >> yeah, this is also a factor of supply and demand. yo u recall when oil demand was at an all time low. one day the prices were negative so people weren't driving, not taking planes. they're still not taking planes. so oil producers dramatically reduced their production. because you can't continue to produce when you're selling at low prices or not selling enough. inventory is very low and the big question is does oil production ramp up even though people know, manufacturers know, producers know prices will eventually settle down and no one wants to get caught with an excess of inventory so it's a vicious cycle. there isn't as much oil production as there usually is. >> secretary, good to talk to you. we'll schedule that for another day. former u.s. secretary -- >> look forward to that. >> under george w. bush, chairman and ceo of the kellogg company. carlos gutierrez. heather boushey joins us next and massachusetts congresswoman ayanna pressley joins us. another hour of "velshi" begins right now. good morning, it is 9:00 a.m. in the east. i'm ali velshi. on monday biden signed into law a trillion dollars infrastructure bill and on friday his second signature spending package, the build back better cleared a major hurdle by passing the house and saturday, yesterday he turned 79 and according to brand-new reporting by "the washington post" began reassuring political allies he will be running for reelection in 2024. we'll have much more on that later on this hour. but democrats emerged from the house floor calling the president's agenda historic and transformative and joe mansion remains a wild card there is a sense of unity within the